1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey guys, and welcome to the 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Almost In this podcast, we've got two episodes this week 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: because we've got two episodes of The Bachelor. Today, Ben 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: and I will be recapping the women Tell All episode, 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: which was relatively outrageous. Ben, before we get to that, 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: how have you been the past week or so? I've 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: been great. Uh, you know, actually I wanted to start 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: this podcast out because of just some messages that I've received, 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure people are wondering obviously, Uh, the last 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: week has been difficult. Uh, you know, it's it's odd. 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if our parents and our grandparents, we 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: would have to get somebody that's that's been around a 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: little bit longer than us. But it feels like in 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we just continue to get 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: our world's rocked by news and updates and things happening. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: And I just got back from a Lune um with 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: an organization. I joined the board of Project Hope and 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: they have a few people over in Poland and Ukraine 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: right now helping set up refugee camps and humanitarian um 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: health care efforts and uh, it's a weird thing to 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: sit in that meeting, come back here and talk about 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: the wom until especially with how outrageous the wom until 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: all was, and it just makes me say, you know, 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: let's start. It made me want to start this episode 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: by saying, if you are somebody out there that want 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: to support UM an organization that is boots on the 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: ground giving great updates. Uh, they've been all over MSNBC 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: and CNN and Fox, every big outlet project hopes out there. 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: UM it's uh, you know, from today's meeting, I I asked, 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: I said, you know, where does this go? You know, 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: they've been a part of disasters and refugee crisis is 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: all over the world. They said, they've never seen anything 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: quite like it, and it's only going to get worse 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: where people are going to continue to pour into these 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: surrounding countries and the infrastructure or just isn't They're like, 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, you're these are small countries. These are like, uh, 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: these are almost the size of the states in the US, 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: and millions of people are pouring into him now needing 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: just the essentials in life. And so it's important for 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: us here at the podcast, I think to advocate on 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: those refugees, behalf and to say, hey, if you want 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to help, Um, obviously, donations and funding is the most 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: important thing. Uh, it's needed, it's necessary and uh and 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: it's also I know for a lot of people, uh, 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: the war going on over there right now, it's just 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: really hard to conceptualize and understand. Uh. And that's not 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: your fault. I think most people in the world are 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: trying to understand why this is happening and where it's 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: coming from. So um, yeah, on behalf of the the almost 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: this podcast, we recognize how difficult this is and know 52 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: that you know, ultimately the Bachelor traditionally has been an 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: escape from the things going on in the world. But 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: sometimes and it feels like more than ever here recently 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, Um, the escape just 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: isn't exactly um healthy, and we have to still lean 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: in and recognize the stuff going on. So yeah, it 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: feels like everything that I complain about my life is 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: just so silly these days. I just feel dumb for it. 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: And the yeah, talking about the Bachelor sometimes can feel 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: silly too, So yeah, it does, but it is our 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: job and that is why we're here. But it doesn't 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: mean we have to neglect that things going on outside world. 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: So again, if you want to help, Project Hope is 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: out there. Almost Famous podcast is backing and supporting and 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: trying to keep up with everything going on around the world. 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: And we know that for many people there's a lot 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: of pain um but we will take this time to 69 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: recognize that and then move in to what is As 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: Ashley said, a week will we will do doing two 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: episodes of the Almost Famous podcast because there's two episodes 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. Ashley, I don't want to be a 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Debbie downer, but every every year, this is not just 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: this episode. Every year. I just don't enjoy the live shows. 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: Get rid of them. I don't enjoy them. I don't Oh, 76 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't you know, Ben, I thought you were going 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: to say, let's be gentle, like we've been hating, but 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: but you're not going there. I don't think we've been 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: hating now recently, Like I will say, the last few weeks, 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: well last week I really enjoyed well and I'm into 81 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: this this season like I'm I'm watching Clayton's story unfold. 82 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm watching the women that he has around and that 83 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: he's let go some of them. I'm still invested in 84 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: their stories, uh, you know, and what we'll see them 85 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: on Paradise or not. I think this season overall has 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: had some really slow moments and some really like it 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: definitely started out incredibly painfully slow, but it's like the 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: first episode. I don't know, we've been a little bit 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: like back and forth because there's been some episodes that 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: we've been like really like this one, really hated this one. 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: You know, at least it's at least we have the ups, right, 92 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: But I think after watching this this live show, I mean, 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: we have to get rid of them. They're just they're unnecessary. 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: They give us like the double week, you know, where 95 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: it's not like we're missing out, don't know, a week here, 96 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: we're getting an extra episode. So let's just forego that 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: extra episode because it's not enjoyable the whole. It took 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: me so long to get through this, Ben, I mean yes, 99 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: partially because I have a kid now, and partially because 100 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: we're moving. We're moving into this house, so it's like 101 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: everything like I pressed stop, I prest stopped it, I 102 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: first stopped. It took me four hours to get through 103 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: this hour and a half episode. Yeah, partially because like 104 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm distracted, and I have other things that take precedent, 105 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: but but mostly well not mostly, but secondarily because it's 106 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: just like I'm not like into this episode. I just 107 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: haven't been for a while. It's it's just screaming at 108 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: each other. It's just noise to me. And now when 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: you're bullying the bully, it's it's unhealthy ash And you 110 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: think it's unhealthy, well idea, I mean I don't think 111 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: it's why because like they're encouraged basically to just be 112 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: loud and go sit in go sit in front of 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of people. It's your last shining moment on 114 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: national television. Make a name for yourself. And historically how 115 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: people make names for themselves is by going out the villain, 116 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: going out the easy target. And I get this, Sometimes 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: that feels appropriate and it feels like that person has 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: warranted everything you're saying to them. But in any other 119 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: situation in life, actually we don't have this thing happen 120 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: where we sit in a room and we just bash somebody, 121 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: even if they've hurt us. There's healthier ways to heal 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: on the move on. Now, I will say this, I 123 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to over like state I still like after 124 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: the final rose, I actually enjoy seeing the people together. Yeah, 125 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: I think what you mean by that. It's just the 126 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: tell all. The tell all just never does it for me. 127 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: It never seems good for me. It never gets anyone anywhere. 128 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: All it is is regurgitates drama and then the draba 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: doesn't get solved. And I mean, at the same time, 130 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: if we're invested into this story, worry there's almost this mark. 131 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: And as we watched the journey unfold, we're watching you know, 132 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: women mature, We're watching uh, whoever the Bachelor Bachelorette is, 133 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: We're watching their journey unfold. Now. It just said it 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: feels like we rehashed stuff from months ago. Um and 135 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: and it just I don't know. For me, I watched 136 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: this episode, was like, it feels unhealthy for me to 137 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: watch this because here's what I do. Tell me if 138 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: you do or not from crazy, Like we all know 139 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: like Shane did not like make a great impression in 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: this house. We know that she did things that we 141 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: watch and we're like, that's manipulative. We know that she acted, uh, 142 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: we know that she Fate cried, we know that she 143 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: led people on, like we know all of this now okay, 144 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: And so I watched this and there's this side of 145 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: me that's like, yeah, get her, get her, go at 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: or go at her, and then I pull back. I'm like, wait, 147 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: that's not the human I want to be. But this 148 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: episode makes me say that and think that, And if 149 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: I didn't feel that way, then I'm doing what you 150 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: and I probably did. After we kind of like got 151 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: out of our hole, like yeah, get the villain mentality, 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: then we just disconnect from the episode because none of 153 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: it seems fun to watch. We're just like, yeah, that's 154 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: just stupid. I'll take it a step further. By the 155 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: way that the girls acted towards Chaney, it makes me 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: a little more sympathetic. It makes me actually like oddly 157 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: sympathetic for her, or like has me like liking her 158 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: more because they're so they're just so ridiculous. I don't know. 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: I just about these girls, like getting on her the 160 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: way that they did was like, Okay, did she really 161 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: affect your life that much? Did you really like do 162 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: you really think about her every night before you go 163 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: to bed? Yeah? Well, wo mean, we've we've talked about 164 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: on the podcast before, right, there's been now women from 165 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: this season who have partied with signs that say en 166 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: like um and and I don't know at all, Like 167 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: I I don't know her personally. I don't know if 168 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: she's enjoying this attention. I don't know she hates it. 169 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's also maybe like mentally, really 170 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: disrupting how she sees herself. And yes, I will say 171 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: of the best parts about the show is you you 172 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: see yourself um on camera and maybe just maybe you better. 173 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: You've become a better person because of the mistakes that 174 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: you made on television. That's a great thing to do. 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: But also there's this, there's this flip side where like 176 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: it does mean you had a great run on this show. 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: I had a run. I've always said the show has 178 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,239 Speaker 1: been really good for me. I've had very little controversy 179 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: and pain associate with the show outside of like normal 180 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: life circumstances. And it's still the criticism still hurts me, 181 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Like it still puts me in a bad space even 182 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: to this day. I cannot imagine, Ashley. I cannot imagine 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: if I had a whole show dedicated to just shitting 184 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: on me, like the whole time, Like that is so 185 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: terrible to think about how a human must feel and 186 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: it's so terrible to think that a human wants to 187 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: do that to another human. Yeah, I think that the show, 188 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: lettell All, has probably gone downhill since it's become a 189 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Paradise tryout, because don't you think that's what it is now? Well, 190 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: it's just like these girls fighting for like the statement 191 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: that gets a reaction so that they have camera times 192 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: that they have a better chance of going to paradise. 193 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Um, I've got i a cream in 194 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: my eye right now, so I'm not crying. I just 195 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: you can't open my eyes. I just leaning into the crying. 196 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: You feel so emotionally pulled towards this episode that you're crying. 197 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: I just can't open my eyes. Um No, And you know, 198 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: and maybe this is a good topic now to switch into. 199 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: Uh do you think Ashley that those big comments this 200 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: controversy being the loudest at the woman to all, do 201 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: you really think that? Do you think the producers are 202 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: looking at that being like this is a good moment 203 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: for them and now they're going to be on paradise 204 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: Because I feel like the producers are not swayed by 205 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: who the most outspoken is. And I also don't feel 206 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: like today, or at least in the last few seasons 207 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: since really Chad Johnson, that Paradise has involved all of 208 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: somebody only to build up controversy. Now they've had drama like, hey, 209 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: you slept with somebody outside the show, and you slept 210 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: with that person too, let's show up at the Paradise 211 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: and rehash it. But the villain, it's the villain themselves 212 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: typically come on Paradise to redeem themselves, not to continue 213 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: to be the villain. Right, yeah, right, I don't think 214 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: it's like so much of a villain thing as it is, 215 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: just like you getting your face on screen. So it's like, 216 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: I really do feel like the I mean from firsthand experience. 217 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I just remember back then. I mean, and that was 218 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: the only that was only the second season of Paradise. 219 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: But the producers definitely are putting in girls ears backstage. 220 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: You say this, you make a splash, there's a better 221 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: chance of you going to Paradise. So I do think 222 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: these girls are fighting for airtime because if they say 223 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: something splashy, they get on TV, they get on Paradise, 224 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: and then people you know, of course, when they hit Paradise, 225 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: they people forget what they ever said during women tell All, 226 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: Like I really think it's a matter of just minutes 227 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: on screen. Okay, well I also want to you know, 228 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: my only experience is from my time on the show. 229 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: I've been a part of two tell alls. One was 230 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: during Caitlin Bristow season. Okay, um, a little controversy amongst 231 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: the men, not a lot, like the house pretty much 232 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: got along. So who did they go after? Who was 233 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: the Who was their villain that they went after? Was 234 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: Caitlin because you know it was you know, the whole 235 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: slut shaming with Caitlin was the big conversation. So some 236 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: of the men were like, it was unfair. I remember 237 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: one of the guys, I forget his name at this point, 238 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, he was spouting off at Caitlin, how unfair 239 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: it was that she did this and she did that. 240 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I was like, you were there two days, like those 241 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: people all sit down. You don't know, Caitlin, she doesn't 242 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: even know your name right now. She had to get reminded, 243 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: probably before she even walked out, like, sit down and 244 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: stop talking. So then I had my Bachelor season. Who 245 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: was who the women go after? That season? It was Olivia? 246 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: How ridiculous? Do people look now that they went after 247 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: Olivia during the women tell all, Like, so my point 248 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: to this is, Okay, she might be a true like true, 249 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: she might have been awful to be within the house. 250 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. We saw what we saw. We've experienced 251 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: what we experienced. But what are you getting out of it? 252 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: That's that's the point. You don't get anything out of 253 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: ever hating on somebody, especially publicly. You're going to regret 254 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: it later. That person is probably gonna be hurt by you. 255 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: You're not bringing any life or joy or kindness to 256 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: the situation. And I bet sev of these people that 257 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: were spouting off at a probably have some little quote 258 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: on their Instagram it says like be kind for everybody 259 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: you know is going through. It's ridiculous. Actually, it makes 260 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: me so upset, makes me so upset. Let's go through 261 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: a couple of the lines that I really thought were 262 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: truly ridiculous. One Genevieve said, is she wearing a diaper 263 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: when she went up on stage and her panty line 264 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: was showing? Like really? And then there was the other 265 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: girl who said, like, honestly, like I, from the bottom 266 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: of my heart wants you to go to hell, or 267 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: like want you to stay in random mass Ohio or 268 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: something like that. It's like, okay, fine, So maybe she 269 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: didn't say from bomb my heart I want you to 270 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: go to hell. She said from the bottom of my heart, 271 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: I want to I don't know. Do we have the 272 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: actual quote? Come on, I'm part of the Midwest. Oh, 273 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: here it is here. It is from the bottom of 274 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: my heart. Okay, that's how bad it was. From the 275 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: bottom of my heart. Bless your heart, suck you, and 276 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: then it goes you can rot. You can rot in 277 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Ohio for all I care. That's what she said. I 278 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: don't even know. Without her name is lindsay, Like, are 279 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: you really have this strong of feelings of hatred for 280 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: this woman? It makes me judge you that you are 281 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: hating her so much. It's just it's kind of the 282 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: whole thing. It's it's an interesting study on human behavior too, 283 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: because maybe, you know, the better option here would have 284 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: been for one of these women who haven't been around 285 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: a long time, who don't really even the name of, 286 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: who are probably released within still when they were living 287 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: at the mansion, what if they just stood up and 288 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: was like, we're like kind like, what if they what 289 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: if they're like, hey, this doesn't feel healthy, Like what, Well, 290 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: there are some girls who definitely stayed quiet, and I 291 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: respect them for that, but is that okay? Like what 292 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: if what if somebody there would have been like, you 293 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: know what, this just feels like it's getting to be unhealthy, 294 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: Like what at this point are we proving? Are we? 295 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: And And hey, I get it when somebody when you 296 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: you're when you're yelling at somebody and the mob comes 297 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: out and that person screening back at you and they're 298 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: defending themselves, you know, still, like I get that, there's 299 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: like anger build up. I think it just goes back 300 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: all of it. This whole episode, at least that the 301 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: part about when all the women were sitting down, it 302 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: just felt unfun for me to watch. And maybe I'm 303 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: alone in that, Maybe you and I are on our 304 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: own little island and in that, but I have a 305 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: feeling that a lot of the people that are listening 306 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: to this podcast right now, I would say that that 307 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: didn't feel like a good couple hours of television to them. 308 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: They didn't feel like it was a positive or even 309 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: fun escape from the craziness of their worlds. I bet 310 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: it felt like it will it brought a heaviness even 311 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: to the evening that just felt like, Hey, I was 312 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: I had been fine just not watching it. I bet 313 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: you a lot of people turn it off. I'll be honest. 314 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: If we didn't do this episode, yeah, I would have 315 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: turned it off. That's a big statement. You would have 316 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: turned it off. You just said I don't need it. 317 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't need it because it doesn't perpetuate the storyline, 318 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: like I'm not missing anything from the next episode if 319 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't watch this episode. Well, and I'm going to 320 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: do a poll on my Instagram tonight during the airing 321 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: of this, like after the first hour. I want to 322 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: see if people actually want more tell alls okay, or 323 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: whether they turned it off. I'm actually gonna say, did 324 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: you turn it off? Can I steal that idea from you? 325 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Because I never know what to do on Instagram and 326 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: so be great if I could just steal that because 327 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: you're always good at it and I don't know that 328 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: giving you content. Hey, um, before we take a break here, 329 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: let's and this was something really positive? Can we Um, 330 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and we're gonna say happy 331 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: birthday to you, Ashley. This is your birthday week Um, 332 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: we love you, we celebrate you. We're so thankful for you. 333 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: And now your mom. I bet that feels weird celebrating 334 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: a birthday as a mother. Um, but just happy birthday, ash, oh, 335 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: thank you. You know what, it was different celebrating our 336 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: birthday as a mother. I had more gratitude for my mom, 337 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, birthdays are really more about the mom. 338 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: It's like on his birthday, I'm gonna be thinking about 339 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: like what I went through that day, Like how special 340 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: that day was. I think it's like birthdays are like 341 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: way bigger of a deal for the mom. That's all. 342 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Well, um, your mom is also awesome. We 343 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: love your mom, so you know she should she should 344 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: feel celebrated also. Well, hey, let's take a break. Um, 345 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: we're in a cut now. We're not gonna talk about 346 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: anymore this. We we've got it all out. We said 347 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: we don't like it, will pull you to see if 348 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: you like it. When we come back, we're gonna talk 349 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: about how Clayton UM's time goes as he confronts the 350 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: ladies on the wom until all. Alright, So yeah, let's 351 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: talk about Clayton and how the women responded to him 352 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: once he sat down. It was it was kind of 353 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: weird um standout moments. The physician from Philadelphia whose name 354 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: I don't know but I just know her title, she 355 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: said something along the lines of, like, you really messed 356 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: up like you you like got a lot of out here, 357 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Like we really piled it on you and you deserved 358 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: most of it. Did he really? I don't like he has. 359 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: He really made a lot of bad decisions thus far. 360 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: I know the women have a big issue with the 361 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: fact that Elizabeth was a limb. Did when she and 362 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: she Need stuck around? Like, I get it, he spent 363 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: he he has she need They're too long. But is 364 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: there anything else up until this point that he really 365 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: messed up on I don't think so, unless she's referring 366 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: to whatever happens in the next episodes, because we also 367 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: got that in this episode, which we've never gotten into 368 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: tell all before we had Teddy and who was the 369 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: other woman who said something about what actually ends up happening? 370 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Is it? Was it Sierra? Was it? Sierra? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. 371 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: So both of them say like, I I'm I have 372 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: privileged information, I know what goes on, and I just 373 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: want to say like, oh, I hope you're doing fine, 374 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: but like ouch, basically we never got It's like they 375 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: wanted us to get a teaser. That's never like a 376 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: good thing for anybody. I mean, you know, I've had 377 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: some pretty terrible breakups, not terrible, just like really heavy breakups, 378 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: heart breakups, if any I mean, I've probably said it 379 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: to them just because you're angry. But like if any 380 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: point you're like, hey, ouch, like I know, I know 381 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: you make a lot of mistakes. I hope you're doing good, 382 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: but you really suck. That is never that is not cool. Now, 383 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: I think I have a theory. Do I think Clayton 384 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: is uh a tremendous bachelor. I don't know if we 385 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: have the stuff to to judge that on. I mean, obviously, 386 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: you know bachelor's are judged by a few things. How 387 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: they how they yeah, longevity, how they cultivate and and 388 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: and work through drama and chaos, and if they can 389 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: kind of cool the situation down a little bit and 390 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: move on. I don't know if he did a great 391 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: job of that. I do feel like he kind of 392 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: walked away from a lot of the drama and kind 393 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: of let it happen for a long time, and I 394 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: think that was a mark. I have a feeling after 395 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: watching this the women were upset with him because they 396 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: feel like they never got to know him because I 397 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: think the one thing Clayton did, and I don't know 398 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: if this is good or bad, is he definitely showed 399 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: favoritism to the people that he was really into and 400 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: the people that he wasn't really into. I just don't 401 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: think he really gave him the time of day. And 402 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: as a result, that's so weird you said that, because 403 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: when I was talking to Jill from Rhode Island before 404 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: the season even aired, I was like, how was Clayton 405 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: like overall? She was like, well, it was so obvious 406 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: if he liked you, and if he didn't like you, 407 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: like you got no attention and you it was just 408 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: blatantly obvious. Yeah, So they don't like they didn't probably 409 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: feel like they had to or could protect him because 410 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: they're like, we I don't even know you, Like, you're 411 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: just a guy that is sitting in front of me 412 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: that I maybe had two conversations with, but you never 413 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: invested into me. You never sat with me. And I 414 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: can't say that's a bad move, right It's his journey, 415 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: and it's not mean of him to not like talk 416 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: to every all or thirty women that were there. But 417 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: I bet some of them are a little hurt by that, 418 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: like you didn't even give me a chance? Sure, I mean, 419 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: has he been a fantastic bachelor? No, but has been 420 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: Has he made a ton of mistakes? No? I mean 421 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: love to Peter Weber, friend of the show, love having 422 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: him on a guest as a guest on this show, 423 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: But he made a lot more mistakes at the Bachelor 424 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: than Clayton has thus far. And I mean Peter, Yeah, 425 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: and again we love Peter, but Peter kept making mistakes 426 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: even after his time as the Bachelor was done, Like 427 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: he was making mistakes on the live show like he 428 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: was so we can say it here. Yeah, I mean, 429 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: it just wasn't his deal. I don't think Clayton has 430 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: been a bad Bachelor. I think, um, you know obviously 431 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: that what we're gonna see tomorrow night, uh is going 432 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: to be interesting. I don't think it's a good look 433 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: for him. I don't probably think it goes well for him. 434 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: I do think it will probably be the defining moment 435 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: of his season, and so maybe we'll have a different 436 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: opinion after we see it and say, yeah, he hasn't 437 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: been like this was bad buddy, UM, just from all 438 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: the heasers and kind of how the women reacted and saying, oh, 439 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: I know what happens, and that was bad. His demeanor 440 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: sitting up there. Yeah, I think he's scared to death. Yeah, 441 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: I think it looked like to me, and I know 442 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: that feeling. Obviously we've seen that. You know he sleeps 443 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: with multiple women. Obviously I have. I told multiple women 444 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: UM that I love them. So I don't have a 445 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: lot of place to judge UM or criticize. In fact, 446 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: I have none, but I will say that I know 447 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: the feeling of sitting up in front of a live 448 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: audience being like, oh crap, this only gets worse, This 449 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: is only going to get worse for me. UM. But 450 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: he did look scared to me. I think he's really 451 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: also looks sad, and Teddy said something like I hope 452 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: you're doing okay. Yeah, And to me it almost seems 453 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: like a spoiler between the comment and his facial expression. 454 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: He just looks like he doesn't end up with anyone. 455 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: And I know that's what people have been saying since 456 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: the very beginning. I don't know spoilers. I don't want 457 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: to know spoilers, but it's almost like it's spoiling itself. Yeah, 458 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't have a spoiler this season. I 459 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: do feel like, you know, I think it's Ryan and 460 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Kelly always get the question, or Ellen always gets the 461 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: question are you happy? And he you know that happens 462 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: every year, and he I feel like he answered it 463 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: with yes, I'm happy. I would have a feeling if 464 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't end up with anybody, Um, he's probably not. 465 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's happy now, But what's the chances 466 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: actually that all three of the last women just walk. 467 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: I guess it's pretty high. But I can't possibly think 468 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna just be because he sleeps with multiple women 469 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: in the fantasy suite. I mean that happens all the time. 470 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: I know, I always hammer home the fantasy suite isn't 471 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: about sex. So many fantasy suites go on without there 472 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: being sex. Right, he can't be the first person to 473 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: sleep with all the women or the lead I guess 474 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: bachelor or Bachelor like he just he and how many 475 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: seasons we've had. He cannot be the first to have 476 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: sex with each person in the fantasy suite. That's just 477 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: certainly not. Now, he might be the first to talk 478 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: about it, but he's definitely not the first to like 479 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: have it happened. Like, there's just no shot. Now. I 480 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: know people I know leads who have not had like, 481 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: like any physical intimacy with anybody in the fantasy suite. 482 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: They've spent that time doing other stuff and they don't 483 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: feel like it was appropriate. Fine, but I I know 484 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: that he can't be the first. He just can't. He's 485 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: he's not. And you know that all the leads will 486 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: not all of them. I don't know. I would assume 487 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: that the leads who do end up sleeping with multiple 488 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: people in the fantasy suite end up telling the person 489 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: that they choose that that did happen with other people, 490 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: right sort of because they're because they're afraid that they're 491 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: going to find out one way or the other. I 492 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: would think, I mean, yeah, I'm sure some have, and 493 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: that is the kind of relationship you have and kind 494 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: of where you're at. I think also, um, and and 495 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: this used to be a conversation that we would have, 496 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: so I know like some of the ways to go 497 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: about it, and I know how some people have gone 498 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: about it like at some point too. It's kind of 499 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're entering into a new relationship and so 500 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, you there's always the two kind of past. 501 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: When you go into a new relationship, do you talk 502 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: about your past people? Right? Do you do you talk 503 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: about who you've been with and and who you've cared for, 504 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: or do you decide as a couple like, hey, let's 505 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: just not talk about it, right, this is the relationship 506 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: we're now, we're moving forward. The other people that have 507 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: came before you like, they've had a place in my life, 508 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: but we're just it's not important for anybody here to 509 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: know about that. And I mean, I think there's two ways, 510 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: and so maybe they talk about it, maybe they don't. 511 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: If I would have given advice to somebody like try 512 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: not to, Like, it just doesn't feel like it's so 513 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: soon and so sudden that you're like, yeah, last week, sorry, um, 514 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just doesn't feel like it ends 515 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: well ever. But but is that going to be a 516 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: breaking point for all three of these women? I think 517 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: it was going to be. You would think that they 518 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: would say it up front, be like, because that's what 519 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: happened with Maddie remember during theater season, not to draw 520 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: some Ney comparisons, but she basically was like, if you 521 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: do sleep with other girls, like I'm out of here. 522 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair standard to set. Like if 523 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: that's what you, I think, so oh yeah, I mean 524 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're getting engaged, like you would think that 525 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: that person would also say it up front before. I 526 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: think that's part of it. Yeah, yeah, but I do 527 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: think that's part of it. Um. I would be shocked. 528 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: You know, two of the women at this point have 529 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: told Clayton we've seen on camera, like, hey, explore other relationships, 530 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: Like at the end of this, if you're gonna be 531 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: with me, I want to know that you're with me 532 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: because like you explore or everything, and you found out 533 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: just how much you care for me. Gabby said that. 534 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: I believe Susie said that. Um, I think that was 535 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think it was Susie and Gaby. 536 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if, especially Gabby, just how she 537 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: phrased it, and how confident she was and saying it, 538 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: and just kind of how she's gone about this whole process, 539 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: if she would be like super upset with him if 540 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: he came to her and was like no, I did. 541 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: I think she would probably be okay, but I don't know. 542 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming there. Um. The only reason I 543 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: would see that all three of these women would leave 544 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: is because for some reason they've gotten their hearts set on. 545 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: Like Clayton's their husband, and he you know, they just 546 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: have to wait out the time, and he's just kind 547 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: of waiting out the time, and then all of a 548 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: sudden he comes in. It's like, yeah, but I actually 549 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: love all three of you, and I've been intimate with 550 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: you all and like that breaks these women's hearts so 551 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: much that they're like, I saw you as my husband, 552 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: and now I know as I was seeing you as 553 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: my husband, you were also sleeping with somebody else, and 554 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: as a result, I just can't be here for this anymore. 555 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: I could see that happening. I could. I don't know 556 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: if it happens, I just could see it. There's a 557 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: discrepancy here, though, because he says I love or I 558 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: fell in love with three people, but he only says 559 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: I slept with both of you. So when does the 560 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: drama actually go down? And is it about sleeping together? 561 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Is it about the I love yous? Or is it 562 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: about something totally different. I think it might be a 563 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: surprise and we haven't even seen a teaser. For the 564 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: reason that it all goes crumbling down. Well, I'm in 565 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: for it. Actually, we're gonna be watching it. Um. I'd 566 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: say that, you know, the big takeaway from all of 567 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: this during the woman tell all for Clayton is he 568 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: did look scared. He did look sad. If I was 569 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: to read body language, Uh, I don't think he thinks 570 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: these last couple of weeks are gonna be that fun 571 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: for him, not only publicly, but also emotionally. Uh. And 572 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: it looked like out of any bachelor I've seen in 573 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: a long time, it looks like he's like really nervous 574 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: about the weeks to come. I feel like really bad 575 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, I mean because well, I mean people 576 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: call me boring all the time. People called me you 577 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: know that stuff you can get over right, you can 578 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: kind of joke about it in your friends and family. 579 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: You know, they still say it to me today. If 580 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: if like, I'm like, you know, I was trying to 581 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: defend clay and I was like, you know, he's not boring, 582 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: He's not boring, Like he's he's just a human trying 583 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: to do this thing. They're like, yeah, if you're boring, 584 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: that means like you're normal. And I'm like, okay, well 585 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: that's nice, Like that's kind of you to say to me. 586 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: But it still doesn't feel much better when people are 587 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: saying it. But you can get over it. It It doesn't 588 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: haunt you forever. People call you boring because you're not 589 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 1: the most entertaining lead of all times. Uh. But I 590 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: do feel like he's gotten a lot of hate. I 591 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: do feel like he has gotten a tremendous amount. I 592 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: just don't know how many people are a team Clayton. Um. 593 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at social media, his following 594 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: is so low, like he doesn't have the one thing 595 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: that helps when you're a leader and you're on the 596 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: show is for his mean as the public are to you, 597 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: you typically have like people in your corner that are 598 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: following you in social media or whatever, supporting you. And 599 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: I look at that, I'm like, he doesn't even have that, 600 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: Like I hope he knows that he's not He's not 601 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: bad like he's he's been. He's doing the best he can. Now. 602 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: He hasn't made all the perfect decisions, but he's doing 603 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: the best he can. But we'll see Astley the next 604 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: couple weeks. Though, just based on on what we we know, 605 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: the teasers and all that, I do think this might 606 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: get harder for him, and maybe some of the dislike 607 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: or whatever is warranted at some level. I just don't 608 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: think it gets easier. I just feel like he's sitting 609 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: there thinking, what did I do to myself? Oh jeez. 610 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: I just don't know if the Batchel, I mean, Nick 611 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: Nick Vile and I've talked about it many times, and 612 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if if the Bachelor is a great 613 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: gig anymore. I just don't know if it leads to 614 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: great things. Yeah, I don't know. There's one a lither 615 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: thing to talk about about. Okay, I think, what's that Sarah? 616 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: Because we all know that Sarah left because he couldn't 617 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: quite trust her, kind of thought that she was putting 618 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: on an act. And then she gets up there says, no, 619 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: he really did cry during our first one on one, 620 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: and then minutes later, the question is asked to him 621 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: in the hot seat, It's like did you cry and 622 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: he's like, no, I didn't cry in any of our dates, 623 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: and she just caught red handed, and it's really awkward. Yeah, 624 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: why does she do that? Like, why did she do that? 625 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: It's I mean it's like filmed, you know, like there's 626 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: there's very good proof to all of this, like you're 627 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: not getting away with much. Like, yeah, that that's weird. 628 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: I kind of forgot about that. But yes, that's odd 629 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: and awkward and just yeah, weird. There's a good point 630 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: to bring up though. But no, she caught is caught 631 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: red handed. And um, maybe I mean maybe it was 632 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: right that he didn't he didn't trust her. Maybe he's 633 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: all through some of this stuff. Yeah, I can't think 634 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: of anything else that was a real standout moment though, No, 635 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: neither can I. But we do have bachelor headlines, and 636 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: there are a few of them. So let's take a 637 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: break here. Actually, when we come back, we're gonna break 638 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: down bachelor headlines with Ashley I con Eddie Bachelor headlines. 639 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: Here it is, and here is the headline. I spent 640 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: four thousand to be on the Bachelor and I got 641 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: sent home the first night. This according to Insider, So 642 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: so juicy. First off, Ben, how much did you spend 643 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: before going on the Bachelorette Me? Yeah, I know exactly. 644 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean I went and I got three suits from Coals, 645 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: I got them tailored at the mall, and I bought 646 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: a new pair of shoes. So probably three in bucks. Okay, 647 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: So I certainly didn't spend four tho dollars. Um, but 648 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 1: my I did chop a bit and it probably went over. 649 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: It was probably it was in the thousands. Okay, it 650 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: wasn't the thousands this girl. And I have to say 651 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: thank you mom and dad, um this girl, because I 652 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: certainly didn't have thousands of my own to spend at 653 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: the time. This girl's name is Daria Rose. We wouldn't 654 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: know her name because she got eliminated night one. She 655 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: spent about hundred dollars, she says, on dress as, shoes, makeup, 656 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: and hair supplies to be on Clayton's season. But she 657 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: she got eliminated night one. She says, as we all know, 658 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: that it was recommended for her to pack for at 659 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: least six full weeks and she needed to get her 660 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: hair done. Um, she wanted to be totally TV ready. 661 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: She uh, she spent four in makeup and you know, 662 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: a whole bunch on dazzling gowns. But she says that 663 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: she plans on repurposing and donating some of those, So 664 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: that's really nice. I feel really bad for her. It's true. 665 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to navigate the packing list when 666 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I could get Eliminade night one and 667 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: waste all this money on fashion and beauty stuff. But 668 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: what if I'm there for so long and like this 669 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: is national TV and I want to look my best 670 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: and I want to like make a statement and I 671 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: want people talk to you about how much they like 672 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: my outfits and stuff. It's hard. It's hard. They tell 673 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: you to pack everything and a lot of the things 674 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: you just don't have, like I just didn't have like 675 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: cute winter clothes, and they tell you you have to 676 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: pack for all seasons and all occasions in all seasons, 677 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: and you have to do it, and you're doing two bags, 678 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: you two bags. The I ran out of clothes when 679 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: you were still in the mansion. And I remember there 680 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: was some date that were shamboo shoes because I didn't 681 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: have black shoes with me, only brought brown and uh 682 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: he I mean, I'm a size thirteen. I don't know 683 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: what he is like maybe eleven, and so I still 684 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: remember I went on this whole date in size of 685 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: leven shoes and my toes were all like crinkled up. Um, 686 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: I probably ruined them. There. They're probably something super nice. Um, 687 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: But I just and I had some friends over to 688 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: my house, uh, the night before I left, and we 689 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: packed my bags and we just kind of pulled stuff 690 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: out of my closet. And I was a big fan 691 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: of Henley's, and so I wear a lot of henley 692 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: Are the Best. Every guy looks their best and Henley's. Yeah, 693 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: it was I feel bad. That's four thousand bucks, a 694 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: lot of money. I feel bad. She should have kept 695 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: the tags on some of them and were turned as 696 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: I have been smart. Well, next headline is this Clayton 697 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: reveals his top picks for Paradise Plus. Who would he 698 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: set them up with? This? According to Bachelor Nation, Yeah, 699 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 1: so this is fun, okay, but he doesn't really set 700 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: them up with anyone. He doesn't give us any names. 701 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: So he just wants them to be with somebody very good, 702 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: wants to be with them quality man. So basically he 703 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: says that he thinks very highly of Serene and Teddy. 704 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: He says, I think they're going to be incredibly sought 705 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: after as they go there. He's kind of assuming that 706 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: they'll be in paradise. He said, those two are going 707 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: to have their hands full. I think they're both incredible women. 708 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: They're going to be in over their heads, but in 709 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: the best possible way, because they're going to have a 710 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: lot of guys that are going to be interested in 711 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: talking to them. Yeah that's true. Yeah, that's true. I 712 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: mean they're going to be He doesn't set them up. 713 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, give us more than that. Clayton 714 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: tell us names. I mean, if this was her article, 715 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: actually you would have asked him to follow that up. 716 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: You just said, he thank you, Ben, Yeah, you would 717 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: have gone at that guy. Well. Final headline for this 718 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: week is when we got to celebrate Bachelor's Liz sand 719 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: Off gives birth welcome second baby with husband Vito Presta 720 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: Disaccording to US Weekly, if you need a little refresher, 721 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: this is Liz Jade's friend from nixt season, the one 722 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: who hooked up with Nick at Jade and Tanner's wedding. 723 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: She you know, made a whole bunch of splash over that, 724 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: and she just had her second. Man, it feels like 725 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: she just had her first. That's crazy. But congratulations, guys, 726 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: time are you on that same timetable Actuley, You're going 727 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: to be one after the other part of me wants 728 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: to just get it over with because it's you know, 729 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: pregnancy is awful for me. But the other part of 730 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: me wants to be normal and feeling like myself for 731 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: as long as I can. So I'm very torn. That's fair. 732 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: That's fair. Well, Ashley, what an increbl podcast today. We're 733 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna be back tomorrow with a really interesting breakdown. I'm 734 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna tune in. I've watched like maybe the first twenty 735 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: minutes of the Fantasy Suite Um episode episode, but I 736 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: know it gets pretty intense based on the teasers that 737 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: we got, and so I think there's gonna be a 738 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: big conversation that you and I have on this podcast 739 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: about tomorrow night's episode. So I'm excited for it. So 740 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: please come back and listen and join us for this 741 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: second episode this week of the Almost Famous Podcast. But 742 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: for today, I've been Ben, I've been Ashley. Talk to 743 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: you tomorrow by follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost 744 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: Famous podcast on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you 745 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts.