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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: My name is Matt, my name is Nol.

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Speaker 1: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are here. That makes

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Speaker 4: this the stuff they don't want you to know. We've

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Speaker 4: got something very special for you, folks. We hope you

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Speaker 4: enjoy it as much as we do. Instead of our

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Speaker 4: weekly listener mail program, this week, we're publishing our live

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Speaker 4: Q and a session that we had immediately after our

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Speaker 4: live show in the high season International waters. I think

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Speaker 4: we all really enjoyed the conversation. I think we're surprised

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Speaker 5: Last that long.

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Speaker 6: Well, frankly, we wouldn't have released it if it wasn't

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Speaker 6: worth your time, and it really really was. So we

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Speaker 6: got some absolutely fascinating questions from the audience, a few

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Speaker 6: and I think it's some great conversation, some great back

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Speaker 6: and forth and very much in the spirit of listener mail,

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Speaker 6: just like you know in real time with the folks

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Speaker 3: It was a gloriously good time.

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Speaker 2: We hope you guys enjoy it.

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Speaker 5: So here we go, and.

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Speaker 4: With that in mind, because you're our favorite part of

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Speaker 4: the show, we wanted to pass the mic to you.

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Speaker 5: We don't we're into the breach here. Should we do it?

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Speaker 5: Should we do it?

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Speaker 3: Q and A? Oh yeah, we would love to start

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Speaker 3: a Q and A. Yeah. Do you have any questions

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Speaker 3: of any sort about this?

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Speaker 7: About anything?

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Speaker 3: Talking about anything?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So we got one taker.

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Speaker 4: We've got the legendary Carley coming here with a with

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, sorry, we just sprung this on you, Carly.

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Speaker 2: We're just we wanted to do this earlier. That's our

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Speaker 8: You know, taking all the lore out of it, you know,

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Speaker 8: looking at the Munion and triangle as a whole, you're

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Speaker 8: gonna see certain trends. But if you look at singular events,

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Speaker 8: like take the naval bomber wing for example, you know

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Speaker 8: you know, you've got atmospheric pressure. So now you've got

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Speaker 8: five of those that all lose navigation at the same time.

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Speaker 8: How do you see a confluence of things that could

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Speaker 8: explain all of that happening at once?

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Speaker 3: We didn't quite get this.

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Speaker 6: There was a bit about there's a certain phenomenon that

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Speaker 6: I believe has to do with magnetic north versus true north,

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Speaker 3: If you know more, you should say it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, you're bringing up a good point, because this

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Speaker 8: You know, you've got solar flares that can you know,

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Speaker 8: mess with magnetic So there's a lot of singular things

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Speaker 8: explained something that would cover you know, the entire bank

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Speaker 8: Have you guys come up with anything that's connected though,

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen anything that's been.

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Speaker 6: Val the agonic line, by the way, the line that

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Speaker 6: Methods of navigation that can and get messed with as well.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I was thinking about in that specific

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Speaker 8: It solely based off the magnetic fields. So none of

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Speaker 2: My mind immediately went to a chronal mass ejection, like

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Speaker 3: But if it's not electronics, I don't know that that

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Speaker 4: I like your point about a confluence of factors because

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Speaker 4: what we what we found is that there's no silver

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Speaker 5: Uh, And a lot of things can go wrong.

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Speaker 4: So it's quite possible without us being there in the moment,

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Speaker 5: Have missed at that time, you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's likely that there were multiple factors in some

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Speaker 5: That's that's my take.

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Speaker 7: Great question, It is a great question.

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Speaker 3: Good job, sir, classed up to Joe my friend. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, to see if I else have a question for us? Question? Uh, currently,

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Speaker 5: I would love if each of you guys could answer

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Speaker 2: But if you were given presidential level access to all

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Speaker 2: government files for twenty four hours, what's the first thing

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Speaker 7: And why?

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Speaker 6: Wow, let's go with you and put me on the spote.

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Speaker 3: That's a really cool question. Gosh, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'd love to see more information about like certain musical

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Speaker 7: That's just what comes to mind. But that's a really

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Speaker 6: And there's a lot more answers that I could come

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Speaker 4: Oh oh sure, yeah, I think we're on the same

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Speaker 4: see all of that stuff.

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Speaker 5: I want to see it now.

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Speaker 6: In Kultra being the like experiments with dosing the public,

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Speaker 4: Only know a very small amount of that is the public,

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Speaker 4: and we only know that because literally somebody had a

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Speaker 4: they're gonna get me now, you know. So I would

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Speaker 4: love I'd love to figure that out. Of course, anything

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Speaker 4: disclosure related unredacted Project Blue Book will be dope as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know, was Bob Blazar actually working

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Speaker 3: What was that substance? It was he actually there? What

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Speaker 2: Is there anything kept in that specific facility or underneath it?

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Speaker 3: To me, that is the most important information that could exist.

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Speaker 5: Is Bob Blazar in the room with us.

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Speaker 3: Now I was gonna summon him or a conjure of no, no.

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Speaker 2: But but I think for me that going back to

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Speaker 2: my mind's always gonna go, and I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: the most interested in that stuff, probably until I leave

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Speaker 2: the planet or until a president someday says this is it.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen of the United States.

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Speaker 7: They've really been looking for some distractions lately.

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe this will I get it outely.

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Speaker 5: Have a little bit of this line, a little bit

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Speaker 5: of that one. You know, I'm paying no attention to

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Speaker 9: Was curious what each of your personal conspiracy theory wild

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Speaker 9: is conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: That you believe?

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Speaker 2: M all right, fine, it's Project Bluebeam that's mine. Have

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Speaker 2: you ever heard of Project Blue Beam. Anybody, you'll love this.

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Speaker 2: It's the concept that some government somewhere, probably the US,

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Speaker 2: work together rather than against each other in this beautiful

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Speaker 3: The world in some way. It would be super cool

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Speaker 3: if it was happening.

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Speaker 2: And there is tech that can shoot holograms up into

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Speaker 3: So was it drone swarm? Drones? Weird?

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Speaker 4: Give a drone swarm over North Sentinel Island, you know,

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Speaker 3: But nobody's focusing on drone tech right now.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one thing, So give you one wild one that

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Speaker 4: scare everybody. So one of the wild ones that I'm

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Speaker 4: personally just fascinated with would be work coming from kind

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Speaker 4: of out there authors like Rahm Hancock and the idea

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Speaker 4: that somewhere in genetic code in a way that we

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Speaker 4: don't understand there's a possibility of transmitting, you know, not

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Speaker 5: Right, this is related, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: A high octane version of things like the study of epigenetics,

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Speaker 4: and epigenetics shows us that things that happened to you

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Speaker 4: physically during your time can affect the genetic expression of

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Speaker 4: proven science. But the idea that all right, you guys

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Speaker 4: seem cool.

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Speaker 5: So this is a drug reference. Okay.

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Speaker 4: So one of the interesting things we read when we

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Speaker 4: were doing episodes on DMT and various lucinogens and psychedelics

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Speaker 4: allow you to talk to something inside your DNA, which

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Speaker 4: The real the one we can prove that everybody needs

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Speaker 4: is the Invention Secrecy Act from the nineteen fifties.

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Speaker 5: If you invent something and uncle Sam, by hook.

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Speaker 4: Or by crook deems it a national security threat no

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Speaker 5: Is this a real animal? Are you guys like snipe

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Speaker 4: Because I missed the truck And their answer was, it's

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Speaker 5: The squawk is the saddest, the single tier. It looks

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Speaker 4: I love the squad and we learned about especially in

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Speaker 5: What was that the bird thing?

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Speaker 3: I just know Mothman, Dude.

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Speaker 5: Mothman and his prophecy.

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Speaker 7: That guy's got a serious six pack. Dude is ripped.

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Speaker 7: This angler fish with like the lanterns they create their own.

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Speaker 5: Lights like those.

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Speaker 6: Those are the closest things to aliens that I think exist.

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Speaker 5: They got a real mess up sex, like I bet

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Speaker 3: It, guys. I think we just talked on one question

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, let's.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, Yes, I have a question for you.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything that you don't want us to know

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Speaker 2: Guy?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Correct, Hey, guys, it's good to see what we met earlier.

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Speaker 3: That's a I had breakfast with guy. Everybody, Sorry, that's

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Speaker 3: full disclosure.

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Speaker 4: Okay, gosh, what do we want to say?

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Speaker 6: There is absolutely you know, wonderful to have that level

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Speaker 6: of trust, in that level of partnership. And I say

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Speaker 6: corporate overlords with love. By the way, I hope that's clear.

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Speaker 5: One thing.

452
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Speaker 4: I love this Scientology example because you know, we want

453
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Speaker 4: no stone left unturned. But the point about being litigious,

454
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Speaker 4: there are things where we had to be a little

455
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Speaker 4: bit careful.

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Speaker 7: And are they ligious.

457
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Speaker 5: They'll come for you, they will find you.

458
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Clearwater, Florida is not that far away, and they

459
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Speaker 4: we had a moment. I think we remember, we're doing

460
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Speaker 4: the show on something they did called Operation snow White,

461
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Speaker 4: which was a huge heist against the IRS.

462
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Speaker 5: I'm not the biggest fan of the Irs.

463
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Speaker 4: Personally, but I don't think you should try to do

464
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Speaker 4: a heist. We'll get in trouble. So we had to

465
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Speaker 4: we had to phrase it so carefully. We had to

466
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Speaker 4: say the Church of Scientology maintains to this day that

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Speaker 4: they never did Operations snow White.

468
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Speaker 5: They never approved it.

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Speaker 4: They're not trying to heist the government Several people disagree,

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Speaker 4: including the United States Supreme Court.

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Speaker 6: Well, if anyone's ever read the alex or No that

472
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Speaker 6: the book that the Alex Givene documentary Going Clear was

473
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Speaker 6: based on, the footnotes alone in that book like are massive.

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Speaker 6: And that's because it'll be all this stuff in the

475
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Speaker 6: text about a thing that supposedly happened, and then the

476
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Speaker 6: footnotes it says the Church of Scientology disavows that this

477
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Speaker 6: ever happens, and so you know, it's it's bonkers.

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Speaker 5: You really do have to be careful with those monks, Matt,

479
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Speaker 5: you go one.

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Speaker 2: Might I go back to the stuff that the MythBusters

481
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Speaker 2: guys said they couldn't talk about, and I don't want to.

482
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Speaker 3: I don't want to tell tales out of school.

483
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Speaker 2: It has to do with credit card technology and how

484
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Speaker 2: credit cards get read and how there's like some dangers

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Speaker 2: to some of that that maybe we don't fully understand,

486
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Speaker 2: as people who just buy or get a credit card

487
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Speaker 2: and then use it to purchase things by going boop.

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Speaker 3: That's all. Don't let into it. Everything's fine, that's just it.

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Speaker 3: That's the front door of the rabbit hole.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So first off, I want to light something up

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Speaker 9: and smoke it with you all, because I feel like

492
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Speaker 9: that would be a fabulous time And I'm a film fan,

493
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Speaker 9: as I know.

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Speaker 3: The three of you guys are too.

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Speaker 9: If you had twenty four hours left on earth, you

496
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Speaker 9: had one movie to chick in, which one would you

497
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Speaker 9: choose and what makes you connect to that to that

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Speaker 9: film holy.

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Speaker 5: Craft, other than vibes.

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Speaker 9: Either than vibes included either than.

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Speaker 7: Vibes of the movie, not just vibes in general.

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Speaker 3: The American cinematic.

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Speaker 5: Masterfee Jeff Blum of Sydney Laupers. So we're gonna bracket

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Speaker 5: that one because that's how it answer.

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Speaker 7: Would it be Police Academy three for you?

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Speaker 5: Maybe four? I don't know. I'm thinking through it, like, okay,

507
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Speaker 5: so you have twenty four hours.

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Speaker 6: I think for me it would probably be either the

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Speaker 6: Roberto Benini movie Life is Beautiful, because it makes me

510
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Speaker 6: feel a way and it's like funny and also touching

511
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Speaker 6: and moving and.

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Speaker 7: It's beautiful to look at.

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Speaker 5: I was so really, really really really like.

514
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Speaker 6: Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie One Battle after Another.

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Speaker 10: I feel like it's so.

516
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Speaker 6: Prescient for what's going on, especially for a thing that

517
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Speaker 6: you've been working on for twenty years. And this happened

518
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Speaker 6: to come out at this time, and that movie is

519
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Speaker 6: also really funny and exciting and just powerful. So I

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Speaker 6: don't know that's what's on my mind right now.

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Speaker 2: Uh, look, full disclosure again, I keep doing that. I

522
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Speaker 2: was a film student in Georgia and journalism minor. And

523
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Speaker 2: my favorite film that I've only seen once, and I

524
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Speaker 2: don't know that I would watch it again unless I

525
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Speaker 2: knew I only had twenty four hours on earth is

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Speaker 2: Tree of Life by Terrence Malick.

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Speaker 3: And it is because it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough watch and it's very meditative and beautiful

529
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Speaker 2: and amazing and wonderful.

530
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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't just sit down to go, all right, Saturday,

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Speaker 3: let's tree life this thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a long movie. It's very art it's very artistic,

533
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Speaker 2: it's moving, it's.

534
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Speaker 3: All kinds of things.

535
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Speaker 7: Dinosaurs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not a like let's hang out and

537
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Speaker 2: actually have fun kind of thing. It's like, let's go

538
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Speaker 2: in and learn and feel.

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Speaker 4: So that would be my choice, and not to deflect here,

540
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Speaker 4: but I really like this question and I don't want to.

541
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Speaker 4: I want to meditate, like chew on it a little bit.

542
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Speaker 4: Are you are you getting off the boat tonight. Are

543
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Speaker 4: you going to be here a while? Okay, cool, let's

544
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Speaker 4: let's hang out. Let me really, I really want to

545
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Speaker 4: think about that.

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Speaker 3: That's the next Police Academy four.

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Speaker 5: But that's not that's not a film, that's an experience. Yeah,

548
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Speaker 5: you know it's gotta be on VHS.

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Speaker 6: How many Police Academies are there?

550
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Speaker 5: Like six right now?

551
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Speaker 6: But we'll just bring Do you think they're going to

552
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Speaker 6: do a Police Academy reboot?

553
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Speaker 5: That's all it's time. The Naked Gun reboot was really good.

554
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Speaker 5: That was it was fun, all right.

555
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Speaker 4: So I'll find you when I get when I get

556
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Speaker 4: my together.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, what's your next question?

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Speaker 14: Yes, if you have just a moment, I want to

559
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Speaker 14: caveat this. If you've ever flown an aircraft over the ocean,

560
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Speaker 14: it's easy to lose the horizon. That's a given fact.

561
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Speaker 14: I mean, they just so if you're not instrument trained,

562
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Speaker 14: you can.

563
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Speaker 10: Fly it right into the water.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 14: And you're talking about back to the Navy program. This

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Speaker 14: is part of this is her expression, and then I'll

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Speaker 14: ask for a character for forgiveness later.

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Speaker 5: But if you're.

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Speaker 14: Flying information and you hit a fort, it hit a storm,

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Speaker 14: you said it was.

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Speaker 10: About three forty five in the afternoon.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if day like saving time was in,

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Speaker 14: but if they were flying west and it was as

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Speaker 14: late as four thirty in the afternoon or three forty

575
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Speaker 14: in the afternoon, it had been.

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Speaker 10: Flying into the sun. If you're driving down on the

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Speaker 10: highway and you.

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Speaker 14: Hit into a deluge and you think you're gonna go

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Speaker 14: seventeen miles an hour, all of a sudden, everybody's going

580
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Speaker 14: forty miles an hour, you don't have that opportunity in

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Speaker 14: an aircraft.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the game pull up. All it takes is for

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Speaker 10: the first guy to have vertigo.

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Speaker 14: If the other four weren't instrument training, it would have

585
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Speaker 14: flown right into the ocean.

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Speaker 3: Because they just stay in formation with that first thing.

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Speaker 14: They said, the first one that goes in, they wouldn't

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Speaker 14: see it. And a caveat this two ways. I have

589
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Speaker 14: over two thousand hours in both the military ands of

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Speaker 14: the end time line. Fifty'all got a flat, right, and

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Speaker 14: thank you, that's not the caveat.

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Speaker 5: That's gets cool.

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Speaker 10: That's just cool that it's worse I've seen a UFO.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's better. Let's let's put a pin

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Speaker 3: in that.

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Speaker 7: We'll put a pin in that earlier.

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Speaker 10: You'll you'll notice my wife left me before I set.

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Speaker 5: You whats coming?

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Speaker 3: Can you tell us anything about it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, just got This was in Orlando and I was

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Speaker 10: coming back.

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Speaker 14: But another this guy had a private private's license as well,

603
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Speaker 14: and I had just gotten out of the military.

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Speaker 10: So I set the set the scene. We were coming back.

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Speaker 14: It was not quite dark yet from playing golf, we

606
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Speaker 14: weren't drinking, we hadn't been at the ninth hole or

607
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Speaker 14: nineteenth hole, and all of a sudden, this.

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Speaker 10: I don't know how to describe it, just a light.

609
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Speaker 14: Swords came over, our heads turned a little bit, and

610
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Speaker 14: then without emotion, well it ain't not that much, without

611
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Speaker 14: sound and anything else, just disappeared.

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Speaker 10: Now again, I was fresh out of the military.

613
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Speaker 14: I went back and called the tower McCoy Air Force

614
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Speaker 14: Base which is now Orlandum International, and told.

615
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Speaker 10: Them what I thought.

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Speaker 14: I said, look, I'm not a nutcase, but here's what

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Speaker 14: I saw. Yeah, and he said, well, thank you, and

618
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Speaker 14: I gave him left my name in number. Two weeks later,

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Speaker 14: they called me and told me that three other commercial

620
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Speaker 14: aircraft had broke in formation that evening at that same

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Speaker 14: time frame, and they couldn't explain why because they thought

622
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Speaker 14: another vessel was crossing their flight path.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Holy mackerel.

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Speaker 5: So this was an Orlando mco.

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Speaker 10: It's got to be in the history book somewhere on

626
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Speaker 10: the records you need.

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Speaker 14: My theory about the five Navy aircraft I think is

628
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Speaker 14: probably pretty close because I've been in an aircraft over

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Speaker 14: the English Channel and my pilot and controls of the

630
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Speaker 14: time got vertigo and I had to wrestle the controls

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Speaker 14: out of their hands.

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Speaker 7: So we're heading into white water, right, isn't that?

633
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Speaker 14: White water is easy to explain if you're flying into

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Speaker 14: the sun and it's a heavy rainstorm, it's just like

635
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Speaker 14: driving heavy rainstorm at night or indeed or in the day.

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Speaker 10: And the sun is on the other side of the rain. Totally,

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Speaker 10: it will blame you. Wow, I think we Okay, Well,

638
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Speaker 10: thank you so.

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Speaker 5: Much, so much, so thank you for ser.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Wow. Any other questions, well else, we got a couple

642
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Speaker 5: of folks, so fun.

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Speaker 14: All right.

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Speaker 15: So I'm from Mississippi, and in southern Mississippi we had

645
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Speaker 15: a stand a space center and they test rockets there. Okay,

646
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Speaker 15: So when you are talking about the commuter triangle and

647
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Speaker 15: weather happens and nobody control it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 15: My thing is that I want to ask you all

650
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Speaker 15: what you think about HARP and government weather control.

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Speaker 7: If you can talk about it. We know it's possible.

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Speaker 6: We know, like cloud seating and the way that's been

653
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Speaker 6: used in spectacles for example, like was it in the

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Speaker 6: Beijing Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it advances the two thousand and eight

656
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Speaker 4: Beijing Olympics, the government of China did participate in cloud seating.

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Speaker 5: It's an old technology. It was very.

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Speaker 4: Imperfect because weather so systems are one big into related organism.

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Speaker 4: So you can see clouds of one region and bring

660
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Speaker 4: some rain, but that rain, that moisture comes from somewhere else,

661
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Speaker 4: So someone else is going to have a bad day.

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Speaker 4: Right when you're having the ion a sphere and when

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Speaker 4: you're in the low the lower parts of the atmosphere.

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Speaker 4: This means that weather manipulation, the idea has been kind

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Speaker 4: of weaponized.

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Speaker 5: Right to dismiss it.

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Speaker 6: It would be an imprecise thing at best.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's imprecise at best. It's a perfect word for it.

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Speaker 4: And then heart man for years in the early days, we.

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Speaker 5: Were upset hearth heart Climer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, up there

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Speaker 5: northward bound.

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Speaker 2: The high frequency Active Auroral Research program. That's one of

673
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: the first things we covered together back on YouTube a

674
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: long time ago.

675
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: Long time, long time ago. And the thing that really

676
00:31:53,760 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: made us suspicious about it is the US government inarticular

677
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 4: is really bad at trying to reassure you or make

678
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: you not look into stuff because you ask about HARP

679
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: and they're like the all right, seventy one cursing, We

680
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: asked about HARP, and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

681
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: we're just you know, we're up there in the north

682
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: and we're just sort of around with the eye honesty

683
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: or just see.

684
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 5: What happens where people come in there. Yeah, there's like

685
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: nothing to worry about.

686
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: We're just doing experiments, you know what kind of experiments

687
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: And they say, ah, look, I'm gonna have to let

688
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: you go.

689
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 5: We'll talk later.

690
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: But I think knowing that cloud seeding is real, knowing

691
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: that there are active HARP is closed down there officially,

692
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: But knowing that there are active research programs that were

693
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: quite well funded in their time to do things that

694
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: were quite obtuse to the American taxpayer, is itself a

695
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: worrying proposition.

696
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 5: So I think, to speaking for myself, I personally think

697
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 5: there's something to it. Now.

698
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: I don't know about you, man, I don't know about

699
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: you know, but I think I think that's a little

700
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: closer to conspiracy, actual conspiracy.

701
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty nuts. Did you talk about what it

702
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: can theoretically do?

703
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: Harp? Oh, we gave them the official government explanation. Let's

704
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: talk about theoretically.

705
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: The theory is that this it's a fairly small research station,

706
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: can send a signal basically of energy out into the

707
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: atmosphere in a way that it comes back down onto

708
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: another place on the Earth and it actually affects the ionosphere.

709
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: It functions through the ionosphere, right, is that? Okay, Well

710
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: that's the theoretical concept of.

711
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: What this thing can do. And I remember we were

712
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: looking at it, and then.

713
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: You see things happening in the news, especially when there's

714
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: like a a pretty high profile wildfire or a fire

715
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: that affects a city or it's fires is usually the

716
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: thing that you mostly see it with, or a huge

717
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: power outage like a grid an entire grid goes down,

718
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: HARP comes up on the internet with comments and people saying, oh,

719
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: it's probably harp, that's what it was. But if you

720
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: talk to anybody who actually works at that facility or

721
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: has anything to do with that program that is not

722
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: at all what the facility does and what it studies.

723
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: And most of it happens a lot when it's a

724
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: facility that is either a telescope or is meant to,

725
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: you know, study dark Oh what is it, gravitational waves

726
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 2: or something that is kind of outside of our full

727
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: scientific understanding, has just lay people walking around. There's this

728
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: concept that perhaps there is some kind of sinister use

729
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: for whatever that is. Instead, Oh, they're creating portals out

730
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: there with the large Hadron collider, right, that this concept,

731
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: when the science is so beyond us, it must be

732
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: something that's crazier than what they're actually attempting to do.

733
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: And I think that's often what happens with.

734
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 5: Harp Yeah, I would agree with that.

735
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: We also know that so much of so much of

736
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 4: scientific progress and technological progress does come from military funding.

737
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 4: Shout out to our pals at DARPA. Yeah, I see

738
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 4: you up there, Get up.

739
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding we.

740
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 4: DARPA is is an amazing and strange organization and similar

741
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: to Heart, DARPA is the subject of so many conspiracy theories.

742
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 4: You know, and the thing that we have to realize

743
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: is you will have brilliant, well intentioned scientists and researchers,

744
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: and they will be focused on like a purely mathematical

745
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: or purely academic problem. And the second stage of that

746
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: is where Uncle Sam comes in or whatever the local

747
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: version of Uncle Sam is and says, Okay, we get it.

748
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: This is amazing. We dig this microwave idea. Just for example,

749
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: how can we can we make this a weapon?

750
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: Really mean edge, you know, the poor scientists is like,

751
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: well this is I just thought it'd be you know,

752
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: cool if we could talk to whales and they're like,

753
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: all right, well what if we could make the whales soldiers?

754
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: Like it turns into this weird brainstormy picked me melt

755
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 4: the lasers on the freaking dolphins, you know, which is.

756
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: A real thing. Sharks with lasers attachment.

757
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 7: There were weaponized dolphins. That is a thing.

758
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: So we see, I mean, so what we see that

759
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: is kind of what's like a Vinn diagram of speculation,

760
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: but it's it's based on truth. Similar to conspiracy theories

761
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: about the Bermuda Triangle, things really did, for one reason

762
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: or another disappear.

763
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: They haven't been found and.

764
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: From that, from that seed of truth grows an oak

765
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: tree of possibility and speculation.

766
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: Pre point time for a break.

767
00:36:49,840 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: Ads, we'll be right back. We're back, well should we,

768
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: Carly's I don't see you?

769
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 16: Carly?

770
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: I see you?

771
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 10: Okay?

772
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: If are there more questions?

773
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 7: Moon landing, which'll got? How do they get that camera

774
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 7: out there?

775
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

776
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: Moonlanding?

777
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: Well here's one for me.

778
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: How do they get such great imagery with just running

779
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: that film camera? Right?

780
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, that's just knowing.

781
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 16: You know again, I'm a film student, guys, so you know,

782
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 16: if you want to talk about Maison San or anything

783
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 16: like that, the moltee, but just cranking a camera, a

784
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 16: film camera while wearing that outfit, that was always the

785
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 16: most mind blowing thing to me.

786
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: How could you get such beautiful, incredible imagery through that?

787
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: Is it just chance?

788
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: Because it would have to be it would have to

789
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: be pure chance that you're cranking that thing and it

790
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: feels good.

791
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: And there's also I'm.

792
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: Looking at you because I know you know a lot

793
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: of stuff about some of this. There were other cameras

794
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: on board, I believe right there were more the television

795
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: cameras theoretically that are also running film. They were not handcring. Wow,

796
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: they're already pre round, so once you hit it, it

797
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: just goes yeah that okay, sure.

798
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot

799
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: of sense. The science takes in bath.

800
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 5: That it's.

801
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: I believe in you man, that's such a good point.

802
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: And we can see that there's stuff there, right, I mean,

803
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: you could be down here and you can actually.

804
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: Shoot lasers up and see that there's stuff on the

805
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: Moon that we put their humans put there.

806
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: Right.

807
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: But it is kind of weird.

808
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: Just because of the geopolitical tensions that were happening at

809
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: the time, it was really convenient for the US to

810
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: be able to land on the Moon in that moment.

811
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: That's a little weird to me.

812
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: I got nothing, No, I think you was pretty anti moved.

813
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 7: Well, you know, whether the moon exists or not, it's

814
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 7: a whole other question.

815
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 6: I got my haircut in Atlanta, and like the guy

816
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 6: that was cutting my hair, I got a pitch for you, man,

817
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 6: the moon isn't real.

818
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, You're like, okay, I'm gonna

819
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: be in this seat for a watch.

820
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 7: So rough.

821
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 6: He was a nice dude, but I think he might

822
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 6: be misinformed about that particular one. But I do sometimes

823
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: wonder about the quality of it as well, and I

824
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: sometimes wonder if I get what you're saying about. I

825
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 6: can take a picture, I can't build a rocket, But

826
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: I do sometimes feel like the footage feels a little stage.

827
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 6: But I'm pretty sure we did do it, but that

828
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 6: maybe there's a chance that they needed to make it

829
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 6: have that wow factor, so they like stage something.

830
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: After the fact.

831
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 7: I don't know.

832
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: It feels like in my mind like I don't know,

833
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what very I want to tell you

834
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: what to believe.

835
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: It does feel like a combination of actual scientific achievement,

836
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: actual amazing things that humanity was able to do, but

837
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: also it was made to look a certain way because

838
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: there was a need.

839
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 5: A propagandistic need.

840
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 4: We also there's a theory we ran into from some

841
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: colleagues earlier, Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing, But he's

842
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: such a fancy auteur that the only way they could

843
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: fake it is going to the moon and faking it.

844
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 6: That some of the stuff, Yeah, I love bit that

845
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 6: Christopher Nolan, you know, needed to actually detonate an a

846
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: bomb to make to make copy.

847
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was crazy on their budget.

848
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: What do we think, guys, We've got one more?

849
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 10: Okay, all right, what's up guys.

850
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 13: So one question I have at least to get your

851
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 13: opinion on is what do you think of the Graham

852
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 13: Hancock ancient apocalypse conspiracy is not coming out of the

853
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 13: origins of human history?

854
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 10: And how far back that goes?

855
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: Oh, we just talked about this.

856
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: There's a really cool thing that might interest you called

857
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: the Silurian hypothesis. It's a doctor who referenced Britty Fellow Nerds,

858
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: and the idea is that because of the span of

859
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: time and the relatively brief moment of the fad we

860
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 4: call human civilization, the question is is it possible that

861
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 4: an incredibly advanced civilization could have risen and it could

862
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: arose and fell, and then so much time would have

863
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 4: ground on that humans now would not be able to

864
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: tell what happened.

865
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: And so when we were fascinated with that study.

866
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: And we were reading through it, and they're very clear

867
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: that it's a thought experiment, but personally they changed my

868
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: mind about a lot of stuff. Right, Like, you think

869
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 4: about all the things humans can build now or have

870
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: built thousands of years ago, and the footprints on the

871
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: moon are probably going to last longer.

872
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 6: We talked about this too, and we were talking into

873
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 6: some level journalists earlier about how some like ancient Aliens

874
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 6: theories and this kind of stuff, it's sort of dismissive

875
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 6: of indigenous culture where you know, this guy Graham Hancock,

876
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 6: apparently they scrap plans to make a Netflix Ancient Apocalypse

877
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 6: documentary because of outcry from some Native American groups because

878
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 6: of the way he more or less erases their cultural

879
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 6: footprint by saying that this other thing happened, you know,

880
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 6: that it was somehow, something more than just human ingenuity

881
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 6: that created some of these sites and features and similar

882
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 6: with like the pyramids, and you know, so there is

883
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 6: this sense that it's sort of like a cultural erasure

884
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 6: certain types of theories that go into this like ancient Apocalypse,

885
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 6: ancient Aliens kind of stuff.

886
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 5: I think it'd be cool if there was an ancient civilization,

887
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 5: you know, I.

888
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: Just that's where I'm at with a lot I think

889
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: that's where all three of us are at. With a

890
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: lot of these You go through all the research and

891
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: look at all the possibilities. At the end, you just

892
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: kind of look around and go.

893
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 7: It would be pretty cool.

894
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: Though, well you know what I mean, it feels like

895
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Look I was, I haven'tny I haven't had anything to

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Speaker 2: smoke or anything, but man, I've that question makes me

898
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Speaker 2: feel as though I'm out of my body almost when

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Speaker 2: I really start to think about what being alive is like,

900
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Speaker 2: feels like what I experience, you know, with my senses

901
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Speaker 2: and just to feel myself in one place, in any

902
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Speaker 2: one time. And then I imagine that this experience, if

903
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Speaker 2: we're having right now, and if evolution is true, that

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Speaker 2: means that creatures beings, things that have been able to

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Speaker 2: feel and sense and think in some way have been

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Speaker 2: around for millions and millions and millions and millions and.

907
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Speaker 3: Millions of years.

908
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Speaker 2: And then the life forms that created those that have

909
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Speaker 2: been around for billions and billions of years on.

910
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Speaker 3: Those time scales, and all of that that.

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Speaker 7: Was it.

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Speaker 2: TV shows a documentary series called Life After People like eight.

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Speaker 2: I think when it came out, it tells you Ben.

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Speaker 3: Just kind of mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: It shows you how quickly nature takes over and destroys

916
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Speaker 2: and digests everything and anything. Right, So then if I

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Speaker 2: think about those time skills, and I think about what

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Speaker 2: we understand about that science. It feels like easily something

919
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Speaker 2: else could have happened, right, and we just haven't dug

920
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Speaker 2: in the right places or we don't understand what we're looking.

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Speaker 3: At when we find some some of these things like, uh,

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Speaker 3: is it is it be mean? I still don't but

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Speaker 3: but something like that, and you just it's it's fascinating

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Speaker 3: to think about it.

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Speaker 2: But I also see the criticism right of if you

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Speaker 2: take that too far and then you decide that you know,

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Speaker 2: the indigenous peoples in this area didn't actually create that

928
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Speaker 2: thing when they absolutely did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we still don't know the full official story

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Speaker 4: of the modern homeless saviors, right, Like I think not

931
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Speaker 4: to date me one other than ourselves here, but I

932
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Speaker 4: think we were all we all remembered when folks looked

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Speaker 4: into DNA and they said, holy smokes, there's a thing

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Speaker 4: we didn't know about.

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Speaker 5: One of the early mixtapes of people.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's gonna be more of that, and so there's

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Speaker 7: more of that.

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Speaker 4: So we don't really know the current guess is that

939
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Speaker 4: what we call the modern Homo sapien came onto the

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Speaker 4: scene as the new kid on the block about two

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Speaker 4: hundred thousand years ago. However, with every passing decade, that

942
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 4: timeline gets pushed back a bit further, right because, like

943
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: Matt was saying, someone lucks out, they win the lottery,

944
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: they dig in the right place where fossilization could occur,

945
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Speaker 4: and they say, holy smokes.

946
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Speaker 5: Like, guys, we got to print new textbooks. We screwed

947
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 5: that one up. And with that, I think it's so real.

948
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Speaker 4: Skepticism is not having like that kind of zealous confirmation

949
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: bias and saying I've decided what is or isn't true,

950
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Speaker 4: Therefore anything to violates that is malarkey to meism please

951
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: language right right right, real skepticism, it does need a

952
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: high degree of meaning. I'm smart enough to change my

953
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: mind when I discover a.

954
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Speaker 5: New fact, smart enough to know what I don't know.

955
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's a big part of what we tried

956
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: to bring to every conversation that we have.

957
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 10: Self awareness goes a hell of a long way.

958
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Speaker 5: What was it that movie we were just talking about,

959
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 5: being the Life of Chuck.

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Speaker 6: They referenced this this Carl Sagan concept of like the

961
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Speaker 6: universal calendar, the idea that if like this whole span

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Speaker 6: of time and civilization and everything we know was condensed

963
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Speaker 6: to a calendar year that humans would basically have come

964
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Speaker 6: into existence in the final seconds of the last day.

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Speaker 7: Yes, like it's it's a lot.

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Speaker 6: And the fact that you know, DNA this discovery that

967
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Speaker 6: changed everything and about the way we think about humans

968
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Speaker 6: and we think about biology. You know, with such a

969
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Speaker 6: relatively recent discovery, there's gonna be more of those where

970
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: that came from in theory. And I to quote the

971
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Speaker 6: great scientist Emma Stone, she is she had a really

972
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Speaker 6: good perspective at can or some film festival where she

973
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 6: was just saying, like, there's just no possible way that

974
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Speaker 6: given all of that space and all of that ink

975
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 6: and all of that you know, negative space and under

976
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Speaker 6: the ocean.

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Speaker 7: Or whether there's not something that we don't know about.

978
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 5: And that's like the whole thesis of you brought it

979
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 5: back to the ocean.

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Speaker 2: That's also gonna take it to velociraptors and amber and

981
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: dinosaurs and DNA. That's why I remember about DNA, that

982
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: little character.

983
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: Life like clip.

984
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 13: He was like.

985
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 5: DNA, you can.

986
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Speaker 4: And the good news is if you are looking for

987
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: cryptids and mysterious large creatures, the ocean right beneath us

988
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: is the best place to find them on Earth right now.

989
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: Even better news.

990
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: Is that although we may be at times cryptic for

991
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: cryptis ourselves.

992
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 5: We're pretty easy to find on the boat.

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00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,800
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00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,279
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00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,200
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00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, please hang with us.

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998
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Speaker 11: throw in the fact, thanks to young thank.

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Speaker 5: You so much all their.

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