WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Black Boxes Work

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, it's me Josh and for this week's s

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<v Speaker 1>Y s K Selects, I've chosen How Black Boxes Work,

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<v Speaker 1>which I had forgotten, was a special request from our

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Cormack Ron Dazzo, who is an absolute cute kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Where he was at the time that this came out

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's a cool dude from what I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>At any rate, Kick back and enjoy a look at

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing invention that can survive a plane crash. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff you Should Know, a production of My Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark and they're sitting by me. Is Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant across from you and Jerry Rowland beside us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. Yeah, this is stuff you should Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a fan request by one of our

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<v Speaker 1>younger fans. Yeah, when Cormack run Dazzo, it's right, our buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's son and wife Cat. They all listen as a

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<v Speaker 1>family and it's adorable they shout at their stereo as

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<v Speaker 1>a family. Yeah, apparently Cat shouted at the stereo. When

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't remember thirteen year old girls doing fingerspelling sign language,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe said, cat was like, how can he not have

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<v Speaker 1>known this? That's all we did. It wasn't around um Toledo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, Emily didn't know about it either,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was in Ohio, So maybe it's everywhere but Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio colon left behind as usual. It's pretty funny. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Cormack suggested that we do an episode on black box

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<v Speaker 1>flight recorders, and that's what we're doing. Yeah, so Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'll indulge me before we get started. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you remember, but a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>a fans and in some day planners for us UM

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<v Speaker 1>that were like year long day planners. The the ones

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<v Speaker 1>made out of old library books, yeah, and like um

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<v Speaker 1>and they had like like day coupage like liquor stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on the on The covers are great perfect. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>find anything even remotely that good anywhere I've been looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. So dear listener, if you're still out

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<v Speaker 1>there and you were listening, UM, get in touch with us,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would love to buy those from you. Every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah you like those? Oh they were great? Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean went crazy for it. Yeah, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>are that person, get in touch with us. Put in

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<v Speaker 1>the subject line, I'm the person Josh is looking for

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<v Speaker 1>our day planners. Yeah, okay, thank you, Chuck. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking black boxes, that's right, it's pretty interesting. I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should probably put to rest the inane question of

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<v Speaker 1>if they can make something like a black box that

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<v Speaker 1>can survive an airplane car crash, why don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>make the whole airplane out of a black box material?

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer is because it wouldn't fly. Simp is

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<v Speaker 1>that Yeah, So I'm glad we got that out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Yeah, and they're also we should go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and say right up front, they're not black. Uh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>generally like bright orange with like reflective tape and things,

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to be able to find it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>amongst the rubble as of the I think the sixties

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<v Speaker 1>or seventies, there became a mandate where you had to

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<v Speaker 1>paint them bright orange so you could find them. But

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<v Speaker 1>they think that they were called black boxes originally because

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<v Speaker 1>either the original ones were black or because it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a grim moniker because the boxes will become

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<v Speaker 1>charred in the wreckage and turn black. Yeah, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>another explanation to that. I don't think holds water. That

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<v Speaker 1>they were initially like round and red and uh, when

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<v Speaker 1>they first debuted it, someone in the room said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what a nice black box, as a smarmie thing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess about something that's round and red. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that holds water though. Yeah. It's weird all around.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently in the aviation industry they don't call them

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<v Speaker 1>black boxes anyway. That's like something for the news media

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<v Speaker 1>and jerks like us, they probably call them crash survivalbal

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<v Speaker 1>memory units. I think what they column is either one

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<v Speaker 1>of the two things that are either a flight data

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<v Speaker 1>recorder or a voice box. Well, there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of um. Yeah, it's not that hard. But because

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<v Speaker 1>of the media and in part because of this article, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very unclear that black boxes are different things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two different we'll get into it, but there's really

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<v Speaker 1>two different kinds. And what you would think of as

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<v Speaker 1>a black box is actually a group of components the

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<v Speaker 1>system that yeah, that formed this system that's meant to

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<v Speaker 1>record the flight data and the cockpit um sounds, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the discussion and the beeps and the pings and

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<v Speaker 1>all that of every single flight that goes into the

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<v Speaker 1>air commercial flight. Yeah, um, in order, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>is housed in a way that it will survive. I've

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<v Speaker 1>even a horrible plane crash. It's frequently the only survivor

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<v Speaker 1>of a plane crash. Yeah. And we'll get to the

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<v Speaker 1>testing of these which I thought was kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>coolest part later. Yeah, I thought so too. And the

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<v Speaker 1>whole point is, of course, is to get all the

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<v Speaker 1>data to figure out what happened in a plane crash,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, because very frequently that it's not. Again, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's the sole survivor, then there's no one there to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well there's fire. There's fire. It's somebody lit a fire

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<v Speaker 1>in the cabin and and the whole the plane blew up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could hit play and you're the pilots going

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<v Speaker 1>someone lit a fire in the cabin, right, and there

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<v Speaker 1>you have it. Yeah, but it's a little more complicated

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<v Speaker 1>than that. Uh. And goes back to UH. In the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forties, there was a Finish aviation engineer named V. A.

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<v Speaker 1>Ho which doesn't sound finish, um the immigration and he

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<v Speaker 1>did some of the first UM flight recording was something

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<v Speaker 1>called the Mata Harre for World War two planes test

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<v Speaker 1>flights basically, but I think it was only like instrument

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<v Speaker 1>readings at the time. It wasn't recording uh uh, any

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<v Speaker 1>voices like cockpit recording. Well, supposedly the right brothers had

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of recording device to record the propeller rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's like there's been flight data

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<v Speaker 1>ever since there's been flight that's awesome. I found that

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<v Speaker 1>an Australian named David Warren was the one who really

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<v Speaker 1>came up with the black box recorder. Yeah, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that brought the voices into it, the actual audio recording. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He was a member of a crash investigation

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<v Speaker 1>for a mysterious plane crash and he thought it would

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<v Speaker 1>be really good if we had like a recording of

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on at the time. So he developed him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like that, you couldn't be too hard. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was the fifties I believe, and they became widespread and

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<v Speaker 1>mandated in the sixties. Yeah, in Australia. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>first country and I guess even continent to make the mandatory.

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<v Speaker 1>So go uh ozzy uzzy AZZI good on you. So um.

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<v Speaker 1>Initially the the black box recorders were UM recording on

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape, and then they moved in the strangely enough,

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<v Speaker 1>in the late nineties early two thousands. It wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>UMO eight that they fully switched. Yeah, that the f

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<v Speaker 1>a A mandated in two thousand five. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>list of proposed rules, and one of them was, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of magnetic recorders, which no one uses anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's two thousand five after all, and go to solid

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<v Speaker 1>state digital recorders. Yeah right, uh, no cassettes even um

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<v Speaker 1>and uh they the f A thought about it and

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<v Speaker 1>thought about and thought about and finally said, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do that. One of the big reasons why was

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<v Speaker 1>with magnetic tapes you could just record the last half

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<v Speaker 1>hour of a cockpit conversation. Yeah, it would. It would

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<v Speaker 1>rerecord over itself every thirty minutes, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably that's all you need. Yeah, you want to hope

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<v Speaker 1>that your plane doesn't take thirty minutes to go down

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty bad. Um. But the the big superiority that

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<v Speaker 1>solid state has over that is that the recording time

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<v Speaker 1>is far greater. Yeah, the recording media is smaller, more durable. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're moving parts yeah, and so it can't break

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<v Speaker 1>down as easily. And if one part breaks you can

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<v Speaker 1>still take the solid state memory sticks and reconfigure them

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<v Speaker 1>and get the data off of them. Still. Yeah. They

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<v Speaker 1>cost between ten and fifteen grand each and are usually

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<v Speaker 1>um comes straight from the manufacturer, like they work with

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<v Speaker 1>the airline manufact airplane manufacturers themselves to like preinstall them

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<v Speaker 1>on these planes. Right, Yeah, so you have a black

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<v Speaker 1>box manufacturer who sells them to the airlines, who are

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<v Speaker 1>the airplane manufacturers who sell the airplanes to the airlines.

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<v Speaker 1>With the black boxes are installed, it's like a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the plane, that's right. Um, so we should probably

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<v Speaker 1>explain this now it's been long enough. A black box

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<v Speaker 1>can be one of two things, well, one of three

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<v Speaker 1>things really, Um. It can be the flight data recorder,

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<v Speaker 1>or it can be the cockpit voice recorder, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>Or it can be the crash survivable memory unit. Black

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<v Speaker 1>box refers to all three of those. Yeah, the important thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that really needs to survive the crash

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<v Speaker 1>is the crash survival memory. That's where the data is

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<v Speaker 1>sent and housed. And um, that's the one that's super

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<v Speaker 1>super beefed up to survive like a nuclear war. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>so on any flight, on any commercial flight, you have hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>if not thousands of sensors going on at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are measuring things like airspeed, altitude, uh, cabin pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>cabin temperature, UM, wing trim everything, what are your flaps doing? Yaw? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't just guess at yaw, you gotta measure right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so all of this information is coming into the

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<v Speaker 1>flight computer and plugged into the flight computer is uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>basically it's like an upstream passive eavesdropping unit. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the flight Data Acquisition unit, and it takes all of

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<v Speaker 1>this UM. That's up front, right, that's upfront with the pilots, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And it takes all of this incoming information and it

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<v Speaker 1>records it. So not only is the are the pilots

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<v Speaker 1>and the the ground control getting all this information, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's being recorded as well, UM, and it's being routed

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<v Speaker 1>to the recorders through the Flight Data Acquisition unit. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So also up front in the cockpit you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>at least four microphones and in some newer planes also

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<v Speaker 1>video cameras. Yeah. That's the newest, the latest grade, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which you can't do that on magnetic tape. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Yeah, they have to start drinking vodka

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<v Speaker 1>instead of like brown liquors. What do you mean the pilots,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's water. I'm just having some h duo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the Great Goose or Yeah, I'm joking. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>although pilots have been known to drink here and there

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<v Speaker 1>and they get in trouble. Yeah, they should get in

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<v Speaker 1>big trouble for they should. You're the d D Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're an airline pilot, there's no way around it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the only you shouldn't do is drink and do drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>So um up there to eavesdrop on the pilots, and

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<v Speaker 1>not just the pilots, but also all the sounds going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the cockpit. Are these microphones and they're recording

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<v Speaker 1>everything through the cockpit voice recorder. Yeah, and you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the sounds. That's a big deal. Like not only

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to hear Captain Jim say, holy crap,

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<v Speaker 1>our wing is on fire, but they want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds before that if they hear just some weird

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<v Speaker 1>noise and they're trained to pick up all that ambiance

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<v Speaker 1>sound and experts or trained too to listen out for

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<v Speaker 1>things that you would probably never notice. Is just a

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<v Speaker 1>regular dude, right exactly. And they can sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>hear a ping or a thud or a knock or

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of those things and be like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened. Somebody smoked in the laboratory and kept

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<v Speaker 1>while they were on Their cell phone is loaded, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got again, you've got the cockpit voice recorder,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the flight data recorder, and all of that

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<v Speaker 1>info going out to those two guys is going through

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<v Speaker 1>the flight data acquisition unit, and it's sending the info

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the back of the plane, where

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<v Speaker 1>the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder are located.

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<v Speaker 1>And why is it located in the back, because the

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<v Speaker 1>front of the plane takes up most of the force

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<v Speaker 1>of the impact, and it's far likelier that something placed

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<v Speaker 1>at the rear of the plane, specifically like the tail

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<v Speaker 1>cone or the aft galley ceiling or something way in

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<v Speaker 1>the back, is going to be likelier to survive because

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<v Speaker 1>the rest gets mushed. Yeah, we talked about that in

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<v Speaker 1>our Surviving a Plane Crash episode. And while they won't

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<v Speaker 1>come out and say it out right. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit safer in the back of an airplane because

0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you usually go nose down, and by all accounts, if

0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you drive a plane into a mountain, the captain and

0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the co pilot are going to suffer the worst of it.

0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if you're in the back bathroom having your cigarette,

0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you're shaving like on airplane, you might have a chance

0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to survive. Started like cutting itself. Uh and speaking of mountains, chuck,

0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.400
<v Speaker 1>this is good at places any to put it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some something called plane crash info dot com slash last words,

0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of It's not just this site.

0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of sites that have um recordings from

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<v Speaker 1>black boxes, no thanks from like the last seconds or whatever.

0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.559
<v Speaker 1>And this site also has just like transcription to the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple sentences, and one of them was mountains the

0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.720
<v Speaker 1>last thing. But then there's been there's other ones to like,

0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.280
<v Speaker 1>um Ma, I love you was one the last words

0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of one pilot. Another one was Pete sorry, so I

0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.480
<v Speaker 1>get somebody screwed up. Another one was hang on, what

0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the hell is this? Yeah? And then other ones seem

0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>like they don't realize what's about to happen. This isn't

0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.600
<v Speaker 1>as bad as I thought it would be, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty interesting stuff. Some of it's pretty grim,

0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.160
<v Speaker 1>some of it's super sad. Yeah, it's like not an

0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.640
<v Speaker 1>uplifting things on a read on a Friday afternoon. Oh No,

0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not uplifting, but it's it's definitely interesting. Yeah. I

0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.400
<v Speaker 1>would not recommend reading that before you take a flight. No.

0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.320
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, Umi was traveling UM recently

0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.000
<v Speaker 1>while I was researching this and I met you send

0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.640
<v Speaker 1>it to her. I was like, I can't send her this.

0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.960
<v Speaker 1>She's got a fly back here. That's awful. UM. Alright,

0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.440
<v Speaker 1>so we talked, Uh, let's go ahead and talk about

0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the flight the flight data recorder. UM. You mentioned that

0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:05.400
<v Speaker 1>they're all kinds of um of data being recorded, Like

0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:09.800
<v Speaker 1>up to seven hundred types of data can be recorded. UM.

0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Like they can tell when you just turn a switch on,

0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like it's logged all of a sudden, captain turned on,

0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.560
<v Speaker 1>even interior cabin light switch, you know, that's all recorded.

0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:24.280
<v Speaker 1>And UM. The f a A they require pre two

0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand two planes to have a minimum of eleven and

0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine parameters. If it was built after two thousand

0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:33.360
<v Speaker 1>to um at least eight eight parameters, right, I don't

0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.120
<v Speaker 1>see why they just don't log at all if they can. Well,

0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.600
<v Speaker 1>apparently like that that rule that forced up to eighty

0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.560
<v Speaker 1>eight parameters be recorded like cost the airline industry like

0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.320
<v Speaker 1>three million bucks or something. And that's the reason they're

0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.320
<v Speaker 1>notoriously tight. So that's why they keep fighting it. And

0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the NTSB that's saying like, let's push this along.

0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.160
<v Speaker 1>It's two thousand five, we need to stop using magnetic

0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.760
<v Speaker 1>reel reel right, And the f a A is like,

0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Well, the f A is being post

0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>around by the airline industry. Well scary enough, um, I

0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.440
<v Speaker 1>guess it's a good time to mention this. There was

0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.120
<v Speaker 1>something called the Safe Act, Safe as Asian and Flight

0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Enhancement Act, and it's been up twice and has not

0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.200
<v Speaker 1>passed this legislation either time. And all they're trying to

0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:21.680
<v Speaker 1>do is provide a second recorder and one of them

0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.680
<v Speaker 1>should be deployable in the rear, which makes sense, like

0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.880
<v Speaker 1>if the plane hits an impact, this thing pops off

0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the back of the plane altogether and little costs. Like

0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess so because because they said, uh, the f

0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>A A has a long history of delaying uh much

0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.840
<v Speaker 1>needed upgrades and this equipment, and I guess it's because

0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.200
<v Speaker 1>of price or the airplane lobby. Yeah. When you when

0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.680
<v Speaker 1>your federal agency is actually like a safeguard to protect

0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the finances of the industry, is regulating, that's not good. No,

0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not Why can't everybody just do things right? I

0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.640
<v Speaker 1>know it's frustrating, and money is typically at the root

0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of it all, you know, it always is. Yeah, all right,

0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.840
<v Speaker 1>So we talked a little bit about the testing. I

0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.280
<v Speaker 1>guess we should just talk about what these things are

0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.960
<v Speaker 1>built out of, why they survive that the c S

0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:21.000
<v Speaker 1>m U back in and Roswell New Mexico. No, but

0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:25.160
<v Speaker 1>there are three layers of materials to keep these things safe. Um,

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you got your aluminium housing on the outside of it,

0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and it holds all your memory cards. No, the aluminum

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.360
<v Speaker 1>is inside. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that makes sense.

0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.120
<v Speaker 1>It's the weakest link, you know what I mean, it's

0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.640
<v Speaker 1>on the inside surrounding it's the last stand of protection.

0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess, right, that is, like you said, it's holding

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the memory cards, which are the one thing you really

0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.119
<v Speaker 1>want to survive, the only thing. Yeah, and the people.

0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.160
<v Speaker 1>This is right, right, Yeah, I guess it's a good point.

0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.359
<v Speaker 1>And this is the crash Survivable memory unit, which is

0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.040
<v Speaker 1>actually a part of the flight data recorder and the

0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:04.640
<v Speaker 1>cockpit voice for quorder. Yeah, but it's also this separate

0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.760
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like the Holy See, you know, the

0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Holy of Holies, the Temple within the Temple of Jerusalem. Yeah,

0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like everything else will get mangled and it doesn't matter.

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>But all you need it, like you said, are those

0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.840
<v Speaker 1>memory cards, right, Okay, so so go ahead. There's an

0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.920
<v Speaker 1>aluminum housing around the memory cards, right, and then around

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that you have it insulated with a dry silica one

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.439
<v Speaker 1>inch of it. And that is because a lot of

0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.720
<v Speaker 1>times when planes crash, they catch on fire. Yeah, you

0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.080
<v Speaker 1>want to retard fire. Put a niche of silicus stuff

0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 1>around this, around whatever you want, your hand, your head, sure,

0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.280
<v Speaker 1>just do it. You won't get burned. H And then

0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.960
<v Speaker 1>around that is your outer shell. And it's either stainless

0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.160
<v Speaker 1>steel or titanium. It's about a quarter inch thick. And

0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that's like you know that you're bomb casing and all

0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of that is why you can't build a plane out

0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of all this. It would be too heavy. Yeah, And

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:58.399
<v Speaker 1>so this this one to three punch of a crash

0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 1>survival memory unit. Um, it's a cylinder. Did you say that?

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was implicit. It's just so imagine like

0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.879
<v Speaker 1>a steel box. And you can also go on to

0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>how stuff works and type in um, how black boxes working.

0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.720
<v Speaker 1>It'll bring up images. But imagine like a steel box

0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that forms like an L on its back right, so

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the foot is sticking upward into the air. And then

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>on the part that's along the ground now of the

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 1>L is it's cylinder that's coming up. Looks like it's

0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it's holding some oil or something like. That's an oil cylinder.

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:35.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like a fat squat barrel. Then attached to that

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:41.639
<v Speaker 1>is this little tube another cylinder but longer and shorter

0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.679
<v Speaker 1>that serves as the handle for the whole unit. But

0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it's also a beacon. Yeah, and that's super important. Um.

0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>And actually we'll get into that. But you gotta find

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.200
<v Speaker 1>these things, you know, it does no good if it's

0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.320
<v Speaker 1>hidden behind a tree or at the bottom of the ocean.

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.320
<v Speaker 1>They like to hide, they do. So we talked about

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.159
<v Speaker 1>some of the testing that these things go through and

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty awesome. Um, they do one, two, three, four, five,

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.719
<v Speaker 1>six tests, the first of which is just a basic

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.320
<v Speaker 1>crash impact. They shoot it out of an air cannon

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.399
<v Speaker 1>at thirty four hundred g s into an aluminum honeycomb

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and it smashes it with a force equal to times

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>its own weight. It's just like, I want to see

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>this thing in super SloMo basically, which not only does

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.879
<v Speaker 1>this simulate the impact of a major plane crash, it

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>actually probably overstates the force. I think they overstayed everything. Yeah,

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, and these things survived. They say, okay, good, alright,

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 1>let's take it on to the next test, and the

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.120
<v Speaker 1>flight data recorders like wait what yeah, exactly, And they

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.120
<v Speaker 1>take it onto the pin drop, which I think it's

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 1>funny that they call it the pin drop. Has nothing

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to do with it sound, it's like engineering humor. Yeah.

0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 1>But they take like a five pound weight with a

0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.879
<v Speaker 1>quarter inch the old pin coming out of the end

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of it. It's like a little spike, and they drop

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 1>it from ten ft the spike onto the weakest axis

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 1>of the uh, the black box. It's like a puncture test. Yeah,

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and it nothing happens, so they move it on to

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the next test. Yeah, the static crush, which would be

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:22.959
<v Speaker 1>a good band name uh, five minutes of five thousand

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.359
<v Speaker 1>pounds per square rich pressure applied to the six major

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.960
<v Speaker 1>access points. So it's just a constant, not an impact thing.

0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>But just let me see if I can just crush

0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.720
<v Speaker 1>you over time with brute force. Yeah. It's like a headlock. Yeah,

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the worst headlock you can ever imagine. And then the

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 1>fire test, which they fire a propane fireball with three

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.160
<v Speaker 1>burners at about two thousand degrees fahrenheit for an hour

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and just let it sit there and see if it

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.640
<v Speaker 1>melts or does anything yeah, or explodes or whatever. Yeah,

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it just sits there. Um. And then the planes frequently

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 1>go down. Well, when they go down, they frequently go

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>down out into the ocean or the sea. So your

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>black box has to survive underwater. So they do a

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>deep sea immersion test um, which is like a pressurized

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.800
<v Speaker 1>tank of water for twenty four hours. Uh. And then

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they also do a saltwater submersion test, so this thing

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.639
<v Speaker 1>has to basically sit around in saltwater for thirty days,

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.199
<v Speaker 1>that's right. And finally they will let it soak in

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:27.000
<v Speaker 1>other types of fluids like jet fuel and lubricant and

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>fire extinguisher chemicals and anything else in a plane that

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it might end up submerged in. And if it can

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.880
<v Speaker 1>withstand sitting in jet fuel for a period of time,

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>then you're good to go. Yeah. And then after all

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 1>this they put a little um mortarboard on the the

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>cylinder and send it along its way to be installed

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in an airplane. That's right where it's sadly, will only

0:22:50.960 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>be used if something really bad happens. All right, so

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>your plane is crashed. Yeah, we're both dead, right, but

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>the black box has survived, it lives on what happens

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to it, Well, they have to find it first, um.

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.919
<v Speaker 1>And like we said, these things are tested to make

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>sure that they can withstand deep sea and salt water immersion,

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 1>which they sometimes have to UM And in the event

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that they are going to go into the water, the

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>little handle that has an underwater beacon installed in it

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>actually has this water detector and when water comes in

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>contact with the beacon, it starts to set it off

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and it sends out a pink I think every minute

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 1>or thirty seconds for the next thirty days or something like. Yeah,

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.679
<v Speaker 1>it's one per second for a yeah, um. And this

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.679
<v Speaker 1>ping you couldn't hear it if you were listening for it.

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>But if you were listening through sonar, you would be

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>able to pick it up. And the beacon sends out

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the ping and the people go find the ping and

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>they get it. They can transmit ideally, but it can

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>transmit up to fourteen thousand feet, which is pretty impressive, right, um.

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>And and if you can find the beacon thanks to

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the ping, that's awesome. There have been cases where the

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>black boxes have been found long after the ping stopped.

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Um Air France flight four four seven when I think

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine and went down in the Atlantic, remember

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that one. It was awful, like it just disappeared into

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic and they couldn't find the wreckage for a

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>very long time. I try to block out plane crashes.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was a bad one. It was one

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of the worst, most recent ones. UM But they couldn't

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>find the black box for two years and they finally

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>found it and see order at twelve thousand feet after

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>two years and when they brought the both of the

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>black boxes up, they were able to get all of

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the data off of them. Wow, they were well made.

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Did it was it dumb luck or were they searching

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>for it? Oh, they're searching for it, Okay, even though

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>it stopped pinging, Ley just kept looking. Uh so you

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>do recover it, hopefully, and then you need to analyze

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 1>the data. So they're going to transport it to the

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>h to a lab at the NTSP, the National Transportation

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Safety Board. We should say, the the country that this

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>happens in, or if it's like an international waters the

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 1>country that the airline is registered in is responsible for

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>leading the investigation. Yeah, that makes sense. So in the

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 1>United States would be the NTSP. Okay, yeah, sure, um.

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>And just like any relic you find, if you know

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>about finding undersea items that have been in salt water,

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 1>you want to transport that in its own state that

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you found it, so in its own mess. Yeah, like

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>if it's it's the same thing as if you find

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a piece of sunken treasure. You don't want to bring

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it out and dry it off with a hair dryer.

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 1>You want to keep it submerged in saltwater because that's

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>where it's been living. And that's the sucking treasure pro

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 1>tip from Chuck. I did an article on that. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I know this, um. But yeah, so if

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 1>if they find it in the ocean, they want to

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>transport it in salt water and a cooler to a

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<v Speaker 1>lab where they can really treat it right, give it

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the v I P treatment. Yeah. Um, and if the

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>whole black box is still intact, you can actually just

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>use it's it's computer interface. It's already installed this part

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>of the recorder. Yeah, you can just plug it in

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>and download all the stuff off of it. Yeah, it

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>can be super quick. But oftentimes that stuff, like we said,

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>is mangled and burned away, and so you have to

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>just take the memory sticks and then you know, hook

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>it up to a different machine so you can retrieve

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the data, that's right, which takes a little longer. Yeah,

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>it can take weeks or months when you get the data. Obviously,

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>when you have the data recorder data, you can feed

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that into a computer and create a simulation using a

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.719
<v Speaker 1>model to visualize what the plane was doing based on

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>all those readings from all those different arrays. When you

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>put them all together, it can create a computer model

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>of the plane to show what it was doing at

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the time of the crash. Um The cockpit voice recorder

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>uses a little more of human ingenuity to piece it together,

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and this takes way longer. Yeah. One thing you're gonna

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>have is um a representative from the airline. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a representative from the plane builder because they don't

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>like their planes to go down. Um, there's gonna be ah,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess whatever country or in your version of the

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.239
<v Speaker 1>NTSB is going to be there. And then sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>might have a translator or language specialist, depending on you

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>know what nationality your your pilot was right, because I'm

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 1>not to translate some stuff. And you have people who

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>are trained in deciphering beeps and pings and not box

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>airline cockpits, and they put all this together. It's a

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting job, you know, um. And you you take

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>that information, you put it together with the model, the

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>simulation from the plane, the flight data recorder, and then

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>these days also the flight computers send out warning messages

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like flight four four seven air France. It's sent out

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>like twenty four warning messages, um in the four minutes

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<v Speaker 1>before it crashed. So they had that already on hand,

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>but nothing else. Yes, and then they started to piece

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it together after they went and got the wreckage, which

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>we should say in some cases, when possible, they'll actually

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>piece the entire plane back together to Oh yeah, I

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that Yeah, they'll get like a huge airplane

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>hangar and take all the wreckage and pieces together piece

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>by piece and try to get the plane back together

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to help that to help to help give a complete

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<v Speaker 1>picture of what the heck happened. Did you see that

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the flight the Denzel Washington movie? And though I heard

0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>it was so depressing, it was good. Yeah. Man, they

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.959
<v Speaker 1>filmed that here too in Atlanta. But yeah, it was

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>intense for sure. Okay, I'll check it out and then

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>chuck um, it's not just airplanes where you can find

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>black boxes, buddy, that's right. Uh, they're on trains. Planes

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>already on planes, they're on trains and sort of a

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>newish thing is putting versions of these and cars um

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>either to give you like an insurance break. I think

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you can opt for these sometimes to prove that you're

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a safe driver and get it basically tracks like how

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>fast you go and if you're speeding and taking turns

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>too fast and stuff like that. Yeah, but they're a

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>little controversial, I guess because I think in England you

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>can actually get traffic tickets based on Yeah, I knew

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that was coming. Yeah, but some there's some car manufacturers

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that manufacture basically flight data recorders into their cars already.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily recording like your cockpit conversation or anything

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like that, but it is keeping track of your car.

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like, um, you you know how, like your car

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>will tell you that your tire pressure is low, or

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>your doors open or something like that. There's something that's

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>recording all that stuff, including all of your engine stuff

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and everything else that's part of your car too, which

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>amounts to a black box. Because we left off we

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>said that, you know, the point of having a black

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>box is to figure out what the heck happened. We

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't quite go far enough. Because the point of figuring

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>out what the heck happened it's not just to satisfy curiosity.

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>But if there's a problem that's going to translate to

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>other planes, to a mechanical failure, right, you want to

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>go be able to fix it, or if there's a

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>way to make planes safer in the future, um or

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>prevent an accident. That's the whole point of the black boxes,

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to learn from tragedy. Yeah, they should put the voice

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>recorders in cars for right. Yeah, for d why crash

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>this guy sounds drunk? Pull them over, right? Focus, focus,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you start hearing stuff like that, you're in big trouble.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Like no one else is in the car. You're saying

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that out loud to yourself, but you're arguing about whether

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you should focus. I shouldn't be driving. Oh it's fine, right,

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't be joking about that. That's like super sad. Well,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>this is a pretty pretty sad episode. Yeah, but we

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>should make pretty sad episode suggested by like a four

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>year old. I know what's going on with Cormack. I

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know. We'll have to get to the bottom of that.

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what kind of parenting is going on,

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and that a household. You are great parenting. I'm sure

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything else. I don't you got anything else?

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else. Well, we should like Cormack who

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>This is how we originally got the idea for this episode. Um,

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we should let him play us out to listener mail,

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>let's hear it. If you want to know more about

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Black Boss, you into us this search you are and

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you can have fun at our fun and entertaining home

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>on the web. Stuff you should know dot com. Al Right, Well,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that was just too adorable. That's pretty cute. Maybe we

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>should make that a regular thing. Yeah, so I have

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>an idea. Okay, Um, you guys out there in podcast

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>listener land, if you have a cute kid, you should

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>record said cute kid doing our sign off for you

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, saying if you want to get in touch

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>with me and chuck, tweet to us, join us on Facebook, YadA, YadA, YadA,

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and um, a cute kid that's a fan of the show, Like,

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>don't just train your kid and force them to do

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>something they don't know what they're doing exactly. So send

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>us that email it to us. Email your permission for

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>us to use it. Um, and uh, maybe we'll put

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it in some kind of supercut or whatever. Yeah, include

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>whether or not you want us to say your kid's

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>name or not? Right, all that j all the safety

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>standard safety this is that's very exciting. We haven't had

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>like a call out for anything in a while. Yeah,

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>this could be cool. Nice. Well, okay, so it's a

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>listener male time. Right. Yeah, I'm gonna call this, uh

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>clearing up some kosher things. We've had a great response

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>with our episode on Salt, so thanks for everyone that

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>wrote in so far. Uh slight correction for you guys,

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>on kosher salt, you work correct on its use of

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>drawing blood out of meat as eating blood as against

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Jewish dietary laws. Simply salting the meat, though, will not

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>make it kosher, which is a common misconception. To have

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>a kosher meat, Firstly, you must have a kosher animal,

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>one that choose it's cud and has split hoofs. While

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>pigs have split hooves, they do not chew their cud.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>They are not kosher. Cannot be a scavenger, So no

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>catfish or lobsters. No lobster, I saw that sign, felt,

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's right. Although fish is not considered meat,

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>it is called parv p a r V essentially meaning neutral,

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<v Speaker 1>as in not meat or dairy, which are never eaten together.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And it cannot be a predator. So no hawks or

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>chickens or no chicken hawks are chickens predators? Um, if

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you're a worm of chickens a predator, you know what

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean? All right? Secondly, guys, and this is key,

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<v Speaker 1>the animal must to be killed in a ritual called

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>chick thing by trained ritual s s H E, K

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>H T I n G. The second H through me.

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<v Speaker 1>This process involves a super perfectly sharp, rectangular ended knife

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>that's about twice as long as the particular animal's neck.

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It is forbidden to stab or tear the flesh, hence

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the squared inn and sharpness. In one swift motion, the esophagus, trachea,

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>herotid arteries, and jugular veins are all cut. The animal

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>may not even feel it. Well, who's to say, uh?

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>And we'll pass out and then die in seconds. The

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>blood is then drained from the animal and after butchering,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>it assaulted with kosher salt to draw out the remaining

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>blood and rinsed. You know, I knew a lot of

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that because I read this very very interesting article in

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Harper's Um several months ago, and this guy basically infiltrated

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the meat industry and like Nebraska or something like that,

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and he describes like a osher process of slaughter and

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>how different it is from regular process. But then they

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>have this special guy who's like a rabbi or something

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>who works on this line at the slaughterhouse in in Nebraska.

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>He's like a super specialized dude throat cutter. Yeah, but

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>he uses like this incredibly sharp instrument. It was really good.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>He's a schecktor it's a really really interesting article. I

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 1>can't remember the name of it, but I recommend anybody

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>going and finding it. You know what, maybe you can

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.479
<v Speaker 1>post that in your blog. I have a blog. Yeah,

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you do your blog post about the best things you've

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<v Speaker 1>read this week. Oh yeah, yeah, maybe you should throw

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<v Speaker 1>it in there. All right. So those are the very

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 1>basics of kosher meat, guys. Jewish dietary laws and certification

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>are much too lengthy for an email or a single

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>episode for that matter. It's very convoluted, highly recommended, delightfully

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>witty book called Kosher for the Clueless but Curious by

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Simon Episdorff. I hope this is making words and names

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<v Speaker 1>of I hope I've shed some light on this highly

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<v Speaker 1>complex aspect of Judaism. That's from Michelle and Cedar Park, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Michelle, just near Austin, UH. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>set its straight about something, we are always glad to

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:12.040
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