1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the new I Heart Radio and Coast to 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Coastadium Paranormal Podcast Network. Like us on Facebook, tell your 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: friends and shure us with everyone. This is an exciting 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: new network that will feature podcasts on the paranormal, supernatural, 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Now please enjoy the Darker Side of 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Life with Heidi Hollis. You are listening to the Darker 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast and Paranormal Podcast Network. 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. This is the program where every 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: week you get to listen to people just like yourself 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: who have experienced things out of the ordinary and just 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: want to vent, make a comment, ask questions, and just 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: get a little bit deeper on these very peculiar topics 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: that many of us happen to trip up and into. 15 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: For myself, tripping is all I've ever done into the paranormal, 16 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: and this program bringing these topics that are less spoken 17 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: of on the darker side of life, bringing them into 18 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: the light is what it's all about. No longer keeping 19 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: these types of things in our paranormal closets. So I 20 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: welcome you to go to my main website, which is 21 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis dot com, and be sure to write as 22 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: much as you'd like on your emails so I can 23 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: get a really good understanding on whatever it is that 24 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: you've experienced. So, if it's something dark, exactly what did 25 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: it look like? Was it wearing something? Was something strange 26 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: going on in your life that you think maybe the 27 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,559 Speaker 1: cause of what took place? Oftentimes where we come from, 28 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: what we are made of, really helps round our perspective 29 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: on the paranormal. And when I say paranormal, a lot 30 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: of people are really touchy about that word, and I 31 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: get it because I feel this stuff is rather normal 32 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: as well, but because of some of the classifications and 33 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: the tongue in cheek references that happen in the world. 34 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: Here we sit with this name, but we make it 35 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: what we want of it. And I think we have 36 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: a lot of ground to cover and making some changes. 37 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: But a lot of doors are opening and I'm rather impressed. 38 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: So let's begin sharing even more so we could get 39 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: bigger and better answers. Today. I wanted to have the 40 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about more of my background when it 41 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: comes to the paranormal, because again, is this really paranormal? 42 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: I often am not hesitant to say that I'm Christian, 43 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't understand where that comes from. 44 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Speak of the paranormal and being a Christian in the 45 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: same sentence, that's just like, does that even go together? 46 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: More and more I think people are realizing it really does. 47 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: But back in the day, I recall when no one 48 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: would even say God bless you after you sneezed, almost 49 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: not the folks that were involved in some of the 50 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: UFO groups and paranormal discussion groups that I happen to attend, 51 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: or that I ran myself, and I fell into that 52 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: category at one point. I was raised is a Christian, 53 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, I was made to go to church, 54 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and Church really did give me a good foundation to 55 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: grow from, and I relied upon it, and I knew 56 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things that I was supposed to do 57 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: and not do, and and I felt like it was 58 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot of gut instinct and common sense stuff. And 59 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: it was appreciated though, because I had some sticky situations 60 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: and I am certain my prayers were answered. What got 61 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: me to this point though, When I was in college, 62 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't go to bed early on 63 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: a Saturday night, so they could get up early Sunday 64 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: to go to church. So you kind of fall away 65 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: from a lot of the rules that your parents throw 66 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: on you, and I sure did. I kept up with 67 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: my prayers for the most part. I got to say 68 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: them every night, but I got so bored with them 69 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: it was really underwhelming for me. And then it kind 70 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: of trailed off where I just didn't pray so much. Unfortunately, now, 71 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: while I was in college, I had some very very 72 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: close encounters with what you and everybody now knows to 73 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: be called shadow people. It was later when I experienced 74 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: hat Man. Hat Man was something that my college roommate 75 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: had experienced, and I just thought it was another form 76 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: that shadow people took. Now, in the midst of this 77 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: going on, I had stepped away from what people consider 78 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to be clear and present Christianity in my life. I 79 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: felt that Jesus was someone who kind of did his 80 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: thing and said he'd come back one day, and we're 81 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: supposed to say in Jesus name after our prayers, and 82 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: that was about it, Like he was this historical figure, right. Well, 83 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: I really took pride on picking on my friends, the 84 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: few that did go to church on Sundays and all 85 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: my friends really took great fun at poking at me 86 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: and saying, ah, those alien things that you're into, like oh, 87 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: that's evil and all this stuff, and and I played 88 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: along with it. It's like, yeah, if I stepped footing 89 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: a church now, I'd probably start on fire that type 90 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: of thing. But in all honesty, I believed in God. 91 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: I believe Jesus existed. I just I just took a 92 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: step back. I was seeing things that were right up 93 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: front in my face all the time that spelled out 94 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: to be more active in this world today, and it 95 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: didn't have Jesus face on it. And then there were 96 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: those reports that crept up into the world of Jesus 97 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: showing up on a drip of paint on the walls 98 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: or on a piece of toast or tree trunk or whatever. 99 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: It's just it seemed to be something that always popped up, 100 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: and I just felt like people were witnessing something, but 101 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: I felt that they were possibly mistaken and angelic being 102 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: for Jesus, because I had seen angelic beings, but I 103 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't Jesus. I was pretty confident in that. 104 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I felt rather confident in that. 105 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: So I had a lot of encounters with shadow beings 106 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: and even alien beings that were not of the abducting types. 107 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: So I was dealing with that and writing my first book, 108 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: trying to get things together, and that book was called 109 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: The Secret War The Heavens Speak of the Battle. I 110 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: completed that book in two months time. I felt really 111 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: really urgent in getting that message out there because I 112 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: was warned shadow people and hat Man would be a 113 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: worldwide phenomenon. I did not know at the time that 114 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: anybody had experienced anything even close to what I had 115 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: seen or experienced. So I put that book together and 116 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm editing it. I'm sending it out all over the 117 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: place to other publishers, and at the time, for the 118 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: most part, the only publishers were other authors on the 119 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: paranormal or uphology. So it did its rounds. Let me 120 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: tell you, it went from one end of the country 121 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: too across the sea to be honest, it went to 122 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: England and uh, it was really close to getting published, 123 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: only for people to back up and round and round. 124 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: I went, taking only two months to write this while 125 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: I was a full time student, to four years to 126 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: actually getting it published. So yeah, the topic of shadow 127 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: people leaked out there, that being the title of what 128 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: I had called these Things. But I was told not 129 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: to speak of the contents of the book completely, not directly, 130 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: because the content could end with me if I spoke prematurely. 131 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: It seems strange, but when you think about it, there 132 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: is a lot of truth in that book and it 133 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: serves as the defining point for the entire Shadow People, 134 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: Phenomena and hat Man. And if I had spoken and 135 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: not had that book put into print, I guess, uh, 136 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be where we are today. Would wait. So 137 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: it was fortunate that I paid attention to the instructions given. 138 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: But during that time, very very difficult time. I am 139 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,239 Speaker 1: an occupational therapist and the schooling that I was involved 140 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: in was grueling, very difficult. I had internships, could not work, 141 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: had to rely upon student loans, and the stress level 142 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: was through the roof, and I've got demonic entities going 143 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: through my shared apartment. And just when I thought things 144 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: can't get any more strange or out of the ordinary, 145 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I had an encounter with Jesus. Interesting enough, A lot 146 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: of people wonder how that fit into the mix of things, 147 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: and thought, did that confuse me or something? And actually 148 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: it made things absolutely crystal clear for myself. I know, 149 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: it seems like night and day, aliens, ships flying around, 150 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: black shadowy things creeping around with glowing red eyes, and Jesus, 151 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right afterwards, my friends who did go 152 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: to church on Sundays, they knew something took place because 153 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: all I kept saying after this occurrence was Jesus is 154 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: no joke, stay in church. This is for real. And 155 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: they looked at me like whoa something has happened. And 156 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: I even had a couple of people say, are we 157 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: losing you? What? Where are you going with this? And 158 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: all I could do is be painfully honest, and that's 159 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: something that I can't ever get away from. To be 160 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: painfully honest, to put my name to things, and just 161 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: to be who I am because I don't know how 162 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: else to be. And if you want to make change, 163 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: you stand as you are. You use your real name, 164 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: though my parents had asked me to use a pen 165 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: name at one point, because I was breaking some barriers 166 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: that people just don't do. I had to stay true 167 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: to who I am. And there's a lot of people 168 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: you'd be surprised who come out talking on this who 169 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: are not using their road names. They're using their middle 170 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: names or something made up or just initials. Well, I 171 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: told my dad he didn't have any sons, and Heidi 172 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: House kind of ghost together really well, so I told 173 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: him I'm going to abuse his name to its fullest. 174 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: After the break, I'm going to tell you about some 175 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: of these encounters I've had. You are listening to the 176 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Darker Side of Life with me Heidi House on the 177 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M PARAEMMO 178 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: podcast Network. We'll be right back. Stay right there, there's 179 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: more Heidi coming right up. Hey, folks. 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You're 197 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 198 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: a M Paranormal podcast network, heard on the I Heart 199 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. 200 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to the Darker Side of 201 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: Life with me, Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 202 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal podcast Network. Remember 203 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: to go to my main website, which is Heidi Hollis 204 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: dot com. And if you've experienced anything out of the ordinary, 205 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: be sure to send me all of the details and 206 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: we could go over it here on this program and 207 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: hopefully help shed some light on the darker sides of 208 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: this life. Before the break, I was sharing a little 209 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: bit about how I came to the point that I 210 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: have and being such a forward thinking and speaking Christian 211 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: and standing behind everything that I say, because that's the 212 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: only way I know to be. This story took place 213 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: July while I was in between having gone to work 214 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: and about to go to class. So I came home 215 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: from work. I worked at a local bakery from five 216 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: in the morning till twelve noon, and i'd come home 217 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: and take a nap before i'd go to my class. 218 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: So I told my college roommate if she please turned 219 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: her TV down so I could lay down really quick 220 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: and take a quick nap. Now what happened next. I 221 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: really don't have any words better to describe. But you know, 222 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: when you go to lay down on your bed and 223 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: you kind of get comfortable, you move the blankets around. 224 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Made me move the pillow. And this is the summer day, 225 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: so it was warm outside, and I still, you know, 226 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: I punched the pillow a couple of times, you roll 227 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: around something. So I go to lie down on the 228 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: bed and swing my legs around and and I missed 229 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: the bed. I hit the floor so violently, I mean 230 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: just boom, And I'm like, wow, how did I manage that. 231 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm like getting myself up off the floor, kind of 232 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: dusting myself off and I got to look for the 233 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: bed and it wasn't there any longer. I look and 234 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: I am stunned to find I am standing in front 235 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: of my parents home. Now, a strange thing, strange fact 236 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: from my self. Whenever I have really powerful experiences visual, 237 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't know people would call them visions. Um. I 238 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: always say I'm not a psychic, but I don't know 239 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: what else to call these things, just some kind of 240 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: a vision. They always happened to my parents house, and 241 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a reason for that, but I just 242 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: don't know it. So anyways, I get myself off the floor, 243 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: I realize I'm standing in front of my parents home 244 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: on their front porch, and I'm doing my best to 245 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: try to figure out how on earth I arrived here. 246 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking around. I'm thinking I was going to meet 247 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: with a family friend. His name is Quincy for the record, 248 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I was coming here, and 249 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: I just don't remember how I got here. But okay, 250 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, scenario was as real as I am sitting 251 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: here at my desk talking to you. No doubts I 252 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: was there, And sure enough I looked to my left 253 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: and my parents kind of live out in the country 254 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: and they have this long driveway in and I see 255 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: a man at the end of the driveway and I'm like, 256 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: that's Quincy. Of course, of course, this is why I'm here. 257 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Of course, this is why I'm here. And it didn't 258 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: take long. As soon as he started walking towards me, 259 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: I had this utter feeling of recognition and being as 260 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: silly as I am, I put my face in my 261 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: hands and I'm like, this is not happening. This is 262 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: not happening. That's not who I think it is. I'm 263 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: totally questioning what might be going on right now. And 264 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: before I know it, this man that was so far 265 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the driveway suddenly here in front 266 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: of me, and I've got my hands over my face, 267 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: palming my face, and he says hello, like he's going 268 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: to talk about the weather or something in the next sentence, 269 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm just palming my face. I'm looking down 270 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: like hello, and he says, if you knew who I was, 271 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: you would not hesitate to say it, and I'm just 272 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I get goose bumps every time I think about this. 273 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: I start stuttering, and I'm taking my hands away from 274 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: my eyes and I'm going whoa, whoa, whoa, wha. Well 275 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: you're you're Hassus and he said, yes, I am. Now. 276 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: First off, I don't speak Spanish. I don't know why 277 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: I called him Hassus. And when I took my hands 278 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: away from my face and saw him, he was a 279 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: bit up in the air, and I saw this long 280 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: white robe, it's a little off white. I saw a 281 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: shoulder length hair, and I saw what looked like a 282 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: very bright light behind his head, so his face became 283 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: fully shadowed. And I'm looking and I'm just almost in disbelief, 284 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: but I knew who was there in front of me. 285 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: And he began talking about his life and what he 286 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: did and what he aimed to do and how so 287 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: much needed to be done yet. And me, I'm still 288 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: me going, Heidi, you're really here, You're really here. He's 289 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: really there, You're really here. I'm I'm I'm practically pinching myself. 290 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm pinching myself. I'm looking around at my parents front porch. 291 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm like And then I looked down at the ground 292 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: and I realized, why is the ground so close to me? 293 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: And I exclaimed to myself, like I'm on my knees. 294 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't even remember going on my knees. And Jesus 295 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: got really quiet, and I felt like a kid that 296 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: was caught in class, like not paying attention and and 297 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm touching the ground and I'm like kind of look 298 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: up to him to the right and U and I'm like, oh, 299 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: say something, Heidi, who woo woo woo wo what? And 300 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm stuttering what do you want me to do? And 301 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: he said, first, you need to show us some things. 302 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: And I'm looking around like us. I'm like, I don't 303 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: see anybody else there except for him, And I'm like 304 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: he must be speaking about his father. And um, he said, 305 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: finished writing your book. Do not worry what others say. 306 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: I know that I'll be there to give you the words. 307 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Now that book, I told you it was written quickly 308 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: two months time, my biggest book yet, by the way, 309 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: done under the most pressure while it was working and 310 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: in school and interning. It was rough, but the book 311 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: needed to be done. He then went on to tell 312 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: me about something that I couldn't make out. It was 313 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: like I saw his mouth moving, but I couldn't hear 314 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: any words. And I knew whatever it was, I wasn't 315 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: meant to know it then, but that I would at 316 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: another time. And the peculiar thing is his face was shadowed, 317 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: but I have memories of pieces of his face like that, 318 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: like his mouth, the interesting part about what he told 319 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: me about Don't worry. I'll be there to give you 320 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: the words. While I was in college, I had to 321 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: have straight a's if I wanted to get the degree 322 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: that I wanted, and I was so reluctant to speak 323 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: in front of others that I would not do the 324 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: class presentation and just make sure I had really, really 325 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: high grades on everything else. So when they deducted my 326 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: lack of participating in the presentation, it wouldn't harm me. 327 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: So just so you know, before I come on any 328 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: show or do any kind of interview, I always looked 329 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: to the heavens and I say, you promised me, you 330 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: give me the words, and now I'm holding you to 331 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: it because I have nothing to say. And it's kind 332 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: of true. I really don't. I would be perfectly fine 333 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: being a comic strip artist and just retiring doing that. 334 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: It's all everyone to be growing up. It's a comic 335 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: strip artists. I always tell people that it's all they 336 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be, and I still am you have to 337 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: check out my comics sometime the Landers comic dot com 338 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: or just go to Heidi Hollis dot com. You'll see 339 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: the link there. I enjoy it and to be tasked 340 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: with this and his words just blew me away, blew 341 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: me away, but gladly to take on the challenge. If 342 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: he comes to ask you something, you stand with him. 343 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: And that's what I intended to do. And I still 344 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: do strange things. Strange topics are not all dark, but 345 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: they do sit in the dark, and they remain on 346 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: this darker side of life, these topics that just don't 347 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: see the light of day. So many people just don't 348 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: understand how we can bring our faith with us. And 349 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: at the time I wasn't a believer to the level 350 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: that I am right now. And I'll tell you when 351 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: it came to the Secret War Book that I was 352 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: editing at the time, I had placed in there how 353 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: people were not saying clearly as I mentioned, that they 354 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: were just mistaken and seeing angelic beings that wasn't Jesus. 355 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: I had totally bashed the idea that Jesus were around 356 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: today visiting people. I surely didn't think that he was 357 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: on a piece of toast and here he came in 358 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: the flesh where I had to rewrite a good chunk 359 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: of that book. And I say why I had to 360 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: because he stopped by and he made sure that I 361 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: got things right. I never ever wanted to keep any 362 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: of my experiences in the dark, no matter how dark 363 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: or how bright it got. And I hope that it 364 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: helps inspire people to know that they can bring all 365 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: of who they are into whatever is at the experience today. 366 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: And that's what I do on this show. 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That's Coast to Coast am dot com. 394 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: This is George Nori and you're listening to the new 395 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: y Heart Media and Coast to Coast day m Paranormal 396 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: podcast network heard on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 397 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: or We're ever you find your favorite shows. Welcome back, 398 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: you are listening to the Darker Side of Life with 399 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 400 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. Remember to go to 401 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: my main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com. Send 402 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: me your stories, your questions, your comments, and remember, if 403 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: you'd like to be a special guest on this program, 404 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: you are more than welcome. Just indicate that in your 405 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: email and I will reach out to you. Just before 406 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: the break, I spoke of the encounter that I had 407 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: with Jesus Christ. People often wonder how did somebody like 408 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: myself go from having been raised in a haunted house 409 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: to having witnessed UFOs to having named and defined too 410 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: paranormal phenomena that are the most popular paranormal phenomena probably 411 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: in the world today now two being very adamant and 412 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: outspoken about being Christian now something that I haven't indicated 413 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: a whole lot out there. When it comes to my 414 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: encounters with Jesus, I have had more than I have 415 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: even indicated in my book called Jesus Is No Joke, 416 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: A true story of an unlikely witness who saw Jesus, 417 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: which is myself. Because I was such a huge skeptic 418 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: of people who claim to have seen Jesus again. I 419 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: felt that he had done his thing, and yes he 420 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: was going to come back one day. But to think 421 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: that he was out a about visiting so regularly to people, 422 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: I just thought people were mistaken that they saw an 423 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: angelic being versus it actually being Jesus, because I had 424 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: seen these other beings too, and I knew they weren't Jesus. 425 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: While I was wrong, and I accepted that I was wrong. Now, 426 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: after that initial encounter that I mentioned, everything changed for me. 427 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: Everything changed. All I could say to my friends and 428 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: anybody who would listen as Jesus is no joke. This 429 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: is happening. This is for real. He's here, and he 430 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: wanted me to finish writing my book, The Secret War. 431 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: The heavens speak of the battle. This book spoke of 432 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: an alien war and how shadow people and hat men 433 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: were involved in this war. Do you you're catching this 434 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: full circles all connected. I am having the most incredible 435 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: experience of my life with Jesus Christ, and he's telling me, 436 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: you know that book that you took only two months 437 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: to write, and you've been working and editing and trying 438 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: to get it published all this while four years be 439 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: sure to finish that it's important. Everything shifted in my 440 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: mind and in my heart and my goals. Going from 441 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: having this big space in my mind of where aliens 442 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: fit and crafted shadow people two Jesus and God, and 443 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: this became my weapon against these darker things that I 444 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: had written about, the beings that I wrote of in 445 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: the Secret War book. They spoke of Jesus being who 446 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: he said he was. They even went so far as 447 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: to say that I didn't pray enough. Imagine that I 448 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: didn't pray enough. I was in college, I was busy. 449 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't a PARTI er. I was a serious student, 450 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: but I just had again, I witnessed so much. I 451 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: was so focused on these things that were right in 452 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: my face that I did kind of step away. And 453 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people did during their college years, 454 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: just because freedoms that they never experienced before. Luckily, Jesus 455 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: saw I was making a grave mistake and he helped 456 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: me straighten that out. To now know how big of 457 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: an impact that a college student had made with their 458 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: self published book, and I was bashing the idea that 459 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: Jesus were around today. Look at how much of an 460 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: impression that would have made on people. So I'm very 461 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: fortunate that I wasn't allowed to make that mistake. And 462 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: he dropped by, and he dropped by again and again, 463 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: and to the point that I have had miracle healings 464 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: and apparitions visions of him that just constantly give me 465 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: goose bumps when I think about it. So when people wonder, Wrighty, 466 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 1: you talk about aliens and all these things in the 467 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: same sentence and the same momentum, It's all connected. I 468 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: didn't think fondly back on my childhood sitting on these 469 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: hard wooden church pews as being something delightful. It's not 470 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: something that I really had the best impressions about in 471 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: my life because my family didn't go together to church 472 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: or anything. It wasn't that good feeling. Sure, I love 473 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: Sunday School, but sitting during Mass just seemed to be 474 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: me trying to practice to sit still and not get antsy. 475 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: And I was there with my two sisters who practiced 476 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: how to sit still as well. And I was glad, 477 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: of course, to have the foundation I did for faith, because, 478 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: like I mentioned, it brought me back to the point 479 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: of a lot of rest, assuredness and not being left 480 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: hanging and knowing I had God to rely upon. Now 481 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: this next part, a lot of people don't understand how 482 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: it is that Again, why would I take up this 483 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: flame and continue such a forward march on these odd 484 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: topics that Jesus encounter. That initial one and then the 485 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: others that followed, those were amazing, absolutely life altering, life 486 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: changing experience. It would you believe that a couple of 487 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: years prior to this, that I had an experience that 488 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: really defies any explanation that I could ever come across. 489 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: And I have been interviewing and talking to a lot 490 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: of people in the world of the paranormal and esoteric 491 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: and spiritualism and psychic phenomena out there, and I haven't 492 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: come across anyone who has had this type of experience. 493 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: I was in college and I was talking to a 494 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: friend of mine who also had experienced a lot of 495 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: strange things herself, And so while talking, I had to 496 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: use the ladies room. So I got up from my 497 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: futon and I walked across the room and my vision changed. 498 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: I was no longer in my living room. Instead, I 499 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: was looking at this extraordinary nary scene in outer space. 500 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: I saw what looked like a giant spinning sun that 501 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: moved clockwise, and to the left of it was a 502 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: spinning red light. But in this spinning sun, there were 503 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: trillions upon trillions of lights in it, and every single 504 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: light represented a soul, trillions upon trillions of souls. And 505 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: I was one of those lights. I was in there, 506 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: and I call it like a love suit because it 507 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: was so warm, it was so loving. And when thoughts 508 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: and ideas came together, they passed through this love soup, 509 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: and and every light contributed to the thought as it 510 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: went past them, and it went to the center, and 511 00:36:54,040 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: it became one an idea passed through a something that 512 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: needed to be done here in this world and on 513 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: this planet during this exact time. And and I remember 514 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: casually thinking, and I say casually thinking, I guess that's 515 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: something I could do. You ever see those comedy routines 516 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: where everybody takes a step back in line like she 517 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: said it. And before I knew it, I was being 518 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: ripped out of this love soup and flying through space, 519 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: and with everything that I had in me, I felt 520 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: myself saying, I take it back. But I was on 521 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: my way to get trained on what to do in 522 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: this lifetime in places that I would call schools or 523 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: Crystal City, just things that you don't hear about. But imagine, 524 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: imagine if I was a type of person to keep 525 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: this side of my life on the darker side and 526 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: just let it sit there, I would be a totally 527 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: different person. But when people ask me, why would Jesus 528 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: show up to you? Why would that happen to you? Like, 529 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I don't feel like I've got anybody special. 530 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: But to say that, I don't recall why he might 531 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: have shown up. I think it might have something to 532 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: do with this memory that I had of the spinning light. 533 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: And the spinning light was so familiar to me, this 534 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: whole place, everything about it, it was so familiar. It 535 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: was like, how can I forget this place? How can 536 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: I forget what I'm here for? It's like forgetting my 537 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: first name is Heidi? Like that just seems so ridiculous, 538 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: to forget who I am. You know what was really hard. 539 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm standing in the middle of my living room still 540 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: and I come back to my body with this whole 541 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: understanding about why I'm here, and I go to sit 542 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: down on my foot on and I'm saying, how can 543 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: I forget? How can I forget? How can I forget? 544 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: And my friends like forget what? And I'm like, forget 545 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: who I am and why I've come here. And from 546 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: that point forward, it was really difficult for me to 547 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: want to stay in college and become this best little 548 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: therapist that a person could be. I just didn't want 549 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: to go through that. I knew what I'd come here for, 550 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: and it didn't involve being a therapist. It didn't involve 551 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: being a cartoonist, didn't involve anything. But what it did 552 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: involve was matters of the soul, opening up the eyes 553 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: of people and knowing how to deal with this dark 554 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 1: presence here on this planet, and how to reach our 555 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: full human potential and get our faith back. All of 556 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: this in preparation for the secret war we now find 557 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: ourselves in the middle of. 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You are listening to the Darker 585 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 586 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 587 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: Please remember to go to my main website, which is 588 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis dot com and send me your stories, your comments, 589 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: your questions about anything out of the ordinary and we'll 590 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: flesh it out here on the show. And if you'd 591 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: like to come on this program to discuss and share 592 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: about whatever it is that you've experienced, from the holy 593 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: to the unholy, from aliens, ghosts, shadow people, hat man, 594 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: this show is all about you, about bringing things that 595 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: are less spoken of on the darker side of life 596 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: and bringing it into the light. And also, please feel 597 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: free to subscribe on I Heart Radio to the Darker 598 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: Side of Life. There's so many things that make us 599 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: up for who we are. Isn't it something? I know 600 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: that these are not topics that I generally get the 601 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to speak of on a lot of different radio shows. 602 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: Because I'm the shadow people lady, I'm the hat Man definer. 603 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: I have these two major paranormal phenomena that I put 604 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: out to the world and and people love the spooky stuff. 605 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: They love to get terrified about whatever it is that's 606 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: going bump in the night. But there's some another flip 607 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: side to all of this, and we need to feed 608 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: the more positive than the negative. Sure, I understand the 609 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: curiosity when it comes to the shadow people and the 610 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: hat man phenomenon, because it is so widespread. It's affecting 611 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and it's harming a lot of people. 612 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: It's messing with their souls. It's messing with their sleep, 613 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: it's messing with their families, their consciousness, everything on every level. 614 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: So I get it. One of the first lines that 615 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: I get in a lot of my emails is I 616 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 1: just met the devil. I don't get into that religious stuff, 617 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: but I just met the devil. What do I do 618 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: about it? Am? I hold? You recognize that as the devil? 619 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: That's biblical stuff, that's religious stuff. Why is it so 620 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: hard for us to come to this understanding that having 621 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: an opposing force to something so easily evil? It's okay, 622 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: A I'm Christian. We call that opposing force Jesus. I 623 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: know him to be true and real because of the 624 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: experiences and encounters that I had that I just shared 625 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: with you. I never would have anticipated, even after having 626 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: had the source encounter memory reflection, I would never anticipate 627 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 1: that Jesus would pop up later, never, but he did. 628 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: And I trust my gut, I trust my instincts, I 629 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: trust my heart because when this man Jesus showed up, 630 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: the love hit me so hard. It was beyond moving. 631 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: It's hard to describe to have loved tickles from the 632 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: inside out that just explode into this level that it's 633 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: not human, that's not human. I've had so many people say, well, 634 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: did you question this spirit? And I tell people I 635 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: could have been blind and seeing who it was, because 636 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: every cell in my body screamed, it's Jesus. Not a 637 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: tough one there, so to test him. No, But I 638 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: got tested because soon after I saw him, I had 639 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: another encounter and it was absolutely immediate, was absolutely evil, 640 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: and it tried to get me to denounce or even 641 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: slightly questioned what it was that I experienced when I 642 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: saw Jesus. And let me tell you the creepy crawley 643 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: feeling that hits me when I think about that encounter. 644 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: I try not to give it so much attention because 645 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:50,280 Speaker 1: it was so disturbing. But I learned later that others 646 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: told me about that people who have the opposing encounter 647 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: immediately after having a Jesus encounter. It was even more 648 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 1: so that it was Jesus that I met. I don't 649 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: need that explanation to know who it was that I experienced. 650 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: I know who it was, and it's because of him 651 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: that I have had the nerve to even come out 652 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: to speak about any of these things. So I was 653 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: already done with my book The Secret War when Jesus came. 654 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: I was just editing it, hoping to find a publisher, 655 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: and still having that absolute fear of speaking in the 656 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: public about any of this stuff. But when Jesus told 657 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: me he would give me the words not to worry, 658 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: that is what gave me the courage to go out 659 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: and start doing radio shows, speaking at different conferences and conventions, 660 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: and here I am. One of the big things for 661 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: people who write a book, I don't know, is if 662 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 1: you don't have the nerve to talk about your book, 663 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: you're not going to go very far. And people who 664 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: write books are generally introverts, right, kind of hard to 665 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: be a high energy, boisterous person and have so many 666 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: hours to yourself doing this one thing, tap tap, tapping 667 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: on your computer to express yourself clearly. So here I am. 668 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much an introvert who has that balance of 669 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: knowing when to step out of my shell as well, 670 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: but still not having the nerve to speak up. Though 671 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: I was never shy to talk about my paranormal or 672 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: odd encounters. Not on a stage. That's a whole other 673 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: ball game, a whole other ball game. So yeah, all 674 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: these different things have made me who I am today. Now, 675 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: you as an individual who are sitting there on the 676 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: other side of this podcast listening to my words, going well, 677 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: I've had weird stuff happened to or me too with this, 678 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,959 Speaker 1: or me too with that great step out of your shell, 679 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: Tell at least one other person. It's so important. If 680 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: I was just sitting there on the other side of 681 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: a podcast, yeah, I'd probably tell a couple of people, 682 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: But there's no way I would have reached a global 683 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: audience and warned them about shadow people and hat Man 684 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: and this war that we're in the middle of. No way. 685 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: And I cannot tell you how grateful and humbled I 686 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: am that people trust me to reach out to share 687 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: about their experiences. I do not take it for granted, 688 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: and I keep hoping every time I answer an email 689 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: or give any bit of advice about any of these 690 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: things that I'm doing the right thing. Nobody is perfect 691 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: and nobody has all the answers. This is how and 692 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: where we pull these strings together to weave our stories 693 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: together and find the path and to know and have 694 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: more certainty about what the answer is. Some of the 695 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: stories I hear, especially when it comes to the holy encounters, 696 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: the angelic encounters, that Jesus encounters, even some have merry encounters. 697 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: If you could believe one of those stories with all 698 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: that you are, it could change so much in your world, 699 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: because wow, something like that exists. Then when people are 700 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: met with what they know is the devil, it surely 701 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't be hard for them to know that God is 702 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: real too, and he's here to put his foot in 703 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: the backside of this dark stuff that's disrupting your sleep, 704 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: your dreams, your family, your life, your goals, your mission, 705 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: because that's what they're trying to do. We cannot leave 706 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: the darker side of our experiences, our lives in the 707 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: paranormal closets any longer. We cannot We have to kick 708 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: those doors down. We have to open our minds and 709 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: our mouths equally about what is going on in our lives. 710 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: Hat Man loves to go after people who are gifted. 711 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: More often than not, he will tell you he's the 712 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 1: devil himself. Why is that? Why is he so proud 713 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: to say who he is or to admit that emotion 714 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: that that's who he is. He loves the fear. He 715 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: loves that it weakens people to go on bended knee 716 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: in front of him in terror. And when they just 717 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: can't take the terror anymore and they give up, he'll 718 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: sometimes punch his fist through their chest and rip their 719 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 1: soul out, laughing at them. And then other times he's like, wow, 720 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: this isn't fun anymore. He just leaves you. It's when 721 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: he decides it's time to pick your soul. It's like 722 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: a ripe fruit for him. The opposing force is looking 723 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: to build you up and to help you recognize your 724 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 1: human potential. There's so much more to who we are. 725 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 1: Humans are able to experience things that are beyond today's 726 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: regular belief. Okay, I learned something really cool. I'm not Catholic, 727 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: but I learned something really cool. About saints and superheroes. 728 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: Did you know that the superheroes that fly through the 729 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: sky were based on saints that could levitate. Because things 730 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: like this have been witnessed in history, we had the 731 00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: imagination to come up with comics that could illustrate the possibilities. 732 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 1: The possibilities of humankind are endless, and we just have 733 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: to accept that we have so many layers that we 734 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: need to explore through meditation, prayer, exploration of the body, soul, 735 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: and mind. And when we do that and we look 736 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: at the way that life goes for us. We're born here, 737 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: we have no memories of anything, and we don't know 738 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: what we're actually doing. We try to form a life 739 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: and we go to school, or we don't go to school, 740 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: and we get a job and we have a family. 741 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: Were like, what is this all about? Imagine if we 742 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: knew what it was about, if we could remember a 743 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,240 Speaker 1: prior lifetime, if we could build upon our memories from 744 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: other lifetimes. It's like you lived a thousand years. Death 745 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: was never meant to happen here? What is that? Physical death? 746 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: Is a spiritual death something that we need to explore 747 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: because it darkness is here and it's blocking our path. 748 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: What happens when it's not here? Do we live longer? 749 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: Do we live forever? I say it, we live a 750 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: lot differently and indeed longer, and we get to keep 751 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 1: our memories from prior lifetimes and evolved. Really think about that, 752 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: all right? This has been another episode of the Darker 753 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me Heidi Hollis on the I 754 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 755 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: And we'll catch you next time. Stay safe, everybody. Well, 756 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: if you like this episode of the Darker Side of Life, 757 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: wait till you hear the next one. Thank you for 758 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 759 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: a m para normal Podcast Network.