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Speaker 2: Busting with the boys, Hanging with the bes.

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Speaker 3: we got a big one. Do we want to say

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Speaker 3: it early? I mean, I guess it's already out, Like

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Speaker 3: people are going to see the trailer. It's like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the right Connor Stallions, he's on his he's on

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Speaker 3: As we are as we're speaking. And the guy you

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Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know if it's an opera, but Michigan.

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Speaker 1: The guy's a stud.

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Speaker 4: Dude, he's he's he's a one of a kind. And

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Speaker 4: I am so excited. I think this is his first

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Speaker 4: like long form interview since everything.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and here are the boys? Do we want

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Speaker 3: to tell him? A couple of ball players, A couple

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, did you watch documentary? I did. I just

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Speaker 3: I'll let him speak on that. I'll absolutely let him

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Speaker 3: Brohio is like another super fan of Ohio State, and

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Speaker 3: Guy graduated from Michigan State. So there's like you can

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Speaker 1: That's not him. That's not him.

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Speaker 4: He's not somebody like to me, the cat who said

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Speaker 4: for attention, like it's It's not like Connor Stallion started

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Speaker 4: this whole thing, the manifesto, and thought the end game

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Speaker 3: Right, And it's incredible to I mean, we'll obviously dive

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Speaker 1: Everything in a true marine fashion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait. I want to learn about

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Speaker 4: the details of the manifesto, how it grew over time. Like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the dude is a he's a wizard. He's

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Speaker 3: And there is apparently some underground sign stealer group where

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, Connor Stallions is like the Lance Armstrong of science stealing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Get popped, you get caught all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: And so it's really it's it's such an interesting interviewer

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Speaker 4: Wild and so we'll just boys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is the boy the boys, and I got

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Speaker 1: Literally, was it.

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Speaker 4: Friday when I text you? On Saturday?

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Speaker 3: I was like, hey, I'm gonna try to get Connor.

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Speaker 3: I got on the phone with him and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: How can we get you to Nationville moment right?

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Speaker 3: And He's like, yeah, I'll come for sure. I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: And if you see, like literally for Halloween one year,

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Speaker 4: Was this one hardball? Assuming he was doing Halloween still

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Speaker 4: like dressing up as a Michigan coach like in his twenties.

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Speaker 3: Is maybe maybe no kids just dressed up he is.

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Speaker 3: I think he was born in ninety five, so he's

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Speaker 1: He's twenty nine, okay, twenty nine to bad.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't help the boys out on Saturday. I know,

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Speaker 4: I tell you, I tell you what I just I

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Speaker 4: look around the bus. Everybody's team kind of lost, Like, yeah, Mitch,

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Speaker 4: I guess he's an Ohio State fan. Sure, he's where'd

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Speaker 4: he's like my wife went there, so it's crazy. He's

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Speaker 4: How are you a fan of I love their jerseys.

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Speaker 4: I was watching them when Pat White was there. Everybody watch.

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Speaker 4: talk about how we're all losers and you're not. I know,

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Speaker 4: I know Nebraska did win, and I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 4: I did hate seeing everybody's team lose. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: JP is well. I didn't want to just throw a

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it does.

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Speaker 4: It feels good to unset and undefeated Rutgers team. We

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Speaker 4: we had two blocked punts, which two block punts can't

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Speaker 4: get a field goal to cover. It was ultimately a

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Speaker 4: push because I got him at minus seven. I know

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Speaker 4: some people got him a minus six and a half.

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Speaker 4: Should have paid for that little what do they called

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Speaker 4: a hook? Should have paid, should have pay for the hook.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it does. It feels good. It feels good

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Speaker 4: to be a winner, the sole winner on the bus.

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Speaker 4: I you know, I hate, I hated for everybody else

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Speaker 4: and to lose in the fashion like I mean, Vanderbilt,

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Speaker 4: we're talking what Music City miracle two point zero? That

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Speaker 3: Literally, there was a news article that came out where

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Speaker 3: They're utilizing this kid's creativity because you saw it against

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Speaker 3: And these Vanderbilt boys, man, these band of fucking misfits,

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Speaker 1: These fucking kids just unseated.

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Speaker 3: The one seed and I'm I'm I'm. I keep catching

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Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, boy, the world year.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you had these white offensive linemen and they are

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: First time in school history, program history, defeating the one seed.

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Speaker 4: First time they've beat Alabama since September of nineteen eighty four,

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Speaker 4: and that was in Tuscaloosa. When's the last time they

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Speaker 1: That game was filmed in black and white, the last time.

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Speaker 4: That is one of the biggest upsets in college football history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They were a one double a school, right, But kind

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Speaker 4: It's just it's just wild man.

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Speaker 3: The question I have for the chat is who is

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Speaker 1: Jay Cutler At this point, I Pavi, you.

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Speaker 4: Might have to go Pavia.

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Speaker 1: This kid might have a fucking statue.

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Speaker 3: It might be made out of you know, foam, but

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Speaker 4: Looks like some money.

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Speaker 1: They got some money, They got some money.

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Speaker 4: At this point, Jay Cutler will have like the more

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Speaker 4: what was it like the night where two goal posts

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Speaker 3: How far is the goalpost from Neeland Stadium to the river?

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Speaker 5: It's right next door, right next door. But we took

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Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a lot of effort both ways.

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Speaker 5: The fact that they took it from Vanderbilt Station to

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Speaker 5: that's just the case. Those kids changed the narrative this weekend.

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Speaker 5: They might be nerds, but they got fucking heart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got grit. They're gritty nerds. They have maybe

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Speaker 1: You see that in the far right. Yeah, Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: He's like, fuck yeah, Bama laws, We're still undefeated. And

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Speaker 4: God and also shout out the city too for even

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Speaker 3: They're literally sinking ships, a little many Titanics everywhere throughout

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Speaker 1: Just uh.

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Speaker 4: That's one piece of the insane weekend that college football had.

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Speaker 3: And it was the best. Fire wasn't the best. Michigan lost,

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Speaker 4: That was like Michigan lost, but that was an incredible

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Speaker 3: Not really, Yeah, I know your heart was getting turnover.

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Speaker 4: Two and a half points. Now, it seemed like who,

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, here's what gives me optimism about

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Speaker 3: A fantastic athlete, looks like a guy you would create

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Speaker 3: But he's completely not Yeah, but he's not he's not

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Speaker 4: He throws a pick later.

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Speaker 3: Like all those things are very frustrating, and it is

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Speaker 4: Strengthen our run game. It just even though our offense

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Speaker 3: You can execute the forward pass a little. We can

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Speaker 3: And that's gives me hope. Because the defense not their

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got two first rounders on defense.

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Speaker 3: Graham and then Will Johnson.

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Speaker 4: In that linebacker number fifteen, he's a good player.

441
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Speaker 3: And then, bro, what I tell you about zero third

442
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 3: and eight, which I know you love. Zero on third

443
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: and eight with the game on the line, Will Johnson

444
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,360
Speaker 3: gets a DPI and it's just like, there goes. That's

445
00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 3: the game, that it's over, it's done. I just I

446
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 3: don't love how much we blitz.

447
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't.

448
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 3: I know that's winks thing. That's not Will Johnson. He

449
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 3: plays for the he plays for the Washington Commanders. Now

450
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 3: I don't love how much they blitz. I wish they

451
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: would just play their man, play the zone, throwing a

452
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 3: couple blitzer here and there to keep a monastery rush

453
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 3: for you have the talent, You have the talent to

454
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 3: get to the quarterback with four, and you have guys

455
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Speaker 3: that can cover all around. Yeah, it's like, I know,

456
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: it's tough, it's it's frustrating, but I do. Weirdly, after

457
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 3: that game, I went, okay, like our offense has added

458
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: the throwing portion. We're halfway through the year, and now

459
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 3: we can we can throw the ball a little bit.

460
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Speaker 3: I don't give a shit if it's checkdowns. Brother, we

461
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 3: can fucking do it now.

462
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Speaker 4: You I did watch your video and you're talking about

463
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: what was the record going into Ohio State nine to two.

464
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 4: I feel like you're sleeping on some clubs now, I know,

465
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 4: but listen, and I saw your tweet. Let's focus on

466
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 4: one game at a time. I get it. I'm just

467
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 4: trying to help you out. I know, I know Will

468
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 4: and t us me. I'll get there eventually.

469
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: Like I know this is to me, this is picture perfect.

470
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm up here and you're like, hey, maybe you should

471
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: be down here for a little bit.

472
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Speaker 1: I might know.

473
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 3: Fuck that, I gotta stay up here. Eventually, I'm going

474
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 3: to end up where you are telling me to be.

475
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: But not right now. Yeah, not yet. I'm just saying

476
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Speaker 3: I have because Illinois stuff stuff ball club in Michigan State.

477
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Speaker 4: Dude, it's not a gimme. I mean, Illinois.

478
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: We had Oregon November second, which I might be taking

479
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 3: win too. Yeah, that'll be fun.

480
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Speaker 1: What's that? Yeah?

481
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 4: But Michigan State is garbage.

482
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Speaker 3: Bro G, you didn't have the mic. He said, Michigan

483
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: State look trash against organ. Yeah, Michigan State is fucking garbage.

484
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, dude, we've got a chance. We've

485
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Speaker 3: got a puncher's chance. Well you got a chance.

486
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Speaker 4: Who uh? With the way college football kind of ended

487
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 4: up over the weekend, who do we think is the

488
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Speaker 4: favorite now in the SEC?

489
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Speaker 1: Outside of Texas?

490
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Speaker 3: It's hard to say it's not Vandy, right, Vandy's going

491
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 3: big game hunting.

492
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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.

493
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: They are African Safari dude, Yeah, cool hats, fifty caliber

494
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Speaker 3: rifles and they just took down a big bully.

495
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Speaker 6: I think you would think it would be it's still

496
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Speaker 6: the same three teams, probably Alabama, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee because

497
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Speaker 6: it was a brutal loss. But I personally even high

498
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 6: on Arkansas all year. Sam Pittman, he's got it together.

499
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 6: Bobby Petrino is so elite, and I feel like it

500
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 6: was never that big of news that he went back

501
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Speaker 6: to Arkansas and he's doing this. I think this is

502
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Speaker 6: his first year back with them, and he's already got

503
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Speaker 6: them rolling, and it's like, that's a Arkansas next year.

504
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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a problem.

505
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Speaker 1: Are they a young team? I guess yeah, young.

506
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Speaker 6: As far as young in their culture because they got it.

507
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 6: They got an athletic quarterback right now. But he makes

508
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Speaker 6: so many mistakes. But yeah, Taylor Green, Taylor Green because

509
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 6: he transferred to Yeah. But so I don't think that's

510
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Speaker 6: like a horrible loss for Tennessee, And ultimately it's probably

511
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Speaker 6: gonna come down to Alabama Tennessee in a couple of weeks,

512
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Speaker 6: barring South Carolina somehow takes down a pissed off Alabama

513
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Speaker 6: team next weekend.

514
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Speaker 4: What happened with South Carolina?

515
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Speaker 6: Man similar to Michigan. You we spot him fourteen points

516
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Speaker 6: in like three minutes. The crowd was out of it immediately.

517
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Speaker 6: The the defense played fine after those fourteen points. We

518
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 6: just gave them a short field so many times.

519
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 4: Dylan Stewart just unloading.

520
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Speaker 6: The flip And did you see Jackson darts chirp back? No,

521
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 6: how you fire one hundred rounds and not hit once?

522
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: Oh whole lot of shots.

523
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Speaker 4: What's up with these kids doing the gun celebrations? D

524
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Speaker 4: m V dog But legit though, there there was a

525
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Speaker 4: there was another one where I want to say, I

526
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 4: want to say somebody like lifted lifted their shirt up

527
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: like they had one, like they had one strapped to him.

528
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Speaker 4: Like I don't feel like that was happening. Show your age,

529
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Speaker 4: will But.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: But I like this year thing because I'm crazy one

532
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Speaker 6: of the receivers.

533
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it did. There was in the NFL.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah, one player did in.

535
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: The NFL and he got it was for the Packers.

536
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone got fight. Yeah, no one. Dude was like

537
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Speaker 1: on the sideline.

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Speaker 6: Personally, I loved it. I was because I was watching

539
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Speaker 6: it happen and I was standing. I saw him pull

540
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Speaker 6: the trigger and I turned around, I saw the flag

541
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Speaker 6: and he's o mistandswer behind me.

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Speaker 1: I said, that was sick though.

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Speaker 6: I mean he did. Stir did go crazy. Four tackles

544
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Speaker 6: for a loss in a sack. So he did his thing.

545
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Speaker 6: But the offense, we have no identity which falls on

546
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Speaker 6: one person and it's not a player, and it's not

547
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Speaker 6: our head coach and it's not our DC. You can

548
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Speaker 6: connect the dots.

549
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Speaker 1: On who's last coach?

550
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, over of Weno.

551
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, another bad OC because it seems like the oct

552
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Speaker 4: you guys used to have is doing.

553
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Speaker 1: It all right.

554
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Speaker 6: And Lincoln they had demoted him.

555
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Speaker 4: Oh did they really?

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

557
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Speaker 4: What do you mean? He's not like y'all's O c

558
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Speaker 4: Rule calls it right.

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Speaker 6: I think you'll have another Gadfield is a quarterbacks coach. Yeah,

560
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 6: but he's also like a he's not calling plays.

561
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Speaker 1: I think he is.

562
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Speaker 6: I'd be willing to put some money on this one.

563
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Speaker 4: Look it up.

564
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Speaker 6: Actually, the way y'all played the last two weeks on offense, maybe.

565
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Speaker 4: No, we just Dylant. He missed a couple of throws,

566
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: but he's a rookie. You look, you can't have two

567
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: block punks. He do you see Dylan's brother. You can't

568
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Speaker 4: have two block punchs. Hey you see Dylan's brother. Yeah,

569
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Speaker 4: he's committed to committed in Nebraska. Looks like Jackson Mahomes.

570
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Speaker 4: I see all the headlines. But we got we got

571
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Speaker 4: a little brother. We got a little brother that's a ballplayer.

572
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: No broken wrist stuff over here. We got a family

573
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Speaker 4: of athletes coming into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Bro, Nebraska might be nice for the next six years, could.

575
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Speaker 4: Be you know, I don't know. I did see.

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Speaker 1: That's Rola.

577
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw he threw a bomb in his high

578
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: school game. Yes, dude, that was a beautiful lefty too.

579
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Speaker 6: Well, you are right, by the way, he's a tight

580
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 6: ends coach and O and then it looks like Glenn

581
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Speaker 6: Thomas's co offensive coordinator.

582
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Speaker 1: Right right.

583
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Speaker 4: I do. I think it's a OC by committee type

584
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: of deal. I feel like that's always a tough gig.

585
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 4: What the committee thing? Yeah, whether it's coaches or players,

586
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Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like it. The only

587
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: place that works is.

588
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Speaker 1: Running back running committee.

589
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this kid. What's what's Dylan's brother's name?

590
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? What day?

591
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: Dating Dylan and Dayton?

592
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: Okay, date, that's exciting.

593
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: Jack.

594
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Speaker 4: How are you feeling after Tennessee dropped one against Arkansas?

595
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Speaker 5: It's tough, man, you know. You just have these high

596
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: expectations and you don't think you're gonna drop one to

597
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 5: an unranked SEC opponent. Luckily it's a West team, but

598
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 5: still they controlled the ball the whole game, even though

599
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 5: it was only three to zero at half, and then

600
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: we were up fourteen to three, and then I think

601
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 5: our last five series we got shut out, and then

602
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Speaker 5: I think it was the first time we saw Nico

603
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 5: make a young quarterback air the very last play of

604
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Speaker 5: the game. It's fourth and eight or something, time expires

605
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Speaker 5: and he runs it. It's like, who cares if you

606
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: even throw it? And they pick it off, it's game

607
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 5: over regardless. So that seemed like the first kind of

608
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 5: all Right, he's young and still trying to learn what

609
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 5: these big play moments can be, so that I think

610
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: that is probably where a lot of our fan base saw, like, ah,

611
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 5: he's maybe not quite the elite quarterback that we wanted

612
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 5: to be at this moment. I still think he's an

613
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 5: unbelievable talent and we'll continue to learn. And I'm sure

614
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 5: he was just as upset as anybody else would have been.

615
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's tough. I thought, for once, because the

616
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: Titans had the bye week, I was like, I'm gonna

617
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 5: have stress free football weekend. And I have this theory whenever,

618
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: whenever the Titans win, the Balls will lose, and vice versa.

619
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: When the Balls win, the Titans lose. And I forgot

620
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 5: Titans played on that Monday night game and what they do.

621
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Speaker 5: They won, so I should have known that the Balls

622
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: were gonna come back and fuck my shit up.

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Speaker 1: All weekend.

624
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 5: I didn't watch one snap of NFL football. Yesterday, I

625
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: watched three movies in my room by myself, kind of

626
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: got back to the basics, try to back and it

627
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: was great spooky, uh yeah, but not like a traditional

628
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: I forget this was the thriller that.

629
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Speaker 4: I watched the Arkansas tennis.

630
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would have been the spook. Would just be

631
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 5: watching the replay of that. But we've got a big

632
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: game come up this weekend. Uh, Florida comes to Knoxville.

633
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: And even though Florida is in a row for you guys,

634
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 5: yeah Arkansas. Oh yeah, yeah, you're saying starting this week, absolutely,

635
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 5: and Florida's been you know, abysmal this year. But when

636
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 5: it comes to rivalry, you threw everything out the windows, right,

637
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: and it's yeah, and Florida they have the opportunity to

638
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 5: end our season before we even get to Alabama. And

639
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: I know that that would be like them getting a

640
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: like their season. That would be a full win for them.

641
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if they don't win another regular by

642
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 5: ruining our season. We opened up as a twenty and

643
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: a half point favor last week, which scares me. I

644
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 5: do think we can handle it because historically the balls

645
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: are so bad in the Swamp, but it's a different

646
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: story typically when they come Knoxville, so it's a seven

647
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: pm game. Again, we have yet to have a game

648
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 5: that's We had night games every single game this year,

649
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: so I don't know. And we and we are a

650
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 5: franchise that's been noon games, noon games. Like my first

651
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 5: two years at Tennessee, I think we had one night

652
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: game for the first two years I was there, so

653
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: it was always noon kickoff. So I'm a little nervous,

654
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 5: but it's always fun. Florida and Tennessee is such a

655
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 5: fun matchup and it's it's really gritty, hard nos football.

656
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 5: But if we drop that game, yeah, next week I

657
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: will be I'll be.

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00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: Really you want to hear my theory, Yeah.

659
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Speaker 4: The curse of you not buying back into the trees

660
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Speaker 4: are whispering that the curse is leaked over into college football.

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Speaker 4: Jack McPherson controls a little bit of what's happening.

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Speaker 5: I think I want you to admit that you want

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Speaker 5: me dead, you want me to kill myself. I just

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Speaker 5: want you to say it.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't don't.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this we obviously don't want you to kill yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't, But you sold.

668
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Speaker 4: You said you would kill yourself a maliki and that

669
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Speaker 4: was hilarious in the moment, and then when it came

670
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Speaker 4: real the chickens came home to roost, it was kind

671
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Speaker 4: of like, hey, would like for you to kill yourself?

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Speaker 1: What do you want me to do myself?

673
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 5: Like get close to death, like get like.

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Speaker 3: Take it back, take it back to middle school horizontal cuts.

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Speaker 3: If we posty brainstorm, quick brainstorm of what you could

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Speaker 3: do to get.

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Speaker 5: The jujuar gonna say, if we keep posting clips about suicide,

678
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 5: eventually people will not think it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, But until then, we'll keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: Jack, what's gonna happen if you guys lose the Florida

681
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Speaker 1: this week?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta at least think about it, like, Okay,

683
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta pay the gods something. Maybe if

684
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: you Yeah, if you lose the If you lose the

685
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Speaker 4: Florida this week, you should shave your stash in the head.

686
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do both. I would do the mustache.

687
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Speaker 1: WHOA really, what if you lose the Floorida this week?

688
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: Shave your head? No, I'm not shaving my head.

689
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: No, we're not talking about if they lose to somebody.

690
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Speaker 3: He's gotta right or wrong now, Sock.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I don't want the curse this. I don't

692
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: want the curse to live. I hate living in this world.

693
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Speaker 4: I truly do. Yeah, we don't want you guys to lose.

694
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: I want you guys to win this week. I want

695
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: who's Alabama play suck. I would like for it to

696
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: be one lost teams when we go to Tennessee. But Jack,

697
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Speaker 4: I'm saying, I don't want. I. I just don't want

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Speaker 4: the curse to leak in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, neither do I.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how we we've swapped from NFL to college.

701
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Speaker 5: I feel like there's got to be a line in

702
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Speaker 5: the sand. Like I was prepared for the Titans to

703
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: just be horrible because of me because I had the vault.

704
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: And then they won and you're like, Okay, maybe that

705
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: stuff isn't real.

706
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 5: And then it leaked over in my theory where that

707
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Speaker 5: Tennessee valls and the Titans can't win them the same weekend.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I feel all right, So what I'm just raising

709
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: just so we can put this to bed? What is

710
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Speaker 1: it going to be?

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Speaker 5: Because I'm willing to do something. I don't know if

712
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 5: I want to shave my head if we lose, I

713
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 5: would shave my mustache.

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Speaker 1: How about this? How about this?

715
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Speaker 4: We'll let people We'll let people leave comments on what

716
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Speaker 4: Jack should do this week? Yes, and maybe we take

717
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Speaker 4: We'll choose out of the two most.

718
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Speaker 5: Like the ones, Okay, throup the comments, all right, and

719
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Speaker 5: none can involve me killing myself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're doing. That's off the deal, like you're the

721
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Speaker 4: one who said that. But we do want that.

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Speaker 1: Guys. If we lose to Florida, I will I'm not yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

723
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Speaker 5: Give me a call if we lose the Florida.

724
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know where we go from here?

725
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Speaker 4: Where we go from here?

726
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Speaker 1: Where? Yeah?

727
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Speaker 4: Should we go? Should we read it?

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742
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Speaker 1: NFL.

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Speaker 3: NFL first game of the year played in London.

746
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Speaker 1: Yes, Vikings, bro, I've been on the Vikings for a

747
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: few weeks now you have.

748
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Speaker 4: Maybe it was like the Niners game. What was that

749
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: Week two? Week three? Yeah, but the Vikings are for real.

750
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Speaker 1: Man, I know.

751
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: And the cool thing is, obviously everyone's been talking about

752
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: Sam Donald and how he's been able to throw it

753
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: all over the yard, but this is the week like

754
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: they came out and they scored fairly quickly and went

755
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: up on the Jets big time. But after that the

756
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: offense was kind of non existent. The Jets really started

757
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: to figure themselves out. That defense is unreal. And Baldy

758
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: you ever watched his clips, He's always breaking down the

759
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: offitsive line clips. He showed the New York Jets doing

760
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: a basic open side inside zone play and there's a

761
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Baker blitz which for those of you listening Bakers when

762
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: the linebacker will go through the B gap. You hear Baker,

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Speaker 3: I believe it's acts for a gap.

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Speaker 4: Change of wardings, but yeah, you're going through.

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Speaker 3: So basically what happens in that situation is the two

766
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: d tackles will slant away from the blitz and just

767
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: watching the Jets offensive line, dude do a horrible job

768
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Speaker 3: of picking that up. The left guard buries his face

769
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Speaker 3: into the defensive tackle and doesn't get out of it,

770
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: and then they just get a TfL. The Minnesota Vikings

771
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: are playing on all cylinders right now.

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00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: They are crushing in that pick six. Impressive right, just

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Speaker 4: dropping out last second now going into that too, like

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Speaker 4: uh Flores, I think him and he's only played against

775
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: Aaron once and he's on one against Aaron, but he's

776
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: always got something dialed.

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Speaker 3: Up, right And Aaron obviously when you're watching the uh

778
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: the TV copy you you hear the commentators, we're talking, Hey, Aaron,

779
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: he's gonna be forty one in a couple of months,

780
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Speaker 3: Like this is kind of what he is now. He

781
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: can't get away as much as possible. He rolls his

782
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: ankle during the game, and so it's like and man

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00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 3: battle line play is terrible.

784
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Speaker 4: Online coach, that's Keith still still Keith Card Now I'm

785
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: my my Twitter's kind of I got some people commenting,

786
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: we don't have to go any further than what Taylor

787
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: I wanna set already. Yeah, like it's been out there

788
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Speaker 4: for quite a minute. A minute and the players, Yeah,

789
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Speaker 4: and you're you're missing like your best I mean, I

790
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: don't know the aster room talked about him, but arguably

791
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: your best whole lineman and Morgan Moses he's been out.

792
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: Timon Smith is their left tackle aged a Yeah, hat

794
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: has has a history of injuries, but still like a

795
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame tackle.

796
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Speaker 4: They've got do.

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00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 3: They've just got to figure out a way to just

798
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 3: just block as a unit. It's always just one guy

799
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Speaker 3: and no one clip I talked about with Baldy.

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Speaker 4: It's like this.

801
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 3: The the left guard needs to know when you're when

802
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: you're singling to that backer that runs to the B gap.

803
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: Once you see the defense tackle, you need to plan

804
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: off that right leg and know that something's coming, something

805
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: is coming that you need to You're gonna have to block.

806
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: So it's a reaction thing you just have. You can't

807
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: be burying your face and blocks like that.

808
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Speaker 4: You like that, Yeah, And I love the Baldi breakdowns,

809
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: like the Baldie breakdowns, or it's where you want to

810
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: close the curtains, get out the lotion and just have

811
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Speaker 4: excited abouteuse.

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Speaker 1: He just loves football, I know.

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Speaker 3: And the thing too, is like the play he was showing,

814
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: it's like the most basic. It's you run that play

815
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: in high school. There's not most there's not a bunch

816
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: of gadgets going on around it. It's truly like it

817
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: literally would be called fourteen Wanda or fifteen wanda. It's

818
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 3: a left side play. It's open side. You have your

819
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 3: basic blocking scheams. You can only run it versus certain numbers.

820
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: You have the box, you have the look, the safeties

821
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: are far away. You don't have too many guys.

822
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Speaker 4: It's a count game.

823
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: And so center and guard are gonna go to the

824
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: front side backer. And then they had a two I

825
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: and then a head up six technique on the tight

826
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Speaker 3: end or I'm sorry, a five technique.

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Speaker 4: And when Taylor's talking to you're talking inside shade of

828
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 4: the guard, inside shade the tackle.

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Speaker 3: So in that situation, the hard the hard block is

830
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Speaker 3: for the tackle on the opposite side. The right tackle

831
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Speaker 3: because he has to he's in a C block to

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00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: the other backer who's not blitzing. Once he sees that

833
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: defensive end go away, he now needs to find himself

834
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Speaker 3: into the B gap to help the guard to get

835
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: up to that linebacker. So it's all it's a reaction game.

836
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: And sometimes people love speed off the ball, people love

837
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: like a low pad level and all those things with

838
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: offensive line, but and those type of situations, it's like

839
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: you need to have a reaction step and then figure

840
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: out where were going and then put put some power

841
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: behind it. But it's just they're burying their face, they're

842
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: bearing their face. It feels like just grabbing the soap

843
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: a little too hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, grabbing the bird a little too hard to

845
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Speaker 1: kill the bird. So it's it's interesting, that is not

846
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the blitz.

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00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 4: That is not the blae exchange.

848
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, scrape exchange, which is also a very Hey that's

849
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: a nice basic blitz to stop the run. Yeah, I

850
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: mean that is essentially the play. No, it's not the

851
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: play because that's a that's a that's a that's a

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00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: three four. So it's different, but it's not that big

853
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: of a deal anyway. Long story short vikings look great,

854
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: Vikings look good and and Jets. Jets aren't having a

855
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: hard time with their blocking concepts on on on simple things,

856
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: which is which is tough.

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Speaker 4: And I don't blame it. I don't blame the players.

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00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: It doesn't look good for the Jets.

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Speaker 6: Dude, quick Stefan Gilmour, he had that pick at the

860
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Speaker 6: end of the game. He's had an interception on Aaron Rodgers,

861
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Speaker 6: Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 4: I mean, thirty four years old Gilmour is that's awesome.

863
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Speaker 4: One of the best corners to do it. I feel

864
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: like he's kind of like gone away a little bit too.

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Speaker 6: Like he had yeah, because he was like Panthers Cowboys.

866
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Speaker 4: Because he had the defensive the year for the Colts,

867
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Speaker 4: right for the Patriots, for the.

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Speaker 3: Patriots right then he went to the Colts. From there,

869
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 3: then he was the Panthers and it was all over

870
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: the place. So he had a couple of years in

871
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: hiding and now he's he's still showing up, showing that

872
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 3: he's him.

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Speaker 4: I love that. Yeah, that's crazy. Could you imagine another

874
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 4: contender in the NFC the Commanders, Bro, Bro, you were

875
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Speaker 4: you called it? When are they going to figure? When

876
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Speaker 4: are they going to figure out Jaden Daniels. I mean, yeah,

877
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: defense played a good game. Now, if you bring up

878
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: their schedule, they haven't like played anybody that tough yet,

879
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: so it'll be I know it. But all I was

880
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: going to say to that is even when you're like,

881
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: you're playing these these teams now Bengals arguably in the dumps, uh,

882
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: the brown with Burrow throwing five touchdowns. I know, I know,

883
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying at that time where they kind of they

884
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: kind of squeaked out a win at Sincy and then

885
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: they go and demolish the Cardinals. They demolished the Browns.

886
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: Like they're handling teams that are perceived to be not

887
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 4: that good this year. They're handling their business. So even

888
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: if you want to chalk it up to hey, they

889
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 4: kind of have a week schedule right now, which again,

890
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: it is the National Football League. Anything can happen. But man,

891
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: you've got a rookie quarterback that's dialed in like that

892
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: and firing on all cylinders. You're kind of the question,

893
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: I guess is like when's he going to hit the

894
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 4: rookie wall because he's having just I mean, he's having

895
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 4: it like a a career year, in his first year

896
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 4: in the league. It's crazy, it really is. Yea and

897
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 4: everybody in the district right now, I know has fired

898
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 4: the fuck up massive game this weekend against the Ravens.

899
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: The Ravens had a dicey one against the Bengals over

900
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: the weekend. Joe Burrow, he did. He threw for five

901
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 4: five tuddies. We got to get or Lamar, I mean Lamar.

902
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: You saw that play at the end of the game

903
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 4: of Lamar where he's escaping in through that tuddy. I

904
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that fumble that he had.

905
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: Well play is this? Can I see that play?

906
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Which one the fumble?

907
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, they were going, they were they were going,

908
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: they were in ot and they were I always say

909
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 4: drive and they had the ball. They're driving and Lamar

910
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 4: has a you know, has a mistake, fumbles the ball.

911
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: Bengals get it in Raven's territory. They can't really move it.

912
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: They're trying to run the ball a little bit. Miss

913
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: a field goal, yeah, bad snap, miss the field goal.

914
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: This one right here, bad snap to Lamar. Laurn's a

915
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: fumbling it just brewed. Yeah, yeah, my fault.

916
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Bad bad exchange.

917
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: He kind of takes his eyes to the defense right before,

918
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, lose his focus drops the ball. Bengals

919
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: get it in enemy territory. It's like it almost seems

920
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: like McPherson like he's gonna be able to knock this

921
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: one in no problem. They have a bad uh uh

922
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: center holder exchange for the for the field goal. They

923
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: missed the field goal and freaking uh Darry buss Off.

924
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: How long was that run? Fifty seven yard? Or bro

925
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: still got him? Man? Yeah, still fucking got it. The

926
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: King got a hundred, ten thousand yards and pass with

927
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry ten thousand yards and one hundred touchdowns. Like

928
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 4: I want to say, he's seventh on the old time

929
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: list right now in one hundred and twenty five games.

930
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: Like he's he I mean, he's a legend, He's a

931
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: Leegend's gonna be All of Famer.

932
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: He's up.

933
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: He was before this season started. Yeah, now you kind

934
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: of cement it like when you're hitting the when you're

935
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: hitting the things like the milestones like ten thousand yards,

936
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 4: one hundred touchdowns, and he's looking the way he does

937
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 4: with these big runs and kind of pulling away from guys. Yeah,

938
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: it's cool to see it's also gonna see Derek Havan' success.

939
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: With the Red.

940
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: It is man and you just want him to just

941
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: keep it going for as long as possible. Can't you

942
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: get eleven thousand how many how many guys have eleven

943
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: thousand yards?

944
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: Like four or five? Uh two? People are okay? Four

945
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: or five?

946
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: Sherman is now switched up to four or five. It's

947
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: it's just awesome to see man, to see his success.

948
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: It's I did not think it would come this quick

949
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: with the Ravens. I thought they're gonna have a more

950
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: difficult time figuring out a way for him to.

951
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay, And there's.

952
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Twenty one guys eleven thousand yards five four or five?

953
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 4: Four or five.

954
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: Did you see Stefan Diggs give the side eye to

955
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: Josh Allen after the game?

956
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? I did. To me, there's a part of me

957
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: too that thinks people are really looking into it. I

958
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: think they they don't have like the greatest relationship. And

959
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: they just kind of congratulated each other after the game,

960
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 4: and somebody just got that still shot of him kind

961
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: of coming out of it. Yeah, it's still fun to

962
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: look at it.

963
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: It's still fun to.

964
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 4: Down a little bit. Yeah, Yeah, it's still fun to

965
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: live in that world that he's like pissed off that

966
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: he just had to tap him up, Like yeah, bitch,

967
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 4: all right, bitch. I feel like, hey, good game.

968
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: I think Josh has handled it well. You see the

969
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: press conferences and there's a couple of things they took

970
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: quotes and they kind of ran with it a little

971
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: too much, lost possession.

972
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 4: I was, I was bouncing back between that game was

973
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: going on. You had the Colts game going on. That

974
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: one was close.

975
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 6: Josh's stat line was insanely bad. It's like nine for thirty.

976
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: The Yikes got knocked out.

977
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 4: He had knocked out in the game.

978
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: Someone was telling me that earlier that he was like

979
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: literally stiff on the ground for a second and they

980
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: put him back in.

981
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: He hit some of the smelling salts and was like,

982
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: oh yeah, you get them salts. You know, Josh Like,

983
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: if they put him back in, it's not because they're

984
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: like you seem good to go ahead and go back in,

985
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: you know Josh's and they're like, hey, I'm fucking fine,

986
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: like going back in.

987
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: This just a wyoming boy, dude, a kid that just

988
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: all grit.

989
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, all grit, trying to bring farmers back to life,

990
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: fighting for the agriculture, no doubt. Yeah, fighting for it.

991
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: And yeah that's like that's one of those gray areas

992
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: that people argue like the team's gotta save him from himself,

993
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 4: and you'll you'll hear all that, but ultimately, you know,

994
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: Josh was like, hey, I'm fine, I'm good to go.

995
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: I'm passing all the tests, like get me back out

996
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 4: in the game.

997
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: Nico that that ball on CJ. Stroud had to Nico

998
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: collins Man. CJ really has touch on the ball like that.

999
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, CJ. Yeah, I hated that Nico went out too

1000
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 4: with the hamstring injury. I got him on my fantasy team.

1001
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, how's your face? Your fantasy team sounds like

1002
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: it's in a blender.

1003
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: It was I now I've popped out a couple wins. Now,

1004
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 4: I just I just beat the ship out of Coop

1005
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: in our fantasy Nice.

1006
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Nice.

1007
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: No, I'm four and one.

1008
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: I'm willing to do whatever punishment y'all want.

1009
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: That's the problem was the season gets going. These the

1010
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: losers like myself, I'm thinking.

1011
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 6: Like I thought it was dye your hair blonde.

1012
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: I'll die my fucking hair blonde. I'm not gonna I

1013
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 4: know this, I'm not gonna get last. I've been trying

1014
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: to work the waiver wire.

1015
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: Hey, looky, I feel like it would take like four

1016
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: guys to also do it with me.

1017
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: Just to die my hair blonde. You've been wanting to

1018
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 4: dye your hair blonde.

1019
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: I've kind of wanted to. I've always kind of wanted

1020
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: to dye my hair, but never have done it.

1021
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: You like made like a like a brochure or a

1022
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: book of blonde hairstyles, right that you did?

1023
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 7: No?

1024
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: Miss Tanna?

1025
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: Oh, Miss Tanna probably did because I was telling her

1026
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: that that silver look is kind of cool. But then

1027
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 3: she was telling me all the processes of Miss Tanna,

1028
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: my mother in law.

1029
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 4: She did hair.

1030
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: She was like a Salon Salon easta Salon Easter Salona

1031
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: body who.

1032
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 6: Used to have their die hair, hair dyed blow on.

1033
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 6: Max Crosby. You what you're saying to bow Nicks? Yeah, no, bro,

1034
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 6: both bo Nicks was calling something that though I heard

1035
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 6: I saw that clip.

1036
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's like you're not talking loud enough.

1037
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 6: He's like, speak up, bro, they don't know ship. And

1038
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 6: then bo Nicks and Sean Payton had a little.

1039
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: Oh theyd dye his hair not bad.

1040
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's way too pale to go blonde like that.

1041
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Max is way too pale to go blonde like that.

1042
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: I love Max. I love Max, Love him to death.

1043
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 6: He's bawling though, he's he's kinda he's kind of he's playing, he's.

1044
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 4: Got he's balding. I was like, oh, Ship, for real,

1045
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 4: he's kind of you, but he kind of he's kind

1046
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: of cutting up. It's not like he's all blonde. He's

1047
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: kind of trimmed it. Like we got the insanct justin Timberlake.

1048
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: Look up right now. I used to rock that look

1049
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 4: back in middle school. The blonde tips up top, Yeah,

1050
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: frost frost boys.

1051
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had that in elementary school. My mom always

1052
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: had me with the Caesar cut and the frost tips

1053
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: at the front.

1054
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, get out the hair, the little thing on then

1055
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: you pull your hair through.

1056
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1057
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: No Ship thirty forty five minutes then I had that

1058
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: was real corner rows. Like I'd never be able to

1059
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: pull that off, would you talking about?

1060
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Yes you could?

1061
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: No, bro, you did it? Yeah that looks insane. I

1062
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: used I used to rock the corner rolls on like

1063
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: two K when I create a player for real.

1064
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never did a trip with your family to

1065
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: Mexico and like we're on the beach and got it

1066
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: done real quick.

1067
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: No, no, no, our family never went to Mexico. Our

1068
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: our our vacations. We were at the BoNT Pond. Yeah,

1069
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: I ain't going my first vacation until I was like

1070
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 4: an adult for real. Yeah, yeah, we were never able

1071
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 4: to do family vacations. Man, shout out the grind of

1072
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: the yeah. Or it would be like, you know, baseball

1073
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: tournaments on the weekends type of thing. Yeah, that would

1074
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 4: kind of be the fun you get try to get

1075
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: the hotel people to leave the pool open a little

1076
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: bit later. As a young buck, we'd be throwing in.

1077
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: You'd be throwing in all the chairs and stuff. Let

1078
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: it sink at the bottom for real. Yeah, we want

1079
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: state one year and they left it open for us

1080
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 4: all night long. But you won state in baseball?

1081
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah in baseball?

1082
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you never won in football. Well, no, it's

1083
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: just our JFL is just our little community. You have

1084
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: six games a year, oh for real? Yeah, yeah, we

1085
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 4: hoisted the trophy a couple of times. Heisman Winter no ship, Yeah,

1086
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: well you really were him? I mean yeah, I was

1087
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 4: nice as a as a young kid. I mean in football.

1088
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 4: I can't imagine community center. You didn't play football until

1089
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 4: high school, right.

1090
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: I played one year in third grade that was a

1091
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: corner locked down.

1092
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 6: I was a kid.

1093
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: I was a kid in third grade.

1094
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 4: Bro, that's you know good, Just put him at corner

1095
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: out there.

1096
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1097
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: I was literally just fast. I would I would be

1098
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 3: the kid that like everyone's taking.

1099
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: It real serious.

1100
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: But I was like picking the grass on the ground,

1101
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: like sitting criscross applesaus is a place going on.

1102
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: My dad be like, yo, Taylor, yeah you want to

1103
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: know why you're at corner. Yeah. That next year I

1104
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: played quarterback. You were nice.

1105
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: I quit before this and started. We did we did

1106
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: a tackling drill. We have to run straight and then

1107
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: they have like ticket, it's an angle drill. And then

1108
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 3: kids were getting tackled and I was like, fuck this

1109
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 3: that looks terrible. I got too scared. I was so

1110
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: scared of contact. Yeah, the ale tackle drill terrified.

1111
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Dude.

1112
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: Even baseball, same thing, Like anytime I pitch can be

1113
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 3: like remotely close step outside the box.

1114
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 6: This is random, But I love those videos when of

1115
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 6: youth football practice, when the moms tackle there.

1116
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Dude, yea, I saw that the Oklahoma drill with that kid.

1117
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: There's a couple of kids are laying their moms out

1118
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: and vice versa versa.

1119
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 6: You can tell the moms that have a bad kid.

1120
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 6: They're like they lined up.

1121
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: I wish my mom would have tried that shit. Due

1122
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: I would have buried her, probably not for five minutes

1123
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 4: and be like, yeah, so I saw the clip where

1124
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: the kid beat his mom and he just started gridding

1125
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 4: no ship, yeah, no, oh.

1126
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: His ass. I mean we knew what was gonna happen

1127
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: before that one even started.

1128
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: That's just the area you just don't get anymore. Man,

1129
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: that's the bowl in the ring aer right there.

1130
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, d emasculating. I mean, these moms are even

1131
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: moving in time.

1132
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: So this drill right here, they line this drill up,

1133
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: and just I would get to go against the kids

1134
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: who they wanted to quit. Yeah, I can't.

1135
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 3: Imagine you separate a defensive here offense over here, and

1136
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: kids are doing the one, two, three wheels right there,

1137
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: and may you go ahead, Yeah, you go ahead. Just

1138
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: let everybody try not to match up.

1139
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: My coach would be like, all right, wheel's up, and

1140
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: then he pointed to somebody like Coop and be like Coop,

1141
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 4: you're up. Maybe try to get him to quit.

1142
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: They would say that to you.

1143
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, but I was so brainwashed, like we

1144
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: I had the little sea on my chest as a

1145
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: young buck, and if you had to see on your chest,

1146
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: you were allowed to just take off at any moment. Oh,

1147
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: hang on on a kid, if they're just walking back

1148
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 4: to line, like I would just get to go and

1149
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: sprint and just level the kid without him looking.

1150
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1151
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 6: Ball team did that in high school. Yes, our best

1152
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 6: player would just lay people out that were walking. It

1153
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 6: was like they did not deserve that.

1154
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, itzynuts, I've never even heard of that walking back.

1155
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 4: I could take off at any moment, just go lay

1156
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: somebody out. How often did you do it? I would

1157
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: do it as much as possible.

1158
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody, Now, if you started running and they saw

1159
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: you coming, they started running, would you stop?

1160
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: No?

1161
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: I mean I would keep going till the job's done.

1162
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: The job Yeah, Will is a fucking menace of authority,

1163
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: got drunk with power.

1164
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: I would have hated you. I would have hated you.

1165
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine bulling the ring. Just you'd have somebody

1166
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 4: standing in the middle and people get pointed out.

1167
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 6: Did you ever go and like in the Oklahoma drew

1168
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 6: where they're like hey will and then somebody got.

1169
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: Really no, I mean I was, I was than everybody.

1170
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: What about Nebraska? Like those here was probably like a

1171
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: Nebraska drill, which was the same thing.

1172
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think I lost to a full

1173
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 4: back and like an Oklahoma drill like that to where

1174
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 4: you're on the board, but nothing like that.

1175
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 3: Is to me, the dumbest drill to have a board

1176
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: in between both of your feet.

1177
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1178
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: We used to do that in like three point stances

1179
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: with the defensive linemen and it would be like I'd

1180
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: be in a defensive line stance just like this is

1181
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: doing nothing, but you gotta win.

1182
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it.

1183
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 4: The adrenaline nerves and everything that you have when you're

1184
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: just in front of the entire team going one on

1185
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: one bro something like that.

1186
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: My freshman year of college, there was a walk on guy,

1187
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: Eric Gunderson. He was three hundred and forty pounds and

1188
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: I was two fifty. He were both freshmen. They did

1189
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: the board drill and he and I went and he

1190
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: just walked me back and they're like again because it

1191
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: was like one of those things where they're probably trying

1192
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: to get me to do well. So this kid would

1193
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: quit type of thing, and then maybe dude three times.

1194
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: On the third time, his helmet came off and.

1195
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: I swung on him.

1196
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 3: I swaw, dude, I hit him like right here, like

1197
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: kind of hit his nose and his cheek and he

1198
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: gets hit and slowly just looks back at me. I'm like,

1199
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is gonna fucking kill me. Later,

1200
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: I like go up to apologize to him, and I'm like, hey,

1201
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: you get one free bee on me before like this

1202
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: is all done between us. So my senior year, we

1203
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: were literally roommates in our house and it's like, I

1204
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: think right before the season started and there's like we're

1205
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: having a party at the house and you know, well,

1206
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: your boy was kind of on back.

1207
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: Then, right, so I like, see Dunnison, he's.

1208
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: Got a bunch of heal And we were joking about

1209
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: like as we like became seniors, it was like, hey, brother,

1210
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: you only have a couple more months. And I was like,

1211
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, I could have left my junior year. He

1212
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: was like I was thought it was a man around here,

1213
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: and I'm like, guandhy you can you can anytime you wanted.

1214
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 4: You get a free when you get a free one.

1215
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: So that night at the house, you know, I'm doing

1216
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: my extracurriculars, and I'm like.

1217
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 4: Gandy, it's time.

1218
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: It's time. He fucking smokes me.

1219
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,799
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1220
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: didn't sleep me luckily.

1221
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: But it hurts so bad. Four years, four years, any like.

1222
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: We obviously made up. We were boys, all that stuff.

1223
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,080
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1224
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Speaker 4: getting close to land? For those of you who are

1248
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 4: going to be in Oregon this weekend, the boys will

1249
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 4: be Ohio State at Oregon.

1250
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: Do we know what we're gonna be g I think

1251
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this one.

1252
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 4: We're gonna be at Rennie's Landing, Landing.

1253
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be popping in twelve pm.

1254
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: On Saturday on Saturday. Ready for this night game. I

1255
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: mean it is gonna be maybe the biggest game they've

1256
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 4: hosted two verse three versus a massive one. Big ten

1257
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 4: implications on the line like this could be like the

1258
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1259
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: Let's go Ducks. Yeah, oh yeah, let's go. It's gonna

1260
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: be wild. Yeah.

1261
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: Also, we will be getting their Friday. We will be

1262
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: gaining their Friday. If you could tell us, please what

1263
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: haunted house we should go to near Eugene. The boys

1264
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: are gonna go to a haunted house keeping this spooktober

1265
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: vibes alive. It's gonna be incredible, the Spooktober.

1266
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: I feel like we've we've gotten off to an incredible start,

1267
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: the best, starting with the boy's history.

1268
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1269
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: And for those who are wanting to embrace the Spook,

1270
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: we do have merch. Spootober merch. This is my favorite shirt.

1271
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 4: Spooky season got the orange, you got the you got

1272
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: the uh you know if you're Spootober debts. The brain

1273
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 4: is a hard one there. The amster died on the wheel.

1274
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: We got that, dude. We need to make hats like

1275
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: this too, Yeah, just saying tried hats.

1276
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 4: They wouldn't let us make hats. What Yeah, but if

1277
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: people can embrace the spook and call for hats and.

1278
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: We do whatever we want, we do whatever we want

1279
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: to drop a hat in the chat everyone has.

1280
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: As everyone has a master. Yeah, but it's been awesome.

1281
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: We we we went to a pumpkin patch. We went

1282
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 4: to Gentry's farm. No for shout outs to Gentry's Farm.

1283
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, like crazy time to do that

1284
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: with how hot it was.

1285
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 6: I know.

1286
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: The thought process was, ultimately, we're gonna be gone the

1287
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: next couple of weeks because we got Oregon and then

1288
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 4: we're going to the Tennessee game. So we would have

1289
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 4: been waiting till the end of the month to do it.

1290
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: So we just went ahead and made the call. I mean,

1291
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: Charlie had the call. She's pregnant. I'm kind of like

1292
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: lean on her, Hey, if you want to go do

1293
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 4: this because I told her, I'm like, it is still

1294
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: fucking hot. Yeah, thank god it is not anymore. The

1295
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 4: weather has finally been to our will and it feels

1296
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: like it's October. But yeah, you're right, like it was

1297
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 4: mid eighties, miserable, sweaty, but it was fun. We had

1298
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 4: a great time. There's a lot of shade rude played

1299
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: on all the playground stuff. We went on a little

1300
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: hay ride. We bought pumpkins. Our stairs now outside our

1301
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 4: porch is just decorated with pumpkins like the Compton family.

1302
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 4: You'd be proud of your boy. I love that the

1303
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 4: whole family is embracing the spook. That fires me up.

1304
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. Just and literally JP showed me right

1305
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: outside his door. One stole a pumpkin. That's all you

1306
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: need is add just something that reminds you that.

1307
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: Oh, these people are appreciating the holiday season. Yeah, it

1308
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be created. Like my house is ridiculous.

1309
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: It makes no sense.

1310
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: We have that many decorations.

1311
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: You could charge for tickets at your house. You dropped

1312
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: me off on Thursday. You said the same.

1313
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: Look at all the pumpkins going up in the trees

1314
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: and everything else, the scenes that are laid out, with

1315
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: all the skeletons.

1316
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to charge tickets in this place.

1317
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: I know I relate this.

1318
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: My one goal is to when my kids describe me

1319
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: when I'm gone, is that their dad took holidays way

1320
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: too serious.

1321
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that should be on your gravestone. Calladay is

1322
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 4: way too serious. Love spoot over, love spoot over, especially

1323
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 4: spoot over. But yeah, man, Also, do you want to

1324
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 4: tell about the fan calling for locker room? Yeah, we'd

1325
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 4: love to talk about the fan calling. We have a

1326
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 4: special guest parlay call in this week. Amanda Vance. That's

1327
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: the the blonde. That's what a man is not not

1328
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: walking back. This is Mason Rudolph who DMed her during

1329
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 4: the game. Apparently found a way to DM or maybe

1330
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: I think so? How wild would that be? Just a

1331
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 4: halftime DM bios number one handicapper in the game. You

1332
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: love her Instagram, go check her out. But she's gonna

1333
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: be doing the fan calling this week for the Locker Room.

1334
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 4: If you want to submit and have a che it's

1335
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: an opportunity to be featured on the Locker Room. You

1336
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: take a video, you build your favorite parlay. Again, we've

1337
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 4: had some good callings. You build your favorite parlay and

1338
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 4: you submit your video to info at BUSINWTV dot com.

1339
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: But we have a special calling this week.

1340
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Speaker 3: Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. I can't wait for this weekend, dude,

1341
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: I know it's gonna be amazing. We got a big

1342
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: guest we're doing on Thursday at Chicago, then after that

1343
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: right to Oregon next week. Two boys to Nashville. Boys

1344
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: are getting after it, Alabama versus Tennessee. It's gonna be

1345
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: a great time. And Jelly Roll's album drops yes Friday. Yeah,

1346
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: let give a round of applause for Jilly Roll Hume,

1347
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: the Boy, the Hommie.

1348
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: His biggest one yet.

1349
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: I think he's I saw him tweet It's the most

1350
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 4: music he's ever put out. That's awesome. He's really and

1351
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 4: he's been on a bunch of features that has just

1352
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 4: been killing it over and over and over again. Everywhere

1353
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 4: you go, everywhere you turn, when you turn on the TV.

1354
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: You're usually seeing Jilly Roll's face. He is taking this

1355
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: moment and he's making the most out of it. Could

1356
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: be more happy for Jolly Roll.

1357
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: He had a Yeah, he had a picture your boy too,

1358
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: who's that Travis Barker.

1359
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, with ip Astrona for a second, but that and

1360
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: that didn't hit.

1361
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were doing backflips together.

1362
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: No shit, dude, with all your find Now he's with MGK,

1363
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: Travis Barker. Now like the photo MGK, Travis Barker and

1364
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: Jelly it's crazy he didn't face I mean that. Yeah,

1365
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: he should have facetied me for that, because that is

1366
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: that's the music I love right there. Yeah, all on

1367
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 3: one photo. I am all about everything there. By the way,

1368
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: Travis Barker skin routine like.

1369
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: The kids age.

1370
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Speaker 4: Good for him? Yeah, incredible. All right, boys, our Halloween,

1371
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: our Halloween episode leave. We're trying to figure out what

1372
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna be wearing on the show for the Halloween episode.

1373
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 4: We would love to give you guys the power to

1374
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 4: tell us in the comments what you would like us

1375
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 4: to dress up as for Halloween, and that's what Taylor

1376
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: and I will do. I don't know if it's gonna

1377
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 4: be the most like comment or the most like comments

1378
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 4: or whatever, but either way, help us figure out what

1379
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 4: are attires gonna be, what costume we're gonna wear, and

1380
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 4: the boy will be representing on the Halloween episode.

1381
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: Hamster died and that's it, dude.

1382
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: Let's get to the Connor Stallions. He's going to be

1383
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: here in about twenty minutes. We'll knock that out. I

1384
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: hope you guys love the episode. Enjoy it, big hugs,

1385
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: tiny kisses. But before we get into that episode, let's

1386
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: talk about a little something and that it's called game Time.

1387
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

1388
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: Football season is here and we can't wait to get

1389
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 3: out some games this fall. With the help of game Time,

1390
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports, you know how

1391
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 3: much we love game time and now with their new

1392
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: with their brand new game Time Picks feature, they are

1393
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: making it even easier to get to a game. Game

1394
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 3: Time Picks filters out the fluff to show you only

1395
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 3: incredible deals on great seats, so you don't have to

1396
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: waste time searching through thousands of tickets literally upcoming upcoming

1397
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: events boys, Oregon, Ohio State, you want to go to

1398
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: that game? If they're not sold already, You're gonna hit

1399
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: that game Time app. It's gonna sift through all the

1400
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: bs for you so you can get the best tickets

1401
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: for the best price. It's incredible. Up your chosen event

1402
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 3: and turn on the QT pick setting at the top

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01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 3: of your screen, or browse the best local game Time

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Speaker 3: Pick Dealer picks deals near you on your game Time

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1406
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: So what are you waiting for?

1407
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: I've already talked about dude, Oregon versus House State this week.

1408
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome. Download the game Time app today

1409
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: and use code busting to easily score great deals with

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Speaker 3: new game Time Picks.

1411
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: What is game time? All right?

1412
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 4: We rolling?

1413
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, he.

1414
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 4: Gets a drill. He knows the drill. Get it close

1415
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 4: to the mouth, don't be scared. Yeah, uh a little bit.

1416
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: We were talking Connor stillience, Let's give a round plus

1417
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 3: con Science on the bus.

1418
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: Michigan man.

1419
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: We were talking before about a little little football, a

1420
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 3: little everything. But let me give you my thought of

1421
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: who you are. Okay, and we can we can go

1422
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: from there because I want to get in your Michigan

1423
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: fandom to start. Every major program has a top five

1424
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: percent of fans that are true psychos when it comes

1425
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: to their program, or how state has it, Michigan has,

1426
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: at Alabama, Georgia, all these Nebraska, all of them have

1427
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: these these crazy fans that live and die with their program.

1428
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: You are one of the five percent that actually made

1429
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: a difference in their program besides cheering on Saturdays. Is

1430
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 3: that Is that a fair way to put you?

1431
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you.

1432
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 4: Take a lot of pride in that.

1433
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: I guess would Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1434
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 3: And that wasn't me saying crazy as like a shah

1435
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: or anything like that. It's just like all these big

1436
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: programs have these guys that like love, love Michigan, love Nebraska,

1437
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: like love all those things, and every one of those

1438
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: fans think to themselves, how can I help the school

1439
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 3: become better. And you literally had the traits and the

1440
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 3: abilities with your military background and your ability to break

1441
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: down all of these things that you watch in your

1442
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: documentary that you truly were able to help a team. Yeah,

1443
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: we gotta feel amazing.

1444
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember exactly what game it was,

1445
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 1: but I remember the first time walking into the Big

1446
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: House through section fourteen at season tickets row row eighty three,

1447
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: see twenty six and twenty seven, walking in probably three

1448
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: four years old, just kind of told myself like, yeah,

1449
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be down there one day.

1450
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: No way, and just kind of figured out your thing.

1451
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: I did with that end, stay mind.

1452
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 4: I'm so excited that you're on because again, like I,

1453
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 4: we got to play, We got to play at our schools,

1454
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: and there comes a time for everybody where that you

1455
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: have to retire, whether it's in middle school, high school, college, NFL, whoever.

1456
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: If you get to play a long time, that's awesome.

1457
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 4: But you understanding and figuring out like, Okay, I wasn't

1458
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 4: able to make it at this D one level. How

1459
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: can I carve out my own path a different route?

1460
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 4: And I feel like you're somebody who's been able to

1461
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 4: accomplish that. Yep, is that fair to say?

1462
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that's why, you know, everyone goes to

1463
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: the nail, Okay, I mean to serve their country. But everyone,

1464
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, everyone has a different reason. And I just

1465
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: kind of well, every major successful head coach, legendary head

1466
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: coach you're talking like Bud Wilkinson at Oklahoma, Osborne, John Wooden,

1467
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich, Coach k Woody, Hayes, bo schen Beckler, all

1468
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: had one thing in county, served in the military four

1469
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: to five years at least. So okay, they got to

1470
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: be onto something right, right. So and this is going

1471
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: through your brain, Well, yeah, this is early high school.

1472
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean I always knew I wanted to coach at Michigan,

1473
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: and then when it came time to you know, okay,

1474
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: what exactly is the route? You know? I applied to me.

1475
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: I applied to two schools, Michigan and the Naval Academy,

1476
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: got accepted the Michigan, got waitlisted at the Naval Academy.

1477
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: So in my mind like okay, whatever, going to mission.

1478
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: And then got the call And it was actually about

1479
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: two weeks before last day of school senior year. I

1480
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: get a call Annapolis Maryland. I mean, I'm I'm in

1481
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: the middle of class. Well I better answer this one.

1482
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: So I answer it and said, whoever it is the

1483
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: Missions and the Naval Academy, do you have a minute.

1484
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of class. So I'm like, uh,

1485
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: let me call you back. So I call him back

1486
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: and said, oh, you've been accepted. So they actually they said,

1487
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: but we need a response right now because we've got

1488
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: to let the people behind you know. So in my mind,

1489
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: I just went back to all those coaches and I'm like, well,

1490
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta do it. And so I said,

1491
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: all right, yep, I'm in. And then I call my

1492
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: parents and they work at the They teach at the

1493
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: middle school right down the road, so they, oh, come over,

1494
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. So I get there and they're like,

1495
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: so what are you thinking. I'm like, oh, I already

1496
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: told them, yeah no, and then just went from there.

1497
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 4: And you when did you decide you wanted to be

1498
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 4: like a head coach? Was like your your three years old.

1499
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 4: You didn't even care to play. You're like, I want

1500
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 4: to be.

1501
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: Uh you know, yeah I played. I played, but like

1502
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: I always so senior year. My dad's the eighth grade.

1503
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: It was the eighth grade football coach. His record against

1504
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: our rivals was like twenty one to zero to one

1505
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: in his career and uh yeah yeah. So I mean

1506
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for them to build a statue at

1507
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: scripts middle school. But so my senior year, I didn't play.

1508
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: I just played. I always played basketball. And then I

1509
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: helped coach eighth grade football with him kind of like

1510
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: as de facto defensive coordinator. Yeah, and you know, just

1511
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: kind of went from there, and that was my first

1512
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: actual experience like truly coaching. And then student coach at

1513
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: the Naval Academy. Yeah, what was the action?

1514
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: Sorry, so go ahead. I was just to say.

1515
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: And then the documentary you kind of you say, you

1516
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: go into the coach's office and you're like, hey, I

1517
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: want to do this, and you're like all right, cool,

1518
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: go down, You're you're in. Was it that simple as

1519
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 3: far as being having a student coach?

1520
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: So I got my foot in the door doing just video,

1521
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, like the you know film and practice and

1522
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: all that games. And so that was freshman year and

1523
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: then spring going into sophomore year. I mean I was

1524
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: always at the football facilities and the director of football

1525
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: apps just asked, you know, hey, you're here all the time,

1526
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: you want to you want to come upstairs and help out.

1527
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: So for about a week or two I was helping

1528
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: out with operations, and then I mean, I was like

1529
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: eighteenth time, didn't know any better. I just walked right

1530
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: into the head coach's office. So, hey, Coachnam, Hey Hunnor,

1531
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he knew my name. Yeah, and

1532
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: he's awesome, one of the best people I've ever met.

1533
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: And I go, hey, coach, could I a student coach?

1534
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: And he think he stands up, he thinks about it,

1535
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: and he goes up follow me, brings me right into

1536
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: uh coach Shasper, the offensive coordinator's office, and says, hey, coach,

1537
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: here's your new student coach. Oh.

1538
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 4: Thanks, that's it.

1539
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: And then from the random any responsibility I had just

1540
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: treated it in my mind like I'm the head coach

1541
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: at Michigan right. Like it's like a psychology, you know,

1542
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: psychological thing where you know, you know, it's vision, like you,

1543
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: when you visualize you are what you're trying to be,

1544
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: then you convince your brain that you are right, and

1545
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: then all your habits are like that. So everything I did,

1546
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the first thing I did at Michigan, you know,

1547
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: kind of skipping ahead here, but the first thing, the

1548
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: first assignment I had at Michigan was doing a wind

1549
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: report special teams. Every stadium, you know, every stadium we

1550
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: play in, we need a wind report. Yeah, I said, okay,

1551
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: do you have like a templative one that Yeah, I

1552
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know where where we would I've

1553
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: seen one before, but you know, just kind of, you know,

1554
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: start it and then I'll kind of redirect you if

1555
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: it's you know, not what we're thinking. And so all right,

1556
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: so I just became like a weatherman for a month.

1557
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: You're thinking of five days, probably about five days. And

1558
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: I give him this like eighteen page packet and it

1559
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: had like every kickoff, where it landed, and what the

1560
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: wind was that day in every stadium they played in

1561
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: that year, and I think they were like, what the

1562
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: heck is this?

1563
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 4: Like what have we got here? He's like, I'm gonna

1564
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: be the best goddamn weather man they've ever seen it,

1565
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: ever see.

1566
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: And then it was the next task, whatever it was,

1567
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,839
Speaker 1: you know, just I'm gonna be the best at whatever

1568
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: it is.

1569
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 4: There's the epitome of giving one hundred and at all times. Yeah. Absolutely,

1570
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 4: When when did it start to like, you're at the

1571
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 4: Naval Academy, When did you start to like, how did

1572
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 4: you create your first opportunity outside of the Naval Academy.

1573
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: So sophomore year, spring break, I go to I go

1574
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: back home to Michigan and Coach Arba just got the

1575
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: job and they're doing this coaches clinic and Coach Partris

1576
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: at the time was the recruiting coordinator, so he ran

1577
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: the clinic and I went with some of my high

1578
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: school coaches and my dad, and I think like Mike

1579
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: Martz or someone big was speaking, so all eyes around him,

1580
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: and Mike Mike Martin, Mike.

1581
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 4: Martz, he's like the he was like a head coach

1582
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 4: for the Rams.

1583
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was speaking, all eyes are on him.

1584
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to get my foot in the door.

1585
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: So I go down and talk to Coach Partridge and

1586
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: basically it was like, you know, hey, I'm here for

1587
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: a week. This was like Friday night or Saturday morning,

1588
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: like spring break just started, right, so you get the

1589
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: next nine days or whatever. And so I go and

1590
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: introduce myself and tell him, Hey, I'm here on spring break.

1591
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm here for the week. I'd love to help out.

1592
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: You know, told him my name dropped a couple of

1593
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: people that I knew. He knew at Navies as a

1594
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: student coach with them, and you know, he probably thought, one,

1595
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: why the heck are you and Ann Arbor on spring break? Yeah?

1596
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: And then too, you know, military Naval Academy student coaching. Okay,

1597
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: we'll find something for you to do. And yeah, I

1598
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: just ran with it from there. And I think the

1599
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: wind report was that off season that was like the

1600
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: first in my mind, big project I had or whatever.

1601
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: And is there was there? Something?

1602
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 4: Was there? Something too? Leaving after your sophomore year, you

1603
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because you're obviously taking a you're

1604
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 4: taking a chance going and diving into this next opportunity

1605
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 4: with Michigan.

1606
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: Well, I was doing both. So I was. I was

1607
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: a student at Navy. I did my four years at

1608
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: the Naval cabin and then my fifth year I was

1609
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: a temporary assigned duty. It's like a grad assistant with

1610
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: the football team because I don't have a post grad school, right,

1611
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: So I student coach. So I wasn't at every single

1612
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: Michigan game. Yeah, during my four years at Navy, because

1613
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: I was at every Navy game. Okay, we had a

1614
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: bye week or spring break or in the summer and

1615
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: I had time to go home or whatever. That's when

1616
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: I would help out. And then when I got so,

1617
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: I graduated in seventeen, go to uh you know, so

1618
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: now I'm a Marine Corps officer. Do maybe five or

1619
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: six months as like a GA with the Navy football team,

1620
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: and then I go do my Marine Corps training and

1621
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: I think the station in California at that point when

1622
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm no longer with Navy football, that's when I was

1623
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: then flying back and forth helping out Michigan. And then

1624
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: I was at like pretty much every game. So that

1625
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: started in like twenty eighteen, and.

1626
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 4: You were helping the coaching staff. Yeah, during that time

1627
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 4: as well.

1628
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: So it started when I was at Camp La June

1629
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: in North Carolina for a few months training and then

1630
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: station in California. So you know, they kind of touched

1631
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,440
Speaker 1: down in the documentary. I would when I was in California,

1632
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: I would live, well, I started, I started sleeping on

1633
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: my couch and I rented out all the rooms in

1634
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: my house to make money and you know, say money

1635
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: to back and forth and all that.

1636
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 8: And and then I realized, well, I live like fifty five

1637
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 8: minutes north of Camp Pendleton, So why am I driving

1638
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 8: back and forth just to sleep on my couch.

1639
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sleep in my car. So I slept

1640
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: at the I five South rest stop right outside Camp

1641
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: Pendleton every day for like two years, no shit, yep,

1642
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: every day saved two hours, like an hour driving north,

1643
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 1: an hour driving south. That's gas, that's everything. You're saving money,

1644
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: you're saving time. So that's two more hours of watching film.

1645
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 4: Dude, I love it. It's like, yeah, it makes sense.

1646
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 4: But at the same time, very very few people are

1647
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 4: willing to sacrifice.

1648
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 3: Right, And it's also like people like oh, he was

1649
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 3: such a big fan of Michigan, like anybody who wants

1650
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 3: to be successful, Like, these are the kind of sacrifices.

1651
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 4: You should make in the beginning of the game. Yeah,

1652
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 4: to get these things going.

1653
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're flying, you're flying back and forth. I'm

1654
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: flying back and forth. So yeah, say I get back

1655
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: from arbor wherever we're playing. And so yeah, Sunday night,

1656
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: get back, lax, drive down, pick up my laundry which

1657
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: I put in over the weekend, and then drive down,

1658
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: stay at the rest up, wake up, you know, five am, whatever,

1659
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: workout on base, work work ends, I'm watching film, go

1660
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: to the rest, stop sleep, do the same thing for

1661
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: you know, four days. And then Friday after work, drive

1662
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 1: up to my house in Orange County, do my laundry,

1663
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: drive up to lax Fly to take the Red Eyes.

1664
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: There's always a So twenty twenty, twenty nineteen, and twenty

1665
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: twenty one because COVID, you know, I couldn't go to games.

1666
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: So twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one, every single game

1667
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:46,520
Speaker 1: was off, no sleep.

1668
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 4: No shit.

1669
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, took the Red Eye land wherever we are. It's

1670
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: like sometimes, you know, we'd be playing like Illinois, so

1671
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: I'd have to fly into Indianapolis, rent a car, drive

1672
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: over to Illinois, drive back, and then I would hit

1673
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: the can the City Chiefs game on my way back

1674
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: to my boy. Frank was his first Chiefs and so

1675
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: Frank Clark. Yeah. So my it's at twenty nineteen. We

1676
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: lost Alabama and the Citrus Bowl, and the season ends,

1677
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: and I'm already kind of going to Chiefs games whenever

1678
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: it's convenient. I I'm my flight back and so Michigan

1679
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: football is done now for the season. And so I'm thinking, like, well,

1680
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: what do I do with myself right outside of the

1681
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: Marine Corps? What do I do? So I just started

1682
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: breaking down film for Frank and interesting, Yeah.

1683
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen, you got the right before two teams that

1684
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: played in the AC Championship that there.

1685
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: Were two teams that played in the FC Championship that year.

1686
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 4: And Frank, first off, that's we're doing good so far.

1687
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 4: He texted me, He's like, have this clip ready because

1688
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 4: I got a fun store with Taylor for this.

1689
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: That's the fun story that you're like, Yeah, You're like,

1690
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, hold on.

1691
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 4: Go back, Let's break this. We're gonna if we're gonna

1692
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 4: do this, let's break down now one up time? Can

1693
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 4: he say what his.

1694
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: Okay?

1695
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: I want to point out that Frank told me at

1696
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 3: the ben of game I'm gonna get a sack on you.

1697
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 3: Right now, it's the fourth quarter of a minute twenty eight,

1698
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: we're down by eleven. He has not had a sack.

1699
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 3: I don't think he's even had a pressure. So maybe

1700
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 3: your scouting port wasn't that great.

1701
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: But we'll get into this anyway. Can't be with the

1702
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: half spin.

1703
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: We see it. We handle it now. I want you

1704
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:34,520
Speaker 3: to pause it.

1705
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 4: No, no, keep going.

1706
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 3: Now, okay, that is nine yards from the line of scrimmage.

1707
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 3: We gotta step up, we gotta step up, we gotta

1708
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 3: step up, right right, boys, you gotta step up in

1709
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 3: the pocket now Chris Jones can't.

1710
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: Step up, So go ahead. What was your scattering report?

1711
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: So so I'm breaking down film.

1712
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,919
Speaker 4: I want to hear the break.

1713
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: And it was not as detailed for on you as

1714
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: it was the next game in the Super Bowl. But

1715
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: like for example here here is it was very you know,

1716
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: I only I took one day, right, I'm still a

1717
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: Marine Corps.

1718
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 4: Is that it's kind of important on the Titans?

1719
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: Or is that that one's on the Titans? The next

1720
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: one slide right? That is the Super Bowl? That was

1721
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: way more detailed, And that was like that was really

1722
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: dialed for that one. I just watched filing. You know,

1723
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: I got the what's the NFL game pass? Right? Yeah?

1724
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, the premium two?

1725
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is your this is your work I

1726
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: do for Frank. Yeah. So so, and that's how I

1727
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: met Frank's agent.

1728
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 4: When Tanehill kills her audibles, if he's under center, thirteen

1729
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 4: runs to one pass, he's if he's in gun kills

1730
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 4: or audibles seven pass to one run Yeah.

1731
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:56,440
Speaker 1: Connor.

1732
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 4: The screen Yeah, text that to Connor.

1733
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: That is wild.

1734
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 4: So you you're doing this.

1735
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: The super Bowl one. So so like I I didn't

1736
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: get into details on your hand placement or foot placement

1737
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but for the Super Bowl I did.

1738
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: And so I'm up in the nosebleeds at the Super

1739
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: Bowl and I every single play and calling run past

1740
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: to myself out they're about the wrong, They're about the past.

1741
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: And you're from section you know, five fifty two or whatever. Yeah,

1742
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: and you were Frank Oh in the Super Bowl every play, Yeah,

1743
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: you could you could tell off the off their hand place.

1744
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, did you did you see? Yeah? Let me

1745
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: let me uh look at this one. Who they played

1746
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl San France, Sam So it was

1747
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: uh Joe Staley and Michael Glinchy And like you can

1748
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: zoom in on that one, it was one hundred percent

1749
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: get tells. It was one hundred percent tells.

1750
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: Foot out, ninety pass, foot in under run, Michael Glinchy

1751
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 3: three point stance, fourteen and sixteen run foot in five

1752
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: out of five on foot out one all right, pass

1753
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: fifty percent past.

1754
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 4: Three point stance.

1755
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: It's dude, this is.

1756
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 4: Terrifying. It's amazing.

1757
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: This is hand together.

1758
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 4: Two out of three pass No way, what.

1759
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: Was he pull up? Frank flank Clark's stat line. So

1760
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 1: let me let me say this before. I mean, I

1761
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: already know this. The only person in the history of

1762
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: football to have the game winning or game ceiling sack

1763
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: in every single playoff game from Divisional round to Super

1764
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: Bowl is Frank Clark.

1765
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the coverage second.

1766
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's got the clutch gene. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

1767
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: he got paid. He's a he's a he's a dude,

1768
01:21:58,840 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: Joe Staley.

1769
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 4: When he's in a three point stance, five out of

1770
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 4: six were run. If his hands are apart, fifteen out

1771
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 4: of sixteen were a run hands together, it was passed.

1772
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 4: I mean that's yeah, because are details where everybody kind

1773
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 4: of finds our edge within the game. Obviously, if you're

1774
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 4: a genetic specimen to go with it, it makes.

1775
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: It that much more difficult, no doubt.

1776
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 4: Okay, So twenty nineteen, where is the Michigan Manifesto at

1777
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 4: this point?

1778
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 1: Okay? Is it alive? Yeah? Here the manfest?

1779
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 4: So take me even last year when when everything was happening.

1780
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, there's a manifesto, Like even if

1781
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 4: he's done the matter, I'm sure he knows exactly who

1782
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 4: talks it about him the entire he's got a manifesto

1783
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 4: on people that Yes, uh.

1784
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: No, I know exactly how that how that leaked. I

1785
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: know exactly who leaked it. I'm not I'm not gonna say,

1786
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: but but when I when I saw and here's here's

1787
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: how I know. Because the article said something about six

1788
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: hundred page Michigan Manifesto. Six hundred pages that was in

1789
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

1790
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 4: How big is it not to be thousands by? Do

1791
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 4: you have it in like a hard hard copy?

1792
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: Now? So that's that's the thing, like an old Testament book.

1793
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: So I have the I have the original like how

1794
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: it started, So this is what happened. So okay, go

1795
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: to the Naval Academy and you know I always go

1796
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: back to those legendary head coaches, right, they all have

1797
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: that that one thing in common military. Right. So my

1798
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: freshman year, I'm like, well, wow, you know this is

1799
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to learn a lot, a lot, and I

1800
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 1: need to have a place to organize everything I learned.

1801
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: I can't let one little thing slip by. And you

1802
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: know a lot of people when they take notes, they

1803
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: take notes whatever, and then it just they just stack notes,

1804
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: and how do you know where to reference? You know, Oh,

1805
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: I remember that one thing I read in that book?

1806
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: What what was that book? It was about? Uh? You know,

1807
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: it was about hiring and firing personnel? What book was it?

1808
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: And then you go through all your notes and it

1809
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: takes you, you know, two weeks before you find the

1810
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: quote or whatever it was that that you're to think of. Yeah, right,

1811
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: So I used the military the way that the military

1812
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: organizes everything as like my foundation for how I'm going

1813
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: to organize my notes. And it started off as a

1814
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: binder and then that got too big, and then I

1815
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: needed something electronically, so it went to a Microsoft word document.

1816
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: And then I realized, well, I need to be able

1817
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: to capture any thought or any idea at any time.

1818
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: I can only do a word document if I have

1819
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: my specific laptop. So then it translated to a Google doc.

1820
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: So now I can do it for my phone from anywhere.

1821
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: I can do it from right now. You give me

1822
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: a great quote, pull up my phone, type it in.

1823
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: It's in the manifesto. I know exactly where it is,

1824
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: So any you have, you could right now mention any thought,

1825
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: any concept of anything, all the way from leadership to

1826
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: the x's and o's of the game to you know,

1827
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: equipment at anything, and I'll be able to a quote

1828
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: or pull something if you had like, hey, what are

1829
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: your thoughts on uh, you know, firing personnel. Well, I

1830
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: have probably fifteen to twenty pages of notes on that,

1831
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: and I know exactly where it is, and it's super organized.

1832
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: It's just notes.

1833
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's notes, but it goes into a Google doc.

1834
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 3: And then later in the documentary you talk about signs

1835
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 3: and all that. When did the manifesto evolve into seeing

1836
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: these signs and being to.

1837
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: Break down You're talking about just deciphering signals in a game?

1838
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 4: Right, it is a manifesto part of that or these

1839
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 4: two That was just my That was my first Navy

1840
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 4: So your first major task was was with j.

1841
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: Naval Kate maybe football. So you know, I'm student coaching

1842
01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: now and we're a week from game day and I'm like, wait,

1843
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: wait what do I do on game day? Right? And

1844
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: this applies to me at Michigan too, And I started

1845
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: helping out, so like, really in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one,

1846
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: there's no job description for me because I'm not an employee, right,

1847
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: I'm just volunteering. I'm a volunteer student coach at Navy.

1848
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: And then I was a volunteer assistant at Michigan, So

1849
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: there's no job description. Why would you have a job

1850
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: description for a role that you don't even have? And

1851
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: then you know, I just kind of get my foot

1852
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: in the door and work my way in. So at

1853
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: both places. It started a Navy, I just say, so

1854
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: what do I do on game day? And I forget

1855
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: who it was, but one of the coaches said, well,

1856
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, let me look into it. But I

1857
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 1: remember last year we had a guy he just graduated,

1858
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: who tried deciphering signals, you know, opponent signals in game

1859
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: and I knew nothing about it. You know, I never

1860
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: did that in high school. I don't know, Okay, Okay,

1861
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: So I went in with the steet of paper, a

1862
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 1: clipboard and a pen and our first game at Ohio

1863
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: State and UH just started. You know that that was

1864
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: the birth. And they talked about the documentary. One of

1865
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: my favorite quotes the yeah, so well, I gotta be.

1866
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: I am one of the dumber people at the Naval Academy.

1867
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,959
Speaker 1: I mean I was like the last person get accepted

1868
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: pretty much, right, Uh, And I strugg I mean it's

1869
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: very very difficult, very difficult. But I'm like, well, these

1870
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: are eighteen nineteen twenty year old kids in Columbus, like

1871
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: I gotta be able to if they if they know

1872
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: there's signals, I can figure out their signals.

1873
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,879
Speaker 4: So it's a personal challenge.

1874
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it was like a yeah, and it's Ohio States,

1875
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: So right, you know.

1876
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 3: How long how how long in that game did you

1877
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 3: start to thige drives?

1878
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 4: Three drives?

1879
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: Yep?

1880
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 4: Okay, can you break that down for me a little bit.

1881
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean I don't remember, you know, I don't remember

1882
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: exactly right. You know the play. I think they ran

1883
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: it d memory. It's been a lot of games since then.

1884
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: But I just remember, you know, both sides of the ball,

1885
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: whatever I could get, And I just remember getting their

1886
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: offensive signals pretty early and just not knowing what to

1887
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: do with the information, so I would just yell it out.

1888
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: And because you know, there wasn't like a structure, no

1889
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: one knew who I was. Like, I'm two weeks into

1890
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: being a student coach, like they're not. They don't know

1891
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: who I am. Like the OC knew who I was,

1892
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: but he's up in the booth, and like the director

1893
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: of football ops knew who I was. That was pretty

1894
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: much it in the players. But so I'm just yelling

1895
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: like power left, power left, you know who's this? It'd

1896
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 1: be power left and the next play with you know

1897
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and it's you know, you just gotta

1898
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: have a knack for it. But it's it's not rocket science,

1899
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:57,480
Speaker 1: it's signals.

1900
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 4: Still, you're you're in such a spot to where again

1901
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 4: you don't have like a job title, you don't have

1902
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 4: a description, like you're in such a militant law of

1903
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 4: attraction success like I'm going to provide as much value

1904
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 4: as I possibly fucking can so that way they can't

1905
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 4: ignore me. Yes, and then you when when's the when's this?

1906
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 4: When is the point to where it starts to turn

1907
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: to where you're now becoming a valuable asset that they're

1908
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 4: leaning on just in you, just in your own role,

1909
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, Okay, you're doing

1910
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 4: the weather, then you're getting whatever. The next thing is

1911
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 4: either one either one.

1912
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 3: They maybe maybe ever recognize you for like, hey, this

1913
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 3: guy's really picking up signals, he's understanding he this really

1914
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 3: gives us an edge.

1915
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: Well well yeah, because they had a breakdown, right Yeah,

1916
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it's you know what I say this too,

1917
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: Like even at Michigan this last year before I was suspended, UH,

1918
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: signals was like ten to fifteen percent of my job,

1919
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, it's that's just one

1920
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: responsibility that I did. H You're still you know, breaking

1921
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: down film, getting formation tendencies, you know, stuff like stuff

1922
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: like that. Right yeah, And I mean there's a I'm

1923
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: gonna skip ahead right now. It's on my mind. The

1924
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: best team to ever protect their signals was East Carolina

1925
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: last year, first game, and they I'm not going to

1926
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: get into details on exactly what they did to protect

1927
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: because I don't want to out them. Right now, they're

1928
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: probably still using it because it's it's pretty legit. But

1929
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: it took me two and a half quarters to figure

1930
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: out which signaler was live. That's the longest it's ever

1931
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: taken me. Yep. And it was week one, so it's

1932
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: brand new signals, right, So I pretty much go into

1933
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: the blank Street paper and I had a good idea

1934
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: of how to tell who's live, but they like flipped

1935
01:30:54,560 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: it from the year before. And I also did one

1936
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: of the formation breakdowns for our defense, so I knew,

1937
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 1: for example, every time it's two by two four removed,

1938
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 1: so no tight end in the core, and their only

1939
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: run out of that formation was quarterback draw. And I'm

1940
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: fast forward, like the fourth quarter right now, we're up

1941
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 1: thirty to nothing, and I'm watching there. I now know

1942
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: who's live, and I see him signal the two by

1943
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: two formation, and then I see one signal. It was

1944
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: like alpha with his hand. And usually I mean, you

1945
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: guys understand play calls, right, like so Bard association. So

1946
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: if there's a formation and then one word, chances are

1947
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: it's not a pass, right because you have a pass protection.

1948
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: And then the concept.

1949
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, like if a huddle breaks really quickly, you're like, okay,

1950
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 4: it's probably run here. But if the quarterbacks in there

1951
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 4: looking around anywhere else, You're.

1952
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: Like, all right, he's tagging receivers and all that. And

1953
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 1: then also a lot of runs still have some tags

1954
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 1: to it, right, So only one word, I'm thinking drawer screen,

1955
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: So and then this all goes on. This goes on

1956
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: in my head in like a second right, So I

1957
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: see the two x two like doubles formation, whatever you

1958
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: want to call it, and then I see one signal.

1959
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, that's got to be drawer screen. I

1960
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: would think it was second in. I think it was

1961
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: like second and five and it was two minutes, so

1962
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 1: but in my mind, I'm like, this isn't really a

1963
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: draw situation. But then I also remembered twenty nineteen Penn State,

1964
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: same signal was their quarterback draw, and that's the only

1965
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: time I've ever seen that signal. And I remember the breakdown.

1966
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: I did quarterback draw out of that formation, So I

1967
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: think you can see it because coach Mentor was the

1968
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: interim head coach of that game, and they happen to

1969
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: be showing him and I'm like behind him, I'm like,

1970
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: I think this is draw, and so we're yelling draw, draw, draw,

1971
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: which is one of the words feelings when you say

1972
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: I think it's something and then everyone yeah. I'm like,

1973
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: oh god, this better be yeah, better hit yeah uh,

1974
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: And it was a draw, but they I mean, they

1975
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 1: still converted first down. But it's just like that's how

1976
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: many things have to go into it, right, Like it's

1977
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: not just like, look at the signal. It's not this

1978
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: like black and white thing. A lot of times I'm

1979
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 1: kinda yeah, I think this is what it is. And

1980
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 1: and you know, so kind of how how it works

1981
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: on game day is in my mind, I have a

1982
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: threshold where if I am not ninety five percent certain,

1983
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: I'm not saying a word. And I got to take

1984
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: a step back for this. All that makes sense. So

1985
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 1: in college football, right, we're gonna get into some some

1986
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: really good details here.

1987
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 4: Let's go.

1988
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, so so college football the culture has

1989
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 1: always been to go up tempo ever since the mid

1990
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: two thousands. Right, you don't see many teams at huddle. NFL.

1991
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: The culture is obviously to huddle. And I'm gonna kind

1992
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: of mix last year to present day now because of

1993
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: the whole new quarterback coms rule and everyone assumes that, oh,

1994
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: signaling is over. Signaling is picked up now. And to

1995
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: understand that, you have to understand the history of signals.

1996
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: You know, just how it works. And the reason signals

1997
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: exist is because of up tempo. It's not because there's

1998
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 1: no quarterback comes. It's because offenses like to go up tempo. Right,

1999
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: I have not watched a disclaimer. I have not watched

2000
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: Ole Miss in Tennessee all that much this year, but

2001
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: I would assume they're still going up tempo. I don't

2002
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: see a world in which all these teams that are

2003
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: like snapping the ball with thirty seconds up in the

2004
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: play clock are huddling all because they have coach to

2005
01:34:55,960 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 1: quarterback comes now right, So they're going up tempo, which

2006
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 1: forces the defense to signal right. You can't huddle as

2007
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: a defense if the offense is spread out right, they'll

2008
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: just snap and throw it over your head if you're

2009
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 1: in a huddle. So signaling will always exist as much

2010
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 1: as offensive coordinators wanted to want it to exist, and

2011
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:24,879
Speaker 1: signal stealing has been more prevalent with offenses stealing defensive signals.

2012
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: So going back to twenty eighteen twenty nineteen with Michigan,

2013
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: our defense was getting our signal stall and left and

2014
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: right teams like Ohio State, Penn State, Indiana, so on,

2015
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: pretty much the whole, the whole big tent. Probably Nebraska, Yeah.

2016
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 4: Probably, I mean, yeah, you're you're not wrong, because it's

2017
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 4: everyone simplicity.

2018
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: That's like Iowa and Michigan State is everyone else state?

2019
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so because they were the worst of protecting.

2020
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going to say, for simplicity, for

2021
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 3: you to say that about Michigan State, you're saying that

2022
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 3: the worst of protecting.

2023
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: If you are protecting, you're probably not stealing, right, Like

2024
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: if you if you're good and stealing, you know what

2025
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 1: it takes to protect. So the teams that were really

2026
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: good at protecting you, well you can also look they

2027
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: got a guy just like me. Right, They just they

2028
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: didn't the media didn't go crazy about their guys, right,

2029
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 1: But everyone has a guy.

2030
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 3: Everyone has a connor. Yeah, some things have multiple conners,

2031
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 3: oh a lot. Well, we'll definitely get into that. Let's

2032
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 3: keep let's keep breaking. That is obviously a huge thing.

2033
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: So so we're getting our signal stolen left and right.

2034
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,799
Speaker 4: And that's because of the tempo you guys are facing.

2035
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 4: And it's just simply.

2036
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Because you know, and and just football in general, right, like,

2037
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: whether it's covering up issues as a play caller or

2038
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: personnel issues, whatever it is, you can always utilize and

2039
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: manipulate tempo to give you an advantage to regain that advantage, right,

2040
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: And a lot of times, and especially in a world

2041
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: where everyone's signaling you can even force the defense to

2042
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 1: signal before you signal. Maybe not force, right, because at

2043
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you know what's going on,

2044
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 1: it's it's just a cat and mouse game. You just

2045
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: wait until they signal and just calling out on their bluff.

2046
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 4: And just to your defense too, like if a being

2047
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 4: a defender, if an offense is tempoing you, the coordinator

2048
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 4: will kind of tell you before the game. Hey, if

2049
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 4: they start tempoing us, there'll only be like two or

2050
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 4: three calls that.

2051
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: They go to correct.

2052
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 4: So you're almost understanding the tendency before it happens.

2053
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 1: But also, uh, you know they can tempo and then

2054
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: hard count mm hmm. Right, So just to get whatever

2055
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: you're in. Maybe you showed blitz or maybe you showed

2056
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: your safety shell, or you showed too high, whatever it is, right,

2057
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: they you know, they get the line quick and they

2058
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: get you to kind of tell real quick, and then

2059
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: they call their play and they expose it. Right they

2060
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh they cover four, let's call cover four, beater. Oh,

2061
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: hey they're bringing the nickel, they're dropping the buck. Let's

2062
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: let's throw a slant, you know, to the slot right away. Yeah,

2063
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And so yeah, that was happening to us.

2064
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: And so in twenty twenty one, the big change was

2065
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: So when coach McDonald got the job, he asked, he said, hey,

2066
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's new, he's been in the NFL coming

2067
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: back to college and he goes, hey, you know, what's

2068
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: how do we protect our signals? And I told him,

2069
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I said, well, it's a cat and mouse game. You

2070
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: got to think of it like it's like red light

2071
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: green light. If I'm watching them signal and I am

2072
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: not talking, that means they have not signaled, So don't signal,

2073
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 1: because then we're the mouse. You just have to wait

2074
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: for them to begin signaling. So, you know, and it's

2075
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 1: not the sexy thing everyone wants to hear, but ninety

2076
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: nine times out of one hundred, they already know what

2077
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: they're calling no matter what. They just want to have

2078
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: the green light to call it so their signal doesn't

2079
01:38:53,280 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: get stolen. Right, So usually in game, I'm looking look

2080
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: and I'm looking and if I say, like, hey, trips,

2081
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: why flex? You know the formation? Maybe I say like

2082
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 1: why across to trips? Why flex? Which here's usual signals

2083
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 1: for like why across? Like why across trips? Why? Yeah?

2084
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: You know, like it's anyone could could see that and

2085
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: just say, hey, this is this is what the formation is.

2086
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Usually he's calling the play just like that, right, So

2087
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not like the coordinator was waiting

2088
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 1: for like, hey, is it going to be a run?

2089
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: Is it going to be a pass? It's it's more

2090
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: like he's Mike McDonald is a very successful college football

2091
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 1: coach and now NFL head coach. Right, Jesse Mentor is

2092
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: what are the Chargers are giving up the fewest points

2093
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL?

2094
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 6: Right?

2095
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, So these guys get paid to do what

2096
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 1: they do. They're not listening. They're not like calling their

2097
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: defense waiting for me. I'm just a green light to

2098
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 1: basically tell then, hey, you have permission to signal without

2099
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: getting stolen, and and that is kind of where it

2100
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: picked up in twenty one, where we were now no

2101
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: longer the mouse. It was all even playing field essentially,

2102
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 1: and what teams will do though, like Ohio State and

2103
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: I got a hole, we might I got a whole

2104
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 1: breakdown on every single play from twenty eighteen to present day, Michigan,

2105
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State.

2106
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, from twenty eighteen to present day, a whole

2107
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 3: breakdown of Ohio States.

2108
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: When when Ohio State's on offense and we're on defense,

2109
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 1: and I categorized, I watched every play on film and

2110
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 1: I categorized it, who's the mouse, who's the cat? And

2111
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: then sometimes it's just neutral the wash you out, yep,

2112
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: and here we go. So in twenty eighteen, Ohio State

2113
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,719
Speaker 1: was the cat every play because they're picking us apart

2114
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: signal wise, right, and yeah, they're running mess every time

2115
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 1: we're in cover one. They're running meshrail every time we're

2116
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: blitz in. They happened being max protection. Take a shot

2117
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: every time we're in zone they run the ball, right,

2118
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a coincidence. I'm watching them. They

2119
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 1: have their me in you know, Ryan Daysier, and we signal,

2120
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 1: they talk. I see it. We talked, but we signaled first.

2121
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: So were the mouse, right, and and then so that

2122
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: happened in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, So they were the

2123
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 1: cat every play those two games. They averaged eight eight

2124
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: point one five yards per play in twenty eighteen and

2125
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 1: eight yards were playing twenty nineteen, and they had fifteen

2126
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns in those two games. Okay, twenty twenty one, they

2127
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 1: were It was a stalemate seventy two times. Okay, so

2128
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: that's like they're signaling, and then we start to signal

2129
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 1: right after they start to signal. Okay, they were the

2130
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: cat three times. And here's how I categorize them being

2131
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 1: the cat when they had a play called. So it

2132
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 1: starts off as a stalemate, and then Ryan Day gets CJ.

2133
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Stroud's attention last second because he sees what we're in.

2134
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: Maybe they got our signal, maybe they see our show,

2135
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and they change the play right before

2136
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: the snap. Okay, that's them being the cat, so our

2137
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: signals last ye and then they were the mouse every

2138
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: time they hard counted that game. Here's why in twenty

2139
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty nineteen, every time they hard counted and

2140
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 1: then looked at the sideline, we already had our signal

2141
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: called and we never changed it. So I mean they

2142
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: exposure right right right, so they know that the zone

2143
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,879
Speaker 1: man twenty twenty one, I know their heart counts signal,

2144
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: so I know when they're going to hard count, so

2145
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: we don't have to show a blitzer or whatnot. They

2146
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: stole they stole the wrong signal because we would change

2147
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 1: our call.

2148
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 4: And do you know who Ryan Days Conor Stallions is yeah.

2149
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna out here. Yeah you should as

2150
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 1: you should have.

2151
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 4: But we know he's there.

2152
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is he good at his job? Yes, very Yeah.

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01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: So when they were the mouse, actually i'll start with

2154
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: when they're the cat. When they were the cat, so

2155
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: they they changed the play late three times, they averaged

2156
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 1: nine point three yards per play. When it was a stalemate,

2157
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: they averaged five point three yards per play. They did

2158
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: score three touchdowns. It's seventy two plays, so that's the

2159
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: majority of the game. Right When they were the mouse,

2160
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: they only averaged four yards per play six times.

2161
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 3: And you said there were seventy two total plays or

2162
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 3: they were.

2163
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: Seventy they were the stalemate, so it was eighty one

2164
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: total plays, gotcha. And yeah, you see, when they're the cat,

2165
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 1: they averaged the most yards per play all the way down.

2166
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: When they're the mouse, it's they're not they're not doing much.

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01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: So their first the twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen they

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01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: hard counted forty times. You can go back and watch

2169
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: the film. They hard counted forty times twenty twenty one

2170
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 1: six because it wasn't working right, because they couldn't steal

2171
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: our signal, in their hard count it because we just

2172
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 1: basically played this cat and mouse game with them and

2173
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: didn't allow them to to be the mouse or to

2174
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: be the cat every time.

2175
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,759
Speaker 3: When you're explaining this cat and mouse game to the coaches,

2176
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 3: how receptive were they to, Hey, you.

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01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: Gotta very Mike McDonald is amazing. Yeah, I mean he

2178
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: he's one of the smartest people I've been around. An

2179
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 1: elite coach, right. He also empowered everyone. He's a great

2180
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: leader and he would listen. So, I mean, it couldn't

2181
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: have been any better having him there. He was. It

2182
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 1: was huge.

2183
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:45,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's huge.

2184
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 1: Is so basically he just you know, hey, I'm the DC.

2185
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 1: I want to call the plays and focus on that.

2186
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to get my signal stolen. Can you

2187
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 1: help me? Yeah, just you know, wait till it's a

2188
01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: green light. Okay, thanks.

2189
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 4: Outside of the signal stuff, what situations were you in

2190
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:04,799
Speaker 4: charge of breaking down?

2191
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 1: Well, in twenty one, I was still in the Marine Corps, okay,

2192
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 1: so I was That's when I was flying back and forth.

2193
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 1: So I mean I just showed up on game day okay,

2194
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 1: and helped out twenty two when I get hired, you know,

2195
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: recruiting and then recruiting signals and and then it involved

2196
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 1: into helping out with the linebackers. Okay, nice formation breakdowns.

2197
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'm so fascinated, Like this is incredible.

2198
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you want me to keep going, this

2199
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State thing. They weren't the cat one play in

2200
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two in Columbus, and they averaged six yards

2201
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: per play, and then when they stole the wrong signal

2202
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 1: because they hard counted, uh, they averaged five yards per play.

2203
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 1: They scored one touchdown each in those situations. But it's funny.

2204
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 1: There's a there's a video someone sent me of It's

2205
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 1: like me by coach into twenty twenty two and Columbus

2206
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: and some guy like is doing this breakdown. Sam, I'm saying,

2207
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: run right, run right?

2208
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 4: Oh you talk about where all eleven players just ran?

2209
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 4: Do we have that clip that.

2210
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't even like, First of all, I'm saying Nike,

2211
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: because that's what we called an opponent's heard count Nike.

2212
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 1: And you can see the Nike board go up behind me.

2213
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 1: We have a board in Nike basically tolling our you know,

2214
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 1: safeties like don't show a shell. They're trying to steal

2215
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: our signal right now, right right, and be ready for

2216
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: us to change the call. So if they look, we're

2217
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: going to change our call to make make sure they

2218
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: stole the wrong sign.

2219
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 4: This is the clip what we're talking about right here.

2220
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: No, that was after one of their heart counts. You

2221
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: see heart counts right there.

2222
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Nike signed behind it.

2223
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 1: And we had the Nike sign right. But there's a

2224
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: different one where like some guy does this breakdown and

2225
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: like he's trying to like read my lips and he says,

2226
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 1: he's saying, run right, run right, that's what he's saying.

2227
01:46:56,360 --> 01:47:00,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying right, but I'm saying Nike, Nike. And by

2228
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: the way, the run was to the left, because it's

2229
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: from the defense's perspective, right, Like, I'm not gonna say

2230
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: it's a run of the right when they run it

2231
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: to our left, but yes, I say Nike, And then

2232
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: you can see them hard count. Look, they just stole

2233
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: whatever we just signaled.

2234
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 3: And the video in the group chat, Yeah, we'll pull

2235
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 3: that up for sure, because there's you see so many

2236
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 3: of these clips and videos of you and you're saying

2237
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 3: something to somebody and everyone wants to freak out over it.

2238
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Out but I'm actually protecting our signals. That's the whole

2239
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,560
Speaker 1: point of what I was saying. I'm telling our coordinator

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01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: they are hard counting. Call a play. You don't want

2241
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: to call because they're gonna they're trying to steal our signal.

2242
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: So this is the clip right here.

2243
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 4: Yes, they're saying Nike, Nike.

2244
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. You can see me say twin, why Twin, why Nike?

2245
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 1: And there goes the Nike board. You saw it go up. Yeah,

2246
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: and and you see Ohio State hard count. So now

2247
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 1: they're all looking at the sideline. Now they're signaling, and

2248
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: then we call our other place. So they just stole

2249
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: the wrong signal and it goes for no yards.

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01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 4: Everybody, they're feasting break down the it's just tight end screen.

2251
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I want to say the Houston, Texas heat stover.

2252
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2253
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 4: And he said essentially like it's a formation we've never

2254
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 4: done it out of, We've never ran this play out of.

2255
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 4: And he was beside himself on figuring out how you

2256
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 4: guys need that clip too.

2257
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2258
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 4: Insane, incredible awareness by the defense and understanding that it

2259
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 4: was a screen. Guys just in the film room.

2260
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 1: Uh So, I don't remember what formation it was out

2261
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: of But can we.

2262
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 4: Pull that clip up before you explain it?

2263
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2264
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, just scroll up that one right there. Did they

2265
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 4: show the play?

2266
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 1: No, they don't, but we could. We could pull it up.

2267
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, see yeah, trying to type. Yeah, I'm thinking

2268
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 4: about it.

2269
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: I had to be first half, first quarter because they're

2270
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 1: going the same direction around the twenty five thirty yard line. Yeah,

2271
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Who was right in front of us?

2272
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: It was into the boundary in front of you.

2273
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, we're getting to you called this play that

2274
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 3: they had not run before, but you were able to

2275
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 3: decipher it. Is this one of your top five calls?

2276
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: It is like, is this like a top fired? Though

2277
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 1: it backfired? They get c J. Stroud turned around and

2278
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 1: everyone was right there, and he scrambled and got it

2279
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: first down or at least got significant yards. Frank's facetiming

2280
01:49:56,479 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: me right now twenty two He answer it, dude. Frank

2281
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: was a war daddy at Michigan. Frank, we're on the

2282
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: bus right now. What are you doing?

2283
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 4: What are you going to take house for?

2284
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: What you doing?

2285
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 4: That's awesome and well I hope you're doing well, brother.

2286
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, jump after yeah, say you all love that's funny.

2287
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: I already gave him a shout out. Yeah, no doubt

2288
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 1: that tight end screen. Yes whatever the formation said. You know,

2289
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 1: here's the thing they Ohio State had like eight signalers,

2290
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 1: eight signalers all year something like that, and everyone signals

2291
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: the formation. Mistake number one, Like, I don't need to

2292
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 1: know who's life to see what the formation. Anyone can

2293
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: see that. Uh. Mistake number two, They never changed who

2294
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 1: their live signaler was the entire season. So I guess

2295
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 1: their condor stallions. Isn't that good? Then? Apparently not as good.

2296
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 4: They didn't do it.

2297
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: They didn't do no self scouting correct. So so and

2298
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: here's here's the bottom line of you know, how how

2299
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,560
Speaker 1: can you be so good in game? I just realized

2300
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 1: this is the clip right here? Yep, that's it? Slot Why?

2301
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 4: Why?

2302
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: So? I think they motioned into slot? Why? Why?

2303
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 9: And then also that's a cup block you see a

2304
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 9: cup by the pressure its penalty?

2305
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the signal, the signal for the slot

2306
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 1: YY formation. And and then the guy who was live

2307
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: the entire season signaled why delay? Am I supposed to

2308
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: see that? And be like, oh, I don't know what

2309
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: this is? Right? Right? Right? So you call it out,

2310
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's got to be a wide

2311
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 1: delay screen.

2312
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 4: God.

2313
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 3: So we talked about Ohio State having their own Connor stallions.

2314
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 3: How many of the Power now Power four conferences have.

2315
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's got to be eighty to ninety.

2316
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: But like the Big Ten before, well, I'm sure USC does,

2317
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure Washington probably does. Any team worth has. The

2318
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: only two teams that to my understanding did not were

2319
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 1: Iowa and Michigan State in the Big Ten. Nebraska when

2320
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 1: we played them last year, this is like what two

2321
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 1: games before I got suspended. They first of all, they

2322
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 1: huddled almost every play. We want to go game by game.

2323
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: Last year, ECU new you know, new signals because it's

2324
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: game one, and they're the best at protecting. So we're

2325
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: we're up thirty to nothing. Before I even started figuring

2326
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 1: out what was going on. Next game was what un

2327
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: l V They had one signaler, so that was easy.

2328
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Game three, Bowling Green, Uh, they were okay protecting. I

2329
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: figured them out pretty early. Game four, Rutgers, they huddled

2330
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 1: every single play. They're they're really good at getting signals,

2331
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: so again you're really good, Like you know, we huddled.

2332
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeahs Nebraska handled business.

2333
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we handled business.

2334
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 4: So they're very good at protecting their players.

2335
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: Very good because they're they're good at getting signals.

2336
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 4: So they did you figure them out at all?

2337
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 1: Well, like I know their guy, Yeah, so we both

2338
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: First of all, Michigan offense, we don't. We don't. We

2339
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:03,759
Speaker 1: never really steal signals. We we huddle more than anyone

2340
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 1: in the country, I think besides Air Force maybe or

2341
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 1: whoever one of the service academies. But you don't see

2342
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Michigan go up temple all too much. But yeah, we

2343
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: huddled every play, and they huddled every play. And then

2344
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 1: after the game, I talked to their guy and we

2345
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:19,839
Speaker 1: just that was the ultimate stalemate.

2346
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And did you know him personally before the game?

2347
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah yeah. And then right after the game,

2348
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: all right, right back to you know, whatever you need

2349
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 1: help with, you know, let me know. I'll give you

2350
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: what I got, and he gives me what he's got,

2351
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: you know. And that happens every Sunday, right.

2352
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 3: So every Sunday you essentially talk to the team you

2353
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 3: just played their guy.

2354
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Anyone, and a lot of a lot of coaches do

2355
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: that too. It's like, right, I'm sure the head coaches

2356
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: exchange information with and not even just the team you

2357
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 1: just played, like, you know, okay, uh, what Michigan's got

2358
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: Illinois coming up? And Illinois already played Nebraska, So I

2359
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 1: could call Nebraska's guy and be like, hey, what you

2360
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: got in Illinois? Who do you play next? I'll give

2361
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 1: you what I got on so and so. Right, that

2362
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 1: happens all the time. And that's not just signals, that's decoordinators.

2363
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: You know, hey, what plays did you like? What what

2364
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 1: did you see? You know all that. So yeah, after

2365
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: that Rutgers game, it was right back to all right,

2366
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: we're friends now. We knew that was gonna happen. No

2367
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: signals at all the entire game. And then the next

2368
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: game was Nebraska and they did not signal until like

2369
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: their third drive of the game. We were we were

2370
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 1: already up fourteen nothing before their first signal.

2371
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 4: Right, they had the third and one pick.

2372
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: But the funniest thing was, you know, most teams have

2373
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: boards that either sometimes it means formation, sometimes it tells

2374
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 1: you which signaler is live. It could mean many different things. Uh,

2375
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: Nebraska's boards told you which signaler was live. And they

2376
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 1: had these quadrants and pictures in each quadrant and most

2377
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: of the pictures. I'm sure it didn't mean anything, but

2378
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: one of the boards they had had my Heights school

2379
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 1: logo on it.

2380
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 4: No ship nice, so they knew.

2381
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. We all know, we all know

2382
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 1: who each other are, so that was probably just a funny.

2383
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 4: Like yeah, hm, look at any other intel with Nebraska, No.

2384
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: Who they play next week?

2385
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 4: We it's a bye week.

2386
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 1: But then Indiana, Indiana, that's a good game. Yeah, where

2387
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: is it at Indiana?

2388
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 4: What kind of what kind of information can you give

2389
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 4: us in Indiana?

2390
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: Uh, give me a week.

2391
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 4: I was gonna say for your text you go back

2392
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 4: to the j m U stuff.

2393
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, with who is it?

2394
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 4: Signetti?

2395
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 1: He's really good. And then the next game after Rutgers

2396
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 1: last year as Minnesota, they huddled every play.

2397
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 4: And then you guys body bag.

2398
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: And then and then Indiana, Uh, they were decent at

2399
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: protecting their signals. And then and then I wasn't there.

2400
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 4: What did Michigan have a signal steeler before you?

2401
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: No? So that again there when I went from Navy

2402
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 1: to there, like once I was in the Marine Corps.

2403
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 1: It was twenty eighteen was the start of it. I

2404
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: it was maybe week four five. I think actually the

2405
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: last game I was not the last game I was

2406
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: in the stands for. May have been Michigan Nebraska in

2407
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen. Maybe it was Northwestern, I don't remember

2408
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: who it was. It was one of those two teams. Yeah,

2409
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 1: and then after that I'm on the field, you know,

2410
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: because I asked, well, I was there for a two

2411
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: week kind of limbo period between training and being stationed

2412
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 1: in California, and so I asked, like, Hey, what can

2413
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: I do on game day? And they're like, I don't know,

2414
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: what do you think? I said, well, I mean I

2415
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 1: did this in Navy. I'm going to try that. And

2416
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, sure, I don't think we have anyone

2417
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 1: doing that, and just ran with it. I don't. I

2418
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 1: don't know about that.

2419
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask the question, because did anyone from

2420
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 3: South Carolina get signs from you to steal from Tennessee

2421
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 3: and Georgia.

2422
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone at South Carolina. Now here's what

2423
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 1: I'll say. There's this whole like a giant circle of

2424
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 1: the intel guys right that know each other, right, and

2425
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 1: you're usually one or two phone calls away from anyone

2426
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: you want, right, Like if we played. We played Georgia

2427
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 1: in twenty one in the Orange Bowl, and I got

2428
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: a hold of a couple SEC teams that were playing

2429
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: Big ten teams in their bowl game, and so I'd

2430
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: give them what I had on them, and they give

2431
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 1: me what they had on Georgia. Also, this is my favorite,

2432
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 1: So trading happens all the time. Right, twenty twenty one,

2433
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 1: we lose the Michigan State Kenneth Walker a great game,

2434
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: played fantastic yep, and we needed some help. Right, they

2435
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 1: had to lose twice and we had to Michigan State

2436
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,919
Speaker 1: had to lose twice, and then that would have resulted

2437
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 1: in having a three way tie or no, we would

2438
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 1: have beaten Ohio State and then it would just been

2439
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 1: US Ohio State because then Michigan State would not have

2440
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: been in that three way tie. And they lost to Purdue,

2441
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 1: and then I think it was the next week they

2442
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 1: played Ohio State. The week before we played Ohio State,

2443
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: and so we needed Ohio State to win. So I

2444
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 1: gave Michigan State signals to a buddy of mine and said, hey,

2445
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 1: I changed all the logos. It looked I made it

2446
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 1: look like it came from a different school that I don't.

2447
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to give Ohio State something from Michigan. Right,

2448
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: they might not use it, who knows, but we need

2449
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State to win. And I know they steal a

2450
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 1: crap out of defensive signals. So here you go. So

2451
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:48,880
Speaker 1: I made it. I gave it to a buddy who

2452
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: may have given it to a buddy who then gave

2453
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 1: it to Ohio State and said telephone, yep, I got

2454
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 1: this from so and so, you know, name your school, university,

2455
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 1: and yeah, so they got I'm sure they probably already

2456
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:07,480
Speaker 1: had him, but it just confirmed everything. But yeah, and

2457
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 1: then they won like sixty to nothing, and that's all

2458
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 1: you needed. Yep.

2459
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 3: Does in this in this world of trading, does anybody

2460
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 3: ever trade their own schools information?

2461
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 1: I have no idea. That'd be crazy, but.

2462
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 4: You never know, right because I'm assuming like trade their

2463
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 4: own schools information.

2464
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 3: Right, Like I'm assuming not everybody was as massive a

2465
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 3: fan of the school they worked for like you were.

2466
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 3: So I know that, you know, just like corrupt politicians.

2467
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure.

2468
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past certain people.

2469
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw one out there, go ahead, Lineberry coach

2470
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:46,880
Speaker 4: got fired last year. Yeah, or he resigned and then

2471
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 4: when Gama fired No.

2472
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 1: That was that was two years ago coach. No, No, that

2473
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 1: was that that was last year time last year. No,

2474
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 1: but he so it was at the end of twenty

2475
02:00:55,960 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 1: twenty two. He wasn't at Michigan during the twenty three season.

2476
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 4: Wasn't somebody at Michigan during last year? Not during the season,

2477
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 4: and their computer kind of got found grenade the computer

2478
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 4: and then they they went to Alabama.

2479
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 1: M h that you're you're mixing stories right now, Okay,

2480
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: can you help differentiate the stories? Would that George Hilo

2481
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 1: as a linebacker coach in twenty twenty two? He was

2482
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 1: not at Michigan in twenty three and then was hired

2483
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:26,920
Speaker 1: by Obama before our game, But he was like eleven

2484
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 1: months removed or whatever. Got you? I don't quote man exactly.

2485
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 4: Right, And you you assumed the reason why he was

2486
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 4: hired by Alabama right before?

2487
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, why wouldn't you have heard him earlier in

2488
02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 1: the year, right because Alabama was trying to cheat?

2489
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 4: I'll say it. I mean it's just like in the

2490
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 4: NFL if somebody like, yeah, if I were to be

2491
02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 4: playing for Washington, I get cut and then the Eagles bring

2492
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 4: me in right away, and they want to just know

2493
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 4: like what they operate.

2494
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're squealing like a pig.

2495
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

2496
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 4: When I when I when I came to the Titans,

2497
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 4: I was in the offensive room with Lafleur and then

2498
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 4: breaking down the Washington breaking down Washington defense, how we

2499
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 4: played cover one and how we did things in the

2500
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 4: red zone, how we played triangle when it was three

2501
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:12,800
Speaker 4: by one, like all that stuff. You want to win.

2502
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, you want

2503
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:14,960
Speaker 4: to win.

2504
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 3: I want to keep breaking down this this crazy underground

2505
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 3: world of trading different teams information. When did you become

2506
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 3: aware of this?

2507
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 1: Uh? Eighteen twenty eighteen is when you found out there's

2508
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 1: a navy. Yeah. I never no one ever really talked

2509
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: to me from other saa.

2510
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah you want to help, We're good.

2511
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you. I just got killed.

2512
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 4: Yah.

2513
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys still shit. Twenty eighteen it was after

2514
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: after the regular season. I think it was after that.

2515
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: I got a call someone asking for some stuff on

2516
02:02:56,840 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 1: some certain teams. Yeah, and that's when I was like, wait,

2517
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,040
Speaker 1: what what teams?

2518
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 4: What teams were calling about?

2519
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:08,680
Speaker 1: What teams? Again, I shouldn't read anyone Okay.

2520
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna take a quick moment and interrupt this episode.

2521
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 4: This football season, don't walk around with helmet hair like

2522
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 4: a total rookie. You've been in the game long enough

2523
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,560
Speaker 4: to know that how you wear your hair matters, and

2524
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:22,200
Speaker 4: just because your team's mascot is a wolverine doesn't mean

2525
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 4: you should look like one. Up top, keep your head

2526
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 4: in the game and go to sport Clips. They are

2527
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 4: pro stylists that have mastered the x's and o's of

2528
02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:31,880
Speaker 4: men's hair, so you can get a tight fade. Well

2529
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Speaker 4: kicking back and watch us some fade routes on TV.

2530
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 4: They'll have a perfectly crafted game plan to make you

2531
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 4: look your best, no halftime adjustments needed. Remember the difference

2532
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 4: between an okay cut and a great cut is called

2533
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 4: sport clips. It is a game changer. Back to this episode,

2534
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:47,160
Speaker 4: tea breaks.

2535
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:48,840
Speaker 3: Have been taken by Connor and by Will. I had

2536
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 3: this protein bar and let me give a shameless shoutout,

2537
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Speaker 3: real quick, dude, to Alpha Alpha ten.

2538
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

2539
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:55,360
Speaker 4: Alpha ten?

2540
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 3: No free shadouts, However, this is like a mom and

2541
02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 3: pop shop type thing to get off a nation. Chelsea

2542
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 3: very delicious, sticks to your teeth coats, the throat, coats

2543
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:12,520
Speaker 3: the throat this. So there's been so much Obviously, the

2544
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:14,560
Speaker 3: landscape of college football and how you do play calling

2545
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 3: has changed so much, and a lot of it has

2546
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 3: to do with what happened last year with Michigan and

2547
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 3: everything like that.

2548
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 1: That you are pointy fingers at you. I don't think

2549
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 1: anything is people people didn't People in football didn't change much. Yeah,

2550
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 1: it's just the media perception.

2551
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 3: So but because now they're going to the comps times,

2552
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:35,160
Speaker 3: so is it much more difficult to steal?

2553
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 1: So it's actually signal seiling is happening more now. So

2554
02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 1: remember I explained the whole you know, how how it evolved,

2555
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:48,160
Speaker 1: how it works in the difference between the NFL and

2556
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:52,400
Speaker 1: college it's just because of the tempo. I mean, shoot,

2557
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 1: NFL teams still signal some not all the time, but

2558
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 1: like if they ever want to go tempo, they signal, yeah,

2559
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 1: go Temple, you gotta signal. Sometimes it's the coach to

2560
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:04,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback and then the quarterback signals to the receivers

2561
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 1: and tells everyone in the core. Or some teams have

2562
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 1: signalers on the sideline that are ready to signal anytime

2563
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 1: they want to go tempo. That's the league though. College

2564
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: now that new helmet communications. It's not a rule, right,

2565
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 1: it's not a mandate, it's just a feature. It's a tool.

2566
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 1: So now coaches can talk to the quarterbacks. That doesn't

2567
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 1: mean they have to signal or or that doesn't mean

2568
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: they have to huddle or that they want to huddle.

2569
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 1: So what's happening now, and this isn't for everyone, but

2570
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 1: a lot of teams are doing this. Is now they

2571
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 1: are continuing to go up tempo, and they are stealing

2572
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 1: the defensive signal and now they can just talk to

2573
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback up until fifteen seconds and tell them exactly

2574
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:56,520
Speaker 1: what's coming. So, hey, they're blitzing the nickel, they're dropping

2575
02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 1: the boundary in, throw the slant to the slot. Whatever

2576
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 1: it is. Now you can do that. Uh, there's already

2577
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna say who. It's not a

2578
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 1: Big ten school, but there's already been a team that

2579
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 1: has had bluetooth to the quarterback for years. No shit, really,

2580
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not even I'm not gonna tell you

2581
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 1: if you're cold. It's just not in the Big ten.

2582
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 4: It's a Big ten team.

2583
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 1: It's a powerful, powerful, Power five what do you want

2584
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:24,680
Speaker 1: to call it? Time? Yeah?

2585
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:25,560
Speaker 3: Is it irrelevant?

2586
02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:27,560
Speaker 1: So like why you know the officials aren't going to

2587
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:32,840
Speaker 1: check to see if there's bluetooth because in ninety nine

2588
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 1: percent of people's minds, you would only have bluetooth to

2589
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:40,000
Speaker 1: huddle up, when in reality you have bluetooth to tell

2590
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:43,720
Speaker 1: the QB what the defensive signal is. Now that's happening

2591
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot. So it's I mean, it's funny. I've I've

2592
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 1: gotten phone calls from teams asking if I still have

2593
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 1: so and so's signals and whatnot? Really uh, and I'm

2594
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: not even you know, technically in it right now, technically

2595
02:06:56,080 --> 02:07:02,240
Speaker 1: technically Uh. And then I mean, shoot, I have gone

2596
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: to every Michigan game and everyone we played has signaled

2597
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:08,879
Speaker 1: really on offense.

2598
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:12,800
Speaker 4: And you are you're still sitting Minnesota did not, they

2599
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,959
Speaker 4: didn't last year, but everyone else sitting in the stands

2600
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 4: and you can see the signal color and so you

2601
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 4: essentially know what's happening.

2602
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 1: Uh. You know, when I'm at the Michigan games now,

2603
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm just there to enjoy it when I know I'm

2604
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: obviously aware enough to see, oh they're signaling. And for example,

2605
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:31,400
Speaker 1: like USC when we played USC, you know, it's the

2606
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley offense. It's the same as his brother Garrett

2607
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 1: Riley when he was at TCU and now Clemson. I

2608
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 1: was even remembering some of the stuff like, oh, wait,

2609
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 1: isn't this this is just all go special and it

2610
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 1: was right. You know, they're not they're not changing their signals.

2611
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 1: Maybe a few, but like Texas, they they signaled every

2612
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 1: single play the whole game. And you know, again it's

2613
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 1: or or definitely at a disadvantage now because we don't

2614
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 1: have our signal guy and everyone else has theirs. So

2615
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, it goes back to that cat cat mouse game.

2616
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 1: So you've not become the mouse in every situation. Yeah,

2617
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 1: unless you make sure you signal second. So and there's

2618
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: we didn't make sure we're doing that if or not.

2619
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you see out of Michigan this year?

2620
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 4: Is I mean outside of not having a quarterback, well, you.

2621
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 1: Have fifteen guys or whatever that we lost the league, right,

2622
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 1: Like that's not easy? Yeah, okay, and then you lose

2623
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 1: your strength coach, your entire defensive staff. You know, you're

2624
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 1: obviously your head coach. It's it's gonna be a step back,

2625
02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's not it's not that easy to maintain

2626
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 1: success when you when when that happens. Yeah, I think. Uh,

2627
02:08:57,560 --> 02:09:01,080
Speaker 1: I watched your video yesterday. You know, I'm still optimistic too,

2628
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:02,880
Speaker 1: and I.

2629
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 3: Told you not to watch. I told nobody to watch

2630
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 3: correct for people just.

2631
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 1: To have correct I heard someone else watching it stole that. Ye,

2632
02:09:13,720 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think well won the bye

2633
02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:20,720
Speaker 1: week couldn't come in any better time, well timed bye week.

2634
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of parody in college football this year,

2635
02:09:28,120 --> 02:09:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, that must be a product of nil

2636
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 1: and the portal in full effect now. But you know,

2637
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 1: other than Texas and I mean, I guess Ohio State

2638
02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 1: that they beat they did beat Iowa, But has anyone

2639
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 1: else looked really good every single week? Right?

2640
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 4: In your opinion, you feel like because you were on

2641
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 4: that side of it, you were also in recruiting. Do

2642
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 4: you feel like Michigan is doing what they need to

2643
02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 4: do in the whole portal game with the nil and

2644
02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:57,200
Speaker 4: everything else.

2645
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the issue at the portal that a

2646
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:03,320
Speaker 1: lot of people are voicing their opinions now and they're

2647
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:06,840
Speaker 1: upset about you know, why did we not get someone

2648
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 1: at this position in that position? Well, the portal was

2649
02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:15,840
Speaker 1: closed by the time, Like, something's got to happen in

2650
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 1: college football because if you make the playoffs, you are

2651
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:23,200
Speaker 1: screwed for the portal for the following season because the

2652
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 1: portal time frame is while you're prepping for the playoffs.

2653
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 1: So your players aren't announcing if they're leaving or not.

2654
02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 1: So how do you recruit a guy and convince him

2655
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:37,120
Speaker 1: to come to Michigan when that guy, for all he knows, like, well,

2656
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:40,720
Speaker 1: so and so isn't leaving, And how do you tell him, Oh,

2657
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 1: he is going to leave? But then what if he

2658
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:46,280
Speaker 1: doesn't leave, you know, And that's not that's not on

2659
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 1: a kid either, Like like JJ for example, you can't

2660
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 1: expect him to make an announcement during the playoffs about

2661
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 1: if he's going to go to the league.

2662
02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 4: Right.

2663
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:59,160
Speaker 1: He's not thinking about that, right, He's just in the moment,

2664
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:01,400
Speaker 1: and that's that's who he is, right And that's also

2665
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 1: who he should be for the team in that moment.

2666
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 1: But he's not. Yeah, I mean, maybe there's backdoor conversations

2667
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:08,800
Speaker 1: with his family, but he's not going to make some

2668
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 1: announcement saying, you know, hey, I'm gonna leave after this game.

2669
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 1: So that's an issue. The timing of everything, because then

2670
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, are they students or are they athletes?

2671
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 1: Because the semester starting in January is really what why

2672
02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 1: the portal from my understanding, why the portal closes at

2673
02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:30,840
Speaker 1: that time and then it just opens up for a

2674
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 1: couple of days. But everyone that you would want.

2675
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:38,400
Speaker 3: Is all the all the best players are gone. Now

2676
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 3: you're getting the tier two, two or three guys.

2677
02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:45,200
Speaker 1: So you know, Sharon is definitely the man for the job.

2678
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 1: He is an elite leader. Everyone loves him. Great dude

2679
02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 1: loves football. Like I remember, you know, if it's one

2680
02:11:56,320 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 1: a m. And you're on your grind watching film, whatever

2681
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 1: you're doing, and you go to the bathroom or you

2682
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:06,240
Speaker 1: go get water whatever and come back. And he was

2683
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:08,720
Speaker 1: always one of the like three people that were there

2684
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 1: that late. Still yes, still about it, all about it.

2685
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:16,040
Speaker 3: So, I mean, it seems like we're gonna they're gonna

2686
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 3: have a chance to do the portal this year, not

2687
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:20,000
Speaker 3: making the playoffs.

2688
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 4: If they don't make the playoffs, correct, we'll have time, Correct,

2689
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:25,880
Speaker 4: we'll be able to reload for next year, is what

2690
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:29,360
Speaker 4: you're saying. Correct, Now, is anybody sitting in the seat

2691
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 4: you were sitting in last year at Michigan.

2692
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 1: Now they don't have that anymore with the signals, Yeah,

2693
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:35,040
Speaker 1: not to my knowledge.

2694
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 4: What else outside of signals? Obviously you're known for being

2695
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:40,920
Speaker 4: the signal master, but I think everyone understands that, Like

2696
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 4: signal stealing is like you're trying to gain whatever advantage

2697
02:12:44,480 --> 02:12:48,320
Speaker 4: you can. Like every every locker room, every meeting I've

2698
02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:50,120
Speaker 4: been in, you're trying to break down whether it's coaches

2699
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:53,080
Speaker 4: copy or TV copies. You got somebody up there giving

2700
02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:55,840
Speaker 4: a presentation on signals. Whether whatever you do with it

2701
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:57,879
Speaker 4: is ultimately up to you, depends on how much information

2702
02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:00,560
Speaker 4: you can retain. But what else outside of the spectrum

2703
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:02,960
Speaker 4: of signals was kind of like your bread and butter?

2704
02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 4: Was it like two minute drills or situations in there?

2705
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, you know, one of the beauties at Michigan,

2706
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:15,120
Speaker 1: coach Harbaugh hired a great staff to recruit great players,

2707
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:20,480
Speaker 1: and he just empowered his staff, So there was a

2708
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 1: lot of overlap between. Like you know, it wasn't like

2709
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 1: if on paper, I'm a recruiting guy, I wasn't only

2710
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:31,720
Speaker 1: doing recruiting right, or or if you're a defensive analyst,

2711
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:36,400
Speaker 1: you're not only breaking down third down or people helping

2712
02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:39,520
Speaker 1: each other out a lot, filling in gaps when needed.

2713
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:43,920
Speaker 1: But during the season it was you know, a little

2714
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 1: bit of recruiting mostly. You know, I was in every

2715
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 1: defensive staff meeting. You know, you're game planning. I'm breaking

2716
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 1: down film prepping linebacker meetings for coach Partridge, so you know,

2717
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:00,960
Speaker 1: because it's it's a race, right like every The thing

2718
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:03,320
Speaker 1: that people don't realize is every I know, you guys

2719
02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:08,960
Speaker 1: realize it, but from Sunday morning to kick off on Saturday,

2720
02:14:09,640 --> 02:14:14,120
Speaker 1: it's literally who can prepare faster than their opponent. And

2721
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, the linebacker coach, for example, should not be

2722
02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:22,280
Speaker 1: the guy that is going in and finding the specific

2723
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:25,360
Speaker 1: clips for the meeting. He's the one coaching the clips

2724
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:28,240
Speaker 1: you are going through. Like so I would go through

2725
02:14:28,280 --> 02:14:32,160
Speaker 1: the film and pick out, you know, what he wanted

2726
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 1: for the linebacker meeting for example, stuff like that, and

2727
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:39,200
Speaker 1: also breaking down opponents, so like I was mentioning that

2728
02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:42,520
Speaker 1: formation tendency stuff like that, you know, because every so

2729
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:46,000
Speaker 1: like you know, Monday for the linebackers might be you know,

2730
02:14:46,040 --> 02:14:48,440
Speaker 1: first and second down, what do they do on first

2731
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:52,680
Speaker 1: and second down? Tuesdays may be you know, a short

2732
02:14:52,760 --> 02:14:56,520
Speaker 1: yardage goal line Wednesdays might be third and long whatever

2733
02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:58,840
Speaker 1: it is, however, you break that down, and so I

2734
02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:04,800
Speaker 1: would prepare the meetings for the backers, you know, every day,

2735
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,840
Speaker 1: and then you know the signal stuff because that was

2736
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 1: again you know, it was just a portion of the job.

2737
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:16,320
Speaker 1: Is something I just did anytime I didn't have, like

2738
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:19,240
Speaker 1: I had some free time to Okay, we're done prepping

2739
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:22,760
Speaker 1: for linebacker meetings practices in an hour, I'm gonna I'm

2740
02:15:22,760 --> 02:15:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna crank out an hour of this and then I

2741
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 1: try to finish that by Tuesdays usually Wednesday, and then

2742
02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:34,160
Speaker 1: give myself two days to memorize everything, memorize my sheet,

2743
02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, feel comfortable with it, and you know the

2744
02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:42,120
Speaker 1: tough part. It's this goes for everyone though, right because again,

2745
02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:45,640
Speaker 1: you play your opponent and then you're done. So for me,

2746
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:50,440
Speaker 1: it was play your opponent. I'm not I'm not kidding.

2747
02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 1: Maybe with the exception of like Ohio State and Michigan State,

2748
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:56,160
Speaker 1: I might remember a few, but an hour after the game,

2749
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:58,200
Speaker 1: I could not tell you a single signal that I

2750
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:03,760
Speaker 1: just member for that game because it's onto whoever, right,

2751
02:16:04,080 --> 02:16:06,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't care about as president as possible, Yes,

2752
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:09,920
Speaker 1: so and usually I would try to get a couple

2753
02:16:09,880 --> 02:16:14,040
Speaker 1: of days ahead, So like if I fit, let's just say, uh,

2754
02:16:15,480 --> 02:16:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, let's say I were there now and we're

2755
02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:19,040
Speaker 1: playing Illinois in a couple of weeks after the bye

2756
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:22,440
Speaker 1: and then who's after them, Michigan State. Yeah, so I

2757
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 1: would try to finish Illinois. Well, pretend there's no bye week,

2758
02:16:25,560 --> 02:16:27,840
Speaker 1: Pretend we're in Illinois week right now. I would try

2759
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:31,839
Speaker 1: to finish them by Tuesday, maybe Wednesday at the latest,

2760
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:37,840
Speaker 1: and then by Thursday morning. It's like two separate mind

2761
02:16:37,879 --> 02:16:42,560
Speaker 1: frames where one I am calmly memorizing my sheet for

2762
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:46,240
Speaker 1: the Illinois game and also getting ahead with Michigan State

2763
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:48,720
Speaker 1: so I can finish them by the following Tuesday, because

2764
02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:50,400
Speaker 1: I always want to give myself a couple of days

2765
02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:53,160
Speaker 1: to because I'm sure everyone does, you know, for everything

2766
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:56,200
Speaker 1: they do, whether it be coordinating a play calling or

2767
02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:59,039
Speaker 1: coaching your position or being an actual player, like you

2768
02:16:59,080 --> 02:17:00,600
Speaker 1: want at least have. You don't want to be like

2769
02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:03,760
Speaker 1: racing all the way up until kickoff and your mind's

2770
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:07,400
Speaker 1: going a thousand different directions. So that is kind of

2771
02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:09,440
Speaker 1: how I scheduled everything for myself.

2772
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,840
Speaker 3: When you so like during the week, you say, like Yeah,

2773
02:17:12,879 --> 02:17:14,520
Speaker 3: Like in the league, it would be like Wednesday would

2774
02:17:14,520 --> 02:17:16,840
Speaker 3: be like first and second down, Thursday would be ye

2775
02:17:17,560 --> 02:17:20,720
Speaker 3: all third downs, yeah then yeah, then the red zone

2776
02:17:20,720 --> 02:17:23,200
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But we'd have assistant coaches like

2777
02:17:23,240 --> 02:17:25,959
Speaker 3: Mike Sullivan would always break down front the entire offense.

2778
02:17:26,320 --> 02:17:28,480
Speaker 3: These are the blitzes these teams do. Did you ever

2779
02:17:29,000 --> 02:17:30,840
Speaker 3: get to sit in front of the entire defense?

2780
02:17:30,879 --> 02:17:35,279
Speaker 1: And no, because I was an analyst and up until

2781
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:40,440
Speaker 1: this year, uh, analysts could not do like on field

2782
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:43,520
Speaker 1: and you know, could not instruct players or anything like that.

2783
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:47,720
Speaker 1: You could only assist the coaches. So I would prepare

2784
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:51,000
Speaker 1: like I would help coach Partridge for example, you know

2785
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:53,199
Speaker 1: if he had short yardage goal line, I would help

2786
02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:57,680
Speaker 1: him prepare the clips for that and the organization of

2787
02:17:57,800 --> 02:17:58,320
Speaker 1: that meeting.

2788
02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, are there there are a couple of defensive players

2789
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:05,640
Speaker 4: that gravitated towards all the information and knowledge you had

2790
02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:05,920
Speaker 4: of the.

2791
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:10,360
Speaker 1: X's and o's. I mean, the.

2792
02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:11,480
Speaker 4: Guys that understand it in the.

2793
02:18:11,480 --> 02:18:13,720
Speaker 1: D H A lot of the players, I mean, even

2794
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:19,720
Speaker 1: like Mikey Sanders still is uh. I mean, I've I've

2795
02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 1: learned some of the defense from him. You know, like

2796
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:24,360
Speaker 1: some of these you know, these guys are really smart,

2797
02:18:24,440 --> 02:18:28,960
Speaker 1: great leaders. He's Mikey's probably the best non military leader

2798
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:34,360
Speaker 1: I've ever been around. Really, Yes, he is. Uh, he's

2799
02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:36,240
Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, you know, he started as a

2800
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:41,520
Speaker 1: receiver and then yeah, flashbacks, he had that nice catch,

2801
02:18:41,560 --> 02:18:45,560
Speaker 1: that diving catch in Lincoln, Nebraska that night game as

2802
02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:49,560
Speaker 1: a receiver, and then the very next year changes to

2803
02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:51,680
Speaker 1: nickel and he's our starting nickel and one of the

2804
02:18:51,720 --> 02:18:55,320
Speaker 1: best Nickels in the country. Just like that. But I mean,

2805
02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 1: he's a guy that he led by example and he

2806
02:18:58,120 --> 02:19:01,440
Speaker 1: was not afraid to check anyone. But I mean I

2807
02:19:01,480 --> 02:19:03,440
Speaker 1: was close with a lot of the players because it

2808
02:19:03,520 --> 02:19:04,800
Speaker 1: is like a brotherhood. You know. I was what like

2809
02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:06,959
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, twenty one years old at the time,

2810
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:09,840
Speaker 1: and they're anywhere from eighteen to twenty three, So I'm

2811
02:19:09,879 --> 02:19:12,880
Speaker 1: closer in age to them than they are to the coach,

2812
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:17,480
Speaker 1: like the full time coaches. So yeah, I was pretty

2813
02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:20,560
Speaker 1: close with the majority of the team. It truly was

2814
02:19:20,680 --> 02:19:27,400
Speaker 1: like a family atmosphere where I mean everyone got along

2815
02:19:27,440 --> 02:19:31,040
Speaker 1: with everyone, And that goes back to coach Harbaugh hiring

2816
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:35,080
Speaker 1: a great staff and that great staff recruiting just the

2817
02:19:35,160 --> 02:19:35,720
Speaker 1: right people.

2818
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:38,879
Speaker 3: I know, we're getting kind of close to that hour

2819
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:42,519
Speaker 3: thirty mark right now. I had a question about EXOS,

2820
02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:47,200
Speaker 3: and I heard a rumor that there was pirrating videos

2821
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:52,160
Speaker 3: going on from Exos, the film company that was actually pirrating,

2822
02:19:52,280 --> 02:19:55,600
Speaker 3: taking Michigan's practice film and giving it to other Big

2823
02:19:55,640 --> 02:19:57,480
Speaker 3: Ten teams. Do you have any knowledge of that at all?

2824
02:19:59,480 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, oh what Exo's role would be or

2825
02:20:04,480 --> 02:20:08,480
Speaker 1: allegedly and that is allegedly. Yeah, well, most most teams, yeah,

2826
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:15,119
Speaker 1: have have Exos. There's DV sport too. All I'll say

2827
02:20:15,320 --> 02:20:22,000
Speaker 1: is I have seen other Big Ten schools signals. I'm

2828
02:20:22,040 --> 02:20:24,560
Speaker 1: talking the original signal film that was fit like a

2829
02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 1: ga doing the signals in the quarterback room right like

2830
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:33,440
Speaker 1: the players would have on catapult to study. I've seen

2831
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:39,920
Speaker 1: other teams signals of that that. The people who showed

2832
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:46,039
Speaker 1: me that claim they got it from Ohio State. Oh interesting,

2833
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 1: I've seen that with my own eyes. So people that

2834
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:53,440
Speaker 1: have the play calls, like Ohio State for example, may

2835
02:20:53,480 --> 02:20:59,439
Speaker 1: have traded that to someone for a different team's signals

2836
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:04,440
Speaker 1: or whatnot, and that someone may have may have shown me. Dude,

2837
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:07,440
Speaker 1: you better be careful because look at what they got.

2838
02:21:07,640 --> 02:21:11,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, they made you aware of correct, yes,

2839
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:13,680
Speaker 3: and that's probably illegal, right.

2840
02:21:14,959 --> 02:21:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer.

2841
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:24,400
Speaker 4: I have a question your manifesto, what what was the

2842
02:21:24,400 --> 02:21:27,119
Speaker 4: foundation of it? Like for you philosophy wise, like, how

2843
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:29,680
Speaker 4: did you start building out the manifesto? Obviously from military

2844
02:21:29,720 --> 02:21:31,920
Speaker 4: background you talked about the coaches in the past, but

2845
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:33,680
Speaker 4: you yourself putting this thing together?

2846
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:38,320
Speaker 1: What foundation was it built off of the best way

2847
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:43,880
Speaker 1: to explain that is it's organized how I would organize

2848
02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 1: a football program, which is very military like in like

2849
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:52,120
Speaker 1: a chain of command, like a staff org chart, you know,

2850
02:21:52,280 --> 02:21:55,600
Speaker 1: or usually in groups of three, where like you have

2851
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:59,840
Speaker 1: the head coach and headquarters, and then under them you

2852
02:22:00,120 --> 02:22:05,920
Speaker 1: have the football staff, the operations staff, and so on.

2853
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:10,960
Speaker 1: Within the football staff, that would be like anything related

2854
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:13,880
Speaker 1: to football itself. So I grew break that into three

2855
02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:20,200
Speaker 1: different categories. Personnel, so scouting, recruiting, the actual x's and

2856
02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:23,240
Speaker 1: O so often stephen special teams, and then player performance,

2857
02:22:23,360 --> 02:22:27,840
Speaker 1: which is strain the conditioning, you know, trainers and stuff

2858
02:22:27,879 --> 02:22:31,360
Speaker 1: like that, nutrition, and then each of those has a

2859
02:22:31,400 --> 02:22:33,920
Speaker 1: broken down subcategory. So if you gave me a thought

2860
02:22:33,959 --> 02:22:37,879
Speaker 1: on like, hey, I saw this really good thing that

2861
02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:42,400
Speaker 1: such and such a school was doing with their nutrition program.

2862
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:46,160
Speaker 1: I would just go boom bom, boom boom, there's a

2863
02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:48,959
Speaker 1: nutrition section, and I got all my organized notes and

2864
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:51,720
Speaker 1: I'd put it in there. And if you were asked,

2865
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:53,480
Speaker 1: if you were to ask me, how would you run

2866
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:58,240
Speaker 1: your how would the logistics work for your operations department?

2867
02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:02,720
Speaker 1: Give me five seconds, I'll show you boom boom boom,

2868
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:06,959
Speaker 1: and then there's all my notes on that. And that's

2869
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:11,680
Speaker 1: kind of you know, it's just it's a really good book,

2870
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:18,200
Speaker 1: Getting Things Done, by David Allen. It's about how in

2871
02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:23,000
Speaker 1: order to actually apply something that you learn or see,

2872
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:27,320
Speaker 1: or whether it be a quote or you know, something

2873
02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:30,320
Speaker 1: from a book, something from a movie, something from a conversation,

2874
02:23:31,080 --> 02:23:34,840
Speaker 1: you have to first be able to capture it, so

2875
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:38,640
Speaker 1: write it down. Then you have to take that captured

2876
02:23:38,680 --> 02:23:42,240
Speaker 1: thought and be able to organize it. That's like my

2877
02:23:42,400 --> 02:23:46,560
Speaker 1: organized notes, the Michigan Manifesto, and then you have to

2878
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:50,800
Speaker 1: be able to reference it though. So that's why that's

2879
02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:53,680
Speaker 1: the beauty of if you're super organized, then I can

2880
02:23:53,720 --> 02:23:56,520
Speaker 1: always go back to that, like, for example, if I

2881
02:23:56,600 --> 02:24:00,200
Speaker 1: read a book on leadership, for example, there might be

2882
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:05,680
Speaker 1: a quote about something that's not necessarily specifically you know, leadership.

2883
02:24:05,720 --> 02:24:10,880
Speaker 1: It might be about there could be a football some

2884
02:24:11,360 --> 02:24:15,680
Speaker 1: football quote or something, and you got to be able

2885
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:19,440
Speaker 1: to every time I read a book, I read the book,

2886
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:22,640
Speaker 1: take all my notes, and then I go through the

2887
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:25,760
Speaker 1: book again and everything I highlighted or underlined or wrote,

2888
02:24:26,360 --> 02:24:31,160
Speaker 1: I put that where it belongs in the manifesto, so

2889
02:24:31,240 --> 02:24:33,240
Speaker 1: then I can reference it without having to remember what

2890
02:24:33,240 --> 02:24:36,160
Speaker 1: book was that from. It was a quote about football,

2891
02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:38,720
Speaker 1: but it was in a leadership book. Like no, I

2892
02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:41,360
Speaker 1: just go to the football section and there's the quote.

2893
02:24:41,520 --> 02:24:44,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't dream to be this organized. I could not.

2894
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:47,000
Speaker 1: And the beauty of it, too is I can talk

2895
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:50,720
Speaker 1: about that. You know, probably never give away the Michigan Manifesto,

2896
02:24:50,840 --> 02:24:53,400
Speaker 1: but I can talk about it and no one will

2897
02:24:53,440 --> 02:24:57,119
Speaker 1: be able to duplicate it because I'm already fifteen years ahead,

2898
02:24:57,400 --> 02:25:00,360
Speaker 1: right right, How luck?

2899
02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:07,720
Speaker 4: How did it develop over the years from the organization?

2900
02:25:08,320 --> 02:25:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? And and it's a Google doc now, and

2901
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:13,000
Speaker 1: you say, like, how many pages is it? I can't

2902
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:16,760
Speaker 1: give you an exact exact number because I found this

2903
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,040
Speaker 1: out the hard way. A Google doc can't go over

2904
02:25:19,160 --> 02:25:22,680
Speaker 1: a thousand pages, so it's multiple Google.

2905
02:25:22,400 --> 02:25:27,880
Speaker 10: Docs, no ship, dude, Yeah, God, how often do you

2906
02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:29,320
Speaker 10: go back and read and be like, Okay, this is

2907
02:25:29,320 --> 02:25:32,520
Speaker 10: different now, this is different now nutrition for instance, if

2908
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:34,520
Speaker 10: you take something five years ago someone said about.

2909
02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Nutrition, it's just it's ongoing. It's ongoing, and I usually

2910
02:25:38,840 --> 02:25:43,440
Speaker 1: I try to visit it at least weekly, try to daily.

2911
02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:45,800
Speaker 1: But you know, like if you know I've been traveling

2912
02:25:45,840 --> 02:25:47,360
Speaker 1: last few days, I haven't. You know, I haven't been

2913
02:25:47,360 --> 02:25:49,360
Speaker 1: on it. But what I do, Like so at the

2914
02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:53,160
Speaker 1: Michigan Washington game, during the game, I have my notes up,

2915
02:25:53,480 --> 02:25:56,920
Speaker 1: not the actual Google docs, but just my notes app

2916
02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:00,480
Speaker 1: and I'm just taking notes on everything I see, Like, oh,

2917
02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:02,720
Speaker 1: I was at the Seahawks game Sunday too, you know,

2918
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 1: So anytime I'm at a game or watching a game

2919
02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:07,600
Speaker 1: and I see a play I like or you know,

2920
02:26:07,720 --> 02:26:13,960
Speaker 1: situation like you know, this is bad flashbacks. But twenty

2921
02:26:14,440 --> 02:26:19,000
Speaker 1: eleven fourth and inches in East Lansing and we were

2922
02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:22,039
Speaker 1: in to playfake and you know, I just remembered that

2923
02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:25,640
Speaker 1: yesterday watching I think the Seahawks Giants game, thinking like,

2924
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, fourth and inches. If I'm ever a coordinator,

2925
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to call player the quarterbacks back is

2926
02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:34,040
Speaker 1: to the defense and fourth and inches unless he's given

2927
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:37,560
Speaker 1: the ball, but it's just so risky. But like, so anyway,

2928
02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, that just triggered that thought from twenty eleven.

2929
02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:42,400
Speaker 1: So I write that down in my notes, and then

2930
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:46,240
Speaker 1: tonight when I get back, I will put that exactly

2931
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:49,320
Speaker 1: where it belongs to the manifesto. So then whenever I'm

2932
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:51,879
Speaker 1: a coordinator, I already have that in the fourth and

2933
02:26:51,879 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 1: short section to always reference and remind myself your.

2934
02:26:56,360 --> 02:27:00,600
Speaker 3: Memory is shaky. The manifesto? Did you give the name manifesto?

2935
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:07,080
Speaker 1: So that was it was just like my notes, And

2936
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:10,080
Speaker 1: I think it was during COVID when people didn't know

2937
02:27:10,120 --> 02:27:12,800
Speaker 1: if football was going to be happening or not. And

2938
02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:16,080
Speaker 1: a couple buddies of mine and I had these zooms

2939
02:27:16,200 --> 02:27:20,080
Speaker 1: just talking ball stand fresh in football, and uh, I

2940
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:23,360
Speaker 1: remember kind of introducing it to one of them and

2941
02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:26,520
Speaker 1: he's like, this is like a manifesto, and so we

2942
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:31,200
Speaker 1: just kind of jokingly called it the Michigan Manifesto and then, uh,

2943
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the media ran with it. Dave ran

2944
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:36,480
Speaker 1: with it, and I guess I now have to call

2945
02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:42,480
Speaker 1: it the Michigan manifestoos.

2946
02:27:40,560 --> 02:27:41,240
Speaker 4: If you've got to.

2947
02:27:41,440 --> 02:27:43,880
Speaker 3: Whenever you've decided, like I'm done doing the manifesto you

2948
02:27:43,879 --> 02:27:45,960
Speaker 3: need to print that out hard copy and then just

2949
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:47,400
Speaker 3: frame it somewhere, just a book.

2950
02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:51,640
Speaker 1: But there's never an end to the Michigan Manifesto. How

2951
02:27:51,680 --> 02:27:54,040
Speaker 1: could that was a dumb statement and you win a

2952
02:27:54,120 --> 02:27:56,720
Speaker 1: national champions there's already a section in there. You know,

2953
02:27:56,840 --> 02:27:58,840
Speaker 1: this is like a sabanism, right, like where you.

2954
02:27:58,760 --> 02:28:00,680
Speaker 4: Can start doing it like encyclop You gonna have like

2955
02:28:00,680 --> 02:28:01,440
Speaker 4: a volume one.

2956
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I already have nine volumes, do you? He said,

2957
02:28:06,120 --> 02:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I already have nine volume Are you just doing AI

2958
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:09,840
Speaker 1: up here?

2959
02:28:09,920 --> 02:28:13,880
Speaker 3: From she's just been popping up different AI AI pictures

2960
02:28:13,879 --> 02:28:14,680
Speaker 3: that he's decided to make.

2961
02:28:14,800 --> 02:28:18,959
Speaker 1: I mean you saw you saw the recruiting the scouting

2962
02:28:19,040 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 1: map in the documentary? Yeah, did you see that?

2963
02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:24,279
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a map of the United States.

2964
02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:26,119
Speaker 3: It's where every single draft pick.

2965
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:28,879
Speaker 1: Right, every draft pick. So basically what I did was

2966
02:28:30,520 --> 02:28:32,720
Speaker 1: again I can say this because well, you know, you

2967
02:28:32,720 --> 02:28:35,120
Speaker 1: could probably hires some AI or you could do whatever

2968
02:28:35,160 --> 02:28:37,680
Speaker 1: now and probably catch you up on this. But it's

2969
02:28:37,760 --> 02:28:39,400
Speaker 1: just the concept. This is just one of you know,

2970
02:28:39,560 --> 02:28:42,720
Speaker 1: hundreds of concepts in the manifesto where you know, people

2971
02:28:42,720 --> 02:28:46,000
Speaker 1: always talk about states, like what's the best state for recruiting?

2972
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:48,840
Speaker 1: Is it Georgia, is it Florida, is it Texas? Is

2973
02:28:48,879 --> 02:28:51,160
Speaker 1: it California? And I just kind of realized, why are

2974
02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:53,480
Speaker 1: we talking about states? It's literally something that Lewis and

2975
02:28:53,480 --> 02:28:57,520
Speaker 1: Clark drew back in the eighteen hundreds. Why would you

2976
02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:01,080
Speaker 1: recruit based on some state boundary that were drawn a

2977
02:29:01,080 --> 02:29:03,440
Speaker 1: couple hundred years ago. So what I did was I

2978
02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:07,200
Speaker 1: plotted every single draft pick. I took the Google map

2979
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:09,560
Speaker 1: layer like off where you couldn't even tell where you were,

2980
02:29:09,560 --> 02:29:11,760
Speaker 1: and I just plotted everyone, and then I just drew

2981
02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:17,320
Speaker 1: my own little regions around where the mass people were

2982
02:29:18,080 --> 02:29:22,039
Speaker 1: and just kind of went from there, because like you know,

2983
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:29,199
Speaker 1: when people say Florida is great, well it's mostly Fort Lauderdale, Miami.

2984
02:29:30,120 --> 02:29:35,800
Speaker 1: Right when people say California, it's mostly LA and the

2985
02:29:35,840 --> 02:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Bay Area, Texas mainly Dallas, Houston. Yes, there are certain

2986
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:43,560
Speaker 1: states like Georgia and Texas where it is more spread out,

2987
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:46,280
Speaker 1: but I just kind of figured, you know why, and

2988
02:29:46,320 --> 02:29:48,320
Speaker 1: it's my position too. Now, I'm not going to give

2989
02:29:48,320 --> 02:29:55,039
Speaker 1: away which positions in which sub regions are worth recruiting

2990
02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:59,200
Speaker 1: more than others, but yeah, there's definitely like certain regions

2991
02:29:59,200 --> 02:30:01,959
Speaker 1: are hotbeds for certain positions So what's the best state

2992
02:30:02,000 --> 02:30:02,600
Speaker 1: for recruiting?

2993
02:30:04,040 --> 02:30:04,960
Speaker 4: What's the best region?

2994
02:30:05,640 --> 02:30:08,920
Speaker 1: Region? Miami? Miami is the best region.

2995
02:30:09,480 --> 02:30:11,480
Speaker 4: How's Arizona? How does Arizona hold up?

2996
02:30:13,240 --> 02:30:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you weren't there, then it wouldn't be

2997
02:30:16,600 --> 02:30:17,120
Speaker 1: as great.

2998
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Speaker 3: That is exactly how I wanted you to answer that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think Georgia is probably the best

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Speaker 1: you're closed to a player that's been drafted.

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Speaker 4: I like that. Yeah, it's it's extremely informative. I've loved

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Speaker 11: I don't think that was necessary, all right? This twisted

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Speaker 11: Your best Big ten super team versus your best SEC superteam?

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Speaker 11: Who's on it? And who is winning?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:57,400
Speaker 4: I could be the wrong person ask here because I can't.

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02:31:57,640 --> 02:31:59,160
Speaker 4: It's like I can sit here and think of all

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Speaker 4: the players, Like justin you know one of the nineties

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Speaker 4: Nebraska teams. I think you're gonna be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But is that a Big ten team though they are now? Yeah,

3039
02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:09,560
Speaker 1: but they weren't Big ten, right?

3040
02:32:09,640 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 4: They weren't ten then?

3041
02:32:11,160 --> 02:32:13,400
Speaker 1: All right, So let's start at quarterback. Who's representing the

3042
02:32:13,400 --> 02:32:16,480
Speaker 1: Big ten we're completely creating our team from scratch. We're

3043
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:18,320
Speaker 1: not saying, like Georgia twenty one.

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Speaker 11: Your creat you like picking players.

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02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough.

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02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a that's a very long winded, twisted question.

3047
02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Can we we just gotta go like the best O line,

3048
02:32:27,879 --> 02:32:29,880
Speaker 1: the best receiver corps?

3049
02:32:29,920 --> 02:32:33,520
Speaker 3: Maybe Okay, let's just start with you ten, all right,

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Speaker 3: big ten quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I mean you're using one of the Michigan ones recently, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Line, Yeah, twenty two, Michigan twenty twenty two, Michigan O

3053
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Speaker 1: line twenty three. Man, they didn't technically didn't win. We

3054
02:32:48,959 --> 02:32:51,680
Speaker 1: we didn't win the Joe Morroward last year, but that

3055
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:53,080
Speaker 1: was probably because they just felt back because we won

3056
02:32:53,120 --> 02:32:55,320
Speaker 1: it twice in a row, first time we ever won

3057
02:32:55,400 --> 02:32:56,040
Speaker 1: it twice in a row.

3058
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Speaker 4: But that I would say that, I could say that

3059
02:32:58,480 --> 02:32:59,240
Speaker 4: a line I get my.

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Speaker 1: Good last year? What are we working on this together?

3061
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have to.

3062
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Speaker 1: There's no way the three of us are gonna do.

3063
02:33:04,879 --> 02:33:05,039
Speaker 11: Uh.

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02:33:05,080 --> 02:33:07,600
Speaker 1: So we'll say that old line. I hate Santas, but

3065
02:33:07,720 --> 02:33:10,080
Speaker 1: it's gotta be one of the Ohio State receiving corps recently.

3066
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:14,920
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, with old Mormon Harrison Jr. I mean, well,

3067
02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:16,760
Speaker 4: if you're gonna pick them, then you gotta pick Michigan's

3068
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:17,400
Speaker 4: DBS though.

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02:33:18,560 --> 02:33:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, so we're just a hot state in Michigan

3070
02:33:21,360 --> 02:33:21,720
Speaker 1: so far.

3071
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:27,000
Speaker 4: So what's that CJ. Stroud might be.

3072
02:33:29,440 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 1: But this is all time, I do you know? I

3073
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:39,520
Speaker 1: respect c J. Good guy. He didn't beat Michigan though,

3074
02:33:39,720 --> 02:33:42,000
Speaker 1: he didn't beat Michigan. Couldn't beat Michigan.

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Speaker 6: See J. T.

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Speaker 1: Barrett. Yeah, they had three, they had Dwayne, all three

3077
02:33:52,160 --> 02:33:53,800
Speaker 1: of those guys right back to back to back.

3078
02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is way harder than I expected it to be.

3079
02:33:57,720 --> 02:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Troy Smith to you wanna put that tight.

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Speaker 4: End, Pappy, you grab the you can do the SEC team?

3081
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Speaker 1: Are they keeping track of this? You got you gotta

3082
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:11,800
Speaker 1: have Joe Burrow. No, I don't know Cam Newton though

3083
02:34:11,800 --> 02:34:17,800
Speaker 1: his twenty ten season. Yeah, superman, Johnny.

3084
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Speaker 4: You guys do the SEC. We'll do the Big ten

3085
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Speaker 4: all time. Yeah, the number one greatest running back of

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02:34:31,280 --> 02:34:33,760
Speaker 4: all time and the Big ten. I'm looking at Archie

3087
02:34:33,800 --> 02:34:40,360
Speaker 4: Griffin Ohio State. Yeah, that's big. That's big for the

3088
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Speaker 4: Big ten. Okay, so we'll take him, We'll take him.

3089
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Speaker 4: Let me look at uh, I'll do line. I'm gonna

3090
02:34:51,440 --> 02:34:56,959
Speaker 4: do linebackers. Oh, I'm almost assuming, like again.

3091
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Speaker 1: And is this is this while they were in college? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe we just do a defense because for linebackers,

3093
02:35:04,480 --> 02:35:06,880
Speaker 4: you you can always pick like a like a pension squad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, when they had uh, but you probably want

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Speaker 3: to Harrington Michigan defense.

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Speaker 1: If you're going full defense. Yeah, if you're going full defense,

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Speaker 1: I mean, hello, man, mhm.

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Speaker 4: This is a way harder question than I wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, should we pass? Is there a backup question?

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Speaker 4: It's just too much, just too much brain power.

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Speaker 1: All look at of all time best players, Oulton Mescoulton

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Speaker 1: Mescos were the first players I met at Michigan, and

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Speaker 1: they made like the Ray Guy, you got way too

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Speaker 1: much playing time.

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Speaker 3: Ray guy dude, he that uh that Ray door was

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02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:04,160
Speaker 3: first made in twenty two and nine. He walked out

3107
02:36:04,160 --> 02:36:05,320
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, it's big enough to wear a

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02:36:05,360 --> 02:36:07,640
Speaker 3: punter can hit it. And then firstout warming up hit

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Speaker 3: the top. It was like the most deflating the Alcalack Fieldhouse.

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Speaker 1: Why are we talking to Mumford real quick?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we talk Mumford.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll wait till these boys they.

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Speaker 4: Find out that we're punning on this So Mumford, I

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Speaker 4: mean you got Charles Woodson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what they can I guess I'm kind of just

3116
02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:25,680
Speaker 1: over the question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is little an entire episode. It is like,

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Speaker 3: let's just forgure out the best all time conference teams.

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Speaker 1: I actually have a question for him about Mumford.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, Muford. Go ahead, stick on Mumford because

3121
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Speaker 4: a question.

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Speaker 1: I won't forget about Mumford. You keep that picture up.

3123
02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna forget.

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Speaker 4: Give me three coaches you feel like you've learned the

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02:36:49,720 --> 02:36:52,680
Speaker 4: most from in real time now, like with the people

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Speaker 4: you were inspired by and everything. Yes, yeah, guys, we

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02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:09,800
Speaker 4: punted on this question, twisted question. Three coaches, three coaches

3128
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Speaker 4: he's learned the most from. Yeah, three coaches he's learned

3129
02:37:14,600 --> 02:37:18,920
Speaker 4: the most from. That's added that's added value to the manifesto,

3130
02:37:19,480 --> 02:37:20,000
Speaker 4: big value.

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Speaker 1: That's actually, yeah, that's that's probably the best way to Yeah,

3132
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Speaker 1: to ask that too.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

3134
02:37:31,720 --> 02:37:35,040
Speaker 1: Kenny amount to Lolo Navy head coach now at San

3135
02:37:35,120 --> 02:37:40,879
Speaker 1: Josis say winning as head coach NA football history. Chris

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Speaker 1: Partridge and I got two in mine For this third spot,

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02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:53,960
Speaker 1: it's either Jay Harbor or Mike McDonald, which and ironically

3138
02:37:54,320 --> 02:38:01,160
Speaker 1: all of those guys are in Seattle. I'd say, Jay,

3139
02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:02,600
Speaker 1: I've spent more time around Jay.

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Speaker 4: Those are the three that the manifesto the most.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just from observing them and and asking them questions

3142
02:38:09,800 --> 02:38:10,600
Speaker 1: and picking their brains.

3143
02:38:11,160 --> 02:38:14,280
Speaker 4: How many coaches knew you had this manifesto going, uh

3144
02:38:14,840 --> 02:38:16,920
Speaker 4: not like manifesto like fun creative?

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02:38:16,959 --> 02:38:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I actually a lot of people just

3146
02:38:18,959 --> 02:38:21,160
Speaker 1: kind of knew I was very organized and had a

3147
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:24,760
Speaker 1: bunch of notes and pulled out ideas.

3148
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:28,440
Speaker 4: Was any coach like curious, like, hey, have you been

3149
02:38:28,520 --> 02:38:29,199
Speaker 4: logging everything?

3150
02:38:29,240 --> 02:38:32,880
Speaker 1: Like, let's see this organization. I think every coach has

3151
02:38:32,959 --> 02:38:36,840
Speaker 1: their own system of notes, right, Yeah, maybe not as organized,

3152
02:38:36,879 --> 02:38:38,800
Speaker 1: but I don't think people really think about it as

3153
02:38:38,879 --> 02:38:41,959
Speaker 1: much because they just kind of write down their note now,

3154
02:38:42,760 --> 02:38:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, once they realize, wait, maybe they're interviewing for

3155
02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:47,920
Speaker 1: a next job up or whatever and they need to

3156
02:38:48,040 --> 02:38:51,879
Speaker 1: organize everything. It's that's why I go back to like vision,

3157
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:54,800
Speaker 1: the concept of vision itself, like when you picture yourself

3158
02:38:54,879 --> 02:38:57,680
Speaker 1: as that, you just start from the beginning like that,

3159
02:38:57,879 --> 02:38:59,800
Speaker 1: So you just organize everything as if you're the head

3160
02:38:59,800 --> 02:39:02,879
Speaker 1: coach coach, and then you're ready for anything.

3161
02:39:04,680 --> 02:39:07,440
Speaker 4: I love it too, man. Should we do to your talk?

3162
02:39:07,480 --> 02:39:11,680
Speaker 3: And then I have one final question we gotta get Yeah, yeah,

3163
02:39:12,200 --> 02:39:14,840
Speaker 3: let's talk about So the boys just they got.

3164
02:39:14,720 --> 02:39:17,200
Speaker 1: Themselves their first game in a long long time. Let's

3165
02:39:17,200 --> 02:39:17,440
Speaker 1: give a.

3166
02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:19,640
Speaker 3: Shout out to Monthford and we say.

3167
02:39:19,520 --> 02:39:24,480
Speaker 4: A long long like, let's check in on conversiding that

3168
02:39:24,560 --> 02:39:25,840
Speaker 4: you just took an ass whoop in like sixty.

3169
02:39:25,920 --> 02:39:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we also played like cast Tech and cash is like.

3170
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:30,400
Speaker 4: These school in Detroit.

3171
02:39:30,520 --> 02:39:33,720
Speaker 3: Okay, Mumford, he says, has been a long long time

3172
02:39:33,760 --> 02:39:34,560
Speaker 3: since you guys got a w.

3173
02:39:35,640 --> 02:39:38,480
Speaker 1: I think they won one game last year, none of

3174
02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:42,480
Speaker 1: the year before, and two the year before that, something

3175
02:39:42,520 --> 02:39:43,920
Speaker 1: like that. So you it's been rough.

3176
02:39:44,320 --> 02:39:47,000
Speaker 3: So you resigned from Michigan and Momford calls up and says, please,

3177
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:48,720
Speaker 3: for the love of God, do something for us.

3178
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:50,560
Speaker 4: That is that how it happened.

3179
02:39:50,800 --> 02:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Uh, I know the head coach, and he asked if

3180
02:39:54,120 --> 02:39:56,039
Speaker 1: I wanted to be to DC. And then it's kind

3181
02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:57,880
Speaker 1: of evolved. We only have like four coaches.

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02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:01,440
Speaker 4: So and you're thinking yourself, what a Allen? No doubt?

3183
02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:07,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. How has the defense gotten better

3184
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:11,000
Speaker 1: since you've gotten there? Uh? Yeah, we all kind of

3185
02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:17,320
Speaker 1: coach everything. So I'm coaching all sides of the ball. Yeah, yeah,

3186
02:40:17,879 --> 02:40:21,880
Speaker 1: and uh, for example, we have two offensive linemen in

3187
02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:27,120
Speaker 1: the entire program. No ship to yep, So.

3188
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:33,280
Speaker 4: Well you have two players it's play offensive line in

3189
02:40:33,320 --> 02:40:34,000
Speaker 4: the entire program.

3190
02:40:34,360 --> 02:40:37,440
Speaker 1: We have two true offensive linemen. So like our tight

3191
02:40:37,560 --> 02:40:44,240
Speaker 1: end Norman Adams shout out, shoutouts, Norman could be a

3192
02:40:44,480 --> 02:40:46,720
Speaker 1: very recruitable tight end. Had had to take one for

3193
02:40:46,800 --> 02:40:51,560
Speaker 1: the team, and he's our left tackle. It gets better, guys,

3194
02:40:51,760 --> 02:40:56,720
Speaker 1: it gets Johnson lane Johnson happened him are so last week?

3195
02:40:58,080 --> 02:41:00,320
Speaker 1: Every day it's like playing tetris with the debt chart,

3196
02:41:00,760 --> 02:41:04,840
Speaker 1: and our starting slot had to be our right guard.

3197
02:41:05,280 --> 02:41:10,200
Speaker 1: In the game, we won the right guard. Ye stepped up, Nate.

3198
02:41:10,280 --> 02:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Shout out to Nate played right guard, got the dub.

3199
02:41:14,800 --> 02:41:16,920
Speaker 1: We ran the ball every play except one.

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Speaker 4: All right, So you know it comes with its own challenge.

3201
02:41:19,840 --> 02:41:22,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of challenges, a lot of challenges, and

3202
02:41:23,160 --> 02:41:30,680
Speaker 1: you know it's really turned into uh, guys taking sacrifices, right, like, hey,

3203
02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:33,280
Speaker 1: what you know, some guys wake up one day thinking

3204
02:41:33,320 --> 02:41:35,520
Speaker 1: they're going to be the slot receiver getting some carries,

3205
02:41:35,720 --> 02:41:39,320
Speaker 1: and then they find themselves starting as the right guard.

3206
02:41:40,200 --> 02:41:44,080
Speaker 3: In the trenches. In the trenches crazy, you enjoyed most

3207
02:41:44,120 --> 02:41:46,800
Speaker 3: about the high school level, how easy the signs are

3208
02:41:46,840 --> 02:41:47,160
Speaker 3: to steal.

3209
02:41:47,600 --> 02:41:50,760
Speaker 1: No, there hasn't been a single sign we because so

3210
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Speaker 1: we we right, obviously, we have some challenges. We have

3211
02:41:54,040 --> 02:41:57,680
Speaker 1: two offensive linemen. I mean I could stop right there,

3212
02:41:58,200 --> 02:42:02,280
Speaker 1: So you got to be able to manipulate tempo right

3213
02:42:02,360 --> 02:42:04,400
Speaker 1: to your advantage. So and I can talk about this

3214
02:42:04,600 --> 02:42:08,360
Speaker 1: and no one's gonna have an answer for it. So,

3215
02:42:09,720 --> 02:42:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, we with two offensive linemen, what do you do? Well,

3216
02:42:14,800 --> 02:42:18,360
Speaker 1: we do a lot of I don't even know what

3217
02:42:18,360 --> 02:42:20,320
Speaker 1: you want to call. It's not even tackle over, it's

3218
02:42:20,480 --> 02:42:21,840
Speaker 1: like everyone over.

3219
02:42:22,760 --> 02:42:24,360
Speaker 4: So you just take the two offensive line, like, hey,

3220
02:42:24,360 --> 02:42:25,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna play in the left side.

3221
02:42:25,320 --> 02:42:27,240
Speaker 1: No, No, Like the center is the last guy on

3222
02:42:27,320 --> 02:42:29,520
Speaker 1: the line and everyone else is over there. But you

3223
02:42:29,640 --> 02:42:31,960
Speaker 1: can't just line up like that that. You can't just

3224
02:42:32,000 --> 02:42:35,200
Speaker 1: give them fifteen seconds to adjust. So we we use

3225
02:42:35,280 --> 02:42:38,840
Speaker 1: like five or six different tempos where you know, one

3226
02:42:38,920 --> 02:42:41,680
Speaker 1: of them is a speed break huddle. So we'll speed

3227
02:42:41,760 --> 02:42:43,920
Speaker 1: break to overloading one side and snapping the ball in

3228
02:42:43,959 --> 02:42:46,000
Speaker 1: three seconds. Like you're not gonna be able to adjust

3229
02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:48,360
Speaker 1: to that in three seconds? No, we'll speed break into

3230
02:42:48,440 --> 02:42:51,039
Speaker 1: like pods where we have just the center and quarterback,

3231
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:54,000
Speaker 1: five guys over there, four guys over there. If you

3232
02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:56,119
Speaker 1: don't match your numbers, we're snapping it and getting it out.

3233
02:42:56,160 --> 02:42:58,840
Speaker 1: And we scored. We got a seventy five yard touchdown

3234
02:42:58,959 --> 02:43:02,039
Speaker 1: last week on that and the refs through a flag

3235
02:43:02,560 --> 02:43:06,160
Speaker 1: for twelve minute on the field, and I told her

3236
02:43:06,160 --> 02:43:07,720
Speaker 1: I got stay on the field. Stand the found yelling

3237
02:43:07,720 --> 02:43:09,560
Speaker 1: at the ref count them, what do you mean? Twelve

3238
02:43:09,640 --> 02:43:12,160
Speaker 1: on the field, and they count them and then they

3239
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:15,040
Speaker 1: go and have this meeting for like ten minutes, Like

3240
02:43:15,120 --> 02:43:16,800
Speaker 1: what are they talking about. There's eleven on the field.

3241
02:43:16,800 --> 02:43:18,480
Speaker 1: There's been eleven on the field, and then all of

3242
02:43:18,480 --> 02:43:20,039
Speaker 1: a sudden they change it from twelve on the field

3243
02:43:20,040 --> 02:43:20,959
Speaker 1: to five in the backfield.

3244
02:43:22,120 --> 02:43:24,000
Speaker 4: They're like, look, we're worried right now. How do we

3245
02:43:24,040 --> 02:43:25,200
Speaker 4: get out of this state?

3246
02:43:25,320 --> 02:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Fans they saw you, and they're like, probably probably got it.

3247
02:43:29,120 --> 02:43:30,480
Speaker 4: We got to make sure this guy doesn't have success

3248
02:43:30,560 --> 02:43:31,120
Speaker 4: anywhere now.

3249
02:43:31,440 --> 02:43:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, so we you know, we we utilize

3250
02:43:33,720 --> 02:43:36,320
Speaker 1: tempo to our advantage, and then we'll go fast. You know,

3251
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:38,920
Speaker 1: we'll go fast tempo and run a play real quick,

3252
02:43:39,440 --> 02:43:42,199
Speaker 1: and then we'll just go regular old tempo, take our time.

3253
02:43:42,560 --> 02:43:44,800
Speaker 1: Everything's on a wristband and they look at it and

3254
02:43:45,080 --> 02:43:46,760
Speaker 1: they get lined up, they run it and then we'll

3255
02:43:46,760 --> 02:43:48,360
Speaker 1: go fast again, but we'll hard count get them to

3256
02:43:48,440 --> 02:43:51,480
Speaker 1: jump first down. So you know, it's like we had

3257
02:43:51,520 --> 02:43:53,680
Speaker 1: like a ten minute drive. We didn't even score half ended,

3258
02:43:54,400 --> 02:43:57,520
Speaker 1: but like, hey, last defense is not even being on

3259
02:43:57,600 --> 02:44:00,600
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, uh wait, so the drive.

3260
02:44:00,520 --> 02:44:04,199
Speaker 4: Didn't even score with the half end. It's so funny

3261
02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:07,280
Speaker 4: to the boys, what's your record right now?

3262
02:44:07,920 --> 02:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Uh, we're wan to know starting this last week, let's

3263
02:44:10,680 --> 02:44:14,680
Speaker 1: go one and calls are one, and oh, we've got

3264
02:44:14,720 --> 02:44:17,240
Speaker 1: three games left and we actually could squeak into the

3265
02:44:17,280 --> 02:44:21,680
Speaker 1: playoffs if we win these last league. Well we're Division three,

3266
02:44:22,560 --> 02:44:26,800
Speaker 1: so we actually just beat a Division one team big time. Okay, Right,

3267
02:44:27,240 --> 02:44:28,039
Speaker 1: gotta get the kids.

3268
02:44:28,200 --> 02:44:30,280
Speaker 3: We gotta get kids eligible, we gotta get kids ready,

3269
02:44:30,320 --> 02:44:32,080
Speaker 3: We gotta get kids to buy into the program.

3270
02:44:32,240 --> 02:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Yes, and it is, you know, and I don't blame them.

3271
02:44:35,280 --> 02:44:37,680
Speaker 1: It's been tough, right, it's a it's a big culture shock.

3272
02:44:38,200 --> 02:44:41,560
Speaker 1: And uh when you are first three games were against

3273
02:44:41,680 --> 02:44:46,800
Speaker 1: like three juggernauts, and when they haven't won in a

3274
02:44:46,879 --> 02:44:49,280
Speaker 1: long time, you know, you know, you don't say this,

3275
02:44:49,440 --> 02:44:51,080
Speaker 1: but you kind of go in. You know, it's like

3276
02:44:51,160 --> 02:44:53,600
Speaker 1: it's like being a Max school playing uh, you know,

3277
02:44:53,680 --> 02:44:57,760
Speaker 1: Alabama or whatever, and you know you're you're you're prepping

3278
02:44:58,160 --> 02:45:00,800
Speaker 1: like crazy, but you know you're not shocked if you

3279
02:45:00,879 --> 02:45:06,000
Speaker 1: don't win. Right, Yeah, And then Week four, Week five,

3280
02:45:06,959 --> 02:45:10,200
Speaker 1: it was way more winnable games. We were in them

3281
02:45:10,879 --> 02:45:13,000
Speaker 1: and it's just like we just got to get that

3282
02:45:13,160 --> 02:45:15,760
Speaker 1: win to help with the buy in. And now that

3283
02:45:15,800 --> 02:45:17,800
Speaker 1: we got it, these guys are bought in.

3284
02:45:18,040 --> 02:45:19,640
Speaker 4: Right, he's got to get another one again.

3285
02:45:19,840 --> 02:45:25,000
Speaker 1: So Southeastern, big game on the road. Everybody show up? Yeah, right?

3286
02:45:26,120 --> 02:45:34,880
Speaker 4: How is the student section from Mumford? Damn dude? Is

3287
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:36,119
Speaker 4: Chandler Park Academy?

3288
02:45:36,160 --> 02:45:39,480
Speaker 1: They they that's homecoming? Yeah wait, I don't think that's

3289
02:45:39,480 --> 02:45:42,279
Speaker 1: a road game. No, it's supposed to be a home game. Okay,

3290
02:45:43,480 --> 02:45:45,880
Speaker 1: right now. The website is wrong, I think so. A

3291
02:45:45,920 --> 02:45:47,560
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of these scores are wrong too.

3292
02:45:47,680 --> 02:45:50,920
Speaker 1: By the way, there's one thirty to nothing. Renaissance scored

3293
02:45:50,959 --> 02:45:52,920
Speaker 1: three times. How do you get thirty points in three scores?

3294
02:45:53,360 --> 02:45:56,600
Speaker 1: Or maybe it was four scores? Safety they had four touchdowns, but.

3295
02:45:56,640 --> 02:45:57,880
Speaker 4: We were hilarious.

3296
02:45:57,879 --> 02:45:59,760
Speaker 1: We were four for four on two point conversion.

3297
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean cast Tech is like my freshman year there

3298
02:46:03,760 --> 02:46:07,880
Speaker 3: was like Lewis ye that yeah, that was like, whoever

3299
02:46:08,120 --> 02:46:08,320
Speaker 3: are you.

3300
02:46:08,320 --> 02:46:09,960
Speaker 4: Guys scoreless up until the last week.

3301
02:46:10,200 --> 02:46:11,280
Speaker 1: We scored in the first game.

3302
02:46:11,840 --> 02:46:16,080
Speaker 4: Okay, but a shout up Momford, shout up Monford.

3303
02:46:16,160 --> 02:46:16,720
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

3304
02:46:16,800 --> 02:46:17,320
Speaker 4: That's all time.

3305
02:46:19,000 --> 02:46:20,480
Speaker 3: I'll get this last question and then we can go

3306
02:46:20,560 --> 02:46:22,560
Speaker 3: to your talk and then we'll close shop here. So,

3307
02:46:22,920 --> 02:46:24,760
Speaker 3: there's obviously a lot of things that you are alleged

3308
02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:26,720
Speaker 3: doing legally.

3309
02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:32,520
Speaker 4: Illegally with that, well, nothing illegal you're allegedly, people are.

3310
02:46:32,440 --> 02:46:36,919
Speaker 1: Saying, and see bylaws, nothing against the constitution.

3311
02:46:36,600 --> 02:46:38,280
Speaker 3: Right, nothing is the contition. So there's a lot of

3312
02:46:38,320 --> 02:46:40,600
Speaker 3: things that people are saying that you did. Who else

3313
02:46:40,640 --> 02:46:42,039
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten are you aware of are doing

3314
02:46:42,080 --> 02:46:43,720
Speaker 3: the same things you're being accused of doing.

3315
02:46:50,480 --> 02:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm not there, so I don't want to I don't

3316
02:46:53,200 --> 02:46:55,880
Speaker 1: want to say exactly, this is what this team's doing,

3317
02:46:55,959 --> 02:46:59,039
Speaker 1: this is what that team's doing. But there's a lot

3318
02:46:59,080 --> 02:47:03,080
Speaker 1: of Big Ten teams. Who are you know at that level?

3319
02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:11,800
Speaker 1: It's Ohio State, Rutgers, I believe, Penn State, UH, Indiana's

3320
02:47:11,840 --> 02:47:16,560
Speaker 1: really good. Those those are probably the top four in

3321
02:47:16,640 --> 02:47:20,440
Speaker 1: the big ten. Who are we're all on the same level? Yeah,

3322
02:47:21,720 --> 02:47:24,080
Speaker 1: what is uh, just for Will Compton's sake, where is

3323
02:47:24,160 --> 02:47:29,400
Speaker 1: Nebraska their rank in the city category, I'd say they're

3324
02:47:29,520 --> 02:47:34,240
Speaker 1: they're how many tiers are we talking here? Like if

3325
02:47:34,320 --> 02:47:36,160
Speaker 1: if you if you just say five tiers, they're probably

3326
02:47:36,200 --> 02:47:39,200
Speaker 1: tier two, tier three. They're not bad, they're they're good

3327
02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:44,280
Speaker 1: at protecting. So they got to know at least something. Yeah, right, Yeah,

3328
02:47:44,760 --> 02:47:45,200
Speaker 1: that's good.

3329
02:47:45,480 --> 02:47:47,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're around that tier tier two, tier three.

3330
02:47:48,200 --> 02:47:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, in your time obviously we I we've already figured

3331
02:47:51,440 --> 02:47:54,120
Speaker 3: out that. You know who States Connor Stallions is. Did

3332
02:47:54,200 --> 02:47:56,520
Speaker 3: you ever trade information with them?

3333
02:47:56,600 --> 02:48:00,879
Speaker 1: Again, the only time was not directly. I gave something

3334
02:48:01,000 --> 02:48:03,039
Speaker 1: to give to someone to give to someone to give

3335
02:48:03,080 --> 02:48:04,160
Speaker 1: to him to help him.

3336
02:48:04,240 --> 02:48:05,680
Speaker 4: Did they ever get that wins you.

3337
02:48:07,280 --> 02:48:09,320
Speaker 1: To help them? Did they?

3338
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:13,960
Speaker 3: Did they ever approach anybody from a hoose state of

3339
02:48:13,959 --> 02:48:16,040
Speaker 3: approach you about future teams or anything like that or

3340
02:48:16,120 --> 02:48:17,200
Speaker 3: was it kind of like we just don't talk to

3341
02:48:17,280 --> 02:48:17,600
Speaker 3: each other?

3342
02:48:18,000 --> 02:48:19,840
Speaker 1: No? Zero percent?

3343
02:48:20,040 --> 02:48:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Ohio State had the OG signals from somebody.

3344
02:48:28,360 --> 02:48:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they they definitely were utilizing Stolen's signals

3345
02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:37,240
Speaker 1: well before we were definitely so you're a whare Dave?

3346
02:48:37,360 --> 02:48:39,560
Speaker 1: That goes back to the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.

3347
02:48:39,400 --> 02:48:41,640
Speaker 4: You're aware of Dave Portnoy and champagne bottles?

3348
02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:45,080
Speaker 1: What about him? Are you aware of them? No?

3349
02:48:45,640 --> 02:48:48,400
Speaker 3: So Dave has all of his biggest enemies in the world.

3350
02:48:48,480 --> 02:48:51,240
Speaker 3: He has champagne bottles, and when then they fall, he

3351
02:48:51,360 --> 02:48:53,120
Speaker 3: opens that champagne bottle and he drinks it.

3352
02:48:54,120 --> 02:48:56,000
Speaker 4: Who would be your number one champagne bottle?

3353
02:48:56,760 --> 02:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Team, life, person, him, anybody? It's gotta be Ryan Day,

3354
02:49:02,360 --> 02:49:04,160
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's your.

3355
02:49:04,200 --> 02:49:06,920
Speaker 4: Champagne, but that's your champagne bottle. I will tell you this.

3356
02:49:07,000 --> 02:49:09,080
Speaker 4: You're so bagrated to pop one open. You're just waiting

3357
02:49:09,080 --> 02:49:11,280
Speaker 4: for the dominoes to fall. We were in Columbus for

3358
02:49:11,320 --> 02:49:13,800
Speaker 4: a spring tour last year, right, it would be Ryan Day?

3359
02:49:15,320 --> 02:49:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who would be your next champagne bottle?

3360
02:49:20,000 --> 02:49:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I've Ohio States, like that's your goes moral

3361
02:49:22,760 --> 02:49:23,520
Speaker 4: and only number one?

3362
02:49:23,760 --> 02:49:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who would be your second champagne bottle?

3363
02:49:27,240 --> 02:49:30,800
Speaker 4: Person or team or let's person, let's do person.

3364
02:49:35,120 --> 02:49:39,680
Speaker 1: That's gotta be up there, that would make things easier.

3365
02:49:43,240 --> 02:49:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a fan of Michigan State, and

3366
02:49:46,120 --> 02:49:50,360
Speaker 1: that's not a person, but I got nothing against uh

3367
02:49:51,400 --> 02:49:57,440
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith. He's their new head coach. Yeah, I mean

3368
02:49:58,320 --> 02:50:01,080
Speaker 1: it was Mel Tucker before the that was Mark D'Antonio.

3369
02:50:02,120 --> 02:50:03,080
Speaker 1: Antonio was a dog.

3370
02:50:03,320 --> 02:50:04,000
Speaker 4: He did a great job.

3371
02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:06,480
Speaker 1: I respect him. Yeah, I'm not a fan.

3372
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:10,359
Speaker 3: No, I will tell you this, I hate Michigan.

3373
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:12,200
Speaker 1: State more than a house state. I'm right there with you,

3374
02:50:12,320 --> 02:50:14,600
Speaker 1: are you really when you grow up in the state

3375
02:50:14,640 --> 02:50:18,080
Speaker 1: of Michigan, you're surrounded by spartans, not buck guys. So

3376
02:50:18,600 --> 02:50:23,920
Speaker 1: like nationally the game, right, obviously that's the game. Yeah,

3377
02:50:24,200 --> 02:50:26,760
Speaker 1: and you prepare for that game all year, no doubt,

3378
02:50:27,320 --> 02:50:29,560
Speaker 1: but like when it comes down to like this is

3379
02:50:29,600 --> 02:50:31,959
Speaker 1: personal Michigan State for.

3380
02:50:32,040 --> 02:50:32,640
Speaker 4: The state title.

3381
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

3382
02:50:34,160 --> 02:50:38,680
Speaker 3: Tier talk, so tear talk is I'll explain it to you.

3383
02:50:38,800 --> 02:50:41,480
Speaker 4: So we go through our top three talk. Okay, you've

3384
02:50:41,480 --> 02:50:41,760
Speaker 4: seen it.

3385
02:50:42,160 --> 02:50:43,720
Speaker 3: So you're gonna start with your tier three, then you

3386
02:50:43,760 --> 02:50:45,680
Speaker 3: go your tier two, then your tier one. Our tier

3387
02:50:45,760 --> 02:50:51,199
Speaker 3: talk today is best spies, not best spies or best spice,

3388
02:50:52,680 --> 02:50:53,800
Speaker 3: best spies.

3389
02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:57,640
Speaker 4: So I'm ready to go. Do we have a god teer?

3390
02:50:59,040 --> 02:50:59,879
Speaker 4: Do you want to say on three?

3391
02:51:00,400 --> 02:51:01,879
Speaker 1: One two three?

3392
02:51:03,200 --> 02:51:08,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Connor Stallions will be our god teer. So Connor

3393
02:51:08,640 --> 02:51:10,119
Speaker 3: is our god teer spy.

3394
02:51:12,600 --> 02:51:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

3395
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:19,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmm character yeah, yeah, So I'll go first. My

3396
02:51:19,760 --> 02:51:22,520
Speaker 3: tier three is going to be Sterling Archer from the

3397
02:51:22,600 --> 02:51:26,240
Speaker 3: show Archer. I think he's an alcoholic, but he always

3398
02:51:26,280 --> 02:51:28,119
Speaker 3: finds a way to get the job done. I think

3399
02:51:28,160 --> 02:51:31,560
Speaker 3: that show is incredibly well done. I I I just

3400
02:51:31,680 --> 02:51:34,800
Speaker 3: I love the show. He is a fantastic spot. My

3401
02:51:35,080 --> 02:51:37,720
Speaker 3: tier two is going to be.

3402
02:51:39,800 --> 02:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Jason Bourne.

3403
02:51:41,879 --> 02:51:42,160
Speaker 4: Jason.

3404
02:51:44,440 --> 02:51:47,200
Speaker 3: There's been a argument on this bus for a long time.

3405
02:51:47,400 --> 02:51:50,040
Speaker 3: Who is it who would win to fight Jason Bourne

3406
02:51:50,520 --> 02:51:54,120
Speaker 3: or John Wick? My after what rewatching the Jason Bournes,

3407
02:51:54,160 --> 02:51:56,720
Speaker 3: It's clear as day this guy just stays one step

3408
02:51:56,760 --> 02:51:59,000
Speaker 3: ahead of everybody. Now would be very interesting to see

3409
02:51:59,040 --> 02:52:01,400
Speaker 3: based on how technology advanced as his movies came out.

3410
02:52:01,400 --> 02:52:03,520
Speaker 3: They're no longer doing flip phones, if you would be

3411
02:52:03,520 --> 02:52:06,879
Speaker 3: able to keep the pace. But he's my tier two

3412
02:52:07,000 --> 02:52:08,920
Speaker 3: and my tier one. Who would have been my god

3413
02:52:09,000 --> 02:52:11,280
Speaker 3: teer given that everybody else felt and felt the same

3414
02:52:11,320 --> 02:52:14,560
Speaker 3: way as gonna be James Bond. I think James Bond

3415
02:52:14,640 --> 02:52:16,760
Speaker 3: is the OG. I love the fact that every ten

3416
02:52:16,879 --> 02:52:20,840
Speaker 3: years or so they just recycle the storylines, new new

3417
02:52:20,959 --> 02:52:21,480
Speaker 3: James Bond.

3418
02:52:21,560 --> 02:52:21,920
Speaker 1: Everything.

3419
02:52:22,040 --> 02:52:25,520
Speaker 4: It is just it's all fucking time. It's all time.

3420
02:52:25,600 --> 02:52:29,520
Speaker 4: So that is my tier talk boys in the back

3421
02:52:30,320 --> 02:52:30,720
Speaker 4: buss you.

3422
02:52:33,200 --> 02:52:41,000
Speaker 6: Sneaky, all hyphenated, get some rest, Pam, you look tired.

3423
02:52:43,360 --> 02:53:01,520
Speaker 12: Decent, fuck you jack, technical, military, solid, you need want

3424
02:53:01,680 --> 02:53:01,960
Speaker 12: one more.

3425
02:53:07,840 --> 02:53:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm also trying to think of my three at the

3426
02:53:09,440 --> 02:53:09,840
Speaker 1: same time.

3427
02:53:18,080 --> 02:53:21,720
Speaker 3: Elite Okay, all right, well yeah, well we got there.

3428
02:53:21,879 --> 02:53:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean because I mean two two of my three

3429
02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:30,119
Speaker 1: are on there. There you go. I see Sterling that show.

3430
02:53:31,640 --> 02:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

3431
02:53:34,080 --> 02:53:38,720
Speaker 4: My tier three is going to be Kim Possible, globally

3432
02:53:38,760 --> 02:53:43,720
Speaker 4: fighting crime do what seems like she's got a great personality.

3433
02:53:45,040 --> 02:53:50,000
Speaker 4: My Tier two is going to be Harry Hart the Kingsman,

3434
02:53:51,120 --> 02:53:56,480
Speaker 4: special agent mentor to Gary Eggsy Unwin. And my tier

3435
02:53:56,560 --> 02:54:01,160
Speaker 4: one Sneaky. It's going to be the scout piece in

3436
02:54:01,280 --> 02:54:04,840
Speaker 4: the board game Stratigo. You're able to manipulate this piece

3437
02:54:04,879 --> 02:54:08,000
Speaker 4: around and when it gets exposed, it's ultimately like you're

3438
02:54:08,000 --> 02:54:09,960
Speaker 4: you're trying to smoke out other pieces on the board.

3439
02:54:10,800 --> 02:54:13,600
Speaker 4: And I love Stratigo growing up. One on one just

3440
02:54:13,680 --> 02:54:16,199
Speaker 4: a chess match where you're trying to protect your flag,

3441
02:54:16,320 --> 02:54:18,240
Speaker 4: kind of capture the flag. You can place bombs around

3442
02:54:18,280 --> 02:54:21,280
Speaker 4: it and there. Then there are ranks from like one

3443
02:54:21,520 --> 02:54:25,480
Speaker 4: all the way to maybe ten, maybe eight. But then

3444
02:54:25,520 --> 02:54:27,199
Speaker 4: there's a scout piece. I can kind of move around,

3445
02:54:27,280 --> 02:54:30,040
Speaker 4: maneuver around that. You want to smoke out, and uh,

3446
02:54:30,080 --> 02:54:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the scout piece.

3447
02:54:33,000 --> 02:54:37,640
Speaker 1: Hyphenated front runner, front runner almost.

3448
02:54:39,440 --> 02:54:44,359
Speaker 5: Dun dun dunnan, hyphenated first half team.

3449
02:54:48,040 --> 02:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Hyphenated lost me.

3450
02:54:52,000 --> 02:55:14,280
Speaker 7: Nerd whatever, bitches, bitches, interesting, thank you, Yeah, you're up.

3451
02:55:15,240 --> 02:55:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go number three Spy kids, Okay, I was

3452
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:24,120
Speaker 1: checking them out. Yeah, you know, it's one of the

3453
02:55:24,280 --> 02:55:26,199
Speaker 1: it's gotta be the first spy movie I've ever watched.

3454
02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:32,959
Speaker 1: Number two, I gotta go with James Bond and number

3455
02:55:33,040 --> 02:55:38,440
Speaker 1: one Born like Born You like Born over Wick. Yes,

3456
02:55:39,879 --> 02:55:47,680
Speaker 1: that's all I need to hear. Gay, Oh yeah, inspector gadget.

3457
02:55:48,560 --> 02:55:51,120
Speaker 1: It's a good one. It's a good one. There's a

3458
02:55:51,160 --> 02:55:53,920
Speaker 1: lot out there, though, well the best ones you can't

3459
02:55:53,959 --> 02:55:59,480
Speaker 1: talk about, correct. Yeah, in the spy Museum, No we did.

3460
02:55:59,800 --> 02:56:05,720
Speaker 1: I I've been in the spot museum. Oh, well played,

3461
02:56:05,959 --> 02:56:06,720
Speaker 1: and thanks for coming.

3462
02:56:07,120 --> 02:56:08,359
Speaker 4: My one word.

3463
02:56:09,600 --> 02:56:21,759
Speaker 13: Manifesto detailed prose, calculative, classic.

3464
02:56:23,760 --> 02:56:27,840
Speaker 11: Classics hyphenated all business.

3465
02:56:29,920 --> 02:56:35,440
Speaker 3: Boy, just give a mind a plus collect really contacted

3466
02:56:35,480 --> 02:56:38,560
Speaker 3: you Friday. You're here on Monday. I really appreciate you

3467
02:56:38,640 --> 02:56:41,360
Speaker 3: coming in the insight everything it has been literally swept

3468
02:56:41,400 --> 02:56:44,720
Speaker 3: the nation, all the things that happened to come out

3469
02:56:44,720 --> 02:56:45,840
Speaker 3: of that manifesto of yours.

3470
02:56:45,879 --> 02:56:47,920
Speaker 4: We appreciate you taking having to sit down with us. Yes, sir,

3471
02:56:48,080 --> 02:56:50,200
Speaker 4: and this is your first like long form interview since

3472
02:56:50,240 --> 02:56:52,119
Speaker 4: all of it, right, besides the document.

3473
02:56:51,840 --> 02:56:55,439
Speaker 1: Documentary, besides my nine hour master interview for the documentary.

3474
02:56:55,680 --> 02:56:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, thank you. This was I enjoyed every minute.

3475
02:56:59,240 --> 02:57:01,800
Speaker 4: I would have would have enjoyed being in the trenches

3476
02:57:01,840 --> 02:57:03,959
Speaker 4: with you and playing for you. I would have loved

3477
02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:04,960
Speaker 4: every fucking minute of it.

3478
02:57:07,800 --> 02:57:08,160
Speaker 1: He would have.

3479
02:57:09,040 --> 02:57:09,640
Speaker 4: Yes, their coach.

3480
02:57:09,840 --> 02:57:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but.

3481
02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:12,680
Speaker 4: Also I know you want to give me the ball.

3482
02:57:13,720 --> 02:57:15,320
Speaker 1: Well maybe we can pull the guard and hand it

3483
02:57:15,360 --> 02:57:19,200
Speaker 1: off to him, no doubt. Southeastern, watch out, watch out.

3484
02:57:19,360 --> 02:57:21,480
Speaker 3: All right, boys, big hugs, any kisses, Please subscribe to

3485
02:57:21,560 --> 02:57:23,840
Speaker 3: rate five stars. Thank you so much for everything.

3486
02:57:24,120 --> 02:57:25,440
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. Hey.

3487
02:57:25,520 --> 02:57:28,359
Speaker 4: That was incredible, awesome, that was incredible.

3488
02:57:29,480 --> 02:57:29,520
Speaker 7: That