Speaker 1: Hey guys, Bobby here, thank you for being subscribed to
Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast. We just appreciate it. The thing has
Speaker 1: grown so much, and just appreciate you obviously. So we
Speaker 1: have a new football podcast called Whistles, and the reason
Speaker 1: is it's because we're doing twenty five episodes and then
Speaker 1: it's just gonna die. And isn't that just a metaphor
Speaker 1: for life. We live, we love, and then we die.
Speaker 1: That's kind of sad, but that's what's happening here twenty
Speaker 1: five Whistles. We're talking in college football NFL. And so
Speaker 1: this is an episode that this was our starter episode
Speaker 1: and the goal is in like five episodes, to be
Speaker 1: embarrassed of this episode because it was so bad compared
Speaker 1: to what we're doing now. But we're very proud of it.
Speaker 1: And mostly if you like it, go and subscribe and
Speaker 1: follow our podcast. I think it's the only ever limited
Speaker 1: sports podcast that's focused on current sports. So Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: is a guest. We're very excited he came on. I
Speaker 1: just didn't expect to get somebody so awesome in the
Speaker 1: first episode. Also, the Arkansas had football coach Sam Pittman,
Speaker 1: and even if you hate Arkansas and you've heard me
Speaker 1: talk about it so much you're like, please stab me
Speaker 1: in the ear. We don't really talk about ark saw
Speaker 1: football that much doing Mike. It's mostly like being an
Speaker 1: SEC coach and the challenges behind the scenes stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what it's like to be married and your wife
Speaker 1: has to go well, football season so way less balanced now,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I hope you listen to this,
Speaker 1: and if you like it, go subscribe to twenty five
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Speaker 1: episodes up now, and I hope you listen to it.
Speaker 1: And it's weird. People are like, well, I didn't know
Speaker 1: you did sports. I'm out of retirement. I got called
Speaker 1: back in back in back at a national sports you
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio for many years covered the draft
Speaker 1: for ABC and ESPN, and it's just generally my my
Speaker 1: obsession and hobby. And you're not gonna hear us breaking
Speaker 1: down coverages in this podcast. It's just hopefully the stuff
Speaker 1: that you want to hear your friends talking about sports.
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's up. And we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: till the super Bowl. But here is episode one with
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick and all of us here in twenty five
Speaker 1: whistles is the podcast called tim Sucking fun Ball and
Speaker 1: they whist yes, but what didn't you expect? It's a
Speaker 1: podcast whistles whatever, everybody, we we actually are wearing whistles,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a second. But whoever
Speaker 1: has the best show today gets to blow the whistle
Speaker 1: at the end. It's the it's the reward for winning,
Speaker 1: doing the best job. If you overplay, though, we'll take
Speaker 1: your whistle away for next game. That's quite the reward,
Speaker 1: big one. The only one person gets to blow the
Speaker 1: whistle at the end. What's happening, everybody. So what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do here is we're gonna do our warm ups,
Speaker 1: just like in a game. I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 1: warm up question. We'll go around the room, we'll introduce you.
Speaker 1: This is how we get to know each other. So
Speaker 1: we'll go around there and first up, the question will
Speaker 1: be who is your favorite football player as a kid.
Speaker 1: So think about that for a second. Your favorite player
Speaker 1: as a kid. First up, Adam Handbrick. Adam your favorite
Speaker 1: football player as a child, Smithy, I grew up a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. Yeah, you know, the the other Cowboys get
Speaker 1: the traditional TV coverage in Arkansas, and that's who was
Speaker 1: on and that's who my dad was a fan of,
Speaker 1: and so I was. I got duped into being a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan when they were winning all those Super Bowls
Speaker 1: and the nineties Eddie Joe Montana. So before I was
Speaker 1: there a Cowboys hear me, Before I was a Cowboys fan,
Speaker 1: I was the Ford Niners fan obviously, because Joe Montana
Speaker 1: and Jared Rice and all those dudes were just dominating.
Speaker 1: And then once Joe Montana went to the Chiefs retired,
Speaker 1: bah blah, I was like, I need a team, and
Speaker 1: so my mom was really into the Cowboys. Obviously I'm
Speaker 1: from South Texas. Let's go Cowboys and we started winning.
Speaker 1: That's my team now. But you can't really change teams.
Speaker 1: Well you're not, as I literally thought you were a
Speaker 1: much like deeper Cowboys fan. Yeah, I feel borderland trade Listen,
Speaker 1: you can't trade teams. Listen. When you're a kid, you
Speaker 1: like who you like and at that time it's just
Speaker 1: whoever is winning it. I don't have a team, like
Speaker 1: can you imagine. I can't imagine me a Ford Niners
Speaker 1: fans still like that. That's ridiculous. I'm not from California, Texas,
Speaker 1: but I'm surprised you just warn't as a kid, I
Speaker 1: guess that's what I'm saying. Are there any I heart
Speaker 1: Texans fans? I mean, like, unless you like live there
Speaker 1: and you're like soup, you know that would be I
Speaker 1: remember as a kid kid maybe a Texans fan because
Speaker 1: they grew up there. I remember as a kid there
Speaker 1: were a lot of Oilers, like it was split Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Oilers and Cowboys weren't I mean, stop back. Those were
Speaker 1: great days for them. But I think there were more
Speaker 1: Oilers fans when Texans took over. I mean I didn't
Speaker 1: know anybody kick off Kevin Your favorite football player as
Speaker 1: a kid as a kid? Um, well, either one would
Speaker 1: be Tom Brady, but he's still playing, so I'll go
Speaker 1: with Randy Moss. That's crazy. I was nine. Do you
Speaker 1: have such a beer and big muscles? How old are
Speaker 1: you at a young age? No? You do not do
Speaker 1: that's all. Yeah, like the oil fields for like twenty years.
Speaker 1: Is that a good thing? That's a good thing. That's
Speaker 1: a good thing. He's like se Kwan Barkley as a kid,
Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow. Mike d favorite football player as a
Speaker 1: kid Troy Aikman. Okay, that's a good one. How old
Speaker 1: are you, Mike thirty one? There we go. There's like
Speaker 1: a generation difference still on your favorite players, though, I
Speaker 1: guess Tom Brady the first part of Tom Brady, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the earlier. But like I said, the first player
Speaker 1: I remember liking was Randy Moss. Dear God, we have
Speaker 1: three Cowboys fans here. It's a Cowboys show. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys club. Mine is boom Assayasin because when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, he was the only left handed quarterback
Speaker 1: that I really like, and in the Forts were winning,
Speaker 1: so I didn't go with Steve Young and Joe Montana
Speaker 1: was hit early in my early days. And then when
Speaker 1: Steve Young became the quarterback and he was left handed,
Speaker 1: I don't like a winner. I like somebody that's a
Speaker 1: loser that becomes a winner. So I was a big
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals fan. I remember watching them beat by the
Speaker 1: forty niners and being so sad. I cried. It was
Speaker 1: it was awful. But Boomersia said he was my inspiration
Speaker 1: until like seventh grade when I wasn't quarterback anymore. And
Speaker 1: he also like went to the Jets. And there's a
Speaker 1: whole weird thing. So but I don't have a team.
Speaker 1: I don't have an NFL team. I like a lot
Speaker 1: of the NFL teams. I hate a few NFL teams,
Speaker 1: mostly just the Cowboys. But and I don't even have
Speaker 1: But I don't even hate him as much. I hated
Speaker 1: a winner, so I hated the Cowboys all throughout the
Speaker 1: you know, mid to late nineties. We should love us now, well, yes,
Speaker 1: you're a big losers. But you guys are so annoying.
Speaker 1: So you say annoying, I say, we're very hopeful. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a passion, hope because every start of the year
Speaker 1: we're like, this is it, this is our year. But
Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. I don't I like that about you,
Speaker 1: but I can respect and also hate the passion. Hey,
Speaker 1: is it too late for you to come up with
Speaker 1: a favorite NFL team? Like? Um, I have a couple
Speaker 1: of friends that play, and that makes it weird. Weish
Speaker 1: we should take some tweets and like get people to
Speaker 1: to for their teams. I don't give a crap. I'm
Speaker 1: good watching. I'll watch fantasy. I'll root for the Titans
Speaker 1: because they're close and there some people over there. I'll
Speaker 1: follow Arkansas players like Traylon Brooks with the Titans. I'll
Speaker 1: keep up with that. So okay. Second question, name a
Speaker 1: dumb sports mascot? All right, name a dumb sports mascot. Question.
Speaker 1: Eddie says he's in go Blue Devils. Okay, the duke
Speaker 1: blue Man? What is that? High school was red Devils?
Speaker 1: I get it when you pictured the devil, it's red, right,
Speaker 1: But what's a blue Devils like the ice a devil?
Speaker 1: Is that his? Like? I just don't get it. His
Speaker 1: twin brother, that's the good devil. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: Kick off, Kevin, let's go with the Philly fanatic. I
Speaker 1: think it's just random to me. His look. You know,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting tea too, because when the mascot doesn't
Speaker 1: actually like Stanford, what is it? They have a tree
Speaker 1: and they have Christmas year round. That wasn't my answer.
Speaker 1: Oh that's but yeah, Toledo. You know Toledo's mascot. Are
Speaker 1: they Rockets? Rockets? Um? So, I hate the Toledo Rockets.
Speaker 1: First of all, I hate because we went and Brad
Speaker 1: Paisley asked Eddie and I to go play a show
Speaker 1: after Arkansas played Toledo. It was a little more memorial stadium,
Speaker 1: and so we're supposed to kill him, and Eddie and
Speaker 1: I are like, absolutely so, somebody an opener. Eddie and
Speaker 1: I the reging idiots and Brad easily right after the
Speaker 1: game we're supposed to win. We lost the game to Toledo.
Speaker 1: They beat us, and we were miserable. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do as awful, So I hate the Rockets. I mean,
Speaker 1: Toledo's cool and fine. I was really worried that night
Speaker 1: that you weren't gonna go on my boycott. Straight up,
Speaker 1: Mike d named dumb sports mascot. I can't even think of,
Speaker 1: not a single dumb mascot. No, if I thought some
Speaker 1: of the go razor back. No, somebody gets fired the
Speaker 1: first ever hear from them again, h Adam hambroke a
Speaker 1: dumb sports mascot. Why is Alabama the Elephants? I still
Speaker 1: don't understand it. I've been it's been explained to me
Speaker 1: multiple times, but I still don't get into care. I
Speaker 1: think a war eagle similar meaning what's a war eagle
Speaker 1: I like, but I like a piece eagle like the
Speaker 1: American eagle. Yeah, I mean yeah, I forget to pick
Speaker 1: the kind of eagle. Okay, we're all stretching out. We
Speaker 1: got one more. Would your wife or Kevin? I don't
Speaker 1: think you have a you know, married, Sorry, you have girl? No,
Speaker 1: I don't. Would your wife or have you athetical? Have
Speaker 1: you ever had a girlfriend? What's the last time? The
Speaker 1: last serious one was probably four years ago. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just act like you're still together. Okay, perfect it Would
Speaker 1: your wife rather you be generally a good athlete, or
Speaker 1: would you rather you generally have good fashion sense? If
Speaker 1: it was just naturally in you, Mike d fashion sense.
Speaker 1: My wife gives on me all the time that I
Speaker 1: dressed like crap Adam hambrig Oh, definitely fashion sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kevin athlete for sure, Eddie. I mean I don't dress well.
Speaker 1: My wife never says anything, and she loves that. My
Speaker 1: boys are athletes, like my little kids are really good athletes,
Speaker 1: and she loves that. So I think she would like
Speaker 1: for her husband to be an athlete. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with athlete to My wife is extremely athletic. It's annoying.
Speaker 1: She's so gifted athletic, athletically and so I think she
Speaker 1: would like that for kid. Time for the kid to
Speaker 1: dear God, if it gets my athletic ability, not hers.
Speaker 1: She can kill me. And I was a pretty good athlete,
Speaker 1: but she's you know, um and she can handle the
Speaker 1: fashion stuff for me out. Yesterday I went to dinner
Speaker 1: and I walked down all my clothes landing on the bed.
Speaker 1: I don't put him out. She pick him out for me.
Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, yeah, she kills that. Um. So all right,
Speaker 1: twenty five whistles. Here's why we're named this draft. Kings
Speaker 1: was like, hey, let's I want you to do a
Speaker 1: show and I said, okay. We talked about it for
Speaker 1: a long time and I said, I don't want to
Speaker 1: commit to a show for all year. I don't know
Speaker 1: who's gonna do it with me. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we have the capat. I said, let's lot do a
Speaker 1: sports show and we'll do it till the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They were like, great, I'll do one a week, which
Speaker 1: we're doing here. We'll probably do a little more than
Speaker 1: one a week occasionally, but I said I'll do twenty
Speaker 1: five and then we're retiring, and so that's why it's
Speaker 1: twenty five. Whistles will build whistled into each show, episodes
Speaker 1: over and then we're good. Episode two. That's it. Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick coming up in a little bits. As I look
Speaker 1: back at my favorite interviews ever and like the coolest ones.
Speaker 1: I put Steven Tyler up there, half Hourady with John Mayer,
Speaker 1: and I put Dan Patrick because I'm just a massive
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick fan. You guys thought it was cool, right
Speaker 1: it was? It was awesome. So Dan Patrick coming up.
Speaker 1: And obviously the first episode, we're gonna have Sam Pittman,
Speaker 1: the Arkansas football head coach. We don't really talk about
Speaker 1: Arkansas football, meaning we don't get in. It's mostly like
Speaker 1: being an SEC coach, being famous, now in a town,
Speaker 1: all of that. So we talked with Sam Pittman a
Speaker 1: little bit. I was worried that when you book Sam Pittman,
Speaker 1: I'm like, here we go, it's gonna be an Arkansas podcast.
Speaker 1: It easily could have been, but I didn't make it
Speaker 1: that I It was could have been any SEC head coach,
Speaker 1: but I just felt like I needed to go Pittman
Speaker 1: because that's my guy, and I knew I could get
Speaker 1: out just texted him, honestly, So next week and we
Speaker 1: get the quarterbacks coach, you to play quarterback for it.
Speaker 1: Logins coming on the polic All right, here's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. This is a little game we're gonna play
Speaker 1: for the episodes that we do. You don't have to play,
Speaker 1: but if you don't get in today, you can't play
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. Oh my gosh. Right, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna play who Wins It All? So for one dollar.
Speaker 1: For one dollar, you can buy a team in college
Speaker 1: footb all you can somebody else can buy the same
Speaker 1: team for one dollar. You can buy a team in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right now, you go who Wins it All?
Speaker 1: Put a dollar in on it, and you can keep
Speaker 1: that one dollar in it. Now, if you change your
Speaker 1: pick at any time, you gotta double your dollar bet
Speaker 1: to two dollars. You can change and pick another team.
Speaker 1: So that being the case, we'll have to shut it
Speaker 1: down at one point. Obviously. What figure out when that is?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's new Year. Maybe it's because I just made
Speaker 1: the scheme up last night. So I don't want you
Speaker 1: guys to go beautiful mind to figure out how to
Speaker 1: actually beat the system. So We're gonna play who wins
Speaker 1: it all? Nobody got a heads up, But for one dollar,
Speaker 1: you get to pick a team, and each one dollar college,
Speaker 1: one dollar NFL, and we'll keep up with it. Um
Speaker 1: does everybody want in for a dollar? It would be dumb.
Speaker 1: Let's play who wins it all? And we'll check every
Speaker 1: week if we wants to change your mind? Who wins
Speaker 1: it all? In college football? Okay? Now, remember, if you
Speaker 1: pick a big team, someone else might pick it with you.
Speaker 1: You just can't come in on a team that's already
Speaker 1: picked a week after. We're later. So if you pick
Speaker 1: Alabama right now and you have been changing your mind
Speaker 1: to go to somebody else, I can then go to Alabama.
Speaker 1: But if you have it, I can't take Alabama later
Speaker 1: because we gotta split the money up in a weird way. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm making up the rules as I go. Right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's play who wins it all? Adam Handbrike college football?
Speaker 1: Who wins it all? Oh man, I'm gonna it's hard
Speaker 1: to argue against Alabama. I'm gonna argue against Alabama though,
Speaker 1: and take Ohio State just big. We can't. We can't
Speaker 1: just have Alabama win it every year. You guys, well,
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't. I know, um, Eddie, give me
Speaker 1: a dollar for Alabama? Okay, I mean why not was
Speaker 1: guaranteed money? Man kick off? Kevin roll tied, I'm going Obama. Oky,
Speaker 1: we got two Obamas. Mike d I'm going with Georgia. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what. First week, I'm also gonna go Alama.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I do want, but I just want
Speaker 1: to be differently. I don't want to go three deep
Speaker 1: on Alabama. We should have all written it down before,
Speaker 1: but I thought if I could read it, read you
Speaker 1: just up. I know. But I'm just coming up with
Speaker 1: the game as we go here. But yesterday he means,
Speaker 1: like an hour ago, I'm gonna go with Alabama. After
Speaker 1: all that thought, I still go to help. Okay, So
Speaker 1: there we go. That's that's NFL. That money is at
Speaker 1: one pot in FL. Ready, yea, let's go around the room,
Speaker 1: pick your team and it'll cost you one dollar to
Speaker 1: get in. Mike, do you get to go first? I'm
Speaker 1: going with the Bucks kick off? Kevin. See you want
Speaker 1: to go to the Bucks to Yeah, let's go to
Speaker 1: the Bucks, big Adam. I'm going Bengals. Okay, yep, Eddie
Speaker 1: a bunch of videots. It's a dollar. Give me the cowboys.
Speaker 1: Give me the Cowboys. In week five, I'll probably change
Speaker 1: another dollar. I didn't say when they started out over
Speaker 1: for I'm gonna go with the packers so that you know,
Speaker 1: you guys can't hop on the packers. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit on the packers for a little bit. I'll go
Speaker 1: with the packers to win at all. Just we should
Speaker 1: have like a jar and have actual dollar bills. We
Speaker 1: should put it somewhere. But people steal from here. But
Speaker 1: it's only against like five bucks, so it's like a
Speaker 1: big deal. But everybody has, yes, everybody, everybody has two dollars. Yes,
Speaker 1: So just so I'm clear on the rules. Can once
Speaker 1: we pick a team, we can't and then we change
Speaker 1: from that team, we can't come back to that team.
Speaker 1: You can if nobody else is on it. If no
Speaker 1: one else but like Alabama's already been packed, Alabama's on.
Speaker 1: So it's long if one of you Alabamas or me
Speaker 1: move off of it, as long as somebody's still on it,
Speaker 1: it's not open to take. If everybody moves off, somebody
Speaker 1: else can get back on. But if I were to
Speaker 1: get in a week four, then the money's all weirdly
Speaker 1: split up and we gotta do percentages. We got it,
Speaker 1: and if I that's the rules and I don't, I
Speaker 1: have to look back what I said. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: all have our teams here. I do want to talk
Speaker 1: about Draft Kings for a second, because they're awesome and
Speaker 1: they're the reason that I'm doing this, and I've been
Speaker 1: with Draft Kings for a long time as in not
Speaker 1: just spokesperson, I'm not just spokespert, and I'm also a client.
Speaker 1: Um So when we're talking about the futures, the Bills
Speaker 1: are the favorite at plus six hundred, so they nobody
Speaker 1: picked the Bills or the betting favorite. The Bucks are
Speaker 1: at seven plus seven hundred, the Chiefs plus thousands, the
Speaker 1: Packers of plus a thousand, and the Rams of plus
Speaker 1: twelve hundred. So those are your top five teams right
Speaker 1: now if you're gonna bet. But even picking a favorite
Speaker 1: this early, because I'm not a big favorite guy to bet,
Speaker 1: but even picking a favorite, the odds are long enough
Speaker 1: that this early there's still some pretty good money there.
Speaker 1: If you've got Buffalo a plus six hundred eddie, if
Speaker 1: I bet if I've got a hundred bucks on Buffalo
Speaker 1: the plus six hundred, how much of money will I make?
Speaker 1: Uh five dollars? Right, because it would not not counting
Speaker 1: your one eddie. If I bet a hundred bucks, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're all you're almost right. I mean, if it's you're
Speaker 1: not counting. If I bet a hundred bucks Buffalo plus
Speaker 1: six hundred, that is how much money? But so it's seven.
Speaker 1: But it's the one the back exactly. You got it.
Speaker 1: So we've all made our picks. But Draft Kings is awesome.
Speaker 1: It's easy to use. You get your money quick back.
Speaker 1: It's not like some people that we know that go
Speaker 1: through odd foreign places and that's a whole situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't be that guy. Oh yeah, appreciate Draft Kings
Speaker 1: and being a part of it. Here. Let's do this.
Speaker 1: I think this is intric We already kind of got
Speaker 1: on a little bit. But we're gonna do identify your
Speaker 1: team in the first episode, so you know bias the
Speaker 1: whole season. So when people say crap, you know that
Speaker 1: they have a bias. Um, I'll go first. I don't
Speaker 1: have an NFL team, but in the Arkansas player on
Speaker 1: bias four and I'm a massive Arkansas Razorbacks fan. Um,
Speaker 1: but I'm not biased there either, just in case at
Speaker 1: a bias alert. I don't have a college team. I
Speaker 1: went to sam Houston State. I mean, they're decent at
Speaker 1: the Division one, doful, but you're not like following them
Speaker 1: every week? No, no no, no. But on ESPN plus they
Speaker 1: do play some of their games, and I scan it
Speaker 1: on a Saturday and they're playing, I watch it. I
Speaker 1: guess my point with this is if you hear us
Speaker 1: talking about a team in a segment here, so I
Speaker 1: guess Samson says rocking for some reason if they're coming up.
Speaker 1: But so, no college team, but also you're in a
Speaker 1: all teams is the Dallas Cowboys kick off? Kevin uh
Speaker 1: No allegiance to a collegiate team, I'm like you, Or
Speaker 1: I have teams that I don't like and then teams
Speaker 1: that I kind of root for for whatever reason, So
Speaker 1: that's a bias or who do you not like? Because
Speaker 1: I don't like Notre Dame. See I grew up watching them,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a huge fan. I don't like Ohuse State,
Speaker 1: I don't like I might not want to hear this.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma I didn't like Oklahomila till I had to, but
Speaker 1: now I do. I can't hate them anymore. But State
Speaker 1: it's another one. I don't like Texas, USC. I like Texas,
Speaker 1: I don't like USC. Uh. That's pretty much it for
Speaker 1: the most part. NFL, you have a New England had on, Yes,
Speaker 1: Patriots fan. My dad from back East Rhode Island. So
Speaker 1: I grew up in California, but dads from I've never
Speaker 1: met anybody from rhodel Ken just a whole like Mystery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mighty Texas, the Cowboys. Okay, I don't hate people from
Speaker 1: Texas or even individual long Horns, the brand on Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to hate the long Horns. Adam Hamburg, massive
Speaker 1: Razorback fan. This is part of the reason why me
Speaker 1: and Bobby your friends, um and uh. Yeah. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Arkansas, but a lot of my growing up
Speaker 1: was in Mississippi. So I was like the only Arkansas
Speaker 1: Razorback fan within like two hundred miles, and so I
Speaker 1: just like, you know, I just like clung onto that
Speaker 1: as a kid, the Razorbacks and Cowboys. Razorbacks and Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But also since moving to Nashville, it was kind of
Speaker 1: made made space in my heart for the Titans. And
Speaker 1: so it's can have multiple teams, can multiple teams, you
Speaker 1: can't have a one one. That's different conferences, though it
Speaker 1: was now different conferences. You can't have two teams. You
Speaker 1: can root along for two teams, but you can't have
Speaker 1: two teams. You have one team or no teams. Is
Speaker 1: that is that if you have three teams, you have
Speaker 1: no teams. You have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: That's like having multiple favorite teams. Um, okay, so this
Speaker 1: is our first episode and we're today, we're gonna start
Speaker 1: and I've introduced you to Kevin. Now I horribly named
Speaker 1: him kick Off Kevin because I was just like, we
Speaker 1: gotta call you something, and so it's a terrible names
Speaker 1: that you can change it, but we didn't. And so
Speaker 1: in the theme of naming you horribly, I've named your
Speaker 1: segment horribly. So this segment is called kick Off Kevin's
Speaker 1: five question tittle tattle that makes no sense whatsoever, But
Speaker 1: this is this five question tittle tattle where and here's
Speaker 1: the rules And went up to this every time, but
Speaker 1: Kevin will come and he'll bring me five questions about
Speaker 1: NFL and n C double A I will answer it,
Speaker 1: and if you disagree with me, this is your first
Speaker 1: shot at the whistle. If I finish and you disagree,
Speaker 1: blow the whistle and I will come to you and
Speaker 1: you can say your part. I like it. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: seeing I made this up to and I can't disagree. Correct.
Speaker 1: You are in this. You are the reporter. You cannot disagree.
Speaker 1: If later we bring it up again, that's fine, but
Speaker 1: you have to be absolutely impartial. Okay. I see the
Speaker 1: question and I shut my mouth like a good reporter.
Speaker 1: Is okay, first question and the tittle tattle Kevin. Alright,
Speaker 1: which offseason quarterback in the collegiate World transfer will result
Speaker 1: real result in the most wins for their respective program.
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams going to USC Quinn you were is going
Speaker 1: to Texas? Dylan Gabriel to oh You or Jackson Dart
Speaker 1: down to old Miss Jackson Dart's interesting. I mean, all
Speaker 1: those guys are kind of leaving the same place. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like justin Fields and Borough and when you
Speaker 1: know State Georgia, they all kind of just shifted a
Speaker 1: little bit. But that's happening here a little bit. Darts
Speaker 1: interesting because that Lane Kiffin's system is ready to win
Speaker 1: a little bit they have. I think they have a
Speaker 1: pretty decent shot to be competitive in the SEC West. Um,
Speaker 1: the kid at Oklahoma's from UCF. They are good and
Speaker 1: they play in a conference it's not that good, so
Speaker 1: that's a factor. Caleb Williams awesome. I watched him a
Speaker 1: lot because I watched a lot of the games of
Speaker 1: my my wife last year. And when he came in,
Speaker 1: he took over for Spencer Rattler. It was the win
Speaker 1: over Texas. When they came back they wanted. He took
Speaker 1: over the whole game. Uh, that was pretty awesome. And
Speaker 1: who's who's the other option you get? And he hasn't
Speaker 1: even won the job. He's going to be the quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't officially won the job yet, at least
Speaker 1: as we're recording this. Uh, he's the kid from Ohio State.
Speaker 1: He got a million bucks. I think designing pieced out,
Speaker 1: which is gonna be interesting too with Manning coming in
Speaker 1: Arch Manning next year into Texas. Now, if he doesn't play,
Speaker 1: which they're saying he's not going to freshman year, that
Speaker 1: kind of works out because you also have this year
Speaker 1: and next year and then maybe he goes pro. That way,
Speaker 1: you can sit for a year spent a rattlers another
Speaker 1: option in South Carolina. I thought about him, but he
Speaker 1: kind of had a down year last year, so I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but then you're getting getting replaced. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was the odds on favorite to be the first
Speaker 1: round draft pick this year though at one point last year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with but from your options, give me
Speaker 1: your options one more time, just a quarterbacks. Since Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams you see winning yours in Texas dealing Gabriel to Ou,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Gabriel. Gabriel is a good quarterback from
Speaker 1: ucf UM, and I think, oh you, of all those programs,
Speaker 1: has the best shot to actually win a lot of games,
Speaker 1: win that conference, and possibly be in the playoff. So
Speaker 1: that my answer there, all right, who blew the whistle? Me? Adam?
Speaker 1: Blew the whistle? Alright, Adam, because Kayla Williams, he's got
Speaker 1: a way easier road man. The Pack twelve is is
Speaker 1: just not as good as the Big twelve. And I
Speaker 1: can't I can't think of more than three teams that
Speaker 1: should beat usc UM and so I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: at least win nine nine games. They have to win
Speaker 1: nine games. I think Oklahoma wins ten or eleven. They might.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's gonna beat them. Texas. Listen, Tech,
Speaker 1: I know Tech, he's got a first place vote. Texas
Speaker 1: is always just a craft shoot. And then they still
Speaker 1: have to get by Baylor, they had to give by
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, and and I don't know that they can
Speaker 1: win those in our first year head coach. Those are
Speaker 1: all like really good programs right now, I would now
Speaker 1: I don't agree with, but Ventables has been in Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: so it's not like that's all new to him. He
Speaker 1: was defensive coordinated there for a long time. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: still going to Oklahoma. You blew your whistle. Now you're
Speaker 1: you're off the show. All right, that's my answer. That's
Speaker 1: number one. Give me ever two? All right. Do you
Speaker 1: think Rams quarterback Matt staffords sore elbow will be the
Speaker 1: downfall of l A's chance as repeating as Super Bowl champions?
Speaker 1: I mean downfall. No, I think it's gonna be something
Speaker 1: they have to watch, and I think they'll have to
Speaker 1: play a little different because of that. I think they'll
Speaker 1: probably not be able to run their offense as freely
Speaker 1: as they possibly would want to, even if he's feeling
Speaker 1: pretty good. I think they just gotta. They have to
Speaker 1: monitor it and take care of it, even if it's
Speaker 1: not killing it at Tendonita sucks and I never even
Speaker 1: had it at a level like that, but I had it,
Speaker 1: and it was for four months. Had it worked on
Speaker 1: dry needled, I had. I did everything to it. Um
Speaker 1: so downfall. No, and their defense is so good that
Speaker 1: they could actually keep them in it or not mine.
Speaker 1: They could actually still win a whole lot of freaking games.
Speaker 1: So no, And I think Stafford will probably be fine
Speaker 1: at the end of it. It's not like it's throwing elbow.
Speaker 1: It's that he's coming off reconstructive surgery. So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: They're still in it. They still have a chance, all right.
Speaker 1: Next one, Okay, old faces and new places for the
Speaker 1: wider evers. This year, will they have open or under
Speaker 1: their two thousand twenty one totals will start with Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill with receiving yards in one had one thousand, two
Speaker 1: hundred thirty nine. But two is this quarterback And I know,
Speaker 1: like people hate too and they say you can't throw.
Speaker 1: I've been watching the Dolphins practice videos and I'm only
Speaker 1: seen the ones Dolphins ones want me to see. They're
Speaker 1: looking pretty good. Like Tyrenk is running fast everybody. He
Speaker 1: was it on Instagram, it was on Twitter. Actually, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with under only because it is to it
Speaker 1: and not my homes. Uh, they're gonna really, I mean,
Speaker 1: waddle is so good. Here's the thing about Miami though,
Speaker 1: They've got a couple elite wide receivers where the Chiefs didn't.
Speaker 1: She's had a great tight end. But I don't feel
Speaker 1: like they could open it. Why don't can fly to
Speaker 1: Like you got two of the fastest guys in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go under because of the quarterback and
Speaker 1: not because I think I like to. Uh, but two
Speaker 1: is not my homes, so gonna go under. Give me
Speaker 1: another one, all right? A. J. Brown twenty one or
Speaker 1: two one touchdowns, had five over under five this year
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. I think he has more. I think
Speaker 1: his quarterback situation is slightly improved. I don't think that
Speaker 1: he's going to a quarterback that's going to change his life.
Speaker 1: I think he's got money that will change his life now,
Speaker 1: which is the Titans didn't want to pay him, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say more because I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: more of a focus in that offense where Tannehill they
Speaker 1: threw a bit and he was they tried to make
Speaker 1: him the focus. They trying to make Julio the focus
Speaker 1: whenever he was not hurt, but he was also hurt
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I'm gonna go he's gonna have
Speaker 1: more in Philadelphia, Okay, And Davante Adams to twoptions had
Speaker 1: a dree over under twenty three this year under just
Speaker 1: because Renfroze there, uh, that system, he will get he
Speaker 1: will get a lot of balls. But um, you know
Speaker 1: between renfro Ah Davante Adams Ah that the tied end
Speaker 1: in in Vegas is really good to Waller last year
Speaker 1: came out and kind of came out of nowhere as
Speaker 1: far as the production he had. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with still no, but I think they have a lot
Speaker 1: more options and I think he'll he will perform wonderfully,
Speaker 1: just won't get as many catches. All right, next question? Alright.
Speaker 1: Former pit wide receiver Jordan Adison, who transferred the USC
Speaker 1: this off season, recently said I definitely felt like I
Speaker 1: got drugged through the mud with the media after catching
Speaker 1: scrutiny from leaving Pit to go to USC Is this
Speaker 1: new era of college football free agency? Bad or good
Speaker 1: for the game? If you worked at a business, Eddie,
Speaker 1: let's say you work at a business. Let's let's call
Speaker 1: it Eddie's Cattle Company. Love, it's where do you work
Speaker 1: at your own company? But I and Eddie's cattle company
Speaker 1: made ten bucks a year and that was what everybody made.
Speaker 1: And my company makes ten dollars a year. Just follow
Speaker 1: me along. I'm keeping the numbers lower kill and Eddie's Cattle.
Speaker 1: Eddie's Cattle Company the next year made twenty bucks for
Speaker 1: a whole year. You like doubled, right, Hey, yeah, you
Speaker 1: do this. It's Eddie cattle companies growing in popularity. You
Speaker 1: just you've signed and uh different little deals for your
Speaker 1: cattle to go to certain places. Now, now five years later,
Speaker 1: Eddi's Cattle Company has gone from ten bucks a year
Speaker 1: to a thousand dollars. Let's go, you're there's so much
Speaker 1: money coming into the cattle company. Now, do you think
Speaker 1: that the people that are doing the work to make
Speaker 1: that money deserve to be paid more? You're asking me,
Speaker 1: as the owner of my Eddie's cattle come asking you,
Speaker 1: as a person sitting right here, do you think that
Speaker 1: the people that are actually making the doing the work
Speaker 1: should be paid a little more for the job that
Speaker 1: they're doing. This making more money, treat your people right, Yes,
Speaker 1: they will work harder for you. So this is a
Speaker 1: macro perspective of that. Yes, he's been dragged through the mud.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not him though he's basically a free agent.
Speaker 1: He let that be known. People were bidding for him. Um,
Speaker 1: players should make money because the n C Double A
Speaker 1: is college football is cru NFL been killing it for
Speaker 1: a while. They're making so much money in college football,
Speaker 1: the TV deals. You've had to have a billion dollar
Speaker 1: Big ten deal, a bit with a b billion dollar
Speaker 1: and so. But the only people who shouldn't get paid
Speaker 1: to the people they're actually doing the work. So I'm
Speaker 1: a big We should pay people for what they're doing.
Speaker 1: And I I understand people are going with this. College football
Speaker 1: like what he used to be. The only other thing
Speaker 1: that I could compare it to was the It was
Speaker 1: controversial when they started to give athletes scholarships because even
Speaker 1: back then they were like, wait, you're gonna pay You're
Speaker 1: gonna pay for their college to play. They should just
Speaker 1: play the sport for love of the game. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing. It's just more money and you and more
Speaker 1: people know about it now because of social media. You're
Speaker 1: you're paying them with a free education. Then college of
Speaker 1: ball didn't make a whole bunch of money, but now
Speaker 1: it's killing And so he was dragged with the mud.
Speaker 1: He deserves it, but he also deserves what he gets
Speaker 1: on the other side of the good stuff too. So
Speaker 1: that's the name of the game. You're public, you're making money,
Speaker 1: you get dragged to I get dressed with the mud
Speaker 1: all time. Do I deserve it? Sometimes? Uh? But I'm
Speaker 1: a big n I L fan. I think profit revenue
Speaker 1: sharing will be a thing with players. I think players
Speaker 1: should be paid. End. Your question was is it fair
Speaker 1: for him? You do you think it's good or bad
Speaker 1: for the game. It's good. It's good. They'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: It's a wild West right now. It's a little too wild,
Speaker 1: but you gotta go full while west before you can
Speaker 1: shut it down a little bit true, all right? Right?
Speaker 1: Next question, how is this the fifth tittle tattle or fourth?
Speaker 1: This is the last one, fifth and final one? The
Speaker 1: last three champions in college football have come from the SEC,
Speaker 1: and Alabama is the favorite. Again, if picking today, are
Speaker 1: you choosing the SEC or the field? Come January? The
Speaker 1: SE is probably gonna have one in it. So I'm
Speaker 1: just doing odds here, not about Alabama or Georgia. But
Speaker 1: if the SEC has this person in the championship game,
Speaker 1: that's still fifty fifty. I'm gonna go SEC. I'm big
Speaker 1: SEC homer, But if I'm just doing probabilities, I would
Speaker 1: still go SEC. New you said Alabama and Georgia and
Speaker 1: that's it versus the field. Maybe I feel a little
Speaker 1: different about that because I feel like somebody could squeak
Speaker 1: up and probably surprise one of those two teams on
Speaker 1: one of the sides. Possibly surprise those are my two
Speaker 1: words I'm using. I don't think they will, but the
Speaker 1: SEC is tough, so I would take the secure alright, Hey,
Speaker 1: kick off, Kevin, terrible name, tittle tattle, terrible name for
Speaker 1: a segment, but not bad. What the whole segment? Adam
Speaker 1: Blue whistle and he has big balls and he's done though.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um so. Dan Patrick love him, Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: Radio Show, Dan Patrick, ESPN, Dan Patrick Sun Night Football.
Speaker 1: I was honored it was amazing, And here's my interview
Speaker 1: with Dan Patrick. Whoa Dan, good to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I'm big, just massive fan, just a massive, massive fans.
Speaker 1: So you know when they said you would actually spend
Speaker 1: a few minutes with me, I I was shocked first
Speaker 1: of all and elated. So just humble thank you before
Speaker 1: we start. Great, great, glad to Glad to hill. You know,
Speaker 1: whenever I'm doing an interview and in one capacity or
Speaker 1: the other, I do them all the day, all the time,
Speaker 1: either on the radio show or on a TV show,
Speaker 1: But I it starts to just be a wheel and
Speaker 1: you're just doing them as they come, and you rarely
Speaker 1: get excited. Sometimes you're a little more up for one
Speaker 1: because you know the value of a bit. At this
Speaker 1: point in your career, do you still get about interviews
Speaker 1: and with who especially? I think if you have somebody
Speaker 1: who's going to be honest with you, because you want
Speaker 1: to make sure you're not wasting the time of your audience.
Speaker 1: And I always want to make sure if I have
Speaker 1: somebody on maybe you don't know who they are, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring out something in them that you would
Speaker 1: be interested in. I like the challenge of doing that,
Speaker 1: but it's the person who's going to be honest or
Speaker 1: most honest that I find interesting. It's the person who
Speaker 1: tries to dodge what you're asking, doesn't give you much,
Speaker 1: wants to be very vanilla. Then that's where it gets
Speaker 1: really tedious. Give me an example, somebody who's great that
Speaker 1: you know, all right, we're gonna do it, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. Charles Barkley is always great, Reggie Miller
Speaker 1: is always great. I find that if you know my
Speaker 1: guests know if they come on the show that this
Speaker 1: is what we're asking them to do, don't come on
Speaker 1: the show unless you're ready to really give something, reveals something.
Speaker 1: But it's up to me sometimes to kind of extract
Speaker 1: them that from these guys. They get interviewed more than anybody.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, athletes are interviewed more than anybody.
Speaker 1: You know where they are, you know, every day at practice, um,
Speaker 1: you know, before a game, after a game with the NBA.
Speaker 1: You have to have an approach that is refreshing to
Speaker 1: them and their competitors. And I find I got to
Speaker 1: compete with you to get an answer out of you.
Speaker 1: John McEnroe said, you gotta work harder to get a
Speaker 1: better answer out of me. And he was right. This
Speaker 1: was early in my career and I never forgot that
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta work harder to get a better answer
Speaker 1: out of somebody. Do you feel like you're a better
Speaker 1: interviewee because you interview so many people? Because you know,
Speaker 1: what I'll do is all critique your questions while you're
Speaker 1: asking them, and it's not fair to you. But I've
Speaker 1: given so much thought to interviewing. When I was at ESPN,
Speaker 1: I did a seminar that was five days, eight hours
Speaker 1: each day on interviewing. It was the best thing that
Speaker 1: ever happened to me in my career. But it's the
Speaker 1: worst thing when you start to listen to radio or
Speaker 1: you listen to somebody on TV doing interviews, because you're
Speaker 1: listening for the things that they're not doing what you
Speaker 1: were told to do to bring out a good interview.
Speaker 1: Open ended questions, short question, You know that first question,
Speaker 1: what are you setting up for the next question? For
Speaker 1: your last question? What are you trying to get at?
Speaker 1: Like there's a strategy to it. And I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: known this until I took this class. It was a
Speaker 1: guy named John Swatsky out of Canada. It was the
Speaker 1: master of the interview, and I was fascinated by it. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know who else, if anybody else was at ESPN.
Speaker 1: They they were mad at me because I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring this guy in to teach us how to interview,
Speaker 1: because I saw an article and people are like kicking
Speaker 1: and screaming going to this seminar, and they didn't realize
Speaker 1: that I'm the reason why they were going there, because
Speaker 1: I wanted this guy to come in and help us.
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about the ESPN stuff, and
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of questions about that, and
Speaker 1: I still don't, but it makes me think about, you know,
Speaker 1: my whole lifetime of watching you on ESPN and even
Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Jeopardy, which I was a big Jeopardy
Speaker 1: guys and a music guy obviously, and then you know,
Speaker 1: watch on Sunday nights and I would come home from
Speaker 1: the radio show and watch your radio show, you and
Speaker 1: all the dan neds, like just a massive fan. But
Speaker 1: you know, I've started to realize that I, as a
Speaker 1: public figure, people think they know me at times more
Speaker 1: than they actually do, and they'll come up and and so,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that I'm most curious about.
Speaker 1: It's like if you go to your house and I
Speaker 1: feel like I know, yeah, but I obviously don't on
Speaker 1: a personal level, like in your house, what is your
Speaker 1: favorite picture in your house? Which if I just asked
Speaker 1: that question, what is it, who's in it? I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of the artist Wolf Khan. He passed away.
Speaker 1: I think he was just over the age of ninety.
Speaker 1: And you can't be in a bad mood when you
Speaker 1: look at a painting of Wolf Khan. Now pictures. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a picture of my daughter in the library where
Speaker 1: she's in Galway and she's in a mud puddle and
Speaker 1: she's probably eleven years of age, and she's got mud
Speaker 1: all over her. She's thrown mud in the air, and
Speaker 1: she's got the biggest smile and it's one of those
Speaker 1: moments that you just go that person is having a
Speaker 1: great day. So I tend to gravitate towards you feel
Speaker 1: better after you you see that picture and you see
Speaker 1: a painting from Wolf Kan. What about if I ask
Speaker 1: about sports, what personal sports picture do you have? Either
Speaker 1: you're somewhere with someone that you look at and it's
Speaker 1: not it doesn't mean as much because obviously that's your daughter.
Speaker 1: But it's like, man, that was a great moment, either
Speaker 1: in sports life or my life. I was in a
Speaker 1: boxing ring. It was fight night in Arizona, and I
Speaker 1: was the host and we were honoring Mohammed Ali and
Speaker 1: we were going to give him this ring, and Mohammed
Speaker 1: Ali is standing next to me waiting for me to
Speaker 1: give him this ring. And I'm describing to the audience
Speaker 1: what this ring signifies, and I'm going to hand this
Speaker 1: to Mohammed Ali. And you know that this was probably
Speaker 1: a twenty years ago, but you know Parkinson's the onset
Speaker 1: of Parkinson had started there. And I just remember in
Speaker 1: the moment, I'm thinking I'm gonna give a ring to
Speaker 1: Mohammed Ali, and I sort of fanboyd that. I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta get this out of my head, because I
Speaker 1: sometimes that's the problem. I have too many things I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of when I'm doing something that I shouldn't be
Speaker 1: thinking about. But that moment where I look and I go,
Speaker 1: who would have thought that a kid came from a
Speaker 1: small town in Ohio is there with Mohammed Ali, honoring
Speaker 1: Mohammed Ali, And I'm it's never lost on me where
Speaker 1: I came from and growing up in a big family,
Speaker 1: that I came a long way, but that you can
Speaker 1: come from a small town where you never would have
Speaker 1: thought you've gotten there. So it brings out a lot
Speaker 1: of different thoughts memories there of you're still this kid
Speaker 1: who was from Mason, Ohio, but you got here. Don't
Speaker 1: forget where you came from from Mountain Pine, Arkansas, population
Speaker 1: seven uh So similar instances, you know, growing up and
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of resource where I came from.
Speaker 1: So how what showed you and who showed you that
Speaker 1: there was actually a path to greater even though you
Speaker 1: couldn't quite define greater. I think I was too naive
Speaker 1: or stupid to let reality sink in and that you
Speaker 1: can't do this. I didn't have a plan b So
Speaker 1: when people said, oh, if you weren't gonna be a
Speaker 1: sports conister, what would you be? And I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I'm guessing bartender. But I
Speaker 1: I didn't know, and I had been rejected in quite
Speaker 1: a few places. I lost a job, local job in Dayton, Ohio,
Speaker 1: and I was distraught. So I'm I'm twenty six seven,
Speaker 1: I don't have a full time job in sports, and
Speaker 1: that's old in this business to get started, and I
Speaker 1: thought I'm never gonna get I was doing morning drive
Speaker 1: radio rock and roll station, and I thought, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be doing. And the next girlfriend said,
Speaker 1: just come down to Atlanta. I said, day I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to Atlanta. She goes, no, just come
Speaker 1: down here. CNN's hiring. I go, I just I lost
Speaker 1: out on a job in Dayton, Ohio. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to get a job at CNN. So I go down there,
Speaker 1: lo and behold. I go in there last day I'm
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Give him my resume. Tape guy says, when
Speaker 1: can you start? So if I don't go to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I'm not here. I mean I'm somewhere, but I'm not
Speaker 1: here because CNN. I was there for five years and
Speaker 1: after that I went to ESPN for eight team. So
Speaker 1: I always tell people right place, right time, But you
Speaker 1: better be right about what you have to know, like
Speaker 1: you have to know it if you get that opportunity.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that at some point somebody wanted to
Speaker 1: see if you knew exactly what you needed to know,
Speaker 1: and you did, or you wouldn't be seated there like
Speaker 1: we get those moments, but be ready for the moment.
Speaker 1: And that was something that stayed with me, stays with me.
Speaker 1: I tell that to my kids all the time. Be prepared,
Speaker 1: be overprepared, even if you don't get it, you'll still
Speaker 1: show that that person you you showed them respect by
Speaker 1: being prepared. You mentioned eighteen years at ESPN, and I
Speaker 1: worked on American Idol for four seasons, and I would
Speaker 1: talk to some of the old contestants from back when
Speaker 1: Idol was so big, and but they said they didn't
Speaker 1: know it, they couldn't feel it because they were in it. Now.
Speaker 1: ESPN was a culture, especially for me, Was that situation
Speaker 1: similar because you guys weren't changing culture. Did you know
Speaker 1: it and could you feel it then? Or was it
Speaker 1: its own bubble? We were cordoned off, absolutely, and I
Speaker 1: think that's by design by management. They didn't want us
Speaker 1: to be bigger than those four letters, not that we
Speaker 1: could be, but they didn't want us coloring outside the lines.
Speaker 1: Management even told me on one occasion, we don't want
Speaker 1: another Chris Berman, because Berman is the most important person
Speaker 1: in the history of ESPN. But he was sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, a hot air balloon that was higher than
Speaker 1: everybody else but still tethered. And they didn't want that.
Speaker 1: They didn't want that to happen to me or Keith
Speaker 1: Oberman or Stewart Scott or whoever you want to throw
Speaker 1: in there. So they didn't want you to be a personality.
Speaker 1: Um So I think that that was kind of eye
Speaker 1: opening that we were getting honored. Mentioned. Uh, people came
Speaker 1: up to us when we saw them when we were
Speaker 1: out of events, but we weren't in New York or
Speaker 1: l A. We're in Bristol, Connecticut. We didn't run into anybody,
Speaker 1: but when we did, then you heard the impact that
Speaker 1: we were having. And you kind of juxtaposed that too
Speaker 1: management that we never knew our ratings. They never told us.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't want to empower you and say,
Speaker 1: you guys are really kicking ass here. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys solid and improving, you know, kind of doing
Speaker 1: a good job there. You're like, damn, I thought I
Speaker 1: thought we were good. But that was that was eye
Speaker 1: opening there that management wanted to kind of keep us
Speaker 1: under their thumb. Final question about the ESPN days and
Speaker 1: as far as when who is would you say as
Speaker 1: your BFF. Now from those days, if you had to
Speaker 1: pick one, oh, I would say that I correspond with
Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and more than anybody else, the people I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed were producers, associate producers, the makeup people, camera people.
Speaker 1: Those are the people I always enjoyed being around. Nobody
Speaker 1: wants to be around talent because all we do is
Speaker 1: talk about ourselves. I wanted to be around the people
Speaker 1: who were just normal or as normal as possible in
Speaker 1: our business. And those are the people I'm still in
Speaker 1: touch with. Uh more the producers than the talent there,
Speaker 1: but probably Rich Eyes. Where does conference realignment end or
Speaker 1: where is it in five years? From where you sit
Speaker 1: right now, I still think we're headed towards an a
Speaker 1: f C NFC model with college football, where we just say,
Speaker 1: let's let's pull back the curtain. Let's not kill anybody.
Speaker 1: This is big time business. Have revenue sharing, UM gonna
Speaker 1: treat them like their professionals, which they are. And I
Speaker 1: think you might have thirty teams in the NFC version
Speaker 1: and thirty she has sixty teams. Let's say a sixteen
Speaker 1: team playoff, and you know you might have relegation where
Speaker 1: maybe the sixty team drops out with the team that
Speaker 1: won the national championship in one double A or or
Speaker 1: something that creates excitement at the top and the bottom.
Speaker 1: But I do think we're headed towards let's just have
Speaker 1: the fifty or sixty sixty best college football teams actually
Speaker 1: compete for a national championship and then you have everybody
Speaker 1: else after that with the fluidity of realignment or even
Speaker 1: in I L, like let's do five years in the future.
Speaker 1: There what's different about the n I L structure in
Speaker 1: five years? If you're just playing psychic then is today? Well,
Speaker 1: the coaches have to embrace this. You know, when Kirby's
Speaker 1: Smart at Georgia signs a ten million dollar a year contract,
Speaker 1: but then bemoans the fact that we're paying these players
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars, like,
Speaker 1: have a dose in reality here. Now you're getting paid
Speaker 1: and you don't want them to get paid. Your job
Speaker 1: is tougher because of name, image and like, plain and simple,
Speaker 1: these coaches, I don't care if it's Nick Saban, Kirby Smart,
Speaker 1: whoever it is. This makes your you know, the transfer
Speaker 1: portal name image and likeness makes it difficult. But when
Speaker 1: the source says to me, you know, the going rate
Speaker 1: for a running back is this price, the going rate
Speaker 1: for a quarterback is this, and the going rate for
Speaker 1: a wide It's almost like you have a list, like
Speaker 1: a men you where you go? How much is the stake?
Speaker 1: It's this, um you know, how much is that? It's
Speaker 1: that that's where we're headed with all. We're already there.
Speaker 1: So I think embracing name, image and likeness, maybe you
Speaker 1: kind of put them all under the same umbrella. Maybe
Speaker 1: you're you're paying them. Maybe there's a salary cap that
Speaker 1: you have. I got. You can't say that won't happen
Speaker 1: because look at where we are now. Who would have
Speaker 1: thought Texas and Oklahoma would be in the sec U,
Speaker 1: c l A and USC going to the big tent. See,
Speaker 1: you can't say, well, I don't ever happen, because in
Speaker 1: college football it could happen. And I think, as we
Speaker 1: move forward with this, how much are the players involved
Speaker 1: in this? Do we come up with legislation that limits this?
Speaker 1: I mean, you still have to declare this is income here,
Speaker 1: so it's got to be above board. And I think
Speaker 1: that that kind of takes away the If you take
Speaker 1: away name, image, and likeness. Bobby, you're going to have
Speaker 1: back to the old days of cheating. This is just
Speaker 1: above board. It's like, hey, would you give him a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars? Okay? Whereas before would be like do
Speaker 1: you hear what Eric Dickerson got at s m U
Speaker 1: gave him a trans am and they gave his MoMA house.
Speaker 1: You know that that was always the kind of whispers
Speaker 1: behind all of the Now it's above board, Like Zion Williamson,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he got a duke, but he
Speaker 1: got something right, Yeah, yeah, but you know these guys
Speaker 1: get money. It may not be from the school, the coach,
Speaker 1: but the shoe company. So it's here. It's been here
Speaker 1: now at least it's above board. But five years down
Speaker 1: the road, I don't know what the goling salary is
Speaker 1: going to be. But a a star quarterback, you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a NFL like they're making more money
Speaker 1: when you factor that in, Alabama's quarterback Heisman Trophy winner
Speaker 1: made more than the previous quarterback at Alabama, Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL, So he makes more money at
Speaker 1: Alabama than Jalen Hurts does in the NFL. Crazy, But
Speaker 1: that's the reality we have right now. And the fact
Speaker 1: that it's snuck up on all these chancellors and presidents
Speaker 1: and athletic directors is like mind boggling because it was
Speaker 1: there to see the final three questions. Okay, talking about quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you mentioned Arch, there's not a lot of not a
Speaker 1: lot of Arch not just tape, but not a lot
Speaker 1: of Arch data. He's not competing against other quarterbacks at
Speaker 1: that high school level. He's not going to camps where
Speaker 1: what do you see happening with Arch Manning. Well, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of hype. You know, Bryce Harper lived up
Speaker 1: to it. Lebron James lived up to it. There there
Speaker 1: have been players who live up to the hype, but
Speaker 1: as far as an NFL quarterback hype, boy, this is
Speaker 1: up there. I mean, this is bigger than Eli or
Speaker 1: even Peyton the hype living up to you know, Archie
Speaker 1: Manning at Old Us when he was up for the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. I just wonder, can you be good enough
Speaker 1: where people go? Man, he's everything we thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be, Like Tiger Woods was everything we thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be, and then some Serena Williams
Speaker 1: everything we thought and then some I don't know if Arch,
Speaker 1: because it's based off of the people around you. He's
Speaker 1: relying on that. Bryce Harper goes to the plate, it's
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper. Lebron James can have the ball in his hands.
Speaker 1: Tiger has a club in his hand. You know, Serena
Speaker 1: has her tennis racket. Arch is gonna have to how
Speaker 1: good is his offensive line, how's goods his wide receivers
Speaker 1: like those? Is his defense any good to stop anybody?
Speaker 1: Those are the things that you have to factor in it.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if you'll be able to live up
Speaker 1: to that hype. I doubt it because that hype is
Speaker 1: so much, so big. You mentioned the word source. How
Speaker 1: hard is it to have a source that's telling you
Speaker 1: something but you can't say it, and you almost have
Speaker 1: to act like you don't know it. For the most part,
Speaker 1: I don't want to know if I can't use it.
Speaker 1: I say that too, And I'm fortunate having been in
Speaker 1: this business for almost forty years. You meet people that
Speaker 1: you trust because you can go back to them or
Speaker 1: they'll come. They'll they'll let you know if you're right
Speaker 1: or wrong on something. But I I don't want to
Speaker 1: know something that I can't even hint at because then
Speaker 1: I'm not being Then it's gossipy and I don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. But it is a tough situation to
Speaker 1: be in. Sometimes if somebody goes, hey, you can't use it,
Speaker 1: I don't, then don't tell me because I don't want
Speaker 1: to know. But when they're like, you didn't get it
Speaker 1: from me, which is different, but sources can be tricky.
Speaker 1: Last question, and this has really been a treat for me,
Speaker 1: way more for so for you. And I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: rated this and given it a low grade what you do.
Speaker 1: And as soon as you said that, I'm like, god, dang,
Speaker 1: And now I am going to actually feel like I
Speaker 1: bean critique during the interview. I didn't feel like that
Speaker 1: going in. But final question is, uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: about to go through a big contract negotiation here with
Speaker 1: a right so you know, and it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: quite the monster. I'm not gonna lie to you. What's
Speaker 1: what's the What am I? What am I not knowing
Speaker 1: to ask for? What is it you don't have? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm pretty good. Yes, I always look at
Speaker 1: it this way. I love for fifteen years being at
Speaker 1: ESPN and I could have gotten jobs outside of it,
Speaker 1: but I loved what I was doing. But you can't
Speaker 1: tell them that you love it so much that you
Speaker 1: don't factor in what you're worth outside of what you're doing.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense that, hey, on the open market,
Speaker 1: what would I be worth? Take care of me here?
Speaker 1: And I always took less, but I didn't have any
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do anything else. So do what
Speaker 1: you love. And it's really hard to find that because
Speaker 1: if you let money be the carrot that's in front
Speaker 1: of you, you'll always chase it and you'll never be satisfied.
Speaker 1: But if you have people you like you've got, you know,
Speaker 1: they make sure that the people who are surrounding you
Speaker 1: are good people, fun people. I love seeing my guys
Speaker 1: every single day. We just laugh. I mean, you're serious
Speaker 1: when you need to be, but we have fun. I
Speaker 1: enjoy them. And it's twenty years for some of these guys.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the moment you know that you've
Speaker 1: got to kind of go. And if you say to
Speaker 1: your wife, what do you think, because sometimes it's my
Speaker 1: wife is the smartest person, and you know, you get
Speaker 1: somebody on the outside kind of looking at all this
Speaker 1: because we get too close to the sun and you
Speaker 1: don't want to be icarous here and you know, go
Speaker 1: down in flame. So do what you love as long
Speaker 1: as you can do it, or you can just take
Speaker 1: a shipload of money and then running with it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was hoping for like airplane. That's I'm just massive fan,
Speaker 1: just massive, And thank you for your time and um
Speaker 1: you know that's all. And I know you've got a
Speaker 1: busy day of head so thank you very much. And
Speaker 1: one day, hopefully I hope I can touch you soon.
Speaker 1: I would Uh yeah, I hope we crossed paths. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on all your success, and I think that it's not
Speaker 1: by accident, you know, but I think that that's important
Speaker 1: as you move move forward, don't forget the kid from
Speaker 1: a small town in Arkansas, because stay in humble, because
Speaker 1: this business will bite you in the ass quickly. Thank you, Dan,
Speaker 1: have a good day. Thank you, Bobby. Alright, awesome to
Speaker 1: have Dan Patrick on you guys. Follow us at twenty
Speaker 1: five whistles Instagram. We got like five pictures up. I
Speaker 1: hate going to an Instagram page whe they don't have
Speaker 1: the even the thing covered, it's still white under some
Speaker 1: of the pictures. Yeah, you feel like a loser, Like
Speaker 1: who would follow that? And I'm like, please follow us. Uh.
Speaker 1: So that's a story I will share with you guys,
Speaker 1: and you can tell me if I'm a weirdo or not.
Speaker 1: And I want to pull up exactly what I got here.
Speaker 1: But there was an estate sale from a former Arkansas
Speaker 1: and Adam, you're almost eliminated from this because of your bias.
Speaker 1: There was an estate sale from a former Arkansas UH sportscaster,
Speaker 1: like probably the most famous in my life. He died
Speaker 1: years ago in a car car wreck, as Paul Eels.
Speaker 1: He died, and so his I guess why his family
Speaker 1: they auctioned off a bunch of his stuff, and so
Speaker 1: I just told about it. So I went over to it.
Speaker 1: How about all kinds of stuff? Oh my gosh, Mike,
Speaker 1: did you just laugh at that? I bought all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff like Paul El's estate sale? Um, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? How? I'm like, how much stuff did you buy? Well?
Speaker 1: I bought like a couple in the box still Arkansas
Speaker 1: razorback cheerleader barbies. Are you serious? Like what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do with this? I don't know, but I was
Speaker 1: like one it's Paul Els doing I don't know. And
Speaker 1: for that, somebody started bidding against me, and so I
Speaker 1: started getting competitive bucks on there's two barbies. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Granny and Sheridan is piste. So that happened. I
Speaker 1: bought like some old cool Here we go, let's see
Speaker 1: what I got here. Please log into your account below.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll just show me what all I bought and
Speaker 1: this will be easy. I bought like some old signs
Speaker 1: stuff by nobody that's super cool to any buddy but me. Um, Like,
Speaker 1: I bought a Houston Nuts signed football who was fired
Speaker 1: as the coach. That was cool. Yeah. I bought some
Speaker 1: old sweatshirts. They're like extra two x large. Will you
Speaker 1: wear them? Nightgowns? Yeah? There you go. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: bought like seven things. Is it weird that I went
Speaker 1: through a Sportscasters estate sale and bought a bunch of
Speaker 1: Razorbacks stuff? Kickoff, Kevin, No, I mean some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that you bought, for sure, like the Barbie's maybe
Speaker 1: a little weird questionable, But going or buying stuff from
Speaker 1: the state sale, No, I mean that's something that you,
Speaker 1: as you said your childhood growing up. He was a
Speaker 1: big impact in your childhood and your big sports fan,
Speaker 1: big Arkansas fans, so totally normal. I bought the football
Speaker 1: Fever package, a bunch of sign crap. I bought the
Speaker 1: forty minutes nineties sweatshirts forty minutes of hell. They were
Speaker 1: extra extra large. I'm not gonna wear that. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means. It's fort hell. Nolan Richardson's basketball
Speaker 1: they play the full court pressed the whole time. The
Speaker 1: whole game, they would just run people off the court.
Speaker 1: I bought the two. Yeah, it makes her a good
Speaker 1: story if nothing else. He died. I bought it. I
Speaker 1: should get it in the next few days, and I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty cool. Most importantly, what does your wife
Speaker 1: think about all this? And her, well, I didn't tell
Speaker 1: her already bought it all and it was already on
Speaker 1: the way because I did tell her, But in her
Speaker 1: response was why what are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I just want to have it,
Speaker 1: and she was like okay, and so I I had.
Speaker 1: And she said, look, if I didn't know you were
Speaker 1: so responsible with the money, I would go, why are
Speaker 1: you buying that? You just wasted money? She was I
Speaker 1: know you're responsible, but I also know you're extra rabbid,
Speaker 1: and that's just what I deal with every day. So
Speaker 1: I will bring it in and let you guys know.
Speaker 1: Imnbe let you touch some of us. Okay, cool, I
Speaker 1: want to touch the barbies. One final one here Costco
Speaker 1: selling individual game football tickets in South Carolina where you
Speaker 1: can go through Costco and they have boxes and it's
Speaker 1: like buy individual game tickets, which I was pretty legit
Speaker 1: because it's like, hey, buy individual game ticket. Usually you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a casual fan, I
Speaker 1: can get my phone out of there. But if you're
Speaker 1: going through their inner package at Costco and you're in
Speaker 1: South Carolina and you're like, oh, I like to go
Speaker 1: to this game, it's tangible, you can buy it. That's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. People were giving a crap, but that was brilliant.
Speaker 1: So if you're in South Carolina, would go a game
Speaker 1: called game and they may actually be pretty good this year.
Speaker 1: We shall see. They played well last year. At the
Speaker 1: end of the year, they have a good coach. We'll
Speaker 1: Spencer Relligan a really good quarterback. Regardless of what happened,
Speaker 1: he's still a really good quarterback. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: in that system. Um So those are those two. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to the Sam Pittman interview. Now, we didn't
Speaker 1: talk a lot about Arkansas specifically, but he is the
Speaker 1: head football coach the Unversity of Arkansas and it's awesome
Speaker 1: to have him on. So here it is my interview
Speaker 1: with Sam Pittman, coach. How are you man? I'm doing great. Hey,
Speaker 1: I've been good. You know, I've been trying to catch
Speaker 1: some practice reports. Like at this point before the season starts,
Speaker 1: as you guys are in camp, are you more nervous excited?
Speaker 1: Are you always thinking football now? Is there a switch
Speaker 1: that flips on? Yeah, I'm really excited about the progress
Speaker 1: of guys from spring Bold and out. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to see the new guys, you know, the ones that
Speaker 1: weren't here. Uh there's only four of them, but you know,
Speaker 1: the guys that weren't here, Uh, see them participate, see
Speaker 1: how good they are, see them grow. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a big time excitement around Fatteville and certainly in our
Speaker 1: building and through our players about you know, the season.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask you to name anybody, but it's
Speaker 1: always coming out of high school into college. Heck, just
Speaker 1: as a student, it's overwhelming much less you're seventeen than
Speaker 1: you go eighteen years old and now you're you know,
Speaker 1: competing for a spot against year old. Any of these
Speaker 1: freshmen in your time that come in, they're very had
Speaker 1: heralded and they get there and they're like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's happening. Like these guys are all bigger and faster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it happens all the time. But you know, you can
Speaker 1: wear yourself out anxiety wise. The first day we went
Speaker 1: out to practice, there's a hundred fifteen heatd index. It's
Speaker 1: a hot out there. But you you combine that with
Speaker 1: a new guy that has an anxiety, Uh, they're all
Speaker 1: over the place. The next day it was one twelve
Speaker 1: heat into x but they were much better. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: so anxiety that's a little bit Bobby about going over
Speaker 1: into the stadium on a Saturday. You're gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of anxiety if you're not prepared or you don't know. Uh.
Speaker 1: If you are prepared and you know and and you've
Speaker 1: taken the I hope we win to I know we're
Speaker 1: gonna win because I'm prepared in this I think you
Speaker 1: play a lot better. So these kids that come in,
Speaker 1: we didn't put a whole lot of value into day one. Uh,
Speaker 1: day two, a little bit more, Day three, and of
Speaker 1: course the day will be our fourth practice. If a
Speaker 1: hundred four star freshman come in, let's play with me here,
Speaker 1: a hundred four star freshman come in, how many of
Speaker 1: them will actually have the one be physically and mentally
Speaker 1: ready to play game one in our league? Ten? Maybe
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe fifteen, not not more than that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think now play play start start play probably
Speaker 1: ten play play probably uh you know, some type of
Speaker 1: special team or something like that, maybe thirty five or
Speaker 1: for in your history of coaching, and it could be
Speaker 1: at any level. Can you remember a freshman that came
Speaker 1: in and you're like, oh, this guy's immediately ready to play,
Speaker 1: and then he immediately played and was awesome. Andrew Thomas.
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas was a tackle out of Georgia who I
Speaker 1: knew he was going to start in our top five
Speaker 1: fast early. Uh, not necessarily office high school take Bobby,
Speaker 1: but when he got to campus. Uh he started at
Speaker 1: right tackle, first game of the year, played three years,
Speaker 1: fourth pick in the draft. Yeah, that one I that
Speaker 1: when I knew what is the coolest thing about being
Speaker 1: a d one coach? That a head coach that you
Speaker 1: did not know meaning you've coached a lot of places
Speaker 1: for a lot of time and done a lot of
Speaker 1: great things, but you still didn't know blank whenever you
Speaker 1: became the head coach. Verse of parkinsas how awesome going
Speaker 1: into the locker room is after you beat somebody that named,
Speaker 1: somebody's got a name, somebody's got a good football team.
Speaker 1: How many employees that there is in the building. You
Speaker 1: know that those things were surprising to me, But the
Speaker 1: awesome part of it was going in and seeing the
Speaker 1: kid's face after you win a big game. It's incredible, priceless,
Speaker 1: can put a value on it, It's really cool. So
Speaker 1: for me, as I was, you know, rising up whatever ranks,
Speaker 1: I started to learn that the higher I got, it
Speaker 1: really was I wasn't doing all the little things as much.
Speaker 1: I was kind of uh doing big things and watching
Speaker 1: over people that I trusted to do the little things,
Speaker 1: um not less important things, but just more of the things.
Speaker 1: Was that an adjustment for you being the head coach
Speaker 1: is not being so super involved daily in schemes and
Speaker 1: game plans. I trade our coaches exactly like I wanted
Speaker 1: to be traded as an assistant. You know, I've got
Speaker 1: a title. When I was assistant, I wanted to, uh
Speaker 1: make sure that I did what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: I wanted the coach to think I was the best coach,
Speaker 1: best recruiter on his staff, most loyal guy. So I
Speaker 1: treat those guys like that until you know possible they
Speaker 1: give me a reason not to. But I loved my staff.
Speaker 1: I've got a really good staff. And and I visit
Speaker 1: with him. You know, you can really have anxiety over
Speaker 1: if somebody doesn't talk to you. You know, well, what's
Speaker 1: he think of me? Am I doing a good job.
Speaker 1: I let him know. Uh. Visit with the guys all
Speaker 1: the time. I want them to be as comfortable as
Speaker 1: they possibly can be, because I want them to to
Speaker 1: coach out of confidence and not out of nervousness, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense. When you go into a season like
Speaker 1: this season, where you've had two seasons in a row
Speaker 1: where you know there's been a different feeling about the team,
Speaker 1: obviously you're one, You're the first time head coach, not
Speaker 1: a lot of expectation, um and you know It was
Speaker 1: a weird year anyway with with COVID and last year, Uh,
Speaker 1: we overperformed a lot of folks expectation. Now here we are,
Speaker 1: we're going to do it again and there are now
Speaker 1: real expectations put on you, put on the razorbacks, put
Speaker 1: on the state of Arkansas, Like do you still have
Speaker 1: to find like dig through and find somebody disrespecting you
Speaker 1: to go look at this? They still don't think or
Speaker 1: do you just reposition on how to motivate these kids? Well,
Speaker 1: you know our expectations and I'm not lying here, not
Speaker 1: stretching the truth at all. Our expectations have been high
Speaker 1: ever since we walked in the building. I mean they
Speaker 1: really had and uh so that that's been a big
Speaker 1: deal for us. Uh. If I see Bobby, honestly, if
Speaker 1: I see uh ranking that has us ranked fifteen and
Speaker 1: one that has us not ranked, I'm gonna talk to
Speaker 1: the team about the not ranked one. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not I am, I'm I We're underdog, you know, a
Speaker 1: blue chip, hard working group of guys, and I want
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna find every reason for us to stay
Speaker 1: that way in the public eye and and until I guess,
Speaker 1: until you've got ranked number one. You know, you you
Speaker 1: would have that ability to put a chip on the
Speaker 1: guy's shoulder, and that's that's I like to do that.
Speaker 1: I think that's who we are and we thrive on that.
Speaker 1: Has fame been weird for you? Yeah? It really as
Speaker 1: I get um um um. A lot of times you
Speaker 1: may or may not feel the same way. But a
Speaker 1: lot of times people come up they want to touch you,
Speaker 1: autograph pictures, whatever that is, and I'm almost every time
Speaker 1: I'm going, I wonder why they want to do that,
Speaker 1: you know, But I also know that when I want
Speaker 1: to meet somebody that I I either walk away going, man,
Speaker 1: that guy's a jerk, or man that he's really what
Speaker 1: I thought he would be. And I always wanted to
Speaker 1: walk away from me with the feeling that, hey, this
Speaker 1: is what who I thought this guy would be. I mean,
Speaker 1: in Arkansas, you are wildly famous because the team is
Speaker 1: in an upper trajectory and we feel like that's gonna
Speaker 1: happen for a long time. Obviously, we love you very much,
Speaker 1: um but with that, there is everybody watching you everywhere
Speaker 1: you go. Now, what's cool about the level of fame
Speaker 1: that you have, at least I think is you could
Speaker 1: probably go to uh, San Diego and everybody's pretty chill,
Speaker 1: and you get to live more of a normal vacation
Speaker 1: life because nobody's hassling Coach Pittman from the razorback. Is
Speaker 1: that true? Yeah, that's true. I mean, um, here in
Speaker 1: the state though, you know, I have a home on
Speaker 1: Lake Hamilton's and I can get away somewhat, but not
Speaker 1: not much. Of course, when we put the hall out
Speaker 1: there on the lake kind of told where we lived,
Speaker 1: you know. But um, I'm very very grateful for that,
Speaker 1: I really am. I never get discouraged or frustrated with
Speaker 1: people coming up and saying hello, because I'm very honored
Speaker 1: that they want to meet me or be around me
Speaker 1: or whatever that case. Maybe how often do you eat
Speaker 1: then you find out someone's already paid your tab? Man,
Speaker 1: It's happened quite a bit, you know, I mean it
Speaker 1: really has. And and some people aren't even at the
Speaker 1: restaurant that you know, somebody will call us, say, Coach Pittman,
Speaker 1: Jamie's here and there. They hadn't even been at the restaurant.
Speaker 1: They paid for it, which, by the way, is awesome.
Speaker 1: Which other head coach in the SEC would you say,
Speaker 1: as your your bff. If you had to pick one,
Speaker 1: Kirby Kirby Smart, you know, that's that's the guy that
Speaker 1: has really taught me a lot when I was there.
Speaker 1: He's loyal to me as I am him. But he's
Speaker 1: a guy that that would be my my friend, my
Speaker 1: best friend. In in coaching, is there a text thread
Speaker 1: of like the cool SEC coaches and you guys have
Speaker 1: leave a couple of guys out. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: That's so awesome. Uh you know you probably you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully I'm not the one they want to leave out
Speaker 1: of it, but uh yeah, that is awesome. There there
Speaker 1: are days when you know, if you had that text
Speaker 1: fread though, you'd add a guy back into it, take
Speaker 1: another guy at this guy, take another guy out. But
Speaker 1: uh no, there's not one of those. But certainly I
Speaker 1: think everybody at some point in time would take a
Speaker 1: guy out and leave him out for a while. Is
Speaker 1: it true that if your buddies with somebody and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have a lot of let peer coaches in
Speaker 1: the SEC, that you guys will not communicate the week
Speaker 1: over the week before if you're playing each other or
Speaker 1: or you find either way, there's a lot of truth
Speaker 1: to that. You know, um, you know Meil Tucker was
Speaker 1: at at Georgia, Shane was at Georgia. Um, Dan Lanning
Speaker 1: was at Georgia. You know, I think if we played,
Speaker 1: of course we played, shipped Baemer's team to South Carolina.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know what, it depends on how close you are.
Speaker 1: If you're real close to him, you probably don't mind
Speaker 1: talking to him. If you send me close to him
Speaker 1: and you probably you probably won't talk to him the
Speaker 1: week of the game. Have you ever played Madden? Because
Speaker 1: I wonder if you played Madden, and let's say you
Speaker 1: didn't actually use the controller, but you just like someone
Speaker 1: played for you, but you told him what plays the call,
Speaker 1: what defense is to run. Do you think you can
Speaker 1: watch somebody play Madden and dominate them just based off
Speaker 1: of what you do as a head coach? No? I mean, now,
Speaker 1: Barry Might and Kendall Might. It's got Fountain Might on
Speaker 1: the punt when they need the punt. But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: know if it was coaching old line, I'd probably be
Speaker 1: okay and all that, but no, I wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to do that. That would be the worst video game ever.
Speaker 1: Coaching old line. I don't think man's gonna put that in.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't sell many, would it. How often are the
Speaker 1: state troopers with you when you're traveling around the state.
Speaker 1: Is that just game day or is that all the time? Well,
Speaker 1: they take me to Catfish Hole on Wednesday nights, and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. There's it's not dangerous at the
Speaker 1: Catfish Old, I can promise you. Uh, But then there
Speaker 1: with me on Friday and all through, all through until
Speaker 1: we get back home after the game more. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: traveling back on a road game. So I've I've met
Speaker 1: your lovely wife a couple of times and yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: and you've met my life and man, you know at yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I take that as a compliment,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, it's okay. Um. So I guess my
Speaker 1: with my wife, I am constantly trying to make sure
Speaker 1: and I do not do a good job of it
Speaker 1: of having balance, meaning I have to remember to try
Speaker 1: to folk even though she's so supportive. I have to
Speaker 1: remember to focus and make sure that I'm not just
Speaker 1: using my my opic view of only my life and
Speaker 1: my careers when it's football season. Is there a different
Speaker 1: understanding in your relationship. Yeah, it has been for thirty
Speaker 1: six years. The only thing, Bobby, what I've done for
Speaker 1: a long long time is Jamie and I go on
Speaker 1: to date night every Thursday during the season, and we
Speaker 1: kind of look forward to that now because since I've
Speaker 1: gotten a head coaching job. Wednesday night is also she
Speaker 1: goes with me to the catfish Hole. But third day
Speaker 1: night we do something. It may be at home, but
Speaker 1: it's it's considered a day night, or maybe we get
Speaker 1: a private room somewhere and go go out on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: But um, I try to include her and as much
Speaker 1: as I possibly can because she's so important to me.
Speaker 1: But she's also important to how I feel and my
Speaker 1: daily you know, the way I walk and talk and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. She helps him with all that
Speaker 1: has for thirty six years. I hope I'm good at
Speaker 1: I'm conscious to be good at that coach. Final four
Speaker 1: questions I have here for you, and I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: with the n I l um, do you feel like
Speaker 1: it's advantageous to you that you started to be a
Speaker 1: head coach right as this was happening, and you weren't
Speaker 1: someone who's been head coaching that had to completely adjust whenever,
Speaker 1: like being born at the same time this was born.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that was good for you. I
Speaker 1: don't think it hurt me. You know, you know change.
Speaker 1: Guys have been doing something and you just said it. Basically,
Speaker 1: guys have been doing something for a long time. You know,
Speaker 1: you either fight change or you go with change and
Speaker 1: try to find out how you can make it to
Speaker 1: your advantage. I'm a guy that when change happens, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make an advantage out of it and not
Speaker 1: be graping about the change. It might be harder if
Speaker 1: I was a head coach for twenty years and I
Speaker 1: liked what I had, But um, right now, the rules
Speaker 1: a rule, and then you try to go see how
Speaker 1: it can be advantageous to your program. And that's how
Speaker 1: I feel about it. Do you feel like players are
Speaker 1: acting different because the n I l I think they're
Speaker 1: thinking different. Um, I don't know acting, but they are
Speaker 1: thinking different because you know, recruiting and also your own team. Uh,
Speaker 1: you have a lot more conversations about the name im
Speaker 1: and lightness than the math class or the you know,
Speaker 1: you miss study table, things of that nature. They want
Speaker 1: to talk about n I L and I want to
Speaker 1: talk about graduation more. Let's talk about parents. Um. And right,
Speaker 1: you're talking about graduation. I'm sure that's a big part
Speaker 1: in recruiting. We're talking to the parents of the grandparents
Speaker 1: or whomever the central figures are. Um. I get a
Speaker 1: lot of parents that asked me like, Hey, I got
Speaker 1: a kid that's really good at football. How do I
Speaker 1: get a coach to see a tape if they can't
Speaker 1: get to a camp or they can't get to some
Speaker 1: of the things like how does someone highlight their kid
Speaker 1: if they think their kid is really good? Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, I think that's the head coaches job, you know,
Speaker 1: their school. Uh. The other thing, there's not a social
Speaker 1: media how about that that's the answer. Get it out
Speaker 1: on Twitter, get it out on the Instagram, TikTok, whatever
Speaker 1: it may be. UM. But for right now, with huddle
Speaker 1: the way it is and our coaches being able to
Speaker 1: go out twice in the spring, Uh, you know, there's
Speaker 1: not many unturned stones in recruiting. But how they can
Speaker 1: do that is if they can't get to camp is
Speaker 1: get tape and have have the coach promote them and
Speaker 1: have themselves promote them on on Twitter, on on social media. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was really missed there. I didn't
Speaker 1: get to the camps, so I feel like I was
Speaker 1: really just kind of pass app and what social media was?
Speaker 1: That's right? No, barely my space? You know? Off that alright?
Speaker 1: Two final questions for you, favorite TV show, movie and
Speaker 1: song ever in your whole life? You got movie, TV
Speaker 1: show host? Gun would be movie? Uh uh what? What?
Speaker 1: What was TV TV show ever? Oh? Man, Gilligan's Island
Speaker 1: loved Maryann and and uh figured and the Skipper Really
Speaker 1: I like Gilligan. I kept thinking he's going to get
Speaker 1: off the island too, man. They never did. And then uh,
Speaker 1: favorite song I'm gonna go currently, I like country on
Speaker 1: Uh Brian by look Brian right now. I mean I
Speaker 1: like it. It's got a lot of good cool meaning
Speaker 1: to it. Hit one ones that hit you in the heart.
Speaker 1: I like those kind of songs. All right, last one
Speaker 1: for you, coach. I appreciate your time, but my wife
Speaker 1: being from Oklahoma, we we just spent the last four
Speaker 1: days over in Oklahoma and your Tulsa and um so,
Speaker 1: I I never liked the Sooners, but I'm having to
Speaker 1: adjust to not hating the Sooners, and that is an adjustment. Um.
Speaker 1: And so I am actually very excited about them being
Speaker 1: in the conference because that's just more games that I
Speaker 1: get to go to. So I is when they're probably in?
Speaker 1: Do you I'm I'm not going to ask you to
Speaker 1: speculate a year or anything, but do you think it'll
Speaker 1: be sooner than that? Right now we're told, Bobby they'll
Speaker 1: come in. Um. Do I think there's a possibility of it? Yes,
Speaker 1: I do, UM, But right now I think the SEC
Speaker 1: is pretty steadfast at you know, financially. Um. You know
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a big pay buy out by Texas
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma, and I'm assuming if they're willing to do that,
Speaker 1: and then it might speed up a little bit. But
Speaker 1: right now we're coach, love you good luck. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a national show, so I'm not supposed to
Speaker 1: be biased, but I'm the most biased person in my
Speaker 1: whole life. I've at Arkansas helmet on my desk here.
Speaker 1: I mean that's on camera. So uh, let's get them.
Speaker 1: I'll see you soon, and thanks for your time, Coach.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the interview. Bobby, Thanks for your time. Go off
Speaker 1: all right, ending thoughts everybody has one sports take. I
Speaker 1: don't care how trivial it is. This is your chance
Speaker 1: to say your opinion and funny, predictive, serious, doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be long. Um, we'll start with Adam Hambroke, Adam
Speaker 1: the new guy here to the room. What is your
Speaker 1: ending thoughts? Oh? Man, it lots being made on this
Speaker 1: coaches poll right now, and h is the SEC having
Speaker 1: a down year? I'm gonna go with no, Why what's
Speaker 1: being made to the coaches pool? Uh? There's only five
Speaker 1: SEC teams ranked in the coaches poll, and I think
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's an opportunity for a lot of
Speaker 1: conferences say the SEC is not as good either, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna be as good. Um. A couple first year
Speaker 1: head coaches and all that stuff. Um, but what I
Speaker 1: think people are missing is like there might be a
Speaker 1: first year head coach at Florida, Um, but Florida is
Speaker 1: still Florida is still gonna be loaded with talent. Uh.
Speaker 1: Tennessee has a has a fantastic quarterback, hen and Hooker,
Speaker 1: UM and L s U like L s US have
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, and they all they always have talent. They
Speaker 1: probably will Saven went six and six this first year.
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly is a great coach. This year, they'll suck,
Speaker 1: but but there's still when you have athletes on the field,
Speaker 1: like you never know what's gonna happen in a given
Speaker 1: a weekend. I think they're all those question marks, and
Speaker 1: there's still all the talent L s u A in
Speaker 1: Florida and these other teams that aren't in the poll, Like,
Speaker 1: there's still gonna be opportunity for a lot of chaos
Speaker 1: and a lot of like, uh, you know, these teams
Speaker 1: are still gonna have high ceilings that maybe they could
Speaker 1: maybe they could reach, but they're also be probably inconsistent
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I think everything outside of Alabama
Speaker 1: and Georgia, obviously, everything is gonna be competitive every week
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a really fun year to watch.
Speaker 1: And then you have teams like my Razor Backs coming on. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be tough, hard nosed, blue collar kind of teams.
Speaker 1: You got old miss Who's gonna they're gonna win football games.
Speaker 1: Kentucky's gonna win football games in South Carolina coming on,
Speaker 1: all that way below Alabama and Georgia all the way
Speaker 1: down to maybe Vanderbilt in the Missouri. That middle is
Speaker 1: gonna be a really tough, tough road to home this year.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be as tough as it always is.
Speaker 1: So no, I don't think it's gonna be down here
Speaker 1: in the SEC. I think Kentucky can beat Georgia. I
Speaker 1: think they. I think they can. I don't think they wouldn't,
Speaker 1: But I think Kentucky can beat Georgia. I think Tennessee
Speaker 1: could possibly if the whole freaking world turns exactly right,
Speaker 1: they'd have a shot at it. But I think that's
Speaker 1: a bit of an unfair headline. When I saw an
Speaker 1: article too, like I see down only five teams like
Speaker 1: teamine all I SEC teams like a moote votes getting
Speaker 1: um so uh and Christmas comes slow for kids, water
Speaker 1: is wet, and the SEC is overrated. That no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: what what universal truths? If people say yeah, yes, not uh,
Speaker 1: let's go to Eddie, give me your ending thought or
Speaker 1: you're not gonna like this. And especially since two people
Speaker 1: picked the Bucks to win the whole thing this year,
Speaker 1: look the Bucks. This is and I'm not being funny.
Speaker 1: The Bucks will start this season oh and four and
Speaker 1: it's gonna shock the world, there's oh my gosh, Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: The first four games, their first four games to start
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. That's that's the lost is an automatical
Speaker 1: and a shocker. They're gonna play the Saints. They're gonna
Speaker 1: lose that one too, and then they go. I think
Speaker 1: they have a better shot to lose that one though
Speaker 1: than the first. I think because the Saints have owned
Speaker 1: them the last couple of years. Too stupid, you don't
Speaker 1: blow it all stupid takes go ahead, and then week
Speaker 1: three they play the Packers, will lose that week before
Speaker 1: they play the Chiefs. I'm telling you, Owen four, their
Speaker 1: first win will be against the Falcons, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: have the NFL going, oh my gosh, what's going on
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady? This is crazy. I can see one
Speaker 1: in three probably probably if you're asking me too into.
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay is gonna be interesting to Seaffle Zards,
Speaker 1: the number one righte receiver that they hope he is.
Speaker 1: I think to see who the I in Kansas City is.
Speaker 1: It's gonna catch balls on the outside from the homes
Speaker 1: is gonna be fine, somebody. It's gonna be somebody. My
Speaker 1: homes is too good. For there not to be somebody.
Speaker 1: It's like when Peyton Manning, it didn't matter who. It
Speaker 1: didn't matter if it was Eric Decker, it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning made somebody a fantasy star because he just
Speaker 1: had some UM. So that would be interesting. But I
Speaker 1: think they could be two and two or three and one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I like how you're certain that they will.
Speaker 1: I'm not starting anything something. Uh, let's go to kick off, Kevin,
Speaker 1: your final ending thought, kickoff, Kevin. Alright. Clemson had what
Speaker 1: people called a down year last year. They still went
Speaker 1: ten and three. UM quarterback DJ Lui Ngo Lele. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure I said that right, and you killed that.
Speaker 1: That wasn't bad. Yeah, and uh, he was one of
Speaker 1: the favorites coming in to win the Heisman. He had
Speaker 1: a down year as well. I think had ten interceptions
Speaker 1: and only nine touchdowns. But I think they bounced back
Speaker 1: this year because a CC is getting pretty weak, especially
Speaker 1: with Sam Hartman out for wake four is and I
Speaker 1: say he is the best sleeper bet for your money.
Speaker 1: He's at plus forty five hundred right now, so if
Speaker 1: you put your mind. I actually put twenty bucks on
Speaker 1: them this morning, that'll pay me nine hundred if you win,
Speaker 1: so do it for me. That's interesting about Clemson because yes,
Speaker 1: everybody says they had a bad year down here, but
Speaker 1: they lost them early, but they were over in everybody's mind.
Speaker 1: They really played well for most of the year after that,
Speaker 1: they did have a down year Clemson standards. Also, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna they don't mess with the n I l
Speaker 1: Really that's a weird thing. They're not big. They don't
Speaker 1: do it at all. Yeah, they're just like they're probably
Speaker 1: who knows, but I think I think that's actually a
Speaker 1: great pick on that. Plus yeah, I mean it's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's rich. Most tattoos, somebody, Mike, what you got final one?
Speaker 1: I think the fate of the Razorbacks depends on what
Speaker 1: you do with the stuff you got from the Estates Thill,
Speaker 1: meaning that if you take it and actually do something
Speaker 1: with it, they'll be great. If not, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a bad season. They're all gonna sit in your room.
Speaker 1: Right What about to do? Why did you buy it?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do anything with it. I don't anybody
Speaker 1: else to have it. I wanted to. I wanted to
Speaker 1: be taken care of very much, so all right, uh,
Speaker 1: and then my final take is going to be I
Speaker 1: think that if Old Miss finish his second in the West,
Speaker 1: and I hate to say that, I think Lane Kiffin
Speaker 1: is a real candidate for Coach of the Year because
Speaker 1: the media loves them, and if Old Miss can be
Speaker 1: competitive with Alabama, I don't think they'll win the West.
Speaker 1: But if Old Miss, I think Lane Kiffin has a
Speaker 1: real shot because of their fat infatuation with him, and
Speaker 1: he's on TikTok. Now he's kind of killing on TikTok
Speaker 1: a little bit, he is. I think that all kind
Speaker 1: of plays into it. I think Lane Kiffin doesn't happen
Speaker 1: with the national championship, but if he can win ten games,
Speaker 1: he could be the coach of the Year this year. Um,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna end this show. But before we do
Speaker 1: the whistle we I wanted to end on Skinnered simple Man,
Speaker 1: just because I like that intro. We can't because licensing issues.
Speaker 1: But like kind of version called what Mike complicated dude.
Speaker 1: It sounds kind of like it but not really, but
Speaker 1: we have access to it, you know, it sounds like
Speaker 1: complicated dude. Okay, here we go. This is what When
Speaker 1: I do my final thing here. Mike's gonna play complicated
Speaker 1: dude from now on. Go ahead, it does sound good. Yeah, yeah, hey, thanks,
Speaker 1: it's our first episode. The credits will come up in
Speaker 1: a second, and usually I'll do my ending thought over this,
Speaker 1: but I and now I get to choose we had
Speaker 1: the best show, the first first day, best show, and
Speaker 1: they get to blow the whistle, and that'll be the
Speaker 1: first whistle out. Um, Mike didn't have a mascot. Is
Speaker 1: a tough game to play. So he's doing a stretch,
Speaker 1: so he's out. Uh, Kevin, solid job today. You still
Speaker 1: end than I kind of kicked out him out of
Speaker 1: a segments got a little too Arkansas way, So sometimes
Speaker 1: things happen. It's aboutam you're gonna be eliminated from this, uh, Eddie, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're looking at great. Great by the way, go listen
Speaker 1: to The Sore Losers are on Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays
Speaker 1: on They're on the Nashville Podcast Network with us. They're
Speaker 1: like our cousins, except it's like a cross over episode.
Speaker 1: You're like Urcle on full House Eddie. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: pop in sometimes I won a full house did Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty good episode, Eddie. Also setting up the studio for
Speaker 1: the first thank you. I'm getting my whistle ready. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in the end, I give it to me. I
Speaker 1: performed the best. Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you what. We'll
Speaker 1: put it to a vote between three that didn't win. Mike.
Speaker 1: Who is it, Eddie or Kevin. I'm going with Eddie, Adam,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Kevin. I'm gonna go with Kevin too,
Speaker 1: first time on. Kevin's been a big part of this show.
Speaker 1: This is our first whistle twenty four more to go, Kevin.
Speaker 1: You blow the whistle and we're out of here. Another
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