1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Ron an Aian for the folks that say, ah, it's 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: an old car, it's easy to fix. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get parts for it first. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Because a lot of the stuff comes in from China, 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff gets replicated, and a lot 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: of the stuff is junk. And now I'm finding even 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: the domestic stuff. 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: It's a problem. Two old tons of chrome and steel. 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: The man's best friend is his automobile. 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: The car Doctor. 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: There's a rattle in the back end of the car, 12 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: and it sounds like a large metal carbon can begin rattled. 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: I would do that. 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: I would get your hands on super bulletin on nine 15 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Desh sixty six, Dash sixteen. What happened was the backshell 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: of the muffler wasn't assembled properly. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 19 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: the phone and call in the garage doors are open. 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: I am here to take your call at eighty five 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: five five six oh ninety nine. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 5: Hundred and naw pe. 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Running sometimes in auto repair, you've got to think outside 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: the box. Most days. Actually, you never know where that 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: box is. You don't know what the perimeter is, you 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: don't know where that other side is that you have 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: to go to. And I guess that's what makes you 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: want to do it, right, I mean, that's part of it. 31 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: You know, find something you like doing. You'll never work 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: a day in your life. We had a shop around 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: the corner from us this week. They have a fleet 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: account where they work on twenty twenty one Nissan Rogues 35 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: model year twenty one Nissan Rogues and they've got like 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: fifty of them, so they'll, you know, they service them, 37 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: they do what they have to do. And some of 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: them have higher mileage on them than others. And one 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: of them had about two hundred thousand miles on it 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: and it blew the engine this week. It failed and 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: the problem was they had just put brand new tires 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: on it two weeks prior. They had another twenty one 43 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Nissan Roge, same car, same fleet, that with obviously lesser 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: miles and it didn't matter the mile as the engine 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: still worked, but it needed tires. So it was a 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: simple request, very simple. The owner of the fleet company said, hey, 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: can you take the tires and wheels off of one 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: and put it on the other. Just do a simple 49 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: wheel swap. Everything was identical. And you know, my guy 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: at the other shop, my friend chuck, he said, yeah, 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: we can do that. So the problem was, as you 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: might have guessed, that the tire pressure sensors from one 53 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: vehicle to the other don't match. There's different unique numbers 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: to each TPMs sensor that are programmed. 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: To the vehicle. 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: So there was going to be some TPMs tire pressure 57 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: monitoring programming required. And you know, they figured, hey, how 58 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: hard can it be. You know, we should be able 59 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: to last right through this not a problem, and they couldn't. 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: And the reason they couldn't was because there's a security 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: protocol on model year twenty and up Nissans where they're 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: not allowing anything but a factory level scan tool to 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: get in that has security access clearance. This is a problem. 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: This is this is creating a monopoly. I'm going to 65 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: call it what it is. This is creating an issue 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: for consumers. The concern here is that after market shops 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: model year twenty and up. I know of no way, 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: well I do know of a way to get in 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you what we did. But 70 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: for the you know, for the average shop that doesn't 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: have what I'm going to talk to you about, they're 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: out of luck. They've they've got no way to accomplish this. 73 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: And that's a problem. That's a monopoly, and you know 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: that's going to be an issue going forward because look 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: how easily Nissan has locked everybody out but Nissan dealers. 76 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: If you don't have security access, no scan tool in 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: the marketplace other than an Opus IVS, we'll get into 78 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: that system and the way Opus does it because and 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I knew this was, you know, and when they called 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: me up in their cry for help, I said, yeah, 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: bring it over, we'll figure something out. I got out 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: my OPIS, my OPIS scan tool, my Opus IVS plugged in, 83 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: and I was right. My base OPIS with the software 84 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: that comes in it from them. Wouldn't access it because 85 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't have security protocol clearance right. They needs to 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: see the license to authenticate it, which isn't available yet. 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: I went out to auto auth, who is the licensing body, 88 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: licensing body for North America. They handle our Chrysler authentication 89 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: and they don't have access or the ability to provide 90 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: for us for Nissan. Yet I was told Yet, I 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: was told it's in the works, but North America is 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: out of luck right now. So I called up Opus. 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: I called up tech support and I said, hey, I've 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: got this twenty one Nissan Rogue. And the guy on 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: tech support was great, He's listening very feversly, and I said, 96 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: I need you to install see, because this is what 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Opus can do, and Opus is the only scan tool 98 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: in the market that I know that and do this. 99 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Opus can install download over the over the computer network 100 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: dealer level software. So now you're looking at the factory 101 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: scan tool and I explained it to him. I said, 102 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: I need you to install the factory scan tool in 103 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: my Opus so that I can then learn the tire 104 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: pressure monitoring system and I can program the codes in. 105 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: And he you know, I could hear his ears kind 106 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: of kick to the side, like you want me to do? 107 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: What? 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: To do? 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: What? 110 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: For tires? 111 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: And I explained, I said, this is the only way 112 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: you can get into the system that I'm aware of, 113 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: and I was right. They logged in, they installed the 114 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: Nissan factory software. So now we were looking at the 115 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: same tool that the dealer has. We put the vehicle 116 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: in learn mode, and I think the guy from tech 117 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: support was kind of watching the show too. I'm not sure. 118 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who was learning from who It was 119 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: going both ways. It was kind of funny late in 120 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: the day on Thursday this week, and we put the 121 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: vehicle in learn mode and then we walked around using 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: our regular shop TPMs tool to wake up each individual's sensor, 123 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: because the way Nissan learns their tire pressure sensor position is, 124 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, they will put the vehicle in learn mode 125 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: using a scan tool and then they wake up each sensor, 126 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: and as each sensor wakes up, the body module records okay, 127 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: the left front has serial number one, two, three, four five, 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: the right front has eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve, the 129 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: right rear has fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and so on, 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: and we were able to use But look at the technology, right, 131 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: Look at how complicated it's gotten just for simple tire 132 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: pressure coding. And I don't I haven't heard anybody talking 133 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: about this. I called a couple of the scan tool 134 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: manufacturers and some of the tire pressure scan tool manufacturers 135 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: as well, because tire pressure systems have their own scan 136 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: tool now, and everybody was in shock. Nobody had heard 137 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: of this except for one actually, thirty one Inc. The 138 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: guys over at thirty one Inc. Were aware of it, 139 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: and they knew that there was something in the works. 140 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: They didn't realize it had manifested itself into the marketplace 141 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: at this point so predominantly. 142 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: And you know the hoops that we have to jump through. 143 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: And I said to myself, what happens to that tire shop, 144 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: because twenty and twenty one Nissan rogues surely need tires 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: buy now. So you know, for that poor unsuspecting guy 146 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: or girl out there working in a tire shop that 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, puts a tire on and by accident, I 148 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: mean it happens they break a tire pressure sensor or 149 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: you know what if the sensor goes bad. The only 150 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: place you're going to the dealer. That is the only 151 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: place right now in the market that has the ability 152 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: to do that unless they've got an opus, unless they've 153 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: got the ability to do an opus, and you know, 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: to do it that way. So just I wanted to 155 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: tell you this story because I thought, you know, I 156 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: don't like it when you the consumer and you the 157 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: shop that's out there that's listening, gets boxed into a corner. 158 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: And I want to try and tell you the pitfalls 159 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: as I see him before it happens. But this is 160 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: a problem now. The nearest available release date, i'm told 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: is the fall, So we may not see TPMs access 162 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: to Nissans or bigger problem scan tool access for data 163 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: to Nissans for at least another five or six months. 164 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: So you know, be cautious what you work on, Be 165 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: cautious what you choose to deal with, because you may 166 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: find yourself boxed in a corner. Just ugly, just ugly. 167 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: It's just it's just downright silly. You know, they're limiting 168 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the market, and they're limiting where people can go get cars, 169 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: and I think sooner or later that comes back to 170 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: bite you. And I think that they've I think they 171 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. So Nissan is doing some strange things, 172 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: and right now it's just very important. See let me 173 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: back up a minute. You know what Chrysler did, if 174 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: you remember back around model year fifteen sixteen, somebody hacked 175 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: the Jeep Grand Cherokee and took over and controlled that 176 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: vehicle and ran everything and actually drove the vehicle, they 177 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: took over operation from the person driving it. And the 178 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: concern was chryslers could be hacked, just like any other 179 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: computer gets hacked. So they came up with a procedure 180 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: that requires you to Now, when you plug in a 181 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: scan tool, anybody's scan tool, the scan tool goes up 182 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: to the cloud via the Internet. It looks for its 183 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: serial number or a login through a website called auto 184 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: off a uto offautauto auth dot com. And as long 185 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: as the license for that scan tool I'm sorry, the 186 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: serial number for that scan tool is found licensed through 187 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: auto auth, they will then allow it to come back 188 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: down the other side of the Internet, go to the 189 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: car Exchange security protocols and allow the scan toe will 190 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: to log in so it can be used to diagnose. 191 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: Of course, that's a fifty dollars a year licensing fee, 192 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: so you know, it doesn't it doesn't happen for free, 193 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen by magic, you know. And now 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: you're going to see Nissan do it, and I'm willing 195 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: to bet going forward, you're going to see a lot 196 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: of car companies do it where they require you know, 197 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: that licensing to happen on many fronts so you the 198 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: consumer that's out there today, you can expect the cost 199 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: of diagnose go up because it's only going to increase 200 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: the operating cost of the repair shop, and it's going 201 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: to get passed on so they can stay in business 202 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: and be there to try and take care of you. So, 203 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: but something as simple as tire pressure monitoring, you know, 204 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: it just gets awful, convoluted and twisted, even in the 205 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: best of time. So but Opus IVS really did the job. 206 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: And if you haven't looked at one yet, if you're 207 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: a repair shop out there, by all means you should, 208 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: because that's the future. 209 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: It's here now. 210 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 211 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the Car Doctor. I'll be back 212 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. 213 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: Time. 214 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: Ride it on the wall so you don't forget to 215 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: call for car advice. Done right? Eight five five five 216 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to raw. 217 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: Hey, let's take a ride to Connecticut and talk to 218 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: Dan with his fifteen grand caravan. 219 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 6: Dan. 220 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 221 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 6: Hey? Ron, how you doing good? 222 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: What's going on? 223 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 6: I listened every week on the podcast. I got a 224 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 6: little leak. I noticed it in my driveway. You know, 225 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 6: I noticed it more when the rain hit. It looked 226 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 6: like a rainbow. But I got under there and took 227 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 6: a look. To me, it looks like it's coming behind. 228 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 6: There's a behind the transmission pan. There's some kind of 229 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 6: a little bit above it. There's a housing with a gasket. Okay, 230 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 6: does that make sense? I mean I never even changed 231 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 6: the oil on this car. I don't even know where 232 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 6: the plug is. Yeah, but it's definitely oil, it's not 233 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 6: transmission fluid. 234 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So so why don't we do this before we 235 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: before we assume and fall into that trap. 236 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: You're you're a. 237 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Little mechanically inclined. Do in You're you're mechanically handy and stuch. 238 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: You don't mind crawling under the car changing the oil 239 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: looking at things like that? 240 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 6: No, no, I I well, I'm getting a little older now. 241 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 6: I used to do all my own stuff. 242 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So I. 243 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 6: Never even changed the oil on this van. 244 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't we? 245 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Why don't we add some die pick one engine oil 246 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: or transfluid. I vote engine oil. If that's where you 247 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: think it is, you gotta do you have it? Do 248 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: you have a local AutoZone nearby? Yeah, stop at an AutoZone. 249 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Tell them you want some oil dye additive for the 250 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: engine oil. All right, okay, And what you're gonna do 251 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: is you're gonna add die to the engine crank case 252 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: in the same place that you would put the engine oil. 253 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: All right, Just take the pill cap off and just 254 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: pour the dye in and drive it. Put a couple 255 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: of miles on it, and then you know you'll need 256 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: some glasses in a black light. They probably sell the kid, 257 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: it's probably cheap enough. Or you can take it to 258 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: your local mechanic if he's got a dye kit. Once 259 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: you add the dye and let him look at it 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: and they'll be able to see. Because this way you're 261 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: saving a step, right, you know, you're you're adding, you're 262 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: adding the dye and you can drive it, you know, 263 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: put two three hundred miles on it, and let's see 264 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: where it goes. Now, you want to get under there 265 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: while you're at AutoZone and pick up some spray solvent 266 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: or some brake clean and very carefully wash off where 267 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: the oil is so at least way it's it's a 268 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: fresh start, so to speak. 269 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: And you know, then add the dye that you. 270 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: Get there and you know, then go for a ride 271 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: this way, when you take it into your mechanic, it's 272 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: a clean area, and then he can clearly see. Now 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: if you don't see any dye, right, if there's no 274 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: signs of engine you know, if there's no signs of 275 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: fluorescence in whatever the fluid is, guess what, it's not 276 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: engine oil. It's transfluid, because that's that's the only other 277 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: thing down there, right. 278 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know anything about the bottom of this engine. 279 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 6: Would't the trans be red though? 280 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: Trans should be red? 281 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: However, you know, don't judge it by color because the 282 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: vehicle is nine years old. How many miles are on it? Right, 283 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: how many miles are on it? 284 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 6: Ninety? 285 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: Right? So you ever see trans? You ever see trans 286 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: fluid turned black? Right? 287 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: So? 288 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 6: I actually I actually checked the trans and the oil 289 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 6: last week and the trans was all red. Okay, The 290 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 6: oil was not low at all. The oil was good, 291 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 6: all right. 292 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: Well, before we start changing parts or loosening, I mean, 293 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: obviously you can check this cover and see if it's loose, 294 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, you see if the bolts are loose. 295 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: But if not, you know, some oil dye and an 296 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: additive and. 297 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: It's just a great place to start at least, then 298 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: you've got some clear cut answers and you're diagnosing something 299 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: before you start twisting bolts and changing something that may 300 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: not need to be changed. 301 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 6: That cover ron and it has a black gasket and 302 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 6: you could actually see one portion of the gasket bulgar. 303 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: What is that? 304 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 6: That the oil filter housing or I'm. 305 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: Trying to picture it in my mind, John, Which engine 306 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: is this? 307 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 6: Dan? Dan? The three point six three point six, Well. 308 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: The three point six isn't the oil filter housing up top? 309 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: Isn't the oil filter on top? 310 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: Yes? 311 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 6: Okay, I know where the transmission pan is, all right, 312 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 6: So you're seeing right behind it, right, So you're seeing 313 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 6: the leaked down bottom right. 314 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: Right. 315 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 6: It's right behind the transmission pan, a little bit above it. Okay, 316 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 6: one rounds. 317 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: When why don't we well, why don't we do this? 318 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Have you looked at the oil filter housing up top. 319 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 6: Just a little bit? I mean I saw a little 320 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 6: bit of oil there, but not much at all. 321 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: Well, the fact that you're seeing oil there because that 322 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: oil hasn't that galley has a drain port at the 323 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: back of the engine. So if there's oil leaking out 324 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: of that oil filter housing, which there probably is. Trust me, 325 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: They they that's built into the car from the day 326 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: they designed that. They just didn't tell you when you 327 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: bought it that it's gonna leak oil out of that 328 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: filter housing, and it's gonna leak out the back, and 329 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna run down and it's gonna look like the 330 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: leak is from the bottom, but it's really from the top. 331 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, this this is right, you know on the 332 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 6: driver's side. 333 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand, Yeah, okay, I understand, all right. 334 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: But just don't don't don't rule out that that oil 335 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: filter housing is leaking and does that need to be replaced. 336 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: So let's go. 337 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: Back when you when you go to AutoZone, ask them 338 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: about replacement oil filter housings for that vehicle, and you'll 339 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: find that they'll probably they'll probably bring up the fact 340 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: that Dorman Company, by the name of Dormandorman Products dot Com. 341 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Dorman makes an aluminum oil filter housing for that vehicle. 342 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: That that filter housing is a big problem. Danny, all right, 343 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: So don't don't over let's not overlook the possibility that 344 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: that's leaking too, or that's leaking, or that's leaking too. 345 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: That you've got two. 346 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: Leaks, you know, with this gasket that you see bulging. 347 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: But you know, oil runs downhill just like water. So 348 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: let's you know, if we're going to add a die 349 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: and start looking, or if we want to start somewhere, 350 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: if that oil filter housing is leaking, I would fix 351 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: that first or add the die, whichever way you want 352 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: to go. You got a couple of options here. You've 353 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: got a bunch of things going on. I would probably 354 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: add the dye. Thinking about it that way, at least 355 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: you get an overall picture of what if anything else 356 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: is leaking. Look at the top, look at the bottom, 357 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: and you can kind of work your way from there 358 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: and the die. 359 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: The die kits are cheap. The dye kits are under 360 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: twenty bucks. 361 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, thank you for the help. 362 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. If you need more, you know 363 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: where to find me. All right, very welcome. Big well, 364 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: Hey five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Yeah, 365 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: let's you know there's a lot there. Let's not jump 366 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. You know, Gus gets bulged. Trust me, 367 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Those oil filter housings leak like like the sun's gonna 368 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: come up tomorrow. 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So let's let's wander 379 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: over to Let's go to John and Illinois twelve GMC terrain. John, 380 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 381 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: Hey? Ron took the twenty twelve GMC Terrain two point 382 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: four into the mechanic and it wasn't starting, wasn't running correctly. 383 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: And he sent a picture of the variable timing selenoid 384 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: that showed a bunch of engine shaving metal shavings in 385 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: that middle rib part, kind of like shape like a tube. 386 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: I'm sure you ran across this before I looked at 387 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: There's been a lawsuit filed, YadA YadA, class action, but 388 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: I think my time they have expired. 389 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: What do you suggest There's there's a few things going 390 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: on here, John GM was there's a recall and special 391 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: policy adjustment regarding rings. There's a special policy adjustment for 392 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: plugged PCV valves. I think the limit on the rings 393 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: was ten years, one hundred and twenty thousand miles. If 394 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: I remember, I'm right, and you're out by that, you know, 395 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: if you want to join the lawsuit and see if 396 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: that gets you anywhere. But you know, is that ten 397 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: years from now when it finally gets settled, and what 398 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: good does that do you? You know, or you try to 399 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: fix it? 400 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: Right, it's it's how many miles around the vehicle now? 401 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 3: Seventy thousand? 402 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Wow, that's terrible, Yes, it is. 403 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: So you know, there's there's a few things you can 404 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: deal with, all right, if you can get your hands 405 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: on GM document number fourteen eight eighty two. All right, 406 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: it talks about a pluged PC orifice in the intake manifold. 407 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: That one came out around the early part of twenty fifteen, 408 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: and I think there's a few way after that, and 409 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: basically what they want you to do. You know how 410 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: when you lift the hood there's that black cover over 411 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: the top of the engine, ye, and there's that tube 412 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: off to the side goes on the passenger side. That's 413 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: the that's the pcvtube. They want you to check to 414 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: see if that's reach all right. And you know, normally 415 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: we'd use a vacuum gauge. In this case, they want 416 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: you to use a monometer. A monometer is just a 417 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: very it sounds scary, but it's a very accurate vacuum 418 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: gage in a sense, and it's much more sensitive. Six 419 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: inches of water, which is what a monometer measures, equals 420 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: one inch of vacuum. So to use a regular vacuum 421 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: gauge isn't enough. It won't it won't give you a 422 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: low enough reading. 423 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: You know. 424 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to stick your tongue over the end 425 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: of the hole and see if you feel suction. 426 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: As the story one said to me, Yeah, great, go ahead, 427 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to be scientific about it. But the 428 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: idea is, is the PCV orifice or the PCV line 429 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: itself restricted somehow. We're looking to see you if you 430 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: take the oil fill cap off while the engine is running, 431 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: is there an excessive amount of blow by indicated? 432 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: Right? 433 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's all the traditional things you would look 434 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: for or look at trying to determine blow buy out 435 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: of an engine. If you decide, Hey, you know it's 436 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: not practical to take it apart because of the cost involved, 437 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: and you want to try the chemical approaches I refer 438 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: to it. We could we could maybe consider, once we 439 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: verify the PCV as working so that the crank case 440 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: is venting correctly, we could try using some sort of 441 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: a chemical flush to see if it loosens. 442 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: The rings up. 443 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: Because usually, and you know, you're you're the perfect example. 444 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: What does this vehicle go? Six thousand miles a year? 445 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: Five thousand miles a year? Right, it doesn't. It doesn't 446 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: travel far. You know, get out to get out to 447 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: your local AutoZone. Go in there and tell them what 448 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to do. Tell them you've got sticky rings. 449 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: Tell them you've got you know this two point four 450 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: in this GMC. I'm sure they're familiar with the problem. 451 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 1: They're good like that. And you know, do they have 452 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: something strong in the way of a crank case flush 453 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: that might have some success and you might have to 454 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: do that process twice if nothing else, John, You'll feel 455 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: good about the fact that if the chemical flush doesn't work, 456 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: you know you tried, right, you did. 457 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, if they kicked it started run it's got the 458 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: metal shavings in between the two ribs on that syllinoid. 459 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: And that's what scares me. 460 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen it where they get metal shavings 461 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: like that. That makes me think the engine itself is 462 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: coming apart. 463 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: If that's the case. 464 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: So you know, if there's metal shavings there, what's the 465 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: oil filter look like? 466 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 3: Right? 467 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: Do we take the oil filter and cut it apart 468 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: and look in the pleats? 469 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: All right? If there's metal shavings, that bad? Okay, if 470 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: you were to take some of the oil, right, it 471 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: won't take much. Pull the dipstick out seven times and 472 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: squeeze off the end into a into a dixie cup. Sure, right, 473 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: and put it in a microwave. If you microwave oil, 474 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: as long as it's in a microwave safe container and 475 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: it flashes and sparks, guess what, Yeah, there's oil. There's 476 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: metal in the oil. 477 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: So assume that ron is this thing is coming apart. 478 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: What's better a reman from someone or I don't know 479 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: what's point to do. 480 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: Well, if the engine is truly coming apart and you're 481 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: going to replace it, you know, repair it. You know, 482 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: who's your regular mechanic. 483 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: It's it's right now at a shop in Saint Louis, Okay. 484 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: And they're they're the ones that's that folded up close 485 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 3: the hood and said, we can't do anything with it, all. 486 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because not a lot of you know, it's 487 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: hard now. A lot of shops, myself included, no longer 488 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: do heavy engine work. We we have no we have 489 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: no resources for re manufactured engines or engine components. It's 490 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: getting very difficult. So you know, it's you've got to 491 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: go and consider. You know, you've got to find a 492 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: shop that you know we'll do it and back it 493 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: with some kind of a warranty. 494 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: Who does your. 495 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: Normal You know you're an Illinois John is when you 496 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: say Saint Louis, is that a hop skipping to jump 497 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: away for you? 498 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: Or you know it's a it's an it's one hundred miles, 499 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: it's my car and that's where it is. And she 500 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: called uncle John and she said, I do right, I 501 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: could tow it back up here to Springville where I 502 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: listened to you on w T A X every Sunday. Right, 503 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: it's a delayed broadcast, right, but you know, kind of 504 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: at my wits end and wanting to help her. But 505 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: they've closed the closed the issue and closed the hood, 506 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: and I don't know where to go from here. 507 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think the approach has to be. 508 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Trying to get money out of General Motors could be 509 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: long and tedious, right, and. 510 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: I think it may have expired. What I've read on 511 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: the internet is they only covered it for seven years 512 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: and under that class action. 513 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: Right, and you're you're past that. 514 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: So at this point, you know, let's just figure out 515 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: how do we get out of it. It's just a 516 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: car and life's too short and not to not to 517 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: be blunted, you know what I mean. It's just it's 518 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's not worth the headache. So, you know, 519 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: is the rest of the car. Listen, let's have the 520 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: conversation about that. You put an engine in this car? 521 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: What kind of shape is the rest of the car? 522 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: Okay, it's it's it looks wonderful. 523 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: So if you if you found the shop and it 524 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: was it was I'm going to use New Jersey pricing 525 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: five to seven grand to put an engine in this 526 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: Five to seven grand is cheaper than you know, thirty, 527 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: cheaper than forty. Yes, you know, you've just got to 528 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: find somebody, Now do this. Do this John, you're in Springfield? Yes, 529 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: called Jazzper Engines. 530 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 3: Uh, yes, I thought about that. 531 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, called Jazzper Engines. And say, hey, I'm in Springfield. 532 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: Who's your local installer here in Springfield? And go and 533 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: go talk to them? All right, I think you have 534 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: to bring it up to uncle John, because I think 535 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: this way. You know, if you're going to be involved 536 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: in this financially, you're going to feel better about where 537 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: your money's going. You know, I understand that. Listen, this 538 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: is what this is what us elders have to do, 539 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: right where mentors to the kids. You know, it's part 540 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: of the process. But I think this way you can 541 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: oversee the operation and then when they're doing the engine. 542 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: If so, nobody does the engine. You know, we've got 543 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: to talk about the rest of it. Belts, hoses, tune 544 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: up parts, all the fluids in the rest of the vehicle. 545 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: Peek at the brakes, peak at the suspension. You know, 546 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: how's the rate that? Yeah, how's the radiator? All those things? 547 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, seventy miles got good tires. We just put brakes 548 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: on it, tune up the oil changes. Yeah. The thing 549 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: that she's I would have wished happened? Is is? Hey, 550 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: uncle John, when this thing I took it on a 551 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: two hundred mile trip, I came back I had no 552 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 3: oil in it. Right, that's when I wish that would 553 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: have been notified. But that's what it is, right, you know, 554 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. 555 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: You know I wish I had a better answer for you, John, 556 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: I can only tell you this. Just approach it with 557 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: a calm, cool head, and you'll. 558 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: You'll feel better about it. It's not worth it's not 559 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: worth getting upset over all, right, sir, have a good day. 560 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Good luck to you. That's a tough spot, 561 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's the price of the new car 562 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: though is has has just positioned things as you've got 563 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: to fix it. And I think we're seeing that more 564 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: and more. Somebody's telling me the today they were out 565 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: new car shopping the average new car interest rate is 566 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: between eight and ten percent. Wow, absolutely crazy. So you 567 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: know it's you got to look for the deals when 568 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: the when Toyota fond comes along with two point four 569 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: to nine percent. But that's a horse of another color. 570 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 571 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm Ronanini in the car doctor, I'll be back right 572 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: after this. 573 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: Don't go away. Welcome back. 574 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm running the Car Doctor here at your service. Looking 575 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: for more about us. By the way, get out the 576 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: car doctorshow dot com and see what it's all about. 577 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Jeremy in Washington, d C. Jeremy, 578 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir. 579 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: How can we help you today? 580 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 5: Hey, So I was working on my sister's O seven Highlander. 581 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 5: It had to have a couple of things done to 582 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 5: get past the safety inspection. I called you about a 583 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, right the control arm car end 584 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 5: up doing this lower control Yeah, and I ended up 585 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 5: my shop couldn't get him in in time like because 586 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 5: I had I was down to the wire because the 587 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: inspection thing. So I ended up doing him and that 588 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 5: that wasn't a lot of fun by the way, but uh, 589 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 5: as part of the same inspection, they had dinged her 590 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: for having uh the rear valve cover gasket on that car, 591 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 5: which is it's the transverse V six. That wasn't a 592 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 5: lot of fun either, by the way. They got her 593 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 5: for you know, oil dripping on the exhaust and you 594 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 5: know I it needed to be done anyway. So I'm like, 595 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 5: all right, screwed him. Already out here, it's already cold. Whatever, 596 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: let's just do it. And it was. It was no fun, 597 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: but you know I took it. Then due to a 598 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 5: variety of factors, I ended up taking it to another 599 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 5: shop to get reinspected after it had failed initially. And 600 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 5: he was like, uh, valve cover gas. He doesn't have 601 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: anything to do with safety. He's like, so you have 602 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: the occasional drop of oil and the exhaust, but he's like, 603 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 5: that's not a safety thing. And I I'm just wondering 604 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: when you were doing back when Jersey had inspections, if 605 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 5: that was on your all's list of stuff, if it 606 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 5: was listed under the emissions part, if you had like oil, 607 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 5: you know, gripping on the exhaust, if you would have 608 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: ding it. 609 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Did I tell you the story about the day the 610 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: car doctor went to work with the New Jersey Division 611 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: of Motor Vehicles. I'm about to no, you have not 612 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: so so in New Jersey. And this is going back 613 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: fifteen years or so or more, all right, which is 614 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: kind of sad because that tells me I've been on 615 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: the air that long and I'm getting older. But in 616 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: any event, the you know, New Jersey had a statute 617 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: on the books at the time under safety that if 618 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: the vehicle had an excess of oil leak, and for 619 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: this exact reason, I and I talked about this on 620 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: airon I got a visit from DMV, so I might 621 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: get a visit on Monday, we'll say, and I don't care. 622 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: And the conversation was I talked about how I had 623 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: a vehicle that had an oil leak, but New Jersey 624 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: had no parameter. They didn't say, well, you know, and 625 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: I always wanted to know. Is it a one inch league, 626 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: a three inch leak, a four inch leak? Is it 627 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: oil out under the you know, under the car that 628 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: is hitting the back bumper? Like how big of a leak? 629 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: Because before I I had the exact feeling as you 630 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: before I condemn a vehicle and take something off the 631 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: road that's preventing somebody from going to do their livelihood. 632 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: I need a parameter, I need a guideline. I need 633 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: to be able to say, well, let's see, it's six inches, 634 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: it's a six inch leak, you're out. New Jersey never 635 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: gave me an answer. And I explain that to them, 636 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure where they got stuck. But I 637 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: never heard back once they realized that. You know, I'm 638 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: not just some garage owner, but I'm this guy with 639 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: a radio show that you know. Not that I would 640 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: be nasty about it, but I wasn't thrilled to not 641 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: be able to talk about it. You know, it's prom 642 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: now by the same token, I agree that those back 643 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: valve covers are nasty, and I agree that they should 644 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: be done. My concern is how big of an oil 645 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: leak was it? Was it big enough that oil hitting 646 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: the exhaust manifold on a hot July day when underhood 647 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: temperature goes through the roof, could that. 648 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: Ignite and become a fire? 649 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: Oil does have a flash point, you know, It's like 650 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: I always tell people power steering fluid has a flash 651 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: point too. You know, at the very least it's going 652 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: to make a smoky, sloppy mess. When does the dripping 653 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: oil get down onto an oxygen sensor? You know, there's 654 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: one hundred ways to look at it, Jeremy, is it 655 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: legal in Washington d C? Parameters as far as safety 656 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: inspection that you know, since you've got one shop saying no, 657 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: in another shop saying yes, I would call DMV or 658 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: whoever does d m V for that for that area 659 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: that she's licensed them where the vehicle's inspected in and 660 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: you should be able to get a legal you know, 661 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: here's the requirement. It's got to meet this because either 662 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: Shop A is wrong or Shop B is wrong. 663 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: And you know from now, you know. 664 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 5: Sir, I already already did the thing. I was just curious, 665 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like I did it because, 666 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 5: like you said, it needed done and it was disgusting. 667 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: It will be yeah, let me let me say this, Jeremy. 668 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: It will be within the confines of whatever DMV allow 669 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: and just for future reference, you'll know from there. But yeah, 670 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: I agree, it's a vague reason. You've got to know 671 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: the reason why before you do it. Again, thanks for 672 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: the call. I'm ronning Ay in the car doctor. Hey, 673 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: coming up next, we're going in the shop, Curtesy Vota Zone, 674 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: don't go away, welcome back. I'm running the card doctor. 675 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: We're in the shop right now, courtesy the Folksover at 676 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: ontozonepro dot com. You know, for all my shop owners 677 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: out there, you know what it's like. Right it's three 678 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: o'clock Friday, and you got that last oil change going 679 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: on the rack, or that second to last oil change 680 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: going on the rack and you haven't gotten to it 681 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: yet because it's three o'clock and you're busy all morning, 682 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I got to get to that. 683 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 5: I know. 684 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: It's just an oil chain, that's all he wanted to do. 685 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: We just we should look it over. We don't have 686 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: time because we're too busy doing everything else. We had 687 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: one of those this week at twenty ten to four 688 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: to escape. I thought of Tom the old square body escapes, 689 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: and here was another one with high mileage on it, 690 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: and we took it for that road test about three 691 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: ZHO five and driving down the road, everything seemed good, 692 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: but when you stepped on the brake, you got this 693 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: nasty kathump kathump, kathump, kathump cathomp when you let off 694 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: the brake, and it just stayed there doing that until 695 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: you got back to the shop. We put it up 696 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: in the air and found that the left front brake 697 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: was locked. It wouldn't release, which I thought was strange 698 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: because it didn't pull. It didn't have a brake pull 699 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: one side or the other, but the left front brake 700 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: was definitely locked up. I released the bleeder, I opened 701 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: the bleeder on the right front and it released the 702 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: left front wheel, which told me the right front hose 703 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: was bad, and that explained why it didn't pull. Okay, 704 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: the left front was being applied, the right front was 705 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: not doing anything, and it. 706 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: Just I don't know. I still think about it and 707 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: I wonder why. 708 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: The bottom line, we called up bottles on and we 709 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: were able to get a set of hoses and calipers 710 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: in time. 711 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: Every time, I'm like they always do. 712 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: They came to our raid like the cavalry, and we 713 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: ever get the car out the door on time. So 714 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: when you're in that last minute pinch, you got to 715 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: call your part supplier. 716 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: Make sure it's when you can count on. 717 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: Find more at ontozonepro dot com. Till the next time. 718 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm ronning Andy and the car Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 719 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: they're priceless. 720 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: See you