Speaker 1: All right, welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys.
Speaker 1: I am your host Will Compton, my co host Tail Lawan.
Speaker 1: I believe he's on his way. He's running a little
Speaker 1: bit late, but you guys know the boy, he comes in,
Speaker 1: he'll be ready.
Speaker 2: He'll bring the juice, So bring the noise. A few things.
Speaker 1: We got a few what is it, house cleaning, housewarming,
Speaker 1: house cleaning the boys. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: saw last week, but we got to cease and desist
Speaker 1: from Budweiser as you guys watched this episode. I mean
Speaker 1: that's we've I guess that's been covered up for a while.
Speaker 1: But we're sitting on a Budweiser bus boys, so I
Speaker 1: hopefully that since we bought the bus, like, we're safe
Speaker 1: from that. But the fact that the boys are canceling
Speaker 1: us our merchandise, so if you guys see and that's
Speaker 1: another thing, I know we're running a sale right now,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with getting season desists. But you know,
Speaker 1: anything you guys see with Bud Budweiser style logos, you
Speaker 1: know it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be they're gonna be discontinued.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of murmurs out there people talking
Speaker 1: about collector's items selling on eBay. You know what I mean, NFTs,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole shebang. So if you guys
Speaker 1: are listening right now and you're like, I've been wanting
Speaker 1: to get that hoodie, comps got on.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of different colors out there.
Speaker 1: Again, has nothing to do with getting a season desist,
Speaker 1: but we have twenty percent off our entire merch store
Speaker 1: at the moment.
Speaker 2: I know you guys are listening on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys would have already seen it by now
Speaker 1: on Monday, because we'll be going live on that sale
Speaker 1: here soon.
Speaker 2: That's just a side note for the boys. I just
Speaker 2: ran a little quick meeting.
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Speaker 1: this Budweiser gig, Dale Earnhardt swinging for the boys he tagged,
Speaker 1: which might not seem like a lot, but maybe it
Speaker 1: does because I want to say Budweiser, Budweiser sponsors Dale,
Speaker 1: and I want to say Dale is I want to
Speaker 1: say Dale's like a part of Budweiser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think of like that was like a Bud
Speaker 2: like gig.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Overall, when I say umbrella, when I say Budweiser, the
Speaker 1: umbrella Anheuser bushes and one giving us that season desist.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's for sure. Yeah, I mean he's been with
Speaker 2: them forever, right. I got a message that night.
Speaker 1: From a couple of the local boys, and it's been
Speaker 1: it's been making its way up because they obviously. You know,
Speaker 1: I would like to get something like that fixed. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just makes the most sense, bro. Like, like I said,
Speaker 1: I've been, I've been on butt heavy. It's a huge compliment.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: The first day when I found out, I'm like, boys,
Speaker 1: we gotta see assist from Budweiser. And Alex comes up
Speaker 1: and just dash me up right away. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: why is that? He's like, Bro, that's awesome, Like we've.
Speaker 2: Made it, Like, yeah, that's a nod.
Speaker 1: Of respect, dude. Hopefully you know it. Either way, the
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Speaker 2: But anyway, that was a side note.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Stuff coming up for the boys, somehouse cleaning, housekeeping. The
Speaker 1: Spring Tour, the Bust and Spring Tour twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: is happening. We will be in Nebraska this week, so
Speaker 1: if you're listening right now, we will be in Nebraska Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday doing some fun shit, making some good
Speaker 1: content with the boys, doing like a water down recruit
Speaker 1: visit toward Taylor. I think we're gonna slide into some
Speaker 1: of the unis. We're gonna see some of the new
Speaker 1: facilities being built. We're gonna sit down with a couple players,
Speaker 1: I believe Scott Frost as well. But you guys will
Speaker 1: only be able to see this stuff and get this
Speaker 1: stuff on our YouTube channel because we're gonna be dropping
Speaker 1: this stuff like as we get them done. So on Thursday,
Speaker 1: when we sit down with a couple of players, when
Speaker 1: we get those episodes cleaned up and done, we're gonna
Speaker 1: drop them on YouTube right away for you guys to
Speaker 1: listen and watch what for you guys to watch on
Speaker 1: YouTube so it's not gonna be like a weekly one
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Speaker 1: and Tennessee. Right now, once we do the interviews, we're
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Speaker 2: What do you got, Alex.
Speaker 4: We also just crossed as of this morning, one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty thousand subscribers.
Speaker 1: Really, let's fucking go. We've been doing solid man. It's
Speaker 1: it's incredible. It's like it's incredible to know where we
Speaker 1: were at three years ago. Bean Blost, I know you're
Speaker 1: in that parking lot with us. It's just nuts, man,
Speaker 1: and it's been a lot of fun. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: Bustin's Football Spring Tour twenty twenty two, brought to you
Speaker 1: by Chevy, that will be coming at you Nebraska this week,
Speaker 1: Michigan next week next like Friday and Saturday, and then
Speaker 1: we're still figuring out the foundation to go out to
Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee to watch a spring practice, to
Speaker 1: make content, have fun on social media, drop you guys
Speaker 1: these interviews on YouTube, and that'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Also April twenty fourth, the Boys are doing their first
Speaker 1: live show at Zany's April twenty fourth at the comedy
Speaker 1: club Zaney's in Nashville. Our show starts at four pm.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys this now. There are no more tickets.
Speaker 1: I want to say, we sold that in five hours. Again,
Speaker 1: fucking incredible.
Speaker 2: Taylor and I got to figure that shit out because
Speaker 2: we can't just go up there.
Speaker 1: It just goes there. Hey, so what do we do?
Speaker 1: What do we talk about? But we'll have a lot
Speaker 1: of fun with everybody, the crowd. But yeah, that is
Speaker 1: on April twenty fourth. That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 1: We're also gonna do this little free shout segment. I
Speaker 1: want to say, I hear the boy outside right now.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he gets a sass in here. But now we
Speaker 1: will get into Uh. We had a legend on Mike Alstott.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's pretty sett and stone right, the
Speaker 1: greatest full back of all time, Yeah, I mean him.
Speaker 2: We talked about what Lorenzo O'Neil. He was a monster.
Speaker 1: But dude, watching all start highlights growing up like and
Speaker 1: I was a white running back growing up in the
Speaker 1: in the Little league, playing around So Mike Alstott is
Speaker 1: who you watched in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Were you a necro guy? No?
Speaker 1: But I when I created a player all the time, Matt,
Speaker 1: I was a neckro guy. But I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: when we played outside, you know how you always pretended
Speaker 1: to be players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like EMMITTT Smith, Eddie, George Terrell, Davis TD.
Speaker 1: But the only like white dude that toe toked the
Speaker 1: rock was Mike Alstott and just bulldozing dudes.
Speaker 2: But he was awesome man, Mike, he came. We had
Speaker 2: a really good time.
Speaker 1: But we get into I think what was interesting is
Speaker 1: him talking about the differences in coach Dungee and coach
Speaker 1: John Ruden. What we got in some good Rich Pasachi
Speaker 1: stories because Mike he's got we have a lot of
Speaker 1: people in common. Basachi got started, was getting started while
Speaker 1: Mike all thought was in the league. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of coaches and stuff that he was telling a
Speaker 1: lot of funny stories on. But what else, what other
Speaker 1: things where we getting into in that episode? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was tough to sit there. We're kind of feeling
Speaker 1: each other out. Taylor and I are Bolston in our
Speaker 1: chair is kind of feeling like this motherfucker wants to
Speaker 1: call a softest fuck right now because he talks about
Speaker 1: like the landscape of what off seasons look like now
Speaker 1: compared to how they did it back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talk about some CBA stuff, how it's evolved over time.
Speaker 1: But you could tell he's a he's straight blue collar dude.
Speaker 2: That dude, you know, back in the day, he just
Speaker 2: wanted to drink beer and play football.
Speaker 3: He's coaching high school right now too, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's coaching high school down in outside to
Speaker 1: Tampa correct, outside of Tampa floor, I believe.
Speaker 2: Uh, but it's an awesome episode. You guys will love
Speaker 2: it again.
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Speaker 2: Man bust with the boys. Oh you even got the
Speaker 2: hat on. I don't see these numbers rolling. Boy, there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 5: I got a weird complex about these numbers. You mean, well,
Speaker 5: I we're not rolling unless those that time is rolling.
Speaker 5: So now I know we're rolling because it's a it's
Speaker 5: a difficult thing when you start a podcast and I
Speaker 5: just met you for the first time. We're both playing
Speaker 5: this limbo of foundation this is gonna be a real
Speaker 5: friendship or is this like an hour and a half
Speaker 5: thing we're gonna do? And uh, but then you start
Speaker 5: talking about stuff and it's like, well we should wait
Speaker 5: for the pod.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You know, so what is it? It's like we go
Speaker 6: through that that that time right there, the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a smaller brain.
Speaker 2: The time allows him to know that we've started the podcast. Yeah, conkies, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of helpful a lot of things that
Speaker 2: I need to look to you right now.
Speaker 3: You know I have I have my issues too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do for it?
Speaker 3: Try not think about it?
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's one way to go about a fullback thing,
Speaker 5: to say, yeah, yeah it's all right.
Speaker 2: Oh this just the arms thinks the wrong way like that,
Speaker 2: It'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Do you expect any other answer from arguably the most
Speaker 1: iconic fullback of all time?
Speaker 2: Just like, so, what do you do best?
Speaker 3: Iconic?
Speaker 2: I just don't think about it.
Speaker 3: Who else is?
Speaker 2: Who else to be more iconic? The only person has
Speaker 2: the chances?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to disrespect anybody.
Speaker 5: But Scanty who's the dude from forty nine ers Kyle, Yeah,
Speaker 5: lost that Bay Niners guy back here. But you is
Speaker 5: like he's like, he's way more finesse, but he's definitely
Speaker 5: like a dude, that's like you watch him.
Speaker 6: You know, my buddy, my buddy that and yeah, low
Speaker 6: Neil Lorenzo Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's a he played
Speaker 6: with me in the year.
Speaker 3: He's a he's a good buddy of mine. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But uh, you know he's shoe and true full back
Speaker 6: right there, you know what i mean. Yeah, kind of
Speaker 6: like us, me or even the other guys. You know,
Speaker 6: I don't even think he's in touched the ball in
Speaker 6: eighteen years.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Really, I mean talk about O'Neil. Yeah, because he's just
Speaker 2: a blogger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he would get it. You'd get this
Speaker 3: and that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were still pretty I mean if you
Speaker 1: moaned motherfuckers down, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: You're not how humble you are. But like we're over
Speaker 2: here being kids. Yeah you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I'm talking.
Speaker 5: You don't know you would go to a target when
Speaker 5: you were playing back in there and the kid be like, Mommy,
Speaker 5: that's a that's a you know, like we're doing that
Speaker 5: right now, just in front of you with you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and we're thirty the old the old a we're thirty
Speaker 5: right now, the old man games, the late game days
Speaker 5: in the nineties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, this is a good run. What I head
Speaker 6: talk about?
Speaker 3: You guys? How you doing?
Speaker 2: No to go back on the head stuff?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: Has that been a problem for you?
Speaker 5: Is is that stuff that you really do pay attention to,
Speaker 5: you see, guys like head stuff recovering from football after
Speaker 5: you played for so long.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I I think.
Speaker 6: Probably the beginning of you know, the pandemic twenty twenty, right,
Speaker 6: it was. It was something I really focused on. And
Speaker 6: then the pandemic had it, and then my daughter, you know,
Speaker 6: she was like kind of like not vegan, but we're
Speaker 6: more organic and and kind of getting some shit going on,
Speaker 6: and and you know the thing was, uh, I kind
Speaker 6: of got in that realm. And then with these guys
Speaker 6: with Tisa, you know, Doc who's the creator of this,
Speaker 6: he kind of got that so so anti aging, you know,
Speaker 6: worried about now and like taking care of your body
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, and you know, and you'll see it,
Speaker 6: You'll see your eyself, you know, I'm forty eight years old, man.
Speaker 6: So it's like, man, I spent a lot of time
Speaker 6: in trying not to get seriously like Alzheimer's and dimension
Speaker 6: and fight that shit.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: The scary thing is you get older for sure.
Speaker 5: I mean I'm thirty thirty two, yeah, and I'm thinking
Speaker 5: about it all the time. I was telling my h
Speaker 5: one of our buddies back there when I finished the season.
Speaker 5: There's like two or three weeks where I'm like, I
Speaker 5: from a cognitive standpoint, I'm not projecting my sentences as well.
Speaker 5: I'm not like cognitively like saying like you want.
Speaker 3: To send out too. You're getting older, Yeah, you get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely that hurt it here, by the way, that
Speaker 2: definitely young forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I know the time when you when you're like fifteen
Speaker 5: sixteen years old in high school and you think I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do this rest of my life and then you
Speaker 5: like get older and you're like, you're so brainwashed in
Speaker 5: the world of football, especially high school, especially college. Then
Speaker 5: when he gets the NFL, you kind of get a
Speaker 5: view of like the business and how it really is.
Speaker 3: When you're in college, it's a little different. I think
Speaker 3: with Uh, what are you going to? How many years
Speaker 3: you in the now?
Speaker 2: Eight is going to be nine?
Speaker 3: Wow? And you're you're similar right, just finished nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah you're ten more. We might be chasing your ten.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, that's cool.
Speaker 6: But it's just, uh, it was a different era when
Speaker 6: I played. Yeah, I mean it was just like, you know,
Speaker 6: the business side was there, but we really didn't you know,
Speaker 6: look like that, you know what I mean. You look
Speaker 6: at it more for just like the love of the games,
Speaker 6: the love of the game, especially the guys I played with. Man,
Speaker 6: I played with. Some my teammates are amazing, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. You know we had Derek Brigs, Ronde Barber,
Speaker 6: you know, we had sat with Lynch. I mean, we
Speaker 6: had all these guys that were just like on Blue
Speaker 6: the Hall of Famers, but you know, we were really boys,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Yeah, we're tight, you know
Speaker 6: and stuff, and it was kind of cool. And that's
Speaker 6: what I missed, you know what I mean. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: missed that. I missed the locker room. I missed you know,
Speaker 6: I didn't get you know, I didn't get the money
Speaker 6: you guys got, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It was it was fighting.
Speaker 6: I would have played every year though, man, because I
Speaker 6: had like my last four years, I believe last three
Speaker 6: or four years.
Speaker 3: You know, I was on a one year deal.
Speaker 6: I'm a retired shure, I'm a retired of retired, and
Speaker 6: I would have played until I would have been like
Speaker 6: Brady and.
Speaker 3: Played until, you know whatever.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, you know, I blew out my neck
Speaker 6: and I was done, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 6: it was a great though. Man, you guys live it up, bro.
Speaker 6: It's pretty freaking amazing.
Speaker 5: When the next thing happened and you and they said
Speaker 5: do you hey, you're done or you had to make
Speaker 5: the decision for yourself that you were done. Like what
Speaker 5: was that? How did you feel? Was that process? Like
Speaker 5: knowing that, like, hey, the dream's over?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 6: Well, first of all three it happened. The first one happened, right,
Speaker 6: So I go out and get what exactly happened. Okay,
Speaker 6: so I her name uh five six ye six, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Hernie did it.
Speaker 6: So I actually was coming through and I was gonna
Speaker 6: take on a dB and stuff like that, and then
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, Joe Jervish just comes in and
Speaker 6: I'm already going at it, right, and he he goes in.
Speaker 6: He's blocked. That guy fro out and I hit him.
Speaker 6: I blew out his knee. I popped my neck and
Speaker 6: uh yeah one special Yeah yeah so it was that then?
Speaker 2: Did you have neck problems before this?
Speaker 6: Now? No, No, it's kind of like it just ready
Speaker 6: to burst, you know, volcano raiders, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Just one hits the mirror when you pop it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, them high school boys, that one right the bridge,
Speaker 5: and I guess.
Speaker 6: So long story short is, I, uh, we have a
Speaker 6: bye week, was getting them rise, going through all that stuff,
Speaker 6: and Monday, Monday we have not we have a we
Speaker 6: have a Monday night game.
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know. I'm out. I
Speaker 3: haven't practiced right.
Speaker 6: The thing is, once I got loosened up, warmed up,
Speaker 6: my neck didn't bother me at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was only when I woke up and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: Anyway, Foster, short is, I fly up to Pittsburgh and
Speaker 6: I meet Maroon was a doctor for the Steelers.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: I go up inside, had the big old film right
Speaker 6: carrying in the airport. Go up there and I go
Speaker 6: one thing and I go, yeah, you're gonna need some surgery.
Speaker 6: I go, okay, can I go back? Do I have
Speaker 6: any risks of prolysis? He's like no, I said, I'll
Speaker 6: see later, doc. I got him playing get a private
Speaker 6: jet back and playing at a escort to the stadium.
Speaker 3: I played that Monday night.
Speaker 5: No ship, he meets your process. No appreciate you. Hey,
Speaker 5: thanks for nothing. You know who's go ahead and send
Speaker 5: me whose training was at the time? Nor oh really
Speaker 5: you your time?
Speaker 3: Best?
Speaker 1: He's the best man, that is the best, and was
Speaker 1: as he.
Speaker 6: Was like, he's I was supposed to I was supposed
Speaker 6: to text him.
Speaker 3: That Broadway got a hold of me.
Speaker 6: Man, Oh yeah, you've been in town.
Speaker 3: For Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: Oh really the game on Saturday?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know with you guys and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: that hockey stuff.
Speaker 2: Man, I was talking about.
Speaker 1: He's like the toughest player he's ever been around. Said,
Speaker 1: he's literally never come off the fields. You only came
Speaker 1: off because you actually like tore your m CL and
Speaker 1: you just couldn't really do anything.
Speaker 2: Said.
Speaker 1: You were also pissed at him for at least a
Speaker 1: week because you had broke your thumb, I believe, and
Speaker 1: you looked at Tosa.
Speaker 2: Do not tell coach doungee or I will kill you.
Speaker 1: And Dungee apparently was in the training room and you
Speaker 1: can help put the story together, but Dungee comes in
Speaker 1: and toss us. He just feels Mike staring at him
Speaker 1: the entire time and watches him say and he goes,
Speaker 1: Mike didn't talk to me for at least a week.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, I recall that then, yeah, no, yeah, that's
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, that was our relationship, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. But and I wasn't worried about doing you
Speaker 6: so much. I wasn't worried about growdon, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean? And uh, because you know, you know he
Speaker 6: won't put you in a game plan or something like that.
Speaker 6: You're hurting so like that you you don't know what's
Speaker 6: going on, right, and like you don't tell all these guys.
Speaker 6: You don't tell anybody, And uh, I go, you tell
Speaker 6: my running back coach. He's cool, and then he'll sneak
Speaker 6: me in and play. So I look like I'm practicing
Speaker 6: until I'm good for Sunday, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, so you share on film, but.
Speaker 6: That's cool, yeah, todd Man, like, hey, you're a couple,
Speaker 6: any of a couple, of vitamins. Can you got him
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, you know, during practicing. Yeah, cool, good,
Speaker 6: cool dude.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: So I was all about helping the boys out. Huh.
Speaker 3: He really do.
Speaker 2: He'll do whatever it takes to make sure the boys
Speaker 2: can make it to Sunday.
Speaker 3: Bro. He's the best. He really is really cool.
Speaker 6: And again, you know, we built a relationship his his
Speaker 6: family grew up same age as up my family and
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So it's like we all we all
Speaker 6: were in the league at the same time with.
Speaker 3: You, you know. Yeah, cool dude. He's a great dude. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But uh so what's what's your guys story? How about
Speaker 6: I'm yeah, no, like and what I was saying though,
Speaker 6: it is like, how's the off season work now?
Speaker 1: So the way you explain everything, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: lot the way players are. I feel like it has
Speaker 1: obviously changed a lot, and you can see it from
Speaker 1: a bird's eye view anyway.
Speaker 6: But but no, but it's like, oh man, it's like
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, we'll possed my mind. I always
Speaker 6: had like fat February, Right February, I'd take it off,
Speaker 6: I'd eat you know, anything right at February and then
Speaker 6: March first is my like.
Speaker 3: Yeah and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So for me, we were kind of talking about this
Speaker 5: before the podcast, it's like, as soon as the season ends,
Speaker 5: it's two weeks. Yeah, man, I'll eat whatever, do whatever.
Speaker 5: And that's that's my probably favorite time of the year.
Speaker 5: It's the best time. Tacos, nachos, huge Mexican guy, stress,
Speaker 5: Margarita's get it, do whatever you want. And then you
Speaker 5: I feel like towards the end of those two weeks,
Speaker 5: for me, I get like this.
Speaker 2: You start looking in the mirror and you're like, what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen here?
Speaker 5: Like what we're doing, and then you feel like you
Speaker 5: got to get back after it two weeks. If I
Speaker 5: go any longer than two weeks, I really start to
Speaker 5: get a jittery.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so then when you work out, No, like for us,
Speaker 6: we're all at the facility, know.
Speaker 3: The whole the whole season, the whole team, the whole team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like that.
Speaker 3: At all, close clear all the man, I mean, everybody
Speaker 3: was like, we.
Speaker 5: Are a string coach. For Frank Perano, He's a great dude.
Speaker 5: He's a great string coach. But I think the way
Speaker 5: it is now at least how I feel is like
Speaker 5: you spend six seven months in the same building, the
Speaker 5: same guys over and over again. When the season ends,
Speaker 5: I don't want anything to do with that building. I
Speaker 5: want to get the hell out, go, re charge the batteries,
Speaker 5: get back to neutral, and then come back in April
Speaker 5: May whenever OTA's mandatory mini camp is, and then just
Speaker 5: know that you're fresh in camp and kind of ready
Speaker 5: to go. I kind of get to the point where
Speaker 5: you're excited to be back in the building.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Guys carry themselves like independent contractors. Yeah, it's not like
Speaker 1: you guys saw it, more like probably family team, a
Speaker 1: lot of different stuff.
Speaker 2: And I feel like now guys very much are leadership.
Speaker 6: Like I mean, I remember the time. You know, there's
Speaker 6: a group of us like me, Dave Moore and Jeff Chris.
Speaker 6: We we we lived in Saint Pete stuff. He's like, hey,
Speaker 6: how can you guys we started just working out in
Speaker 6: Hotez time. And the long story short is, you know,
Speaker 6: then you brought us in and said, hey, I can
Speaker 6: guess not.
Speaker 3: There and stuff like that. I'm like, well, we're doing
Speaker 3: it now.
Speaker 6: But we made up a couple of things and stuff
Speaker 6: like that, and I go our families over there, our
Speaker 6: kids they just dropped off to school, pick him up
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, because we knew he was a
Speaker 6: big family guy, right, so we leave those kids on. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he's like, uh, you're playing chess with Yeah, but he's like,
Speaker 6: all right, see tomorrow there.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But you get texting that from the coach, I got it.
Speaker 2: The coach would talk to you even if you guys
Speaker 2: it was the off season.
Speaker 3: You know, we would just love to see around here.
Speaker 3: And we're like, does that mean you know? So he
Speaker 3: that's the type of coach he was.
Speaker 6: He was like, hey, let's talk about it, and you're
Speaker 6: old enough you'll make a decision.
Speaker 3: Make sure it's the right one. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, it's not like there was a
Speaker 5: whole lot of talking. We'll hear you out for a second,
Speaker 5: but you know what the answer is going to.
Speaker 3: Be at the end. It wasn't. It wasn't like yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just what was the cb CBA like that?
Speaker 2: What was the CBA like when you were playing?
Speaker 5: Because if that would happen now, there'd be a lot
Speaker 5: of guys snitching on their coaches, Like guys coaches aren't
Speaker 5: allowed to say, hey, we you should be here.
Speaker 2: Really or make the right decision.
Speaker 6: There's there's a there's a there's a thing that's like
Speaker 6: like anything else, you know, volunteers mandatory, Yeah, and they
Speaker 6: don't have that rule in the morning.
Speaker 3: The NFL.
Speaker 1: They do for ot as the OTA period of like
Speaker 1: April through June, right, because then you have mandatory mini
Speaker 1: camp in June.
Speaker 2: But before that it's like optional. It's like ot as.
Speaker 6: The guys gonna like, you know, when you guys use
Speaker 6: that that card, you guys play that hand.
Speaker 3: You guys.
Speaker 6: Uh, I feel like everyone get trumped anywhere, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like this guy is not you know,
Speaker 6: he's not a team guy.
Speaker 3: He's not this or not.
Speaker 5: Like do you worry that you kind of probably play
Speaker 5: in your head a little bit when you if you
Speaker 5: were to not go. Now, the last two years have
Speaker 5: been funky because this whole COVID gay so they're like
Speaker 5: kind of we're doing zoom meetings and we're not really
Speaker 5: meeting together and stuff like that. So it's been kind
Speaker 5: of an iffy making it. I think it's becoming the
Speaker 5: new normal where hey, the first couple of weeks of ota.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's gonna be like yeah, crazy, right.
Speaker 5: I think I think right now we're doing this around
Speaker 5: the bush thing. How do you feel about how soft
Speaker 5: the NFL's gone since you've.
Speaker 3: Been playing it is trying to get there?
Speaker 5: I have I felt it. I was slow dragging it
Speaker 5: for a while. But how much are you disappointed and
Speaker 5: how soft is gone? Because you're one of those dudes.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think, you know, I think I think
Speaker 6: some of you players kind of feeling the two while
Speaker 6: you're it's soft though.
Speaker 5: It's definitely a software league in a lot of ways,
Speaker 5: but it's a it's a weird dynamic because when I go,
Speaker 5: we didn't take off the pads. I know, you didn't
Speaker 5: take off the pads. Listen, I get it. I I
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 6: Maybe it would have gave me, you know, I would
Speaker 6: have had, like, you know again, two three more years
Speaker 6: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But you know I went in three days in college.
Speaker 2: Bro, I listen, that shit's wild, right, It's like fucking
Speaker 2: so much. It's like a newer players.
Speaker 5: As a newer player, you would sit there and go, well,
Speaker 5: the money is better now, the quarterbacks are more protected
Speaker 5: and it doesn't hurt much in your body, so like
Speaker 5: it's kind of a win for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: No, I'm not I'm not managed. You know the stern.
Speaker 5: Presence about you, you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Just you're the dungey thing with you and him. What
Speaker 2: we gotta go right now?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. Yeah, Okay at the end of it.
Speaker 1: How do you guys about voluntarily not going? How do
Speaker 1: you guys feel You're like, fuck, maybe we should go.
Speaker 1: I think too, Like when you talk about getting the
Speaker 1: extra two and three years, like overtime, past players have
Speaker 1: set like every generation helps set up the next generation
Speaker 1: in a way, right, But at the same time, it
Speaker 1: also gets a little softer because guys are now taught
Speaker 1: to see you more like a business, because you realize
Speaker 1: how the team uses all the players like a business.
Speaker 1: Like you're on your one year deal, Like you're on
Speaker 1: your one year deals in the back end of your
Speaker 1: career and your Mike Alstot in Tampa Bay, you're a
Speaker 1: champion of Pro Bowl, you're everything else. And it's like,
Speaker 1: guys before all of us come in and start setting
Speaker 1: up negotiating new things to where it puts a little
Speaker 1: bit more of the I guess quote unquote power for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, like in the hands more
Speaker 1: of a player, because if a coach is to talk
Speaker 1: like that to you, it would matter to you. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to Taylor, but for bottom half roster guys,
Speaker 1: probably like myself, if I'm younger, back in my younger days,
Speaker 1: and a coach is like, yeah, we'll see if you
Speaker 1: make the right choice, I'm like, fellas, listen, I don't
Speaker 1: want to turn my back on you guys, because I
Speaker 1: know you wants to kind of hold out and.
Speaker 2: Not go in. But my job I gotta fucking go in.
Speaker 3: No, no, no question.
Speaker 1: Now it's kind of gotten to a place to where
Speaker 1: now the majority of players have figured not are figuring
Speaker 1: out how to stand together a little bit more. And
Speaker 1: then every year there's like a different challenge than something else.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's how now the whole voluntarily better.
Speaker 3: You're playing the whole business game, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2: A lot more than the way yeah.
Speaker 3: You were you talking about earlier.
Speaker 6: You're playing the business a little bit more than we're
Speaker 6: just focused on everything else.
Speaker 3: And so it's like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you said, though you're a rookie or young player,
Speaker 6: stuff that year around and you're whatever and upcoming and
Speaker 6: stuff like that. You want to be seeing, right, absolutely,
Speaker 6: And how's the question?
Speaker 3: You know, hey, you're working out?
Speaker 6: Is it just when you come in you look good,
Speaker 6: you look fit and stuff like that, they get you.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: That's how it's pen since I've been in the NFL
Speaker 2: since fourteen. It's kind of been like when after my
Speaker 2: rookie year, they'd be all right, see in April, they're like,
Speaker 2: oh fuck, I canna do whatever I want, right, you know,
Speaker 2: going to bender for a week and a half, wake up,
Speaker 2: it's like what day is it? And then you kind
Speaker 2: of get after it.
Speaker 3: You know that you have felt like that, Yeah, no
Speaker 3: doubt your right. It really does.
Speaker 5: That's a little mini Vegas like uh like a Bourbon Street.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, it really is like that little cleaner though,
Speaker 5: how a man you gonna look on this podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing.
Speaker 5: But there's there's definitely a level of like it's been
Speaker 5: this way since I've been in it. So for me
Speaker 5: to say like, oh it's gotten soft, like you know,
Speaker 5: not a whole lot has changed since I've been in it.
Speaker 3: There was one time.
Speaker 6: It was pretty cool, like and that I was telling
Speaker 6: these guys earlier throughout the week or something like that.
Speaker 6: So I think it was ninety eight when we were
Speaker 6: right before we go into ninety nine uh NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3: So so in nineteen ninety eight we were hurt.
Speaker 6: We were banged up, middle of the year, right, and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, man, we hit a DOUNGEE takes
Speaker 6: pads off and I was like, holy shit, well what
Speaker 6: do you mean take off pads?
Speaker 3: You all right? You got a fever and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He didn't care.
Speaker 6: He never changed his his demeanor doesn't matter. Well, who
Speaker 6: was it is? The next guy up? We weren't going
Speaker 6: to change. But all of a sudden, we were rarely
Speaker 6: banged up, and he's like, hey, take off the pass.
Speaker 3: So we going to eight? Oh run right? And and
Speaker 3: uh run?
Speaker 6: Well what I'm saying we went an eight game winning
Speaker 6: just like seven eight games, it was like, and we
Speaker 6: were off the pass the whole year.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden.
Speaker 6: I think it was like I think it was week sixteen,
Speaker 6: we get our ask kicked in Oakland, like, you know,
Speaker 6: fifty to nothing or something like thirty four to nothing
Speaker 6: or something like that, right, pads on the next day, right,
Speaker 6: just inn't you know. It's just that's how you know,
Speaker 6: I grew up in the league, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: who's specially with Doungeee he was all right, we're not
Speaker 6: gonna straighte that playing at all.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between like Dungee and Gruden?
Speaker 3: Oh, night and day.
Speaker 1: Because Dungee, you guys, you guys are in the playoffs
Speaker 1: a lot with with Dungeon. You guys in ninety nine
Speaker 1: lost that championship game. Then you guys are you know,
Speaker 1: getting the Wald card stuff like that. Years after that,
Speaker 1: then obviously Groom comes in. You guys won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But what are the differences with like Dungee and Gruden?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, it's.
Speaker 6: You know, it went from you know, how should I
Speaker 6: say it?
Speaker 3: It was a big difference. It was a big difference.
Speaker 6: You know, you didn't get in you know, you didn't
Speaker 6: get in trouble with Dungee.
Speaker 3: Otherwise you're you know, you're gone.
Speaker 6: Right, we've seen guys get a d u I see
Speaker 6: later you have to team just like that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was a big guy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: Hey, you're gonna do it all the time that summer
Speaker 6: the time, and all the time is the all season
Speaker 6: two when you're behind, when you're in the community and
Speaker 6: stuff like that, and you're doing all this stuff.
Speaker 3: And he raised us. Man, I mean he you know,
Speaker 3: six years he coached me, he.
Speaker 6: Drafted me, and then you know he takes over Derrick
Speaker 6: Brooks and lunch and and and sat and stuff like that. Basically,
Speaker 6: again there was it was, there's no again, we're gonna
Speaker 6: play football, We're gonna we're gonna be community people. We're
Speaker 6: gonna do this, We're gonna do that, and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: So again a lot of guys straightened up.
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Speaker 6: When Gruden came in, we're you know, broke for six years.
Speaker 6: I was seven years. I was six years. I think
Speaker 6: Lynch is ten. So yeah, and there's a we knew
Speaker 6: it was our team, you know what I mean, Layer
Speaker 6: led team.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 6: I mean we controlled their stuff. That's cool. A lot
Speaker 6: of free agents they didn't. They didn't make it in airplace, right,
Speaker 6: you got to come any buy in buck Ball. There's
Speaker 6: no selfishness, there's no talking shit about us, about players
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. It wasn't like that at all
Speaker 6: in my twelve years. Yeah, you guys ran the show
Speaker 6: out there like that.
Speaker 3: It was good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean think about it, man, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 6: I had we had some louder personalities. I mean on
Speaker 6: our team, you know, what I means. Yeah, yeah, you know, no,
Speaker 6: you had you had some you had some lot of
Speaker 6: personalities and stuff like that, and he controlled that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, people getting when people are allowed, get that mixed
Speaker 5: up for someone being an eye guy and someone being
Speaker 5: for the boys or the team. Right, if you're allowed,
Speaker 5: doesn't mean like you're not in it right with all
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's I just don't feel like maybe I
Speaker 6: don't know you guys, you guys live it is it
Speaker 6: is it not like that anymore because it's so what
Speaker 6: so everybody's so spread out.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I think.
Speaker 5: I mean when I first got to the Titans, I
Speaker 5: talked about this all the time in this podcast. When
Speaker 5: I firstaid the Titans, it was the wild West people
Speaker 5: just doing whatever the fun they wanted, whenever they wanted.
Speaker 5: And now, really, since Rabel has gotten in the team
Speaker 5: has really taken accountability. He's it's all time, dude.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy because I was just I was
Speaker 2: having success.
Speaker 5: You'd like the Patriots, you see them having success forever,
Speaker 5: and you're like, funk, are we ever going to be
Speaker 5: even good enough?
Speaker 6: You know, like, yeah, it's cool to see you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, we're not gonna get there right a
Speaker 6: little bit.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Hey, I don't so, yeah, I was just.
Speaker 6: I was we were just talking about, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: the guys out of Flick or Finch out of Ohio
Speaker 6: State back then too, you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's cool man school to see uh him
Speaker 3: do well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's definitely got that attitude that brings brings
Speaker 2: everybody together.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. Sure when you play the New England, it's
Speaker 3: pretty interesting. Huh.
Speaker 5: Oh, you can tell Verbel wants it so bad. But
Speaker 5: I think the last three times we played him, or
Speaker 5: four times we played them, we've won three.
Speaker 2: We lost the last time we played them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty bad actually, but the first half we were
Speaker 5: close and we didn't have like we were missing a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of guys on our team making excuses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big time.
Speaker 5: I was like, I think, when you get far enough
Speaker 5: away from a situation, you kind of say whatever you
Speaker 5: want that you're no longer accountable for your the remarks, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the canceled deal cancel people out there.
Speaker 3: But I think.
Speaker 5: Rabel has done a great job of been stealing in
Speaker 5: stealing it like that kind of attitude and a lot
Speaker 5: of guys in the team, younger guys in the team, uh,
Speaker 5: specifically Jeffrey Simmons, the leadership he brings and guys are
Speaker 5: really doing a great job.
Speaker 3: So I could see, you know, he just I get it.
Speaker 6: I feel he has that that presence around where you
Speaker 6: don't want to strew up, you play for your coach
Speaker 6: type of thing, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, and will touch on this for a second,
Speaker 5: but it's so different the way he is in the
Speaker 5: building and the way he is out of the building.
Speaker 2: Because when you when he first got to the Titans.
Speaker 5: Everybody always always got a lippern sucking on a babe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he walked by his car, marblows console needs to
Speaker 2: be these yeah yeah, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll talk about those in a second. But yeah,
Speaker 5: he definitely when when you first met him, you were like, damn, yeah,
Speaker 5: this photo we took that on Saturday.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: I was like, very what's up you're trying to sign
Speaker 2: me for year ten? What are we trying to do?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 1: That's whole letter and kick slides in from him. Punt says,
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, drag hand dragand and so.
Speaker 5: But like in the building, he kills Will when Will
Speaker 5: was on the team, verbally assaults that poor man. And
Speaker 5: then outside the building there I think Rabel is like
Speaker 5: Will's his favorite player he's ever coached.
Speaker 2: Gotta be he gotta be close, and you're on Saturday.
Speaker 2: I'd tell you what Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's just a weird mind fuck dude, Like you understand
Speaker 1: the presence he has in the building, right, And then
Speaker 1: we'll be in the off season. I won't even be
Speaker 1: on the and I won't even be on them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I won't even be on the team, and he'll
Speaker 1: hit me up and you know, what are you up
Speaker 1: to talk about our vacations and this? And then I'm thinking, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know this to really like mess with me
Speaker 1: like that, just because he's like a stern.
Speaker 2: And then as I came back.
Speaker 1: On the team for my second stint, he would he
Speaker 1: would he would look at like my social media and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, bringing up let's see what our social
Speaker 1: media marketer wants to do today or what he do
Speaker 1: last night. But yeah, he busts balls me with the belt.
Speaker 1: You never want to be in a one of those
Speaker 1: verbal altercations with.
Speaker 5: Him, because that's it's tough too, because if you kind
Speaker 5: of get on him too much, then he'll then'll flip
Speaker 5: the script on you and talk about and he'll be like, hey, listen,
Speaker 5: it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: A big deal of it.
Speaker 1: You're like, what are you doing? You know we're just
Speaker 1: around right now, like hey, block up? Oh and so yeah,
Speaker 1: all right now, you're just bringing up fucking tape. Like, god,
Speaker 1: damn dud, who do.
Speaker 2: You have a sack three weeks ago? Weird shots are.
Speaker 3: Raining down on me right now.
Speaker 1: Be a better linebacker than you were in week two.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, okay, that's a fuck. That one hurt
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Straight bullets, dude, just keeping those whole How was it
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: This year? Man? You got you guys, you gotta you
Speaker 3: gotta fill me in. I haven't talked to my boys,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Basachi I went there probably towards the end
Speaker 1: of the year. In November, he face signs me and
Speaker 1: calls me up because we just bunched each other's balls
Speaker 1: about saying happy thanksgiving this stuff to each other. So
Speaker 1: he calls me up. I think he's calling me to
Speaker 1: like bust my balls again about something. So I'm ready
Speaker 1: to like give it back to him. He's like, he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: are you in shape? I was like, I can play,
Speaker 1: and he goes, for real, don't fuck with me, Kel
Speaker 1: like can you could you play special teams if you
Speaker 1: had to? I was like, yes, I can play, and
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, I think we're gonna work something
Speaker 1: out anyway. Long story short, I end up going out
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, but being with Basaci when he was
Speaker 1: the interim head coach after everything that went down with Gruden, like,
Speaker 1: it was awesome being out there with him.
Speaker 2: And you know, Basachi, he like you would fucking like
Speaker 2: Mike All stot a wall for that man.
Speaker 3: No, no question, no question.
Speaker 2: He's the best bro. I mean, he on more.
Speaker 3: He he wanted me to bring up we call him
Speaker 3: muff mouth and stuff like that. Go tea right, And
Speaker 3: so yeah, he came in.
Speaker 2: Yo, he said, he so he wanted, he wanted.
Speaker 1: He's like, ask him how I ended up locked out
Speaker 1: of my room at two am the morning in my underwear,
Speaker 1: he said, ask him about that, ask about we'll go
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: About So.
Speaker 6: We were I camp and then me and Jeff Christy
Speaker 6: my center. I always hung out with you fuckers. I
Speaker 6: don't know why you lineman go're the best? Then are
Speaker 6: the best, bro, no question man.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, uh, we come back.
Speaker 6: We're in camp and we come back from across the
Speaker 6: street and we got a couple of beers, right, and
Speaker 6: so there he's just getting ficty.
Speaker 3: Get on his door. So he came.
Speaker 6: We're banging on his freaking door, right, banging on his door,
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden he runs out and like
Speaker 6: freaking try, like jumps at me and tries to take.
Speaker 3: Me out and stuff like that. Right, crazy motherfucker.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he comes out of and freaking tries to you know,
Speaker 6: get his shot in, right, and then go back to
Speaker 6: the young The fucking door clowns closed.
Speaker 3: He has no key, underwear just in a skim piece.
Speaker 6: And you know, you go to go your key. I'm like,
Speaker 6: you go the key, I'm going my room right here,
Speaker 6: you go garal key. So you had to go all
Speaker 6: right down and get his another key, and then he.
Speaker 2: Comes out to get you and you're like, all right, off,
Speaker 2: you go back to your room and he goes, yes,
Speaker 2: yes there is underwear. Yeah, yeah, that's hilarious. Fucking small
Speaker 2: Italian man, just.
Speaker 3: Great he said, he a little like that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He wears his like peaky blinders, the what is it,
Speaker 1: the paper boy hat, newsboy hat. He wears that around
Speaker 1: the game on this.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a technical term, but I knew
Speaker 2: exactly what.
Speaker 1: You know, small Italians got the accent fucking o, motherfuck you.
Speaker 1: And he's got his little hat on and soud the
Speaker 1: gold chain absolutely has a cross on it. Yeah, one
Speaker 1: question about it.
Speaker 6: He's it's funny man, when he first came in and
Speaker 6: he's doing his special teams being like at the old
Speaker 6: one buck is Cramp, right, we had all our team
Speaker 6: meetings in our locker room, and so yeah, everybody's got
Speaker 6: to be on a special teams of special teams meeting,
Speaker 6: you know and stuff. I remember him talking with man.
Speaker 6: He is like just scared, nervous and everything just came
Speaker 6: out of Clemson or something like that. Right, Yeah, it
Speaker 6: was like Gruden and brought him in the league, right,
Speaker 6: hired him, And I get at him all time because
Speaker 6: he's all nervous and he's stuttering and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I said, you always getting on his ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh I cannot wait to have this as a
Speaker 1: clear hey, besides you, man, he said, But he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he said the same thing. Like we're talking about all
Speaker 1: the like off season stuff training, like how guys are now,
Speaker 1: like what they were like back then, what they're like now.
Speaker 1: He was like, dude, he's like he told you talking
Speaker 1: about Mike, like being there five thirty in the morning
Speaker 1: doing running back drills, then going in the weight room
Speaker 1: all before.
Speaker 2: The day starts.
Speaker 1: Jesus, and it's just so much different. So like, I
Speaker 1: sit here and it's like the same thing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: He seems like one of those like like badass old
Speaker 1: school dudes that you're kind of like, damn, we're kind
Speaker 1: of we're kind of soft in front of this man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, like a feeling you
Speaker 2: have you're like, man, am I worth it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you look down? You know I'm here right
Speaker 3: right here? Right? Do you?
Speaker 2: Are you worth it? In front of this man having
Speaker 2: a therapy session.
Speaker 3: It's a joke, it's a joke, but do you uh,
Speaker 3: maybe it's.
Speaker 2: Not looked down, but do you look down at at
Speaker 2: players the way we are now? You definitely been sitting
Speaker 2: in your living room before me like these fuckers.
Speaker 1: Are, So I think, what's I think what's interesting too,
Speaker 1: because you're you're a head coach, right, You're a Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a head coach. So you're like instilling a lot
Speaker 1: of values and trying to like tell guys what it
Speaker 1: really is. But obviously, like we're kind of our generation
Speaker 1: is more the example for them now and you're kind
Speaker 1: of trying to communicate with them in a good way.
Speaker 2: So I do think it's interesting, like how.
Speaker 6: To each his own this type of thing, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, you guys didn't you didn't create with the
Speaker 6: situations for you. So when I was, you know, coming up,
Speaker 6: you know that's the way the situation was, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean I can't blame yeah, but you know, you know,
Speaker 6: you feel like you just don't be that solid guy,
Speaker 6: you know?
Speaker 3: Yah? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's more like these guys need
Speaker 1: to appreciate like what they're actually getting to do more
Speaker 1: so than it is like, Hey, I I understand everything's
Speaker 1: a business, but fuck you guys are playing in the
Speaker 1: NFL and live in your dream like there's there's there's
Speaker 1: there has been.
Speaker 6: Uh since I retired and probably in the last five
Speaker 6: years or I'm like, are you kidding me? Bro? All right,
Speaker 6: you kidding me? You know, one situation I don't know,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And I'm like, I like,
Speaker 6: it's like, man, appreciate your figure out because you know
Speaker 6: it before you're over. Because I tried like a little
Speaker 6: baby when they told you I come put the pants
Speaker 6: downymore right, thirty four years old, I'm crying in my
Speaker 6: in my room, you know, like a little baby, and
Speaker 6: you you fuckers only want to shoot him play So.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's just like no, no, just
Speaker 2: just you know, to your ten.
Speaker 3: No, it's just some situations.
Speaker 6: Then you know it's nothing, you know, but again yeah no,
Speaker 6: we we we were uh you know, work hard, play
Speaker 6: hard type of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh That's what's nuts to me is because I'll you know,
Speaker 1: I'll hearing some stories and stuff like that and talk
Speaker 1: about how you know, you would have a few the
Speaker 1: night before and be able to do all this ship
Speaker 1: and it's just it blows my mind. Like the fucking
Speaker 1: type of animal that is. I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: love of aud it.
Speaker 5: Like the more the world evolves and there's so much
Speaker 5: more information given to us, we know more about like
Speaker 5: how to take care of our bodies. But on the
Speaker 5: other hand, like if we didn't know any better, we'd
Speaker 5: still be doing the same ship. We would drinking drinking
Speaker 5: beers whatever. And one thing twice about it, like we're
Speaker 5: sit here and go.
Speaker 1: Doing double days after fucking getting sauce when like going
Speaker 1: hard and fucking with passage at night or something like that.
Speaker 2: It's like that is wild of me, Like I couldn't
Speaker 2: even think about doing that shit. Some guy jumps at
Speaker 2: me in his underwear and the next day I'm just
Speaker 2: doing double days, like it might came up. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: it might came up.
Speaker 1: Hey, Taylor, you guys trying to you know, you guys
Speaker 1: trying to hit the bar, and it's like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be very practicing more. I can't function that way,
Speaker 1: so all right, pussy And then he comes on, so
Speaker 1: will be broken.
Speaker 3: Next you know.
Speaker 5: I asked me to come out with me, I said.
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, you're about to have a kid.
Speaker 5: Well I didn't even have your number, and this is
Speaker 5: like this is the first moment we've met.
Speaker 2: Right, we would have known you were there. I'm sure
Speaker 2: we had all been together and I didn't know you
Speaker 2: were there.
Speaker 5: We got out, went out and got pretty rowdy, and
Speaker 5: you know, as the game was in, I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: let's go out. Let's go as soon as you're gonna
Speaker 5: have a baby and you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 5: go out.
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh it's tough, it's hard. Hard.
Speaker 3: What do you say to that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I had been days drinking all day long,
Speaker 1: and I knew what it was like. I knew when
Speaker 1: we went out the fun the peak of the night
Speaker 1: was at Nissan Stadium for us. We were so rowdy,
Speaker 1: we were yelling. I was already losing my voice. Thank
Speaker 1: god I got it back for this pod. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I knew if I went out, we were gonna be
Speaker 1: saying there and it was gonna be like two am.
Speaker 3: And it's like, you don't have to explain, brother, you
Speaker 3: don't have to bro saying, man, I went home. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wanted to go home.
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Speaker 3: Oh? Man, bob, here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, what about talking about.
Speaker 6: All right, we got teaser, right, So it's an alternative stimulation, right,
Speaker 6: what do you you do?
Speaker 2: Used to dip?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: I like that closer?
Speaker 3: Oh my man? So green energy, So there's a.
Speaker 6: There's a different one. There's energy ones. So they're all
Speaker 6: herbs and supplements and stuff like that. There's CBD and
Speaker 6: I'm so it's basically an alternative dip, right and has
Speaker 6: all natural stuff. And again those dippers you know back
Speaker 6: in the day, you know there the stimulation is having
Speaker 6: something you lit and always fixation, right exactly, So we
Speaker 6: have a healthy dip, right.
Speaker 2: No nicotine notes, tobacco or no, he's gonna mess me up.
Speaker 3: I think it'd be all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about his threshold might be a little
Speaker 2: different than your as well. I think you'd be all right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So again, we won't we won't even we won't
Speaker 1: mention the competitor out there. We won't mention the competitor
Speaker 1: at all. But this is just like the healthiest alternative
Speaker 1: because everything everything is organic you want, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Everything is organic everything's healthy. Everything's uh, you know, green tea,
Speaker 6: you know, and herbs and vitamins and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: and then it throw.
Speaker 3: Some CBD in there.
Speaker 6: But there's there's different levels of it, right, Blue cans
Speaker 6: they're for more chilled, right, and then the green ones
Speaker 6: and the winter green and stuff like that they have
Speaker 6: a little bit more.
Speaker 3: You know, natural.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a dip.
Speaker 3: You don't need a spit though.
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, Hey, you know what I'm going
Speaker 2: to because fucking Mike Alstide doctor formulated so some of
Speaker 2: these have CBD in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me think here, none of these you have it.
Speaker 3: I'll get them. CBD is one of those things that
Speaker 3: I'll get to you. But don't understand. It's winter greens, CBS.
Speaker 2: One of those things.
Speaker 5: I really don't understand why the NFL isn't like, go ahead,
Speaker 5: go do it, like just try it, yeah, because.
Speaker 3: It's like everybody else has on there.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough
Speaker 2: about to say yes or no, but I do think
Speaker 2: that like, uh, hey.
Speaker 6: Don't don't you don't even chew on it, right, you
Speaker 6: don't explode your mouth and you'll be like, oh, what.
Speaker 2: Do I need to just put in?
Speaker 3: Just put in? How do you do it? Mike?
Speaker 2: I'll start.
Speaker 3: Due.
Speaker 2: Did you happen to when was your last year?
Speaker 3: What year was it? Seven?
Speaker 6: But I was yeah, surgery, Right, So we're getting back.
Speaker 6: You know how everything plays around with us. That's that's
Speaker 6: the world. You get to that you'll come familiar with,
Speaker 6: right topics, right, and then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 6: you'll you'll you'll remember it later, you know what I mean? Yes, right,
Speaker 6: but it's about you know, again, getting old and maybe
Speaker 6: a lot of head hitting, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So it come body, you bang that fucking head? I
Speaker 2: mean you highlights? Yeah for sure, but come.
Speaker 1: On, come on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did the shoulder agle. That's how I started
Speaker 5: get away from NFL. I'd probably put Mic on his
Speaker 5: fucking back. Yeah, this ship does this different stuff. Hold
Speaker 5: on one more thing about the pouch and I definitely
Speaker 5: want to get back to that.
Speaker 2: There's nothing in here's gonna like no no no no
Speaker 2: no no no no no no nothing, nothing you get
Speaker 2: out of it. Just the just the idea of being
Speaker 2: able to you know, you know, get those I'm.
Speaker 6: Trying to think of those bad thoughts of what tobacco
Speaker 6: does too, you know what I mean? Yeah, I got
Speaker 6: that simulation I've been used to, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, when when my when my dad would try
Speaker 1: to quit tobacco, he would put like raw oats in
Speaker 1: his mouth and his lips because there at that back
Speaker 1: then there wasn't an alternative.
Speaker 3: Obviously, now there are plus a healthy brother.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, I want to learn more about the
Speaker 7: product healthy brother, all right, but uh yeah yeah, besides.
Speaker 6: You with a king, man, you know, I'm I'm really uh,
Speaker 6: I'm sad for him. He tried like years and years
Speaker 6: and years to get that head job, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. I mean, even like college you want to
Speaker 6: you know, he wanted to be the guy that he
Speaker 6: was this year, right, and then I always just chocked.
Speaker 3: It didn't retain him maybe for another year and do
Speaker 3: what he did.
Speaker 6: And the circumstances he went through, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: the playoffs, Yeah, yeah, man, especially with the interim head
Speaker 6: coach like that obviously is rare.
Speaker 2: What just happened wherever he goes.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know what he got paid, right,
Speaker 6: but he got paid like handsomely to be just to
Speaker 6: go to the Packers right and be the special coach.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's that type of quality coach. You know,
Speaker 6: he always has that HC you know what I mean
Speaker 6: next to him, you know, I mean assistant head coach.
Speaker 6: You know, he's just he's just a great dude, man.
Speaker 6: I mean, you love him, bro.
Speaker 5: Everything will to me about him during the season when
Speaker 5: we were watching that Raiders Bengals playoff game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it means a lot coming for here my call start.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Just playing it up at this point. But no, dude,
Speaker 2: that's I've heard only good things about him. He seems
Speaker 2: like a dude.
Speaker 5: He was telling me, like the Raiders guys would be
Speaker 5: like he was really hard on dudes, but then we're
Speaker 5: just also like to keep the side and tell you
Speaker 5: how much you like you like after.
Speaker 1: It explain that because he'll mother fuck the shit out
Speaker 1: of you. But also like, you know, how personable he
Speaker 1: gets to I don't know because I try to explain
Speaker 1: it to people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you it's like, oh, he's fucking tough on you,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, you just know.
Speaker 6: And I think maybe he's one of the reasons my
Speaker 6: neck hurt because I think you he likes his white
Speaker 6: Russians and stuff. Man, and then you're at the freaking
Speaker 6: uh when we went a Super Bowl, we had a
Speaker 6: big old party and I think he must have had
Speaker 6: but you know, one hundred times at night boom.
Speaker 2: Really he said, he goes ask him who had the
Speaker 2: hardest head by him?
Speaker 3: Oh, he doesn't like sneaky, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like just.
Speaker 2: Sneak up on your head. But Mike, come down here
Speaker 2: real quick, Bofia.
Speaker 3: But yeah, good dude, man. Family is great. Sounds like
Speaker 3: you guys got some good good head coaches. Man, it's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean, I can't believe beside you
Speaker 2: didn't get a job.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for everything I think you yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's crazy too, right, Like he was a generation before
Speaker 1: us and he still got besides your stories and you
Speaker 1: still I'm not the only one saying all this stuff
Speaker 1: or the Raiders players, like you're talking about somebody who
Speaker 1: played for him in Tampa speaking the same way about him.
Speaker 2: Uh, did you ever leak into playing with Adam Hayward?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So Adam was my like like big brother.
Speaker 1: Mentor whenever he came to Washington, because he came to
Speaker 1: Washington he was like, hey, Colment, if you're gonna fucking
Speaker 1: make in this league, like, you got to know how
Speaker 1: to play special teams. So I was always saw at backer,
Speaker 1: but special teams have more of a learning curve because
Speaker 1: I ever played in college. And Adam was like a
Speaker 1: savage on special teams. Yeah, you got any wall stories
Speaker 1: because that's a crazy one.
Speaker 3: No, he was.
Speaker 6: He was a younger and if I did on remember Bro,
Speaker 6: I mean just just you know, great dude though, man,
Speaker 6: And and that's kind of like how it was like
Speaker 6: Shelton Corals are uh, middle linebacker when we want to
Speaker 6: Super Bowl No.
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well he was a special team guy for he
Speaker 6: was He was a special team guy for five years,
Speaker 6: you know. I mean, and he came from Canada. But
Speaker 6: new linebackers, you better make your way a special teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're not a superstar like you know on
Speaker 1: Tampa like Devin White or Levonte David, but you're on
Speaker 1: special teams playing everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: You guys get paid a lot too for special team girls,
Speaker 6: shipload of money.
Speaker 1: And compared relatively maybe the back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the special team you get paid now? I think
Speaker 1: it depends I think maybe the best guy to look
Speaker 1: at would be like Slater, right, who's played on Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a you're if you're someone who makes their hay
Speaker 1: on special teams and you're there, say you're a linebacker
Speaker 1: and you're going not to be a starter and you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a depth guy and you're just gonna play teams.
Speaker 2: You're looking at probably two to four year if you're
Speaker 2: if you're a stud coach, it's like this motherfucker he
Speaker 2: makes sixteen a year. Oh no, I'm mad at him too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nothing.
Speaker 2: You don't even know how to have this conversations, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, is that good?
Speaker 3: I'm actually asking like, like, what a million dollars in
Speaker 3: my last four years? But yeah, what what was it
Speaker 3: the last four years? I played for a million dollars? Whatever? Year? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Fucking nuts, bro, How the market has just gone up
Speaker 2: like crazy?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And you got you know him? But I'm not matter
Speaker 2: you guys, I don't know the difference is like when
Speaker 2: we were born. But that's like literally the only thing
Speaker 2: that is fucking different, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 5: Do you think when you're born you're playing right now?
Speaker 5: Like you're just was just born later than you. So
Speaker 5: I was like, the market's just gone up. But if
Speaker 5: you're playing now, imagine if you're in your sixth round.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it would be uh, I don't
Speaker 6: know if the game would would want my position me
Speaker 6: in that way.
Speaker 5: You actually not think that or like knowing what you're
Speaker 5: I disagree. Here's why I think running the ball is
Speaker 5: actually coming back. Titians are doing it. Where you see
Speaker 5: the way the Packers run it, you see the way
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers run it. Like it's not it's
Speaker 5: not power iow football anymore. It's like wide zone. But
Speaker 5: you still need that fullback. We had a guy, Tory
Speaker 5: Carter forty four, who's like young, was a rookie this
Speaker 5: past year. He's got your type of vibe, work hard,
Speaker 5: play hard type dude and gets the fuck after cats
Speaker 5: tries to end dudes. Yeah, and I think he's I
Speaker 5: think that is actually making a turnaround. Like five, six,
Speaker 5: seven years ago, it was you're throwing fifty times a game.
Speaker 5: There's no reason to have a fullback. There's really no
Speaker 5: reason to have more than three tight ends.
Speaker 2: On a team. You're in eleven personnel the whole time.
Speaker 5: And now it's really become the teams that are having
Speaker 5: a lot of success on offense, you see a good
Speaker 5: balance of running the ball and passing the ball. I
Speaker 5: think that's transitioning back. So I do think if you
Speaker 5: were playing right now, there'd be a big commodity for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you got to study behind you? Huh?
Speaker 2: Was that?
Speaker 3: Oh Derek.
Speaker 2: Rolling ball? Butcher knives what he is.
Speaker 5: It's wild too well, the way he runs because he's
Speaker 5: so big and strong that dudes take bad angles on him,
Speaker 5: and he's fast as ship and then guys are story
Speaker 5: about getting run over.
Speaker 2: He just gives him that little bank n real.
Speaker 3: No, it's it is.
Speaker 6: It's amazing being the size he is speed, and then
Speaker 6: you know, you do the things.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: It's wild, like when you're because everyone's living their own movie, right,
Speaker 5: So like when you got in the NFL, you're like
Speaker 5: it's a Mike Alstott world and you're kind of like
Speaker 5: doing your own thing and trying to figure out your legacy.
Speaker 5: And Derek's the only person And while I have like
Speaker 5: these goggles out of like how am I gonna how's
Speaker 5: my legacy gonna?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 5: He's the only person I've seen being like, Wow, it's
Speaker 5: fucking cool to like watch somebody and be able to
Speaker 5: call them a teammate because you know, like how great
Speaker 5: they're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Derek's that dude.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 5: He's a dude that when it's all said and done,
Speaker 5: he's gonna be the best, easily the best running back
Speaker 5: in Titan's history, Titan's Oiler's history.
Speaker 6: And then I think, you know, he's gonna, yeah, he's gonna,
Speaker 6: he's gonna get it.
Speaker 5: Yeah that if he didn't get hurt this year and listen,
Speaker 5: this is gonna Vrabel's gonna murder me for this. And
Speaker 5: that's where he pauses the tape and goes, well, then
Speaker 5: you shouldn't have said it, and now we're unpositive to say,
Speaker 5: so he doesn't have to pause the tape anymore. Hey,
Speaker 5: but that dude, if he didn't get hurt last year,
Speaker 5: I really, I mean, he would have murdered that record.
Speaker 5: I believe that, per I believe that in my heart
Speaker 5: because he was on a roll. So and the dude's
Speaker 5: work ethic is crazy here.
Speaker 6: Oh it's yeah, that's that's that's that's music to my
Speaker 6: ears because it's like good, you know you see these
Speaker 6: guys and and blah blah.
Speaker 3: But you know he puts it in.
Speaker 2: Oh, he puts it in.
Speaker 5: Then some I'm like, if Derek rushes for like one
Speaker 5: hundred and ten yards, he won't talk to anybody for
Speaker 5: a week because he's fucking pissed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll rush for sixty in the first half.
Speaker 3: I just hitching him back of the head. Yeah, your fault,
Speaker 3: no fucking down.
Speaker 5: Oh dude, all missed the block and uh you'll get
Speaker 5: tap on the back and he'll cut me in like, Hey,
Speaker 5: what happened?
Speaker 3: What do you for Christmas? This year? Oh? Come on,
Speaker 3: you can't remember?
Speaker 2: No, I remember because you heard this year. But the
Speaker 2: year before they got his role axes. That's a nice little.
Speaker 3: Dates out there right now. And I wears that Rolex.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's a pretty watch watch.
Speaker 2: Did you ever buy your oline and guests for Christmas?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we did different stuff, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: TVs or whatnot, you know what I mean? Remember, And
Speaker 6: I didn't know, I can't you know, I didn't have
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 3: You know that? H Yeah, I took care of him.
Speaker 3: I was more like swung, hang out, have some pops,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: You know I mean yeah, and when Canillac rushed for
Speaker 6: I was ye, dirty right, and uh he brought us
Speaker 6: some nice watches to some.
Speaker 2: Remove the watch thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 5: I told him, I was like, you, when you get
Speaker 5: that record, we need some teslas. He's laughed at me
Speaker 5: and walked away, and I was like, I think that
Speaker 5: has a hard maybe you know, right, But Derek, he's awesome.
Speaker 2: Man, He's cool. He's like, uh, he's just different.
Speaker 5: And it's well, you know how like everybody nowadays a
Speaker 5: social media everyone says, you know, God's choice, this guy's different.
Speaker 2: There's just legit a different.
Speaker 3: Dude, right, Yeah, you can see it. You can see it.
Speaker 5: And now, like I think with all the instant gratification,
Speaker 5: if you have a good game, when you were playing,
Speaker 5: it wasn't like worldwide news.
Speaker 2: It was like, hey, you got a good game. Let's
Speaker 2: keep moving forward.
Speaker 5: Now guys have one good game, it's all over ESPN,
Speaker 5: it's all over social media, all this move and with
Speaker 5: Derek it's just he just doesn't doesn't seem to phase him.
Speaker 5: Like he's got the talent and the instant gratification, but
Speaker 5: his workout think it is stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 6: That's what people behind the scenes appreciate, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean? Yeah, I mean they see him and they
Speaker 6: talk about that, you know what I mean, like you
Speaker 6: are and stuff like that. But stupid crazy he's uh,
Speaker 6: he's got a good one man.
Speaker 2: So you actually think, like you, with your skill set,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have been somebody that was valuable in this
Speaker 2: league today.
Speaker 3: I'm not the way I see the offense is being played. No,
Speaker 3: I mean, like if you.
Speaker 6: Man, you know, you bring out some bad situation. I
Speaker 6: was forty yards from breaking how many people?
Speaker 2: And this is how dare you bring this up? Well?
Speaker 6: Yeah, seventy and ninety nine, like thirty or forty yards
Speaker 6: away from right, But because I look at it, like, man,
Speaker 6: how many people has ever broken a thousand yards in
Speaker 6: the NFL?
Speaker 3: Right? I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean it can be worth a google right there, right,
Speaker 6: But the thing is, uh, you know it's so close.
Speaker 6: But you know we got, uh we at rings and
Speaker 6: everything made.
Speaker 3: Up for it.
Speaker 1: You So, yeah, I mean you see offenses like what
Speaker 1: the Titans have and everything else, it's like, obviously I
Speaker 1: think your value would still ye.
Speaker 6: Taking harpy, Yeah, we're taking harpy, no question. I don't
Speaker 6: know about that you got to ask them the other
Speaker 6: guy Tori, No, your boss maybe right.
Speaker 2: John, or that's our GM No, Listen, I think I
Speaker 2: mean also.
Speaker 5: Wants to play probably be like yeah, a guy like
Speaker 5: that who's gonna go and roll over dues?
Speaker 3: I mean that.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, we've all seen the goddamn highlight tape.
Speaker 3: So going going back.
Speaker 5: Literally there's literally like, uh, you can have all the
Speaker 5: town in the world, but you're the intangible. You're just
Speaker 5: willing to put your face on somebody and end them,
Speaker 5: and so there's really like there's no supplement for that,
Speaker 5: like you're gonna make in the league listen, fucking end them,
Speaker 5: like if not play special teams and that dude, and
Speaker 5: then you dudes looking at hey, we gotta double this guy,
Speaker 5: pick one and him.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's the beauty was of our team though,
Speaker 3: is like.
Speaker 6: Everybody knew the role. Yeah right, nobody trying to get
Speaker 6: outside there. They're cylinder of their responsibility of of of
Speaker 6: that team, you know what I mean, And everybody upped
Speaker 6: them a shut and we stuck.
Speaker 3: It was truly, it was amazing. It really was amazing
Speaker 3: in our locker room and how type you were a.
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Speaker 6: So but when I when I got hurt finished in
Speaker 6: that story, I got hurt in three and I had
Speaker 6: a fusion, right, So I did go back to the
Speaker 6: maroon and get the fusion and a fuse six and seven.
Speaker 3: Then I came back and played.
Speaker 6: So four, five, six, and I was going in the
Speaker 6: seventh training camp, and I knew it happened eventually, just
Speaker 6: didn't win again. You know, I her needed C three,
Speaker 6: C four, I believe, and that's what that's what name stop.
Speaker 6: But again you know again what a great game.
Speaker 3: You know this thing is?
Speaker 6: Uh, you guys are fortunate, bro, And you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. It's pretty cool, man, You know what? Take
Speaker 6: it for everything?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I know, man, it is crazy like we've we've we've
Speaker 1: all gotten to play, yeah, at the highest level, right,
Speaker 1: football like a game you like you're in the front yard.
Speaker 6: And football, Bro, there's so many guys and those kids,
Speaker 6: they're like, I'm like, what's your list of schools right,
Speaker 6: m that you get me to contact whatever? And it's
Speaker 6: like I just gave me ten or fifteen and you
Speaker 6: look at the list and like kidding me. Yeah, right,
Speaker 6: you're again you're this level guy.
Speaker 3: So you know what I mean, we are that guy.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know that thing? Why
Speaker 3: of people take it?
Speaker 6: When I got hurt, that's when I really opened my
Speaker 6: eyes and said, you know, I can't take this for granted, right,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? And I wasn't taking it
Speaker 6: for granted, but you just didn't understand when it's gone,
Speaker 6: it's gone, you know what I mean? And I was,
Speaker 6: you know, I was insane in my my ways though
Speaker 6: that I I would have played forever. But some people
Speaker 6: aren't like that kind of like, oh boy, that just
Speaker 6: retired from the Bucks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the guard. Yeah he saw pro Whitney or
Speaker 2: a pro bowler.
Speaker 3: You just said to see you later. Seven. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I haven't heard it seven years.
Speaker 2: It's not a bo Aaron Donald retiring too. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he is.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I mean this rumors or whatever is that he that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like McVeigh, Like Mcveigh's coming back.
Speaker 2: Apparently Mcveag's come back.
Speaker 5: He's gonna come back then, Yeah, yeah, you'd be like
Speaker 5: Andrew Whitworth, you know, the left tackle for the Rams.
Speaker 5: He celebrated his fourieth birthday in the December, then won
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl after winning Walter paint Men and the
Speaker 5: he was, holy.
Speaker 3: Smokes, that was an unbelievable speech.
Speaker 2: Huh oh my god, did dude?
Speaker 6: I mean it was like giving me goosebumps. She's like,
Speaker 6: whoa bro? Yeah, he's well spoken, man, he is.
Speaker 2: He's an incredible person too.
Speaker 5: Like the first time I met Andrew was at the
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl and I like brought like my family out
Speaker 5: and I was like, let's go dinner on me. And
Speaker 5: there was this nice restaurant connect at the hotel where
Speaker 5: I went kind of stopped in, shook my hand, said hello,
Speaker 5: and I had like ten fifteen people with me and
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, everyone get whatever you want, like
Speaker 5: it's on me, blah blah blah. Well the check comes
Speaker 5: and they go, oh, mister Whitworth took care of it
Speaker 5: for you. And I was like, he just walked up
Speaker 5: to me and said take congress in your first Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5: I was like, fuck, how cool is that?
Speaker 3: Oh? That was really cool? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Cool, it was like him.
Speaker 3: It was him.
Speaker 5: Uh in year ten, I think Joe Thomas and You're
Speaker 5: nine and me and I was like a kid and
Speaker 5: Kenny Flud. These are the dudes. These are the two
Speaker 5: guys like you look up to and watch and it
Speaker 5: was just awesome to be a part of that. First
Speaker 5: one was a cool one.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. Man. Yeah, yeah, Hawaii's cool.
Speaker 2: We didn't do they did in Orlando.
Speaker 3: Oh man, you didn't get to do o no, no, no.
Speaker 5: The first one I made was the year they stopped
Speaker 5: doing Hawaii. Man, Hawaii was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Hawaii's yeah, Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I mean what kind of what kind of like events
Speaker 2: and set ups at the half of you guys just
Speaker 2: like kind of do what you want.
Speaker 3: So everything's right.
Speaker 6: On on uh Elani Hotel campus and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: and it's kind of off the strip and in northern
Speaker 6: part I think of Aaron had a big old lagoon
Speaker 6: and everything like that, and it's just we.
Speaker 3: Took over the whole thing in the NFL took it
Speaker 3: all over, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean that's also they had practice fields out there.
Speaker 6: They're so secluded and stuff like that. And it has
Speaker 6: his own private beach for you know, families that take
Speaker 6: little ones too and stuff like that. Whatnot right where
Speaker 6: they had the pool and here's a guys's drinking at
Speaker 6: the pool, bars, people on the beach.
Speaker 3: You know, just everybody was everywhere was there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, having all over one under one roof the best.
Speaker 5: Because then you get these guys who you played against
Speaker 5: are dudes that you look up to, or guys at
Speaker 5: your position.
Speaker 6: Like Orlando, right, Yeah, like everybody stayed at the resort.
Speaker 6: You know, I'll tell you this and you guys, you
Speaker 6: guys being in Orlando. Oh, let's go see Mickey, Let's
Speaker 6: go see many you know, and you're going to Disney World, right.
Speaker 5: It was a cool experience from the standpoint that the
Speaker 5: everyone was under the same hotel, which is really cool.
Speaker 5: So and there was like kind of one bar, so
Speaker 5: at night we were all at the same bar drinking,
Speaker 5: having a good time. You have to meet a lot
Speaker 5: of guys and kind of make relationships. But they like
Speaker 5: Universal Studios, they'd shut down Universal Studios for at night,
Speaker 5: and so it's just you and the families and no
Speaker 5: waiting in lines, nothing like that. And they had they had,
Speaker 5: they did a really good job.
Speaker 1: They could have opened up more roller coasters, to be honest,
Speaker 1: because he like took me as part of his crew
Speaker 1: and stuff, and we were out there like, oh dang,
Speaker 1: it's all opened up Universal Studios instead of the stuff
Speaker 1: they kind of shut it off. It's like, well, anythings
Speaker 1: for bringing me Taylor, this is great man, that's cool.
Speaker 5: That's that's a great story about Uh oh dude, he's
Speaker 5: he's Since that day, I like, I've just admired him.
Speaker 5: I liked him before and I was a fan of his.
Speaker 5: I have admired the guy, what he does in the community,
Speaker 5: the way he handles himself. Sixteen seventeen. I think he's
Speaker 5: a little older. He played, Uh he was like a
Speaker 5: fifth year senior and he got drafted. I think he's
Speaker 5: draft in the second round. Played the Bengals for eleven years,
Speaker 5: and then played at the Rams for six I had
Speaker 5: two different lives.
Speaker 3: What's this story? Like? Are you going to continue? Where
Speaker 3: is he? I think he's.
Speaker 2: Anything yet, but I think he's he's done. Like, why
Speaker 2: we go out on a super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Forty years he was in a Super Bowl and Walter
Speaker 2: Payton May of the Year.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's no.
Speaker 2: Last year.
Speaker 5: Everyone thought he was going to retire then and he
Speaker 5: comes back. He just plays and you know what, dude,
Speaker 5: he played well. It's not like he was like a liability.
Speaker 5: He's played fucking good all year long.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Dude's played two hundred and thirty nine games,
Speaker 1: started to thirty five of them.
Speaker 2: I mean that's incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. Uh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Do you guys got anything you know? I know we
Speaker 1: gotta we could probably gotta wrap up.
Speaker 2: Yeah here soon. What do you guys got from my uh.
Speaker 3: Seeing the game as softer today. Who are some guys
Speaker 3: that you do like though? How they work out there?
Speaker 3: Now you're putting me on a spot. I don't follow
Speaker 3: that much.
Speaker 1: Are there any fullbacks that you look at that feel
Speaker 1: like are kind of like a style you like? I know,
Speaker 1: they're kind of seemed like a dying breed.
Speaker 6: But you know, the kids from San Francisco, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, still keep me going a little bit,
Speaker 6: you know, with the athleticism and stuff, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, and and get involved in the game.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's just I don't I don't follow
Speaker 3: too much anymore. I don't think. I think. Man, That's
Speaker 3: how it was growing up too. Man. I was in
Speaker 3: my own world, you know what I mean. When I
Speaker 3: was in high.
Speaker 6: School, it was all about high school football. I didn't
Speaker 6: I didn't know anything about college or anything like that. Again,
Speaker 6: you gotta understand that. I thank god there wasn't cell
Speaker 6: phones back then, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: it gets you shit in trouble, right.
Speaker 2: No question.
Speaker 5: We talked the other day about if there was Twitter
Speaker 5: when we were twelve, were canceled right?
Speaker 6: Games over for I said, that and then, don't get
Speaker 6: me wrong, I wasn't it, you know. But at the
Speaker 6: same time as we got after it a little bit,
Speaker 6: you boundary.
Speaker 2: Film and the way people can take it out of content.
Speaker 6: Big time, and that's that's that's our world. Everything's out
Speaker 6: of content. But anyway, it's like, you know, I had
Speaker 6: some you know, probably that kid they were talking about.
Speaker 6: You know, you watch you know, just you know, big,
Speaker 6: bigger type of backs, you know, like your guys. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was kind of similar that way too. I've never
Speaker 2: watched football growing up at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then now I only watch it because I.
Speaker 6: Play it, yeah, or because they paid sixteen million dollars
Speaker 6: to do it. Yeah, I probably should watch some film. Yeah,
Speaker 6: make sure I can keep that job. It's a nice deal.
Speaker 6: It might be a good this is just keep that
Speaker 6: thing alive.
Speaker 3: You like, who were some guys matchup wise that you
Speaker 3: would go against.
Speaker 2: Going into the week and get it.
Speaker 6: I don't get I don't get hyped. I never got hyped.
Speaker 6: And I got to the stadium five hours for the game.
Speaker 6: I went outside and played the goal post game and
Speaker 6: do all that stuff. Stretched a little bit, you know,
Speaker 6: just sit out there and just I knew all the
Speaker 6: video guys from every stadium. I new mall you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, and stuff like that because I was
Speaker 6: out there with them when they were going to test
Speaker 6: one two one two and ship you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean. Yeah, and you know, all right, I'm
Speaker 3: worried about me. Per se.
Speaker 2: Did you ever talk shit? No? You shit talker? No,
Speaker 2: like Ray Lewis or nobody. So you just hid somebody,
Speaker 2: they say, somebody and just walk back to huddle.
Speaker 3: No, you just say hey, what's up? All stop and
Speaker 3: pay me an ass or something, say what's up?
Speaker 5: And so if I were to talk shit to somebody
Speaker 5: and they would just turn around walk away, like God, damn,
Speaker 5: that man's a psychopath.
Speaker 1: You can't get in his head, Mike. He had the
Speaker 1: neckro he probably had the hip pass that went the
Speaker 1: belt with white belt and went through the hip pad.
Speaker 3: But it's like, yeah, I know, so.
Speaker 6: You know, played against uh ear locker two years, two
Speaker 6: times a year, you know, played against you know, I
Speaker 6: played a lot like him. This was it was it
Speaker 6: was good, man, it was good. It was like you know,
Speaker 6: you just couldn't know how to It's like anything else.
Speaker 6: It's like playing in the same league playing you know,
Speaker 6: you know exactly how that and that defensive end is
Speaker 6: gonna be you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it's uh, it's a good deal. Brother.
Speaker 1: Hard to say you took anybody, anybody that you any
Speaker 1: player you think about, you like, he kind of rolled
Speaker 1: my belt a little bit there.
Speaker 2: Obviously you don't tell him.
Speaker 6: But there's a my rookie year when I was in
Speaker 6: uh my rookiear were in orange and white, right, and
Speaker 6: so it was just a guy named Ron Cox, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a defail. He was a linebacker for
Speaker 6: Chicago and you like to leave with his head a lot,
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, so we head and oh you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. Yeah, I didn't remember the next
Speaker 6: play I had asked. That's awesome. And I love that
Speaker 6: he's like, what was his name, you said, Ryan Cox? No,
Speaker 6: Ron Cox, ron Cox.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: It's not people probably ray Lewis.
Speaker 3: This is this. He's like, nah, the.
Speaker 2: Rookie year, this dude named Ron Cox.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
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Speaker 2: It still good human being? All right, we can you
Speaker 2: know we can right now? Probably not no, I'm probably on.
Speaker 3: The for you're a four A guy like, yes, what's that? Yes?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 2: I ran four six five mm or six four?
Speaker 3: Build it?
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna actually then could you squat back
Speaker 1: in the day mostly put on your back?
Speaker 3: What a meaning? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What it does like that six seventy five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, it was that's.
Speaker 6: And I'm learning this now, right, I'm learning this now
Speaker 6: because I'm the more the better uh huh type of guy. Right,
Speaker 6: the more the better, uh, the more you're tired, you know, right.
Speaker 6: I mean that's how we That's how we that's how
Speaker 6: we trained, you know. I mean it was just like
Speaker 6: old school. But again all that the scientific way of
Speaker 6: you know, uh, more is not better, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean? Right, And and so again with the whole
Speaker 6: palle metrics and all that stuff you guys do, like
Speaker 6: you said, you know what you're going to speed and condition, right,
Speaker 6: I mean that that was not heard of, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. When we were working out, I mean,
Speaker 6: I mean we did some lighters and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But you know, again, you really emphasize a workout for
Speaker 6: you know, what you're doing in the matility and stuff
Speaker 6: like that corporated ours.
Speaker 3: And you know, in some sessions, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, the harder it was, the more
Speaker 2: you guys felt like you were probably doing something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how hard is it?
Speaker 4: Coaching like the way you play and then coaching high
Speaker 4: school football?
Speaker 3: Now, I throw the ship out of the ball, what's that?
Speaker 3: I throw the ball a lot?
Speaker 2: Really do you really I would not. I guess that.
Speaker 3: Neither.
Speaker 6: No, but my sound about quarterback, so I kind of
Speaker 6: got that. But no, we were we were inside outside
Speaker 6: the zone team. We'll do power game and and stuff
Speaker 6: and counter game. But you know, I like the no
Speaker 6: where we're no huddle, all signs and everything, get on
Speaker 6: the field, let's go and go after it.
Speaker 2: So very progressive to highly conditioned team. Highly conditioned team.
Speaker 3: Uh sometimes yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: But that's what we ran a mission in the first
Speaker 2: two years. Kind of just get used to it.
Speaker 3: Look over card, get down right right you guys. You
Speaker 3: the clap we do? We don't do the clap?
Speaker 5: No, no, I see I've not never did the clap.
Speaker 5: But I always wonder to like, how do people hear
Speaker 5: that when they're away? How do you possibly hear clapping noise?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying to get off the ball? Yeah, no,
Speaker 5: I'm masking.
Speaker 9: Somebody else can tell us. I've never played it now
Speaker 9: yeah no, yeah, I'm always let's go hot. Yeah, so
Speaker 9: but uh, pleasure, dude. Yeah, this was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Things went Oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I when somebody was like, hey, would you guys want
Speaker 1: Mike all start. I was like, yeah, yeah, we fucking
Speaker 1: want him.
Speaker 2: Yeah people lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah you had to hit him out because he
Speaker 1: goes is he and Nashville and go, yeah, man, he's
Speaker 1: about to come on the bus because I was asking like, hey,
Speaker 1: you got any stories for me? This and that, and uh,
Speaker 1: he's like, so he's in Nashville. He's like, he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be used to play. He was supposed to tell me.
Speaker 1: I know, I got I told he said, hey, come
Speaker 1: to the bus if you're in town, because all we're
Speaker 1: at Indie, we're at the combine, so you probably would
Speaker 1: have saw him.
Speaker 2: Aywae, that's what you gotta tell him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew you.
Speaker 2: I knew he was in Indy in India, right, yeah, India.
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