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Speaker 1: the Nick led the Mavericks by nine points with half

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Speaker 1: a minute left, um first time in something like thirteen

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Speaker 1: thousand tries in NBA history that someone came back to

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Speaker 1: to win that game and he missed it. So that

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Speaker 1: was your other time that it almost happened earlier this season. UM,

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Speaker 1: classic things you see in in big collapses, like there

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Speaker 1: UM that Luke end up winning the jump ball. And

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Speaker 1: then just some bad Knicks defense, like they conceded an

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Speaker 1: easy post up to Luca don Chich in the final

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Speaker 1: they just let Christian and would take a wide open

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Speaker 1: and one the crazy putback, not the put back after

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Speaker 1: little details. If you're up nine with thirty seconds left,

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Speaker 1: then he can methodically work down to either a mid

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Speaker 1: points per pos session, which is best in the league

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Speaker 1: among players who have passed out of the post at

433
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Speaker 1: least fifty times this year. When he passes out of ISO,

434
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Speaker 1: the Pelicans score one point zero six points per possession,

435
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Speaker 1: which is third best in the league among players who

436
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Speaker 1: have done it at least fifty times, behind Janice and

437
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Speaker 1: Joel Embiid. So, like, it's not surgical, you know, it's

438
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Speaker 1: not Luca, it's not Lebron, it's not Chris Paul, it's

439
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Speaker 1: not Nickela Yokich. But because of the amount of gravity

440
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Speaker 1: he has towards the rim, he is creating shots with

441
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Speaker 1: the past at an extremely high level, arguably in the

442
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Speaker 1: top tier of players in the league when you're looking

443
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Speaker 1: at post ups and ISOs um So, detractors are gonna

444
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Speaker 1: still point it like his defensive limitations, which there's some

445
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Speaker 1: legitimacy there, Like, yes, he's better than he has been.

446
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Speaker 1: He's he's more of a defensive playmaker now than he

447
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Speaker 1: used to be. Kind of like that steel, like the

448
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: steel for the dunk. That's defensive playmaking. That's not the

449
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Speaker 1: same as like being consistently good on the defensive end

450
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Speaker 1: on a possession by possession basis. But he's adding defensive playmaking,

451
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Speaker 1: which is good. But detractors are gonna point to the

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Speaker 1: defensive end, and they're also going to point to the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's missed eight games, which will hurt him

454
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Speaker 1: in the in the m v P case, but he

455
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Speaker 1: unquestionably has a case. And most importantly, you know, you

456
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Speaker 1: gotta look at um where we are in this field

457
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Speaker 1: right now. All the top eight teams are four games apart.

458
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Speaker 1: It might stay jumbled all year, but somebody might pull away,

459
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Speaker 1: and if somebody pulls away from that group, that guy

460
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Speaker 1: is gonna end up getting the m v P. Even

461
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Speaker 1: like he would. I would be really hard for me

462
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Speaker 1: to vote for Zion, just because you guys know my criteria,

463
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Speaker 1: Like you've got to be in the conversation for best

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Speaker 1: player in the world, and I don't think Zion is

465
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Speaker 1: UM And then you know, obviously the defensive end of

466
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Speaker 1: factor is going to factor in significantly for me. So

467
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Speaker 1: just me. But that's just me that wouldn't necessarily vote

468
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Speaker 1: for him based on my criteria. Everyone's got different criteria.

469
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Speaker 1: The voting pool loves new young players. I wouldn't be

470
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Speaker 1: surprised at all um if Zion ended up getting some

471
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Speaker 1: MVP votes, especially if the Pelicans end up pulling away

472
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Speaker 1: from the field last on Anthony Edwards. He's really picking

473
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Speaker 1: up steam over the course of the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's great last night. He's averaging twenty nine points,

475
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Speaker 1: seven rebounds, and six assists in his last six games,

476
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Speaker 1: really benefiting benefiting from the spacing provided from those lineups.

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Speaker 1: With Nazrid at center shooting fifty from the field from

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Speaker 1: three and seventy from the line. We're not gonna do

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into and today. I'm gonna save that

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Speaker 1: for some other time, but I did want to give

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Speaker 1: him a quick shout out. Looking to get more out

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Speaker 1: impressive come from behind win against the Jazz last night

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Speaker 1: for their third straight win, UH, finishing up at one

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Speaker 1: twelve one oh seven at home against Utah. Um. What

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do because there's a couple of specific UH

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Speaker 1: things that I want to talk about it with specific players,

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Speaker 1: But I think the easiest way for me to do

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Speaker 1: that is to go through the comeback on a play

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Speaker 1: by play type of basis, kind of dive into each

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Speaker 1: guy as we go along. So we're gonna zoom in

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Speaker 1: on the Warriors trailing one oh one to nine seven

512
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. So Jonathan com agaends up making

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Speaker 1: a great rotation on Jared Vanderbilt at the rim and

514
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Speaker 1: forces to stop the Warriors run out and UH Anthony

515
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Speaker 1: Lamb leads the break, drops it off to tie Jerome.

516
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Speaker 1: He makes a couple of shot fakes and makes a layup,

517
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Speaker 1: and then on the other end Lori Markt and Mrs

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Speaker 1: the Three, they go to Jonathan Comina on the post

519
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Speaker 1: on the right block and he ends up drawing a

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Speaker 1: foul on a post up and making both free throws

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Speaker 1: to tie the game at one oh one. So, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Jonathan Comina has been a nice little release

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Speaker 1: valve over the course of the last few games, particularly

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Speaker 1: in the post for a team that's needed shot creation

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Speaker 1: obviously with Steph Curry being out UM, which is exciting

526
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Speaker 1: obviously for his individual development, but most importantly, they just

527
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Speaker 1: need options right now as they're trying to float this

528
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Speaker 1: particular stretch. And Uh, Jonathan cominga scored on a post

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Speaker 1: up to the tune of two points in each of

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Speaker 1: the last three games, so UH, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he had done a scored out of the post at

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Speaker 1: all in the previous five or six games overall in

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Speaker 1: the season. UM, with his recent success, he's elevated himself

534
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Speaker 1: to thirty one points on thirty four post ups total,

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Speaker 1: which is zero point nine one points per possession, which

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Speaker 1: really is not mad for a player his age, especially

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Speaker 1: since you have to factor in that that's been much

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Speaker 1: better as of late. Um. So it was one o one,

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Speaker 1: one on one and Jordan Clarkson runs a pick and

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Speaker 1: roll with Jared Vanderbilt and Kevin Luney comes up. Come on,

541
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Speaker 1: Luny comes up to the level of the screen, so

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Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt ends up getting behind him on the roll

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Speaker 1: to the basket and tie. Jerome is in the week

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Speaker 1: side corner, and because Luney is up at the level

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Speaker 1: of the screen, Jared Vanderbilt is rolling behind the looney

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Speaker 1: to the rim. And what Jerome does is he fakes

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Speaker 1: like he's going to tag the roller and then comes

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Speaker 1: out back to the shooter, and it completely fools D'Angelo Russell.

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00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: He throws the skip pass to the corner and Jerome

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Speaker 1: just picks it off, takes it down the length of

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Speaker 1: the floor and shoots a transition pull up three sticks

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Speaker 1: it to put them up one oh four to one

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Speaker 1: oh one. I thought it was the play of the

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Speaker 1: game last night. That kind of changed the momentum. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it was a tie game at that point, but that

556
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Speaker 1: was the play that really you can tell the crowd

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Speaker 1: is in it at that point, and you could tell

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Speaker 1: that the team really believed they could win in at

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Speaker 1: that point. Um. After that really nice game against the

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Speaker 1: Grizzlies the other night, ty Jerome followed that up last night.

561
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Speaker 1: Was seventeen points on fifty percent shooting and he grabs

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Speaker 1: seven rebounds. Um, he's playing some good ball again. They

563
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Speaker 1: just needed some ball handling and ty Jerome stepped up.

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Speaker 1: He's plus twenty seven in his minutes during this three

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Speaker 1: game winning streaks. So it's one O four, one oh one.

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Speaker 1: Lori markt and misses a wide open corner three. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors go down and Dante DiVincenzo runs pick and

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Speaker 1: roll with Kevan Luney Kelly Oh because Kelly Olynnic is

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Speaker 1: guarding uh, Kevon Looney and he's in drops so he's

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Speaker 1: way back. Lori Marken in his guarding Dante DiVincenzo on

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Speaker 1: the ball and he goes under the screen. Dante de

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Speaker 1: Vincenzo just dribbles over the top of the screen and

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Speaker 1: just sticks a pull up three. He's had three seventeen

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Speaker 1: plus point games since the Steph Curry injury. Again, like

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Speaker 1: I said, before we tied Jerome, they needed somebody to

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Speaker 1: step up on offense, and those two guys in particular,

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Speaker 1: Dante and Ty have done some really nice work during

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Speaker 1: this uh stretch without staff. So it's one of seven

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Speaker 1: to one oh one at that point, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: fast forward a few possessions. Now it's one oh seven

581
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Speaker 1: to one oh three with two and a half minutes left.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Conley runs a staggered pick and roll with

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Speaker 1: a guard at the front and then a big at

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Speaker 1: the end, and uh, Jordan Pool and Dante DiVincenzo switched

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Speaker 1: the first screen, but right as he's about to go

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Speaker 1: off the second screen, Mike condly rejects it and just

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Speaker 1: completely dust everybody. Now he's heading downhill. So he's going

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Speaker 1: downhill with uh Jared Vanderbilt coming out of the dunker

589
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Speaker 1: spot two on one with only Draymond Green there, and

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green steps up, forces Mike Conley to throw the

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Speaker 1: drop off pass. Then Draymond turns and just on a

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Speaker 1: drop step, rises up and blocks Jared Vanderbilt at the rim.

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Speaker 1: Then they go down the other end and the Warriors

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Speaker 1: missed a couple of shots at the rim. They missed

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Speaker 1: a couple offensive rebound putbacks. I think uh, Jordan Pool

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Speaker 1: missed like a floater, and then Draymond missed to put back,

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Speaker 1: and then Jonathan Comingo miss to put back. Um then

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Speaker 1: uh the uh Lori Marketing and Kelly Olynnok run a

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Speaker 1: pick and roll on the other end of the floor

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Speaker 1: and Cominga and tie Jerome switch Rome switches out onto

601
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Speaker 1: market and Marketing just quick spins like a really nasty

602
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Speaker 1: spin move to get downhill again. Dust everybody, and he's

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Speaker 1: just going right down towards the rim. All there is

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Speaker 1: is Draymond Green and Jared Vanderbilt in the dunker spot,

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Speaker 1: except for this time. Lori Marketing is scared to throw

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Speaker 1: the drop off past because he just saw Draymond he

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Speaker 1: raced that shot at the rim, so instead he tries

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Speaker 1: to score over Draymond. Draymond contests it, beautifully, forces him

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Speaker 1: to double pump, and he misses the layout again. It

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Speaker 1: was one oh seven to one oh three. Those two

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Speaker 1: on one downhill pick and roll possessions are a bucket

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Speaker 1: for every single other defensive player in the league except

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Speaker 1: for maybe three or four. It's like, it's like Rudy Gobert,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Johanna Antenna Coompo, and Draymond Green. That would

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Speaker 1: have tied the game those two possessions, but Draymond just

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Speaker 1: erased those possessions um with just ridiculous defensive plays around

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Speaker 1: the rim. A couple of possessions later, Jordan Clarkson hits

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Speaker 1: a super tough step back three, so it's one or

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Speaker 1: seven to one oh six. Then Jordan Pool gets into

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Speaker 1: the mix with a nasty crossover driving layup on Mike

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Speaker 1: Conley to put them up one o nine, one oh six.

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Speaker 1: He's averaging twenty eight points since Steph went down. He

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Speaker 1: hasn't been super efficient, but he's been getting to the

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Speaker 1: line a lot. He's attempting eight free throws a game

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Speaker 1: during that span. Again, I'm not a huge fan of

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Speaker 1: of I'm not I'm not like guys that can draw fouls. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I complain about that a lot on this show. I

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Speaker 1: do think there's a difference between grifting and getting players

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Speaker 1: out of position to draw fouls, and I don't get

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Speaker 1: the vibe from Jordan Pool that he's grifting, So let's

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Speaker 1: just call them eight honorable free throw attempts per game.

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Speaker 1: But most importantly with with free throw attempts, it allows

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Speaker 1: you to set your defense because on those possessions you're

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Speaker 1: resting everyone's back. It's just you're much more likely to

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Speaker 1: get a stop in that specific static situation. So even

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Speaker 1: though Jordan Pool hasn't been super efficient, I think when

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Speaker 1: you factor in the free throw attempts, it actually kind

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00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: of evens out to some pretty productive twenty eight point

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Speaker 1: per game scoring from Jordan Pool. So Mike commonly goes

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Speaker 1: down and he misses a floater, and Kelly Olynnok gets

641
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Speaker 1: an offensive rebound, rises up to take a hook shot,

642
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Speaker 1: and Draymond Green, off of a straight vert with no momentum,

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Speaker 1: rises up and blocks Kelly olynox hook shot. The Warriors

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Speaker 1: allowed just six points over the last seven and a

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Speaker 1: half minutes of the fourth quarter. And all I can

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Speaker 1: say here is, do not take Draymond Green for granted.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure why he's so polarizing even among

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Speaker 1: Warriors fans. Um. I think a lot of people really

649
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Speaker 1: struggle with his box score numbers. If they you know,

650
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: it's just it's surface level type of stuff, like he

651
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: was only two for seven from the field from from

652
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Speaker 1: U two for seven from the field last night. I

653
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Speaker 1: can get why that's discouraging in some In some ways,

654
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I actually think Draymond Green is a good offensive player

655
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Speaker 1: if you factor in the fact that he's one of

656
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Speaker 1: the better short role passers in the league. So when

657
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: Steph is drawing traps or when Jordan Pool is drawing traps,

658
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: he's so good at making the right reads, barreling down

659
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Speaker 1: the barreling down the lane. He's also just a great

660
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Speaker 1: passer in general. With a live dribble in the open floor,

661
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: so the Warriors get a lot of good stuff and

662
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Speaker 1: fast break because Draymond can rise up and grab a

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Speaker 1: rebound and start to break by himself to find open shooters,

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Speaker 1: and then most of his spacing concerns by his inability

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Speaker 1: to shoot her. He's been knocking down some shots lately,

666
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Speaker 1: but most of his spacing concerns are mitigated by him

667
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Speaker 1: just quickly going into dribble handoffs, like we've talked about

668
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Speaker 1: so much on the show that the Warriors do with

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Speaker 1: Looney and Draymond to get open shots. So you know,

670
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Speaker 1: like I actually think Draymond is pretty good offensively, but regardless,

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Speaker 1: he's polarizing for some reason. And I think one of

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Speaker 1: the big reasons why is I think people don't really

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Speaker 1: quite see the defensive value to the extent that it

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Speaker 1: really is um And I think that's sad because I

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Speaker 1: think he's one of the best defensive players of all time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when we look at this Warriors era,

677
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Speaker 1: like Steph is the ultimate foundational piece that goes without

678
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Speaker 1: saying I think he might be the best offensive player ever.

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Speaker 1: Like the guys who are above him all time are

680
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Speaker 1: all monsters on the defensive end, but he might be

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Speaker 1: the best offensive player ever. He makes everything work on

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Speaker 1: that end of the floor. Steph Curry is the ultimate

683
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Speaker 1: foundational piece of this dynasty. But what is the second

684
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Speaker 1: biggest foundational piece of this dynasty. I think it's Draymond

685
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Speaker 1: Green and what he can do on the defensive end

686
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Speaker 1: of the floor. He is their defensive ceiling, his ability

687
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Speaker 1: to protect the rim. What he does is a captain

688
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Speaker 1: of the defense in terms of communicating and organizing guys.

689
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: You know, obviously he's loud, he's talking through coverages, can

690
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: snuff out plays before you know, he can see plays

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Speaker 1: before they're happening, that kind of thing. And then also

692
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Speaker 1: what he can do switching onto the perimeter to guard

693
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Speaker 1: wings and guards like what he did did to Jalen

694
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Speaker 1: Brown in the finals last year. All of that makes him,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially with him being only six ft six,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of one of the great anomalies in NBA history.

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Speaker 1: But what he does on the defensive end of the

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Speaker 1: floor is the second most important foundational piece of this

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Speaker 1: entire dynasty. You know, it doesn't take away from steps greatness.

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Speaker 1: No one wins championships by themselves, but make no mistake,

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Speaker 1: there is no Warriors dynasty without Draymond Green. I just

702
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Speaker 1: wanted to I like, I thought he was so incredible

703
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: defensively down the stretch that game. Um, they probably lose

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Speaker 1: that game if anybody other than Draymond Green is out

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Speaker 1: there defensively in that fourth quarter. UM. But this three

706
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: game win streak means the Warriors in now four and

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Speaker 1: three since the staph injury, so they're above five. Their

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00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: upcoming schedule Portland's at home, Atlanta at home, Detroit at home,

709
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Speaker 1: Orlando at home, the Phoenix Suns without Devin Booker at home.

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Speaker 1: Those are all winnable games like four and one is

711
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Speaker 1: on the table for that stretch, and then they go

712
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Speaker 1: on the road, but it's on the road for San Antonio, Chicago,

713
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Speaker 1: and Washington. Those are all winnable games. Now. Then things

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Speaker 1: get really tough and they go to do a pretty

715
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: pretty crazy stretch of their schedule, but that doesn't start

716
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Speaker 1: until January nineteen, and Steph Curry should be back at

717
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: that point because he did say he's gonna start getting

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Speaker 1: back onto the court probably January one, which is what Sunday,

719
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: So like he is gonna maybe take a week or

720
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: two to get his conditioning, but he should be back

721
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: out on the floor at that point. So all things considered,

722
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: this really couldn't have gone much better for the Warriors

723
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: under the circumstances. This stretch without staff is probably gonna

724
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: end several games above five hundred. That's crazy. They're gonna

725
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: gain ground considering the fact that they were below five

726
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: hundred when the injury actually took place on that night

727
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Speaker 1: against Indiana. Um, you know, my theory is, as we

728
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: talked about, like so many of the Warrior's problems this year,

729
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: there's some depth, depth stuff with the bench, but they

730
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Speaker 1: really solved that to a good extent, not completely solved,

731
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: but they remedied that problem to a good extent by

732
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: staggering their starters with their bench better. So, like I

733
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Speaker 1: believe that a good portion of their issues were was

734
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: a lack of urgency and a blessing in disguise with

735
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: the staff injuries, it seems to have triggered that urgency

736
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: because the night and night out commitment to the work

737
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: has been much better, and they're actually playing some pretty

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Speaker 1: damn good basketball without staff right now. They are one

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Speaker 1: of the most talented teams in the league. Do I

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Speaker 1: think there is talent did as Boston? Probably not. Do

741
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I think there's talented as the Clippers are top to bottom?

742
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Speaker 1: Probably not, But they're right up there, and they just

743
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: weren't playing hard enough, consistently enough, especially on the road

744
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: for the first chunk of this season. But there is

745
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: a lot of talent there and you're seeing that with

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Speaker 1: them winning some games without staff. Now, this show is

747
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit different than most of the

748
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: stuff that we've done over the course of this season.

749
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be entirely focused around a hypothetical trade. So no,

750
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy, but it gives us a chance to

751
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: talk about two teams that are kind of struggling right now,

752
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: and I find this particular trade very interesting. So last

753
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: night I was just talking with the buddy of my name, Sam,

754
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Sam covers the Warriors with Light Years. Those of you

755
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: guys who listen to that show, Him and Andy do

756
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: an amazing job covering covering that team. I love their

757
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: engagement with the fans. It's a very engaging show, and

758
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: they're all also really smart basketball minds as well. And

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Speaker 1: I was bouncing my big trade idea off of Sam,

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Speaker 1: that idea being Darius Garland for o Ganna Nobi, which

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Speaker 1: I think is makes so much sense on so many

762
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Speaker 1: different levels for both of those teams, and he came

763
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Speaker 1: back at me with a trade involving the Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Lakers and the Phoenix Suns that I thought about a

765
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Speaker 1: lot this morning, and I think it makes a ton

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Speaker 1: of sense. So what we're gonna do today is we're

767
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: gonna dive into that trade from a bunch of different angles.

768
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Speaker 1: And I'm really curious to hear what you guys think.

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Speaker 1: If you think it's insane, tell me in the comments

770
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: if you dislike it for one reason or another, If

771
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: you tweak it in any way, put that in the

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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: comments as well, and I'll check that out later tonight.

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Speaker 1: You guys know the joke before we get started. Subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the Volumes YouTube channel so you don't miss any

775
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Speaker 1: more of our videos. Follow me on Twitter at underscore

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Speaker 1: Jason lt so you guys don't miss any show announcements. Then, last,

777
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: but not least, for whatever reason, you guys miss one

778
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Speaker 1: of these shows and you can't get back over to

779
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Speaker 1: YouTube to finish. Remember, you can find them wherever you

780
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Speaker 1: get your podcasts under Hoops tonight. So foundationally, the reason

781
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: why this trade makes sense is both of these teams,

782
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: the Sons and the Lakers, are in crisis mode. The

783
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns were the runaway best team in the NBA

784
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: and in the NBA last year. They won sixty four

785
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: games that they started hot. This year, they started fifteen

786
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: and six, which was the third best record in basketball

787
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: when the calendar flipped over to December. But then December

788
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: happened and they've been five and ten during this month,

789
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Speaker 1: which is the fifth worst record in the league. Their

790
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: defense has completely fallen apart. They have the seven best

791
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: defensive rating in the league in December and they have

792
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: slipped all the way down to fifth in the West,

793
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Speaker 1: and now they're going to be without Devin Booker, who's

794
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: their best player, for at least a month. But more importantly,

795
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: and this is the big reason why I view the

796
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Sons is in crisis, because when you look at the standings,

797
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: they're not that far back. But more importantly, we've seen

798
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: the ceiling of this team. We know fundamentally that when

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00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: you have Booker and Paul, with DeAndre and and the

800
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: role players that they have, even with all the talent

801
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: they have down the roster at the very highest levels,

802
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: when they play against the best players in the world,

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Speaker 1: there seems to be a ceiling to what they can do.

804
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: Booker and Paul have not been able to rise to

805
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: that level. So I think they are in full crisis mode,

806
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: and I think that they probably be more willing to

807
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: break things apart than people realize. Then we have the

808
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: Lakers who lost to Miami last night. They're now fourteen

809
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: and twenty one. They're still playing solid basketball with Lebron

810
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: on the floor, but they can't do a damn thing

811
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: on either end of the floor when he's off the floor.

812
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: After the game, Lebron said quote, I am a winner,

813
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: and I want to win and give myself a chance

814
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: to win and still compete for a championship playing basketball

815
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: at this level, just to be playing basketball is not

816
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: in my d N. A, it's not in my DNA anymore.

817
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: End quote. So Lebron now starting to come basically publicly

818
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: come out and imply that he's not happy with where

819
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: the rosters at. And now they're in this weird predicament

820
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: where they're so far down in the standings that things

821
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: look kind of bleak, even with Anthony Davis returning in

822
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: a few weeks. We had a report a couple of

823
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Speaker 1: days ago that Anthony Davis is not feeling any pain

824
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: in his foot, and seven to ten days from now

825
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: they're going to reevaluate him and probably ramp him back up. Um.

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Speaker 1: But this idea that you know, the Warriors are gonna

827
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Speaker 1: probably not do anything, Uh, that's something that we kind

828
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Speaker 1: of saw coming coming into the season. They set the

829
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Speaker 1: team up for failure. Then they'd failed, then they wouldn't

830
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Speaker 1: do anything. We're not gonna hash that out again. We've

831
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: hashed that a million times on this show. But Sam

832
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Speaker 1: proposed a trade between the Sons and the Lakers that

833
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: I think makes an alarming amount of sense for both teams.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna give you

835
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: guys the framework of the trade. Then I'm gonna look

836
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: at it from the Lakers perspective, and then I'm gonna

837
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: look at it from the Sun's perspective. So the framework

838
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: of this trade would be Anthony Davis to the Sons

839
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: and Jay Crowder DeAndre Ayton in three first round picks

840
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: to the Lakers. So now there's a couple of there's

841
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: a couple of caveats first, so the trade cannot be

842
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: executed till January per the CBA rules surrounding the new

843
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: deal that Eton signed, and DeAndre Ayton would have veto

844
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: power over any trade for the rest of this season. Um.

845
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Speaker 1: Although I doubt that DeAndre Ayton would veto a Lakers trade. Um,

846
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: why we'll let's just talk about what his role would

847
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Speaker 1: look like with the Lakers. Obviously it's great to go

848
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Speaker 1: to l A. I also think he'd just be used

849
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: a lot more there. Um. So, first of all, with

850
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Speaker 1: the Lakers, I'm a huge believer in the Lebron and

851
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis corp. When they're healthy, as you guys know,

852
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: when Anthony Davis is actually good the way he was

853
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: over the course of this season and not kind of

854
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: disengaged in out of shape the way the way he

855
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Speaker 1: was the previous two seasons. When Anthony Davis is playing

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Speaker 1: like that and Lebron James is playing the way he's

857
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: been playing, you saw what happened when they went into

858
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and beat the Bucks. They still have a ceiling

859
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: as high as anybody else in the league. But this

860
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: is the third consecutive season that Anthony Davis has suffered

861
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: a significant injury causing him to miss significant time. And

862
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: I also think he's had a huge workload in Los

863
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Angeles because of the roster limitations that has exacerbated that

864
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: particular issue. Then we look at DeAndre Ayton. Deandreyton is

865
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: a super talented twenty four year old player that immediately

866
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: gives you a legit center to build your defensive foundation on. Yes,

867
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: he's had some issues with missing games himself, but not

868
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: nearly to the extent that Anthony Davis has had. And

869
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: he's younger. He's twenty four years old, so it's far

870
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: more likely that he'll be available in the coming years

871
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: than Anthony Davis has been uh and most importantly, and

872
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: this is a big part of it, you know, I

873
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: think I think DeAndre is capable of a lot more

874
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: offensive creation than what he's shown in Phoenix. They're a

875
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: pick and roll offense with two outstanding pick and roll

876
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: ball handlers. The vast majority of their offensive organization is

877
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: geared towards those guards and not towards getting DeAndre in touches.

878
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: He does get touches, but they're typically as a rollman

879
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: or as a popman, not usually in the post. When

880
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: he does get the ball in the post, he's been good.

881
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: He scored one point zero two points per possession on

882
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: post ups, which is really solid. That sixteenth in the

883
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: league among players who have attempted at least fifty shots

884
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: on post ups. He's also shooting forty six on jumpers

885
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: this year, including from three, albeit on low volume. I

886
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 1: think when DeAndre gets into his late twenties, he's gonna

887
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: be a very reliable jump shooter on volume. He's already

888
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: a pretty dependable jump shooter right now on lower volume.

889
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: He's not a perfect player, like he can take some

890
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: possessions off. We know he can be pouty. He can

891
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: have bad defensive games. Um, but mean I also want

892
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: to cut him some slack because clearly he doesn't want

893
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: to be in Phoenix. He went out and signed with

894
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: another team, and Phoenix made him come back with it

895
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: with obviously with an arrangement that's in the c b

896
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: A to protect your draft right, So I don't have

897
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: any problem with it. But make no mistake, the Sons

898
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: don't really want him and he doesn't really want to

899
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: be there, so I think that probably factors into his

900
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: behavior a little bit. That said, I do believe it's

901
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: a little bit in his personality where he can take

902
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: some possessions and games off and have a bad attitude

903
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: from time to time. But to zoom out, Deandreton is

904
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: very very good and he probably will get much better.

905
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: That's just a fact. At this point, what would the

906
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: Lakers do with DeAndre and if they got him in

907
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: that kind of trade, So there's basically two directions you

908
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: can go from there. You can because we gotta look

909
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: at it like this. You're also getting Jay Crowder in

910
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: that deal, who's not my favorite wing in the world.

911
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: But with how I say thin, the Lakers do not

912
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: have wings. They just they just don't, so even though

913
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: crowd is not my favorite wing in the world, he

914
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: would immediately feel a very specific roster and need and

915
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: make them a lot better in that specific area their roster.

916
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: And with the influx of three first round picks, you

917
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: would now have five tradeable first round picks within this season.

918
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: So from there you'd have two directions. You could go

919
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: as the Lakers. You could win now with Lebron. You

920
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: have a solid front court rotation there with Lebron, Deandreton,

921
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: Jay Crowder, and Thomas Bryant. You flip Russell Westbrook, Patrick Beverley,

922
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn and all of those draft picks for as

923
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: much talent as you possibly can find. I'd call the

924
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: Wizards and try to throw russ and at A in three,

925
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: four or five picks to try to get Bradley Beal.

926
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: You could call the Pistons and try to get Boy

927
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: and Bogdanovitch. You could call the Jazz and try to

928
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: get some real shooting that they don't really have on

929
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: the roster. You could call Charlotte and try to get

930
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: some of the younger athletic wings. They have over sixty

931
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: million in tradeable salary that doesn't really touch their core

932
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: players and five draft picks. There's a lot you can

933
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: do there and still have Austin Reeves, Lawn You Walker,

934
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder, Lebron, J DeAndre and J Crowder. It's still

935
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: have like a little foundation to pair with whatever you

936
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: can bring back in the trade market. And the key

937
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: there is Lebron has been a top five player in

938
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: the world over the last five weeks. In his last

939
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: seventeen games, he's averaging thirty points, eight rebounds, and six

940
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: assists on six true shooting, which is outrageous box score production.

941
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: And the Lakers are outscoring teams by five points per

942
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: one possessions over that span, when Lebron is on the

943
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: floor with arguably the worst supporting cast in the league.

944
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: So as ridiculous as it might sound, you know, when

945
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about retooling around a guy who's thirty eight

946
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: years old, it's a legitimate option that's on the table.

947
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: But the second option there is full rebuild. If you

948
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: do nothing, or if you trade Anthony Davis this season

949
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: and you don't invest in him after that, Lebron will

950
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: probably request a trade in this offseason. Now that's a

951
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: whole separate conversation, because that'll be a really ugly moment

952
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: in Lakers history for Lebron's first raid request to be

953
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: before his twenty feet season. And there's a case to

954
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: be made that that big of a fiasco would make

955
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: it very difficult for the Lakers to bring in stars

956
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: in the future because as long as Rob Polink is

957
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: at the Helm, they won't get anybody. But even if

958
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: they fired Rob Polink and brought somebody else in, Genie

959
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Buss is now the poorest owner in the NBA. And

960
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: as we know, when you want to compete at the

961
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: highest levels on a year by year basis, you have

962
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: to be willing to dip into the tax and Genie

963
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: Bustlett Alex Cruso go a player that would be monumentally

964
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: helpful to them for ten million a year, obviously with

965
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: a luxury at tax of thirty but Genie Buss can't

966
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: foot that bill. She's the poorest owner in the NBA,

967
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: So that you know, this whole thing going up in

968
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: flames would be a disaster for Genie Buss, which is

969
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: precisely why it's so important for her to protect competency

970
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: during this phase. But with how if they did decide

971
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: to go the whole rebuild route. Even at Lebron's age,

972
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: he still has some kind of value and he would

973
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: bring back some kind of asset return. How much we

974
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, Lebron being this good at his

975
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: age is so unprecedented that we don't really have anything

976
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: to fall back on there. I don't really have any

977
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: idea what he would fetch. I mean, I would imagine

978
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: on the low end of the spectrum, you're gonna get

979
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: to a combination of two young players and picks, whether

980
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: that's two young players or two first or one player

981
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: one first. I would think that would be the low end.

982
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Potentially more if Lebron finishes the year healthy. But let's

983
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: just say for the sake of argument, that it's two

984
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: first round picks. Okay, that puts you because at that

985
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: point they also get another draft pick going in the

986
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: next season that's tradeable. So going in the next season,

987
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: they would then have eight I can't get my fingers right,

988
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: eight tradeable first round draft picks, crowders and expiring, so

989
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: he'd be off the books. All you'd have on the

990
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: cap sheet would be DeAndre Ayton, who's a max contract

991
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: but an affordable and tradeable max contract. He only makes

992
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: thirty two the next year, thirty four the following thirty

993
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: six the year after that, Damien Jones has a player

994
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: option for two point six million in max. Christie is

995
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: on the books for one point seven million, which is

996
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: very little. So if you flip Lebron after the season,

997
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: you've got a ton of draft picks to work with

998
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: and an open cap sheet. Or there's another direction you

999
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: can go, because when when the Lebron if they trade Lebron,

1000
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: there's two directions they can go. You can target expiring

1001
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: contracts for cap flexibility, in which case you're probably gonna

1002
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: get less in the way of draft draft compensation. Like

1003
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe it's expiring contracts, but you only get one first

1004
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: round pick, you know, or one first round pick in

1005
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: a second round pick, right. But the other route you

1006
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: can go as you take on salary with draft picks

1007
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: and you use that salary partnered with those eight draft

1008
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: picks to go trade for a star. Like we talked

1009
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: about earlier, the incompetency that the Lakers have demonstrated to

1010
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: the league will make it hard for them to get stars.

1011
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: So having draft capital that you can pair up with

1012
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: salary is actually a good thing for them, especially in

1013
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: the modern NBA where that's turned out kind of one

1014
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: of the better ways to get stars in the first place. So,

1015
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: no matter what, you have like some real flexibility there

1016
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: with lots of draft picks and either cap space or

1017
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: salary filler. That leaves two interesting options for the Lakers.

1018
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: You can win now with Ayton, or you can go

1019
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the full rebuild route. Um looking over at the Sun's

1020
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: Crowder isn't with the team right now, so there's no

1021
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: real loss there. Phoenix clearly doesn't like Atan. Like we

1022
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: talked about earlier, it's mutual and happiness and Anthony Davis,

1023
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: when healthy this year, was one of the five best

1024
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: players in basketball. He's been the best defensive player in

1025
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: the league this year when he was available. He rediscovered

1026
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: his jump shot during this recent run, which was making

1027
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: him a terrifying ISO and post up threat. And in

1028
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: Phoenix's pick and roll attack, which is basically the line

1029
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: share of where they were in their offense, he'd be

1030
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: a much better version of Aten. He's a better vertical spacer,

1031
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: he's a better passer out of the short role. He's

1032
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: got better hands. Deandreton also has great hands, but Anthony

1033
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: Davis's ability to catch and finish and pick and rolls insane,

1034
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: and he's better at beating switches. Sixteen players in the

1035
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: league this year have logged at least seventy five rollman possessions,

1036
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: and a d is second in the league on a

1037
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: points per possession basis at one point three seven Trivia

1038
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: Who's first? Christian would um, that's what the Lakers team too.

1039
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: That's so devoid of talent that Anthony Davis is typically

1040
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: catching in traffic surrounded by two or three bodies at

1041
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: a time. So I think he significantly raises phoenix Is

1042
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: ceiling on both ends of the floor. But most importantly,

1043
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: he gives Phoenix a player that can go toe to

1044
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: toe with the best players in the world. They ran

1045
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: into Janice, and Janice was too much for them. They

1046
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: ran into Luca and Luco is too much for them.

1047
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: This year, it'll be someone else. Do you want to

1048
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: have Anthony Davis on your team so that you can

1049
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: look at eye with that guy and feel like you

1050
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: like your chances or do you to have a repeat

1051
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: of the same history that we've had over the last

1052
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. I've seen Anthony Davis give Nicola Yokis

1053
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: fits and out play him in a playoff series. I've

1054
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: seen Anthony Davis give Joel and Bead fits. I've seen

1055
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis give Jana Sanntenna Kumpo fits. He's like like

1056
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: he's he's that ultimate ceiling raising peace that the Son's need.

1057
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: And because of his injury history, he's gettable in a

1058
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: way that Kevin Durant is not. And and that's what

1059
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: I think makes them so interesting. I've seen a lot

1060
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: of Sons fans saying like, oh, we should go get

1061
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma, and I really like Kyle Kuzma, and I

1062
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: think that he would really help a team with legitimate

1063
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: title aspirations. But specifically for the Sons, I don't think

1064
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: it raises their ceiling enough because the stars are still

1065
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: the issue. But most importantly, if you make that trade,

1066
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: it kind of resets the culture. Like ever since that

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Speaker 1: loss to Luca, the Sons have had a weird energy

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Speaker 1: around them um and a lot of that I think

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Speaker 1: stems from the negativity of the eight in relations and ship.

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Speaker 1: So not only does it make you much better within

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Speaker 1: this season because you alleviate some of that negativity, but

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Speaker 1: then you kind of have an interesting cord to move

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Speaker 1: forward with between Devin Booker and Cam Johnson, who I

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Speaker 1: really like, and Anthony Davis. That's a really interesting core

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Speaker 1: that you can build even new teams around in the future.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I think it makes a lot of

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Speaker 1: sense for both teams. Gives the Lakers some options to

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Speaker 1: potentially contend in the immediate future and to contend in

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Speaker 1: the future, and I think it gives the Sons a

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Speaker 1: real championship ceiling that they've lacked over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years. So I think it makes sense. Um. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: with any of these trades, there's a great deal of

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Speaker 1: unlikeliness or unlikelihood just because of the fact that so

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Speaker 1: many things have to break right for a trade um

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Speaker 1: to get consummated. But I'm really interested to hear what

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Speaker 1: you guys think. So if you guys think it's stupid,

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Speaker 1: tell me. If you don't like it for one team

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Speaker 1: more than the other, tell me, if you would tweak

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Speaker 1: it in any way, tell me. But I'm genuinely curious

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Speaker 1: what you guys think. And I also want to hear

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Speaker 1: some other a D trade ideas because I do think

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Speaker 1: that's a direction the Lakers could end up going before

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Speaker 1: the deadline. Al Right, guys, that is all I have

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Speaker 1: for today. We're going to take the rest of the

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Speaker 1: weekend off, and then we'll be back Monday to talk

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Speaker 1: about the m v P showdown between Nicola Yokich and

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Speaker 1: Jayson Tatum. As always, I sincerely appreciate you guys support,

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you guys on Monday. The Volume