WEBVTT - “I AM A CUCK”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, what's going on? Ship?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm at the gym right now, but obviously

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<v Speaker 2>i'm picking you up over the gym right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What gym are you at? What's the address?

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<v Speaker 2>Playing fitness? Of course?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they still serve pizza there on Fridays?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah?

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<v Speaker 2>So actually they have a tin near the instruments with

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<v Speaker 2>the shittiest candy over. They either got tutsi rolls or

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<v Speaker 2>like the the like purple Tootsy, the f fruities. I think, yeah, there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird. We don't get pizza anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We just get girl the dentist office candy. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Dog? My name? God? This is I'm just gonna drop

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<v Speaker 2>my my alias Blorty aka swim diaper on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Slim diaper, swim diaper, what's going on? Slim diaper? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Lem day swim So like yeah, yeah, swim diaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, it's not like it's not arm D it's

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<v Speaker 2>always cardiod.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's always cardio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I start popping e like estrogen and like spiro,

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<v Speaker 2>which like like kills your tystosterone and shit. So like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like girls saying are you are you transitioning?

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<v Speaker 2>I just like to say I'm grown tests and my

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<v Speaker 2>hair out.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. What how is your does estrogen grow hair?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I used to be like super

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<v Speaker 2>jacked and then and then my first experience like a

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<v Speaker 2>hormone blacker was an asteride if you know about an asteride.

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<v Speaker 2>So because my hair was starting to thin at like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two and I got on it and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, damn, like I really want like fucking long,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty hair like over muscles. So I kind of switched

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<v Speaker 2>up and now I'm going no muscle with hits and

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<v Speaker 2>long hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So what made you want to grow tits?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think I just kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>I could get really deep into it with the whole

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<v Speaker 2>like tran sing, but like ultimately it's like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>like really want to be like feminine, there's like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one side of things, and if you really want

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<v Speaker 2>to be masks, and that's kind of another side of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of wanted to be the more feminine

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<v Speaker 2>side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you view a beautiful long hair to be a

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<v Speaker 1>feminine trait?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, totally totally. I mean we're like designed as dudes,

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<v Speaker 2>like like not have nice hair. You know we're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to have like body hair and shit or so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like long pretty hair is like totally a chicken thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like in my head at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll swim. I'm just I'm just going to call

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<v Speaker 1>you swim. We'll swim. What did you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So, so I am like a very active member

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<v Speaker 2>in the adult baby community aka a b d L.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it tatted on my ass like hardcore and

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<v Speaker 2>this ship hardcore in the scene, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>we like to go like there's parties all over the

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<v Speaker 2>country at like either it's like a mansion or like

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<v Speaker 2>a like an Airbnb mansion, and it's just a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us like cooler, like better to vibe with a

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<v Speaker 2>b DLS that like are invited like forty people or so,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of party favors and you could

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<v Speaker 2>probably guess with that is experimental party favorites too, and

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<v Speaker 2>we all kind of just like every single person I

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<v Speaker 2>was wearing a diaper, like like pissing in diapers, not shit,

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<v Speaker 2>and just pissing in diapers and partying and like it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like an orgy for like like a low

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<v Speaker 2>key orgy, like you know, you're playing card games too,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not just fucking you know, for like four days

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<v Speaker 2>and then a few months later another one happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever catch any gnarly SGDs doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, So that's like the beauty of beautiful thing about diapers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not always like we're not always like having kind

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<v Speaker 2>of regular intercourse. Like I don't know, we we all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like part of like being an adult baby

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<v Speaker 2>and like being like a diaper fetishist is like you

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<v Speaker 2>like the feeling of like like like pissing a diaper,

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<v Speaker 2>which sounds like so weird, but like especially feels good

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<v Speaker 2>on substances like swim.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you that that sounds like there's an

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<v Speaker 1>even greater opportunity to pass diseases.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. I think adding piss and

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<v Speaker 1>ship into the mix is probably all right, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>you draw your line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's just like think about it, dude, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we're regular people too. If you shit, if you sit

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<v Speaker 2>in a diaper at a party, you're kind of killing

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you hold on? Hold on I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so confused. The whole point is that it's an orgy

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of people in diapers pretending to be babies.

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<v Speaker 1>But then if somebody, you know what I I just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say this, if I were attending one of these

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<v Speaker 1>parties as a you know, like if I were into

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<v Speaker 1>being a baby, and I would totally feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a place where I could take a shit

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<v Speaker 1>in my diaper. That's the whole point of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of wearing a diaper is to shit in it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. So what like that's the line

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<v Speaker 1>you everyone gets mad at him, dude, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is like a rule that's been like curated

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<v Speaker 2>through like trial and error because of course as an aby, deal, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you ask me, have I shat in a diaper?

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<v Speaker 2>As an adult, of course I have. Does it like smell

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<v Speaker 2>like shit like in the whole room? Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>totally not the vibe. So if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got like a party of like forty people,

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<v Speaker 2>and people are like dancing like some people are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like eating some candy. Some people are like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>making out, Like you don't want an automate like all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden like smell like shit. You know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it kills the vibe. So I get

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<v Speaker 2>where you're coming from. But I kind of disagree, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>I I feel like the lines you draw are arbitrary.

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you.

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<v Speaker 1>How long you've been doing this for.

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<v Speaker 2>The probably been in the community for like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like four or five years. But the thing about like

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<v Speaker 2>a b DLS is we've all been into this shit

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<v Speaker 2>like without knowing each other since basically birth, which sounds weird,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like true, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds actually it actually it makes perfect sense. You were

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<v Speaker 1>really into being a baby since you were a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it was a fuck, that's damn. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>about it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I feel like I know more about being

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<v Speaker 1>a baby than honestly, Well, you have.

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<v Speaker 2>An outside point of view. It's a it's a great

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<v Speaker 2>perspective you have. You know. I don't get to get

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<v Speaker 2>this perspective often because I don't tell like regular people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why don't you tell regular people?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, think about it. You know you're at

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<v Speaker 2>the bar, you know you're meeting you meet a cute

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<v Speaker 2>chick or something. Or whatever, and you know, you tell

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<v Speaker 2>her you like to like piss and type like, it

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<v Speaker 2>probably reduces your chances a little bit. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one of those things that we keep amongst ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>because people get fired from jobs and shit and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Like it's it's better just to keep this

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<v Speaker 2>shit like private and tucked away.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, you know what, sure, if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to a girl at a bar and you tell her

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<v Speaker 1>that you like to piss in a diaper, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine point chance that she's going to be turned

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<v Speaker 1>off by that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd reduce that number a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd reduce there's there's a zero point zero, zero one

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<v Speaker 1>percent chance that she's going to be extremely turned on

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<v Speaker 1>by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn. Well, see that's this is my thinking. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're very smart. I think you're onto something. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on the same thing. So I got it tatted the

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<v Speaker 2>acronym on my ass because if you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you see the acrom after nam and it means

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to you, it means nothing to you. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>one step ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the acronym?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh A B D l ah.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, and it's on your ass too.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, my girlfriend. Now, I guess you could say,

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<v Speaker 2>well legally my wife, but I call her my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to marry her because I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this too. I had to marry her because

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<v Speaker 2>we found out her visa was kind of expired.

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<v Speaker 1>So where's she from?

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<v Speaker 2>Canada?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Is she also a baby person?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, definitely very much. Uh yeah, yeah, I met

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<v Speaker 2>her at a convention. Yeah, and her ex actually saw

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<v Speaker 2>me and thought that was how I wanted to fuck me.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of how she came to like acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>my existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys swing?

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't, but like I'm into like I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's hot, like if she like occasionally like fucks other people.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's I don't know, it sounds like weird, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's totally not.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a one sided open relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's called being a cook.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how long you've been into doing that for?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing about like Fetishit is like I've

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<v Speaker 2>probably like gotten off to it for like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like eight years now, but I like dove in within

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<v Speaker 2>like the last year or so, and it's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of makes you feel like a fucking loser.

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<v Speaker 2>But it sucks because.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's hot so well, but isn't feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking loser part of the experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is, but it's like I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>explained this some of like my girl is. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like getting spanked or something like because

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<v Speaker 2>you like it doesn't mean it doesn't also hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, hm, tell me more about being a cook.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like begged my chick to like get a

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<v Speaker 2>like a dating app or something, and what do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>She's banned from Tinder. So we had the resort to bumble,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, she she got to slipe in, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>started talking to some dudes and like she's like telling

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<v Speaker 2>me like the messages and shit, and I think it's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>I fucking hate that I think it's hot. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I definitely have definitely jerked off, like some of

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<v Speaker 2>the messages beflunch and that's I feel so lame doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But so anyways, yeah, I I've gotten turned on to it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then eventually, you know, it ends up happening, and

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<v Speaker 2>actually it really pissed me off, Like I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a I felt like a loser, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like kind of like she obviously wasn't cheating on me,

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<v Speaker 2>but it kind of like felt like that in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>And but at the same time, like I was turned on.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like it was like a shitty situation. But

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<v Speaker 2>then time goes on and all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want like I got over that part, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not, I'm not insecure about that part much anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know she wants me, she doesn't want some

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking loser, like you know. So, but it hurts

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<v Speaker 2>at first, being a coup.

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<v Speaker 1>It hurts the first Do you wish that it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>turn you on?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>M How many times do you do when she has

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<v Speaker 1>like has she when she hooks up with these guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you in the room with her?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, So that hasn't happened yet. You got to get

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<v Speaker 2>some like serious falls to have that happened. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of scared of like diving into it too much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, so hold up, backtrack. It's been over the phone,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's had her phone on and and I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole interaction. I want to like see it

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, but I don't think I could be there,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's just pushing it like too far,

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<v Speaker 2>because like realistically speaking, like it's like a can of

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<v Speaker 2>worms opening sort of situation, you know, And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to like to really fuck up my like sexuality.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's already so fucking twisted. So how are you

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<v Speaker 2>being very careful with that?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel like you would fuck up your sexuality?

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean there's kind of like like having a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with somebody and being a cock like kind of

0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.760
<v Speaker 2>contradicts itself because you want the person like fuck somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>So like while some people might think like being an

0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.160
<v Speaker 2>abdl's like a lot weirder, Like I'm more comfortable like

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<v Speaker 2>diving into that than I am, like tuck stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it to like fuck up my relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think like dipping my toes in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit is preventing me from like diving way too deep,

0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's also preventing me from like not getting to

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<v Speaker 2>experience it. So it's like a safe medium just the

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<v Speaker 2>occasional dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever talked to a therapist about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're the first one. No, I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you think this fetish comes from?

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<v Speaker 2>The cuck one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the okay av DL the source is more clear.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically this is just kind of like the a

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<v Speaker 2>commonly said thing like amongst av dls, it's like all

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<v Speaker 2>the dudes are autistic and all the chicks have VPD

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of holds true. So I think I

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<v Speaker 2>have something to do with that. It's definitely like a

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<v Speaker 2>neurodiversion thing, like you don't get into this ship like

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<v Speaker 2>being uh, it's neurotypical at all. You gotta have you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta have something like twisted in your mind and like

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<v Speaker 2>the cuck stuff. One time, I like manically got obsessive

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<v Speaker 2>and like I've like convinced myself that like my ex

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<v Speaker 2>like cheated on me, and then like slowly over time

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<v Speaker 2>after like thinking about it, think about it, like hating it,

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<v Speaker 2>hating it. This is like four or five years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>like eventually I started like the idea. Yeah, it's very

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<v Speaker 2>often it's kind of sad. So I heard the dude

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<v Speaker 2>like three times people ago, and I really hope he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't hear this. I hope he's not tuned in. But

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope that doesn't awaken a cuckhold fetish for him.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is like a scenario where like something like

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<v Speaker 2>that would happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So your ex cheated on you and.

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<v Speaker 2>I went, I went mentally manically crazy. I had it decent,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I could, I could pitch to you the

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<v Speaker 2>manic story, but it's like pointless. But I convinced myself

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<v Speaker 2>that she had cheated on me.

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<v Speaker 1>You convinced yourself that she had cheated on you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that awakened within you a fantasy that she did,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that fantasy manifested itself as sexually pleasurable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>M So, I mean it is so is your girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>is so? Is is that true? Is your girlfriend BPD

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<v Speaker 1>and you're autistic?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Like so the thing is like obviously everybody's not

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<v Speaker 2>like this super horrible BPD or and the dudes are

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<v Speaker 2>like super horrible horribly like autistic. But like the I

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<v Speaker 2>do I definitely show like autistic symptoms And does my

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<v Speaker 2>girl definitely show strong DPD slash autistic symptoms? Yeah totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess it's not like like I wasn't any

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<v Speaker 2>special classes or some shit, not to like Discole's classes

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<v Speaker 2>and shit, but I was I wasn't well.

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<v Speaker 1>Look everything aside, I mean, how old are you? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, okay, I mean how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like life?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I've had a lot of ups and downs with that,

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<v Speaker 2>like since I was probably like I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, I got very depressed like for years and shit,

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<v Speaker 2>but like kind of rolling with but ironically, like that

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<v Speaker 2>was at that time when I was not really like

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<v Speaker 2>being true to myself. And yeah, I would say, like

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<v Speaker 2>life is like improved a lot, and I feel a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better about myself, especially even in like my vanilla life,

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<v Speaker 2>just because of the fact that I'm like doing these

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<v Speaker 2>things that I've always wanted to do, so like involving

0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.199
<v Speaker 2>myself into like Avid Yell and like partying with like

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<v Speaker 2>super cool people that are like awesome, and like getting

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.280
<v Speaker 2>to experience like tuck stuff all this. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's I don't know, it's been a little

0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.200
<v Speaker 2>like I guess like pep in my step you could say,

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<v Speaker 2>in like my vanilla life. So currently I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm definitely feeling a lot better about my life

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<v Speaker 2>than like I was a couple of years ago like

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<v Speaker 2>a million percent, but I would say I'm still a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit depressed, but so much better. So this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is ironically like helped a little bit, like for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I mean I was gonna say, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>societal conventions aside. I feel like these things are a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of you know, if if the individual is benefiting

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<v Speaker 1>from them. And it sounds as though from everything you've

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<v Speaker 1>told me that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This stuff has been good for you by your own.

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<v Speaker 2>Definition, yea, yeah, definitely, I mean it's definitely been good

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.919
<v Speaker 2>for me, And I think like it gets such a

0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:59.199
<v Speaker 2>bad rep like online, but because like very often, like

0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.080
<v Speaker 2>the people that are lengths like say go on to

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<v Speaker 2>TV shows or like go on to like stuff like this,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, are like the people that are like crazy

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<v Speaker 2>because most of the cool a b DL is like

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<v Speaker 2>have the common sense to like not call in but

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<v Speaker 2>like but you know, like I'm stupid, I'm stupid as ship,

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 2>but I'm also like cool enough, so like you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're very fortunate to have like a real look through

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<v Speaker 2>me of like a regular A b DAL. There's there's

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<v Speaker 2>people in a by d L in in very high

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 2>corporate positions incredibly rich people, incredibly successful people like I

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<v Speaker 2>would say actually more successful than average. And also I

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<v Speaker 2>would say a lot of the people in tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean, of course that makes fortune kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean every when you walk down the street, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like there's the subconscious and all that stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>and when you walk down the street, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just look at someone and they're probably reallyant. You know,

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:13.639
<v Speaker 1>you walk past at least every day, you walk past

0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 1>at least five different people who like getting shat on

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<v Speaker 1>their chest.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's beautiful to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't know, Yeah, I understand, you know,

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean this stuff getting a hate online, right, like

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the cook stuff and the ABDL stuff. I mean, I

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 1>think I'd like to think most people share the sentiment socially,

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>politically whatever. They share the sentiment that human beings should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do whatever they want as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they don't interfere with other human beings' ability to also

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever they want. There's varying interpretations of what counts

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>as interference. You know, some people are like, oh, well,

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.040
<v Speaker 1>if you, you know, pretend to be a baby, you

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<v Speaker 1>spit in the face of God, which is an interference

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, to me or something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>most people, I think, don't give a fuck what other

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<v Speaker 1>people do as long as it doesn't affect them.

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<v Speaker 2>I would I hate to say this one man, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to say this. I disagree with you a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit because like in my experience, like and just seeing

0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 2>comments and kind of like being around this, like in

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 2>this position, you hear that sort of perspective, but and

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 2>you like hope that's true. But then very often people

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.640
<v Speaker 2>will be like, oh, but that's too fucking weird. Man,

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.959
<v Speaker 2>that's too fucking weird. That like that can't be allowed.

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 2>We've pushed the ball too far shit like that. And

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:13.199
<v Speaker 2>it's and it's sad too because it's like, I don't know,

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff like fighting for acceptance. It's

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>like kind of shoving your face, and like av DL

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.719
<v Speaker 2>is kind of something that like we want it to

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<v Speaker 2>be behind closed doors. We just don't want like we

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of think like, hey, like if if you accidentally

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 2>find out somehow that like somebody who employs happens to

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<v Speaker 2>be in a b d L, although he tried to

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<v Speaker 2>hide it, like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost well, I think here's what, well, you have a thing,

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you have a Here's the thing with the av DL

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>that you have going strongly against you is that Look, obviously,

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that everybody in this community is an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I people understandably have reservations about uh, you know,

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>even if it's two consenting adults, reservations about folks who

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>are into like age play, like oh well, because no,

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>there's no more hated person in the world than a

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>person than a person who wants to fuck babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'd have to agree with you there, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have to agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of on an unfortunate uh uh thing. Yeah,

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the position that we've got ourselves in. But obviously, like

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I explained, like very much so has nothing to do

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 2>with the other. But yeah, what are we What am

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I supposed to do to shake that? You know? But

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 2>it's totally all like two adults things. If anything, most

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>people in AVDL are kind of searching for like a

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>little mommy daddy situation. And that isn't exactly like an

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>eight year old like a mommy, like a mommy's like

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<v Speaker 2>third you too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know. I here's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think you can choose what

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 1>the fuck goes on in your brain. You know, you

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can choose what you act on, and you can choose

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>what you try to think about and stuff, But I

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can choose what's going on in your brain.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>So like, look, if something in your brain wants to

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>fuck your mom, you didn't choose that. That's just that's just.

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>But but you, as an enlightened twenty first century human being,

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>make the informed decision, which I think is a good one,

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to not fuck your mom and instead fuck a stranger

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that is of age and consenting that pretends to be

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>your mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody, nobody actually wants to Actually, I understand what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna totally agree with you. Yeah, but obviously

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>it goes without saying like we don't actually want to

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>fuck our moms. We just like the position, the dynamic.

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, you knew that though I know I

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:18.919
<v Speaker 2>know what you were saying.

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>What that. No, I didn't, I mean, I don't. I don't,

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't. I Look, there's all I don't

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>know what's out there, right, I don't know what's out

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>there and but a.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Girl has definitely called you daddy.

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, since when was any of this about me? Swim?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey know, I don't mean to I don't mean to

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>spin it around, but you have been called daddy. I

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>have also been called daddy. It's just a little little stronger.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's about time Prefstar to wrap this up. Swim.

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for paper on Instagram, swimper on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>See you know, I gotta tell you have a lot

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of buck because not only are you calling it you

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you said something like people are crazy enough to call in,

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>but not only are you calling in, you're like, hey,

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>follow me on Instagram. I mean, go for it. You're

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>not stupid here. I don't know what you are, but

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope you have a good rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, it's great talking to you is great.

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Good talking to Swim. Is there anything else you want

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>to say to the people of the universe before we go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Uh, fuck bitches and get money rock and roll.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Have a good one, Swim all rights? Uh was that

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>conversation too fucked up? Hello?

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who is this?

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry? I got to get out of my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name Buco, Oh, my name Simon Simon, like

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<v Speaker 1>one of that's like the chipmunk.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like a chipmunk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's kind of fucked that. I think Alvin's

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<v Speaker 1>the youngest, right, and yet he's the front man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm outside now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, I know you don't give a fuck

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 1>about any of that or what I just said, So

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about you. No, no, no, you don't and you

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have to lie to me, and I prefer a

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>few didn't. But I don't give a fuck about what

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I just said either, none of us do. It's not

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the sacred Simon Simon. You said you texted me a

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>bunch of things. Let's talk about Oh yeah, the first way, uh,

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you said to me, let's talk about it. I want

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to talk about a lot of these things. But you also,

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>here's the first one. You said, I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a fake persona I assume on occasion that has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten me recognition on a national level. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So a couple of years ago, maybe twenty seventeen,

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 4>my wife and I went to a business. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a comic book store, actually worse service ever, Like I

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 4>walked in like I was like, gave me attitude a

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 4>little bit, well, not even add to it. He just

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 4>didn't he didn't even look us in the eye or

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 4>like we were in New we like the area. So like

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 4>I was offended. And as I was walking out, I

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 4>was like, you know what, I'm gonna leave this guy

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 4>a bad review on Google. And so I was like,

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to use my real name, you know,

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, I'll use the name Simon. So

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 4>this Simon's not my real name, but you know you

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 4>probably knew that. So I use the name Simon and

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 4>I reviewed this place. And then over the years, I

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 4>progressively just like started reviewing random businesses that I went

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 4>to Right, and I eventually, over the course of like years,

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 4>my reviews started getting like more views on Google, and

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 4>I would just like copy it and paste that onto

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<v Speaker 4>Yelp at the same time. So then I was getting

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 4>recognition on both Right and Yelp has this like thing

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 4>I guess were like if you like, uh, sorry sound

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 4>shaky by the way I get inside, but uh, they

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 4>have this thing where like if you're a top reviewer,

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 4>they'll like invite you to like events and like the

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 4>city you're from or like your area. So they started

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 4>inviting me to like Houston events because I I'm around Houston.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 4>So they're like, uh, you know this business is opening,

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 4>and uh, we're willing to invite you. But they needed

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 4>a verified profile, right, But I wasn't gonna upload my

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>my face like instead of like coming clean, I just

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.959
<v Speaker 4>like I just doubled down on the on the lie

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 4>and I went on like an AI generated website and

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 4>I made like a I just like generated a generic

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Hispanic guy because I'm Hispanic, and uh, I uploaded that

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 4>and I like got verified, like kind of in a

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 4>sketchy way where I just like putting a fake phone number, YadA, YadA,

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 4>and they stun't started sending me invites to all these

0:30:59.920 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 4>like events in Houston, and I was like, you know,

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to do. So then I like

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 4>stop posting on Yelp. And then on Google, I just

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 4>kept posting my reviews and eventually I got to like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, five million views a month or something,

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 4>and then.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I still have this profile.

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 4>But basically Google just constantly reminds me that like, hey,

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.239
<v Speaker 4>your reviews are getting more recognition. You should upload more,

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 4>you should upload more and I'm like, man, that's not

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 4>even me, you know, and then like not even like

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 4>just on Google, but like in general when them out

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 4>places and someone asked me for my name, so I

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 4>want to give my little name, so I just like

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 4>say I'm Simon, and then Simon's more confident, you know. Sorry,

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 4>if I'm like the rambling, is there any anything I

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 4>should be saying? Or I'm like, did this is connecting?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did your reviews go viral? What is it about

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>them that kept out?

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<v Speaker 4>They're really they're they're they're really detailed there. For example,

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I'll upload photos. A lot of people when they review things,

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<v Speaker 4>they never upload photos. When I go to like places,

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 4>I'll like take pictures of menus and and uh like

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 4>the surrounding areas and stuff, and a lot of people

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 4>don't do that. And a lot of my photos are

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, really detailed in terms of like I I.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>The funny reviews, like people.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, they're very like.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 4>They're very like, uh detailed, like everything that's on the menu,

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 4>if it's affordable, this and.

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<v Speaker 1>That, you know what, what's the worst and you review anything?

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<v Speaker 1>This is just businesses in general?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, any any place that I.

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Just go all the worst place you've ever reviewed, Like,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>what's the most scathing review you've ever written?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a hotel in Mexico that I went to.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was it so terrible?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? Uh Well, when we got there, I had to

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<v Speaker 4>like lock up some documents, and uh the lady was like,

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 4>like as soon as we walked in, the lady was like, ah,

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 4>like it was a chore. So I was like, we

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 4>really needed to walk up these documents, like they're important, right,

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 4>And the lady was like, all right, let me get

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 4>a manager. So she gets to go get the manager, right,

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 4>and then I wait for like thirty minutes to an hour,

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 4>I remember it was a while, and then they get

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.719
<v Speaker 4>the manager comes down and the guy's like all right,

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 4>let's do this, and then take me to like this

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 4>sketchy back area behind the counter where they have the

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 4>lock boxes. I guess they're like security deposit boxes or something.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 4>And the guy can't open it, and the guy's like,

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 4>it's cool with just like Hammick. The documents. I was like, uh,

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 4>I can't just hand you these like sensitive documents because

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 4>they were like legal documents, and he was like, uh okay,

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 4>He's like, well, I can't give you a lock box

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, okay, well can I get my

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 4>deposit back? And they're like sorry. I was like, oh okay,

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh what am I gonna do? I'm in Mexico, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't much.

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 4>It was like I don't know, sixty pences or something.

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 4>And then uh, like whenever I got my hotel room,

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 4>there was nobody else at this hotel. By the way,

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 4>it was like three floors. Though for some reason, they

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 4>put me like on the third floor, and uh, they

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 4>put me on the one hall. They had like no

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 4>lights on in the hallways, like the lights are all out,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 4>so it made it feel extra sketchy, and it's like

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 4>they could have put me like on the first floor something.

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Probably only want to die.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are you Is this your full time job?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, I actually work at a grocery store,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I haven't been able to How have you haven't

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>been able to monetize this? There's all there's all kinds

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>of like professional douchebag review people who write for magazines

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's more about the it's not it's not

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 4>and none of it's under my name, my real name.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how like that affects, Like can I

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 4>run a business without it being my real name? You know,

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 4>but like the legality of it.

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess that would be I guess. I guess that's

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 1>what Banksy does. He's he's rich.

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I guess so. But I'm already like and

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 4>like I can't get involved with shady things because because

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm like in the process of getting something fixed.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 4>So like if I get involved in shady things, then

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 4>then that won't come through.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, what is that? What do you mean You're

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 1>in the process of getting something fixed.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 4>Well, like I'm getting my my citizenship, and like in

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 4>order to get my citizenship in the US, I had

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 4>to like go through to get my uh my permanent residency.

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 4>But in order to get my permanent residency, I had

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<v Speaker 4>to like apply are you are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you from Mexico?

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 4>I am, you know originally, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Between between the US and Mexico. As a professional judger

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of things, which which place has shittier stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Oh that's a hard one. Part of me wants

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 4>to say, obviously Mexico. But it's more affordable there, you know,

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 4>it depends food. Food, Mexico obviously wins genuine leather leather

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 4>items and like craftsmanship items, I guess Mexico, but like

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 4>more manufactured and technology items. I would say the US probably.

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 1>M You know I have I've always had a great

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>disdain for reviewers.

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go I'm about to go off on you, Simon.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I've always had a great disdain for reviewers because you know,

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>all these like a movie review people, art review people,

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>food review people. Because I mean, typically a reviewer unless

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>if it's like somebody who was in the industry of

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the thing they're reviewing and contributed to that industry for

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>a while and then comes back with a particular expertise,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm almost kind of like, well, shut the fuck out.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>You didn't you didn't do anything. You know, at least

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>this person did. You know, they tried to cook something,

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.720
<v Speaker 1>or they tried to make a movie or a hotel,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>or at least they tried to you know, they contributed something,

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean a review it doesn't really contribute anything.

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Is this like a kind of like well, like for example,

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 4>if if someone cleans your house, do you expect their

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 4>house to be clean or do you just respect the

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 4>profession that they're cleaning your house.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>If somebody cleans your house, do you expect their house

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to be if somebody cleans my house, are you I

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>don't understand.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 4>What do you expect their house, their personal home to

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 4>be clean because you're the person should be No?

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I just I only care if they're able

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to clean my I guess if I pay somebody to

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>clean my house, I only care if they are able

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>to successfully clean my house. I don't care what's going

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>on with any other aspect of their personal cleanliness.

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 4>I see, I see.

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I guess I'm like a professional online douchebag in

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 4>a way, not intentionally. Just yes, but then all no, no,

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 4>not all My reviews are scathingly bad though.

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Simon, Yeah, so am I.

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:57.439
<v Speaker 2>That's fair?

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You also talking about this, you said I've been working

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>at a grocery store for ten years to get confidence

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>from not being myself. What does that mean?

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh, sometimes I'll pretend to be Simon at work to

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 4>be more confident, if that makes any sense. Okay, the

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 4>person who I am isn't as confident, so sometimes I'll

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 4>just switch persona you know, I guess. I don't know

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 4>if it's like code switching or what it's called when

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 4>you just like pretend to be someone else entirely. But

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm the same person. Why can't I just

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 4>be myself through that? You know?

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, I will say. I'll say this, Simon, I

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>think that give reviewing things is a way that is.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I can see why you would have more confidence, right,

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 1>because it takes a lot of confidence to write a review,

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to be, like, you know, to stand up against what

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you believe to be the injustice of you know, this

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Noodles and Company and the fact.

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 4>That Noodle place.

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I I understand why you would feel more

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>comfort more confident as the interviewer, I mean, not as

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the as the reviewer than as yourself. Why do you

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>feel unconfident as as just whatever your real name is.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. That's a good question. I think it's

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 4>because I've been myself. Let's say my real name is Alvin.

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 4>I think I've been Yeah, if I've been Alvin my

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 4>whole life, you know, picking up this new mask as Simon,

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it feels like it feels new. It

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 4>feels like a brand new court paint, you know, if

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 4>that makes any sense. I know what Alvin's like because

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 4>I've experienced Alvin my whole life. But Simon, Simon's Simon

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 4>will tell you what's wrong with you? Simon, will you know,

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 4>tell you, hey, uh you need to fix this, or hey,

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 4>this is how things are. But I don't know Alvin,

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I guess never picked up that skill.

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So Simon, So I get where you're coming from. And

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>let's explore this for a second. So uh, Simon, So

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Alvin is something that just kind of naturally developed. It

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>almost feels as though you didn't pick your personality. It

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>almost feels as though Simon is a blank slate. It's

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for you to create a persona meticulously, intentionally

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of the kind of person that you wish to embody.

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that accurate? Yeah, yeah, yeah, But why can't you

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>But what? But then, but then, why can't you just

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>treat your existing self? Why can't you just treat Alvin

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>as that slate? Why do you have to create a

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 1>new character when you can make intentional choices to change

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the character that you currently inhabit.

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, that's a good question. I've never I've

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 4>never thought about just being myself, not Simon, but like incorporating.

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, why don't you add Simon and Alvin together

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and divide them by two? Salvin be that person Salvin.

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>That could work.

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like we're I feel like

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you're about to enter your Salvin era.

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 4>I think I think so, I think so good.

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if what changes would would we make to

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Alvin to make him more Simony.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I guess Simon Simon's more direct, so

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 4>I guess Alvin could start being more direct, like Alvin

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 4>kind of avoids questions when he's asked that work, and

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 4>Simon's more like gives you straight answers, you know, like

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 4>earlier when I was like waiting and whatever and in

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 4>the chat and some I was like, hey, a lot

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 4>of people got a call to get on and I

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 4>just told the guy was like, no, I'm getting on

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 4>because I was like, that was not in confidence, you know,

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 4>but Alvin, Alvin doesn't have that.

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Alvin, let me ask you something. This is a serious question.

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>What do you wish to accomplish or to become that

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 1>you feel as though you need more confidence to do

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 1>before you get there.

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 4>I guess the thing that's the main thing that's that

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 4>would give me the confidence is still I guess something

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 4>like an action, an action? Uh, an action would be

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.399
<v Speaker 4>to leave my job?

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, what do you want to do?

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 4>I guess be a writer of some sort or a

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 4>reviewer of some sort. I mean I already am, but

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, like it's a real thing, not just so.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't get so. I don't get so you're like

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>a famous reviewer guy, right, but it's just on on

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>how many followers do you have?

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 4>Let me check? Hold on?

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I got away here.

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 4>It says I have six hundred and ten thousand right.

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Now, six hundred and ten thousand on what? On what?

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 4>That's just on Google?

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.720
<v Speaker 1>You have six hundred and ten thousand followers on Google? Yes,

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 1>you could you can make you can make as I

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like you can turn that into as much money

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>as you would make working at a grocery store. I

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know how, so, I mean, maybe you know what

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you should do, bro you Maybe maybe you need to

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>start selling T shirts?

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 4>What would I put in a review or T shirt? No?

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Simon says, you suck?

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you? Are you? Are you?

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 4>Are you gonna copyright? Are you gonna like sue me

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 4>if I used it?

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Am I gonna know? I want you to use that

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>that that that that is no use to me. It

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>only is used to you.

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that works. If I'm doubling down on Simon and

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 4>putting it on T shirts though, I'll just put it

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 4>on the front, Simon says, on the front, and then

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 4>on back I'll put like Alvin agrees too, or something

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 4>like that, and then people.

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I mean, nobody knows who Alvin is.

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 4>You're right, you're It wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't make sense.

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:51.839
<v Speaker 4>You're right, you're right. Scrab my scrab Who I am.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.720
<v Speaker 4>I'll double down on Simon, ok And then.

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, try and look try. I don't know, I feel

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>like you can try to make some money off of

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing if if you have, if you have people

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>who follow you and like what you.

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Do, Yeah, I think so too, thanks.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure, man, I don't know. There's a lot

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of stuff you get, do you fucking YouTube videos? You

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>can do affiliate marketing. Uh, I don't know, man, I

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I just give it a try. If that, if

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that's if that's what Simon would do is leave his

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>job to try to be go full time review guy.

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>There's there's there's all kinds of douchey internet review guys

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that make a ton of money saying that things suck.

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Why not you? Why not you? Alvin? Why not you?

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying.

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Why not me?

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll do that.

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 4>I probably won't quit my job because I'm about to

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 4>go to backs to Mexico. But soon.

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>When you go, you should get some til status.

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 4>Dude, No judge, it does in my house.

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 4>I'll look for something that can't make in my house

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 4>and get it and get it.

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Alvin, Yeah, Salvin, is there anything else you want to

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 1>say to the people of the computer before we go?

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Actually, uh, don't let where you come from define.

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Who you are.

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Where can I follow you on? How do I follow you.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 2>On Google? Yeah?

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna say. I don't want to talk to myself.

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 4>Come using fake identity? Uh, I'll oh you can't. You

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 4>can't follow me?

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, your fake identity is the same but you,

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>but you're not. It's not a fake you're The fake

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>identity that you're giving me right now is the same

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>as the fake identity that you have on that account.

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So where's the compromisation here?

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Because it because since I read you, a lot of

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 4>local businesses around me. I don't know if you've ever

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 4>seen like dateline and stuff. When they find mass murders

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 4>or killers or whatever, they like find out which businesses

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 4>they've by, like where they've killed people, and they like

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 4>triangulate that guy's location. Does that make any sense?

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that you've killed people?

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 4>No, no, But I'm afraid that if someone could like

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 4>triangulate the businesses where I've been and then like narrow

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 4>it down to like I don't know my house or something.

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sue you for the idea, but

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>if you do make a T shirt, you need to

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 1>send me one.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I will.

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 4>I'll make sure you get one.

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Kick Hey, take care of Simon.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Bye bye.

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm appreciate that guy just told us that he killed someone. Hello. Hello,

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 1>who is this?

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Hello?

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Hey? What's up?

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Man? Right?

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Is this Matthew?

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 1>What's going on? All right?

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to other

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh? I'm sorry, Ah, Yes, this is Matthew.

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Hey, what's up? Matthew?

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Matthew?

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You are you are you. I feel like I called you,

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like you were talking to me in

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>your sleep.

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Just now I was lying down. I just saw like

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 3>a weird number. I'm like, it's a spam. What is this?

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay my second answer? Yeah, right right. I've been

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>doing this thing where people just text my line and

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll call them back and I'm you know, it's a

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>it is they just get a phone call from a

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>random number. Yes, hey, Matthew thirty, you texted me and

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I called you because you said to me, I am

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a new railroader and the lifestyle is interesting.

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 3>It is very interesting.

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>What is a new railroader? What does that mean?

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 3>So basically, last December I went to a train school

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 3>where they basically put you up and teach you how

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:13.239
<v Speaker 3>to work on the railway. And then I spent like

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 3>six months in training and then now I'm out there

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 3>on my own doing railway stuff.

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you mastered in trains? Yeah yeah, well I guess Okay,

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>what's it like making trains?

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh? Well I am. I don't make train I'm a conductor.

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 3>So what I do is like I build certain trains,

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 3>like they'll give me paperwork and tell them so I'm

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 3>going to do. It's like it's sort of like it's

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 3>basically like a rail trucker in some cases, or like

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 3>a FedEx driver on rail. It just depends what I'm

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 3>going to be doing that day.

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Can I, you know, be honest with you about how

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel about trains?

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:57.399
<v Speaker 3>Good?

0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Good?

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:03.439
<v Speaker 1>We have cars that can go lots of places. Why

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 1>do we still use trains?

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Quantity?

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess there's no traffic on trains, really, you have

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to know.

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:18.399
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, a lot of its quantity and a lot

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 3>of his infrastructure because you can carry a lot more

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 3>in certain areas that you just can't do with trucks.

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much what it is. But side by side

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 3>they really work together and it's pretty decent.

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's a fun job.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Now tell me. Do people ever stow away on the

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 1>trains and you have to kick them out?

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 3>So I haven't caught anyone, but it is the thing

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 3>that happens. There's a guy on YouTube apparently as a

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 3>homeless dude, and all he does is just like hop

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 3>on our trains and record his the countries and stuff.

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Phone sit me one of his videos a while again.

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, eventually that guy is going to start making

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>big YouTube money and his train videos are gonna He's

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be hopping on a tracks instead of like

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, commercial trains.

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll get that money.

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.359
<v Speaker 1>That's see, that's a that's a that's a double edged

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>sword right there. Having a popular YouTube channel not being homeless,

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>because what do you Because if the YouTube channel get popper,

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna start making money and you won't be homeless anymore.

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 1>But people watch the videos because you were homeless.

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you never have to worry about that because

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you make trains the YouTube videos.

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I can do both, not really, And.

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 1>If you ever did lose your home, you could make

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>a train and live in that. Yeah, Matthew, have I

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>caught you? I feel like I've caught you in the

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>middle of having an affair in wife or something. You

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 1>seem very you seem like you seem I.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Was lying in bed about the fall sleep.

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 3>So if I found the oriento this probably because I

0:51:58.400 --> 0:51:59.760
<v Speaker 3>am that's okay.

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you want me to By the way, I'm not

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>offended at all. If you would rather be asleep than

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<v Speaker 1>talk to.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, I genuinely know it's fine. So right now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>at the part of the job. It's like, so they

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<v Speaker 3>basically I took a train from one place to a

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<v Speaker 3>certain place, So I'm at a certain place in a

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<v Speaker 3>hotel waiting for a call to be sent back home basically.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I'm in like some sort of like

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<v Speaker 3>limbo by purgatory waiting to go home. So I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>still up because I really don't want to fall asleep

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<v Speaker 3>so that I'm not groggy when they call me to

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<v Speaker 3>take a train back home.

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<v Speaker 1>I wait, so you don't want to be asleep right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of hoping they call me like the next

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<v Speaker 3>two hours, but they can honestly call me in between,

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<v Speaker 3>like I can be here for like another twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>hours or thirty hours.

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<v Speaker 1>If they called you right now, would you have to

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<v Speaker 1>hang up on may or would you hang up on them?

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<v Speaker 3>They don't like it when we don't pick up the phone,

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<v Speaker 3>so I probably put you on hold.

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<v Speaker 1>If you put me on hold, unfortunately, probably on the call.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair in less, if you wanted to, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I how about this, can we make it? Can we

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<v Speaker 1>make a deal if they call you, If they call you,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually you you just put them in on this call,

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<v Speaker 1>and I promise I won't like say anything. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, that makes me incredibly uncomfortable, so I would probably

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<v Speaker 3>just rescuge of not calling me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, That's what I would do too,

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<v Speaker 1>if I asked if I were you, and I asked

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<v Speaker 1>you that what kind of snacks do they have on

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<v Speaker 1>on on these trains that you're making to They have

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<v Speaker 1>a snack and.

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<v Speaker 3>What whatever whatever we bring they have like any machines

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<v Speaker 3>and like the little offices we go to together work

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. I brought a bag of like soups and

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<v Speaker 3>protein bars and trail mix and sandwich and rice and

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<v Speaker 3>tune up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really the lame. The one thing that America does

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<v Speaker 1>wrong that Australia and Europe does very well is the

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<v Speaker 1>snack carts on trains. You know, America, America, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to get a good snack cart installed in

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<v Speaker 1>a train so that this guy can you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>a nice hot bacon egg and cheese instead of his

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<v Speaker 1>tuna sandwich from home.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny. I gotta hang out now because

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<v Speaker 3>you're calling it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, well good talking to him, mate, call I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he gets a promotion to airplanes, goes.

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<v Speaker 3>On the line, taking your phone calls every nine

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<v Speaker 1>Dever beacon goes to and he's teaching you a loud

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<v Speaker 1>and