Speaker 1: Hello, what's going on? Ship?
Speaker 2: I think I'm at the gym right now, but obviously
Speaker 2: i'm picking you up over the gym right now?
Speaker 1: What gym are you at? What's the address?
Speaker 2: Playing fitness? Of course?
Speaker 1: Do they still serve pizza there on Fridays?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 2: So actually they have a tin near the instruments with
Speaker 2: the shittiest candy over. They either got tutsi rolls or
Speaker 2: like the the like purple Tootsy, the f fruities. I think, yeah, there,
Speaker 2: it's weird. We don't get pizza anymore.
Speaker 1: We just get girl the dentist office candy. What's your name?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 2: Dog? My name? God? This is I'm just gonna drop
Speaker 2: my my alias Blorty aka swim diaper on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Slim diaper, swim diaper, what's going on? Slim diaper? What
Speaker 1: is it? Lem day swim So like yeah, yeah, swim diaper.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's not like it's not arm D it's
Speaker 2: always cardiod.
Speaker 1: Oh it's always cardio.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I start popping e like estrogen and like spiro,
Speaker 2: which like like kills your tystosterone and shit. So like
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like doing that.
Speaker 1: Like girls saying are you are you transitioning?
Speaker 2: I just like to say I'm grown tests and my
Speaker 2: hair out.
Speaker 1: Cool. What how is your does estrogen grow hair?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I used to be like super
Speaker 2: jacked and then and then my first experience like a
Speaker 2: hormone blacker was an asteride if you know about an asteride.
Speaker 2: So because my hair was starting to thin at like
Speaker 2: twenty two and I got on it and then I
Speaker 2: was like, damn, like I really want like fucking long,
Speaker 2: pretty hair like over muscles. So I kind of switched
Speaker 2: up and now I'm going no muscle with hits and
Speaker 2: long hair.
Speaker 1: So what made you want to grow tits?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I just kind of like
Speaker 2: I could get really deep into it with the whole
Speaker 2: like tran sing, but like ultimately it's like, if you
Speaker 2: like really want to be like feminine, there's like kind
Speaker 2: of one side of things, and if you really want
Speaker 2: to be masks, and that's kind of another side of things,
Speaker 2: and I kind of wanted to be the more feminine
Speaker 2: side of things.
Speaker 1: Do you view a beautiful long hair to be a
Speaker 1: feminine trait?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, totally totally. I mean we're like designed as dudes,
Speaker 2: like like not have nice hair. You know we're supposed
Speaker 2: to have like body hair and shit or so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like long pretty hair is like totally a chicken thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like in my head at least.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll swim. I'm just I'm just going to call
Speaker 1: you swim. We'll swim. What did you want to talk
Speaker 1: about today?
Speaker 2: Okay? So, so I am like a very active member
Speaker 2: in the adult baby community aka a b d L.
Speaker 2: I got it tatted on my ass like hardcore and
Speaker 2: this ship hardcore in the scene, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: we like to go like there's parties all over the
Speaker 2: country at like either it's like a mansion or like
Speaker 2: a like an Airbnb mansion, and it's just a lot
Speaker 2: of us like cooler, like better to vibe with a
Speaker 2: b DLS that like are invited like forty people or so,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of party favors and you could
Speaker 2: probably guess with that is experimental party favorites too, and
Speaker 2: we all kind of just like every single person I
Speaker 2: was wearing a diaper, like like pissing in diapers, not shit,
Speaker 2: and just pissing in diapers and partying and like it's
Speaker 2: kind of like an orgy for like like a low
Speaker 2: key orgy, like you know, you're playing card games too,
Speaker 2: You're not just fucking you know, for like four days
Speaker 2: and then a few months later another one happens.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you ever catch any gnarly SGDs doing that?
Speaker 2: Well, So that's like the beauty of beautiful thing about diapers.
Speaker 2: It's not always like we're not always like having kind
Speaker 2: of regular intercourse. Like I don't know, we we all
Speaker 2: kind of like part of like being an adult baby
Speaker 2: and like being like a diaper fetishist is like you
Speaker 2: like the feeling of like like like pissing a diaper,
Speaker 2: which sounds like so weird, but like especially feels good
Speaker 2: on substances like swim.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that that sounds like there's an
Speaker 1: even greater opportunity to pass diseases.
Speaker 2: Oh really you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think adding piss and
Speaker 1: ship into the mix is probably all right, that's where
Speaker 1: you draw your line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's just like think about it, dude, Like
Speaker 2: we're regular people too. If you shit, if you sit
Speaker 2: in a diaper at a party, you're kind of killing
Speaker 2: the vibe for everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you hold on? Hold on I'm
Speaker 1: so confused. The whole point is that it's an orgy
Speaker 1: with a bunch of people in diapers pretending to be babies.
Speaker 1: But then if somebody, you know what I I just
Speaker 1: gotta say this, if I were attending one of these
Speaker 1: parties as a you know, like if I were into
Speaker 1: being a baby, and I would totally feel like it
Speaker 1: would be a place where I could take a shit
Speaker 1: in my diaper. That's the whole point of the whole
Speaker 1: point of wearing a diaper is to shit in it.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. So what like that's the line
Speaker 1: you everyone gets mad at him, dude, So.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is like a rule that's been like curated
Speaker 2: through like trial and error because of course as an aby, deal, Like,
Speaker 2: if you ask me, have I shat in a diaper?
Speaker 2: As an adult, of course I have. Does it like smell
Speaker 2: like shit like in the whole room? Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: totally not the vibe. So if you think about it,
Speaker 2: if you've got like a party of like forty people,
Speaker 2: and people are like dancing like some people are you know,
Speaker 2: like eating some candy. Some people are like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: making out, Like you don't want an automate like all
Speaker 2: of a sudden like smell like shit. You know, so
Speaker 2: I feel like it kills the vibe. So I get
Speaker 2: where you're coming from. But I kind of disagree, you know, I.
Speaker 1: I I feel like the lines you draw are arbitrary.
Speaker 1: But I digress.
Speaker 3: Where do you.
Speaker 1: How long you've been doing this for.
Speaker 2: The probably been in the community for like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like four or five years. But the thing about like
Speaker 2: a b DLS is we've all been into this shit
Speaker 2: like without knowing each other since basically birth, which sounds weird,
Speaker 2: but it's like true, that.
Speaker 1: Sounds actually it actually it makes perfect sense. You were
Speaker 1: really into being a baby since you were a baby.
Speaker 2: Wow, it was a fuck, that's damn. I didn't think
Speaker 2: about it like that.
Speaker 1: I think I feel like I know more about being
Speaker 1: a baby than honestly, Well, you have.
Speaker 2: An outside point of view. It's a it's a great
Speaker 2: perspective you have. You know. I don't get to get
Speaker 2: this perspective often because I don't tell like regular people.
Speaker 1: You know, why don't you tell regular people?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, think about it. You know you're at
Speaker 2: the bar, you know you're meeting you meet a cute
Speaker 2: chick or something. Or whatever, and you know, you tell
Speaker 2: her you like to like piss and type like, it
Speaker 2: probably reduces your chances a little bit. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of one of those things that we keep amongst ourselves
Speaker 2: because people get fired from jobs and shit and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Like it's it's better just to keep this
Speaker 2: shit like private and tucked away.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know what, sure, if you're talking
Speaker 1: to a girl at a bar and you tell her
Speaker 1: that you like to piss in a diaper, there's a
Speaker 1: ninety nine point chance that she's going to be turned
Speaker 1: off by that.
Speaker 2: But I'd reduce that number a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'd reduce there's there's a zero point zero, zero one
Speaker 1: percent chance that she's going to be extremely turned on
Speaker 1: by it.
Speaker 2: Damn. Well, see that's this is my thinking. Actually, I
Speaker 2: think you're very smart. I think you're onto something. I'm
Speaker 2: on the same thing. So I got it tatted the
Speaker 2: acronym on my ass because if you know, you know,
Speaker 2: if you see the acrom after nam and it means
Speaker 2: nothing to you, it means nothing to you. So I'm
Speaker 2: one step ahead of you.
Speaker 1: What's the acronym?
Speaker 3: Oh A B D l ah.
Speaker 1: There you go, and it's on your ass too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, my girlfriend. Now, I guess you could say,
Speaker 2: well legally my wife, but I call her my girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I had to marry her because I was going to
Speaker 2: talk about this too. I had to marry her because
Speaker 2: we found out her visa was kind of expired.
Speaker 1: So where's she from?
Speaker 2: Canada?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is she also a baby person?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, definitely very much. Uh yeah, yeah, I met
Speaker 2: her at a convention. Yeah, and her ex actually saw
Speaker 2: me and thought that was how I wanted to fuck me.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how she came to like acknowledge
Speaker 2: my existence.
Speaker 1: Do you guys swing?
Speaker 2: So I can't, but like I'm into like I think
Speaker 2: it's hot, like if she like occasionally like fucks other people.
Speaker 2: But it's I don't know, it sounds like weird, but
Speaker 2: it's totally not.
Speaker 1: You have a one sided open relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called being a cook.
Speaker 1: Okay, how long you've been into doing that for?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing about like Fetishit is like I've
Speaker 2: probably like gotten off to it for like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like eight years now, but I like dove in within
Speaker 2: like the last year or so, and it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: It kind of makes you feel like a fucking loser.
Speaker 2: But it sucks because.
Speaker 1: You think it's hot so well, but isn't feeling like
Speaker 1: a fucking loser part of the experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, but it's like I don't know, I
Speaker 2: explained this some of like my girl is. It's like
Speaker 2: it's kind of like getting spanked or something like because
Speaker 2: you like it doesn't mean it doesn't also hurt.
Speaker 1: You know, hm, tell me more about being a cook.
Speaker 2: So I like begged my chick to like get a
Speaker 2: like a dating app or something, and what do you know,
Speaker 2: She's banned from Tinder. So we had the resort to bumble,
Speaker 2: and you know, she she got to slipe in, uh,
Speaker 2: started talking to some dudes and like she's like telling
Speaker 2: me like the messages and shit, and I think it's hot.
Speaker 2: I fucking hate that I think it's hot. But you know,
Speaker 2: like I definitely have definitely jerked off, like some of
Speaker 2: the messages beflunch and that's I feel so lame doing that.
Speaker 2: But so anyways, yeah, I I've gotten turned on to it,
Speaker 2: and then eventually, you know, it ends up happening, and
Speaker 2: actually it really pissed me off, Like I felt like
Speaker 2: a I felt like a loser, you know, And I
Speaker 2: felt like kind of like she obviously wasn't cheating on me,
Speaker 2: but it kind of like felt like that in a way.
Speaker 2: And but at the same time, like I was turned on.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like a shitty situation. But
Speaker 2: then time goes on and all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't want like I got over that part, Like
Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not insecure about that part much anymore.
Speaker 2: Like I know she wants me, she doesn't want some
Speaker 2: like fucking loser, like you know. So, but it hurts
Speaker 2: at first, being a coup.
Speaker 1: It hurts the first Do you wish that it didn't
Speaker 1: turn you on?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: M How many times do you do when she has
Speaker 1: like has she when she hooks up with these guys?
Speaker 1: Are you in the room with her?
Speaker 2: Nah, So that hasn't happened yet. You got to get
Speaker 2: some like serious falls to have that happened. I'm like
Speaker 2: kind of scared of like diving into it too much.
Speaker 2: It's okay, so hold up, backtrack. It's been over the phone,
Speaker 2: like she's had her phone on and and I've heard
Speaker 2: like the whole interaction. I want to like see it
Speaker 2: and stuff, but I don't think I could be there,
Speaker 2: And I think that's just pushing it like too far,
Speaker 2: because like realistically speaking, like it's like a can of
Speaker 2: worms opening sort of situation, you know, And I don't
Speaker 2: want to like to really fuck up my like sexuality.
Speaker 2: So it's already so fucking twisted. So how are you
Speaker 2: being very careful with that?
Speaker 1: How do you feel like you would fuck up your sexuality?
Speaker 2: So, I mean there's kind of like like having a
Speaker 2: relationship with somebody and being a cock like kind of
Speaker 2: contradicts itself because you want the person like fuck somebody else.
Speaker 2: So like while some people might think like being an
Speaker 2: abdl's like a lot weirder, Like I'm more comfortable like
Speaker 2: diving into that than I am, like tuck stuff because
Speaker 2: I don't want it to like fuck up my relationship.
Speaker 2: But I do think like dipping my toes in a
Speaker 2: little bit is preventing me from like diving way too deep,
Speaker 2: and it's also preventing me from like not getting to
Speaker 2: experience it. So it's like a safe medium just the
Speaker 2: occasional dick.
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to a therapist about this?
Speaker 2: Now you're the first one. No, I have not.
Speaker 1: Where do you think this fetish comes from?
Speaker 2: The cuck one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the okay av DL the source is more clear.
Speaker 2: So basically this is just kind of like the a
Speaker 2: commonly said thing like amongst av dls, it's like all
Speaker 2: the dudes are autistic and all the chicks have VPD
Speaker 2: and it kind of holds true. So I think I
Speaker 2: have something to do with that. It's definitely like a
Speaker 2: neurodiversion thing, like you don't get into this ship like
Speaker 2: being uh, it's neurotypical at all. You gotta have you
Speaker 2: gotta have something like twisted in your mind and like
Speaker 2: the cuck stuff. One time, I like manically got obsessive
Speaker 2: and like I've like convinced myself that like my ex
Speaker 2: like cheated on me, and then like slowly over time
Speaker 2: after like thinking about it, think about it, like hating it,
Speaker 2: hating it. This is like four or five years ago,
Speaker 2: like eventually I started like the idea. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 2: often it's kind of sad. So I heard the dude
Speaker 2: like three times people ago, and I really hope he
Speaker 2: doesn't hear this. I hope he's not tuned in. But
Speaker 2: I really hope that doesn't awaken a cuckhold fetish for him.
Speaker 2: But that is like a scenario where like something like
Speaker 2: that would happen.
Speaker 1: So your ex cheated on you and.
Speaker 2: I went, I went mentally manically crazy. I had it decent,
Speaker 2: like if I could, I could pitch to you the
Speaker 2: manic story, but it's like pointless. But I convinced myself
Speaker 2: that she had cheated on me.
Speaker 1: You convinced yourself that she had cheated on you, and
Speaker 1: then that awakened within you a fantasy that she did,
Speaker 1: and then that fantasy manifested itself as sexually pleasurable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: M So, I mean it is so is your girlfriend
Speaker 1: is so? Is is that true? Is your girlfriend BPD
Speaker 1: and you're autistic?
Speaker 2: Uh? Like so the thing is like obviously everybody's not
Speaker 2: like this super horrible BPD or and the dudes are
Speaker 2: like super horrible horribly like autistic. But like the I
Speaker 2: do I definitely show like autistic symptoms And does my
Speaker 2: girl definitely show strong DPD slash autistic symptoms? Yeah totally.
Speaker 2: But I guess it's not like like I wasn't any
Speaker 2: special classes or some shit, not to like Discole's classes
Speaker 2: and shit, but I was I wasn't well.
Speaker 1: Look everything aside, I mean, how old are you? I'm
Speaker 1: twenty seven, okay, I mean how are you?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you like life?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I've had a lot of ups and downs with that,
Speaker 2: like since I was probably like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: twenty one, I got very depressed like for years and shit,
Speaker 2: but like kind of rolling with but ironically, like that
Speaker 2: was at that time when I was not really like
Speaker 2: being true to myself. And yeah, I would say, like
Speaker 2: life is like improved a lot, and I feel a
Speaker 2: lot better about myself, especially even in like my vanilla life,
Speaker 2: just because of the fact that I'm like doing these
Speaker 2: things that I've always wanted to do, so like involving
Speaker 2: myself into like Avid Yell and like partying with like
Speaker 2: super cool people that are like awesome, and like getting
Speaker 2: to experience like tuck stuff all this. It's like it's
Speaker 2: like it's it's I don't know, it's been a little
Speaker 2: like I guess like pep in my step you could say,
Speaker 2: in like my vanilla life. So currently I would say,
Speaker 2: like I'm definitely feeling a lot better about my life
Speaker 2: than like I was a couple of years ago like
Speaker 2: a million percent, but I would say I'm still a
Speaker 2: little bit depressed, but so much better. So this stuff
Speaker 2: is ironically like helped a little bit, like for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean I was gonna say, like, you know,
Speaker 1: societal conventions aside. I feel like these things are a
Speaker 1: matter of you know, if if the individual is benefiting
Speaker 1: from them. And it sounds as though from everything you've
Speaker 1: told me that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: This stuff has been good for you by your own.
Speaker 2: Definition, yea, yeah, definitely, I mean it's definitely been good
Speaker 2: for me, And I think like it gets such a
Speaker 2: bad rep like online, but because like very often, like
Speaker 2: the people that are lengths like say go on to
Speaker 2: TV shows or like go on to like stuff like this,
Speaker 2: et cetera, are like the people that are like crazy
Speaker 2: because most of the cool a b DL is like
Speaker 2: have the common sense to like not call in but
Speaker 2: like but you know, like I'm stupid, I'm stupid as ship,
Speaker 2: but I'm also like cool enough, so like you're you're
Speaker 2: you're very fortunate to have like a real look through
Speaker 2: me of like a regular A b DAL. There's there's
Speaker 2: people in a by d L in in very high
Speaker 2: corporate positions incredibly rich people, incredibly successful people like I
Speaker 2: would say actually more successful than average. And also I
Speaker 2: would say a lot of the people in tech.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, of course that makes fortune kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean every when you walk down the street, you know,
Speaker 1: there's like there's the subconscious and all that stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: and when you walk down the street, you know, you
Speaker 1: can just look at someone and they're probably reallyant. You know,
Speaker 1: you walk past at least every day, you walk past
Speaker 1: at least five different people who like getting shat on
Speaker 1: their chest.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's beautiful to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know, Yeah, I understand, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean this stuff getting a hate online, right, like
Speaker 1: the cook stuff and the ABDL stuff. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I'd like to think most people share the sentiment socially,
Speaker 1: politically whatever. They share the sentiment that human beings should
Speaker 1: be able to do whatever they want as long as
Speaker 1: they don't interfere with other human beings' ability to also
Speaker 1: do whatever they want. There's varying interpretations of what counts
Speaker 1: as interference. You know, some people are like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if you, you know, pretend to be a baby, you
Speaker 1: spit in the face of God, which is an interference
Speaker 1: of you know, to me or something like that. But
Speaker 1: most people, I think, don't give a fuck what other
Speaker 1: people do as long as it doesn't affect them.
Speaker 2: I would I hate to say this one man, I
Speaker 2: hate to say this. I disagree with you a little
Speaker 2: bit because like in my experience, like and just seeing
Speaker 2: comments and kind of like being around this, like in
Speaker 2: this position, you hear that sort of perspective, but and
Speaker 2: you like hope that's true. But then very often people
Speaker 2: will be like, oh, but that's too fucking weird. Man,
Speaker 2: that's too fucking weird. That like that can't be allowed.
Speaker 2: We've pushed the ball too far shit like that. And
Speaker 2: it's and it's sad too because it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff like fighting for acceptance. It's
Speaker 2: like kind of shoving your face, and like av DL
Speaker 2: is kind of something that like we want it to
Speaker 2: be behind closed doors. We just don't want like we
Speaker 2: kind of think like, hey, like if if you accidentally
Speaker 2: find out somehow that like somebody who employs happens to
Speaker 2: be in a b d L, although he tried to
Speaker 2: hide it, like it's.
Speaker 1: Almost well, I think here's what, well, you have a thing,
Speaker 1: you have a Here's the thing with the av DL
Speaker 1: that you have going strongly against you is that Look, obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that everybody in this community is an adult,
Speaker 1: but I I people understandably have reservations about uh, you know,
Speaker 1: even if it's two consenting adults, reservations about folks who
Speaker 1: are into like age play, like oh well, because no,
Speaker 1: there's no more hated person in the world than a
Speaker 1: person than a person who wants to fuck babies.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd have to agree with you there, and I
Speaker 2: have to agree with you there.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: It is kind of on an unfortunate uh uh thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the position that we've got ourselves in. But obviously, like
Speaker 2: I explained, like very much so has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the other. But yeah, what are we What am
Speaker 2: I supposed to do to shake that? You know? But
Speaker 2: it's totally all like two adults things. If anything, most
Speaker 2: people in AVDL are kind of searching for like a
Speaker 2: little mommy daddy situation. And that isn't exactly like an
Speaker 2: eight year old like a mommy, like a mommy's like
Speaker 2: third you too.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I here's it.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think you can choose what
Speaker 1: the fuck goes on in your brain. You know, you
Speaker 1: can choose what you act on, and you can choose
Speaker 1: what you try to think about and stuff, But I
Speaker 1: don't think you can choose what's going on in your brain.
Speaker 1: So like, look, if something in your brain wants to
Speaker 1: fuck your mom, you didn't choose that. That's just that's just.
Speaker 1: But but you, as an enlightened twenty first century human being,
Speaker 1: make the informed decision, which I think is a good one,
Speaker 1: to not fuck your mom and instead fuck a stranger
Speaker 1: that is of age and consenting that pretends to be
Speaker 1: your mom.
Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody actually wants to Actually, I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna totally agree with you. Yeah, but obviously
Speaker 2: it goes without saying like we don't actually want to
Speaker 2: fuck our moms. We just like the position, the dynamic.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you knew that though I know I
Speaker 2: know what you were saying.
Speaker 1: What that. No, I didn't, I mean, I don't. I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I Look, there's all I don't
Speaker 1: know what's out there, right, I don't know what's out
Speaker 1: there and but a.
Speaker 2: Girl has definitely called you daddy.
Speaker 1: Hold on, since when was any of this about me? Swim?
Speaker 2: Hey know, I don't mean to I don't mean to
Speaker 2: spin it around, but you have been called daddy. I
Speaker 2: have also been called daddy. It's just a little little stronger.
Speaker 2: I guess you could say.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's about time Prefstar to wrap this up. Swim.
Speaker 2: Thanks for paper on Instagram, swimper on Instagram.
Speaker 1: See you know, I gotta tell you have a lot
Speaker 1: of buck because not only are you calling it you
Speaker 1: you said something like people are crazy enough to call in,
Speaker 1: but not only are you calling in, you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram. I mean, go for it. You're
Speaker 1: not stupid here. I don't know what you are, but
Speaker 1: I hope you have a good rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Hey man, it's great talking to you is great.
Speaker 1: Good talking to Swim. Is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the universe before we go?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, fuck bitches and get money rock and roll.
Speaker 1: Have a good one, Swim all rights? Uh was that
Speaker 1: conversation too fucked up? Hello?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is this?
Speaker 4: Sorry? I got to get out of my house.
Speaker 2: Sleep.
Speaker 1: What's your name Buco, Oh, my name Simon Simon, like
Speaker 1: one of that's like the chipmunk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a chipmunk.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of fucked that. I think Alvin's
Speaker 1: the youngest, right, and yet he's the front man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm outside now.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I know you don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: about any of that or what I just said, So
Speaker 1: let's talk about you. No, no, no, you don't and you
Speaker 1: don't have to lie to me, and I prefer a
Speaker 1: few didn't. But I don't give a fuck about what
Speaker 1: I just said either, none of us do. It's not
Speaker 1: the sacred Simon Simon. You said you texted me a
Speaker 1: bunch of things. Let's talk about Oh yeah, the first way, uh,
Speaker 1: you said to me, let's talk about it. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of these things. But you also,
Speaker 1: here's the first one. You said, I want to talk
Speaker 1: about a fake persona I assume on occasion that has
Speaker 1: gotten me recognition on a national level. What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So a couple of years ago, maybe twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: my wife and I went to a business. It was
Speaker 4: a comic book store, actually worse service ever, Like I
Speaker 4: walked in like I was like, gave me attitude a
Speaker 4: little bit, well, not even add to it. He just
Speaker 4: didn't he didn't even look us in the eye or
Speaker 4: like we were in New we like the area. So like
Speaker 4: I was offended. And as I was walking out, I
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I'm gonna leave this guy
Speaker 4: a bad review on Google. And so I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to use my real name, you know,
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'll use the name Simon. So
Speaker 4: this Simon's not my real name, but you know you
Speaker 4: probably knew that. So I use the name Simon and
Speaker 4: I reviewed this place. And then over the years, I
Speaker 4: progressively just like started reviewing random businesses that I went
Speaker 4: to Right, and I eventually, over the course of like years,
Speaker 4: my reviews started getting like more views on Google, and
Speaker 4: I would just like copy it and paste that onto
Speaker 4: Yelp at the same time. So then I was getting
Speaker 4: recognition on both Right and Yelp has this like thing
Speaker 4: I guess were like if you like, uh, sorry sound
Speaker 4: shaky by the way I get inside, but uh, they
Speaker 4: have this thing where like if you're a top reviewer,
Speaker 4: they'll like invite you to like events and like the
Speaker 4: city you're from or like your area. So they started
Speaker 4: inviting me to like Houston events because I I'm around Houston.
Speaker 4: So they're like, uh, you know this business is opening,
Speaker 4: and uh, we're willing to invite you. But they needed
Speaker 4: a verified profile, right, But I wasn't gonna upload my
Speaker 4: my face like instead of like coming clean, I just
Speaker 4: like I just doubled down on the on the lie
Speaker 4: and I went on like an AI generated website and
Speaker 4: I made like a I just like generated a generic
Speaker 4: Hispanic guy because I'm Hispanic, and uh, I uploaded that
Speaker 4: and I like got verified, like kind of in a
Speaker 4: sketchy way where I just like putting a fake phone number, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 4: and they stun't started sending me invites to all these
Speaker 4: like events in Houston, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. So then I like
Speaker 4: stop posting on Yelp. And then on Google, I just
Speaker 4: kept posting my reviews and eventually I got to like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, five million views a month or something,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: I still have this profile.
Speaker 4: But basically Google just constantly reminds me that like, hey,
Speaker 4: your reviews are getting more recognition. You should upload more,
Speaker 4: you should upload more and I'm like, man, that's not
Speaker 4: even me, you know, and then like not even like
Speaker 4: just on Google, but like in general when them out
Speaker 4: places and someone asked me for my name, so I
Speaker 4: want to give my little name, so I just like
Speaker 4: say I'm Simon, and then Simon's more confident, you know. Sorry,
Speaker 4: if I'm like the rambling, is there any anything I
Speaker 4: should be saying? Or I'm like, did this is connecting?
Speaker 1: Why did your reviews go viral? What is it about
Speaker 1: them that kept out?
Speaker 4: They're really they're they're they're really detailed there. For example,
Speaker 4: I'll upload photos. A lot of people when they review things,
Speaker 4: they never upload photos. When I go to like places,
Speaker 4: I'll like take pictures of menus and and uh like
Speaker 4: the surrounding areas and stuff, and a lot of people
Speaker 4: don't do that. And a lot of my photos are
Speaker 4: you know, really detailed in terms of like I I.
Speaker 1: The funny reviews, like people.
Speaker 3: Know, they're very like.
Speaker 4: They're very like, uh detailed, like everything that's on the menu,
Speaker 4: if it's affordable, this and.
Speaker 1: That, you know what, what's the worst and you review anything?
Speaker 1: This is just businesses in general?
Speaker 4: Yeah, any any place that I.
Speaker 1: Just go all the worst place you've ever reviewed, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the most scathing review you've ever written?
Speaker 4: I think it's a hotel in Mexico that I went to.
Speaker 1: Why was it so terrible?
Speaker 4: Uh? Uh Well, when we got there, I had to
Speaker 4: like lock up some documents, and uh the lady was like,
Speaker 4: like as soon as we walked in, the lady was like, ah,
Speaker 4: like it was a chore. So I was like, we
Speaker 4: really needed to walk up these documents, like they're important, right,
Speaker 4: And the lady was like, all right, let me get
Speaker 4: a manager. So she gets to go get the manager, right,
Speaker 4: and then I wait for like thirty minutes to an hour,
Speaker 4: I remember it was a while, and then they get
Speaker 4: the manager comes down and the guy's like all right,
Speaker 4: let's do this, and then take me to like this
Speaker 4: sketchy back area behind the counter where they have the
Speaker 4: lock boxes. I guess they're like security deposit boxes or something.
Speaker 4: And the guy can't open it, and the guy's like,
Speaker 4: it's cool with just like Hammick. The documents. I was like, uh,
Speaker 4: I can't just hand you these like sensitive documents because
Speaker 4: they were like legal documents, and he was like, uh okay,
Speaker 4: He's like, well, I can't give you a lock box
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, well can I get my
Speaker 4: deposit back? And they're like sorry. I was like, oh okay,
Speaker 4: Oh what am I gonna do? I'm in Mexico, you know.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't much.
Speaker 4: It was like I don't know, sixty pences or something.
Speaker 4: And then uh, like whenever I got my hotel room,
Speaker 4: there was nobody else at this hotel. By the way,
Speaker 4: it was like three floors. Though for some reason, they
Speaker 4: put me like on the third floor, and uh, they
Speaker 4: put me on the one hall. They had like no
Speaker 4: lights on in the hallways, like the lights are all out,
Speaker 4: so it made it feel extra sketchy, and it's like
Speaker 4: they could have put me like on the first floor something.
Speaker 4: Probably only want to die.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you Is this your full time job?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, I actually work at a grocery store,
Speaker 4: which is a whole other thing.
Speaker 1: And I haven't been able to How have you haven't
Speaker 1: been able to monetize this? There's all there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of like professional douchebag review people who write for magazines
Speaker 1: and whatever.
Speaker 4: I think it's more about the it's not it's not
Speaker 4: and none of it's under my name, my real name.
Speaker 4: I don't know how like that affects, Like can I
Speaker 4: run a business without it being my real name? You know,
Speaker 4: but like the legality of it.
Speaker 1: I guess that would be I guess. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what Banksy does. He's he's rich.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess so. But I'm already like and
Speaker 4: like I can't get involved with shady things because because
Speaker 4: I'm I'm like in the process of getting something fixed.
Speaker 4: So like if I get involved in shady things, then
Speaker 4: then that won't come through.
Speaker 1: You know, what is that? What do you mean You're
Speaker 1: in the process of getting something fixed.
Speaker 4: Well, like I'm getting my my citizenship, and like in
Speaker 4: order to get my citizenship in the US, I had
Speaker 4: to like go through to get my uh my permanent residency.
Speaker 4: But in order to get my permanent residency, I had
Speaker 4: to like apply are you are you from?
Speaker 1: Are you from Mexico?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I am, you know originally, so.
Speaker 1: Between between the US and Mexico. As a professional judger
Speaker 1: of things, which which place has shittier stuff?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Man, Oh that's a hard one. Part of me wants
Speaker 4: to say, obviously Mexico. But it's more affordable there, you know,
Speaker 4: it depends food. Food, Mexico obviously wins genuine leather leather
Speaker 4: items and like craftsmanship items, I guess Mexico, but like
Speaker 4: more manufactured and technology items. I would say the US probably.
Speaker 1: M You know I have I've always had a great
Speaker 1: disdain for reviewers.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go I'm about to go off on you, Simon.
Speaker 1: I've always had a great disdain for reviewers because you know,
Speaker 1: all these like a movie review people, art review people,
Speaker 1: food review people. Because I mean, typically a reviewer unless
Speaker 1: if it's like somebody who was in the industry of
Speaker 1: the thing they're reviewing and contributed to that industry for
Speaker 1: a while and then comes back with a particular expertise,
Speaker 1: I'm almost kind of like, well, shut the fuck out.
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't do anything. You know, at least
Speaker 1: this person did. You know, they tried to cook something,
Speaker 1: or they tried to make a movie or a hotel,
Speaker 1: or at least they tried to you know, they contributed something,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean a review it doesn't really contribute anything.
Speaker 4: Is this like a kind of like well, like for example,
Speaker 4: if if someone cleans your house, do you expect their
Speaker 4: house to be clean or do you just respect the
Speaker 4: profession that they're cleaning your house.
Speaker 1: If somebody cleans your house, do you expect their house
Speaker 1: to be if somebody cleans my house, are you I
Speaker 1: don't understand.
Speaker 4: What do you expect their house, their personal home to
Speaker 4: be clean because you're the person should be No?
Speaker 1: No, no, I just I only care if they're able
Speaker 1: to clean my I guess if I pay somebody to
Speaker 1: clean my house, I only care if they are able
Speaker 1: to successfully clean my house. I don't care what's going
Speaker 1: on with any other aspect of their personal cleanliness.
Speaker 4: I see, I see.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess I'm like a professional online douchebag in
Speaker 4: a way, not intentionally. Just yes, but then all no, no,
Speaker 4: not all My reviews are scathingly bad though.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Simon, Yeah, so am I.
Speaker 2: That's fair?
Speaker 1: You also talking about this, you said I've been working
Speaker 1: at a grocery store for ten years to get confidence
Speaker 1: from not being myself. What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Oh, sometimes I'll pretend to be Simon at work to
Speaker 4: be more confident, if that makes any sense. Okay, the
Speaker 4: person who I am isn't as confident, so sometimes I'll
Speaker 4: just switch persona you know, I guess. I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's like code switching or what it's called when
Speaker 4: you just like pretend to be someone else entirely. But
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm the same person. Why can't I just
Speaker 4: be myself through that? You know?
Speaker 1: You know, I will say. I'll say this, Simon, I
Speaker 1: think that give reviewing things is a way that is.
Speaker 1: I can see why you would have more confidence, right,
Speaker 1: because it takes a lot of confidence to write a review,
Speaker 1: to be, like, you know, to stand up against what
Speaker 1: you believe to be the injustice of you know, this
Speaker 1: Noodles and Company and the fact.
Speaker 4: That Noodle place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I understand why you would feel more
Speaker 1: comfort more confident as the interviewer, I mean, not as
Speaker 1: the as the reviewer than as yourself. Why do you
Speaker 1: feel unconfident as as just whatever your real name is.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's a good question. I think it's
Speaker 4: because I've been myself. Let's say my real name is Alvin.
Speaker 4: I think I've been Yeah, if I've been Alvin my
Speaker 4: whole life, you know, picking up this new mask as Simon,
Speaker 4: I don't know, it feels like it feels new. It
Speaker 4: feels like a brand new court paint, you know, if
Speaker 4: that makes any sense. I know what Alvin's like because
Speaker 4: I've experienced Alvin my whole life. But Simon, Simon's Simon
Speaker 4: will tell you what's wrong with you? Simon, will you know,
Speaker 4: tell you, hey, uh you need to fix this, or hey,
Speaker 4: this is how things are. But I don't know Alvin,
Speaker 4: I guess never picked up that skill.
Speaker 1: So Simon, So I get where you're coming from. And
Speaker 1: let's explore this for a second. So uh, Simon, So
Speaker 1: Alvin is something that just kind of naturally developed. It
Speaker 1: almost feels as though you didn't pick your personality. It
Speaker 1: almost feels as though Simon is a blank slate. It's
Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to create a persona meticulously, intentionally
Speaker 1: of the kind of person that you wish to embody.
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? Yeah, yeah, yeah, But why can't you
Speaker 1: But what? But then, but then, why can't you just
Speaker 1: treat your existing self? Why can't you just treat Alvin
Speaker 1: as that slate? Why do you have to create a
Speaker 1: new character when you can make intentional choices to change
Speaker 1: the character that you currently inhabit.
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's a good question. I've never I've
Speaker 4: never thought about just being myself, not Simon, but like incorporating.
Speaker 1: You know, why don't you add Simon and Alvin together
Speaker 1: and divide them by two? Salvin be that person Salvin.
Speaker 2: That could work.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we're I feel like
Speaker 1: you're about to enter your Salvin era.
Speaker 4: I think I think so, I think so good.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if what changes would would we make to
Speaker 1: Alvin to make him more Simony.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess Simon Simon's more direct, so
Speaker 4: I guess Alvin could start being more direct, like Alvin
Speaker 4: kind of avoids questions when he's asked that work, and
Speaker 4: Simon's more like gives you straight answers, you know, like
Speaker 4: earlier when I was like waiting and whatever and in
Speaker 4: the chat and some I was like, hey, a lot
Speaker 4: of people got a call to get on and I
Speaker 4: just told the guy was like, no, I'm getting on
Speaker 4: because I was like, that was not in confidence, you know,
Speaker 4: but Alvin, Alvin doesn't have that.
Speaker 1: Alvin, let me ask you something. This is a serious question.
Speaker 1: What do you wish to accomplish or to become that
Speaker 1: you feel as though you need more confidence to do
Speaker 1: before you get there.
Speaker 4: I guess the thing that's the main thing that's that
Speaker 4: would give me the confidence is still I guess something
Speaker 4: like an action, an action? Uh, an action would be
Speaker 4: to leave my job?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, what do you want to do?
Speaker 4: I guess be a writer of some sort or a
Speaker 4: reviewer of some sort. I mean I already am, but
Speaker 4: you know, like it's a real thing, not just so.
Speaker 1: I don't get so. I don't get so you're like
Speaker 1: a famous reviewer guy, right, but it's just on on
Speaker 1: how many followers do you have?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Let me check? Hold on?
Speaker 2: I got away here.
Speaker 4: It says I have six hundred and ten thousand right.
Speaker 1: Now, six hundred and ten thousand on what? On what?
Speaker 4: That's just on Google?
Speaker 1: You have six hundred and ten thousand followers on Google? Yes,
Speaker 1: you could you can make you can make as I
Speaker 1: feel like you can turn that into as much money
Speaker 1: as you would make working at a grocery store. I
Speaker 1: don't know how, so, I mean, maybe you know what
Speaker 1: you should do, bro you Maybe maybe you need to
Speaker 1: start selling T shirts?
Speaker 4: What would I put in a review or T shirt? No?
Speaker 1: Simon says, you suck?
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you? Are you?
Speaker 4: Are you gonna copyright? Are you gonna like sue me
Speaker 4: if I used it?
Speaker 1: Am I gonna know? I want you to use that
Speaker 1: that that that that is no use to me. It
Speaker 1: only is used to you.
Speaker 4: Okay, that works. If I'm doubling down on Simon and
Speaker 4: putting it on T shirts though, I'll just put it
Speaker 4: on the front, Simon says, on the front, and then
Speaker 4: on back I'll put like Alvin agrees too, or something
Speaker 4: like that, and then people.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, nobody knows who Alvin is.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: You're right, you're It wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 4: You're right, you're right. Scrab my scrab Who I am.
Speaker 4: I'll double down on Simon, ok And then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, try and look try. I don't know, I feel
Speaker 1: like you can try to make some money off of
Speaker 1: this thing if if you have, if you have people
Speaker 1: who follow you and like what you.
Speaker 4: Do, Yeah, I think so too, thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, man, I don't know. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff you get, do you fucking YouTube videos? You
Speaker 1: can do affiliate marketing. Uh, I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: mean I just give it a try. If that, if
Speaker 1: that's if that's what Simon would do is leave his
Speaker 1: job to try to be go full time review guy.
Speaker 1: There's there's there's all kinds of douchey internet review guys
Speaker 1: that make a ton of money saying that things suck.
Speaker 1: Why not you? Why not you? Alvin? Why not you?
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Why not me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do that.
Speaker 4: I probably won't quit my job because I'm about to
Speaker 4: go to backs to Mexico. But soon.
Speaker 1: When you go, you should get some til status.
Speaker 4: Dude, No judge, it does in my house.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'll look for something that can't make in my house
Speaker 4: and get it and get it.
Speaker 1: Alvin, Yeah, Salvin, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Actually, uh, don't let where you come from define.
Speaker 2: Who you are.
Speaker 1: Where can I follow you on? How do I follow you.
Speaker 2: On Google? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say. I don't want to talk to myself.
Speaker 4: Come using fake identity? Uh, I'll oh you can't. You
Speaker 4: can't follow me?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, your fake identity is the same but you,
Speaker 1: but you're not. It's not a fake you're The fake
Speaker 1: identity that you're giving me right now is the same
Speaker 1: as the fake identity that you have on that account.
Speaker 1: So where's the compromisation here?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Because it because since I read you, a lot of
Speaker 4: local businesses around me. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 4: seen like dateline and stuff. When they find mass murders
Speaker 4: or killers or whatever, they like find out which businesses
Speaker 4: they've by, like where they've killed people, and they like
Speaker 4: triangulate that guy's location. Does that make any sense?
Speaker 1: Are you saying that you've killed people?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, But I'm afraid that if someone could like
Speaker 4: triangulate the businesses where I've been and then like narrow
Speaker 4: it down to like I don't know my house or something.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sue you for the idea, but
Speaker 1: if you do make a T shirt, you need to
Speaker 1: send me one.
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 4: I'll make sure you get one.
Speaker 1: Kick Hey, take care of Simon.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bye bye.
Speaker 1: I'm appreciate that guy just told us that he killed someone. Hello. Hello,
Speaker 1: who is this?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 1: Hey? What's up?
Speaker 3: Man? Right?
Speaker 1: Is this Matthew?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's going on? All right?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to other
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Oh? I'm sorry, Ah, Yes, this is Matthew.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Matthew?
Speaker 3: Matthew?
Speaker 1: You are you are you. I feel like I called you,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like you were talking to me in
Speaker 1: your sleep.
Speaker 3: Just now I was lying down. I just saw like
Speaker 3: a weird number. I'm like, it's a spam. What is this?
Speaker 1: Oh okay my second answer? Yeah, right right. I've been
Speaker 1: doing this thing where people just text my line and
Speaker 1: I'll call them back and I'm you know, it's a
Speaker 1: it is they just get a phone call from a
Speaker 1: random number. Yes, hey, Matthew thirty, you texted me and
Speaker 1: I called you because you said to me, I am
Speaker 1: a new railroader and the lifestyle is interesting.
Speaker 3: It is very interesting.
Speaker 1: What is a new railroader? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: So basically, last December I went to a train school
Speaker 3: where they basically put you up and teach you how
Speaker 3: to work on the railway. And then I spent like
Speaker 3: six months in training and then now I'm out there
Speaker 3: on my own doing railway stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow, you mastered in trains? Yeah yeah, well I guess Okay,
Speaker 1: what's it like making trains?
Speaker 3: Uh? Well I am. I don't make train I'm a conductor.
Speaker 3: So what I do is like I build certain trains,
Speaker 3: like they'll give me paperwork and tell them so I'm
Speaker 3: going to do. It's like it's sort of like it's
Speaker 3: basically like a rail trucker in some cases, or like
Speaker 3: a FedEx driver on rail. It just depends what I'm
Speaker 3: going to be doing that day.
Speaker 1: Can I, you know, be honest with you about how
Speaker 1: I feel about trains?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: We have cars that can go lots of places. Why
Speaker 1: do we still use trains?
Speaker 3: Quantity?
Speaker 1: I guess there's no traffic on trains, really, you have
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot of its quantity and a lot
Speaker 3: of his infrastructure because you can carry a lot more
Speaker 3: in certain areas that you just can't do with trucks.
Speaker 3: That's pretty much what it is. But side by side
Speaker 3: they really work together and it's pretty decent.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a fun job.
Speaker 1: Now tell me. Do people ever stow away on the
Speaker 1: trains and you have to kick them out?
Speaker 3: So I haven't caught anyone, but it is the thing
Speaker 3: that happens. There's a guy on YouTube apparently as a
Speaker 3: homeless dude, and all he does is just like hop
Speaker 3: on our trains and record his the countries and stuff.
Speaker 3: Phone sit me one of his videos a while again.
Speaker 1: You know, eventually that guy is going to start making
Speaker 1: big YouTube money and his train videos are gonna He's
Speaker 1: going to be hopping on a tracks instead of like
Speaker 1: you know, commercial trains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get that money.
Speaker 1: That's see, that's a that's a that's a double edged
Speaker 1: sword right there. Having a popular YouTube channel not being homeless,
Speaker 1: because what do you Because if the YouTube channel get popper,
Speaker 1: you're gonna start making money and you won't be homeless anymore.
Speaker 1: But people watch the videos because you were homeless.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you never have to worry about that because
Speaker 1: you make trains the YouTube videos.
Speaker 3: I can do both, not really, And.
Speaker 1: If you ever did lose your home, you could make
Speaker 1: a train and live in that. Yeah, Matthew, have I
Speaker 1: caught you? I feel like I've caught you in the
Speaker 1: middle of having an affair in wife or something. You
Speaker 1: seem very you seem like you seem I.
Speaker 2: Was lying in bed about the fall sleep.
Speaker 3: So if I found the oriento this probably because I
Speaker 3: am that's okay.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to By the way, I'm not
Speaker 1: offended at all. If you would rather be asleep than
Speaker 1: talk to.
Speaker 3: Me, I genuinely know it's fine. So right now I'm
Speaker 3: at the part of the job. It's like, so they
Speaker 3: basically I took a train from one place to a
Speaker 3: certain place, So I'm at a certain place in a
Speaker 3: hotel waiting for a call to be sent back home basically.
Speaker 3: So it's like I'm in like some sort of like
Speaker 3: limbo by purgatory waiting to go home. So I'm actually
Speaker 3: still up because I really don't want to fall asleep
Speaker 3: so that I'm not groggy when they call me to
Speaker 3: take a train back home.
Speaker 1: I wait, so you don't want to be asleep right now?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I'm kind of hoping they call me like the next
Speaker 3: two hours, but they can honestly call me in between,
Speaker 3: like I can be here for like another twenty four
Speaker 3: hours or thirty hours.
Speaker 1: If they called you right now, would you have to
Speaker 1: hang up on may or would you hang up on them?
Speaker 3: They don't like it when we don't pick up the phone,
Speaker 3: so I probably put you on hold.
Speaker 1: If you put me on hold, unfortunately, probably on the call.
Speaker 1: That's fair in less, if you wanted to, like, if
Speaker 1: I how about this, can we make it? Can we
Speaker 1: make a deal if they call you, If they call you,
Speaker 1: you actually you you just put them in on this call,
Speaker 1: and I promise I won't like say anything. I just
Speaker 1: want to listen.
Speaker 3: Honestly, that makes me incredibly uncomfortable, so I would probably
Speaker 3: just rescuge of not calling me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, That's what I would do too,
Speaker 1: if I asked if I were you, and I asked
Speaker 1: you that what kind of snacks do they have on
Speaker 1: on on these trains that you're making to They have
Speaker 1: a snack and.
Speaker 3: What whatever whatever we bring they have like any machines
Speaker 3: and like the little offices we go to together work
Speaker 3: and stuff. I brought a bag of like soups and
Speaker 3: protein bars and trail mix and sandwich and rice and
Speaker 3: tune up.
Speaker 1: That's really the lame. The one thing that America does
Speaker 1: wrong that Australia and Europe does very well is the
Speaker 1: snack carts on trains. You know, America, America, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: you need to get a good snack cart installed in
Speaker 1: a train so that this guy can you know, have
Speaker 1: a nice hot bacon egg and cheese instead of his
Speaker 1: tuna sandwich from home.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I gotta hang out now because
Speaker 3: you're calling it.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, well good talking to him, mate, call I
Speaker 1: hope he gets a promotion to airplanes, goes.
Speaker 3: On the line, taking your phone calls every nine
Speaker 1: Dever beacon goes to and he's teaching you a loud
Speaker 1: and