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Speaker 1: Hello, what's going on? Ship?

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Speaker 2: I think I'm at the gym right now, but obviously

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Speaker 2: i'm picking you up over the gym right now?

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Speaker 1: What gym are you at? What's the address?

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Speaker 2: Playing fitness? Of course?

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Speaker 1: Do they still serve pizza there on Fridays?

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Speaker 3: Nah?

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Speaker 2: So actually they have a tin near the instruments with

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Speaker 2: the shittiest candy over. They either got tutsi rolls or

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Speaker 2: like the the like purple Tootsy, the f fruities. I think, yeah, there,

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Speaker 2: it's weird. We don't get pizza anymore.

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Speaker 1: We just get girl the dentist office candy. What's your name?

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 2: Dog? My name? God? This is I'm just gonna drop

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Speaker 2: my my alias Blorty aka swim diaper on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Slim diaper, swim diaper, what's going on? Slim diaper? What

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Speaker 1: is it? Lem day swim So like yeah, yeah, swim diaper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's not like it's not arm D it's

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Speaker 2: always cardiod.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's always cardio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I start popping e like estrogen and like spiro,

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Speaker 2: which like like kills your tystosterone and shit. So like

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like doing that.

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Speaker 1: Like girls saying are you are you transitioning?

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Speaker 2: I just like to say I'm grown tests and my

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Speaker 2: hair out.

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Speaker 1: Cool. What how is your does estrogen grow hair?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I used to be like super

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Speaker 2: jacked and then and then my first experience like a

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Speaker 2: So because my hair was starting to thin at like

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Speaker 2: twenty two and I got on it and then I

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Speaker 2: was like, damn, like I really want like fucking long,

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Speaker 2: pretty hair like over muscles. So I kind of switched

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Speaker 2: up and now I'm going no muscle with hits and

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Speaker 2: long hair.

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Speaker 1: So what made you want to grow tits?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I just kind of like

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Speaker 2: I could get really deep into it with the whole

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Speaker 2: like tran sing, but like ultimately it's like, if you

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Speaker 2: like really want to be like feminine, there's like kind

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Speaker 2: of one side of things, and if you really want

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Speaker 2: to be masks, and that's kind of another side of things,

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Speaker 2: and I kind of wanted to be the more feminine

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Speaker 1: Do you view a beautiful long hair to be a

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, totally totally. I mean we're like designed as dudes,

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Speaker 2: like like not have nice hair. You know we're supposed

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Speaker 2: it's like long pretty hair is like totally a chicken thing.

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Speaker 2: I feel like in my head at least.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll swim. I'm just I'm just going to call

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Speaker 1: you swim. We'll swim. What did you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about today?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, so I am like a very active member

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Speaker 2: in the adult baby community aka a b d L.

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Speaker 2: I got it tatted on my ass like hardcore and

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Speaker 2: this ship hardcore in the scene, and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: we like to go like there's parties all over the

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Speaker 2: a like an Airbnb mansion, and it's just a lot

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Speaker 2: of us like cooler, like better to vibe with a

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Speaker 2: b DLS that like are invited like forty people or so,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of party favors and you could

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Speaker 2: probably guess with that is experimental party favorites too, and

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Speaker 2: we all kind of just like every single person I

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Speaker 2: was wearing a diaper, like like pissing in diapers, not shit,

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Speaker 2: and just pissing in diapers and partying and like it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like an orgy for like like a low

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Speaker 2: key orgy, like you know, you're playing card games too,

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Speaker 2: You're not just fucking you know, for like four days

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Speaker 2: and then a few months later another one happens.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever catch any gnarly SGDs doing that?

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Speaker 2: Well, So that's like the beauty of beautiful thing about diapers.

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Speaker 2: It's not always like we're not always like having kind

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Speaker 2: and like being like a diaper fetishist is like you

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Speaker 2: like the feeling of like like like pissing a diaper,

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Speaker 2: which sounds like so weird, but like especially feels good

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Speaker 2: on substances like swim.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that that sounds like there's an

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Speaker 1: even greater opportunity to pass diseases.

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Speaker 2: Oh really you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think adding piss and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's just like think about it, dude, Like

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Speaker 2: we're regular people too. If you shit, if you sit

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Speaker 2: in a diaper at a party, you're kind of killing

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Speaker 1: You know, what do you hold on? Hold on I'm

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Speaker 1: so confused. The whole point is that it's an orgy

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of people in diapers pretending to be babies.

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Speaker 1: But then if somebody, you know what I I just

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Speaker 1: gotta say this, if I were attending one of these

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Speaker 1: point of wearing a diaper is to shit in it.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. So what like that's the line

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Speaker 1: you everyone gets mad at him, dude, So.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is like a rule that's been like curated

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Speaker 2: if you ask me, have I shat in a diaper?

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Speaker 2: As an adult, of course I have. Does it like smell

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Speaker 2: totally not the vibe. So if you think about it,

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Speaker 2: if you've got like a party of like forty people,

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Speaker 2: I feel like it kills the vibe. So I get

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Speaker 1: I I feel like the lines you draw are arbitrary.

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Speaker 1: But I digress.

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Speaker 3: Where do you.

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Speaker 1: How long you've been doing this for.

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Speaker 2: The probably been in the community for like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: like four or five years. But the thing about like

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Speaker 2: like without knowing each other since basically birth, which sounds weird,

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Speaker 1: Sounds actually it actually it makes perfect sense. You were

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Speaker 2: Wow, it was a fuck, that's damn. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: I think I feel like I know more about being

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Speaker 2: An outside point of view. It's a it's a great

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Speaker 2: perspective you have. You know. I don't get to get

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Speaker 1: You know, why don't you tell regular people?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, think about it. You know you're at

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Speaker 2: her you like to like piss and type like, it

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Speaker 2: probably reduces your chances a little bit. So it's kind

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Speaker 2: of one of those things that we keep amongst ourselves

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know what, sure, if you're talking

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Speaker 2: But I'd reduce that number a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'd reduce there's there's a zero point zero, zero one

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Speaker 2: Damn. Well, see that's this is my thinking. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: think you're very smart. I think you're onto something. I'm

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Speaker 2: on the same thing. So I got it tatted the

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Speaker 2: if you see the acrom after nam and it means

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Speaker 2: nothing to you, it means nothing to you. So I'm

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Speaker 2: one step ahead of you.

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Speaker 1: What's the acronym?

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Speaker 3: Oh A B D l ah.

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Speaker 1: There you go, and it's on your ass too.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, my girlfriend. Now, I guess you could say,

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Speaker 2: well legally my wife, but I call her my girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: So where's she from?

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Speaker 2: Canada?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Is she also a baby person?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, definitely very much. Uh yeah, yeah, I met

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Speaker 1: Do you guys swing?

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Speaker 2: So I can't, but like I'm into like I think

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Speaker 2: But it's I don't know, it sounds like weird, but

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Speaker 2: it's totally not.

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Speaker 1: You have a one sided open relationship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called being a cook.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how long you've been into doing that for?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing about like Fetishit is like I've

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Speaker 2: It kind of makes you feel like a fucking loser.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, but it's like I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: You know, hm, tell me more about being a cook.

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Speaker 2: So I like begged my chick to like get a

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Speaker 2: and you know, she she got to slipe in, uh,

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Speaker 2: I fucking hate that I think it's hot. But you know,

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Speaker 2: like I definitely have definitely jerked off, like some of

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Speaker 2: And but at the same time, like I was turned on.

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Speaker 2: then time goes on and all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: How do you feel like you would fuck up your sexuality?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to a therapist about this?

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Speaker 1: Look everything aside, I mean, how old are you? I'm

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Speaker 1: This stuff has been good for you by your own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, of course that makes fortune kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least five different people who like getting shat on

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's beautiful to be honest.

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Speaker 2: I would I hate to say this one man, I

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Speaker 2: that's too fucking weird. That like that can't be allowed.

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff like fighting for acceptance. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that everybody in this community is an adult,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'd have to agree with you there, and I

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of on an unfortunate uh uh thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I supposed to do to shake that? You know? But

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Speaker 2: it's totally all like two adults things. If anything, most

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I here's it.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think you can choose what

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Speaker 1: So like, look, if something in your brain wants to

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Speaker 1: But but you, as an enlightened twenty first century human being,

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Speaker 1: that is of age and consenting that pretends to be

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Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody actually wants to Actually, I understand what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna totally agree with you. Yeah, but obviously

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you knew that though I know I

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Speaker 1: What that. No, I didn't, I mean, I don't. I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I Look, there's all I don't

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Speaker 2: Girl has definitely called you daddy.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, since when was any of this about me? Swim?

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Speaker 2: Hey know, I don't mean to I don't mean to

439
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: spin it around, but you have been called daddy. I

440
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: have also been called daddy. It's just a little little stronger.

441
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: I guess you could say.

442
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's about time Prefstar to wrap this up. Swim.

443
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: Thanks for paper on Instagram, swimper on Instagram.

444
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: See you know, I gotta tell you have a lot

445
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: of buck because not only are you calling it you

446
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: you said something like people are crazy enough to call in,

447
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: but not only are you calling in, you're like, hey,

448
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram. I mean, go for it. You're

449
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: not stupid here. I don't know what you are, but

450
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: I hope you have a good rest of your life.

451
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: Hey man, it's great talking to you is great.

452
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: Good talking to Swim. Is there anything else you want

453
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the universe before we go?

454
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, fuck bitches and get money rock and roll.

455
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Have a good one, Swim all rights? Uh was that

456
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: conversation too fucked up? Hello?

457
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: Hi?

458
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: Hi?

459
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is this?

460
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 4: Sorry? I got to get out of my house.

461
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: Sleep.

462
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: What's your name Buco, Oh, my name Simon Simon, like

463
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: one of that's like the chipmunk.

464
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a chipmunk.

465
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of fucked that. I think Alvin's

466
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: the youngest, right, and yet he's the front man.

467
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm outside now.

468
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I know you don't give a fuck

469
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: about any of that or what I just said, So

470
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about you. No, no, no, you don't and you

471
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: don't have to lie to me, and I prefer a

472
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: few didn't. But I don't give a fuck about what

473
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I just said either, none of us do. It's not

474
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the sacred Simon Simon. You said you texted me a

475
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: bunch of things. Let's talk about Oh yeah, the first way, uh,

476
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: you said to me, let's talk about it. I want

477
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of these things. But you also,

478
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: here's the first one. You said, I want to talk

479
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: about a fake persona I assume on occasion that has

480
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: gotten me recognition on a national level. What does that mean?

481
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, So a couple of years ago, maybe twenty seventeen,

482
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: my wife and I went to a business. It was

483
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: a comic book store, actually worse service ever, Like I

484
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: walked in like I was like, gave me attitude a

485
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: little bit, well, not even add to it. He just

486
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: didn't he didn't even look us in the eye or

487
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: like we were in New we like the area. So like

488
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: I was offended. And as I was walking out, I

489
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I'm gonna leave this guy

490
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: a bad review on Google. And so I was like,

491
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to use my real name, you know,

492
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'll use the name Simon. So

493
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: this Simon's not my real name, but you know you

494
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 4: probably knew that. So I use the name Simon and

495
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: I reviewed this place. And then over the years, I

496
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: progressively just like started reviewing random businesses that I went

497
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: to Right, and I eventually, over the course of like years,

498
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: my reviews started getting like more views on Google, and

499
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: I would just like copy it and paste that onto

500
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: Yelp at the same time. So then I was getting

501
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: recognition on both Right and Yelp has this like thing

502
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: I guess were like if you like, uh, sorry sound

503
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: shaky by the way I get inside, but uh, they

504
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: have this thing where like if you're a top reviewer,

505
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: they'll like invite you to like events and like the

506
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: city you're from or like your area. So they started

507
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: inviting me to like Houston events because I I'm around Houston.

508
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: So they're like, uh, you know this business is opening,

509
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: and uh, we're willing to invite you. But they needed

510
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: a verified profile, right, But I wasn't gonna upload my

511
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: my face like instead of like coming clean, I just

512
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 4: like I just doubled down on the on the lie

513
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: and I went on like an AI generated website and

514
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: I made like a I just like generated a generic

515
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: Hispanic guy because I'm Hispanic, and uh, I uploaded that

516
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: and I like got verified, like kind of in a

517
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: sketchy way where I just like putting a fake phone number, YadA, YadA,

518
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: and they stun't started sending me invites to all these

519
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: like events in Houston, and I was like, you know,

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00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. So then I like

521
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: stop posting on Yelp. And then on Google, I just

522
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: kept posting my reviews and eventually I got to like,

523
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, five million views a month or something,

524
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: and then.

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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: I still have this profile.

526
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: But basically Google just constantly reminds me that like, hey,

527
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 4: your reviews are getting more recognition. You should upload more,

528
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: you should upload more and I'm like, man, that's not

529
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: even me, you know, and then like not even like

530
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: just on Google, but like in general when them out

531
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: places and someone asked me for my name, so I

532
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: want to give my little name, so I just like

533
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: say I'm Simon, and then Simon's more confident, you know. Sorry,

534
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: if I'm like the rambling, is there any anything I

535
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: should be saying? Or I'm like, did this is connecting?

536
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: Why did your reviews go viral? What is it about

537
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: them that kept out?

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00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: They're really they're they're they're really detailed there. For example,

539
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: I'll upload photos. A lot of people when they review things,

540
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: they never upload photos. When I go to like places,

541
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: I'll like take pictures of menus and and uh like

542
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: the surrounding areas and stuff, and a lot of people

543
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: don't do that. And a lot of my photos are

544
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 4: you know, really detailed in terms of like I I.

545
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: The funny reviews, like people.

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00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: Know, they're very like.

547
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: They're very like, uh detailed, like everything that's on the menu,

548
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: if it's affordable, this and.

549
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: That, you know what, what's the worst and you review anything?

550
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: This is just businesses in general?

551
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, any any place that I.

552
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Just go all the worst place you've ever reviewed, Like,

553
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: what's the most scathing review you've ever written?

554
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: I think it's a hotel in Mexico that I went to.

555
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Why was it so terrible?

556
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: Uh? Uh Well, when we got there, I had to

557
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: like lock up some documents, and uh the lady was like,

558
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: like as soon as we walked in, the lady was like, ah,

559
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: like it was a chore. So I was like, we

560
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: really needed to walk up these documents, like they're important, right,

561
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: And the lady was like, all right, let me get

562
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: a manager. So she gets to go get the manager, right,

563
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: and then I wait for like thirty minutes to an hour,

564
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: I remember it was a while, and then they get

565
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 4: the manager comes down and the guy's like all right,

566
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: let's do this, and then take me to like this

567
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: sketchy back area behind the counter where they have the

568
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: lock boxes. I guess they're like security deposit boxes or something.

569
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: And the guy can't open it, and the guy's like,

570
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: it's cool with just like Hammick. The documents. I was like, uh,

571
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: I can't just hand you these like sensitive documents because

572
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: they were like legal documents, and he was like, uh okay,

573
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: He's like, well, I can't give you a lock box

574
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, well can I get my

575
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: deposit back? And they're like sorry. I was like, oh okay,

576
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: Oh what am I gonna do? I'm in Mexico, you know.

577
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: But it wasn't much.

578
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: It was like I don't know, sixty pences or something.

579
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: And then uh, like whenever I got my hotel room,

580
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: there was nobody else at this hotel. By the way,

581
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: it was like three floors. Though for some reason, they

582
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: put me like on the third floor, and uh, they

583
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: put me on the one hall. They had like no

584
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: lights on in the hallways, like the lights are all out,

585
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: so it made it feel extra sketchy, and it's like

586
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: they could have put me like on the first floor something.

587
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: Probably only want to die.

588
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you Is this your full time job?

589
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: No? No, no, I actually work at a grocery store,

590
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: which is a whole other thing.

591
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: And I haven't been able to How have you haven't

592
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: been able to monetize this? There's all there's all kinds

593
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: of like professional douchebag review people who write for magazines

594
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: and whatever.

595
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: I think it's more about the it's not it's not

596
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 4: and none of it's under my name, my real name.

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00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how like that affects, Like can I

598
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 4: run a business without it being my real name? You know,

599
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: but like the legality of it.

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00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: I guess that would be I guess. I guess that's

601
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: what Banksy does. He's he's rich.

602
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess so. But I'm already like and

603
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: like I can't get involved with shady things because because

604
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 4: I'm I'm like in the process of getting something fixed.

605
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: So like if I get involved in shady things, then

606
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: then that won't come through.

607
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: You know, what is that? What do you mean You're

608
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: in the process of getting something fixed.

609
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: Well, like I'm getting my my citizenship, and like in

610
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: order to get my citizenship in the US, I had

611
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 4: to like go through to get my uh my permanent residency.

612
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: But in order to get my permanent residency, I had

613
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 4: to like apply are you are you from?

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00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Are you from Mexico?

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00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

616
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: I am, you know originally, so.

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00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: Between between the US and Mexico. As a professional judger

618
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: of things, which which place has shittier stuff?

619
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

620
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: Man, Oh that's a hard one. Part of me wants

621
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: to say, obviously Mexico. But it's more affordable there, you know,

622
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: it depends food. Food, Mexico obviously wins genuine leather leather

623
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: items and like craftsmanship items, I guess Mexico, but like

624
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: more manufactured and technology items. I would say the US probably.

625
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: M You know I have I've always had a great

626
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: disdain for reviewers.

627
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: You know.

628
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: I have.

629
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: I have.

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00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm about to go I'm about to go off on you, Simon.

631
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: I've always had a great disdain for reviewers because you know,

632
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: all these like a movie review people, art review people,

633
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: food review people. Because I mean, typically a reviewer unless

634
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: if it's like somebody who was in the industry of

635
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: the thing they're reviewing and contributed to that industry for

636
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: a while and then comes back with a particular expertise,

637
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm almost kind of like, well, shut the fuck out.

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00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't do anything. You know, at least

639
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: this person did. You know, they tried to cook something,

640
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: or they tried to make a movie or a hotel,

641
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: or at least they tried to you know, they contributed something,

642
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean a review it doesn't really contribute anything.

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00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: Is this like a kind of like well, like for example,

644
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: if if someone cleans your house, do you expect their

645
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: house to be clean or do you just respect the

646
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: profession that they're cleaning your house.

647
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: If somebody cleans your house, do you expect their house

648
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: to be if somebody cleans my house, are you I

649
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: don't understand.

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00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: What do you expect their house, their personal home to

651
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: be clean because you're the person should be No?

652
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: No, no, I just I only care if they're able

653
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: to clean my I guess if I pay somebody to

654
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: clean my house, I only care if they are able

655
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: to successfully clean my house. I don't care what's going

656
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: on with any other aspect of their personal cleanliness.

657
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: I see, I see.

658
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

659
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess I'm like a professional online douchebag in

660
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: a way, not intentionally. Just yes, but then all no, no,

661
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: not all My reviews are scathingly bad though.

662
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: But you know what, Simon, Yeah, so am I.

663
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 2: That's fair?

664
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: You also talking about this, you said I've been working

665
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: at a grocery store for ten years to get confidence

666
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: from not being myself. What does that mean?

667
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 4: Oh, sometimes I'll pretend to be Simon at work to

668
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: be more confident, if that makes any sense. Okay, the

669
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 4: person who I am isn't as confident, so sometimes I'll

670
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: just switch persona you know, I guess. I don't know

671
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: if it's like code switching or what it's called when

672
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: you just like pretend to be someone else entirely. But

673
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm the same person. Why can't I just

674
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 4: be myself through that? You know?

675
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: You know, I will say. I'll say this, Simon, I

676
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: think that give reviewing things is a way that is.

677
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: I can see why you would have more confidence, right,

678
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: because it takes a lot of confidence to write a review,

679
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: to be, like, you know, to stand up against what

680
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: you believe to be the injustice of you know, this

681
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Noodles and Company and the fact.

682
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: That Noodle place.

683
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I understand why you would feel more

684
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: comfort more confident as the interviewer, I mean, not as

685
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: the as the reviewer than as yourself. Why do you

686
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: feel unconfident as as just whatever your real name is.

687
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's a good question. I think it's

688
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 4: because I've been myself. Let's say my real name is Alvin.

689
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: I think I've been Yeah, if I've been Alvin my

690
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 4: whole life, you know, picking up this new mask as Simon,

691
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, it feels like it feels new. It

692
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: feels like a brand new court paint, you know, if

693
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 4: that makes any sense. I know what Alvin's like because

694
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: I've experienced Alvin my whole life. But Simon, Simon's Simon

695
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: will tell you what's wrong with you? Simon, will you know,

696
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: tell you, hey, uh you need to fix this, or hey,

697
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: this is how things are. But I don't know Alvin,

698
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: I guess never picked up that skill.

699
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: So Simon, So I get where you're coming from. And

700
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: let's explore this for a second. So uh, Simon, So

701
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: Alvin is something that just kind of naturally developed. It

702
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: almost feels as though you didn't pick your personality. It

703
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: almost feels as though Simon is a blank slate. It's

704
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to create a persona meticulously, intentionally

705
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: of the kind of person that you wish to embody.

706
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? Yeah, yeah, yeah, But why can't you

707
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: But what? But then, but then, why can't you just

708
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: treat your existing self? Why can't you just treat Alvin

709
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: as that slate? Why do you have to create a

710
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: new character when you can make intentional choices to change

711
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: the character that you currently inhabit.

712
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's a good question. I've never I've

713
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: never thought about just being myself, not Simon, but like incorporating.

714
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: You know, why don't you add Simon and Alvin together

715
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: and divide them by two? Salvin be that person Salvin.

716
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: That could work.

717
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we're I feel like

718
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: you're about to enter your Salvin era.

719
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 4: I think I think so, I think so good.

720
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So if what changes would would we make to

721
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: Alvin to make him more Simony.

722
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess Simon Simon's more direct, so

723
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: I guess Alvin could start being more direct, like Alvin

724
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: kind of avoids questions when he's asked that work, and

725
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 4: Simon's more like gives you straight answers, you know, like

726
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: earlier when I was like waiting and whatever and in

727
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: the chat and some I was like, hey, a lot

728
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 4: of people got a call to get on and I

729
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: just told the guy was like, no, I'm getting on

730
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: because I was like, that was not in confidence, you know,

731
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: but Alvin, Alvin doesn't have that.

732
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Alvin, let me ask you something. This is a serious question.

733
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: What do you wish to accomplish or to become that

734
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: you feel as though you need more confidence to do

735
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: before you get there.

736
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Speaker 4: I guess the thing that's the main thing that's that

737
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: would give me the confidence is still I guess something

738
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: like an action, an action? Uh, an action would be

739
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 4: to leave my job?

740
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: Oh shit, what do you want to do?

741
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 4: I guess be a writer of some sort or a

742
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 4: reviewer of some sort. I mean I already am, but

743
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: you know, like it's a real thing, not just so.

744
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't get so. I don't get so you're like

745
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: a famous reviewer guy, right, but it's just on on

746
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: how many followers do you have?

747
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

748
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: Let me check? Hold on?

749
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: I got away here.

750
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 4: It says I have six hundred and ten thousand right.

751
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: Now, six hundred and ten thousand on what? On what?

752
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: That's just on Google?

753
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: You have six hundred and ten thousand followers on Google? Yes,

754
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: you could you can make you can make as I

755
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: feel like you can turn that into as much money

756
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: as you would make working at a grocery store. I

757
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: don't know how, so, I mean, maybe you know what

758
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: you should do, bro you Maybe maybe you need to

759
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: start selling T shirts?

760
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: What would I put in a review or T shirt? No?

761
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: Simon says, you suck?

762
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you? Are you?

763
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: Are you gonna copyright? Are you gonna like sue me

764
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: if I used it?

765
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Am I gonna know? I want you to use that

766
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: that that that that is no use to me. It

767
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: only is used to you.

768
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: Okay, that works. If I'm doubling down on Simon and

769
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: putting it on T shirts though, I'll just put it

770
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: on the front, Simon says, on the front, and then

771
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 4: on back I'll put like Alvin agrees too, or something

772
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: like that, and then people.

773
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, nobody knows who Alvin is.

774
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: That's true.

775
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 4: You're right, you're It wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't make sense.

776
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: You're right, you're right. Scrab my scrab Who I am.

777
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 4: I'll double down on Simon, ok And then.

778
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, try and look try. I don't know, I feel

779
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: like you can try to make some money off of

780
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: this thing if if you have, if you have people

781
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: who follow you and like what you.

782
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: Do, Yeah, I think so too, thanks.

783
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, man, I don't know. There's a lot

784
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: of stuff you get, do you fucking YouTube videos? You

785
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: can do affiliate marketing. Uh, I don't know, man, I

786
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: mean I just give it a try. If that, if

787
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: that's if that's what Simon would do is leave his

788
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: job to try to be go full time review guy.

789
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: There's there's there's all kinds of douchey internet review guys

790
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: that make a ton of money saying that things suck.

791
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: Why not you? Why not you? Alvin? Why not you?

792
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

793
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: Why not me?

794
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do that.

795
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: I probably won't quit my job because I'm about to

796
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: go to backs to Mexico. But soon.

797
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: When you go, you should get some til status.

798
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: Dude, No judge, it does in my house.

799
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

800
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: I'll look for something that can't make in my house

801
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: and get it and get it.

802
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: Alvin, Yeah, Salvin, is there anything else you want to

803
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?

804
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

805
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: Actually, uh, don't let where you come from define.

806
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: Who you are.

807
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: Where can I follow you on? How do I follow you.

808
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: On Google? Yeah?

809
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say. I don't want to talk to myself.

810
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: Come using fake identity? Uh, I'll oh you can't. You

811
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: can't follow me?

812
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: All right? Well, your fake identity is the same but you,

813
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: but you're not. It's not a fake you're The fake

814
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: identity that you're giving me right now is the same

815
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: as the fake identity that you have on that account.

816
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: So where's the compromisation here?

817
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

818
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: Because it because since I read you, a lot of

819
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: local businesses around me. I don't know if you've ever

820
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 4: seen like dateline and stuff. When they find mass murders

821
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: or killers or whatever, they like find out which businesses

822
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: they've by, like where they've killed people, and they like

823
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: triangulate that guy's location. Does that make any sense?

824
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: Are you saying that you've killed people?

825
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: No?

826
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: No, no, But I'm afraid that if someone could like

827
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: triangulate the businesses where I've been and then like narrow

828
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 4: it down to like I don't know my house or something.

829
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sue you for the idea, but

830
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: if you do make a T shirt, you need to

831
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: send me one.

832
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: I will.

833
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 4: I'll make sure you get one.

834
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Kick Hey, take care of Simon.

835
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bye bye.

836
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm appreciate that guy just told us that he killed someone. Hello. Hello,

837
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: who is this?

838
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: Hello?

839
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: Hey? What's up?

840
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: Man? Right?

841
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: Is this Matthew?

842
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

843
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: What's going on? All right?

844
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: Well?

845
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to other

846
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

847
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: Oh? I'm sorry, Ah, Yes, this is Matthew.

848
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Matthew?

849
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: Matthew?

850
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: You are you are you. I feel like I called you,

851
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: Like I feel like you were talking to me in

852
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: your sleep.

853
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: Just now I was lying down. I just saw like

854
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: a weird number. I'm like, it's a spam. What is this?

855
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: Oh okay my second answer? Yeah, right right. I've been

856
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: doing this thing where people just text my line and

857
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: I'll call them back and I'm you know, it's a

858
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: it is they just get a phone call from a

859
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: random number. Yes, hey, Matthew thirty, you texted me and

860
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: I called you because you said to me, I am

861
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: a new railroader and the lifestyle is interesting.

862
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: It is very interesting.

863
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: What is a new railroader? What does that mean?

864
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: So basically, last December I went to a train school

865
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: where they basically put you up and teach you how

866
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: to work on the railway. And then I spent like

867
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: six months in training and then now I'm out there

868
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: on my own doing railway stuff.

869
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: Wow, you mastered in trains? Yeah yeah, well I guess Okay,

870
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: what's it like making trains?

871
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: Uh? Well I am. I don't make train I'm a conductor.

872
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: So what I do is like I build certain trains,

873
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 3: like they'll give me paperwork and tell them so I'm

874
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: going to do. It's like it's sort of like it's

875
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: basically like a rail trucker in some cases, or like

876
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: a FedEx driver on rail. It just depends what I'm

877
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: going to be doing that day.

878
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: Can I, you know, be honest with you about how

879
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I feel about trains?

880
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: Good?

881
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Good?

882
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: We have cars that can go lots of places. Why

883
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: do we still use trains?

884
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: Quantity?

885
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: I guess there's no traffic on trains, really, you have

886
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: to know.

887
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot of its quantity and a lot

888
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: of his infrastructure because you can carry a lot more

889
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: in certain areas that you just can't do with trucks.

890
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: That's pretty much what it is. But side by side

891
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: they really work together and it's pretty decent.

892
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: I guess.

893
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a fun job.

894
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: Now tell me. Do people ever stow away on the

895
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: trains and you have to kick them out?

896
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: So I haven't caught anyone, but it is the thing

897
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: that happens. There's a guy on YouTube apparently as a

898
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 3: homeless dude, and all he does is just like hop

899
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: on our trains and record his the countries and stuff.

900
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: Phone sit me one of his videos a while again.

901
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: You know, eventually that guy is going to start making

902
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: big YouTube money and his train videos are gonna He's

903
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: going to be hopping on a tracks instead of like

904
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, commercial trains.

905
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get that money.

906
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: That's see, that's a that's a that's a double edged

907
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: sword right there. Having a popular YouTube channel not being homeless,

908
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: because what do you Because if the YouTube channel get popper,

909
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna start making money and you won't be homeless anymore.

910
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: But people watch the videos because you were homeless.

911
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

912
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you never have to worry about that because

913
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: you make trains the YouTube videos.

914
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: I can do both, not really, And.

915
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: If you ever did lose your home, you could make

916
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: a train and live in that. Yeah, Matthew, have I

917
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: caught you? I feel like I've caught you in the

918
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: middle of having an affair in wife or something. You

919
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: seem very you seem like you seem I.

920
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: Was lying in bed about the fall sleep.

921
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: So if I found the oriento this probably because I

922
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: am that's okay.

923
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Do you want me to By the way, I'm not

924
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: offended at all. If you would rather be asleep than

925
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: talk to.

926
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: Me, I genuinely know it's fine. So right now I'm

927
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: at the part of the job. It's like, so they

928
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: basically I took a train from one place to a

929
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: certain place, So I'm at a certain place in a

930
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: hotel waiting for a call to be sent back home basically.

931
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: So it's like I'm in like some sort of like

932
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: limbo by purgatory waiting to go home. So I'm actually

933
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 3: still up because I really don't want to fall asleep

934
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: so that I'm not groggy when they call me to

935
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: take a train back home.

936
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: I wait, so you don't want to be asleep right now?

937
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: Now?

938
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: I'm kind of hoping they call me like the next

939
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: two hours, but they can honestly call me in between,

940
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: like I can be here for like another twenty four

941
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: hours or thirty hours.

942
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: If they called you right now, would you have to

943
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: hang up on may or would you hang up on them?

944
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 3: They don't like it when we don't pick up the phone,

945
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: so I probably put you on hold.

946
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: If you put me on hold, unfortunately, probably on the call.

947
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: That's fair in less, if you wanted to, like, if

948
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: I how about this, can we make it? Can we

949
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: make a deal if they call you, If they call you,

950
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: you actually you you just put them in on this call,

951
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: and I promise I won't like say anything. I just

952
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: want to listen.

953
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: Honestly, that makes me incredibly uncomfortable, so I would probably

954
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: just rescuge of not calling me.

955
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, That's what I would do too,

956
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: if I asked if I were you, and I asked

957
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: you that what kind of snacks do they have on

958
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: on on these trains that you're making to They have

959
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: a snack and.

960
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: What whatever whatever we bring they have like any machines

961
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 3: and like the little offices we go to together work

962
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 3: and stuff. I brought a bag of like soups and

963
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 3: protein bars and trail mix and sandwich and rice and

964
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 3: tune up.

965
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: That's really the lame. The one thing that America does

966
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: wrong that Australia and Europe does very well is the

967
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: snack carts on trains. You know, America, America, if you're listening,

968
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: you need to get a good snack cart installed in

969
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: a train so that this guy can you know, have

970
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: a nice hot bacon egg and cheese instead of his

971
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: tuna sandwich from home.

972
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I gotta hang out now because

973
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: you're calling it.

974
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh shit, well good talking to him, mate, call I

975
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: hope he gets a promotion to airplanes, goes.

976
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: On the line, taking your phone calls every nine

977
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: Dever beacon goes to and he's teaching you a loud

978
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: and