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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And welcome to a victory Monday of
Speaker 1: mix shots. Mickey, can you sing happy days are here? Here?
Speaker 1: I don't sing good, I'm glad you do. And welcome
Speaker 1: to Mick Shots, Bill Jones, Everson Walls and Mickey's Spagnola.
Speaker 1: After a twenty to seventeen win over the Los Angeles Chargers,
Speaker 1: Mickey is working on how much sleep? Um? I think
Speaker 1: I eat together an hour and a half on the
Speaker 1: plane and then got home and maybe another hour and
Speaker 1: a half. Well it happened three o'clock, three hours? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you need right until you fall out later?
Speaker 1: That's what somebody said. How you doing? I go asked
Speaker 1: me at three, Nikky, you picked Cowboys to win? It?
Speaker 1: I did? Yeah? What was this? Thirty one thirty thirty
Speaker 1: one point win? Yeah? I picked the Cowboys to win?
Speaker 1: If you recall, yes I do Greg's urline field goal.
Speaker 1: Yes you did? How about Everson. I am disappointed. I
Speaker 1: want to challenge this game. I want to challenge challenge
Speaker 1: the results of the game. Here's the deal. Everson is
Speaker 1: going to pick against the Cowboys the rest of the scene.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that because it's work. You have to
Speaker 1: keep picking against right, No, if it's going to have
Speaker 1: these kind of results, then Everson's got to pick against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Friday. I'll tell you what. I was
Speaker 1: so happy. Of course, I'm pulling from the entire time,
Speaker 1: But god man, you know this is this is not
Speaker 1: working out. Well, I need the O and two. I
Speaker 1: need the O and two to work out so that
Speaker 1: all of my stuff could come into fruition. So one
Speaker 1: of going that I got to refigure things. He could
Speaker 1: have been right there on the NFL Network show. Yeah
Speaker 1: everybody else people can't. Yeah, tell us about that. So
Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry had an appearance just minutes away from his
Speaker 1: birthplace in Los Angeles. It's Sofi Stadium a mile on Sunday.
Speaker 1: They found the house too, They had a picture of it.
Speaker 1: I saw that, Um, a little loverly done. I thought,
Speaker 1: what the house? No, I mean the fact that he
Speaker 1: was born there, Well, who knew? They all though he
Speaker 1: was frus. You could tell me I don't need to
Speaker 1: have a pictorial, you know what I mean. I don't
Speaker 1: need get ready because it's the story is going to
Speaker 1: repeat itself February right back, going back. That's when I
Speaker 1: want to see it. We're gonna do that. That's want
Speaker 1: when you break the news. He was born last year
Speaker 1: backyard of Sofi Stay. The NFL network offices are right
Speaker 1: across the street from Sofi Stadium, and it's pretty neat
Speaker 1: building and so they've got the So he did like
Speaker 1: a segment I believe it was nine thirty, nine thirty
Speaker 1: local time. Uh did a segment on there with Michael
Speaker 1: and then when they go out on the field, he
Speaker 1: went out there for the picks, right, and uh so
Speaker 1: they all they were all apologizing, right, but they all
Speaker 1: took the charges until they get to Michael, right, and
Speaker 1: he's got that goofy wolf thing, lone wolf hat that
Speaker 1: he puts on that he was getting ready. He was
Speaker 1: getting ready, he was getting ready to put it on Jerry,
Speaker 1: and Jerry backed off and goes, does that thing bite right?
Speaker 1: I have cod? Yeah? Yeah, and so this oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like yeah, no, no, no, what you're doing right. Well,
Speaker 1: the funny thing is, so they finished and there's a
Speaker 1: fence around that field. Well, somehow, some way, Cowboy fans
Speaker 1: knew he was on there, and they were lined up
Speaker 1: on the fence. And this was before noon, so it
Speaker 1: was three hours, three and a half hours before kickoff,
Speaker 1: and they were all lined up there, cheering and yelling,
Speaker 1: and he went around and fist bumped everybody right down
Speaker 1: the fence. I said, just like Jerry, right, And that
Speaker 1: gave me the idea that the Cowboys were going to
Speaker 1: have home field advantage in state. There's no doubt. I
Speaker 1: knew that before we got there. We talked about the
Speaker 1: state of California having probably more registered Cowboy fans than
Speaker 1: any other state except for Texas. Was not surprised at
Speaker 1: all when we kicked the winning field goal. It was
Speaker 1: like a place when it was like a home game. Tobicky,
Speaker 1: you were there, What was the percentage Cowboys fans versus
Speaker 1: O it? To me, it was it might have been
Speaker 1: more than fifty fifty. And you count the celebrities they
Speaker 1: have more that that goes towards two votes, right, there
Speaker 1: were two regular people and yeah, all the celebrities, Cowboy fans.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a pretty blue looking crowd. They
Speaker 1: all had the Cowboy blue jerseys. And I think the
Speaker 1: bottom line was um Zack Martin pointed out that they
Speaker 1: never had to go Silent count He said, but I
Speaker 1: think I saw the Chargers going Silent County right well.
Speaker 1: Then afterwards after the game, and this would have been
Speaker 1: at least an hour or so after the game. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys where their locker room was, They had to walk
Speaker 1: the length of the field to get to where the
Speaker 1: buses is sort of like he had to do with
Speaker 1: the Superdome in New Orleans. And there were still Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans in the bunker suites almost all the way down right,
Speaker 1: And I was walking out with Dak and Rich Dalrymple
Speaker 1: and they were going crazy, yelling and screaming for him.
Speaker 1: And the funniest thing was we got to the end
Speaker 1: up in the stands, all all the workers they were
Speaker 1: cheering for Dak. That the workers at so far were
Speaker 1: cheering for Dak. It was or was it, Mike? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I made sure I got out of the way so
Speaker 1: they could they could have their day. You know. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of when we first s built uh Jerry's
Speaker 1: World at and T Stadium. A few teams came in
Speaker 1: there whooped out butts and they had such a great
Speaker 1: time coming to that beautiful stadium. First of all, they
Speaker 1: want to see it and to have victory there. It
Speaker 1: just gives you a little bit more of a satisfaction, right,
Speaker 1: And so that's kind of what we felt yesterday, and
Speaker 1: the stadium satisfacts. The stadium, by the way, is spectacular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's really it looks it looked, you know, in
Speaker 1: some of the shots on television, especially the ground level shots,
Speaker 1: it didn't look real. It looked fake to me, right,
Speaker 1: it looked like a fake background. Somebody did some fantadio
Speaker 1: video game. And it's neat because it's an open air stadium,
Speaker 1: but it's got the transparent roof on it, right, so
Speaker 1: the light comes in. If it's breezy, the breeze comes in.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the reason, because the lighting is
Speaker 1: so good in there. Yeah, that it looked it didn't
Speaker 1: look real. It looked like a video game, and uh,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. And then I found out that the
Speaker 1: field was one hundred feet below ground. So basically what
Speaker 1: you see when you're walking there is the top of
Speaker 1: the stadium and that's just about it, and the rest
Speaker 1: of it's all in the ground. So yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 1: cool place, pretty cool, cool scene, and a pretty cool
Speaker 1: ending for the Cowboys that I think they were quite
Speaker 1: fortunate to be able. It's really weird. They should have
Speaker 1: won last week and they didn't. They might have should
Speaker 1: have lost this one, and they and they tell people
Speaker 1: it balances out all the time. I don't care if
Speaker 1: we complain about bad calls. I don't care if we
Speaker 1: complain about bad plays. It just balances out. When it
Speaker 1: all said, you could say that we could have, oh
Speaker 1: not won several games, not last year, but the year
Speaker 1: before that. Right, So, I mean, you know, you started
Speaker 1: talking about the different penalties and oh well Brady only
Speaker 1: through one interception. He really didn't throw two interceptions. You know,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter which game and all the stats.
Speaker 1: It all comes down to you have to make your
Speaker 1: plays regardless of what the calls are. And I as
Speaker 1: much as I'm still gonna really have some problems with
Speaker 1: the officiating, which was especially uneven yesterday. I thought they would.
Speaker 1: I thought they were pretty bad. I thought even some
Speaker 1: of the plays that the calls they made for us
Speaker 1: there was there were calls that were tikie tack and
Speaker 1: then there were some that were obvious that they didn't
Speaker 1: throw a flag gun, like the interference on the Oh
Speaker 1: the guy drove in, It's like, yeah, you dove right
Speaker 1: through his value, right. He first of all, he grabbed
Speaker 1: make sure he had his arm. That's why he couldn't
Speaker 1: catch the bright um. But anyway, when it was halftime,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, Cowboys are up fourteen eleven, and I'm going, okay,
Speaker 1: they dominated this first half and they were only three
Speaker 1: points and if you looked at the yardage, it was
Speaker 1: two seventy three to one ninety nine. The Cowboys had
Speaker 1: rushed for ninety six I think it was, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers forty five. And the first downs in the yeast thirteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that's a record, franchise record, tied an NFL
Speaker 1: record for first downs in a quarter. Um. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, and here they are it's only fourteen eleven. So,
Speaker 1: but a win is a winning two different halves, right,
Speaker 1: it was two different halfs. Yeah, especially possession and there
Speaker 1: weren't any possessions eight. It's like that's you're usually getting
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen somewhere around there. So yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: strange game. Uh, and I don't know where you want
Speaker 1: to go. I got like half a dozen mix shots
Speaker 1: for you want to start off with one shot? It
Speaker 1: was us. We got a Mike shot right off the bat,
Speaker 1: first quarter, Mick shot. Yeah. Yeah. The Cowboys first wins
Speaker 1: scoring less than thirty points since Game fifteen of twenty eighteen. Wow.
Speaker 1: The last previous fifteen wins they had scored thirty points
Speaker 1: and it never won a game scoring less New Orleans
Speaker 1: twenty Uh it was they beat Tampa Bay. The last
Speaker 1: time they had won one without scoring thirty was twenty
Speaker 1: seven twenty Tampa Bay. Okay, so yeah, sometimes you gotta
Speaker 1: win twenty to seventeen, right, and they hadn't been doing
Speaker 1: that because they always you got to win close games better,
Speaker 1: lower than thirty point games. Yeah, absolutely, So, um, what
Speaker 1: does that say the defense? And it's almost like everybody's
Speaker 1: applauding the defense, and I'm going, okay, but gave up
Speaker 1: four hundred and some yards and you know, three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty eight passing and and by the grace of God,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns got called back and then he was it.
Speaker 1: Did he hit the up. He hit the upright on
Speaker 1: that field goal, right, So they left seventeen points easy
Speaker 1: on the field and probably twenty one because their first
Speaker 1: in goal at the two on that drive that they
Speaker 1: ended up tying the game the field goal at the
Speaker 1: end and they get an illegal shift. Now it's first
Speaker 1: in goal at the seven incompletion, And then I thought
Speaker 1: I was watching Bob Lilly out there Parsons chasing Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert for an eighteen yard sack. Did you see how
Speaker 1: quickly he closed? And see, you just can't teach that,
Speaker 1: and you can see it when he came out of college,
Speaker 1: all the plays that they showed on him, he was
Speaker 1: closing quickly. And we commented on that before we even
Speaker 1: drafted him. When you make that kind of space disappear
Speaker 1: like that, the qualit back panics. Yeah, he thinks he
Speaker 1: think he could back up. I got okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even. You don't even. It's gonna be a situation
Speaker 1: where they're and they already well, I mean, they're in
Speaker 1: their game plan and they got to figure out where
Speaker 1: number eleven is. Okay, and when the beauty of it,
Speaker 1: we just we just found something and we knew it
Speaker 1: was there. Yeah, I mean what we say when Lawrence
Speaker 1: got hurt. First thing we said, they gotta they gotta
Speaker 1: start rushing Parsons, and and and the and the thing
Speaker 1: I think Urban needs to understand is like, well, he's
Speaker 1: going to be the starting defensive end. No, he's not
Speaker 1: going to be the starting defensive end. He had thirty
Speaker 1: nine snaps, so fifty five percent of the snaps. So
Speaker 1: they when they first put him out there like that,
Speaker 1: the Chargers had a target on him, like I told you,
Speaker 1: even going to run at his little skinny ass. And
Speaker 1: then they started just putting him in more passing Suit.
Speaker 1: I think it had as much to do with I mean,
Speaker 1: it takes a lot to exert that kind of effort, yes,
Speaker 1: on every play when you're a Russian. Well, let me
Speaker 1: say this. It started off like you said this, Skinney,
Speaker 1: the lads was in trouble, but as the game will on,
Speaker 1: he wore them. Second half was amazing. And he wasn't
Speaker 1: just him. He saw doing doing some getting some good
Speaker 1: work in. Everyone kind of followed suit after that. He
Speaker 1: created so much habit. They're three hundred plus yards passing.
Speaker 1: They were almost just like nickel and dimes. They they
Speaker 1: reduced their passing game down to the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: and the closer they got to the end zone, the
Speaker 1: less effective they were. You know what, I liken it
Speaker 1: too and when, and I think I tweeted it out
Speaker 1: at halftime. I know I tweeted it out at halftime,
Speaker 1: even though Michael Parsons, I don't even know if he
Speaker 1: had was credited with a quarterback pressure in the first half,
Speaker 1: but just once but in the first half half, No,
Speaker 1: he got, he got. I don't even know what his
Speaker 1: stats were or anything. I just said he can be
Speaker 1: an elite pass rusher in this league. And it's almost
Speaker 1: like a great cornerback shutting down one side of the
Speaker 1: field because they have to know where he is. And
Speaker 1: even if he's not getting credited with a pressure or
Speaker 1: a sack or anything like that, just the mere fact
Speaker 1: his closing speed is so unreal with four three five
Speaker 1: speed and has quickness, it's a factor to the off
Speaker 1: exactly where that quarterback has always got to be aware
Speaker 1: of this guy coming off the edge or up the
Speaker 1: middle or wherever, and it's going to affect them as
Speaker 1: far as getting the ball out. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: almost like, you know when the quarterback goes to line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, he's identifying the middle linebacker. He's identifying. He
Speaker 1: had three three hurries. The Cowboys had five in the
Speaker 1: first half. He had three, didn't have any tackles, but
Speaker 1: he was coming. And then at the end when he
Speaker 1: did his press conference, he was complaining that, you know,
Speaker 1: we got to have more. He goes out, I didn't
Speaker 1: do enough because what m ended up happening is when
Speaker 1: he wasn't rushing the quarterback from defensive end, he wasn't
Speaker 1: playing any linebacker. They never put him back in linebacker.
Speaker 1: And see, I think that they made the decision when
Speaker 1: Lawrence went down on Wednesday that they are just going
Speaker 1: to play him at defensive end because being his second
Speaker 1: NFL game, they didn't want to overload him, just like
Speaker 1: with any rookie, right, and so they don't. Now going forward,
Speaker 1: he is going to show that he can. He showed
Speaker 1: it right off the bat, he was calling the signals
Speaker 1: his first game in the NFL. He can handle it mentally,
Speaker 1: but they just wanted to make sure we're not going
Speaker 1: to overload his plates. His first time to play this
Speaker 1: position at this level, and he didn't play that position
Speaker 1: basically in college although he did in high school. But okay,
Speaker 1: now going forward, he can handle this, he can handle that.
Speaker 1: And when you get your guys back. You hopefully get
Speaker 1: Gregory back this week, and then six weeks from now
Speaker 1: you get Orange back. You can use him. You can
Speaker 1: start him at linebacker, and then in passing situations you
Speaker 1: can line him up off the edge. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to handle the full door. So I was number
Speaker 1: seventy four for charges, the backup tackle who was stormed
Speaker 1: Norton right, nothing and nothing was getting his bucket. But
Speaker 1: that's what was going on. He probably was black the
Speaker 1: game was over. He was holding almost every play and
Speaker 1: when you look at that charges offensive line, they remind
Speaker 1: me of the Raiders back in the day. Almost every
Speaker 1: play you could see someone being held. So we talked
Speaker 1: about the calls that were made. They missed a lot
Speaker 1: o those. One time Parstons came through. This is after
Speaker 1: some crap call. They picked up some call we got
Speaker 1: and he's running. He's rushing through. He went outside and
Speaker 1: just before the quarterback through the ball, he was spun
Speaker 1: by seventy before he literally grabbed him and spun him
Speaker 1: and Parston's hand you could see quarterbacks over here, he's
Speaker 1: trying to rest the guy spun him like that and
Speaker 1: you can see his hand going like that. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: make that kind of move unless someone just grab you
Speaker 1: and you're trying to. Of course, set it with the referee.
Speaker 1: They did not call it, but I saw the Sunday
Speaker 1: Night game. They called that same look in the Sunday
Speaker 1: Night game. So it just lets you know they just
Speaker 1: couldn't handle all the infractions that the charges with the
Speaker 1: the and they ended up throwing. They were in double
Speaker 1: digits at half time. It could have been more. It
Speaker 1: could have been more. So I think when Gregory gets
Speaker 1: back then Gregory and Armstrong, I think they're good with
Speaker 1: that at defensive end. Then they could spot him at times.
Speaker 1: But he goes back in place linebacker and you were right,
Speaker 1: he said. Somebody asked him when this the last time
Speaker 1: he played defensive end? It was high school. When did
Speaker 1: you know you were going to play defensive end? He
Speaker 1: goes after practice on Wednesday. They called him in and said, okay,
Speaker 1: here's what we're doing, and got him as ready as possible,
Speaker 1: and you know, he was pretty ready, and you're right.
Speaker 1: His speed. It takes me back to training camp that
Speaker 1: hard knocks line when Dak's watching him, and he did
Speaker 1: some play where he was just so sudden and and
Speaker 1: and and Dak goes, um, I'll clean it up as
Speaker 1: good as I can. He said, damn, he's fast, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't damn okay, and and yeah, yeah right, I
Speaker 1: think I get away with that, right. So yeah, he was, Uh,
Speaker 1: he was amazing, and uh, you know, he ended up
Speaker 1: finishing the game with I think it was just like
Speaker 1: three tackles, but he has the sack, he had a
Speaker 1: tackle for a loss, four quarterback hits. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a menace out there, and they still threw for
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty eight yards. I think I saw
Speaker 1: your friends at Pro Football Focus had him as the
Speaker 1: number two rated pass rusher in the league. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: with a nineties something great well, And the only reason
Speaker 1: maybe they got that right. The only reason I felt
Speaker 1: like he could do well is because you know, I
Speaker 1: can't think of the guy in the is it freening
Speaker 1: for the coat? That's exactly what I was thinking. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, when y'all saw he was kind of
Speaker 1: new a guy that's small, but he's able to use
Speaker 1: it to his advantage the big guys. You know, that's
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. Same thing, make you laugh,
Speaker 1: make you cry. It's just hard for him to get
Speaker 1: down there to deal with somebody that's small and dynamic.
Speaker 1: Of course, I figured it would work out in his favor,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know he would wear him down, like
Speaker 1: the entire second half that that was a pleasant suppost.
Speaker 1: And the thing about about him and Parsons is that
Speaker 1: he's not that small, but he's built load of the ground.
Speaker 1: And then that's the exactly right And then that's exactly
Speaker 1: who I would think of, because you think of these,
Speaker 1: especially a four three defensive end, being a big, rangy
Speaker 1: guy type of guys. Yeah, I tried six four h
Speaker 1: and you know, he's more like a six two guy
Speaker 1: who can get load of the ground. And he's so fast,
Speaker 1: you know, he covers ground, so he does doesn't have
Speaker 1: the link that you're looking for. To your point, as
Speaker 1: far as running at him, he doesn't have the link
Speaker 1: with his arms. I think it's thirty two inch arms
Speaker 1: where he can't hold off a tackle. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: very avage. Yeah, he's just got to beat him with
Speaker 1: his first step at his speed. But he's got strength,
Speaker 1: and you don't realize how big he is because you
Speaker 1: when he's around everybody else six three is okay. Well,
Speaker 1: I happened to step into the elevator when he was
Speaker 1: going up at the hotel on Saturday night, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he's pretty big. He's a rock. He's
Speaker 1: a rock. And the other thing is he loves the
Speaker 1: game exactly. He's got more want to yeah than about
Speaker 1: anybody that he'll come again, you know. And we talked
Speaker 1: all week about worrying about Joey Bosa. Yeah, he stole
Speaker 1: the joke. You know, I knows got tyranny. We got
Speaker 1: we got twenty twenty minutes in. But the guy that
Speaker 1: surprised me was Terence State. He was the unsizing because Scott.
Speaker 1: They gave him some help, but not every play right.
Speaker 1: The tight end was one negative. The yeah he lost
Speaker 1: him one time. Uh uh. The running backs were chipping.
Speaker 1: There was one play where he had beaten Steel to
Speaker 1: the inside and Pollard came across the formation and just
Speaker 1: lamb blasted them, just came out of nowhere and nailed him.
Speaker 1: But Steel, they left him out there several times, to
Speaker 1: the point at one point they moved him over to
Speaker 1: the right side, and it's like, oh, you want to
Speaker 1: go against Tyrann Smith. Okay, so let's see. And then
Speaker 1: and then the second half they he wasn't an every
Speaker 1: down outside the linebacker defensive end. They were spotting them
Speaker 1: in pass rush situations, so it was almost they reduced
Speaker 1: them to a part time player. That was amazing. Uh,
Speaker 1: just to clear it up on Parsons and uh, he's
Speaker 1: six three and one eighth, so he's actually taller than
Speaker 1: we were giving him credit for. I said, yeah, six
Speaker 1: three and eight, all right, And he's his arm length
Speaker 1: is shorter than I gave him, really thirty one and
Speaker 1: a half arms. So that is why the scouts projected
Speaker 1: him as a linebacker and not as a defensive end
Speaker 1: right and edge rusher. I'm not so much in edge rusher,
Speaker 1: but being able to play defense in them because of
Speaker 1: the arm length more than anything. Get those eleven inch
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Speaker 1: start at the very end of the game, and what
Speaker 1: was going on with the clock management at the end?
Speaker 1: So I want to see if you guys were right
Speaker 1: there with me. Okay, So they uh, they ended up
Speaker 1: with the second play right, and the ball Tony Pollard,
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard and and a lookout blocked by Ceedee lamb right.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell that was. I think
Speaker 1: he just like, you know what, this guy's coming too fast.
Speaker 1: I'm going to let him go. So it was don't
Speaker 1: get a hold thirty self something after he jumped out
Speaker 1: of the way and then look at the sidelines like, hey,
Speaker 1: you wanted to block this gun. So after the first
Speaker 1: down pass twelve yards to Marie Cooper, it got him
Speaker 1: to the LA once again. What happened to Cooper? They
Speaker 1: said it was a ribbed thing, so they so he
Speaker 1: got clipped when he when when he was making the
Speaker 1: move I think because I thought he got hit in
Speaker 1: the head too, but they said it was a ribbed thing,
Speaker 1: so that cost him a timeout. Yeah, so it stopped
Speaker 1: the clock with thirty six seconds to go, and so
Speaker 1: you guys would probably like me, Okay, let's make sure
Speaker 1: that you know you get another ten fifteen yards, but
Speaker 1: drain that clock, right. So the first play was the
Speaker 1: real quick out to Cedric Wilson four yards any steps
Speaker 1: out of bounds, So that stopped the clock with thirty
Speaker 1: three seconds left. They went the three wide receivers and
Speaker 1: Schultz flanked out. So it's second at six at the
Speaker 1: forty one, and they run Pollard for three yards and
Speaker 1: I'm going, okay, that's gonna take some time off the clock.
Speaker 1: So now it's third and three at the thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and my math is telling me that's a fifty six
Speaker 1: yard field goal. You need to make this a little
Speaker 1: easier for zeroline, right, And they got one time out left,
Speaker 1: so the clock's ticking and ticking, and I'm going, whoa, well, no, whoa,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know, if you're not ready,
Speaker 1: if you're not ready to snap the ball, at least
Speaker 1: called time out, right, And then they were gonna run
Speaker 1: a play. So here's no, the intention was to run
Speaker 1: a play. They were going to run a play. They
Speaker 1: lost track of the clock. So here's what happened. They
Speaker 1: ended up with a personnel malfunction. Pollard was coming off
Speaker 1: the field and he wasn't supposed to come off the field,
Speaker 1: so they had to shoot him back on all right.
Speaker 1: And then in the meantime, for some reason, they were
Speaker 1: following the clock on their spectacular video board above. Well
Speaker 1: that video board. After a play, they'll show a replay
Speaker 1: up there, right, so the score and the time goes away,
Speaker 1: and so then they they I think they kind of panicked,
Speaker 1: like okay, and then I think when they saw the
Speaker 1: clock again, it was down to seventeen, and that's what
Speaker 1: they decided. Okay, got McCarthy said, once he got under seventeen,
Speaker 1: it's almost like their policy just take it on, just
Speaker 1: take just you know. Kellen Moore, he got under seventeen
Speaker 1: and looked like they were trying to snap the ball.
Speaker 1: Dacks look like, he's I think they told now. I
Speaker 1: think they told him let it run, kick in the
Speaker 1: field goal. But they wanted so he explained it at
Speaker 1: the at the top of his press conference, and then
Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know if he explained that well.
Speaker 1: So I said, can you do that again? Was your
Speaker 1: intention to run a play? And he goes, yes, we
Speaker 1: wanted to run a third McCarthy. Okay, wanted to run
Speaker 1: a third down play. He goes, but we lost the clock. Well,
Speaker 1: so what you have to do in these games? Because
Speaker 1: I had to get used to it too. There's there's
Speaker 1: the ribbon board at the ends, and that one stays
Speaker 1: up there the whole time, but the other ones disappear
Speaker 1: right right, and so somebody said, oh, where the chargers messing?
Speaker 1: I said, no, you gotta know it because Jack was
Speaker 1: looking at the right one. He knew what was going on,
Speaker 1: and I think when they thought it get it under seventeen,
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, so he's actually listening to them
Speaker 1: as when I'm thinking he's about to run a play right,
Speaker 1: so but he can hear that, and I think they
Speaker 1: cut it off with whatever the play clock was at.
Speaker 1: But since there was so little time left, the play
Speaker 1: clock was still going, so they just let it run
Speaker 1: out on purpose. Do you know what I was looking at?
Speaker 1: Can you do an intentional grounding from shotgun? That's what
Speaker 1: I was hoping that. Oh, I see it. If they
Speaker 1: did snap it, he could just you know, yeah, can
Speaker 1: you do that from shotgun? Understand? I think you got
Speaker 1: to be under center? Yeah. Yeah. At other levels you
Speaker 1: can do it from the shot or you can do
Speaker 1: what Brady did at the end game. He just threw
Speaker 1: it to the over the guy's head on the outside.
Speaker 1: You got to have somebody over there, I know, like
Speaker 1: Texas High school, maybe even in college. You can now
Speaker 1: do it out of the shotgun. At first you couldn't,
Speaker 1: and then when everyone was going to the spread and
Speaker 1: the shotgun, they changed after the rule to where you can.
Speaker 1: The other part of that is Kellen Moore was I
Speaker 1: think he was relying on the ribbon right, that is
Speaker 1: that that stays there, right, and he his vision got
Speaker 1: blocked by one of the sideline cameras like the CBS
Speaker 1: has the roaming sideline camera, and it happened, it happened
Speaker 1: to block the clock at that point. But you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the first thing I know when I'm
Speaker 1: doing a game as as a broadcaster, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, where's that permanent clock. And coaches are
Speaker 1: like that too, But in this case, they let's look
Speaker 1: at this, guys. To the other time, the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: have blown this. It took me the fact that we
Speaker 1: didn't blow this. That's that's an improvement. Well, here's to
Speaker 1: we will just take this and blow it all. It
Speaker 1: took me a good quarter to find the clock that
Speaker 1: had the thing up there the whole time, because they
Speaker 1: had some on the side sideline and that one would disappear.
Speaker 1: And so you have got a heavier advertising right by god,
Speaker 1: don't let us know what. Yeah, here's the way I
Speaker 1: look at it. Though. Yes, you'd like to run a play,
Speaker 1: you'd like to run a good play and get ten
Speaker 1: yards or whatever her. But I do like the fact
Speaker 1: that once things were going haywire, they just decided to
Speaker 1: play a concern. They they can't panic calm it down,
Speaker 1: and they wanted to make sure that they had that
Speaker 1: time out, a full time out to use to get
Speaker 1: their kicker onto the field. And everything's calm, even if
Speaker 1: it is a fifty six, and it's and it's definitely
Speaker 1: as it was proven, it was definitely within his range
Speaker 1: to take a fifty six. And if you if you
Speaker 1: hit it well, it's perfect playing conditions. If you hit
Speaker 1: it well, and that's his you're gonna make it from
Speaker 1: fifty six just as as you'd make it from fifty one, right,
Speaker 1: forty six whatever, Yeah, and it wasn't worth the gamble
Speaker 1: for life. Oh we're gonna get fives. I was watching
Speaker 1: him in pregame in Tampa and it was happening to
Speaker 1: be from fifty six yards and he was nailing them
Speaker 1: in Tampa and the one he missed one and the
Speaker 1: one he missed in Tampa it was sixty and he
Speaker 1: just miss hit it. Here's the other thing to consider
Speaker 1: on that, okay, is all right, you get a holding call, right,
Speaker 1: you get a bad play whatever where you lose your
Speaker 1: yardage and now you're out, you're out of field goal range.
Speaker 1: And you know if all start like you know, now
Speaker 1: you're back five yards whenever that yeah, so that's why
Speaker 1: you want to make sure everything's under control. And once
Speaker 1: once it was getting away from them, just okay. Just
Speaker 1: the other part of it is it's a tie game
Speaker 1: at the very worst. Pressure is not it's not you're
Speaker 1: not trailing, you know. And you're right that the environment
Speaker 1: was sterile, no wind, you got a home crowd, home crowd.
Speaker 1: And that's his Hans line right there. That's the side
Speaker 1: of the because you can get more power right coming
Speaker 1: around as opposed to trying to, yeah, push it to them.
Speaker 1: So but that's what happened. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, there they go, mismanaging the clock. Well
Speaker 1: there was a reason, and it was almost like the
Speaker 1: unintended consequences worked out for him, right, and many times
Speaker 1: that does not us. And I liked the whole approach
Speaker 1: on that drive too, and made plenty of time, uh
Speaker 1: to go when it started when it started. But even
Speaker 1: when they got down um tears in the two minute range,
Speaker 1: they were running the ball, they were to what did
Speaker 1: they re mind you of re mind you of Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay against us. It's the exact try, that's right. And
Speaker 1: I felt just as comfortable as the Bucks fans felt
Speaker 1: when Brady took over. So they ran the ball. Seven
Speaker 1: of the eleven place seven of them. Now the differences,
Speaker 1: and they were and they were gaining yards now also
Speaker 1: by the way the differences. Brady got him down to
Speaker 1: the eighteen yard line there. Six. Yeah, he spent three
Speaker 1: plays just into the stage I try. He got him
Speaker 1: down there with with forty five seconds left, but we
Speaker 1: didn't give the pacol. So you know that's that's right,
Speaker 1: that's right, Um, all right, we're up against another break here,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk. How about we talk about a
Speaker 1: cornerback when we come back here, and two dbs and
Speaker 1: a running backs okay, when we come back here. One bags.
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Speaker 1: Cowboy fans on that Red Eye coming back. It was
Speaker 1: pretty packed with cowboys. How many I never understood why
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Speaker 1: coming back to the hotel and Dave Hellman and I
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with the cornerback or running
Speaker 1: back situation. Well, I think the running back to start
Speaker 1: tell me about it, and and I think we need
Speaker 1: to put it in perspective of what was going on
Speaker 1: why they did it that way, And it goes back
Speaker 1: to what I said earlier about making those pass rushers
Speaker 1: play the run. And I think they figured out if
Speaker 1: if if we're gonna make them play the run, we're
Speaker 1: going to hit him with speed to the outside. And
Speaker 1: that's why Pollard got the carries he got and the
Speaker 1: success he got to when they're playing that I used
Speaker 1: to say back in the nine is when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: with Emmett Smith and that offensive line would play a
Speaker 1: three four defense, just go right after those outside game
Speaker 1: backers because they're they're they're the rushed quarterback right make
Speaker 1: them play the run. And the Cowboys exposed that time
Speaker 1: and time again with some of his outside stuff that
Speaker 1: he can do better than Zeke. Zeke is hitting between
Speaker 1: the tackles and had really there was some power there.
Speaker 1: It was and that's when those guards kicking. But and
Speaker 1: then you give them. Yeah, the changeups. Not a slow pitch.
Speaker 1: This one's fast. And it worked perfectly. They rushed for
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety eight yards, so the most yards
Speaker 1: rushing since they went for two twenty three in the
Speaker 1: season finale in twenty nineteen. Uh So, yeah, they had
Speaker 1: it going and they kept him off balance, and I
Speaker 1: think that helped dull their their pass rush because now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they got to worry about something
Speaker 1: else and both he could not handle that. He could
Speaker 1: not hand the loud tackles in the run situation, right
Speaker 1: because they were blowing him off the ball. He kept
Speaker 1: trying to go around, just like you were talking about
Speaker 1: the skinny asses. Yeah right, he looked like a skinny
Speaker 1: ass when when he was trying to go around still
Speaker 1: and trying to go around Tyler, it's just not gonna work.
Speaker 1: So so I don't think you know, we got a
Speaker 1: running back controversy. I think you've got a two back system.
Speaker 1: You got a two back system now, uh And people
Speaker 1: now have to worry when they could see pole and
Speaker 1: you know, and they early in the game they ran
Speaker 1: a couple of two backs too. They were both there
Speaker 1: at the same time, and you know, one guy would
Speaker 1: go out in the pass pattern the other guy played.
Speaker 1: What was these numbers? He was no. Seventy one rush
Speaker 1: one he had sixteen for seventy one about receiving and
Speaker 1: the two for twenty six he got. He maybe had
Speaker 1: more than that because I'm not sure if I factored
Speaker 1: in the fourteen yards he got on the blast play
Speaker 1: of the first tas he got a y. That's right,
Speaker 1: it was received yards. I'm sorry, that's yeah, that's receiving yards. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So um that that texts onto the receiving yardage. At halftime,
Speaker 1: he had no receptions for fourteen yards, so they they
Speaker 1: combined for five catches for twenty seven yards, so he
Speaker 1: got over a hundred so yeah, total yards basically. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think it just kept him off balance. So
Speaker 1: uh and that helps the next game, right, Philadelphia has
Speaker 1: got to worry about it. They all know how you're
Speaker 1: gonna study. Yeah, which one you're gonna study for it?
Speaker 1: Because that's a quick hitter and the other one was
Speaker 1: all power, so they can buy rushing wise, they can
Speaker 1: buy twenty nine carries for one hundred and eighty yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. You'll take that out of your running game.
Speaker 1: Whether yeah he's doing it, who's doing either, as long
Speaker 1: as it ain't quarterback, that's right. And with the additional
Speaker 1: games in, you know, seventeen game season and so forth,
Speaker 1: you want to keep them both healthy and and that's
Speaker 1: the trend all around the league. He gets to have
Speaker 1: more than one running back, and maybe Tennessee might be
Speaker 1: the only team that that just goes. So don't don't
Speaker 1: minimize what Zeke did in this game, right, and he
Speaker 1: almost made need both of them. Spectacular player we talked
Speaker 1: about Adelie. He plays some ball. Yesterday he made some
Speaker 1: big plays. He almost made going for a touchdown, right, yes,
Speaker 1: especially when he dove and he was smart enough to
Speaker 1: go up in the air because you know, if you
Speaker 1: leave and you just get the ball across before you land. Uh,
Speaker 1: he came within three yards, all right. Treyvon Trayvon digs
Speaker 1: he's on a pace of interception a game. Hey, was
Speaker 1: that a hell of a pick? That was? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a kick. That's not luck, that's no tip. You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, he saw it and he went for it.
Speaker 1: That's what we talked about. It was like a diving reception.
Speaker 1: He jumped it. He jumped it. He knew what was happening.
Speaker 1: He didn't wait for everything. He was aggressive for it,
Speaker 1: knowing what the quarterback wants to fill up. Covering one
Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the league and Alan Alan,
Speaker 1: that was a great battle that Alan had four catches
Speaker 1: for one oh eight and one of them was forty
Speaker 1: two yards where they just lost them. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they were doing. They had a couple of plays
Speaker 1: like the one that got called back Ye Sky's twenty
Speaker 1: yards down field up by himself's them, right, And I
Speaker 1: don't know what the safety is doing. I don't know
Speaker 1: why digs let up on the Alan. If you keep running,
Speaker 1: that isn't another interception for you, right, And you know
Speaker 1: I did it too. You know, especially as a rookie,
Speaker 1: you just kind of you're thinking the plays away and
Speaker 1: you know you're not supposed to do that. You know
Speaker 1: you have to be on point at all times, and
Speaker 1: that one moment, it just takes that one moment moment
Speaker 1: and he got a fingertip on it. Didn't. He still
Speaker 1: got it. He still tested and that I believe that
Speaker 1: was a cover too, because he trailed the entire time.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming the safety is over the top because
Speaker 1: he was the touch sort of what happened to Anthony
Speaker 1: Brothy Brown. But he wasn't well, he was he was
Speaker 1: trailing and he got no help. Never said if you
Speaker 1: got a fingertip on it, would you catch it. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna lie.
Speaker 1: They always wanted to go up, just like the rebound.
Speaker 1: Give me those two hands. I'm gonna I'm gonna fight
Speaker 1: you off. You know, it's a fight for the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be trying to do all that with
Speaker 1: one hand. I didn't know the ou. I just went
Speaker 1: to grammar. So they got they have And he's talking
Speaker 1: about DJH interception of the year. There was the dumbest
Speaker 1: interception of the year. But go ahead. So they've got
Speaker 1: go ahead. They're not listening to Bill. They've got four interceptions.
Speaker 1: They got four interceptions in two games last year. They
Speaker 1: didn't get the fourth interception until the eleventh game. WHOA.
Speaker 1: And it's not it's not just that they're getting interceptions.
Speaker 1: I mean that was the best fight. Now, the play
Speaker 1: of the year for us, it really was. That saved
Speaker 1: the touchdown was CAZy. That's how you say his name,
Speaker 1: CAZy crazy CAZy. Yeah, well my, my, my, my quiet
Speaker 1: teacher was kau Z Well did the same way. But
Speaker 1: now that to me, right now, that's just the play
Speaker 1: of the year so far. And he gets the interception
Speaker 1: in the end zone. In the end zone, I mean
Speaker 1: that saved us, which is another could have been touchdown. Right.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. They're acquiring players with a history
Speaker 1: of making pay. Yes, I mean Diggs. There's a reason
Speaker 1: Digs can catch the football. They called Casey, they called
Speaker 1: him seven picks one year. He has he has a nickname, Yeah,
Speaker 1: some kind of nickname out there. So you right, and
Speaker 1: I let me eat crow a little bit because of course,
Speaker 1: when they brought it in, CAZy and Coast and all
Speaker 1: those guys with the injured, the achilles and all that, Like, man,
Speaker 1: what are these bombs doing here? Kean O'Neill, Yeah, these
Speaker 1: guys are. They're balling right, They're stepping in and doing
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to be to show you how to
Speaker 1: play this defense. So they're leading by example in in
Speaker 1: two games games they've got six takeaways. They got the
Speaker 1: six takeaway last year in the eighth game. So and
Speaker 1: that was one of their problems, right Delton that the
Speaker 1: end of the year they started started getting them getting them.
Speaker 1: They started right now it's quarter starting to continue that.
Speaker 1: And you know what, the other guy that was sort
Speaker 1: of I think an unstanding hegaro at that side of
Speaker 1: the ball was jay Ron Curse. I have him right here,
Speaker 1: but I expect him to be like a special teams
Speaker 1: But boy, and they was my unsung star. Last week
Speaker 1: they created they created a spot for him. If you
Speaker 1: look at the starting lineup he started, they only had
Speaker 1: two linebackers out there. They've been playing him like a
Speaker 1: big linebacker in the slot. Uh. And he's way better
Speaker 1: than that. He's much more than that. I see him
Speaker 1: as a free safety. So, but he's versial enough where
Speaker 1: he can play in the box or he can play
Speaker 1: back in His line was six combined tackles. He had
Speaker 1: a tackle for a loss, a quarter back hit, and
Speaker 1: one pass defense and he should have had an intercede. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was up there. He had eleven tackles. Last week
Speaker 1: he had he had forty snaps on against Tampa. He
Speaker 1: had forty snaps on defense and twenty one on special.
Speaker 1: This guy, man, I'm definitely keeping my eye on this
Speaker 1: guy's he's he's Oura Wilson. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: this pay did for us last year. He only missed
Speaker 1: four defensive No, that was CAZy Curse sixty nine of
Speaker 1: seventy one snaps ninety seven percent. There you go. So
Speaker 1: that's because Donovan Wilson wasn't there, right, and and and
Speaker 1: he's but what they started, and they had Kazy Hooker
Speaker 1: and Curse out there first for for the starters. So
Speaker 1: they're taking Jordan Lewis off the field. Well no, okay,
Speaker 1: so they were playing Jordan Lewis. They it was kind
Speaker 1: of a big die, right, So who are the linebackers?
Speaker 1: The majority of it was I'm talking starters, starters. Did
Speaker 1: you did you get this? Yeah? It was vander esh
Speaker 1: and Smith. Okay, they well they and they only listed
Speaker 1: three well they listed three defensive lineman, but Parsons was
Speaker 1: probably Parsons was one of them. So the majority of
Speaker 1: the game it was vander esh in Jalen at the linebacker.
Speaker 1: When they went to the nickel uh at times Jalen
Speaker 1: would come out and Keane O'Neill came in, and comp
Speaker 1: times Neil was in and Jalen Smith stayed stayed in
Speaker 1: instead of Vander. They kind of so the five dbs
Speaker 1: they had on the field to start the game, Lewis,
Speaker 1: Kasey Lewis, Lewis. Lewis didn't start there, you go, so
Speaker 1: Curse was in Lewis's spot, So they listed they basically
Speaker 1: listed three safeties in two corners. Yeah, so Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: was not on the field to start the right but
Speaker 1: I mean, but he played in the sea. He was out.
Speaker 1: Let's see what they're doing with it. Lewis had seventy
Speaker 1: two percent of the snaps. Okay, okay, was out there
Speaker 1: before I know, we gotta go. But you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about the course how he played. That interception just
Speaker 1: really would have topped off an excellent game, right, Was
Speaker 1: that the horrible call that I thought it was? Yes?
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, I don't know what did
Speaker 1: he do? I don't understand why they would make that call.
Speaker 1: And and and I was so mad at Romo yesterday
Speaker 1: because he kept co signing bad calls. And then even
Speaker 1: when they held up Vanderah coming through. Oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you don't know. The man grabbed him in his ear
Speaker 1: hole and slung him down. And he seemed to be
Speaker 1: so forgiving to these referees. And one of the worst
Speaker 1: ref games I think I've ever seen, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: sit on Romo's mind that he's a cowboy's broadcast. He's trying.
Speaker 1: It's a natural thing that Akman went through the same
Speaker 1: thing and did the same I don't know. Hayman never
Speaker 1: seemed to like the cowboys when he that prob r.
Speaker 1: And it's, by the way, making sure that he's not
Speaker 1: you know, here's my last mix shot Vanderesh is Vandaresh's
Speaker 1: I'm glad I stuted. Here you go, Chris, don't miss it.
Speaker 1: He ain't missing that. I thought it was a purposeful no.
Speaker 1: Vanderesh's sack. That was their first one of the year,
Speaker 1: So it took him eighty eight minutes to get a sack,
Speaker 1: and then they ended up with just two in the game,
Speaker 1: and they barely got credited with the second one. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take it for my man, absolutely, my man. Micah,
Speaker 1: all right, that does it for Mick shots. We got
Speaker 1: so much more to talk about tomorrow. We're one thirty
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