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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, walcome to move the sticks? DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 2: No Man? Big weekend, Big weekend coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna jump in on the NFL today.

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Speaker 3: It's time for the MCS Game of the Week, presented

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Speaker 1: Nine Well, I think let's start. As we're recording this,

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Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit about this earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week, But my takeaway was, Kyle Shanahan offense, the

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Speaker 1: whole thing is predicated on playing even or with a lead,

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Speaker 1: because everything is about the run action and the pass

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Speaker 1: action looking exactly this, and that's what you can do

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Speaker 1: when when the game is in your favor, or whether

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Speaker 1: it's even when you are trailing. When you get down

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Speaker 1: early in the game and you're trailing, defenses don't give

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Speaker 1: a credit about your run action. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: honor that. So you're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: scheme guys and get them wide open. You're going to

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Speaker 1: have more tight window throws. You're going to have guys

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Speaker 1: that need to win one on one. And while I

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Speaker 1: would give Purdy with his skill set what we've seen

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Speaker 1: thus far the edge over Sam Donald in terms of

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Speaker 1: operating in that environment and seeing things clearly and taking

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Speaker 1: those gimmes and getting them out there on time and

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Speaker 1: getting through progressions, and Shanahan's going to have somebody there

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Speaker 1: for you. I think Sam Donald's better equipped just with

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Speaker 1: arm strength and athleticism and all those different traits that

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Speaker 1: he has that made him a top five pick versus

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Speaker 1: mister irrelevant. I think in if they were to find

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Speaker 1: themselves down in a game, I think that Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: is more equipped to help them get back into the game.

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Speaker 1: If that makes any sense whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: He had a chance to go see the Niners this

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Speaker 3: summer doing training camp, and all the buzz was about

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald being the most talented quarterback in the building.

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Speaker 3: That was when Trey Lance was there and Sam Donald

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Speaker 3: was slinging it all over the yard.

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Speaker 2: Rock Purdy was the guy that it dealt.

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Speaker 3: He was unbeaten as a starter, so Cayl Shanahan naturally

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Speaker 3: felt like he was going to be the guy. There's

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Speaker 3: a part of me though, that thinks if Sam Donald

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Speaker 3: has an opportunity to play that Kyl Shanahan is excited

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Speaker 3: about what Sam Donald can bring.

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Speaker 2: To the team.

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Speaker 3: He expands the field a little bit in terms of

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Speaker 3: his arm talent. May allow him to take more shots

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Speaker 3: down the field and do some more of the things

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Speaker 3: that are also a part of his game plan, his package.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think anything really changes for then, as

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Speaker 3: if anything, they may have more of a deep ball

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Speaker 3: element to their game plan than we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 3: And in terms of like the Rock Purty thing, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be some of these.

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Speaker 2: Moments, right.

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Speaker 3: So we removed Christoan McCaffrey from the lineup one week,

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey Deebo saying with Trent Williams, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: offering any quarterback to function without three of your main cogs,

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Speaker 3: and like that's a part of it. So he will

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Speaker 3: continue to be what Kyle Shanahan wants, which is a

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Speaker 3: pass first point guard at the position for Sam Donald,

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Speaker 3: it'd be interesting. The one thing I will say about

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Speaker 3: this matchup against the Bengals, lou and Aroumo and the

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Speaker 3: Bengals defense are beginning to kind of find their way.

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Speaker 3: Had a lot of chumming off a buye too, but

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Speaker 3: he went off about it, had a lot of turnover

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Speaker 3: in the back end. They're going to face the best

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Speaker 3: version of the Bengals defense that they've seen today.

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Speaker 2: Could be difficult. It may not be on their own.

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Speaker 3: It may just be because the Cincinnati Bengals are playing

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Speaker 3: better and it's finally beginning to click with a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Of young guys playing in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Getting Joe Burrow that rest with the buye with that calf,

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Speaker 1: he was starting to really, you know, starting to get

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Speaker 1: things going, starting to look more like himself. Now he's

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Speaker 1: had some rest. I'm curious to see if we see

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Speaker 1: the best of Joe Burrow. If we do, or in

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Speaker 1: for a heck of a game. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see it and see how that all shakes out. I

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Speaker 1: do think, you know, this forty nine Ers defense is

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Speaker 1: very good. They're very talented, but as you saw Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins light them up a little bit through the air,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow could get loose a little bit with his

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Speaker 1: weapons too in this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hard game for the nine. We'll see if they

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Speaker 3: can come on top. But look, it should be a shoot.

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Speaker 3: I expect to be a one score game going down

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Speaker 3: the stretch, and team while at the end, is probably

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Speaker 3: gonna be a team to wins.

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Speaker 1: Last thing on this one. Going back to Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 1: if he plays well in this game and then say

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Speaker 1: brock Purty comes back in and they go on their

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Speaker 1: run and do whatever they do. This could be a

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Speaker 1: career I want to say career saving, but a career

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Speaker 1: altering game for Sam Donald. Think about this. Number One,

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Speaker 1: you'd see him play really well, which we'll get teams excited.

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Speaker 1: But then you get to see him in an offense

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Speaker 1: that darn near half the league is running right now.

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Speaker 1: In Shanagan's offense, his assistants are everywhere scattered all over

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Speaker 1: the league. So not only are you going to get

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Speaker 1: an endorsement from Kyle, but you're also going to have

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Speaker 1: an example, a proof of concept, so to speak, of

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Speaker 1: him functioning in an offense that so many of the

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Speaker 1: teams run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna have an opportunity and there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: plenty of spaces available.

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Speaker 2: And so this is, I will say, like a big

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Speaker 2: game for Sam Donald. But it's a big.

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Speaker 1: All right, buck, we are We're to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the show here, and I'm curious. We normally do Coaches

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Speaker 1: Corner on Fridays. We switch it to Thursdays this week

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Speaker 1: because we got Feldman, our buddy Brusse Felman coming on

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Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. But what is the word for today?

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Speaker 1: Give us a little wisdom here?

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Speaker 2: What we got? Okay?

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Speaker 3: So the word for the day is determination. And when

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Speaker 3: you look up the word in the dictionary, one of

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Speaker 3: the words that comes along with that is resoluteness. And

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Speaker 3: so that is just a firm belief and an unwavering

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Speaker 3: belief that you're going to be able to get the job.

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Speaker 2: Or task done.

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Speaker 3: When you think about football, really we talk about imposing

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Speaker 3: your will on the opponent. Are you stubborn enough to

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Speaker 3: continue to do what you do in spite of whatever

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Speaker 3: the opposition is doing? And how long can you stick

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Speaker 3: with that? We have seen these two teams that start

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Speaker 3: our one way to in the midion in the game,

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Speaker 3: they shift. They don't believe necessarily in who they are

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Speaker 3: and what they're about. We've had discussions on podcasts where

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Speaker 3: we talked about, Hey, this team possess itself as a

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Speaker 3: tough and physical team, but as soon as it gets tough,

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Speaker 3: they took the till and run. So the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: that you're trying to impress upon your team, whether it's

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Speaker 3: your team at work, your team on the sports field,

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Speaker 3: is can you believe in what we're doing and can

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Speaker 3: you believe in it when everything is going to rot

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Speaker 3: Because the teams that make it to the other side

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Speaker 3: continue to believe when there's really no evidence for them

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Speaker 3: to believe that what they're doing is going to pay off.

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Speaker 3: And so as the coach is impressed upon them, if

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Speaker 3: we continue to do the things the right way, if

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Speaker 3: we continue to follow the process, eventually will be rewarded

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Speaker 3: for our efforts. But the only way you can do

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Speaker 3: that is you have to be determined to get to

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Speaker 3: the other side. You kind of almost have to have

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Speaker 3: and we've talked about this, this competitive arrogance that what

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Speaker 3: you're doing is better than what the opponent is going

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Speaker 3: to do, and at the end of the day, today

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Speaker 3: is going to work out in your favor because you're

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Speaker 3: more determined to do it your way and the opposition

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Speaker 3: is going to do it their way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think determination. I think of the word unwavering

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Speaker 1: is one that comes to mind, like you don't drift

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Speaker 1: off course when you're determined. And I always like to

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Speaker 1: try and when you give us these nuggets, I always

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Speaker 1: try and think of like some alliteration or a way

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Speaker 1: to kind of make this succinct in three points. So

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Speaker 1: I wrote down, when you think about determination, think about

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Speaker 1: non negotiables, like we're not going to negotiate with these things,

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Speaker 1: like this is who we are and this is not

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Speaker 1: something that we're going to drift. It is non negotiable.

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Speaker 1: There are no shortcuts would be the second one. There's

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Speaker 1: no way to get to that destination other than the

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Speaker 1: way that is required. You cannot try and get there

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Speaker 1: and take a shortcut and try and sneak around something

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Speaker 1: that that's not being determined, that's looking for an easy

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Speaker 1: way out. So you've got non negotiables, you've got no shortcuts.

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Speaker 1: And I just wrote down, you never quit, no matter

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Speaker 1: what it looks like, you don't quit. And that's that's

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Speaker 1: something to me that shows determination. Determination doesn't always land

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Speaker 1: you in the winter circle, but determination is an example

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Speaker 1: of you never quitting and never stopping in your pursuit

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Speaker 1: of getting to the winner circle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be hard, but no matter what, you

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Speaker 3: still have faith that you eventually get to the other side.

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Speaker 3: It maybe this year, maybe next year, maybe in five years,

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Speaker 3: but whatever it is, you still come to work every

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Speaker 3: day with that focus in mind. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 3: the championship level. It may take us a while to

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Speaker 3: get there, but we're going to get there. We just

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Speaker 3: have to make sure we continue to show up every

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Speaker 3: day and eventually we'll show out and get it done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking of a team. I'm thinking of the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I know they're coming off of a big

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Speaker 1: loss last week against the Ravens, but if you think

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Speaker 1: about a determined leader and a determined team, I would

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Speaker 1: say the Detroit Lions are a great case in that

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Speaker 1: they have absolutely not negotiated. They have been a belief

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Speaker 1: in a system and a path and a work ethic

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Speaker 1: and a style of play They've committed to that there's

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Speaker 1: no shortcuts. They weren't trying there saying we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: here and go to the NFC Championship game. Year one

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Speaker 1: they're plodding forward and they're taking those positive steps, and

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Speaker 1: there's no there's been no quit in them, even in

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Speaker 1: games that they've lost. If you look at last year,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that'll fight you all the way

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Speaker 1: down to the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they fights you all the way down to the end.

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Speaker 3: Is one of the things I can't wait to see

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Speaker 3: their bounce back game because determined teams, they may have

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Speaker 3: a setback, they may have a hiccup, but they get

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Speaker 3: right back on the course and they continue to plot

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Speaker 3: along like they've been plotting to this point.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: There's this week's edition of Bucky's Coaches Corner. I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys enjoy that as much as I do. Each

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