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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, January twenty first, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where there are

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Speaker 1: only three games left. It's me and your man named

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Speaker 1: G Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Laqwan Jones.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, I guess it was kind of

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Speaker 1: a mixed bag for you guys this weekend. I mean, Florio,

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Speaker 1: you are feeling great. The LaQuan tough ending.

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Speaker 2: Not great, not great at all. It's a bad feeling.

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Speaker 2: And you know, like I took the loss as it is,

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Speaker 2: but you know, we went through mad adversity.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: We started off one and four. We were lasting division

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Speaker 2: like a hell of a journey man. So I'm just

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Speaker 2: happy with the you know, the team and what we

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Speaker 2: have for the future.

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Speaker 1: Florio. Things are things are bright in the mafia right now. Huh. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had to throw on the jersey of the real

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Speaker 3: MVP and oh no, look, I knows to not play great,

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Speaker 3: but the Bills came out and were like, yeah, our

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Speaker 3: number one focal point was stopping Derrick Henry and find

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Speaker 3: me a DC whoever says their number one focal point

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Speaker 3: playing the Bills is stopping James.

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Speaker 1: Cook and I will I will stop hammering this point.

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Speaker 3: But all I'm saying is, thank god my mentions are

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Speaker 3: safe and secure this week, because after two months of

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Speaker 3: Ravens flock fighting Bill's mafia and me being involved in that,

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Speaker 3: it would have been a rough, ugly week, especially if

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Speaker 3: they lost the way.

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Speaker 2: It was starting to look like.

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Speaker 1: I start, I was nervous, but it ended up being

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Speaker 1: a great day. Yep. So so the mafia moves on.

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Speaker 1: We will get to them a little bit later, a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to on this show. We're going to

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Speaker 1: continue our exit interviews. We've got what picks eight through twelve,

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Speaker 1: nine through twelve. That is what we've got. But the

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Speaker 1: big news that has happened also sort of dovetailed into

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Speaker 1: what I wanted to start the show with anybody was

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Speaker 1: kind of recapping divisional weekend. So if you have not

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Speaker 1: heard by now where you've been, But the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 1: are hiring Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson as their new

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Speaker 1: head coach, and I wanted to kind of talk about

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Speaker 1: the divisional weekend in terms of the teams who lost

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Speaker 1: and sort of putting their seasons to bed a little

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Speaker 1: bit and we'll talk about them, you know on our

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Speaker 1: But so I felt like, obviously, this is a great

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Speaker 1: way to start by talking about the Commanders and the Lions.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels was fantastic, yet again goes into ford Field

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Speaker 1: and the Lions just really had no answer for them.

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Speaker 1: But Florie, I'll start with you, Ben Johnson, now out

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Speaker 1: of Detroit going to Chicago. I just put simply, how

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Speaker 1: much does this impact just right now, blind taste tests,

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Speaker 1: not knowing who else is coming in to coach this team.

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Speaker 1: What does this do immediately for you in terms of

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Speaker 1: drafting Lions next year?

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Speaker 3: It makes them riskier for sure, Like I still think

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Speaker 3: I trust like Jamier Gibbs and aman Ras Saint Brown,

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Speaker 3: but anytime you add any sort of unknown variable into it,

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Speaker 3: it makes things a little bit murkier and the range

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Speaker 3: of outcomes a little bit wider. And Ben Johnson has

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Speaker 3: been in oc in this league three years and this

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Speaker 3: blew my mind. In the last two years they have

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Speaker 3: passing touchdowns. Like they do it all. So this is

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Speaker 3: a great hiring for the Bears. It's great for Caleb

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Speaker 3: and everyone depends who comes in. Dan Campbell is still

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Speaker 3: going to lead this team. But everything you hear is

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Speaker 3: like Campbell is the leader. But the coordinators really do

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Speaker 3: build the game plan for each side, so they could

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Speaker 3: they could bring in a great mind, and there's so

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Speaker 3: it should do a fine job. But top four pass touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: So definitely adds a little bit more risk.

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Speaker 1: I would say to these players, so Leqwan you have

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Speaker 1: I need to sit in and unpack something with you

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Speaker 1: text chain that you just I don't really get it.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned to you, without the Detroit Lions, you

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Speaker 1: don't get your most recent Super Bowl. I know we

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Speaker 1: like to laugh about Jared Doufe, but I need you

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Speaker 1: to unpack this. Where did this come from? And does

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Speaker 1: this mean you're just like not punting onlines but you're

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Speaker 1: just need to understand what's going on in your blonde

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Speaker 2: Yes, my hair is blonde right now. And I have

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Speaker 2: been told I am the evil version of a monro

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Speaker 2: Saint Brown. So I am leaning into this villain arc

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Speaker 2: now because I gotta say, Dan Campbell, see you in

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Speaker 2: two weeks, like I've already explained on many areas on

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Speaker 2: the social webs, like that was very disrespect that I

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Speaker 2: took that to the heart, because like, how are you

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Speaker 2: going to look over the Rams? We're the most dangerous

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL. And I feel like more so

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Speaker 2: of like you know what, I'm just gonna turn the knife.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's going to be a drop off

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Speaker 2: part of that locker room, Like who doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: run through a wall for Dan Campbell? But me being

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Speaker 2: in the villain, I am looking forward to their downfall.

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Speaker 2: So I am going to be moving back like Jamiir

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Speaker 2: gives in a mom ra and s Brown because Florio

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Speaker 2: hit it. We might not get this high power offense.

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Speaker 2: We might not get this top five scoring offense because

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Speaker 2: we look at it before Ben Johnson took over that

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Speaker 2: first year Golf and the mon there, you were bottom

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Speaker 2: and being this high power offense they are now. So

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Speaker 2: we look at Dan Campbell like this is going to

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Speaker 2: be all eyes on him. Who is he going to

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Speaker 2: bring in to keep this thing afloat because you might

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Speaker 2: not get the same same the porter that we've seen,

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Speaker 2: you know, wishy wash you this season, but the last

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Speaker 2: two seasons stand the porter. You know, I really feel

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Speaker 2: as though you can still have him as a variable

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Speaker 2: be deployed? Is we're going to see Jamiir Gibbs in

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Speaker 2: these creative offensive schemes. We don't know like it's all

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Speaker 2: going to change, so they definitely get moved back, you know,

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Speaker 2: being that January. Don't marry my words right now, but

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Speaker 2: I would have been Johnson were there or Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: If amm Ros Saint Brown Fish, this is THEU wide

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Speaker 1: receiver one would you dye your hair pink.

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Speaker 2: No, we're done with that.

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Speaker 1: I should have said blue. But whatever, you know, this opportunity,

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Speaker 1: I'll buy his jersey.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 2: That that's something simple that we can accomplish without embarrast

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Speaker 2: me or my wife tempting to leave me.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just I'm just shooting my shot, just

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Speaker 1: seeing what I can get out there, that's all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's just such a big question mark. Part of me

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Speaker 1: know Amana, Saint Brown, Jamiir Gibbs especially, it just feels

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Speaker 1: like those guys are playmakers and no matter what offense,

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Speaker 1: maybe I knocked them back a little bit. Laporter is

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Speaker 1: a big question mark. What what exactly is the role

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Speaker 1: for Jameson Williams and a new offense is another thing

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Speaker 1: that I think we still have to think about because

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Speaker 1: of what he did, especially late in the season. A

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Speaker 1: lot of variables. But I still believe in Amana, I

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Speaker 1: still believe in Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: I believe that old lawn more than anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably that's where we go. And

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Speaker 1: again they're going to hire somebody and then we can

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Speaker 1: you know, scrub all of.

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Speaker 2: This and redo it or not. I keep the night.

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Speaker 1: This is very this is very much. Oh yeah. I

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Speaker 1: mean if you're gonna be the hater, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: this is your you know, your evil Amna era, then

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Speaker 1: maybe nothing changes Class two thousand.

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Speaker 2: A year.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know you, and I hate your guts.

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Speaker 3: While on the code, Like do you guys think? I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the answer is, but like, if I'm

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Speaker 3: a Lions fan right now, I'm salty that both of

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Speaker 3: my coordinators were spending last week doing numerous interviews and

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Speaker 3: we lost, and we got throttled on defense and had

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Speaker 3: more turnovers and we had like I don't know what

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Speaker 3: it is, but you're at such a disadvantage if you

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Speaker 3: are a playoff team and and people want to interview

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know way around it.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If if they go out and

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Speaker 1: way now mind the Lions were super shorthanded defensively too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, on some level that was just hard to overcome.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if Jared Goff doesn't turn the ball

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Speaker 1: over what four times? Why is your smile so big,

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Speaker 1: Lakwan like you were smiling ear to ear. But I said,

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Speaker 1: Jered Goff turned the ball over.

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Speaker 2: I'm just here to turn the knife.

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Speaker 1: Man. I'm taking on this villain role.

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Speaker 2: They were in my mentions the entire weekend, like Florial,

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Speaker 2: your mentions were safe, but minds were not. People are

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Speaker 2: like ha ha, yeah, look how quickly that turned around.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: We're all in cantcuon. I knew you guys were going

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Speaker 2: to lose against the Commanders. Man, Jamee Dams is the future.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say that. I don't want to put generational

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Speaker 1: Go oh man. We will will definitely get to them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to unpack with the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Whenever their season ends, it's been amazing. We will predict.

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Speaker 1: We will predict the championship games. We'll do that on

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Speaker 1: Thursday show. But we'll get to that too. Next up, though,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Texans Kansas City, a twenty three fourteen winner. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that anybody was really surprised by the outcome,

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Speaker 1: But what do we make of the Texans from this season?

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Speaker 1: Like there were some really good things. There was some

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Speaker 2: Hell sort of things I was looking at this question.

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Speaker 2: I kind of just put it as a wash man.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of inconsistency with the Texans offense,

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Speaker 2: you start the season off the whole line. Geez, they

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Speaker 2: job for him to even have the time to try

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Speaker 2: to get the ball to Tank Dell, the Stefon Diggs, etc.

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Speaker 1: Etc.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, man, next year, I look at Nico Collins.

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Speaker 2: He's a top priority if I'm going to get a

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Speaker 2: piece of that Texans offense. Honestly, I mean he's earned it.

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Speaker 2: I mean only him and T Higgins in twelve games

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Speaker 2: are less finished as top twenty five wide receivers. I mean,

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Speaker 2: honestly feel like it's going to stay consistent between him

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Speaker 2: and C. J. Stroud. So next year I feel safe

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Speaker 2: with Nico, And you know, Tank Dell is such a

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Speaker 2: huge loss man that's probably going to take like two

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Speaker 3: I don't count Week eighteen because we don't play then.

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Speaker 2: He is there, set in stone. All of that sounds wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Said then, look, I'm this is me speaking just as

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Speaker 1: Guy, right if it was If it wasn't Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? The backups?

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Speaker 2: Not on the roster. Yeah, I'll be on the roster,

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Speaker 1: They need a backup plan. That's all I say.

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Speaker 2: You need an exit strategy this year. But I'm good,

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm happy with Stafford for the next two.

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Speaker 3: You haven't said it yet, Lakwan, but I tweeted this

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Speaker 3: Puka was moving like he's never been in snow before

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Speaker 1: So finally Bill's Ravens a thriller, likes we expected it

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't all on Lamar, like it was just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was not his best game by far,

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Speaker 1: knowing that Patrick is, uh, you know, our number one,

436
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: Lamar stand uh here in the building.

437
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Speaker 3: So as someone who's had a lot of heartbreak in

438
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Speaker 3: the playoffs and then have to have your quarterback unfairly

439
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 3: bashed for an entire year. I do feel for Lamar

440
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: fans like it's it's not a fun it's it's the

441
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 3: worst part about being a football fan is like.

442
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Speaker 1: Only one team wins and everyone else gets bashed. Yep,

443
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: basically rings culture, Man, what has it done to us?

444
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: What has it done to it? It didn't always have to be.

445
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't always this way. No one ever looked at

446
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: Dan Marino. It's just like, yeah, maybe they did. I

447
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe that was the start of it.

448
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

449
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting I've done a time, very story less. I'm

450
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Speaker 1: getting sad. Take a break, come back with do some

451
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Speaker 1: exit interviews. So start with the Saints. Since coming up

452
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Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football podcast. All right, back to

453
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Speaker 1: our exit interviews. Picks nine through twelve are up next,

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Speaker 1: Starting at number nine with the New Orleans Saints. They

455
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Speaker 1: were five and twelve. I'm when I went through the

456
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: whole what went right? What went wrong? Thing? Like I

457
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 1: look and I said, Alvin Kamara, I mean, I guess

458
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: so he was the RB nine, nearly fifteen hundred scrimmageyards,

459
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: sixty eight catches, eight total touchdowns.

460
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: I don't know.

461
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: Flora is just because the Saints offense was bad that

462
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: it just didn't feel great for Alvin Kamara. Yeah, it

463
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: was a tale of two halves.

464
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: Like the first half of the season was awesome and

465
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: he was the runaway RB one. I don't know if

466
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 3: you remember this, Marcus, me and you were joking about

467
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: it months ago. It was after the Saints Thursday night

468
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: game where I went on the Thursday pregame show and

469
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 3: was like, you should start Alvin Kamara, who is the

470
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: universal RB one right now?

471
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: And then he.

472
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: Didn't play well and people were like, I want me

473
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: to start him and me and.

474
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: You were like making fun of them the next day.

475
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, like the second half, I mean it's

476
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: not on him, Like you took his starting quarterback away,

477
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: you took Chris Olave away, you took Rashid Shahid away,

478
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: you took Taysom Hill away. He was the last man

479
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: in there, is the only one defense has had a

480
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 3: key in on. And even his last play of this

481
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: season was like an amazing one handed touchdown catch. So yeah,

482
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: I think he'll get devalued a bit next year because

483
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: of age concerns and the offense that he plays on

484
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: and stuff. But if he's going in like the fourth

485
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 3: round like he did this year. I think that's a

486
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: perfectly safe pick to take, all.

487
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: Right, I mean so then that was my next question. Look, well,

488
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Chris Olave missed nine games of

489
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: the concussion, Derek Carr got hurt, wasn't playing all that great.

490
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: Remember the first two weeks the Saints scored like ninety

491
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: points and We're like, oh my goodness, this is a juggernaut.

492
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: And then I think it took them like another five

493
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: weeks to score combined ninety points after that, something really ridiculous.

494
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: It was wild. So everything can be considered. Who is

495
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: the first Saint draft and is it still Alan Kamara?

496
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: And in what round?

497
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: Kamara he's probably living without outside of the top three,

498
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: it feels right like maybe early forefront, but I just

499
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: feel like he's the only one I feel safe with.

500
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: Chrys o'lave. Like I'm done. I'm talking personally here on

501
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: the mic, like I'm not talking for everybody else. I

502
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: am done with the chrysal o' lovey experience, Like I'm

503
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: completely over it. Like it's not what it is. It's

504
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: not the same comparison situation, like a Garret Wilson or

505
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: Drake London that are a quarterback away. He's got the quarterback,

506
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: but then he's missing games because of concussions and et cetera,

507
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: and overall the offense is just not good. Like I

508
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: have no type of like appeal to this offense for

509
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, Like I just don't Juwan Johnson, like

510
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: I was happy for him to like show up as

511
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: like I'm here too, I can produce, but then they

512
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: wasn't consistent. So it's like I don't know what to

513
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: do with this Saints offense. I just look at it

514
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: as like I'm gonna get anybody. It's gonna be I'm Kamara,

515
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: like it's the safest the thirty year old running back

516
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: almost fifteen hundred scrimming yards, like I'll take that.

517
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, just.

518
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: You ever Seet Shahad, No, that's the best ball thing.

519
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: Man.

520
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: If there could be something there as like you know,

521
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: like he could be the flex of the week, you know,

522
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 2: like I don't feel like there's somebody that can be

523
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: consistently in your starting lineups as a start and forget.

524
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably fair. I don't know any any other

525
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: additions take away from that.

526
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: Florio I agree, like I was out on a lave

527
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: this past season, and obviously injuries played a big thing,

528
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: but I just don't trust Derek Carr.

529
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't trust this offense.

530
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: All of that that being said, the fantasy community loves

531
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: Crystal Lava. I would not be surprised if he goes

532
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: at the first things off the board.

533
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Asked him why. I was like, is that a rhetorical question?

534
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: I thought you had an answer for that away a

535
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: silent okay, Yeah, I don't. You're right. I like the

536
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: idea of Chrystal Lave and the first two years he

537
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: was giving you kind of wide receiver TWOI ish numbers,

538
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: but we.

539
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: Keep drafting him as a wide receiver one. This is

540
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, Like why.

541
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Because this is supposed to be the third year leap, right,

542
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean remember back in the day, there used to

543
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: be it used to be the third year leap. Like

544
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: now guys come in as rookies at wide receivers and

545
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: just ball out. But we used to believe in the

546
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: third year leap and now like apparently now if you

547
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: don't do it with the first two, like we're out.

548
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Is that what that's what it is?

549
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: Now?

550
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: But it's Derek Dallas Carr to that quarterback likes no.

551
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: Two years ago he led the league I think in

552
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 3: dump offs in a clean pocket like he's.

553
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: That's why Alvin Tabara eight.

554
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just not a QB to elevate someone with

555
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: a lave skill set in my opinion.

556
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: And only one season over thirty touchdowns, so the touchdowns

557
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: are not even there. And that was what like twenty fourteen,

558
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: I want to guess, like twenty fifteen. Yeah, you're closed.

559
00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: Ah, that was not Refree Cooper year, I believe. Yeah, yeah,

560
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: it's crazy. All right, let's get to the Chicago Bears

561
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: because there's a lot to unpack here. Five and twelve

562
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: went right, DeAndre Swift, I think for sure we're had

563
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: a very good season by his standards. Thirteen hundred and

564
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: forty five scrimmage yards, forty two catches, six total touchdowns.

565
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: The RB nineteen Dj Moore, as we all expected, was

566
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: the wide receiver one there ninety eight for a nine

567
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: to sixty six and six touchdowns. Wide receiver sixteen. Maddy

568
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: Ruflus fired, Shane Waldron sacked. Yes, I got it. Yeah,

569
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: your team lost. I either throw you a bone, come on.

570
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Some of the pending free agents, Keenan Allen, who signed

571
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: on a one year deal. It was okay, Travis Homer,

572
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis, who I just feel like he should play

573
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: forever and every year he should go to London and

574
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: catch a touchdown. That's why I think that's what he should.

575
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Don be forty one in May, please come back. I

576
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: say this all the time. Marcedes Lewis and Maurice Jones

577
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: drew against each other in high school. They were teammates

578
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: at UCLA. They were drafted the same year. I love HIMJD.

579
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: He's been our co worker for a while now, and

580
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis is still playing pro football insane. So there

581
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: you go. So let's start with just just what we

582
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: saw from the Bears this year. Soria, your final evaluation

583
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: of Caleb Williams rookie season incomplete.

584
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: I think I think Caleb showed a lot of flashes.

585
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: And and just like I say with Drake May, don't

586
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: just look at like his stats and his box score,

587
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: go watch him play football. We saw a lot of

588
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: the times that the stuff that Marcus you saw for

589
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: years at USC just him extending plays with his legs,

590
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: him making throws that like him. Lamar Mahomes and Alan

591
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: Ka make and that's it. Like he's got that skill set,

592
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: that playmaking gene that we all were so excited for

593
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: coming out of college. He does need to work on

594
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: getting the ball out of his hands quicker. He definitely

595
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: held on to it too long at times and that

596
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: was a problem and even in college. But when he

597
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: was in college, he could just easily outrun and out

598
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: maneuver and out athletic everyone hard to do in the NFL,

599
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: but he was constantly under pressure. He was leading the

600
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: league all year in unblocked sacks, unblocked pressure, all of that.

601
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: So needs to get the Bears priority this offseason. Like

602
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: last year was putting weapons around him, this year needs

603
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: to be just just get an O line in place,

604
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: because we know that was so much of the success

605
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: that Ben Johnson had in Detroit. But I think if

606
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: you improve that offensive line, you are cooking with fire

607
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: with Caleb Williams right now.

608
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Like I think you.

609
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Should feel really good, Marcus.

610
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: You watched him closer than any of us in college,

611
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: so I'm really curious to hear what you think of him.

612
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: But I came away feeling good, more good than bad

613
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: with Caleb Williams.

614
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think part of the Yeah,

615
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: the playmaking ability is what you love, but there were

616
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: times in college, as you mentioned, it got him in trouble,

617
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: and I think I think what we saw in the

618
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: first half of the season was a guy that the

619
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: game was still a little bit too fast forward. Every

620
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: rookie will tell you that at some point it starts

621
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: to slow down, and I think you saw that a

622
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: little more in the second half of the season. So

623
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: your point, though, he still has to get rid of

624
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: the ball. There are times where you can hold it

625
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: and extend to play and make something happen. There are

626
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: times you just have to eat it, you know, throw

627
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: it out of bounds, run for a few yards and

628
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: slide whatever. The home runs not always going to be there,

629
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: so I think that's sort of the thing. It's going

630
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: to be interesting now that they have a new head

631
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: coach who is also in offensive mind, so means it's

632
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: time to see who will deliver. Presented by Uber Eats,

633
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Lukwan for you, what does Ben Johnson's hiring

634
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: mean for the Bears, Because obviously I know you want

635
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: to twist the knife for the Lions, So this is

636
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: your chance to get in there and talk about how

637
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: he's going to rise Chicago up from the depths.

638
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: Well, I look at the skill players like they get

639
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: a boost. I mean, look, I'm going to start the

640
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: hype train now. We can start getting all aboard of

641
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: the Cole commit because I think it's going to be

642
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: a breakout season for him, because honestly, looking at Cole Comtt,

643
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: he's one of the guys that can hang with the

644
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: best of them when it comes to route runners and

645
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: being you know, produced, but he just never was deployed

646
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: and utilized that way for him to really show up.

647
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: And I think we might be surprised at Cole Comett,

648
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, showing up a show now. I mean, Roman

649
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: Dunde is going to be way more fun under the watch,

650
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, honestly with Caleb. And we talked about Caleb

651
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: pulling to the ball real quick. He yelled them to

652
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: the ball for two point nine to two seconds and

653
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: leave average was two point eight one. So he was

654
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: just holding on to the ball way too long. So

655
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: hopefully Ben Johnson gets out there, gets him more creative

656
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: out there, get the ball quick out you have the

657
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: weapons around you, and honestly, that's what makes this job attractive.

658
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: You have a veteran Keenan Allen, you have DJ Moore

659
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: who's going to be crazy explosive, like he gets a

660
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: boost obviously in rounds, and I definitely think, you know,

661
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams is going to be able to get the

662
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Speaker 2: ball out quick and have this offense just look similar

663
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: to the Lions offense and hopefully we can get a

664
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Speaker 2: year one impact like Ben Johnson did with Jarrek Goff

665
00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: in that line.

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Speaker 1: All right, So side unseen Florio, you are looking at

667
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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in your draft ranks? Is he a top twelve?

668
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: Top ten? How high you having him up? Come on?

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Speaker 3: I think I could see top twelve, so like it.

670
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: Obviously the top five is set. We've already said it's Lamar, Josh,

671
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: h Burrow, Jaden and Herts in any order you want

672
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: to put them in. After that, I think the second

673
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: tier of quarterbacks is going to be very big because.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks at the top of it.

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Speaker 1: Like bow Knicks is in that group.

676
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Speaker 3: I would put Caleb in that group, Jared Goff maybe

677
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: depending on who the OC is now, Kyler Murray like

678
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Mahomes Rock Party, all of those names are kind of

679
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: similar in some regard.

680
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Speaker 1: By the Wild Wild that you got to that part

681
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: before you said Mahomes. Just let's yeah, right, let's take

682
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: a moment to recognize.

683
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: That Mahomes is going to be in that second tier

684
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Speaker 3: for sure. I think Caleb will as well. I think

685
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: top twelve makes sense with Ben Johnson.

686
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Speaker 1: To me, he's very.

687
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Speaker 3: Much the more I think about it, it depends on

688
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: where he goes in drafts. Like if people are pulling

689
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: him up and he's going like QB eight, I'm probably

690
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: not gonna take him there. But if he's going closer

691
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Speaker 3: to QB twelve, I'll probably have a whole bunch of

692
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Speaker 3: Caleb on my teams this year because we know he

693
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: can run and stuff. I just I hope Keenan his

694
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: back or that they go out and get suck because

695
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: the slot receiver was such a big part of the

696
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: Lions offense that you need someone you trust in.

697
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Speaker 2: That role in Chicago. I got a question, though, would

698
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: you would you do Dak or Caleb next year?

699
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: See that's and we're gonna talk about the Cowboys little

700
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: layer two, But who's gonna be the coach?

701
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: That's doesn't matter. I mean the circus is circus, but

702
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: we'll get to them later. How about Herbert.

703
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Or Kleb I think I want Caleb.

704
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's more ups running more though he has been

705
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: running more.

706
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Speaker 1: I want to see what they do. I'd want to

707
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: see what they do in the draft of free agency

708
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: about adding a wide receiver. They need more than lad Yeah.

709
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: And the Bears need to add to the old lines.

710
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 3: So so, but right now, Caleb taking him over over

711
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: two over? Yeah, I think like Gino him or Jordan

712
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: love Stroud, like, I feel like Caleb brings more upside

713
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: than those guys.

714
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what it is. I think we've

715
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: seen the potential. Now let's let's actually see what it's

716
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: like with a with a good offensive head coach and.

717
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: Where he's going to go in rounds. It's not like

718
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: you're paying premium price for it either, So not yet.

719
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: How about this one, Caleb Williams or Anthony Richardson. Oh,

720
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: you got to be kidding me.

721
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, man, I need to I

722
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: need to get my mind right before I start talking

723
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: about Anthony, because it's all upside, that's all it is.

724
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: Because you kind of want to say aar but like

725
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: I could see my taking both of them.

726
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: I need to be in a safe space right now.

727
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I'm in a good

728
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: mental place to talk about Anthony Richardson right now enough

729
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: And just tapping out that was Who Will Deliver, presented

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Speaker 1: by Uber Eat, where you can get the best deals

731
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: on game day food all season long, the official on

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Speaker 1: demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now still got

733
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: two more teams to talk about in our exit interviews.

734
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: And once upon a time this was the rivalry in

735
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: the NFC, Now not so much. Take a break, come

736
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Speaker 1: back before the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast picking in the

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Speaker 1: number eleven spot this year the San Francisco forty nine

738
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Speaker 1: ers six and eleven. What went right? Pretty much? George Kittle,

739
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: he was a tight end. Three seventy eight catches, one

740
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: hundred and well eleven hundred and six yards, the eight

741
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: touchdowns there. What went wrong? Well, pretty much everything else.

742
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: I think me and LQ should just sit back right

743
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 1: now and give you.

744
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: The floor to let you vent of ex sickly went

745
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: wrong with the season.

746
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, we probably all should have been

747
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: a little bit hip and then look, there are some

748
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: people out there. Who when when the McCaffrey calf stuff

749
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: started up, people immediately like, I'm out. Some of us,

750
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, decided we could take the forty nine ers

751
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: coaching in front office at their word that he was

752
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: just a little bit away, when honestly, some of that

753
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: is on me. I sit next to Cynthia Freeland at

754
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: least once a week on NFL Fantasy Live, as she

755
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: often refers to Kyle Shanahan as a lying liar who lies.

756
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: That should have been my first clue that Christian McCaffrey

757
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: was probably not going to play this year. And beyond that,

758
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: you have the Brandon Nyuk stuff that he was holding

759
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: out to the very last minute, gets paid and then

760
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: gets hurt almost immediately. They were one running back away from,

761
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, emailing one of us to take some snaps

762
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: in that backfield at some point declined they were just

763
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: they were a team that was really really beat up.

764
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Speaker 1: And while I like Rock Party, it sort of showed

765
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: some of the limitations. And look, I think we all

766
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: knew that, Yes, he's definitely a benefit of he benefits

767
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: from having talent around him. I think he's a good quarterback.

768
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: They you know, they've shown that he can get them

769
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl. So I think that's that part

770
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: was fine, whether they pay him or not. You know,

771
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I think you have to because because who else what

772
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Are you? Are you guaranteed to

773
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: find somebody better than Brock Party? And the answer is

774
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: not right now, not at not the eleventh spot, not

775
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: with who's out there in the free agent market. So

776
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: Rock Purty will get paid. I don't know, just the

777
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: year where everybody was beat up, even on the defensive side.

778
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: Drake green Law didn't come back to halfway through the year.

779
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: We found out at some point, uh Brett Warner was

780
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: playing on a broken ankle, you know, like telling no,

781
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Hufanga can't seem to stay healthy. Just it just was.

782
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: It was like domino effect where everybody was just injured

783
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: at some point. So I kind of look at it

784
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: as a speed bump. Yes, everybody will be a year older.

785
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: McCaffrey will allegedly be healthy. I you will allegedly be healthy.

786
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: John Lynch says they want to run it back. They

787
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: want to figure out how to pay Rock Party and

788
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: keep Deebo Samuel around and healthy. So they want to

789
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: try to run it back. So I'm willing to kind

790
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: of take this as a speed bump, but I'm going

791
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: to ask the number one forty nine er hater here,

792
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: are you willing at all to buy back in on

793
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: this offense and fantasy next.

794
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: Year at a discount? Yeah? I mean everybody but CMC,

795
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: Like I know Brandon at Yuk is going to be

796
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: at a discount, and he still seems to be the

797
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: functionality of this offense in rock Party. I mean, I

798
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: really don't have much interest in debo because I'm not

799
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: sure where he is in vibe check and mood, and

800
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if he wants to be there anymore.

801
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know like George Kittle quietly a top

802
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: three tight end like I honestly, you know I faded

803
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: him just based on his history with injuries are coming

804
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: in and now snip snap, are you healthy or not?

805
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll take the shot on Ricky Bert Piers,

806
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: I'll take it, no shot on Juwan Jennings knows later round,

807
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: because I do want a piece of this forty nine

808
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: ers offense. If you guys are all healthy, everything is

809
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: back together, I think you're better than the Cardinals, to

810
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: be honest, So I think you know, with you guys

811
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: finishing last in the division, you guys get an easier schedule,

812
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: So you guys will definitely benefit from that. You guys,

813
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: you know, take a step back from high competition football

814
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 2: within a division. You know what teams like the Rams.

815
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I definitely think you know, that

816
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: discount would be nice on those guys.

817
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: Wow, the little little elbow on the way out, that

818
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: was you know, I gotta get you all right. I mean,

819
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: so I'll ask you the McCaffrey question. Where are you

820
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: comfortable taking him next year?

821
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Speaker 2: Done?

822
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Done? Done? Uh?

823
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Speaker 3: Definitely not the first round. I would ideally want to

824
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: say the third round, but I feel like he's going

825
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: to go in the second, and I don't know if

826
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to be that person taking it. I agree

827
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: with what LQ said, like, I'm really excited to get

828
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: some of these forty nine at a discount.

829
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Speaker 1: Is cem cmc is gonna go one of two ways?

830
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Speaker 3: I think like he's gonna be early second round pick

831
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Speaker 3: or no one's gonna want to draft him to like

832
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Speaker 3: the fifth round, And I'm guessing it's it's gonna be

833
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: him going in the second round.

834
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Speaker 2: So I generally won't like general public draft and he's gone.

835
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Speaker 1: When when when? Yeah, later in the summer, people like

836
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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey.

837
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Speaker 3: We were talking about Bryce Hall versus a whole bunch

838
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: of different running backs last week, and all of those

839
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: are running backs that I think go on the second

840
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: or third round. So I'd much rather take those guys

841
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: who I don't have to worry about the injury concern

842
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: and stuff. I get the upside with CMC, So yeah,

843
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Speaker 3: I would be back in on some of the Niners

844
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Speaker 3: weapons and Marcus, I agree with you. I think they're

845
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: gonna pay Brock Party, but I think this is where

846
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: like the NFL needs to make adjustments, Like you don't

847
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: need to give Brock Purty sixty million just because like

848
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is getting that kind of money, like treat

849
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Speaker 3: it like other sports.

850
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Speaker 1: Dude, Like, look, Derek Cole got paid. You're not Cole.

851
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna get pit your money for what you're.

852
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: Deserved, you know, Like that's what the NFL needs. He

853
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: would just who pulls the trigger first, Sam Donald or

854
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: Brock Party. Party's getting paid? Ptty pretty o you paid?

855
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: Yees? Donald. Donald may hang around for a while after

856
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks.

857
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: On the tag. Yeah, you're right.

858
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: Actually you may hang around for a couple of weeks,

859
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: so we'll see what how that goes. Oh, by the way,

860
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: some of the free agents include Elijah Mitchell, Jordan Mason,

861
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Taylor. Are we spinning the wheel of forty nine

862
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: or backups again this year?

863
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: We almost have to, right, Yes, it's becoming automatic now, right,

864
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: Like I mean, honestly, you just want to be safety ready,

865
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: so you don't have to get ready.

866
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Speaker 1: I guess Isaac Grindal is still going to be there,

867
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: so get that.

868
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason. I honestly rather Jordan Mason because I am

869
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 2: the Jordan Mason stand. But I am okay with taking

870
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: them both. That's how deep I'm willing to go, Like

871
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: I want forty nine ers running back. I'm not convinced

872
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: that CMC is going to be back to form. I'm

873
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: not even convinced he's going to come back to play

874
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: a full sixteen seventeen games. Like I mean, we've seen

875
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: this story play out before, Like I mentioned this before

876
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: in the Pond over the summer, Like we've seen him

877
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: lead the league in touches. He played ten games those

878
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: following two seasons.

879
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm calling it now.

880
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 3: Saturday, April twenty sixth, the forty nine ers will draft

881
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: a running back and the internet will go crazy for him.

882
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the end of CMC. Like that's going to

883
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: be there, Like that's gonna be some AI clickbaity things

884
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: CMC done. Like that's exactly gonna happen. Wow. Last one,

885
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: the number twelve pick, goes to the Dallas Cowboys. They

886
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: were seven and ten. Well, wait right, ceede Lamb, We'll

887
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: see thee Lamb again. One hundred and one catches, almost

888
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: twelve hundred yards, six touchdowns, wide receiver eight, and that

889
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: was because miss the final two games, was shut down

890
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: with the shoulder injury. Rico Daudo eventually became a good

891
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 1: thing when they realized that, hey man, it's not twenty

892
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: nineteen and Ezekee Elliott didn't have it like that anymore.

893
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Rego down finish with thirteen hundred scrimmag yards thirty nine catches,

894
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: five total touchdowns was the running back twenty three. Uh

895
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: what went wrong? Well, basically, their defense was terrible for

896
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 1: a good chunk of the season, and Dak Prescott missed

897
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: nine games with a hamstring injury. But we talked a

898
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: lot about quarterbacks, Siliquan, A healthy Dak Prescott is quarterback.

899
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Blank, quarterback blank. Now we could put him in that

900
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: range of QB twelve through fifteen because we know we're

901
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: gonna get thirty touchdowns forty five hundred passing yards from

902
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: a healthy deck. Like, I don't think there would be

903
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: any type of alterar, you know, with the coaching there, Like,

904
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: I think the connection between him and CD Lamb remained

905
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: the same. So I would be willing if I was

906
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: a buyer into the circus, if I wanted to get

907
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: a ticket to go there, But I personally wouldn't be

908
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: drafting him this year. And I definitely feel as though

909
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: if you go out there, you have to have in mind,

910
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: like the expectations like, hey, guys are going to hurt. Hey,

911
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: it's the circus. Hey guys are unhappy even paid, Like

912
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: these are all the psychological expectations you're getting with this

913
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: player on your roster, and like that's how I approach

914
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: the draft. I don't want to be part of the circus.

915
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to purchase a ticket to the circus.

916
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that makes a question then Florida.

917
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the rumor is that Jerry Jones

918
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: has interest in bringing in Beyond Sanders to be the

919
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: head coach. I mean, I know you don't watch a

920
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: ton of college football, but even not watching college football,

921
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: you could not miss the phenomenon that was coach Prime

922
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: when he got to Boulder, Colorado. You know, there's a

923
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: there's a dot you series that about a thing that's

924
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: happening right now. Like if he does become the head

925
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: coach of the Dallas Cowboys, knowing that the show is

926
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: coming with him, does that impact how you feel about

927
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: drafting those players, like the circus part of it.

928
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, What I'm more concerned about is like what

929
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: style of offense is he gonna run? Is he gonna

930
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: be conservative? Is he gonna pass a lot? Is he

931
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: How different is it going to look from past years?

932
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: And that, to me is something that I have tried

933
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: to mitigate in my draft, is as little variance as like,

934
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: especially in my early round picks, Like quarterback changes is

935
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: a huge red flag for me. Play calling changes is

936
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: a big red flag for me. And there are times

937
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: where they bring in a new play caller and it

938
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: could be a positive, like I was really excited for

939
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: like Kellen Moore with the Eagles this year and Dave

940
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Canalis with the Panthers and stuff like that. But at

941
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: the same time, I was not excited at all about

942
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: like Greg Roman with the Chargers, So.

943
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: It goes both ways.

944
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: I would have to dive deeper into what his offenses

945
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: looked like at Colorado because, like you said, all I

946
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: know is the spectacle of what Dion was. But yeah,

947
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: to me, Dak is in that big tier after the

948
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: top five, like he could easily finish QB six or

949
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: he could finish q BE fourteen, and I wouldn't be

950
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: all that surprised either way.

951
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: So I will who knows if he gets hired and

952
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: who he brings with him. Currently, I will tell you

953
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: that his offensive coordinator is Pat Shermer at the University

954
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: of Colorado, so you can go back and find some

955
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: more Pat Shermer offenses.

956
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: Do you think he's just the Dan Campbell just the

957
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: culture of the team, Like he's just going to bring

958
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: in the energy and just have the offensive coordinator run

959
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: his offense like I could kind of see that happening.

960
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I think that's that's exactly like I

961
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: think whoever his coordinators are would would run the you know,

962
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: rat that side of the ball.

963
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 2: He would just be the mouthpiece, he'd be the master.

964
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it just it just feels like even

965
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: more of a circus. And I know the Cowboys are

966
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: a circus in and of themselves, like they are a

967
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: show like no other.

968
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: They love the circuits.

969
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time they love it. But I mean,

970
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: I sent you guys that meme. Right, the last time

971
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys won an NFC championship game, the Baltimore Ravens

972
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: didn't exist. Oh, like out look, it's bringing in revenue.

973
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Who I'm bad at capitalism, so like it's making money.

974
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: So I guess nothing's really gonna change there. But man,

975
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: if I'm a fan, I'm frustrated, like I don't want

976
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: At some point, I don't want the circus anymore. I

977
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: just I just I want to go to Super Bowl. Well.

978
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: I have a buddy who's a Cowboys fan and the

979
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: Knicks fan, and he he texted me his misery all

980
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: the time. Sorry, I know you're a Knicks fan too.

981
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: Times are better there. He's got the bills in the Mets.

982
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: He's fine.

983
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're good.

984
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: The Knicks are top seed in the East right now.

985
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: Look, he's happy somewhat, but his Cowboys have not been

986
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: great since he's been like five years old.

987
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: You know, Marcus, your point about the Ravens Jayden Daniels

988
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: was not was negative four years old.

989
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: The last time the Cowboys played in the Super Bowl

990
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 2: negative four years yikes.

991
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: Well even thought of wasn't born Anthony Rich like the

992
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: numerous starting quarterbacks were not even alive. The last time

993
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 3: was the iPod out?

994
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: No? No, no, absolutely not. The I pod was like

995
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: the late two thousands.

996
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: Were we even on AOL Messenger? Like, were we on aim?

997
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I don't think, Yeah, I don't think. I don't think

998
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: AOL was around because it really wasn't a big deal

999
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: at that point. Wow, we were getting disc melt. Oh man, Oh.

1000
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: Wow, Cowboys fans hate the pod.

1001
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of the Cowboys for people who

1002
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: also love cowboy misery, you know, the the NFC Championship

1003
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: Game is a matchup of former Dallas Cowboy coordinators. Oh

1004
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: it's just last season, yeah yeah.

1005
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: Wow, But I guess Kellen Moore was two years ago

1006
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: because last she was with the chart.

1007
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: But still still the point wow of recent Cowboy coordinators

1008
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: there it is all right.

1009
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: That was today was fun.

1010
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: You know, Cowboys fans thought like if he said NFC East,

1011
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: two teams from it are in the NFC Championship game,

1012
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: They're thinking it's them in Philly all the way, all

1013
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: year long.

1014
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, life comes at your fast, very fast. Go ahead

1015
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: say the saying say it.

1016
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: Cowboy fans, this is right here, man, Cowboys, Lions, your

1017
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: mentions are gonna be rough to.

1018
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: I just got to deal with the Ravens fans. You got,

1019
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: you got the whole NFC coming for you.

1020
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: I don't care. Bring them, bring them Lions fans have

1021
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: fun in Cowbo, Dan Campbell, you learned his lesson humble

1022
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: pie has been served.

1023
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: My favorite part about it that was they made it

1024
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: just as far as you guys did.

1025
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: They lost first.

1026
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: You know what, when a team plays on Saturday and

1027
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: my team like, I'm like, all right, we made it

1028
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: further than you, even though technically give you.

1029
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hilarious, that's funny. All right. Obviously, we'll be

1030
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: back with you on Thursday. We'll have some more exit

1031
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: interviews and will also preview the n f C and

1032
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: a f C Championship game, So stick around for that.

1033
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: The meantime that'll do it for this edition of the

1034
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football podcast, The Happy, Safe and LV do

1035
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: good and Live Well. We'll talk to you in a

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Speaker 1: couple of days.