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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 2: And we are live from the DNC again with an

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Speaker 2: World about how VP Harris changes the game. Ben Many Routtinall,

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Speaker 2: But first we have the host of the Enemy's List,

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Speaker 2: the Link of Projects owned Rick Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Few Fast Politics, My buddy Rick Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Molly John Fast. We are both on the same

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Speaker 1: We are on our West Coast leg of our blockbuster tour.

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Speaker 4: Yes we are, and it is and folks, if you're

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Speaker 4: looking for information on our blockbuster tour. It's politics as unusual.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this and you're in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: listen to us in San Francisco. There are tickets. Look

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Speaker 4: Been reading about it. People were sick of us.

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Speaker 1: I think there are very few tickets, but there certainly

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's important to talk about the

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Speaker 4: I was at a couple of Democratic conventions on the

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of speeches being the right length, the fact

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Speaker 4: I mean, Dorobald Trump on his acceptance speech and I

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Speaker 5: And how long did Harris speak?

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Speaker 4: For thirty eight it was perfect. It was right on

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Speaker 4: It is rather Mussolini asked. But look, I will say

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Speaker 4: But this is not a campaign, Molly, with two normal candidates.

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Speaker 5: That was how he got here.

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Speaker 5: Right, Donald Trump is now pivoted to be pro choice.

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Speaker 4: cut rates, Gas prices at the barrel are plunged, right now.

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Speaker 5: Campaign, right right, No, no, exactly.

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Speaker 5: I want to never talk about RFK.

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Speaker 1: Welcome too, Fast, Congressman Don Bayer, John Fast.

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Speaker 5: It's very exciting to have you.

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Speaker 1: You are the luckiest congressman because you do have just

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Speaker 7: It's a crazy commute. And more members of Congress, the staffs,

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Speaker 6: That it's a very politics is our cottage industry?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's something, So let's talk about You wanted

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Speaker 5: What does that explain?

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Speaker 6: In machine learning.

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Speaker 6: It's fun? I'm not even halfway through sixteen.

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Speaker 5: You'll literally go, you're really doing that?

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Speaker 7: Well, the classic case, Molly is social media were the

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Speaker 6: So trying to put together.

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Speaker 6: To make the same social media mistake.

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Speaker 7: I do you know Europe has already passed an AI

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Speaker 7: So there's a lot more to go to protect intellectual property.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And do you think that can happen?

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Speaker 7: I think it has to happen Otherwise who's going to

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Speaker 7: create content if you take away all the monetary centers?

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Speaker 7: For example, I know the motion picture industry is terrified,

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Speaker 7: right about what.

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Speaker 6: Something like that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That really does seem like an important thing. Do you

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Speaker 1: think there's a bipartisan appetite.

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Speaker 7: For that, Yeah, Molly, the good is so far it's

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Speaker 7: very bipartisan. The twenty four people of jayobernoltire Republican from California,

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Speaker 7: tedlu a Democrat from California, lead the effort, and then

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Speaker 7: they've worked hard to try to make sure that that

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Speaker 7: stayed together. I think once one of the big challenges

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Speaker 7: out there right now is the idea of trying to

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Speaker 7: create some kind of long term digital idea that belongs

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Speaker 7: to Molly jong Fast or Don Bayer, that we'll get

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Speaker 7: away from all the identity theft. That's the only place

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Speaker 7: I've seen Republican pushback because they begin to think world

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Speaker 7: government or I know, the government's going to know too.

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Speaker 1: Much about songs in women's medical offices.

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Speaker 6: But nowhere else, nowhere else, Yes, in the bedroom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: By the way, are you you have been doing this

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Speaker 1: for a while, although also ambassadorships, et cetera. Are you

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Speaker 1: surprised at how far right the Republican Party has gone?

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Speaker 7: It's nowhere near the Republican Party that I knew. I

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Speaker 7: starved eight years in the Virginia Senate. Completely different.

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Speaker 6: Yeah than this.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we used to work together all the time.

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Speaker 7: You can never predict how the vote was going to

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Speaker 7: turn out here. You know it'll be two eighteen to

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Speaker 7: two fourteen. Almost every time it was contested.

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Speaker 1: That no fault divorce thing, Republicans are very passionate about

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Speaker 1: repealing no fault divorce signed into law by Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 1: in California, discuss there's.

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Speaker 6: So many things that they're talking about.

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Speaker 7: You know, there are the restrictions on contraception IVF personhood

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Speaker 7: at you know, when the sperm hits the ovum.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that are that are just way out of the mainstream.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just think about when you divorced, when somebody had

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Speaker 7: to be wrong, somebody had to do something really evil

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Speaker 7: to do it. So many people were victimized, thrown under

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Speaker 7: the bus, and or families were forced to stay together that.

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Speaker 6: Were really bad for them and bad for the children. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and certainly repressed women's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all it's right. Yeah, thank you so much, Congressman.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Molly good luck.

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Speaker 1: Are you concerned about Project twenty twenty five and how

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Speaker 1: awful Trump's second term could be, Well, so are we,

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Speaker 1: which is why we teamed up with iHeart to make

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Speaker 1: a limited series with the experts on what a disaster

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Speaker 1: Project twenty twenty five would be for America's future. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we have just released the final episode of this five

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Speaker 1: episode series. They're all available by looking up Molly Jong

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Speaker 1: Fast Project twenty twenty five on YouTube, and if you

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Speaker 1: lock screen and it will play back just like the podcast.

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Speaker 1: All five episodes are online now.

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Speaker 5: We need to educate.

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Speaker 1: Americans on what Trump's second term would or could do

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Speaker 1: to this country. So please watch it and spread the word.

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Speaker 3: Caroline Gleek is a candidate for Senate in Utah.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics, Caroline, who is running for the

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Speaker 1: Mint Romney Senate seat in the great state of Utah.

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Speaker 5: That is correct. How are you going to do it?

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Speaker 8: We are going to get young voters to turn out,

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Speaker 8: to get women to turn out, and you know, when

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Speaker 8: young voters and women turn out, we win.

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Speaker 1: So Utah start a state in the Democrats talk about

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Speaker 1: that much.

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Speaker 5: Tell us what you could do in Utah.

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Speaker 8: Utah isn't to state that the Democratic parties really had

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Speaker 8: their radar on, and I think that is a mistake

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Speaker 8: because Utah is already a lot more purple than it seems.

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Speaker 8: And in our last presidential election, young LDS voters increasingly

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Speaker 8: voted Democratic.

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Speaker 5: Interesting, Yes, and we were really.

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Speaker 8: Encouraged also by the results of Nikki Haley really reject Trump.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, it's already a lot more purple.

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Speaker 8: Fifty three percent of voters in Utah are registered Republican

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Speaker 8: and then a lot of those low are Democrats that

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Speaker 8: file that registered Republican to vote in the closed primaries.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Donald Trump has been really alienated the LDS community.

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Speaker 5: Can you talk about that?

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Speaker 1: He still was able to get Mike Lee, but it

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Speaker 1: was real sacrilege.

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Speaker 5: Can you talk about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Utah voters, we are you know, we have a global perspective, right,

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Speaker 8: We're really tolerant of immigrants, right, and we're warm, inclusive people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And the Trump agenda, his rhetoric, his status as a

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Speaker 8: convicted felon, the way he openly brags about assaulting women,

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Speaker 8: it's not who we are as Utah's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So Utah voters, in our hearts, we are a really

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Speaker 8: warm and inclusive people, global perspective, and we're really ready

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Speaker 8: to make some big democratic gains in the state.

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Speaker 5: What is your race looking like? Who is your opponent?

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Speaker 5: Tell us a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Yes, I won the Democratic Convention with ninety three

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Speaker 8: percent of the votes, so I'll be on the ballot

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Speaker 8: in November.

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Speaker 5: And my opponent is a career politician.

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Speaker 8: He's currently serving in the House of Representatives, so he's

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Speaker 8: running to serve in the Senate.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 8: And he's a really interesting guy. He's very nice, very charismatic.

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Speaker 8: I've worked with him a lot in my role as

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Speaker 8: a citizen and climate activist in Congress.

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Speaker 5: He talks a big game about what he's.

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Speaker 8: Going to do for environment, for climate, but when he

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Speaker 8: gets into Congress he actually has a worse environmental voting

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Speaker 8: record than Mike Lee.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 8: Yes, he's the founder of the Conservative Climate Caucus, yet

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Speaker 8: he's consistently voted to undermine protections for aaron water.

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Speaker 5: He's a greenwasher.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that the Republicans can't get interested

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Speaker 1: in climate?

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Speaker 8: Just like anything in politics, we have to change the

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Speaker 8: role that big money plays. Yeah, but when you look

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Speaker 8: at who is funding their campaigns, you see how they

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Speaker 8: have to vote. And he is one of the top

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Speaker 8: recipients from the fossil fuel industry in Congress, and the

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Speaker 8: top recipient from our electric utility provider. So you follow

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Speaker 8: the money and then you see how they vote.

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Speaker 5: What does climate change look like into Utah?

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Speaker 8: First and foremost, we have a huge impact to our

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Speaker 8: public health from the air quality. The average uton dies

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Speaker 8: on average two years early because of the air quality.

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Speaker 8: During these periods of poor air quality, we see an

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Speaker 8: increased a sixteen percent increased rate of miscarriages. We see

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Speaker 8: cardiac events, mental health challenges asthma. So we get really

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Speaker 8: bad air from the burning of fossil fuels and the

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Speaker 8: way it gets kind of trapped in our Teacup Valley

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Speaker 8: where most of the population of Utah lives. And then

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Speaker 8: we've been seeing unprecedented wildfire seasons. We have been seeing

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Speaker 8: so many days of record breaking heat. Just we used

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Speaker 8: to have only a few days over one hundred degrees

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Speaker 8: and now we have these really long stretches, and our

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Speaker 8: population that's experiencing homelessness, which has also been in crazy.

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Speaker 8: They're dying of the heat.

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Speaker 5: Tourists are dying of heat in the national parks.

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Speaker 8: And then in the winter we're seeing more snow that's

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Speaker 8: falling as rain, which is a big problem for our

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Speaker 8: ski industry and the snowsports economy, which is a major

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Speaker 8: major part of our economy there. Yeah, so those are

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Speaker 8: just some of the impacts, but we expect to see

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Speaker 8: a lot worse wildfires, flooding, and other public health impacts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So interesting and also so upsetting. How it is.

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Speaker 5: Can people find out more about you?

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Speaker 8: They can go to our website Caroline for Utah dot

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Speaker 8: com c A R O L I N E FO

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Speaker 8: r Utah dot com. If you can, you can chip

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Speaker 8: in a couple bucks. You can do that from any

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Speaker 8: state in the nation. Any American citizen can chip in

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Speaker 8: and it would really go a long way to ensuring

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Speaker 8: we can run the most competitive campaign. And then if

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Speaker 8: you want to sign up to volunteer, we can also

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Speaker 8: have postcard and phone banking opportunities around the nation and

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Speaker 8: we would really appreciate it because every Senate state counts

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Speaker 8: and we can't turn our back on the investments into

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Speaker 8: these states because we are going take Utah and make

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Speaker 8: it into blue Talk.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Caroline.

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Speaker 3: Rose. The world represents Connecticut's third district.

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited to have you. Welcome to Congress. Woman.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. You have done this for a while.

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Speaker 1: You have been to a few conventions I have you

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Speaker 1: have been, you know, one of the really important members

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Speaker 1: who's gotten a ton done progressive legislation. You're just sort

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Speaker 1: of a beloved member of Congress. What does it feel

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Speaker 1: like to be in this Hairess convention?

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 9: First of all, thank you for the kind words as well.

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Speaker 9: I love what I do. I'm blessed to be able

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Speaker 9: to serve in the House of Representatives. But I have

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Speaker 9: been to a number of conventions since nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 9: I also headed up the platform committee for John Carey

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Speaker 9: a number of years ago. But I will tell you

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Speaker 9: that we haven't seen the energy, the enthusiasm, the momentum

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Speaker 9: like this for such a long time. Two thousand and

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Speaker 9: eight we experienced that. But this is palpable. Can I

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Speaker 9: give you not from the convention, but just personally before

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Speaker 9: I came here, I went to the dentist last week

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Speaker 9: and I just went to get my teeth cleaned. I'm

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Speaker 9: sitting in the chair and you can't talk or anything.

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Speaker 9: But I've got the dental hygienis who's just talking to

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Speaker 9: me and talking to me and talking to me about

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Speaker 9: how wonderful Kamala Harris is. We need to get people

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Speaker 9: out to vote. So I'm saying there is a sense

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Speaker 9: of momentum and energy that we haven't seen in a

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Speaker 9: long time.

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Speaker 5: She raised five hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 9: Yes, and she's united. I'll start with uniting the party.

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Speaker 9: United the party.

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Speaker 5: So I want to ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: I have been on so many panels where white pundits

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Speaker 1: almost exclusively, men have said that she wasn't the choice,

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Speaker 1: they should skip her, they should you pick some other

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Speaker 1: group of white people. How many times she's incredible, She's

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Speaker 1: done better than anyone could have dreamed about any candidate.

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Speaker 5: She was so underestimated.

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Speaker 1: And you've done this for such a long time, don't

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Speaker 1: do you feel I mean, it must feel like gratifying

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Speaker 1: to see how great she is, but also frustrating to see.

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Speaker 9: How well you know, the fact is they're wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: they're just absolutely wrong. Yeah, And you know, in some

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Speaker 9: ways it's a view that women are not up to

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Speaker 9: these jobs. And without question, she's up to this job.

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Speaker 9: And you know, and she's proving that every day and

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Speaker 9: the work that she also did her own background in

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Speaker 9: California as a prosecutor, as an attorney general. It's a

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Speaker 9: very accomplished women. But it is tougher for women. It's

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Speaker 9: tough for women in the House of Representatives. Women have

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Speaker 9: to work harder, yes, of course, and nobody hands you anything.

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Speaker 9: You have to fight for what you have and you

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Speaker 9: get it because of your competence, of your capacity, your credibility,

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Speaker 9: and someone who can get the job done, and that

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Speaker 9: is who Kamala Harris is and you know, so she's

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Speaker 9: been doing it. It's just that there's some people who

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Speaker 9: haven't recognized it. But so be it. They're wrong and

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Speaker 9: she is proving them wrong. You're a member who's known

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Speaker 9: for getting a lot done and being one of.

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Speaker 1: Those people who's like, you know, pushing legislation.

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Speaker 5: And I've heard this from other members.

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Speaker 1: Pelosi is no longer the speaker, but we saw this

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Speaker 1: year her power. This talk to me about like women

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Speaker 1: congress power.

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Speaker 9: Well, yes, I mean, look, first of all, keep in mind,

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Speaker 9: know when I went to the Congress, there were fourteen women.

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Speaker 9: We now have one hundred and fifty women. And it's

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Speaker 9: not the numbers, it's the agenda and how the agenda changes.

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Speaker 9: When I first came, you know, which is you know,

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Speaker 9: thirty years ago, women and minorities were not included in

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Speaker 9: the clinical trials at the National Institutes of Health. We

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00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 9: know that women are physiologically different than men, but all

681
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 9: studies were done on men extrapolated to women. Lo and behold,

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Speaker 9: we got together on a bipartisan basis, the women of

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Speaker 9: the Congress, and we pushed and we pushed, and now

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Speaker 9: there are women and minorities who are included in the

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Speaker 9: clinical trials. Look at the issues that we're dealing with today.

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Speaker 9: Pay equity, equal pay for equal work, is a paid

687
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Speaker 9: family and medical leave, childcare, paid sick days, and for me,

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00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 9: the Crown Jewel is a child tax credit. Earlier on,

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Speaker 9: we thought we were the crazy ants in the attic. No,

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Speaker 9: now they are the public discourse. At the center of

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Speaker 9: that public discourse. Are all of these issues brought to

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Speaker 9: the four by the women in the Congress in addition

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Speaker 9: to that, but we could rereach out in the legislative body.

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Speaker 9: You have to reach out to build a coalition and

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Speaker 9: that is men as well, that you pull in and

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Speaker 9: form the coalition to get the job done.

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Speaker 1: Is there still bipartisans going on in Congress?

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Speaker 9: It's hard on some issues, you know there are and

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Speaker 9: members across the aisle can work together. Look, ranking member

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Speaker 9: of the Appropriations Committee, I've worked with Tom Cole you

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00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 9: know in the past Oklahoma, right and I chaired and

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Speaker 9: then he chaired the Labor, HHS, Health, Human Services and

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Speaker 9: Education Subcommittee. In the past there hadn't been an ability

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00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 9: to get that bill out of committee. Tom and I

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00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 9: work together. We have different views. We agreed on some

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00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 9: things disagreed, but we came to the compromise, which is

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Speaker 9: what you're supposed to do, and we passed appropriations bills

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Speaker 9: and we did that. I did that as chair two

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Speaker 9: years in succession. And you have to do that in

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00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 9: the bipartisan way because with those bills, if you don't,

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00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 9: the president doesn't sign.

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Speaker 5: Government shuts down.

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Speaker 1: Right though Republicans did manage to shut down the government

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Speaker 1: once when they controlled.

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Speaker 5: All three branches. That's right, which is not nothing.

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Speaker 9: No, it shouldn't be, and it shouldn't be now, especially

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00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 9: with appropriations. You've got to come to a compromise. I

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00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 9: get some of the things I wanted, I don't get everything,

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Speaker 9: and that's the same. It's the same for you. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 9: we're in a period of time here where the House

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Speaker 9: majority with the Republicans, they have crafted appropriations bills that

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Speaker 9: not only can't they get Democratic support, they cannot get

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Speaker 9: Republican support. So when we go back in September, it's

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Speaker 9: going to be a pretty wild time. And they put

725
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 9: in all these policy writers that are just ugly poison pills,

726
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Speaker 9: and they do not belong in appropriations bills. Last go round,

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Speaker 9: we got rid of ninety nine percent of them will

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Speaker 9: do that.

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Speaker 1: Again, do you think, I mean, what happened to the

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the House.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, look, I think they've been captured by

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Speaker 9: a minority that's a very vocal minority that honestly did

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Speaker 9: not come to govern. They don't know how to govern,

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Speaker 9: and they can't govern, but they don't don't want to govern, right, No,

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Speaker 9: they don't.

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Speaker 1: When you see these stuff that's in the state houses,

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Speaker 1: the Republican state houses, crazy crazy stuff, embryonic personhood, anti

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ stuff, does that stuff come.

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Speaker 5: Up to the federal government?

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Speaker 1: And when you have a Supreme Court that's so in

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00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: the tank for Republicans, how do you push against that?

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Speaker 9: That view is alive? And well, I mean, this is

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00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 9: a full scale assault on women and women's rights. It

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Speaker 9: didn't end with Roe v.

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Speaker 5: Wade.

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Speaker 9: You know, that was a piece they've been They've been

747
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 9: plotting this for many years. They've now moved really to

748
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Speaker 9: restrict contraception and IVF. So again, as I say, it's

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Speaker 9: a full scale assault. And for me, what it portends

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00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 9: is that this is a lack of respect, a lack

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Speaker 9: of trust in women to make decisions on behalf of themselves.

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Speaker 9: And their families. Lane and simple, We're.

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Speaker 5: Not going to roll it back. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Many.

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Speaker 3: Routin All represents District thirty two in the Colorado General Assembly.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to fast politics.

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Speaker 10: Mann, that's right, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: Mollett, tell us what you do, explain to us. You're

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Speaker 5: absolutely so.

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Speaker 10: I'm Manny Routinelle. I'm a state representative for Colorado. I

761
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Speaker 10: represent the great people of Commerce City, which you know

762
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Speaker 10: is a community full of vibrant, generous people. Unfortunately, it

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Speaker 10: is one of the dirtiest districts, not just in the state,

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Speaker 10: but in the entire country. And that's a result of

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Speaker 10: industrial polluters that are trying to profit off of the

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Speaker 10: backs of people of color and working class families that

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Speaker 10: are in my neighborhoods. So my job before I was

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Speaker 10: a legislator was to be an environmental attorney to hold

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Speaker 10: corporate polluters accountable. So I'm bringing that fight into the

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Speaker 10: capital to hold those same corporate polluters accountable.

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Speaker 5: You are a state rep in Colorado.

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Speaker 1: What can you do because you are at the state level,

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Speaker 1: what can you do to hold polluters accountable?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 10: So, because of the way the clean air at works

776
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Speaker 10: and so many other of our legislation headed from the

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Speaker 10: federal government down to the states. States actually have a

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Speaker 10: lot of control over how our environmental polluters are able

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Speaker 10: to function within our state, whether it's permitting decisions or

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Speaker 10: the types of regulations that they have to abide by.

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Speaker 10: And so we can pass all sorts of laws to

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Speaker 10: tighten regulations, make sure that if they do pollute when

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Speaker 10: they're not supposed to be, that those finds are appropriate

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Speaker 10: and cover the costs of remediation or covering the healthcare

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00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 10: costs of the people in the area.

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Speaker 5: So you really can sue to get your people covered.

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Speaker 10: So we create the laws, then our attorney friends can

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Speaker 10: take to sue.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and also agencies as well. Our agencies are able

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Speaker 6: to sue.

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Speaker 5: Is your governor aligned with those.

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Speaker 10: Yes, So we've got Governor Jared Poulis and he has luckily.

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Speaker 5: Been interviewed him. Oh great, he's.

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Speaker 10: Done a great job. He's been championing these issues for

795
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Speaker 10: a long time. Of course, there's always more to do,

796
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 10: and I'm sure he's always there to help us get there.

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Speaker 10: You know, there's always frustrations when we have to I'm

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00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 10: supposed to be fighting on behalf of my people as

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Speaker 10: hard as I as I can, and he's got more

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Speaker 10: different communities to consider, so there's always a little bit

801
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 10: of attension there, but for the most part, he's been

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00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 10: a great ally on this fight.

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Speaker 1: What do people need to know about your district and

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Speaker 1: about your fight?

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 10: What they need to know is that my area is

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Speaker 10: an environmental justice community of Latinos, working class people, and

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00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 10: the reason why it's the most polluted area, not just

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00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 10: in the state but in the entire country is because

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00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 10: of these industrial polluters and also the way the highways

810
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 10: crisscross the area. What they need to know is that

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Speaker 10: these people are amazing. They're generous, they're kind, they're loving.

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00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 10: They want to have everything that every other American wants

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00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 10: to have. They want to have food on their table,

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00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 10: a roof over their heads, to hang out outside, playing

815
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 10: on the playground, whatever it is, and not get cancer.

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00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 10: And so these are folks just like you and me. Unfortunately,

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 10: they've been put in a really bad position by some

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00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 10: industrial polluters, and so it's important to hold them accountable.

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Speaker 1: What does that look like, higher rates of cancer, higher

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00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: rates of asthma, nice carriages.

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Speaker 5: What does that look like?

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Speaker 10: You named so many of them pulary shoes of all kinds,

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00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 10: heart disease, you go down the list, and because of

824
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 10: the air and water concerns, you have all sorts of

825
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 10: issues that the community has to face. I've got kids

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Speaker 10: that have nose bleeds only in this area as opposed

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Speaker 10: to anywhere else. They've got asthma attacks when they're on

828
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 10: the playgrounds in this area more so than anywhere else.

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Speaker 10: So it's a really tough issue for quality of life.

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Speaker 10: It's a really tough issue for healthcare costs, and that's

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Speaker 10: all borne by this population as opposed to the corporate

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Speaker 10: polluters that are making these profits.

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Speaker 5: Are any of the corporate polluters still polluting?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, unfortunately, we do have a couple.

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Speaker 5: Tell us who they are, bad actors?

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Speaker 6: You want names, the details? Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's good. That's what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely yeah. So my area has the largest

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Speaker 10: oil refinery in the state. It's a company called Suncre,

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Speaker 10: and Suncre is actually headquartered or incorporated in Canada, and

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Speaker 10: so a lot of the profits that Suncre may have

842
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 10: goes to Canada. Now, unfortunately, Suncore as an oil refinery

843
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 10: built many, many, many, many decades ago, isn't in the

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Speaker 10: best shape and as a result, their systems fail, and

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00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 10: when their systems fail, pollution reeks havoc on our communities.

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00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so oil, refinery, suncore, what else is a bad

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00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: polluter in your neighborhood?

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Speaker 10: You know, there's all sorts of industrial polluters that are

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00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 10: playing a role there that I think we need to

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Speaker 10: make sure.

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Speaker 1: To industries if you don't want to name them, housements.

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00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 10: All sorts of warehouses that are responsible for a lot

853
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Speaker 10: of transportation related emissions that I think we need to

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00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 10: electrify those industries as much as possible. So it's all

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00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 10: sorts of different polluters, and it's a really complex web. Unfortunately,

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00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 10: once an area becomes polluted, then you keep piling it

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00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 10: on and I think that's where we're at right now.

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Speaker 5: So that's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything you can do on the healthcare side

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Speaker 1: to help these people?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean there's all sorts of healthcare related things

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00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 10: that we can help cover. A big part of what

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00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 10: I think we need to be doing is in the

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Speaker 10: process of holding these corporations accountable, making sure that the

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Speaker 10: fines that we place on them are you use to

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Speaker 10: help the community.

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Speaker 6: As much as possible.

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Speaker 10: As being supposed to being shipped off to another part

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Speaker 10: of the state, and so that could be covering healthcare

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00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 10: costs that could be electrifying a lot of the transportation,

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Speaker 10: like the buses for instance, things of that nature. So

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Speaker 10: I think we can cover healthcare costs, or we can

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Speaker 10: cover a lot of the upstream causes of those healthcare costs.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's where I think a lot of

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Speaker 10: folks want to spend most of our time and resources.

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Speaker 5: So interesting, so important. Thank you many, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much.

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Speaker 4: Molly, No momentuod.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a moment of uckeray Rick Wilson, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: mor of fuckery.

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Speaker 4: This week is, as we talked about a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 4: this sort of freakish double standard that Vice President Harris

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Speaker 4: and Tim Wallas are being held to on the matters

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Speaker 4: of policy and media access. Unless you're in Donald Trump's

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Speaker 4: sacred circle, you don't get media access to Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: in a real and meaningful way. What you get is

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Speaker 4: the Trump Show. You get the Donald Trump standing on

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Speaker 4: the stage, you know, like you just come off there

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Speaker 4: from helping paint thinner and just randomly fucking blurting out

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Speaker 4: lies that are rarely contemporariously fact checked, and rarely he

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Speaker 4: held to account as someone who is a guy who

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Speaker 4: incited a violent insurrection. He's rarely held to account as

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Speaker 4: a guy who overturned Roe v. Wade and brags about it.

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Speaker 4: And there's a sense of like, oh, well, Trump changes positions,

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Speaker 4: so we're just gonna treat that change of position as

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Speaker 4: if it's real. Yes, And with Harris, it's like I'm

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Speaker 4: starting to see coverage like in this case that she

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Speaker 4: tried in two thousand and one, it's there were questions

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Speaker 4: about whether or not the police handled the DNA evidence

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Speaker 4: properly in a related case. It's so fucking randomly, you know,

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Speaker 4: tangentially connected. They ignore the shit about Trump or I

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Speaker 4: get this and you know, you know you get this too,

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Speaker 4: for oh, everybody knows that. Everybody knows that about Trump.

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Speaker 4: That's all bigd in the cake. Don't worry about people

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Speaker 4: get Trump. They know it's just a lie. They know

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Speaker 4: he's lying. We don't have to report that he's lying

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Speaker 4: because they know that's not how this works. That's my

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Speaker 4: fockery and brought the media and here we are once again.

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Speaker 5: And my moment of rockery.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be close to yours, which is that

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Speaker 1: I'm actually going to talk about Tim Walls or I

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Speaker 1: am gonna Tim Walls. We saw a number of fake scandals.

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Speaker 1: Axios had something Axios reporter are and retweeted the editor

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Speaker 1: of the Washington Free Beacon. Let me tell you guys

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Speaker 1: a secret about the Washington Free Beacon that is not

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Speaker 1: a real newspaper.

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Speaker 5: And Rick Wilson, I would.

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Speaker 1: Like you to take a minute to explain to listeners

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Speaker 1: what the Washington Free Beacon is.

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Speaker 4: Go the Free Bacon, the Daily Caller.

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Speaker 1: But Free Beacon is literally funded by fancy Republicans as

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Speaker 1: an oppo dump machee.

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Speaker 4: Well, and that's what the Daily Caller was funded by

924
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Speaker 4: Foster Freeze for generation. What those things exist to do?

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Speaker 4: Daily Caller and Free Bacon especially, they are the cheapest

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Speaker 4: way to pass a hit piece along. Okay, after I

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Speaker 4: Trump pissed off last week, they immediately sent whatever opa

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Speaker 4: bullshit to the Free Beacon, the Daily call or whatever

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Speaker 4: it is, and they're firing emails at us like only

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Speaker 4: to respond to something that happened in twenty twenty. Fuck

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Speaker 4: off their whole world. Their whole range of behavior is

932
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Speaker 4: to try to launder bullshit opo so that the New

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Speaker 4: York Times picks it up, or the Washington Post picks

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Speaker 4: it up, or that Politico picks it up. They post

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Speaker 4: these stories that are always structured in such a way

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Speaker 4: if you read them correctly, you can identify which oppo

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Speaker 4: researcher wrote the fucking thing for them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Washington Free Beacon out a piece that said

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Speaker 1: Waltz boasted in nineteen ninety three he was named the

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Speaker 1: Outstanding Young Nebraska of the Nebraska Chamber of Commerce.

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Speaker 5: Well, it turns.

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Speaker 1: Out what that means is that basically there was a

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Speaker 1: kind of typo and it had said, in fact, he

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Speaker 1: was the junior the outstanding young Nebraska. He was actually

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Speaker 1: the outstanding by the Nebraska Junior Chamber of Commerce. And

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Speaker 1: this is a scandal which Alex Thompson from Axios has found.

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Speaker 5: It was a typo.

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Speaker 4: This is the kind of gotcha bullshit that these guys

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Speaker 4: just absolutely love, and they do it to launder it

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Speaker 4: so that the mainstream press will pick it up. And

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Speaker 4: they do it for well they did it before, for clicks.

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Speaker 4: Even though what you should know is Bridebart, Daily Call

953
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Speaker 4: or Free Beacon, National Review, Gayway Pundit all these things

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Speaker 4: in the right wing media sphere. They've been collapsing for

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Speaker 4: a long time in terms of their readership, and at

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Speaker 4: the moment, in the last set of com Score numbers,

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Speaker 4: all of them are falling off a cliff. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Magazine probably has more readers than the Free Beacon.

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Speaker 5: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And look, you know they're working super hard because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you a secret about Tim Walls.

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Speaker 5: He's very popular.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going to have to really really up their

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Speaker 4: game if they want to try to take down Tim Walls.

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Speaker 4: And so far, see, they made the worst OPA mistake, right,

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Speaker 4: They made a fundamental opera mistake. Ma pros know. But

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Speaker 4: a lot of these people grew up in like the

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Speaker 4: Trump era, where we were in a particular lacuna in

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Speaker 4: our media and political history where a tweet or a

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Speaker 4: post on Gateway pundit could change an election, not a

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Speaker 4: good way. But they made an opera mistake. They should

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Speaker 4: have led up with the small shit. Okay, they should

973
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Speaker 4: have let up and said, oh, well, we'll start with

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Speaker 4: did he lie about this Chamber of Commerce thing? And

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Speaker 4: then find some of the little bullshit thing a little

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Speaker 4: and then you say, when they hit him with the

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Speaker 4: big one. There's a pattern of deceptive behavior on the

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Speaker 4: part of them, right, They're too impulsive and stupid to

979
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Speaker 4: do that kind of thing, and they just don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: And Harris has learned a trick, one that I've learned,

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Speaker 4: you know, painfully, is when those people in that particular

982
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Speaker 4: part of the Maggi ecosphere are going after you ignore them.

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Speaker 4: Learning walls could do in that case to help their

984
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Speaker 4: their case is to somehow go out and teres with outrage.

985
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Speaker 4: That's why Harris whenever somebody says Cambela colombabla, oh campbell

986
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Speaker 4: a dingdong, all that fucking bullshit they're doing, they desperately

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Speaker 4: want the Harris campaign to go, oh, dull, you must

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Speaker 4: pronounce your name, you up, regis scoundrel and stead They're

989
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Speaker 4: like the fuck out of here. Yeah, that is the

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Speaker 4: way to handle these people. You cannot give them the

991
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Speaker 4: attention that will help them elevate the story. You have

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Speaker 4: to just move on, kick ass, go past them.

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Speaker 5: Exactly. That is right. Thank you, Rick Wilson, Thank you well.

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Speaker 4: With John Fast, I will be seeing you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in

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Speaker 1: in politics.

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