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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: you home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt today lookie minicamp. Yeah, very interesting stuff

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Speaker 1: and I know we have a an interview to get

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Speaker 1: to here with a certain quarterback who's not new in town.

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Speaker 1: Barbacks that the Steelers had at their rookie minicamp this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Kenny Pickett meeting with the media after his

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Speaker 1: first practice today with the Steelers. Let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: let and let people hear what Kenny had to say,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about what Kenny had to say.

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Speaker 1: Let's go here he goes. It's like your head swimming

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Speaker 1: from everything you have learned. Um, you know, I have

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Speaker 1: a pretty good background with with the offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: Coach Cannon recruited me here um to Pitt right next door,

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Speaker 1: and then Coach Watson kind of cut some of the

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Speaker 1: same formation. So, um, you know I thought the wall

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Speaker 1: through say, I went pretty well. I'm excited practice and

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Speaker 1: you know a couple of hours, what's the first day? Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're used to going out here and going

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Speaker 1: to bad field. Yeah, you come out to this field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is shorter walk pretty much. Um, No, it was great.

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Speaker 1: I mean I just really trying to learn how these

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Speaker 1: guys names. I really haven't got a chance to meet anybody.

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Speaker 1: We've been in meetings and um, you know, I want

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Speaker 1: to call guys out to help and stuff and talk

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Speaker 1: and I have no clue what I'm talking to. So

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Speaker 1: I think at lunch I probably handle that next. Is

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Speaker 1: anything overwhelming yet for you? Um, I would say we're

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Speaker 1: kind of doing a good job of taking a step

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Speaker 1: at a time. Really, um, taking it slow. It's a

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Speaker 1: walk through, but guys really wanted to run fast. I

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Speaker 1: know everyone's excited to practice. So we'll see how it

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Speaker 1: goes a couple of hours. Would life been like, you know,

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Speaker 1: now that you're a Pittsburgh Steeler walking around, you know,

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Speaker 1: talking to people and people obviously recognizing you. Yeah, it's definitely, um,

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Speaker 1: a little different, but I mean I love this let

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Speaker 1: that goes so like my second second home here. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, so, I feel feel really comfortable in the

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Speaker 1: city of Pittsburgh. Field billion times going any different when

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Speaker 1: you came out today, Yeah, different colors? Mean, like I

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Speaker 1: said Shorter. Walk different colors, um, but still playing football

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Speaker 1: or something I love to do. So it feels great

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Speaker 1: to be out of the long off season. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a quarterback competition, but how do you kind of

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Speaker 1: set the foundation for that this weekend? This is learning

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Speaker 1: what I have to do. I mean, I got no

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Speaker 1: just kind of really dedicating myself to the playbook and learning,

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Speaker 1: you know, every detail I possibly can, you know, to

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Speaker 1: give ourselves a best shot, you know, to operate out here.

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Speaker 1: I just really want to have a smooth practice with

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Speaker 1: these guys, and uh, you know, hopefully everyone looks good.

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Speaker 1: You should. The offense, it's the same terminology and everything.

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Speaker 1: The shame it wasn't not by the same I don't

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Speaker 1: mean identical. I mean the formations that Coach Canada had

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Speaker 1: So I had some kind of recaller that which which

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Speaker 1: have to do more work behind center instead of the shotguns? Um?

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Speaker 1: I mean it is, but I did a lot of

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Speaker 1: I thought the walk through went well. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for you know, practice Candy have to do

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Speaker 1: think it's all mental. Really, it's it's not what I

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Speaker 1: so I can play fast. That's the that's the number

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Speaker 1: one key. Can you're growing the whole PAYBI no stage

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Speaker 1: know we just had the wall through. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: But one step at a time. But your first thoughts

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Speaker 1: Grateful for for all the you know, kind words and

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Speaker 1: and encouragement from everybody, and I really appreciate the love

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm excited to play here. On autograph requests, Yeah, yes, yes, definitely.

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Speaker 1: That was new Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett talking about the

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Speaker 1: the offense and you know, um he when Matt Cannada

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Speaker 1: He had meant that, you know, he talked about it

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Speaker 1: that that's one of the reasons why you know, they've

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Speaker 1: It's because he likes you for you. If he stops

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Speaker 1: yelling at you, that's when you're in trouble. YEP. One

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Speaker 1: of our first meetings at Pitt when the freshman class

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Speaker 1: would come in, both the preferred walk ons and all

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Speaker 1: Now you're hours and you're not going in there no

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Speaker 1: transfer back then, and it's gonna get harder for you.

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Speaker 1: And you're not the best player on the team like

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Speaker 1: you were at al Equipper, Woodland Hills or whatever, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get yelled at and you're not gonna like it,

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Speaker 1: but be worried when it stops, you know, that's when

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Speaker 1: it's time. That's I don't time for you anymore. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna waste my time, you know. And you can

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Speaker 1: see where Harrison would be a perfect fit for that.

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Speaker 1: It would be the talent was there, and he just

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Speaker 1: didn't wasn't channeling it in the right direction. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's not the most open to criticism fella in

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Speaker 1: the world, know what I mean? Yeah, But you know,

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Speaker 1: I watching really that's what I was kind of watching

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Speaker 1: today was how to pick and get them in and

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Speaker 1: out of the huddle, things of that nature. I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of coon I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing his name, but we need to get

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Speaker 1: good at that. I avoided all the time. I called

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Speaker 1: him the seventh round quarterback. Um, he did a fine

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Speaker 1: job doing that as well. And I think that, you

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Speaker 1: know again, I think that's people were overlooking why they

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Speaker 1: drafted him. That's one of the you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to have to spend a time with two rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say the time for three quarterbacks period,

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Speaker 1: let alone two rookies is the fourth guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: so if he's a quick learner, that's a home run.

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Speaker 1: That's it's probably a tiebreaker in the seventh round. Like,

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Speaker 1: there's three quarterbacks here, we like selecting one makes sense

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Speaker 1: because we don't want to have to recruit him because

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna get any reps here. Who's the quickest learner,

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Speaker 1: who's good, who's the less maintenance? Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I'll say this as well. Uh, in terms of his

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Speaker 1: body type, he looks the part. Okay, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: he's tall, he's he's put together. Well that's rare in

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Speaker 1: this quarterback class by way, and has it has a

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Speaker 1: strong arm. I mean, I can see why you would

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Speaker 1: look at him and go, okay, there's there might be

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Speaker 1: something there. I know they don't do a lot of

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Speaker 1: I've read and been told that he's a plus athlete

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean he's not a stiff, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I mean there's something you see you Um. People

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Speaker 1: wonder why a lot of these quarterbacks fell. A lot

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Speaker 1: of it was size. People like pick six ft tall,

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Speaker 1: he didn't grow. We talked about it in the lead

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Speaker 1: up to the draft, like, well, there's a you know,

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Speaker 1: this guy's shade under six one. This guy's a shade

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Speaker 1: under six one. Pick it was the only one who

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Speaker 1: was six three. He was on one that didn't have

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Speaker 1: but ridders lean but riders. Of the top guys, pick

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Speaker 1: it one was pick I was the only one didn't

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Speaker 1: have some sort of body concern other than his hands. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess so yeah, but I mean just size strength,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh wait, bulk And I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: watching him throw today, Um, there's a good ball. It's

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Speaker 1: a very catchable ball. It's he he gets it out decisively,

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Speaker 1: hits the hits the receiver's in stride um. And I

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Speaker 1: don't only get better with I don't see any you know,

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Speaker 1: off target throws or anything like that. Everything was the

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Speaker 1: ball placement was great, and that's that's his calling card.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think it's accuracy. But the timing, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can you're seeing timing. Is he you're gonna throw

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Speaker 1: the ball through? Uh you know the the car washing

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Speaker 1: not get a wet No, but neither does Joe Burrow. No.

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Speaker 1: But if it comes out on if it's an anticipatory throw,

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Speaker 1: you can make up for arms, right, Like a lot

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Speaker 1: of these big, big arm quarterbacks have gotten away with

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Speaker 1: bad habits and the fact that I can wait till

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Speaker 1: that guy breaks open, because I can throw this thing

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Speaker 1: eight million miles an hour and get it in there.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't, you have to have the anticipation,

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Speaker 1: and he sure did in college. I I you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know again that will ever be a star quarterback, um,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's certainly good enough that you can

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Speaker 1: win with him, especially on a rookie deal, right right

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Speaker 1: if if he's got a big time running game and

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Speaker 1: a good line and a strong defense, I think they'll

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Speaker 1: be hard to play against. I think it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks when we get a look.

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Speaker 1: We still haven't say, I still haven't seen Mr Bisky

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Speaker 1: on on the field yet. Yeah, I guess not. That

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Speaker 1: won't happen until we get to UH to O t

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Speaker 1: A S here in a couple of which will be

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Speaker 1: broadcasting front. We will be broadcasting UH O t A

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Speaker 1: S and UH Rookie Minicamp doesn't go much longer. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's just like a it's just this weekend. Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you start looking at the Rookie or

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Speaker 1: the O t A schedule. Um, they're coming up soon.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to broadcast Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of

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Speaker 1: those weeks. Yes, I think you and I are gonna

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Speaker 1: be on from one to three every day during O

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Speaker 1: t A. S UM West and UH are going to

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Speaker 1: be on from ten to one, so we'll have we'll

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Speaker 1: have you covered six straight hours of Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's good stuff five from O t A. If it'll

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Speaker 1: be a sort them or if it even happens this year,

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Speaker 1: But it used to be that, you know, a guy

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Speaker 1: would come right off practice, sit down with us, you know,

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Speaker 1: all sweaty, and spend a segment with us or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but you get some insight. I remember a ball crashing

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Speaker 1: into us at one time and things like that, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it would just be good to be around the game. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to that as well. But that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for the first segment. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we'll talk schedule and

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Speaker 1: everything that happened there that was released Thursday night. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that right after this. You're listening to Dale

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Speaker 1: Ally Matt Williamson here, on the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.