WEBVTT - 2 Live & Die In LA 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.400 This is the Gangster Chronicles weekly podcast about the criminal 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.520 element in the streets, entertainment and politics, hosted by Reggie 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.520 Wright and James McDonald on the Digital Soapbox Network. Gangster 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:16.400 Chronicles with Reggie Wright Jr. Former head UH Security of 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.360 Death Row Records and uh former comfter police officer and 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.960 my partner um Mob James. I wish they head of 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:30.520 security before my brother took over. Um I did a 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.680 little bit of everything for sure. Night Yep, yep. So 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.360 you know what we're gonna do is we got this 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.360 little podcast go on, and our boy Norman Still, who's 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.000 our producer, He's gonna explain what's going on and what 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.320 we're gonna be doing. And so Norm go ahead and 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.480 tell the people what we're gonna be doing monthly every 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.400 other Thursday, once a week. We're gonna be coming to y'all. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.960 So please please please want y'all check in and always coming. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:01.520 Download our podcast and check us out or this against 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.959 the Chronicles. Let school cover all elements of crying from 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.840 the streets to entertainment, the politics, wherever, wherever, it's the 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.679 criminal element. Okay, okay, so let's go ahead and get started. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.240 We're excited James and I are excited. This is something 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.920 new for us. So y'all bear with us. All we're 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.880 gonna get better with time. First. First, first, I want 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:26.319 to say this, my mother just passed and I was 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.319 I'm in the process of doing the book and I 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.720 dedicated that to it before she passed, and I wanted 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:39.319 to dedicate my first show to my mother. That's cool, Okay, Soles, 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.440 rest in peace. I love you. This one on you. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.400 I love you, yep, and I hope we'll be able 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.080 to do uh number one hundred. Then we're gonna do 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.279 a special anniversary when we do our number one hundred 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.880 podcast for that we get there, alright, alright, So this 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.600 is what we're gonna deal with today on our first podcast, 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.360 and we're gonna give honor or respect to the reason 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.200 why you guys know us and know who we are, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.600 and that's because of the Death Row error. Uh. And 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.960 so one of the most popular songs UH that was 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.480 done during the death Row era of Time to Live 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.760 the Die l A. We're gonna we're gonna talk about 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.800 some of the homies that are the gangsters, are ex 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.519 gangsters that was around that you all know from the 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.360 Living Dia l a song that Tupac did. Uh. So 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.680 we're gonna first start off with a big ship. We're 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.839 in the low low, y'all remember that verse that Park 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.760 put out. We're gonna do Park last. YEA. I don't 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.560 get mad as not talking about Park first. But we're 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:44.040 gonna talk about big ship. And so you know, James 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.320 and I both and I let James talk about him 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.640 in a little in a bit, but give us some 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.280 history on on big Ship. We all lived in the 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.400 same neighborhood. We all grew up in the uh it's 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.360 a it's a gang area behind the Compton Swap Meeting. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.840 Uh you know the Compton Swap Meeting Long be so 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:07.040 Old Sears uh on on Bullets Road near Rosecrans. It's called, uh, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.560 you know, the Conference Swap meet. So anyway, we grew 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.320 up in the neighborhood and that's a gang area called 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:18.840 the mob part Rule area. UM used to be affiliated 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.280 with some of your older heads with the Losers Park Parule. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.480 But we lived in the mob Paru area. Man, That's 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.240 why James got his name mob from But I let 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.480 him get into that with you guys. But we grew up. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.720 We both grew up right around the corner less than 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.160 um half of half a mile from Sugar Knight, who 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.800 you all know from being the you know, the one 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.640 of the co executive executives of death row records from 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:50.520 back in the day. Um, so you know, James was 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.360 the one that started off with Sugar. I mean, when 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.440 death row records open, James was there and he was 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.240 one of his head right hand dudes that was right 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:05.400 right with y that pretty much should have been and 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.680 the owner or have a percentage in death row because 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.120 all of the work that he put in with what 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.160 should to make it happen. But we'll get into those 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.120 stories over due time. And then I came around the 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.960 death row record because I was a cop in the 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.640 city of Compton that grew up what even want to 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.640 James and I both went to elementary, junior high and 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.480 high school with Shock. I played football with James is 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.479 a little hardheaded, so in high school he went another 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.320 route and then and then finished with us. But but 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.640 that's just me tapping at James. But um, anyway, so 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.280 I became a police officer, should went on and did 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.840 some things, play some football, and after you got through 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.040 playing football, he started working with al Hayman, the boxer 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.919 promoter doing some stuff for concerts. And that's when James 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.240 coming around. And so James go ahead and tell him 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:58.760 how you hooked up with Sugar and how you and 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.000 she pretty much started off. What's going on with everybody 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:08.320 out there? Um, me and sull U surrive our motorcycles together. Uh, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.320 maybe he wants to try as his mother wouldn't let 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.279 him too much hang out with us, and uh we 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:18.320 snug and got out there a couple of times. Um, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.960 after school, should win his way. I went my way. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:25.000 I was incarcerated, got out of the penitentiary and and 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.159 uh should came and scooped the brother up and you know, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.839 looked off of me. And next thing I know, you 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.120 know this, this cat right here was on on our 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.520 planes with him going out of town, you know, doing 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.480 the bud while the super Fess the whole nine, seeing 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.560 a lot of ship out there with ship. But then 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:48.120 after that we started putting Death Road together. And in 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.360 the process of putting Death Road together, we had to 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.680 get certain people to make Death Row happen, which is 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.839 drem Miss was our first. Uh. Contracts we had to 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.520 get from from Easy and Jerry Heller, So we went 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:07.039 up to Jerry Heller's office, Ruthless Records, and and we 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.400 got those contracts, and uh, jer and michel A came 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.039 with us, and you know, we had a guy named 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.560 Tom Klein from our previous but from shoots previous record company, 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.599 Parnier Records, and we took off from there. Okay, okay, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.800 So that's where they that's where they started at, and 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.640 that's how Shill and James our relationship started. So I'll 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.760 jump a little fast forward a little hit and tell 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.400 you how I came around. So I was being a 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:38.200 copy in the city of Compton and my father and I, uh, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.080 my father, Reginald Wright Senior, who was over the game 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.920 um unit and Compton and all of that. KA got 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:48.039 some mentel that uh some of the cats that was 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:53.279 working for ship probably mov James himself, but now, but 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.279 some of the cats were planning on taking that nigger 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:01.239 and tying him up and you know, extorting his family 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.680 for some money or David Kenner or whoever to get 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.520 give up some money to get him back. And so 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.680 uh we gave him that intail and that immediately, you know, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.400 Sill was like, okay, okay, well that's why one of y'all. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.880 Y'all need to be over here with me. I need 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.440 one of y'all over here to watch my back. Pops 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.560 immediately laughed at he men told him, man, I'm not 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.160 about that. I'm not coming over there to work working 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.320 with those guys. Most of the guys is working for you. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.920 I'm trying to put in jail on on some cases 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:34.160 right now. But you know me years of age, a youngster, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.720 and you know, knowing what Death Roll was about women, 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.160 I was like, man, I need to uh, I need 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.480 to be around that and also anyway, so I eventually 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.840 got hired by you know, Shug and started hanging out 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.760 with him and and yeah, so that's how we started 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.160 off with Sugar, and that's how we both got affiliated 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.640 from Ship got affiliated with Ship, and so that's our 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.280 story there. We'll get more detailed to things that we 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.360 deal with him and all of that. So that was 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.360 our relationship with Shell. So the next person that was 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.080 mentioned on To Live and Die the l A song, 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.360 and that's what we call in this episode to Live 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.960 and Die l A shown these are people that y'all 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.520 know that Park mentioned in that song. The next person 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:21.560 with big neck bomb neck Bomb Neckbone is still a lie. 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.720 It's not in jail. He's one of the few that 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.679 can say that that was mentioned on that song. He's 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:32.240 uh living out in the I area and raising his kids. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:37.120 Y'all know Neckbone because he's the father and him and 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.840 raised the lady of Rage. They had a kid together 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:45.000 while they were stranded on Death Front. And yeah, so 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.280 that's some of my members about Big Neckbone. Uh, James 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.560 Big Neckbone is one of the one of the closest 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.600 homeboys we had in the hood. With the business. Uh, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.199 you didn't never have to action for nothing twice or 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.439 do nothing twice. He was with it and and phrase guy, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.440 he's still here with us. You know, we lost a 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.560 lot of brothers. I lost my brother also, but he's 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.440 still here. He's still doing his thing taking care of girls. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.480 That was the big nack. Yep. Ye. Look, can we 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.160 go back to something real quick. You know, it's a 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.600 lot of mytholics around Death Row, a lot of stuff 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.240 that might have happened, a lot of stuff that probably 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:30.320 didn't happen. Just to go back a little bit, when 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.000 you guys first started off Death Row and you had 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:34.480 to go get the artist and you want to got 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.680 Micha LEI and you want to got dre was Eric 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.880 easy to eat right actually in the office when you 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:45.440 got I was there personally. I went. I was standing 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.920 there with the bodyguard against wall ship going off as 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.760 hand of your business. Uh me and a couple of 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:56.960 the other little hommies, three little hommies, and our purpose 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.880 was to go talk to Jerry checks that Jerry Oda 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.439 some money for something, okay, whatever, and we need to 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.880 get these contracts. We thought we was gonna catch Easy 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.880 up there and get at them both together. But Easy 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:14.320 wasn't there, so she'll win in the office and hand 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.839 of this business. He got a check before we left, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.960 and he had the files permission and dreke, oh wow. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.200 So they just signed them over that Easy. He gave 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.320 him up. He gave him to Shill. I don't know 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.880 how they signed it or do whatever. I didn't see 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.719 showed Jade okay, he signed it. When we left out 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.880 of roofless. We hopped in the car, shipped in the 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.640 car and we bounched. But she'll got a check and 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.480 she'll got the contract, so she got to check up 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.400 out of it. So he took his artist and got 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.640 to check up out of it. So the stuff in 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.040 the movie was pretty much shall myth with the whole 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:52.320 thing with Drake Colin easy up there and the dudes 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.640 just jumping on him. That's why we're here, and that's 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.960 why y'all got to tune into this podcast, because you're 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:58.920 gonna get the reil from here. A lot of them 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.280 from the Horses Mole exactly. A lot of that ship 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:06.000 is so watered down that that, you know, Dred don't 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.920 show what really happened to them, You know what I'm saying. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.520 They had an episode in there with Dre was hidden 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.040 death row security would have got his ass whoop touching 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.679 on one of us or anybody that was affiliated with 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.160 the mob, and then everybody would have whipped his ass. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.920 So a lot of that ship was was was it was. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.240 It was fake. It was fake. And and but if 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:30.880 the guys want to tell it like that and make 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.080 it seem like they were the man. No. I remember 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:38.040 Dre at the skate ring. I remember Drake and all 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:46.600 gold and silver. You know, never was with the business. Never, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.600 he wasn't a game banger. He was in a game 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.560 banger man. I took the dude sixty folk Chivy wouldn't 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.120 giving it back to him. I should And the only 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.280 thing he said to me is how you like to ride? 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.559 I'm digging it. I'm having to ball hitting switches all 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.160 over the place. And man, another myth that that's out 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.760 there the talk about because he even touched on Easy. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.439 Everybody think Easy was this big high roller dealing with 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.720 cocaine and all of that. All Easy did was he 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.960 was a marijuana seller and y'all need it. If y'a 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.200 don't want to listen to me, go listen to Alonzo Wins. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.560 He did a show what was on my YouTube channel 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.280 called bomb First, and he told it. He told the 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.000 story on that. He said all Easy was he knew 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.960 how to save money. He was real feudal with his money, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.880 but he was the weed connect. He had a good 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.440 weed connect and he was selling the weed to all 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.440 of the different homies and stuff like that. So that's 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.160 all that Easy was as well. So those proceeds from 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.040 the weed sales did go on to formulate ruthless records 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.520 later on there exactly, but said he was good with 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.560 his money, was saving his money. So so you know, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.640 let me go back now we're talking about Easy and 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.079 everything we would get back to the homies and the song, right, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:57.120 But going back to Easy now legendary do He did 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.160 a lot of stuff West Coast music. He mean, you know, 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.560 Death for a Wood. There was very pivotal record companies 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.440 for the West Coast. Did you ever, guys, did you 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:09.920 guys ever run across Easy in the streets anything like that? Yeah, well, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.640 it used to be this this amateur show on Sunset 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.800 and me and Sugar used to go there and we 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.640 used to see Easy there. That's when I knew it 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.080 was something wrong with Easy. But we ran across him 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.200 at the bubb Wise super Fast in the backstage, I 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.160 got a homeboy named Kenny tub Rest in peace. Uh 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.960 walked up joint, tapped his pockets. Easy moved his hand. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.120 He tapped his pocket, told him, don't move, took his money. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.320 Next day he went and brought him up callac. He 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.880 robbed Easy, Well, let's let's go back, not to cook 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.960 you off. You said, that's when you'll realized something wrong 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.600 with Easy. What do you mean you think he knew 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:53.400 when he when he when he had because he had 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.080 on two T shirts to sweatshirts and a T shirt 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.360 and he just didn't look right at that time. Well 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.120 that's you know, and that's a whole another story right there, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.720 you know, just we're easy because that's the first time 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.080 ever I think somebody kicking HIV and don't know, baby 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.800 Mama's have it. Don't nobody else have it. But that's 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.559 a whole different story just going back. So as far 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.839 as him, it just wouldn't never no conflict or nothing 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.640 like that. He had no goons and nobody would have 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.560 well he's I mean, who got Drey Limb yellow. I 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.760 mean that's all I ever seen them with. I'm from Compton, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.880 and those dudes wouldn't game bankers. Them dudes made a 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.080 lot of money offer, you know, for traying being crypts, 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.880 and they wouldn't factors in Compton. They never was. They 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.040 never was crypt just like that movie see before, that's 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.160 all them dudes was. And Easy was the only one 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.600 that had ties in Kelly Park, which is a crypt 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:54.400 neighborhood in Compton. But but Dre and the rest they 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.560 wasn't there, wasn't no, they would not there doing what 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.480 we was doing. We never ran into him and we 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.920 used to get into it all the time. So y'all 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.360 was pretty much just the wolves out there. Y'all, the 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.160 wolves are death from so y'all the reason everybody was 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:16.560 scared petro ye now y'all, Okay, you know when we 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.960 had firm here records, it was common, it was cool. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.040 But then when my brother bunch got out of the penitentiary, 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.160 he hired some more than homies from the penitentiary as 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.600 they was getting out. So to hear, you got ten 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.320 guys from out of the penitentiary. They work out together 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.600 every day, and what bunch You had some twenties ones, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:45.760 but the rest of them was exactly so you had 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.720 these guys and then now sheould wants this and want 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.960 to portray that. So that's where all that came from. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.320 When when heavy d and all of them was seeing 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.920 should they've seen all these bloods behind it? Who was 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.479 this dude squad? And that's all they used to say, 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.120 and with the most second guess and Sugar when no 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.040 more talking back to Shugar, she pretty much did what 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:15.960 he wanted to because he had nothing but goons. Wow. 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.920 So so let me tell you this, let me ask 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.360 you this, and I promise we're not gonna keep dragging 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.120 along everything. But this is the stuff that people want 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.720 to hear and there's so many stories, you know what 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.400 I mean, It's just so much. This is what you 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.160 guys will get to tune into every week just to 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.200 hear the real stories from the horse's mouth, not no 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.960 water down stuff, not them on another show where they 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:38.880 just cutting off pieces of what they want to hear 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.600 to say, it's a fan fair. This is from these 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.840 guys mouth from their life. You know what I mean? 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.160 You know, so subscribe, leave a comment, let us know 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.720 what you think is. This is what's gonna be going 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.800 down every week. Going back to this, this whole thing 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:55.280 with Should, so Should. Did you notice a gradual change 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.800 in him from him having the most because you figured, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.600 not only does he have one of the most fear 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.640 game in company, now he got the police with him too. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.399 So did you guys noticed exchange in his demeanor? I 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.440 do this to change. When it first started, when we 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.359 was with Fernhill and Chill went to death Row, Sheill 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:17.680 was wearing brown suits, green suits, whatever color it wasn't red. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.919 And then when we got the bunch ofies the ju 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.600 jus to have rhins, then okay, I got more than 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:28.600 a mile James now and I'm gonna step my game up. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:34.920 So now he's taking pictures. Now he's with the jury 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.040 and all of this ship. The big said, God, Sheil 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.560 never did that. He never did that until all of 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:45.720 these guys came. And when when everybody came, Sheill pretty 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.320 much felt like he was on top of the world 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.399 and everything about shook. His whole demeanor and everything changed. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.320 The way he talked to people, all that change, and 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.800 it kind of ticked me off because he changed like that, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.680 and that was one of our biggest reason and footballer 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.960 now and just me bagging away from me because he 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.400 turned into a total different person. Yeah, it's it's kind 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.680 of a sad thing, you know, and I um talk 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.560 about that all the time, you know, just with my 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.560 buddies and everything on how you had a company that 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.560 just made millions of dollars so quick, you know, black 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.399 owned company, you know, make millions of dollars and really, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.719 you know, instead of just coming and perpetuating the negativity, 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.199 he could have really did some positives and changed a 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.720 lot of people's lives. You know. It was it was 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:34.159 so many things that positive that he did, but it 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:40.040 wasn't enough. Like Christmas, Eastern Mother Day, that's cool, but 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.119 you worth over five hundred and sixty five million dollars 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.760 at one point. And then here you are, you you 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:52.160 turning the record company into a game banging session. Now 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:56.480 we're talking about murder. Now we're talking about doing by 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.320 any mean its necessary to the person if anybody say no. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.960 So now that change. Now you've got people that man, 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.480 I'm I'm just got out of prison and she was happening. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.520 Why the whole staff was on PA and he was 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.760 manipulating and playing everybody against each other. That was the 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.719 main problem. He would be like, well if you do this, 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.440 or do this, or do this to most of the homies. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.840 That and we'll get into later that when they started 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:30.199 beefing and dying. Behind was all behind the manipulation of 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.080 him playing everybody against each other. When we get into 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.320 the heron beef with George George Wells and all that 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.119 is all behind a motherfucking car where he tricked or 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.640 trying to convince heron and going and collecting this car. 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.399 How Big Rock who's in prison right now? That was 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.840 on the song. I think that he was put in 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.560 jail because he wouldn't turn over a car, which is untrue. 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.919 You know everything that you acting, it goes back to this. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:06.959 You got fifteen penitenty motherfucker's with you. How is you 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.879 able to control thud cast them been to jail for 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.880 murder and everything else there've been to jail for, I mean, 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.159 slapping their mama, And how do you control that? And 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.680 that's one thing I give Shild. Shild took us and 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:27.800 and pretty much like a some some promising and then 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.160 at the end of the day we all wind back 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.960 in the neighborhood or in the grave or in prison. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.159 And he did that and and you know a lot 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:40.119 of people say, well that's your fault. Damn show is it? 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:45.639 Damn show is But I mean he made his situation 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:50.800 happen to where, man, I can't fail if I got 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.200 all these guys on my tip and then I'm pan 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.080 them because everybody on Death Road never had a job, 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.639 none of them. So to actually see a check and 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.879 not rob nobody for it, that's what killed the whole game, 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.920 you know what I'm saying. So everybody by enemies necessary, 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.520 I'm gonna get my money, And that's what changed everything. 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:16.800 Everything flipped at that point. And people don't understand the 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.639 guy is gifted in a lot of ways, but at 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.239 the end of the day. Did nobody come out of 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.520 it a winner? Nobody? No, none of us? So none 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.679 of us? Wow, So let me ask you guys this. 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:30.679 Then I go back and then we go back to 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:32.480 Living Die in l A. That's the name of the show, 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.040 just name of the episode today. Do you guys at 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.520 every point, at any point, do you guys think should 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.360 was kind of scared a little bit? Is that why 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.399 he started with the trigger ration and everything? People against 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.440 each other? I got you on that one. When she 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:54.919 realized that he was dealing with some real cutthought, straight 0:21:55.000 --> 0:22:01.000 up bloods. That was was undercover. I need this and 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.639 you better get it. And he didn't have no choice 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.080 but to do it. She'll tried to find a way 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.280 like myself, Like myself, he tried to find a way 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:16.240 to to cut you out the circle. So he was 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.840 scared a lot of times. A lot of times. Yeah, 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.119 he was scared because and that's and what do you 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:23.600 what do you mean by that? As well? I'll try 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:25.880 to say he would play the money and that's when 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.960 he was going offer this guy this amount of money 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.679 to go and deal and go and deal with this, 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:34.440 and you know, he would dangle the money in front 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:40.919 of another person or this person that situation. He played it, 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.840 I said, and watched it. I said, and watch it. 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.919