1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: This is the Gangster Chronicles weekly podcast about the criminal 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: element in the streets, entertainment and politics, hosted by Reggie 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Wright and James McDonald on the Digital Soapbox Network. Gangster 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Chronicles with Reggie Wright Jr. Former head UH Security of 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Death Row Records and uh former comfter police officer and 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: my partner um Mob James. I wish they head of 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: security before my brother took over. Um I did a 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: little bit of everything for sure. Night Yep, yep. So 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do is we got this 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: little podcast go on, and our boy Norman Still, who's 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: our producer, He's gonna explain what's going on and what 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing. And so Norm go ahead and 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: tell the people what we're gonna be doing monthly every 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: other Thursday, once a week. We're gonna be coming to y'all. 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: So please please please want y'all check in and always coming. 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Download our podcast and check us out or this against 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: the Chronicles. Let school cover all elements of crying from 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: the streets to entertainment, the politics, wherever, wherever, it's the 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: criminal element. Okay, okay, so let's go ahead and get started. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: We're excited James and I are excited. This is something 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: new for us. So y'all bear with us. All we're 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna get better with time. First. First, first, I want 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: to say this, my mother just passed and I was 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: I'm in the process of doing the book and I 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: dedicated that to it before she passed, and I wanted 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: to dedicate my first show to my mother. That's cool, Okay, Soles, 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: rest in peace. I love you. This one on you. 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: I love you, yep, and I hope we'll be able 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: to do uh number one hundred. Then we're gonna do 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 1: a special anniversary when we do our number one hundred 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: podcast for that we get there, alright, alright, So this 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: is what we're gonna deal with today on our first podcast, 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: and we're gonna give honor or respect to the reason 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: why you guys know us and know who we are, 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: and that's because of the Death Row error. Uh. And 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: so one of the most popular songs UH that was 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: done during the death Row era of Time to Live 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: the Die l A. We're gonna we're gonna talk about 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: some of the homies that are the gangsters, are ex 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: gangsters that was around that you all know from the 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Living Dia l a song that Tupac did. Uh. So 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna first start off with a big ship. We're 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: in the low low, y'all remember that verse that Park 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: put out. We're gonna do Park last. YEA. I don't 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: get mad as not talking about Park first. But we're 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk about big ship. And so you know, James 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: and I both and I let James talk about him 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: in a little in a bit, but give us some 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: history on on big Ship. We all lived in the 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: same neighborhood. We all grew up in the uh it's 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: a it's a gang area behind the Compton Swap Meeting. 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Uh you know the Compton Swap Meeting Long be so 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: Old Sears uh on on Bullets Road near Rosecrans. It's called, uh, 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Conference Swap meet. So anyway, we grew 55 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: up in the neighborhood and that's a gang area called 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: the mob part Rule area. UM used to be affiliated 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: with some of your older heads with the Losers Park Parule. 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: But we lived in the mob Paru area. Man, That's 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: why James got his name mob from But I let 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: him get into that with you guys. But we grew up. 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: We both grew up right around the corner less than 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: um half of half a mile from Sugar Knight, who 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: you all know from being the you know, the one 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: of the co executive executives of death row records from 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: back in the day. Um, so you know, James was 66 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: the one that started off with Sugar. I mean, when 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: death row records open, James was there and he was 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: one of his head right hand dudes that was right 69 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: right with y that pretty much should have been and 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: the owner or have a percentage in death row because 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: all of the work that he put in with what 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: should to make it happen. But we'll get into those 73 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: stories over due time. And then I came around the 74 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: death row record because I was a cop in the 75 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: city of Compton that grew up what even want to 76 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: James and I both went to elementary, junior high and 77 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: high school with Shock. I played football with James is 78 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: a little hardheaded, so in high school he went another 79 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: route and then and then finished with us. But but 80 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: that's just me tapping at James. But um, anyway, so 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: I became a police officer, should went on and did 82 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: some things, play some football, and after you got through 83 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: playing football, he started working with al Hayman, the boxer 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: promoter doing some stuff for concerts. And that's when James 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: coming around. And so James go ahead and tell him 86 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: how you hooked up with Sugar and how you and 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: she pretty much started off. What's going on with everybody 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: out there? Um, me and sull U surrive our motorcycles together. Uh, 89 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: maybe he wants to try as his mother wouldn't let 90 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: him too much hang out with us, and uh we 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: snug and got out there a couple of times. Um, 92 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: after school, should win his way. I went my way. 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: I was incarcerated, got out of the penitentiary and and 94 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: uh should came and scooped the brother up and you know, 95 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: looked off of me. And next thing I know, you 96 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: know this, this cat right here was on on our 97 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: planes with him going out of town, you know, doing 98 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: the bud while the super Fess the whole nine, seeing 99 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of ship out there with ship. But then 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: after that we started putting Death Road together. And in 101 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: the process of putting Death Road together, we had to 102 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: get certain people to make Death Row happen, which is 103 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: drem Miss was our first. Uh. Contracts we had to 104 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: get from from Easy and Jerry Heller, So we went 105 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: up to Jerry Heller's office, Ruthless Records, and and we 106 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: got those contracts, and uh, jer and michel A came 107 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: with us, and you know, we had a guy named 108 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Tom Klein from our previous but from shoots previous record company, 109 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: Parnier Records, and we took off from there. Okay, okay, 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: So that's where they that's where they started at, and 111 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: that's how Shill and James our relationship started. So I'll 112 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: jump a little fast forward a little hit and tell 113 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: you how I came around. So I was being a 114 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: copy in the city of Compton and my father and I, uh, 115 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: my father, Reginald Wright Senior, who was over the game 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: um unit and Compton and all of that. KA got 117 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: some mentel that uh some of the cats that was 118 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: working for ship probably mov James himself, but now, but 119 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: some of the cats were planning on taking that nigger 120 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: and tying him up and you know, extorting his family 121 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: for some money or David Kenner or whoever to get 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: give up some money to get him back. And so 123 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: uh we gave him that intail and that immediately, you know, 124 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Sill was like, okay, okay, well that's why one of y'all. 125 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Y'all need to be over here with me. I need 126 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: one of y'all over here to watch my back. Pops 127 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: immediately laughed at he men told him, man, I'm not 128 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: about that. I'm not coming over there to work working 129 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: with those guys. Most of the guys is working for you. 130 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put in jail on on some cases 131 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: right now. But you know me years of age, a youngster, 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: and you know, knowing what Death Roll was about women, 133 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I need to uh, I need 134 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: to be around that and also anyway, so I eventually 135 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: got hired by you know, Shug and started hanging out 136 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: with him and and yeah, so that's how we started 137 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: off with Sugar, and that's how we both got affiliated 138 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: from Ship got affiliated with Ship, and so that's our 139 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: story there. We'll get more detailed to things that we 140 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: deal with him and all of that. So that was 141 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: our relationship with Shell. So the next person that was 142 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: mentioned on To Live and Die the l A song, 143 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: and that's what we call in this episode to Live 144 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: and Die l A shown these are people that y'all 145 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: know that Park mentioned in that song. The next person 146 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: with big neck bomb neck Bomb Neckbone is still a lie. 147 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: It's not in jail. He's one of the few that 148 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: can say that that was mentioned on that song. He's 149 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: uh living out in the I area and raising his kids. 150 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Y'all know Neckbone because he's the father and him and 151 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: raised the lady of Rage. They had a kid together 152 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: while they were stranded on Death Front. And yeah, so 153 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: that's some of my members about Big Neckbone. Uh, James 154 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: Big Neckbone is one of the one of the closest 155 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: homeboys we had in the hood. With the business. Uh, 156 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: you didn't never have to action for nothing twice or 157 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: do nothing twice. He was with it and and phrase guy, 158 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: he's still here with us. You know, we lost a 159 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: lot of brothers. I lost my brother also, but he's 160 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: still here. He's still doing his thing taking care of girls. 161 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: That was the big nack. Yep. Ye. Look, can we 162 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: go back to something real quick. You know, it's a 163 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: lot of mytholics around Death Row, a lot of stuff 164 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: that might have happened, a lot of stuff that probably 165 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: didn't happen. Just to go back a little bit, when 166 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: you guys first started off Death Row and you had 167 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: to go get the artist and you want to got 168 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: Micha LEI and you want to got dre was Eric 169 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: easy to eat right actually in the office when you 170 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: got I was there personally. I went. I was standing 171 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: there with the bodyguard against wall ship going off as 172 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: hand of your business. Uh me and a couple of 173 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: the other little hommies, three little hommies, and our purpose 174 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: was to go talk to Jerry checks that Jerry Oda 175 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: some money for something, okay, whatever, and we need to 176 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: get these contracts. We thought we was gonna catch Easy 177 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: up there and get at them both together. But Easy 178 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: wasn't there, so she'll win in the office and hand 179 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: of this business. He got a check before we left, 180 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: and he had the files permission and dreke, oh wow. 181 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: So they just signed them over that Easy. He gave 182 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: him up. He gave him to Shill. I don't know 183 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: how they signed it or do whatever. I didn't see 184 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: showed Jade okay, he signed it. When we left out 185 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: of roofless. We hopped in the car, shipped in the 186 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: car and we bounched. But she'll got a check and 187 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: she'll got the contract, so she got to check up 188 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: out of it. So he took his artist and got 189 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: to check up out of it. So the stuff in 190 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: the movie was pretty much shall myth with the whole 191 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: thing with Drake Colin easy up there and the dudes 192 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: just jumping on him. That's why we're here, and that's 193 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: why y'all got to tune into this podcast, because you're 194 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna get the reil from here. A lot of them 195 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: from the Horses Mole exactly. A lot of that ship 196 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: is so watered down that that, you know, Dred don't 197 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: show what really happened to them, You know what I'm saying. 198 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: They had an episode in there with Dre was hidden 199 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: death row security would have got his ass whoop touching 200 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: on one of us or anybody that was affiliated with 201 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: the mob, and then everybody would have whipped his ass. 202 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: So a lot of that ship was was was it was. 203 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: It was fake. It was fake. And and but if 204 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: the guys want to tell it like that and make 205 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: it seem like they were the man. No. I remember 206 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Dre at the skate ring. I remember Drake and all 207 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: gold and silver. You know, never was with the business. Never, 208 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't a game banger. He was in a game 209 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: banger man. I took the dude sixty folk Chivy wouldn't 210 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: giving it back to him. I should And the only 211 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: thing he said to me is how you like to ride? 212 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: I'm digging it. I'm having to ball hitting switches all 213 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: over the place. And man, another myth that that's out 214 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: there the talk about because he even touched on Easy. 215 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Everybody think Easy was this big high roller dealing with 216 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: cocaine and all of that. All Easy did was he 217 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: was a marijuana seller and y'all need it. If y'a 218 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: don't want to listen to me, go listen to Alonzo Wins. 219 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: He did a show what was on my YouTube channel 220 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: called bomb First, and he told it. He told the 221 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: story on that. He said all Easy was he knew 222 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: how to save money. He was real feudal with his money, 223 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: but he was the weed connect. He had a good 224 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: weed connect and he was selling the weed to all 225 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: of the different homies and stuff like that. So that's 226 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: all that Easy was as well. So those proceeds from 227 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: the weed sales did go on to formulate ruthless records 228 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: later on there exactly, but said he was good with 229 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: his money, was saving his money. So so you know, 230 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: let me go back now we're talking about Easy and 231 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: everything we would get back to the homies and the song, right, 232 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: But going back to Easy now legendary do He did 233 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff West Coast music. He mean, you know, 234 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: Death for a Wood. There was very pivotal record companies 235 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: for the West Coast. Did you ever, guys, did you 236 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: guys ever run across Easy in the streets anything like that? Yeah, well, 237 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: it used to be this this amateur show on Sunset 238 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: and me and Sugar used to go there and we 239 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: used to see Easy there. That's when I knew it 240 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: was something wrong with Easy. But we ran across him 241 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: at the bubb Wise super Fast in the backstage, I 242 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: got a homeboy named Kenny tub Rest in peace. Uh 243 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: walked up joint, tapped his pockets. Easy moved his hand. 244 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: He tapped his pocket, told him, don't move, took his money. 245 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: Next day he went and brought him up callac. He 246 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: robbed Easy, Well, let's let's go back, not to cook 247 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: you off. You said, that's when you'll realized something wrong 248 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: with Easy. What do you mean you think he knew 249 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: when he when he when he had because he had 250 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: on two T shirts to sweatshirts and a T shirt 251 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: and he just didn't look right at that time. Well 252 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: that's you know, and that's a whole another story right there, 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, just we're easy because that's the first time 254 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: ever I think somebody kicking HIV and don't know, baby 255 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Mama's have it. Don't nobody else have it. But that's 256 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: a whole different story just going back. So as far 257 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: as him, it just wouldn't never no conflict or nothing 258 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: like that. He had no goons and nobody would have 259 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: well he's I mean, who got Drey Limb yellow. I 260 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: mean that's all I ever seen them with. I'm from Compton, 261 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: and those dudes wouldn't game bankers. Them dudes made a 262 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: lot of money offer, you know, for traying being crypts, 263 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't factors in Compton. They never was. They 264 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: never was crypt just like that movie see before, that's 265 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: all them dudes was. And Easy was the only one 266 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: that had ties in Kelly Park, which is a crypt 267 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: neighborhood in Compton. But but Dre and the rest they 268 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: wasn't there, wasn't no, they would not there doing what 269 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: we was doing. We never ran into him and we 270 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: used to get into it all the time. So y'all 271 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: was pretty much just the wolves out there. Y'all, the 272 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: wolves are death from so y'all the reason everybody was 273 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: scared petro ye now y'all, Okay, you know when we 274 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: had firm here records, it was common, it was cool. 275 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: But then when my brother bunch got out of the penitentiary, 276 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: he hired some more than homies from the penitentiary as 277 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: they was getting out. So to hear, you got ten 278 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: guys from out of the penitentiary. They work out together 279 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: every day, and what bunch You had some twenties ones, 280 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: but the rest of them was exactly so you had 281 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: these guys and then now sheould wants this and want 282 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: to portray that. So that's where all that came from. 283 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: When when heavy d and all of them was seeing 284 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: should they've seen all these bloods behind it? Who was 285 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,479 Speaker 1: this dude squad? And that's all they used to say, 286 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: and with the most second guess and Sugar when no 287 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: more talking back to Shugar, she pretty much did what 288 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to because he had nothing but goons. Wow. 289 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: So so let me tell you this, let me ask 290 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: you this, and I promise we're not gonna keep dragging 291 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: along everything. But this is the stuff that people want 292 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: to hear and there's so many stories, you know what 293 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean, It's just so much. This is what you 294 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: guys will get to tune into every week just to 295 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: hear the real stories from the horse's mouth, not no 296 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: water down stuff, not them on another show where they 297 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: just cutting off pieces of what they want to hear 298 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: to say, it's a fan fair. This is from these 299 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: guys mouth from their life. You know what I mean? 300 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: You know, so subscribe, leave a comment, let us know 301 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: what you think is. This is what's gonna be going 302 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: down every week. Going back to this, this whole thing 303 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: with Should, so Should. Did you notice a gradual change 304 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: in him from him having the most because you figured, 305 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: not only does he have one of the most fear 306 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: game in company, now he got the police with him too. 307 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: So did you guys noticed exchange in his demeanor? I 308 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: do this to change. When it first started, when we 309 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: was with Fernhill and Chill went to death Row, Sheill 310 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: was wearing brown suits, green suits, whatever color it wasn't red. 311 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: And then when we got the bunch ofies the ju 312 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: jus to have rhins, then okay, I got more than 313 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: a mile James now and I'm gonna step my game up. 314 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: So now he's taking pictures. Now he's with the jury 315 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: and all of this ship. The big said, God, Sheil 316 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: never did that. He never did that until all of 317 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: these guys came. And when when everybody came, Sheill pretty 318 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: much felt like he was on top of the world 319 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: and everything about shook. His whole demeanor and everything changed. 320 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: The way he talked to people, all that change, and 321 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: it kind of ticked me off because he changed like that, 322 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: and that was one of our biggest reason and footballer 323 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: now and just me bagging away from me because he 324 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: turned into a total different person. Yeah, it's it's kind 325 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: of a sad thing, you know, and I um talk 326 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: about that all the time, you know, just with my 327 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: buddies and everything on how you had a company that 328 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: just made millions of dollars so quick, you know, black 329 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: owned company, you know, make millions of dollars and really, 330 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: you know, instead of just coming and perpetuating the negativity, 331 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: he could have really did some positives and changed a 332 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: lot of people's lives. You know. It was it was 333 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: so many things that positive that he did, but it 334 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: wasn't enough. Like Christmas, Eastern Mother Day, that's cool, but 335 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: you worth over five hundred and sixty five million dollars 336 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: at one point. And then here you are, you you 337 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: turning the record company into a game banging session. Now 338 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about murder. Now we're talking about doing by 339 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: any mean its necessary to the person if anybody say no. 340 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: So now that change. Now you've got people that man, 341 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just got out of prison and she was happening. 342 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Why the whole staff was on PA and he was 343 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: manipulating and playing everybody against each other. That was the 344 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: main problem. He would be like, well if you do this, 345 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: or do this, or do this to most of the homies. 346 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: That and we'll get into later that when they started 347 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: beefing and dying. Behind was all behind the manipulation of 348 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: him playing everybody against each other. When we get into 349 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: the heron beef with George George Wells and all that 350 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: is all behind a motherfucking car where he tricked or 351 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: trying to convince heron and going and collecting this car. 352 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: How Big Rock who's in prison right now? That was 353 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: on the song. I think that he was put in 354 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: jail because he wouldn't turn over a car, which is untrue. 355 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: You know everything that you acting, it goes back to this. 356 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: You got fifteen penitenty motherfucker's with you. How is you 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: able to control thud cast them been to jail for 358 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: murder and everything else there've been to jail for, I mean, 359 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: slapping their mama, And how do you control that? And 360 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: that's one thing I give Shild. Shild took us and 361 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: and pretty much like a some some promising and then 362 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the day we all wind back 363 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood or in the grave or in prison. 364 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: And he did that and and you know a lot 365 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: of people say, well that's your fault. Damn show is it? 366 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: Damn show is But I mean he made his situation 367 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: happen to where, man, I can't fail if I got 368 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: all these guys on my tip and then I'm pan 369 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: them because everybody on Death Road never had a job, 370 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: none of them. So to actually see a check and 371 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: not rob nobody for it, that's what killed the whole game, 372 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So everybody by enemies necessary, 373 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my money, And that's what changed everything. 374 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: Everything flipped at that point. And people don't understand the 375 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: guy is gifted in a lot of ways, but at 376 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: the end of the day. Did nobody come out of 377 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: it a winner? Nobody? No, none of us? So none 378 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: of us? Wow, So let me ask you guys this. 379 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: Then I go back and then we go back to 380 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: Living Die in l A. That's the name of the show, 381 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: just name of the episode today. Do you guys at 382 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: every point, at any point, do you guys think should 383 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: was kind of scared a little bit? Is that why 384 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: he started with the trigger ration and everything? People against 385 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: each other? I got you on that one. When she 386 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: realized that he was dealing with some real cutthought, straight 387 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: up bloods. That was was undercover. I need this and 388 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: you better get it. And he didn't have no choice 389 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: but to do it. She'll tried to find a way 390 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: like myself, Like myself, he tried to find a way 391 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: to to cut you out the circle. So he was 392 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: scared a lot of times. A lot of times. Yeah, 393 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: he was scared because and that's and what do you 394 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? As well? I'll try 395 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: to say he would play the money and that's when 396 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: he was going offer this guy this amount of money 397 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: to go and deal and go and deal with this, 398 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: and you know, he would dangle the money in front 399 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: of another person or this person that situation. He played it, 400 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I said, and watched it. I said, and watch it. 401 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, he was. He was afraid, you know. And 402 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: he and I had got so close to where he 403 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: he got a name that that that he used to 404 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: say call him, and that name was stunt Dummies. He's 405 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: telling me what it was in jail. Get the stunt 406 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: at me to do this. It stunted on me to 407 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: do that. That's he started looking looking at people. Wow. 408 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: So it was pretty much just a thing. So, and 409 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: just to get this straight, everybody grew up together. Yeah, 410 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: all of all of us were. My house was was 411 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: the the station. My house was every morning like clockwork. Uh, 412 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: walking to school together, walking home from school together, Uh, sleeping, 413 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: they showered, everything My house was was was home base 414 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: for many years, many years. Wow. So y'all was like, um, 415 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: so I just picture this man, and I think that's 416 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. And that's what I was seeing earlier 417 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: when we was kind of off you know, off camera, 418 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: you know, off the show, off the air. Kind of 419 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: a gang ain't necessarily a bad thing. A gang is 420 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: a collective of people that grew up together. So at 421 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: one time, like you said, Joe was riding dirt bikes, 422 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: playing football, doing games, just normal kids, you know. And 423 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: let me interject there. I don't want to come off 424 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: because what with a lot of this negative stuff that 425 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Now, I can tell you some good 426 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: stories as well. I can tell you about sitting on 427 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: the fifth yard line yard line at a Super Bowl game. 428 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: I can tell you a boy being laying in the 429 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: fourth season hotel. I can tell you about him sending 430 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: my mother some roses just because I can tell you, you 431 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: you know, uh, little things that he did for a 432 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: bunch of and their mother are out little things, you 433 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: know that, But you know he has done. It's some 434 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: good that's some bad with it that I experienced and 435 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: I saw, you know what we need to do. Let's 436 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: go back and play that Live and Die record a 437 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: little bit for the folks out there. We can play 438 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: the homies name on we hold on one second. It's 439 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicles digital soapbox. Here he deals right here 440 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: are we back? Now We'll start from the top. Tupac 441 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: said they've got some hash, took the stairs, left the 442 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: wrist for me, nick Bone Tree, ear rum punch, Bountrey 443 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: to Big Rock, got nabis ones for you. We go 444 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: back from the top. We already talked about nick Bone, right, 445 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: we need to go into trade now, alright, we'll go 446 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: to Tray. I'll start off with Tray tray Vonn Lane, 447 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: we call him. I called him, She'll called him Youngster. 448 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: That's what we called him. He's the guy that's known 449 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: mainly for ah, some will say whispering into tupac ear 450 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: that made him go and jump on the Orlando Anderson. 451 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: He's also known for um uh for getting into the occation, 452 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: the altercation at the Lakewood Mall who they attempted to 453 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: take his uh his death row chain and what led 454 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: into the incident at the MGM. Um. So that's what 455 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: we know tray Vonn Lane for already. So you know 456 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: what since y'all got the show, now that's what I said. 457 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: This is you guys platform where y'all tell the stories 458 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: where we go kill and stuff. Just the rumors from 459 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: the people that was there. It's a lot of speculations. 460 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: So Trey actually kept the change kept. They didn't get 461 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: the change from them. They not get the change because 462 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: I heard that you know those different things that you 463 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: understand that they dollar Richard if he'd got it, and 464 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: they hadn't really been talking about that, so so that 465 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: if he would have got the change, that wasn't the rumors. 466 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: So that so they really had a ten thousand dollar 467 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: bounty on the death Road change. Yeah, who was that? 468 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: That was bad boys. He wanted to use it and 469 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: put it in a in a video. And you know 470 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't don't even understand why Puffy 471 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: on the shotline. Right now, I'm gonna put you up 472 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: on something. Puffy was hanging in Compton Country, was hanging 473 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: on Burish or California, at keep you D's house, and 474 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Puffy would come and my my daughter's mama is from 475 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: south Side, so Pam hung out with him and kicked 476 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: it with him and let me know that they was there, 477 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: and and Puffy was putting it out there and talking 478 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: about the neighborhood and this and that. But when the 479 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: homies went through there, they were gone. So punchy, I mean, 480 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: Puffy pretty much played a role like Shug. He hired 481 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: the South Side Cribs to protect him, knowing that they 482 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: are rivals, paying them a little something some same situation 483 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: should have had over their death row. But Puffy wanted 484 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: certain things done because of Shugar to prove to Shugar 485 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: that he wasn't this bitch ass and they go or whatever. 486 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: But when the ship got hot, Puffy disappeared. It's too 487 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: late for that. It was too late for that. So yeah, 488 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: Puffy played. He played a big part of and and 489 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: and what with Puffy though? And why it hurts us 490 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: so much? And she grew up with us, played in 491 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: the sandbox with us. He knows our mama's we know 492 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: his mama exactly what Puffy They were just niggas that 493 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: when he came in l A. He played what He 494 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: didn't go to school with him. He don't have no 495 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: tides with him, He didn't have They didn't know his family, 496 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: he didn't know their family. And so it hurts a 497 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: little bit more. People that's that's close with you hurt 498 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: you more than a person that has distance from you. 499 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: And so wow, so we got this classic Tupox song, 500 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, and and that's the thing about music. All 501 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: these guys are pretty much mortalized now because this is 502 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna be one thing about Tupos music. It's gonna be 503 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: here twenty years from now because he just had you know, 504 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a twenty thirty years from now. 505 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: So these guys names gonna be mortalized too. So we 506 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: talked about neck bone, We talked about three. We got 507 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: the next one here on Big Haron Goadie, Mirv James 508 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: calls them super Flyer, Yeah, superflup. Uh. Smokey Robber was 509 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: the pretty pret I mean constantly in and out of prison. Uh. 510 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: He had them hands, he could fight. He I mean, 511 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: he was one of the homies that was very carismatic 512 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: and and just with the business. And you know, the 513 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: way he died was you know, it was sad because 514 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: this is our people. This is our people killing him, 515 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And and he didn't deserve that, 516 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: and the way things happened. I don't want to I 517 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: don't want to sound wrong, but I gotta keep in 518 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: one honey. Hard Run was a very big factor in 519 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: our in our neighborhood mob and lew this part. Uh. 520 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: He represented the penitentiary like like the Kings do. And 521 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: he just didn't deserve to die the way he died. 522 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: You know, he was shot twenty sometimes at a stoplight 523 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: in in the in the neighborhood and Compton and Man 524 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: it was he shouldn't have he shouldn't have went out 525 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: like that. He was, he was solid. The question has 526 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: always asked on me when what was heron from? Was 527 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: the louds a mob? And I want James to answer 528 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: that Ron wasna be And and people get a twisted 529 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: because at one point the mob and Luters it was 530 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: Luters Park mob. And and if you go to prison, 531 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: whether mob James or not, I was lout as park 532 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's that's the mothership, that's 533 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: that's the whole connect. So when this situation happened and 534 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: broke from that, Haron was still saying them gonna be 535 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: And I know he had a m ob peaky rainy 536 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: and the dudes that were from Louis didn't wear MLB 537 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: pinky ranking Oh wow. So you know, going back to 538 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: Lewis Parker, Mom, I got cousins this from. I don't 539 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: gang bang, but I got cousins from over there. Crawford 540 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Wilkerson better known as high Sea from Tree Top Poker, 541 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: like my brother Tony Lane, good friend of mine. You know, 542 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: all these friends of mine, you know what I mean? 543 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: So I never you know, I came doing you know, 544 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: what he's doing a little bit better, man, Thank god, man, 545 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: he doing better. You know, he was sick and you know, 546 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, I when I saw him in his hospital, 547 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: bid man for those for the people out there. We're 548 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: talking about Tony Lane, Black Tune, Sheffer Lane Records. You 549 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: might know him as the man behind Sugar Free, you know, 550 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Big Marsburg, Resident Peace and many other records. You know, 551 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, just texting on that. It's a lot of 552 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: talent comping man, a whole lot of challenge. If it 553 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: wasn't sports, it was it was the music. Me and 554 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: matter Ryan used to hang over there on Cherry I 555 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: believe where uh, DJ Quick you should spend his make 556 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: his little seats. Man grew up to be something and 557 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: and he took his music to a different level. And 558 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: DJ Quick is known all over the world now. And 559 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: but I remember when he was at Yarster, you know 560 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We used to hang over there, you know, 561 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: telling that little ship. And the guy grew up into 562 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: the music business and he made some money out of it. 563 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: So it's it's a lot of talent out there. Yes, 564 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: it's a whole lot of talent, you know. And then 565 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, up next. The next man the two Bucks 566 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: said in this song was bunch bunty. I can't talk 567 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: on it. All of this A brother that had a 568 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: lot of respect for that I love like a brother. 569 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: But I let his real brother talk about him. I was, 570 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: I was doing the house. Uh, bunch of is my brother. 571 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: Uh a year younger than me. Uh he was in 572 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: the penitential when all this stuff got started, and Uh, 573 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I told him, don't worry about nothing. I got a 574 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: spot for you when you come home. He came home. 575 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: I introduced a bunch of the Sugar. Bunch of started 576 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: working with Sugar. I was scared to fly, and a 577 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: bunch of started going out of time with Sugar, and 578 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: him and Chug got real close and became good friends. 579 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: And right now today I regret. I regret the fact 580 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: that I broke my brother into this or introduced him 581 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: to it. But he got killed at the at the 582 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: gas station in the neighborhood by Death Row members. And 583 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: it's hard talking about him. But my brother was, he was, 584 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: he was siding, he was he was solid, he was 585 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: one hunted. Uh. He became Shugar number one, and UH 586 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: he wouldn't letting nothing happen to sugar. It wasn't going 587 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: down on his watch. And and I the most stuff 588 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: to respect of most respect for my brother, and I 589 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: missed him. Rest from peace bunch, but real, oh wow, yeah, 590 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: I know that's got to be a sad situation. But 591 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: like we said, you know, to live and die in 592 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: that way, you know, you know, he's going through some 593 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: of the positive stuff. They had some of the coldest 594 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: music ever hit the music industry. It was almost like 595 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: the Motown hit, you know what I mean. It was 596 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: just the impact that had and everybody, you know what 597 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, would happened, you know, when the chronic dropped 598 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: and you know, just all that just you know, good 599 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: music everybody, you know, from all the careers. There was 600 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: lunch like you know, Snoop Dogg is going on twenty 601 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: some years now, you know what I mean. Just the 602 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: classic albums that was dropped over there. You know they're glad, 603 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: you know cutting its twenty five five years, you know, 604 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: from Tupac to the Dog Pound, Snoop Dogge, you know, 605 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: all this just beautiful music being made. Man, and you 606 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: know they got more to lives on records now. So 607 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: you know the thing is that's the dutiful thing about music. 608 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's somebody over in Germany right now or 609 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: Japan now that's listening. And they knew all those names, 610 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: and they want to hear these stories like you know, 611 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: who was bountery, you know who was here round? Who 612 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: was neckbone? All of these guys, you know what I mean. 613 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: And that's what we're here for, you know. And at 614 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, guys, that's not just gangstert 615 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: but they meant exactly. You know, at the end of 616 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: the day, everybody's a man. You know, they got families 617 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: and everything. They talk to them. They didn't want to 618 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: be a gangsters. They were dealt that hand and dealt 619 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: with that. But it's not it's that's that's not what 620 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: it's about. You know, you're growing up in the neighborhood 621 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: and you got all these guys together and everybody pretty 622 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: much robbing people to eat and and and these dudes 623 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: doing this. My brother and all every other guy was 624 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: on death row was just excited to get a check 625 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: and didn't have to get out of prison and and 626 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: rob to feed their kids or to get them new 627 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: sneakers and keep up with the wear. So it was 628 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: it was just all about just like death Row brunt, 629 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: something new to everybody that was there, because ain't nobody 630 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: that was on death Row ever been out of Compton, 631 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: like flying on planes going to New York and ship, 632 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: so that ship made him feel good. We ain't gotta 633 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: get out here and do this. I got a chance 634 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: to get off for role. Excuse me. So that's what 635 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: it was about. It was they men, but at that 636 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: time we was young and and and we was full 637 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: of it, and we was getting paid to do what 638 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: we was doing in the neighborhood, just hotels and and 639 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: and getting at them that way. And that was the 640 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: cold part about it. People just don't understand. This is 641 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: from the street side, not from around the corner or whatever. 642 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: But every guy there was starving and did what they 643 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: had to do to get a check, whatever it took 644 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: to get a check, and to stay that's the cold part, 645 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: to stay on death Row, not to say here or 646 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: check because some catch we went to death Row. Gotta 647 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: check four hundred dollars. Man, I'm going back to my 648 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 1: what I was doing. And they made more money robbing people, 649 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: but then some made eight hundreds, some made twelve hunted 650 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: and man, I'm gonna sit here for that check. So 651 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: so some of the dude was getting four hundred dollars 652 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: a week and some of them was getting twelve hundred 653 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: dollars a week. Yeah, and when we're talking about the nineties. 654 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: But the point is he would have that when someone 655 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: was getting more and something was getting left, and and 656 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: and and he did that purpoctly to divide and conquer 657 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: to you know, to make me feel smaller than the 658 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: next man. And you don't do people like that. When 659 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: they all ride. It was all on the plane, set 660 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: next to each other and pretty much doing the same thing, 661 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: showing everybody they damn check so down they see a 662 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: bunch of getting thirty five hundred dollars. Damn why a 663 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: bunch of getting thirty And we're doing the same thing. 664 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: So I got nine hundred dollars, you got thirty hullars. 665 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: So now they now he has turned us against each other. 666 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: Now we're fighting each other because his check is bigger. 667 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, let me ask you this before we go 668 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: over to the next guy. Wasn't there every any time 669 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: like when you was there, because I'm pretty sure you was. 670 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: You was there with him pretty much from the beginning. James. Yeah, 671 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: y'all probably learned enough about the music industry where y'all 672 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: could have probably when it started, y'all on coming, I'm 673 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: pretty sure you'll had all the context. And that was 674 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: another problem that that should have had. A couple of 675 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: the homies was was learning the music business and was 676 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: getting close to some of his contacts and whatnot. Uh 677 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: Big Jake we talked about another day, was was was 678 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: learning the business well to do his own thing. My 679 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,479 Speaker 1: brother Buntrey had how many groups you have one too? Yeah, 680 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: but she was supposed to. He had always think, uh, 681 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: get those records and find out what they're supposed to 682 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: been called get old records? Was what do you told? 683 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: Bunchy was his record label. But he had Hub and 684 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, he was managing O F TV and stuff 685 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: like that. But these the people you heard, uh, but 686 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: they never got a shot. Why didn't they? You know? 687 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: Kind of the same with Jake people. This is what 688 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, this is a story that can go. 689 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: I can go for Yeah, we can go. I can 690 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: tell you. You know, I remember when he had Big 691 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: Jake thinking he was managing Quicken and second in the 692 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: nine we want the Profile records to talk to him 693 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: about some money that was old too quick, and the 694 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: executive said, well, I talked to Jake. Jake walks out 695 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: the room. What do you mean he talk to Jake 696 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: Jake ain't nobody who you know, the belittle man. As 697 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: soon as he leaves the record, you know, leads the 698 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: location my situation. I did do what you said. I 699 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: started to run the company and i'd be you know, 700 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: I ran the company from nineties seven to two thousand 701 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: and two. But as soon as he come home. The 702 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: reason why I had to get all of there, because 703 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: where's my role now? You know? Uh, Jimmy ivy and 704 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 1: just saying okay, sending Reggie over, we're getting it worked out, 705 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: sending Reggie over. No, I don't need Reggie. I'm home now. 706 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: You know, you don't need to talk to Reggie. And 707 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: so my point is what James was saying. He didn't 708 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: like that. So I took my talents to other places. 709 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: Well you know what, Yeah, let's talk about Jimmy yav 710 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: being real quick before you go on to the last one. 711 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy vin seemed like he pretty much gave him the 712 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: keys to the kingdom. When you're making hits, you're gonna 713 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: do that. Uh, the guy in Cleveland when he loved 714 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: Lebron James, right, But as soon as Lebron James left, 715 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: what he started saying talking about it, talking about him, 716 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 1: hated him. It was mad came back he loved him. 717 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: So my point is, as long as you're making people money, 718 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: they act like they love you. They let you do 719 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: what you want. But at a point when she was 720 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: in jail, he was the first one to cut off 721 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: his water. Sugar was when Tupac was alive and Snoop 722 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: was happy and all that a million and a half 723 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: dollars monthly a month, sure goes to jail. Tupac no 724 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: long as within us, Snoop, Snoop want to leave. Dre's gone. 725 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: We don't no longer need you. We're gonna take this 726 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: love the contract because you was in jail. Now that uh, 727 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: we don't want you. We don't want your record company 728 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: no more. But we still do business with you. But 729 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: we pick what we want to do with you. And 730 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: all they picked was what two puck albums? Okay, what 731 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: was this strict from ninety seven on, everybody in the 732 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: scope just a two puck stuff. So it's it's business 733 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: so you know what we go back to that. Now, 734 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: let's go back to Drey real quick. You know the 735 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: possibly arguably the greatest rap producers, not just rap producer, 736 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: but produce a pere in the history of music. How 737 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: do you know? How do you let him go? How 738 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: do you not fix that situation? She figured he used 739 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: him enough, but shouldn't think Dre was gonna come back. Man, 740 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 1: you know this guy's telling them, this guy just made 741 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: you a lot of money, and then he let him go. 742 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: See that should problem he think before at a time 743 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: and he knew he messed like when he when he 744 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: went he in jail. Now should know that man don't 745 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: owe you no money. That man left broke. Now you're 746 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: gonna go up here and say he owed me money 747 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: and you get into an altercation. This was his This 748 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: his theme the whole time. So Dre say, holding his nuts, 749 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't owe you nothing, talk to about people. I 750 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: don't owe you nothing. I ain't giving you nothing. And 751 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: that was what should think. Should figure that everybody know 752 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: him a bully. So all I gotta do is tell 753 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: you I want the womb like Van their lies and 754 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: everybody else that I want this, And they're gonna give 755 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: it to you, and most of them was, but Drey 756 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: when giving him nothing. Because Drey knew he didn't know ship, 757 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: Dre walked away with zero zero dollars of death row 758 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: to make sure he was just zero dollar. I swear 759 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: to God, the man made the best choice he ever 760 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: did in his life, because he already knew when he 761 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: was finning getting into now now that I ain't got 762 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: a worry about getting killed out of here. I ain't 763 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: got a worry about no death road security beating me up, 764 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: slapping on me. I ain't got a worry about should 765 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: believe me. So the day he left there bro the 766 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: day he went home, that's when he first got some 767 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: good sleep because I ain't gotta deal with you. And 768 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: I got a different take on that. I mean, I 769 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: hear what what James said, but I do have a 770 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: different take. Shill didn't want Dre to leave. Dre wanted 771 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: to leave because he found out he was working on 772 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: his baby mama, and that's why Drey insisted on leaving. 773 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: But Sill did not want Dre to leave. But he 774 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: didn't know how to be humble enough to make that 775 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: situation work. Now, Park was an instigator on it, and 776 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: but Park didn't know the whole story. So let me 777 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: ask you this. Now, we got a business, this podcast 778 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: blew up and making millions of dollars here, would you 779 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: risk that all about looking at somebody else's wife As 780 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: a man. You don't do that stuff no way. You know. 781 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Violation. I don't even speak 782 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: to nobody's wanting your violation. And we ain't making money together. 783 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: Exactly as long as I know you and you know me, 784 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: and you exactly this is regularly do it off the streets. 785 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: I have no words to say to you like this. 786 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: We're talking about manly principles now, then we talk about 787 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: the music. And exactly here you have a man that 788 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: never broke bread with you, but he deal with you 789 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: because it's about money. Now, need to see something that 790 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: you have, something that you got that he won't. That's 791 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: all it was about what should It's what we was 792 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. I'm talking to a chick. He like 793 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: damn West said, man, don't take it to the room. 794 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: Next thing you know, she'll go over there talking to 795 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: it and told her something. I don't know what he 796 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: told her from this day on, but she she left 797 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: with him. He must have told her I'm the one 798 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: with the money, and will they just bean security or whatever, 799 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: and and left with him. That's the type of citty 800 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: due So Shugar is the type of guy that he 801 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: ain't got no friends. He gonna use any and everything 802 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: and everybody. Would you agree with me? Magether is him first? 803 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: Everybody else second? Thank you? Wow? Yeah, he's he's real deep. Wow. 804 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy. So we gotta get to the last one 805 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: on the list. Last one make the song Big Rock. 806 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: Big Rock got not rockets in jail. He's he's on 807 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: one of the California laws, the flaws. He went to 808 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 1: jail for possession of a gun and got struck out 809 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: and doing twenty five life. Rock was a good dude. 810 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: I love the fight. Uh we'll ball up his fist. 811 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: I'll tell a story about Big Rock right quick. One 812 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: of the homies h from HollyHood named Donzelli. He uh 813 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: he got cart uh selling some some all eyes on 814 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: the album on a cassette up at this uh weed 815 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: spot in in Compater that was a car wash and 816 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: a sound place called Untouchable Sounds on the launder and 817 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: uh Washington. But everybody in the Launder in Atlantic, and 818 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: so some of the homies was up there holding the 819 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: music being played all eyes on me before it was released. 820 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: And well, of course they found out that don Zelli, 821 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: who was quick bodyguard, uh, dropped it off and left 822 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: it up there. So, you know, back then in the nineties, 823 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: it was taboo for your music to get released prior 824 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 1: to the street date. It was like taboo. And so 825 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: they all brought him in the office and took him 826 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: up in shed office at Candal Studio, and she was like, 827 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, because he's a part Rule, he's a he's 828 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: one of the homies. He was like, you gotta take 829 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: a favor with one of the homies. You gotta take 830 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 1: a favorite with somebody in there. So, as I remember, 831 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: it was Rock Trade Bountry, uh and a couple other 832 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: the homies in there, and and so she was like, 833 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: you know who you want to take a favorite and 834 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: so Rock. So Donzelli was sizing up everybody looking around, 835 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: and so Rock, who's a small dude, short, you know 836 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,919 Speaker 1: in stature, He's just like Funk that I'll take the face. 837 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 1: And he just went in and bombed on down delly 838 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: right quick. That was the type of dude that Rock was. 839 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: But I let, I mean, I had Rock. I had 840 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: the privilege of running the streets with him. Uh in 841 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 1: the all kind of things with Rock Chisholm. Rock chishom 842 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: was one of the solids that that walk Compton and 843 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: everybody know, if you mintioned a Chisholm, the first name 844 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna say is Rock because he was active and 845 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: he was ready. I got a story about Rock and 846 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: what made me just laugh, like mug shuld went to 847 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: jail when she told everybody to take their cards to 848 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 1: the office and park them. Rock said this, nigga must 849 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 1: be crazy. Rock went downtown and got a pink slip 850 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: made to the car and sold the car. Chugon was mad. 851 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: He went to jail after that, right uh yeah, yeah yeah. 852 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: For the second time. Rock kind of felt that that 853 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: he was set up or whatever. But Rock was the 854 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: only one that said, nigga, fuck you, and I ain't 855 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: giving up my card. What I'm gonna do while you 856 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: and jail. So he did his thing and and and 857 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: that's the one hunting. That's that's like one hunt. You 858 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Rock Chisholm solid is all our dudes. 859 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: And and man, big up. You can't wait till you 860 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: come home? And rock Rock is one that was wasn't 861 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: from either loaders of the mob that was mentioned that 862 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: he was from the um LM Street Paru, which is 863 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: half a block half a mile away from where they 864 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 1: grew up at where we grew up at. Alright, alright, 865 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: so I guess we're closing it down for the night 866 00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: right now. Nice episode right there. Yeah, yeah, please tune in, 867 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: you guys, and you guys CAx us every week every Tuesday, 868 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: every Thursday, every Thursday on the Soapbox Network. Yeah. We 869 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 1: get some good feedback on this and get a lot 870 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: of questions. A lot of questions can be asked because 871 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: like being on his show, a lot of people, well 872 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: ask my this and that. So I believe a lot 873 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: of people are gonna ask questions about Okay, they say this, 874 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: what happened with that? So I think this is gonna 875 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: go leaking for a second. Yeah, exactly, And you hear 876 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: that you heard it out the man's mouth. You guys, 877 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: have any questions, hit him up on the Instagram Pigs 878 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: against the Chronicles that as well. If you got any 879 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: ideals for topics you want us to touch on we 880 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: open ideals as well for that and it's a gainst 881 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: Chronicles Peace