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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck Good Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello, everyone, welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>program help I Suck at Dating. I'm Jared Haven in

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<v Speaker 1>studio recording from Burbank, California. I am joined via Skype

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<v Speaker 1>from about let's say, three thousand miles away by the roughly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a cross country well in another country. But the beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful Vanessa Grimle Da Vanessa. How are you? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I love how you ruled your RS so that means

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<v Speaker 1>you can I can probably teach you French and Italian

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<v Speaker 1>really well. And you blend in really amazingly. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>my overall theme in life is just to blend in easily. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a great show for you coming up. We

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<v Speaker 1>have Amanda stan who's going to be in studio. You

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<v Speaker 1>all know her from her time on the Bachelor. We're

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<v Speaker 1>very good friends with her. She's talking about her brand

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<v Speaker 1>new book that just hit bookshelves called Now Accepting Roses,

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<v Speaker 1>Finding Myself while searching for the One and other lessons

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<v Speaker 1>I learned from The Bachelor. I read it over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited to talk to her about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>have many questions. We also have Patty Stanger from Millionaire Matchmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>who will be on the line in a little while

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a new show that she was involved in.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, not a new show, a new movie, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>starring one of my favorite actresses of all time. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that later, uh in the show. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a very special announcement here on Help I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck at Dating. By the way, Dean is not here today.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still in Egypt, I think, looking at pyramids. And no,

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<v Speaker 1>he did not drive the van there. But we have

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<v Speaker 1>a very important message announcement, uh, something that we are

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<v Speaker 1>very excited to talk about on the podcast today. It

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<v Speaker 1>only comes once a year and it's the best time

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. It is Vanessa Grimaldi's birthday. Birthday. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you were going to talk about the other important

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we're mentioning today too, because there's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>we're celebrating as well. We are, but this takes your birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>takes precedent. The other thing that Vanessa was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>is today marks the one hundredth episode of Help I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck At Dating? And I Heart Radio podcast. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>the only sounder you have? Pretty much? I got that

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<v Speaker 1>or this one that's not as fun, but Dean's not here,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dean Dean hosted the first one. I know he's solo,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna celebrate when he gets back, because it

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<v Speaker 1>really would be ridiculous just for Vanessa to celebrate the

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<v Speaker 1>one episode of a podcast that we didn't start. But Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your birthday. I know that I'm not really supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about women's age, but we're all friends here,

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<v Speaker 1>So how old are you turning? Two? So young you

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at them over twenty and I'm not joking

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<v Speaker 1>about four. I don't look older than twenty four. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you look like a woman in her mid to

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<v Speaker 1>late I'm not going any higher than that. Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take twenty six. I mean, listen, I definitely when my

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<v Speaker 1>birthday hit this year, I totally forgot was my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Today was So it's also the Jewish New Year for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that's celebrating Rasha Shanna, Happy New Year, Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend is Jewish, so we went to the synagogue

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<v Speaker 1>today and it was my first time at the synagogue,

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<v Speaker 1>and what the rabbi was saying was resonated so much

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<v Speaker 1>with me and I guess a message that I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to hear on my birthday, and he basically was staying

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<v Speaker 1>for the new year to focus on three things. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the three things is forgiveness, learning how to forgive,

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<v Speaker 1>forgive yourself, and learning how to not hold grudges because

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<v Speaker 1>life is too short. And it was so funny because

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<v Speaker 1>I just posted a picture on Instagram, UM yesterday saying

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that I do that I've done that

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<v Speaker 1>I was ashamed of and then I have forgiven myself

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<v Speaker 1>for in the last year and things that you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm not perfect, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be perfect, but it's things that I've learned and I've

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<v Speaker 1>grown from and um, so that resonated with me. And

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<v Speaker 1>number two was too. And this goes out to Mark

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<v Speaker 1>and Easton and Tori and Amy, the people that to

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<v Speaker 1>show humanity, so to ask questions that people who you

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<v Speaker 1>work with, who are not directly related to your job,

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<v Speaker 1>who might be working and cleaning in the studio, who

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<v Speaker 1>might be doing the things on the back end that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't getting the recognition that they deserve, show humanity towards

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<v Speaker 1>those people. So huge thank you to the producers, Mark Easton,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy the backer of this podcast really backbone. UM, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you guys, and number three was, Um, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember number three? Well, why are you thinking to number three?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get a round of applause everybody who's in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys really are the hard working crew of this

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<v Speaker 1>and Vanessa myself indeed, just we we ramble, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about nonsense, and you guys just make us look better.

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<v Speaker 1>So we really appreciate what we are richer for knowing

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, because it's really been wonderful getting to know

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<v Speaker 1>all of the people on these podcasts. Really a fair point, Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you think of number three yet? Oh? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>number three? And I think this we can all resonate with.

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<v Speaker 1>This is UM to not get distracted by the noise,

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<v Speaker 1>not to get to make sure that you stay on

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<v Speaker 1>your path and not get distracted by the fancier the

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<v Speaker 1>shinier things in life. UM, and to stay loyal to

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<v Speaker 1>the people that UM have stayed by your side. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big one. So what did you mean

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<v Speaker 1>by don't let the noise distract you? So, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry that we are in, it's very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>get distracted or not even just the industry. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram nowadays is a huge distraction, right. UM. I find

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<v Speaker 1>myself sometimes being really low on comparing myself with other

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<v Speaker 1>people are doing, where they're traveling to, um, assuming how

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<v Speaker 1>much money they're making, um, and all that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just noise. That's such a distraction, And we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get redirected, um, towards those things. We should stay focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the path and the goals that fuel us. And

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<v Speaker 1>what are you know? I was having this conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>someone in high school. When you're in high school, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to decide what's your job going to be for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life? Right? How do you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what you want to be for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life when you're high school. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty, I still don't know what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that we're still figuring it out. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's so important to you at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, find what you're what fuels you and what

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<v Speaker 1>drives you and what makes you so hungry in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning to wake up and like do the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you love, and what your definition of successes. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>my definition of success is having my friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>around me that loved me and that that support me

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<v Speaker 1>and doing things to help people. That's my level of

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<v Speaker 1>that's what my level of successes, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to focus on this year. Yeah, totally. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to find the article right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading something last year about how you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>look at Instagram before you go to bed. You actually

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<v Speaker 1>look at something it's not It doesn't say that you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't look at your phone, but you shouldn't look at

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<v Speaker 1>social media because apparently it gives you so much anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>because you are always comparing yourself to other people that

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<v Speaker 1>you see, whether it be friends or influencers or bloggers

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<v Speaker 1>that you follow. Uh, And that you should really watch

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<v Speaker 1>something far more lighthearted that makes you feel ease and

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable before you go to bed, and it will make

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<v Speaker 1>you sleep better at night. I wish I found the article,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. But like so many people watch Friends

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<v Speaker 1>if all sleeped, Like my wife Antonia, both falselep to

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<v Speaker 1>friends every night. It's yeah, it's it's just something about

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<v Speaker 1>turning off your brain and just enjoying it and just happiness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Yeah, Uh, I agree, Mark, what's your show.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a show that you false like darkness

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<v Speaker 1>and silence? I don't. I don't subscribe to this theory.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not in your own head. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 1>my own head. I I'm pretty good at getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of my own head. I can tell when I'm laying

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<v Speaker 1>there in my own head, and I have techniques just

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of it. And then i'm what's your

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<v Speaker 1>technique for the listeners? It's not really I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's shareable necessarily. It's certain like I don't turn.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to put it into words. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's breathing and it's um. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>certain amount of just kind of visualization of of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I will do sometimes I can share this,

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<v Speaker 1>So I will do sometimes if I hear something awful

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<v Speaker 1>in the news, some horrible story in the news, I

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<v Speaker 1>will imagine myself as a superhero stopping that from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's weird and childlike, but I will imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that I have the ability to stop that person from

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<v Speaker 1>getting killed or attacked or robbed or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that really affects me, I will imagine myself stopping it.

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<v Speaker 1>From happening and that helps me drift off to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh huh, I don't know how to react to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great because I'm trying to put myself

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<v Speaker 1>in that where I'm watching the news because I I

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time watching the local news everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that we live in a very difficult world today,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything is car crash, uh, you know, entencing, um murder,

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<v Speaker 1>h a van or kidnapped or whatever it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I get it. We live in a

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<v Speaker 1>dark world, and I'm I want to be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in my surroundings, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>it just weighs on you. So that's an interesting technique

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm actually going to try to watch the news

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm gonna imagine myself as a superhero, which

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<v Speaker 1>I do all the time anyway, and I'm gonna imagine

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<v Speaker 1>myself stopping that crime and see if it helps, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always looking for techniques to get out of my

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<v Speaker 1>own head regrets. Um, So, Vanessa, you actually said something

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<v Speaker 1>that I was perked my ears. You said that you

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<v Speaker 1>did a list of the things that you were ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>of over the past year. I was just reading it here.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very interesting. Did you write this? Where did

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<v Speaker 1>you get the list? It's on her Instagram. Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that you know, this looks like it looks to

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<v Speaker 1>me like if I had to guess, would like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she took this from Motivational Speaker's website or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is very well written, right, so, so obviously you're

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to share it, so I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask that question. What are some of the things, Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the things that you put on there? Um? So,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so interesting. So I came up with this

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<v Speaker 1>concept yesterday. I wanted to start my new year, the

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<v Speaker 1>year thirty thirty two, on a clean slate, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to not go into year thirty two with having

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety over certain things that have happened in the last

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<v Speaker 1>year or throughout the years, um that could creep up

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<v Speaker 1>and make me kind of feel derailed in my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and in my purpose. And so, I mean, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>really specific. I think it's just you know, at times

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<v Speaker 1>I could feel down, um, and sometimes I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I can't share that I'm gonna start crying. No, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>take a breath, if you want you don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about this if you don't want to. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Um, and it's all good. I think sometimes, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this level of pressure that we put on ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>where if we don't achieve certain things, or if we

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<v Speaker 1>put a timeline on certain things and we don't get there,

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<v Speaker 1>how about I read some of this because she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>last day as a thirty one year old and reflecting

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<v Speaker 1>on life this past year and years leading up to this,

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<v Speaker 1>I've realized a lot. I know I'm not perfect, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't strive to be, but I want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>being a better person. I forgive myself for allowing my

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<v Speaker 1>insecurities to get the best of me, and for comparing

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<v Speaker 1>myself to others. Boy, we've all done that. I forgive

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<v Speaker 1>myself for allowing my jealousy to cloud my judgment at times.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgive myself for doubting who I am, my purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>and my worth. I forgive myself for not being compassionate

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<v Speaker 1>with myself when I was feeling down. I forgive myself

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<v Speaker 1>for being selfish at times and not prioritizing friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgive myself. I'm not perfect. I don't strive to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to keep growing to becoming a better

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<v Speaker 1>person with age, a person with more compassion, more love,

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<v Speaker 1>more forgiveness, more empathy, more understanding. Thank you your thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two. I'm ready for you. That's so sweet, really

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<v Speaker 1>well written, very well written, very well spoken, Videssa. I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to defend myself. I saw that when you

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<v Speaker 1>said a list, I thought it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a specific list of like I'm ashamed of this that

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<v Speaker 1>that that's I was like, oh okay, and the best general.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave a general and then the best part is

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, top and Scarfe Hudson Bay. So there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. That's all in there. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a list, like on June, I didn't help

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<v Speaker 1>an old lady across the street on the shamed of myself. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hilarious, that's so funny. So um, I keep talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Jewish faith just because I learned so much

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<v Speaker 1>about it yesterday and because I put this post up yesterday. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We also had Rossia shown at dinner at my boyfriend's house,

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<v Speaker 1>and his mother was explained to me what the new

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<v Speaker 1>year symbolizes and for them they have like an apple

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<v Speaker 1>and a piece of bread with honey on it to

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<v Speaker 1>have a sweet new year and to start off the

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<v Speaker 1>new year's sweet um. And they also have between between

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<v Speaker 1>Russiatown and Young Kidpor they have a week where people

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to make or they want to make

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<v Speaker 1>amends to. That's their time to make amends to those people,

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for certain things you may have done or said

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<v Speaker 1>if you I think you may have hurt them, that's

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<v Speaker 1>your week to make her amends and to start your

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<v Speaker 1>your year on a fresh start, on a fresh note.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, wow, that's kind of like what I

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<v Speaker 1>did with myself yesterday. I made amends with myself yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can feel like it can start fresh. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just had this feeling when I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of what do I want in my my year

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two? What do I want? And for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the money, I don't want the fame. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of darkness that can come

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<v Speaker 1>with all that stuff. I just want to have purpose

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<v Speaker 1>again and feel refueled in my being and why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm on earth. So that's what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on for your thirty two. I'm sorry, no, please,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have got I got a little emotional reading

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<v Speaker 1>it too. It's not even my post or my birthday, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Vanessa, you're an incredible person who I

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<v Speaker 1>understand why you feel like you would want a fresh start,

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<v Speaker 1>but you really don't, because even in your year thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one on this earth, you've done so many incredible things,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're always sweet and kind and generous, and you

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<v Speaker 1>always bring a positive attitude to this podcast that you

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<v Speaker 1>you you don't need a fresh start. I I totally

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<v Speaker 1>understand where you're coming from, and I love your attitude

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<v Speaker 1>towards it, but as a friend, I just want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know that it's it's there's nothing that you ever

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<v Speaker 1>need to be quote ashamed of. We're all vain and

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<v Speaker 1>selfish at times, and I I can count numerous times

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the past hour how many times I've been selfish, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are one of the most kind people I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever met, Vanessa. So happy birthday to you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it's a great one. So you have dinner? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have you have any more plans? You have dinner

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<v Speaker 1>at your boyfriend's um parents house last night and then

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<v Speaker 1>and tonight I will be spending time with my family. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you guys going out to? You eating in

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<v Speaker 1>your feel like you guys are cooking. Well, so my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was like, well, I want to get you a cake.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so simple and like, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have this brand in the States McCain. It's

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<v Speaker 1>basically frozen cake that you can buy at the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite. It's like five dollars. And she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna get you McCaine cake. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's literally all I want. It's like it tastes like

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<v Speaker 1>a McDonald's cake. When you were a kid and you

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<v Speaker 1>had birthday parties at McDonald's. Ronald McDonald's thing. I never remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember what is this McDonald's cake you speak of.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never had a McDonald's cake. No, I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>mcflorian my time. Okay, Jared, w's your birthday November McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>cake for your birthday? No? Actually yes, please? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to send it from Canada? I'm confused. I

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I can go to the local McDonald's and

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<v Speaker 1>get it. I will, because how about this on my birthday?

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<v Speaker 1>The week of the podcast. I'll bring in a McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>cake if this thing does exist. I've never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>a McDonald's cake. Maybe that's a Canadian thing too. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we have something in Canada. The States doesn't happ we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I look them up here. They look great, deep and delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've never seen these before. So cakes in universal

0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:35.480
<v Speaker 1>healthcare the two things that can have. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a question. Hello Tory ladies in jail. I enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast over here. Hi, happy birthdayby well, I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the Grimaldi's have a good birthday tradition,

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<v Speaker 1>like what do you what do you guys do? So

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<v Speaker 1>my sister is born on my brother's born September seven,

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<v Speaker 1>My sister is born September eight. I'm born September. So

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<v Speaker 1>we usually celebrate all of our birthdays. Like I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sell lebrated with them for their birthday and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be celebrating with me. But we always get

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<v Speaker 1>together with my grandparents on Sunday, and for me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the most sacred time of the week. Um, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>we just all all fourteen of us are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get together on Sunday. This Sunday, coming up and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have my grandmother's famous homemade cake. What flavor cake

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<v Speaker 1>is this? It's like six layers of chocolate cake, and

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<v Speaker 1>in between she puts this like cream. It's a moose,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has it has chocolate and coffee flavor in it.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds delicious, my two favorite flavors. It is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the only thing I asked Bright and like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't buy me presents, just get me that cake. It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>We also learned that your parents really like to get frisky.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the holidays, I know, all right, Mark doing

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<v Speaker 1>some quick there. I think there's a high number of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are born in September because it is the

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<v Speaker 1>most populous month for birthdays. Yeah, you know, it's the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>If Ellen and love you staying inside, you're cozy by

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. September nine, there's the most common birthday in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and September is the busiest month for births overall. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you it's Christmas and New Years. Jared's is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be January because that's Super Bowl February and half

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl baby to February, and that's when my kid

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<v Speaker 1>will be born. And that's it's so crazy because I

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<v Speaker 1>messed with Jared and Ashley. I had a dream that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had a baby and named her Marie, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was you had three I remember, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>three names. The first name was Marie, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>gave two other two other middle names, and then was

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<v Speaker 1>your last name. Yeah, Marie Tom Brady Hayden was the

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<v Speaker 1>proper name right there. Um, that will definitely be the

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<v Speaker 1>name of my kid as long as Ashley approves. But

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to help I suck at dating on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, we have the executive producer of the brand

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<v Speaker 1>new Hallmark movie Matchmaker Mysteries A Killer Engagement, which is

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<v Speaker 1>premiering this Sunday, October six on Hallmark Movies and Mysteries.

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<v Speaker 1>Patty Stanger, thank you so much, Patty. How are you good?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm doing well. You're in the line

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<v Speaker 1>with myself and Vanessa and we are very excited about

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<v Speaker 1>your brand new movie that you have a character based

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<v Speaker 1>about you. Yeah, I do well. Kind of like me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say it's a little more Hallmark Matchmaker Matchmaker. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair enough. I saw the trailer for it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Danika McKellar plays a character Annie Dove, who is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much Angie Angie Dove. Um, I can't read. It's

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of me. I'm I'm a terrible reader.

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<v Speaker 1>And um. And so she plays a character that's a

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<v Speaker 1>matchmaker but also pretty much solving a murder mystery. It

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<v Speaker 1>appears right, and that character is based on you. So

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<v Speaker 1>did you sit down to Anika and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Anka. This is what you should be doing,

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<v Speaker 1>This is how you should act, this is what matchmaking

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<v Speaker 1>is all about. Well, I mean, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>tell Dannica what to do in the acting department. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she pretty much got that wrapped up, but she

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<v Speaker 1>we did spend a lot of time together and I

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<v Speaker 1>was helping the writer rights to script and it was

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<v Speaker 1>my idea with my executive producer, Lance Robbins. And when

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<v Speaker 1>we pitched it to Hallmark Um Michelle who's voice Risdon

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<v Speaker 1>the Hallmark she based a We said, Dannica wants to

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<v Speaker 1>do a mystery Wheel and it was like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a no brainer at that point because it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I could totally see her doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's really scientific in a lot of ways. If

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<v Speaker 1>you know that she wrote Math book, she's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a nerdy, sexy scientist, and that's kind of what the

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<v Speaker 1>mathmakers are. We noticed things that nobody notices, the subtle nuances,

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<v Speaker 1>the body language, the things that the cops wouldn't generally

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<v Speaker 1>pick up on. We kind of know. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>when she teams up with Victor Webster and he's the

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<v Speaker 1>cop on the beach trying to figure out the murderer,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, yeah, I don't see it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>they become the perfect team. And then again Bruce box

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<v Speaker 1>Sitner as the father is like the perfect you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's like the wisdom you know of all this

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on totally. And we know Danica from her

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<v Speaker 1>time on the Wonder Years, but I also know her

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<v Speaker 1>very well from her time on A Practical Jokers if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen that show. Yes, big fan over here, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And she's great. So I'm very excited to see her

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<v Speaker 1>in this role as Angie Dove. And so Patty, what

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<v Speaker 1>what inspired this idea, you know, kind of combining matchmaking

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<v Speaker 1>with solving mysteries. Well, it started out first where I

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<v Speaker 1>had a flue but two years ago and I was

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in bed and I fell on the Hallmark Channel.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always been a fan of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the commercials, you know, with the cards and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't realize there was this whole NonStop movie,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Cattle that like kind of stuck you into

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Crack. So I basically went into Christmas Crack and

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like Christmas is over, and I kept going,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's New Years and there's and saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, this is like a house

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<v Speaker 1>of love. And then I switched over to the Mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>channel and I got really hooked on that, and then

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I came up with, like, what if there was a

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>matchmaker that evolved a crime. That's basically what happened. Channels. Yeah,

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean even the drama channel. Now I'm falling in

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<v Speaker 1>love with. So it's kind of like, you know, I

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>saw other icons from other various famous television shows becoming

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<v Speaker 1>these amazing you know people on Hallmark, and I was like,

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is a perfect Gantica fit. You know,

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>her viewers are there and everything, and she's she's done

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of movies in Christmas time, and she's going

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<v Speaker 1>about to do the Dolly movie and did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good stuff with her, so and we get along

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.959
<v Speaker 1>really well. That's really nice to hear. Okay, friends through

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<v Speaker 1>the process. Yeah, yeah, she looks like a fantastic fit.

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited about it. Now, Patty, my question is

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 1>have you ever solved the crime? I have, but it's home, okay,

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a Bravo crime. It's a

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Bravo crime. It wasn't necessarily a murderer. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>stoll who did what to whom? Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>did stop like somebody somebody had stolen something, and I

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out. Did your matchmaking feels like? Did that

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<v Speaker 1>come in handy? Well, I mean, this person has too

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 1>many people in their house all the time. And then

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I figured out the person was that stole and sure

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>enough they found the good Will say the jewelry in

0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>this person's car. So I did kind of spit out.

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Good for you, Damn, that's awesome. You're a badass, Patty.

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you that. Yeah. Um, But we do have

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>some reader emails that I would love to read to

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>you on air, because you are a professional matchmaker and

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot more about dating than myself. I

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 1>can tell you that. Would you mind answering some of

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>these perfect So this one is from Diana and the

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>subject line is I don't know what we are. She says,

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been talking dating this guy for almost five months now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not entirely sure as to what it is

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<v Speaker 1>that we are. We don't live in the same state,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is like a long distance sort of thing,

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>but we talk almost every day and even FaceTime once

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>or twice a day as well. We're about a seven

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<v Speaker 1>hour drive away from each other, and recently he actually

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>drove out to see me, even though we could only

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<v Speaker 1>spend one day together, so he drove seven hours just

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to spend one day with her. There are a couple

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>of things that he does throw me off, though. There

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>are a couple of things that he does it throw

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>me off, like liking other girls pictures on Instagram, and

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>he'll sometimes take forever to reply, even though I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's not busy. But then I'll start to feel guilty

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>about getting mad since we haven't had that discussion just yet.

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I've brought up the whole are what are we? Are?

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>We are? What are we not? Talk? Um? But my

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>question is are are? Should I bring it up? Should

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I bring it up more? Do I need to talk

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>to him? I don't really know what to do? How

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>can I get some clarity on this situation? Al First

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>of all, we need to know what on that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an important pre ingredient if you're in your forties

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>and you're doing this your children. But if you're in

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>your twenties and doing this, of course he's gonna like

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>kids women on Instagram. Um. Second thing is if it's

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.679
<v Speaker 1>all about the accident stuff for you showing accents, so

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 1>don't think about all the other stuff, think about the

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>positive stuff. That he drove semin hours for one day

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>that you're talking and again the phone. It's at that

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<v Speaker 1>point it's five months, especially if you're sleeping together, that

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>you need to declare what you are and say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume you'd be exclusive, because you know me,

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in having such that monogamy. So I

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>do believe you have to have the exclusivity conversation and

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<v Speaker 1>then talk about where this is going to go because

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get tired of that long distance shuffle. It's

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna get old really fast if you don't have a

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>direction of where that train is headed to. Our next

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>email is from an overwhelmed newbie data, she says, or

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>he you know she. I'm a twenty four year old

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 1>female who's never really dated. I actually only just had

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.199
<v Speaker 1>my first kiss a couple of weeks ago, and it

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>completely freaked me out. The lack of dating hasn't really

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>bothered me because I've been super busy with school to

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>master degrees down congratulations girl, and I haven't lived in

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the same place for more than ten months in the

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>last three years. However, and now that I'm thinking about

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>diving in, I'm finding the whole idea incredibly overwhelming. I'm

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>particular terrified of online dating, but that seems to be

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>how everything's done these days. I'm the kind of person

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>who needs a foundation of friendship before I catch feelings

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>for a guy, and I have a hard time getting

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<v Speaker 1>past a first date with a guy I've just met

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>because it just feels too intense. How do I stop

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>over thinking this dating thing? Am I just putting way

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>too much pressure on a first date? Or maybe should

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I just give up on online dating? Help? Okay, so

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm an online dating two so I know how overwhelming

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>it can be. Second of all, you can't put so

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>much attachment to a first date, let alone an online

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>first date. That's throw that away. The second thing is

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>why is everything in online dating? You have a hundred

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>percent of a search and should only be online. You

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>should be going to meet up, should be going to

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>friends events, charity events like moving, moving around your neighborhood

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>or getting out of your own neighborhoods, going from the

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 1>next town over. Like this whole business that is that

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>is at your computers. That's so lazy and you're getting

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>disappointed in it. It may not be for you. I

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't give off on it, but I wouldn't put my

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>whole first in that. And this final email is from anonymous,

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>which our favorite emails come from because they're usually the juiciest,

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and it says subject line two and a half years

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>of friends with benefits. A while back, I had just

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>moved to a new place, and soon thereafter I met

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>someone on tender. We hit it off, but I had

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>just gotten out of a bad relationship and told him

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>anything more than hanging out and hooking up wasn't going

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Over the past two and a half years,

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>we've maintained a close friendship, and although both of us

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>have dated other people on and off, we've always ended

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>up getting together once we were single again. This past summer,

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I moved back home. I decided to take the plunge

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and had him come over for a full day night.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>While I was house sitting, I showed him around my hometown.

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>We went to the beach and out to dinner. It

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>was also natural and fun. I realized how well we

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>know each other and that I could see myself having

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a future with him. The problem is that I don't

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>think I'm ready to be in a relationship. I just

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>finished school, and essentially still trying to figure out who

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I am and what I want in my life. Do

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I pursue the relationship so that I don't lose him

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>or stick to my gut and put my feelings away

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>so that I can focus on myself. Okay, I don't

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>understand why it can have volt Why can't you declare

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>are we an exclusive relationship? And if we're not next?

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Why does it have to be all? You know, end

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>all be all like? First of all, if you want

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, you have to speak up and say, I'm

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>not going past this point. Let's for an exclusive, anagamous,

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>committed relationship, and I'm not going to twist your arm.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Either you feel the same way or we're done. Okay,

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>but you don't have to go off and lick your

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>rooms and try to find yourself like you pray love.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>You can have another guy. He just might not be

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy. He might be the transition guy to the

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>next guy. So stupid we all make these decisions so rashly.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no rash decisions. It's just a learning curve, that's

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>all it is. And you have the rights to state

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>what you want based on how much you like that person.

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>If you don't like the person and you're just using

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>them for sex, that's time to move on. I agree

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think that two are not mutually exclusive. Patty,

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you are truly the best. Thank you so much for

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>calling in today. No, thank you. We really need you

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>back in studio because you are a personality that I

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>just love being around. So will you come back in

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>studio sometime? Absolutely love to let's left. No, Patty, thank

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you for joining us. And once again, everybody check out

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the new Hallmark movie UH, premiering this Sunday, October six.

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>It is called Matchmaker Mysteries A Killer Engagement, and Patty

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>is the executive producer on it. Very excited, Patty, you

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>have a wonderful day. Thank you too, good bye, welcome

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>back to help I suck at dating. Uh. We have

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a very special guest on the line. Yet again, all

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>our guests are very special, but this one is extremely

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>special because she's a dear friend of the podcast. She

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>has a new book out called Now Accepting Roses, Finding

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Myself while searching for the One, and other lessons I

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>learned from the Bachelor. Amanda Stand Ladies and gentlemen, Amanda,

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>how are you? I'm good? How are you guys. We

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>are doing pretty well. You're on the line with Vanessa

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and myself right now is driving the van some okay

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>perfect Um. First, well, we really wanted to talk about

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>your book, Now Accepting Roses Can Gratulations. First of all,

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>is in order. Thank you, You're very welcome. I read

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it over the weekend. It's a great read. You have

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>so much stuff and now you have your clothing line

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Lonnie the label you have this book coming out. I

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>just look at you and I'm like, how does she

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>do it with two kids and then all these amazing

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>career path that you're on. It's truly incredible. Thank you. Yeah,

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it's been a really busy year for me, but it's

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>been fun. Um. So, as I was reading the book yesterday,

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>first open it and it says praise for now Accepting Roses,

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and I see some familiar names. One who's a co

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>host of this podcast, who is not here, Mr Dean Anglert.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'd like to say I'd like to read what

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Dean had to say about Amanda and this book. Quote.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have seen me and many of

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>us in Bachelor Nation make mistakes when it comes to

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>dating and finding love. So reading Amanda's book and knowing

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that she braved through certain storms and takes accountability for

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 1>mistakes is definitely inspiring. I can see why Amanda and

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I became and stayed good friends. She's honest, for giving,

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>funny and genuine, and I'm proud to support her through

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and through end quote. It's really nice. I know he

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>was he was really sweet, but I was not gonna lie.

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I really wish that it was a collaborative quote from

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>help I Suck at Dating? But yeah, I just wanted

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the book a little bit. I really

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed reading it. For me. I don't want to describe it, Um,

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously because you are the author of it, But when

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I was reading it, it felt like a combination of

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>your dating life experiences, both on and off show and

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>with a mommy blogger, uh stamp on it is that inaccurate?

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Would you kind of say that's along the lines? Yeah,

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I would say something like that. So when I first

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>decided to write it, Um, I obviously just wanted to

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>write a book kind of about my experiences and dating

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>as a single mom. But then obviously The Bachelor has

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>been a huge part of my life the past two years. So, um,

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it kind of ended up turning into a little bit

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of a bachelor book and then also kind of a

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>self help book. Yeah. I think a lot of people

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 1>who you know, follow all of our lives don't realize

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>how big of an impact Bachelor really has on our lives,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people will criticize us saying, we

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>only talk our post about Bachelor of things, and I

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>think they failed to realize that it was really a

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 1>very uh huge, huge part of everybody's lives that were

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>involved in it. Um. Yeah. And that's not just the

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>book though, because your your entire you know, you don't

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you start talking about Bachelor really until like the third

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>or fourth chapter. Um, because you start off talking about

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>your your marriage with your ex husband Nick. And I

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like how you have like a little bad boy red flags. Um.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I thoroughly enjoyed that. Like you have like a list

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>of of red flags that say this guy is a

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>bad boy. And Eastern just walked in and he he's

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>got a few of these boys going on over here. Um.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>First one we've talked about in the podcast before it

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>says he's secretive? Does he cover his phone from when

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 1>he's texting? Keep his inbox out of sight. If he's hiding,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>chances are he has something to hide. And we talked

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about that too, about possibly bringing your phone into the bathroom,

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 1>UM to try to hide that. Yeah, I mean there's

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 1>lots of ways you can hide things, but I feel

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like that I just think it's the red flag. I

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 1>think if you're going to have a good relationship with someone,

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you should be pretty open and not who we hide

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>think totally, Amanda, you get into UM your relationship talks

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>with people for on that we're on the Bachelor, your

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>ex husband. At any point did you feel because I'm like,

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I've dated people, and did you ever

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like should I not show this information? Should I

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>show this information? Or if I show this information, I

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>know it can help out other women that are be

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>going through the same thing. Like what what was your

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>thought process us with that part of the book? Yeah,

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean there was obviously a lot of things that

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't share just because I felt like I didn't

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>need to UM. So it was kind of I just

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be intentional with it. I mean, I didn't

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>want to write a book just bashing all of my exes.

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>But just like you said, it was kind of like

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>if I felt like something would help someone, UM, that's

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of the stuff that I included. So I had

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to be picky with what I chose to include and

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>what I chose not to UM. But I would say

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things that I didn't include just

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't needed. Well, one thing, I don't know

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>if we spoke about it. I think I had messaged

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to you when you and Bobby had broken up. Um,

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.479
<v Speaker 1>there's one. So first of all, thank you for going

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>on the show and being a single mother, because I

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>think I gave a lot of mothers out there who

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>are experiencing the same thing and being in the dating

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>world kind of that hope that they can find love. UM.

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And then you had a public breakup. All of your

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>breakups for public, but the one with Bobby, I think

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>none of us saw that coming. I was in shock.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, what they just worked in together.

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>We're all invested in that story. Is that a new

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>relationship that you explore in the book as well. So

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>when I wrote the book was actually I started writing

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it before I was even dating him, so he wasn't included.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And then once we started dating, I included, you know,

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>at the end, there's parts of our relationship in there,

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>but it was before we broke up, so there's nothing

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>about our breakup in the book. Um. But yeah, I

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>mean it's so funny because everybody's like, we're so surprised

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>by that breakup, and I was actually super surprised by

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>it too. Um. So yeah, I didn't really have time

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to edit or include any of that in there. I mean,

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>do you say in the book that there's a big

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>difference between being a single woman and a single parent.

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by that? A single woman in

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>a single parent? Yeah, you said that in the dating world,

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that there's a difference with you personally being a single

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>woman and a single parent. Uh, and then that you've

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>realized that there's differences in dating between the two, and

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it kind of it was just a line that really

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>struck me, and I was curious, Uh, if you want

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to expand on it more. Yeah, I mean what I

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>mean by that, I mean, being a single parent is

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>just kind of how you're you know, raising your kids

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>on your own. And I think being a single woman

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>is something that I've recently, you know, over the past

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 1>few years, tried to be better about because you're still

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, your own person. You're still just another single

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>woman out there, whether you have kids or not. But

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely things that you have to look out for

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>one year dating when you do have kids. So I

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't necessarily say it complicates things, but you have to

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>pay attention to certain things more than you would if

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have kids. But I just think that there's

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>so many people that you know, whether you're single or not.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Once you have kids, you just kind of identify yourself

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>as like a mom and that's all you are. And

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that it's good to still be your own

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 1>person and you know, do things for yourself still. Um.

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And in the book, you have a lot dedicated to

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>your time on The Bachelor and both seasons a Bachelor

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise. A lot of it is about your relationship

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 1>with Josh and you're engagement to him. Did you talk

0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to Josh at all or reach out to him before

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the book? Know? Yeah, I mean we had talked to

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you knew I was writing a book because I was

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>writing the book over two years, so we've definitely talked

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>in between that time. Um, so he was aware and yeah,

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean he had he had a warn he was warned. Well,

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that's good. It's not the first time he's had a

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>book written about him either, so it is not And

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>you address that as well. Uh, when you met him

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>on Paradise. Uh, the book had just come out from

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Andy describing her relationship with Josh and some of the

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>red flags that she had seen from him. Yeah. So

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the crazy thing is when that book came out, I

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>was getting ready to go on the show, and nobody

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>had really read it that was on the season. Actually,

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>nobody read it that was in Paradise with me. So

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's why it was hard for me

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to really listen to what people were saying, because it

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>was kind of just hearsay. No one had actually read

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the book. And even if people had read it, and

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 1>we're warning me, I'm just one of those people. I

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to figure things out for myself. M Yeah,

0:39:56.160 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I was. I remember being on that season

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>with you and and it was it was weird. It

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>was a weird feeling because it was, you know, I'm

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>good friends with Nick, and Nick was there first, and

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>then you guys went on date and that you talked

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>about on the book. Um, and then Josh came in

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>and I while reading, I kind of asked myself the

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>same question that you did, apparently, which was, would Josh

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>have been as interested in me if I had not

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>gone on the date with Nick? Um. Yeah, and that's

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I mean, I don't know, but it's

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>an interesting question. Um. But it's like a competitive thing,

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, totally. Um. But I remember that season and

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>just everybody kind of uh telling you one thing. But

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, you're absolutely right. The only way

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you figure out things in this world is you have

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to figure out them on your own. Um. And I

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>always say to him, like, I'm sure it was super

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>frustrating to watch because people were like, this girl is

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>such an idiot. She's ignoring what everyone's telling her. But

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really ignoring everything, you know. It was like

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I kept it in the back of my mind, like

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I saw things, but I also really like him, so

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I just had to kind of figure things out from myself. Yeah.

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's like any relationship, you only really start seeing

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the person's true colors once you're outside of it looking in.

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.439
<v Speaker 1>So I'm the same way. I'll date someone and I

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that if it ends. It ends

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>because it was on my terms, not what other people

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>were saying or trying to convince me. Um. Then another

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>thing that I love. I love following you because you

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>have such great style, and then your kids are still adorable,

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure a lot of our listeners are just

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 1>as obsessed with your kids as they are with you.

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>What kind of advice would you give to parents listening? Um? Well,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.720
<v Speaker 1>especially now with like social media and like putting pictures

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>up of your kids, and you know, there's always going

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to be people who are whether it's about you or

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>your kids or whatever. You can post a picture about

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>a glass with water in it and people are going

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to say something negative about it. What advice would you

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>give to parents on I guess not being so affected

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>or not even just parents, even someone like me, like

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>not being so affected by people's comments on Instagram. I

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like, I mean, I go through phases where it's

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like I don't really care what people are saying, and

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>then you have your moments or people will say something

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that you're sensitive about and it kind of gets to you.

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And I still feel that way sometimes. But yeah, like

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I recently posted a picture of Charlie and I got

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 1>a ton of hate for it, but I think it's

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>just kind of preference, and um, like, I obviously know

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that I protect my kids the best they can, and

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone just used things differently. So I know that all

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>my friends that have kids post a million photos of

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>their kids all day long, um, and no one ever

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 1>really says anything. But I think it's just because you know,

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a following that people think that I shouldn't

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. So I guess it's this preference, like I'm

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>going to continue to post what I want to post

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>and people can either like it or they cannot like it,

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and I just try not three the comments and be

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 1>to just not let it affects me and just keep

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>doing me. So I think, like you said, you can

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>post a photo of a glass of water and I

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like people would hate on it. So I think

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>if you know that, it's easier to just kind of

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>continue to do what you are too. I agree. I

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>think that's a good mindset to have. And something that

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you actually talk about in the book is social media

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and the following that you gain from the show. And

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a really great read. I can't recommend it enough

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's it's about your time on the Bachelor,

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.240
<v Speaker 1>which is really fascinating, but it's also about you dating

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>as as a single parent in your time through your

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>first marriage and having kids and then thereafter. Um, it's

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a really good read and you guys

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>can pick it up at anywhere books are sold. It's

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>called Now Accepting Roses, Finding Myself while searching for the One,

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and other lessons that I learned from The Bachelor by

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Amanda stand Amanda, we'd really love to have you in

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>studio once again, so if you're ever in the l

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>A area, please hit up any three of us and

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>we would love to have you here to talk more

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>about this book. Yes, I would love to let you

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>guys know next time I'm around. All right, thank you

0:43:51.080 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>so much for calling a man. Thanks Ada, guys, jaredd

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<v Speaker 1>starts tonight. Well, welcome back. But before we end the

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>podcast this week, Mark had a Cosmopolitan article that you

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted to read to us about what again? I love

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>my Cosmo. First of all, you know Ashley writes for

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Cosmo for Bachelor recap. Oh nice, look at that shameless

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>plug r the Cosmo family. We love Cosmo over here.

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's not to allow? Cosmo Cramer is my favorite,

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>but Cosmo Magazine is a close second. But also as

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy, there's a lot to be glean from Cosmopolitan magazine.

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>You look at that cover, there's at least four articles.

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you like I would like to read that article? Oh,

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I've bought Cosmo bovar because I forget what the headline was,

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>but it was like eleven ways to make her go crazy,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'll take this, thank you very much. Okay, Well,

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>what they're talking about is the dating term zombing. Are

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>we familiar with zombiing? Yes? And no? What do you

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>think it is? Just based on the name, what do

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you think it is? Um? I guess someone lobuler, I

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>have no idea. Well, also, I'd like to say it's

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<v Speaker 1>very timely. This this word, this word us doing zombieing

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>October Halloween. Tell us Mark, tell the people what zombieing is.

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Cosmo says, be aware of the zombie who goes to

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<v Speaker 1>you and then after some time has passed, rises from

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the dead and hits you up again. And it's can

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>come in the form of a text, a d M,

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>a phone call, or simply matching on another dating app.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I read it from the Urban Dictionary. I'm a

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>big fan of dictionary dot com. So zombieing related to

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<v Speaker 1>dating a person who cuts off all contact but then

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>repeatedly comes back after long absences, different from someone who

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>ghosts and never returns. A zombie pops up and says

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>high every few months. To use it in a sentence.

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>We went out for three months and then I never

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>heard for her again. Two months later, she texts me

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>as if nothing happened. I think she's zombie and me,

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>why are they insinuating it's a girl that would do

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>that to a guy? My head and mediately went to

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy to which maybe which is why Urban Dictionary

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>said it was a girl throw you off? So wait,

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is it's someone that shows you attention then go sue

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and then comes back like with you? It's a ghost

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>rising from the dead. First of all, why is this

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<v Speaker 1>not called peek a boo? That's fantastic, Vanessa, I got

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.359
<v Speaker 1>peeka boon. I think he's peekaboo with me? He has

0:46:54.400 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>anyone experienced this yet? Oh? Yes, are you kidding me? Before? Yeah,

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>before the Bachelor, I definitely think. I definitely think this

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 1>is more guys than girls. Vanessa, What was your story?

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>There's no specific stories exactly that where shows you and

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>even actually that's not true. Even after the show. I

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>was talking to someone and then all of a sudden,

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>they ghosted me out of nowhere, and I was like,

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 1>what the did I do? And then obviously becomes a

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>did I do something? Did I did I insult them? That?

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Was I too need you? Was I to this or whatever?

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I guess uh, the next best

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>thing was boring to them? And then they come back

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and they reappear in your life again so many times,

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 1>not so many times, but enough times to be like, yeah,

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been zombie more than one, so it could be

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.479
<v Speaker 1>years between the ghost and the zombie Oh totally wow.

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.959
<v Speaker 1>But can it only be called zombie if you take

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that person back, because then they're like back to life

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit or zombie just if they come back

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in I think if they come back because they're showing life,

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>they're back from the dead, because once they ghost you,

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>they're dead. They're a ghost bye bye there in the afterlife.

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 1>But if they start showing you attention, if they start

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 1>showing you attention again, then they're brought back to life,

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>which makes them a zombie. That's what I think of it,

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>even if it's a little attention. I'm trying to think

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 1>of personal examples. There is one that comes to mind,

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's like very very ingrained in my heart, So

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I really want to share it

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's somebody that I mean, has meant a lot

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 1>to me in my past, uh that this kind of

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>falls in line with and it has to do a

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit with the show. Um. But then I'm trying

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 1>to think of my own experience because I'm a guy.

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll share it at one point, maybe as being

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy, you know, sometimes you show somebody attention who's attractive,

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're thinking, is this going to go anywhere? Probably not,

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>but let's have some fun now. I've never ghosted anybody.

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think I've ghosted, but you know,

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I have my ended thing and then maybe, you know,

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>like a month or two down the line, not a

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>U up text, but like, hey, what's going on? How's things?

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Where are you up to? It's a loneliness thing, right,

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I know, maybe it was an okay situation

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not in anymore. I know, so I can't

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>say that never goes to anybody and then zombie them.

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.919
<v Speaker 1>But I have ended things and then been that guy

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 1>who's like, hey, what's going on? Because it is a

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>loneliness and borderment. It's so bad. It's so bad. That's

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the things on my birthday I'm gonna say,

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm ashamed of that. I have done that. Anybody want

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to chime in. It's got to be a name for that.

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>In dating terms, they got the ex boyfriend who shows

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>up out of the blue a boyfriend, But like, I've

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>gone on dates with people that that's whiplash. Whiplash when

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>the X shows back up, it's like whoa, you know

0:49:55.280 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Vanessa that's whip lash. Yeah, it and

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 1>now you're back, and it's because it's a gear change.

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like if you're dropping your transmission now because you're

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>cruising along, you're finally getting over that person and then wham,

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>there they are again. I'm trying to like, I'm dating

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>someone and then there X shows up? Or is it

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>when you want your ex right? If there's definitely another

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 1>term of one of your friends X comes after you,

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that's just what If I'm dating so I'm dating Josh

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and his X shows up, what's that? I think that

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>would be whip a whiplash towards Josh because he's like, whoa,

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 1>my ex is back. Not that Josh talks like that,

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.320
<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean. I'm doing it for

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>dramatic effects, but I think zombiing, Yeah, zombing. I don't know.

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure somebody would accuse me of zombie. I wish

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Dean was here. He's definitely zombie. He is a living zombie.

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I have zero doubts about that. No, I know, but

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Um yeah, what do we think about zombie? Um?

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't do it. Don't do it. You shouldn't have in

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the first place. Yeah. If for for the definition of this,

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>if you've ghosted, let it die, just let it die.

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Don't be that guy to come back. Yes, I think so, Okay,

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:21.360
<v Speaker 1>so I've never so then technically I've never zombied anyone.

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Have you ghosted anybody? Vanessa? I haven't ghosted anyone, but

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess I've done like the Peeka boom peekabood. Can

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>we just grab I've left? You know, I kind of

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't show interest, but then I was like, ah, I

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>need some attention. Let me go back to this person

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and get them attention. I never ghosted them, so I

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>never zombie. All right, So, yeah, you and I are

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Peka boots were not zombies. We got to find out

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>if Dean is a zombie or if he's a pekater

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>all of the above. We just coined that term. I

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>really enjoy it. We should takes off. Yeah, this is

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like the next catfish. We should really take ownership of

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>this promoted post it. I enjoy it. Geredd Are you

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<v Speaker 1>I go Coco Pebbles on that one. Personally. Oh, I'm

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>all for the Coco Pebbles. If I can have chocolate

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:22.560
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<v Speaker 1>starts tonight. All right, well, that'll do it with our

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>episode this week of help I Suck at Dating. Tory Mark,

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:36.839
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for joining us. As always, it's

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>your job, you get paid to do it, so I

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>guess I really should thank you all that much. Vanessa,

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. As always, again, your job, but

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to say thank you. It's my job

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to be here, so nobody thank me. Uh, Dean, We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. Uh. We have some very awesome

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