1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Wait that up in the morning Breakfast Club Morning, everybody 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: to breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Uh you know him from Snowfall and a host of 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: other things. His birthday is one day before mine. He's 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: a fellow Virgo damn soon is just welcome son, Welcome, sir, 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: damn Son. I didn't know. I didn't know. Your birthday 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: was the first September. Your day before September. Oh, thud, okay, okay. 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: Buddy of mine is the third two Actually, the show 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: runner of Snowfall, Dave Androna bug is the best. You know. Absolutely, 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: they had us on New Yes, there you go. Now. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: The first thing you said was I love New York 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: because I love Jamaican culture. Yeah. What do you love 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: so much about Jamaican culture? What? What do you love? 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Obviously your food? Dirt chicken. Yeah, I'm an ox guy. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: You both, yeah, oxtail. Actually, I like to dabble one both. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I like to steal food from whoever I'm eating with 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: um plantains. Do you guys say plantain or planting? I 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: say planting. I feel like that's the right way to 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: say it was saying it wrong. You had to switch 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: through all different types of ways. It's different kinds of 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: ways to say things. So oh yeah, yeah, that's that's 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: part of my life. Instating people you don't have amazing 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: Jamaican restaurants in London or in la where your shoot? No, nah, 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: that's no man, not at all out here like Missus Lilies, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: missus m She wrote, actually wrote on a gramasels like 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: oh where could I go? People said, um, Footprints, Yes, Like, 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: first of all, the best Caribbean food is in Brooklyn. 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: We got Footprints, we got Swede, we got Caribbean social 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: we have. This is New York. This we have. We 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: have to grow growl yes number one as well, come 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: on the other one's quote. But I'm going to try 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: all of it today. That's impossible. But you say foot print, 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: Footprints is the best one to go. Foot Prints is 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: known for their rasta pasta and they actually opened the 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: restaurant in Mahattan called Jasmines. And I think the guy 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: who invented rasta pasta, I'm like a kind of stour 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: of all these things. Rasta pasta pasta with Caribbean with 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: with chicken, or shrimp or if you want to go, 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: I want to set you up at all these restaurants 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: and no problems, please please. Man. You know my wife 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: is Jamaican port Jamaican, so that's that's what we have 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: all the time, wow, all the time. Jamaican culture is 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: so prominent in the UK. Obviously African culture, but Jamaican too. 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: The majority of them came over to the UK in 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: the sixties and fifties and yeah, they just they took 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: over man and reggae music also, Oh definitely, there's um 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: there's this carnival in London called Norton Hill Carnival Downhill 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: and we haven't been able to have it because of COVID, 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: but the majority of the time I wear suits. If 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: you ever want to see me ratchet, it's at notting 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Hill Corner. So do you still go out in London 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: and enjoy yourself? Was to the point now where everybody 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: knows who you are, so it was difficult. I'm chilling, man. 55 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't really go out like I'll be in like 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: a private little member's ball or something, or drinking some ROMs, 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: some red wine. I'm sure you know, man, you know, 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm oh god, yeah, I'm not saying I'm old, but 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna retire. Man. No, but I don't know, man, 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Like I definitely see the difference between myself and a 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: twenty one year old now more than ever. Like the club, 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't like the club like I don't like the 63 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: concept of it. Um. I standing at the ball, people 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: look at me like, what are you doing? Like chilling? 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: You don't know what to do. I like chilling at 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: the bar, like I don't like staying at the table, 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: and I don't like that anymore, Like I like chilling 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: at the ball. Um. Yeah, man, I'm just I'm grown. 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a dinner's guy now. I like private members 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: clubs and okay that's my way. I saw you talking 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: about how John Singleton told you to stay humble though 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: amongst everything different people. I don't know the first time 73 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: we actually met you, you you were appar with John Singleton. 74 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you don't remember you though, And remember it's like 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: this first met you when y no, no, no, there's 76 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: a couple of askin guys in a DSS. But yes, 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: how has that been for you? Though? Because obviously Snowfall 78 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: is such a huge show, you guys are in the 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: fifth season, We've watched Franklin grow up and he has 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of big things happening. But in real life, 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: you've grown up to and your star has grown up 82 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's a testament to John Singleton. 83 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: You know. He really believed in me. And although I 84 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: fought for the role like crazy, auditioned like nine times, 85 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, he took me to South Central, opened up 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: the car door and said, if you survive, you got 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: the role. And I was like, walking around had to 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: be in character the real South Central. Oh yeah, how 89 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: was that? Bring that experience? Man? So I'll get to 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: John Singleton's office and I think I'm gonna read the 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna audition, right, It's like like, well this number 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: eight or something like that. And then he's like, yeah, no, 93 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: we're not gonna read anything. We're just gonna take a 94 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: walk someone walking around and he's like, don't break character. 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: And he's introducing me to people, and you know, Singleton 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: was like god in his community. Like people will be 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: like yo, John, you know, and then they'd come up 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: to me talking to me and like Yo, what's up 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: a little homie. I'm like, yeah, yeah, what what's up, 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: So I'm just pretending like that I'm from there. Um. 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: And then his mom came and you know, I'm British. 102 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: So I'm saying a bunch of British stuff in an 103 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: American accent. But he didn't know you were British, right, 104 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, he knew, like he wanted to miss. What 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of British stuff were you saying? You know, like 106 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: you guys say like elevator, I say Lyft. You know, 107 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: you guys say Ben. You guys say trash or say Ben. 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: So exactly, so I'm talking in an American accent and 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: his mom comes like, oh, how lovely your hair looks today. 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go over there and throw something in 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: the bend And she looks over Joanna and she's like, John, 112 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: he ain't from here, huh. I was like, man, Mom, 113 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: just walking around Central. I wasn't scared, Man, I was 114 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: with John. You was my big brother. You know, that 115 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: was my big brother. Man. I'm miss him greatly. But 116 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: as far as I get in this, in this industry 117 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: and on this journey, I'm always gonna honor Singleton for 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: being my foundation. Well let's talk about the new season. 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: So you're also producing yeah, on the new season. How 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: did that come about? Wow? I forced them to give 121 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: me in prod secret. No. Um. You know, when you 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: when you've been doing this show for so long, you 123 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: you pick up different traits, but at the same time 124 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: you want to be challenged. And my circles um are 125 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: so bossy today that they inspire me to want to 126 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: be more of a leader. That's the truth. It's like 127 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: if you hang around with certain types of people, having 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: certain types of conversations and they're like, yo, bro, you 129 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: should go, and then you ask and they're like, okay, 130 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've been watching the YA doc you know, 131 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: and Hove was like, you know, clothes mouths don't get fit. 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's true. You know, asking you shall receive 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: And I asked and they gave it to me, and 134 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, above all things, I'm not I'm not saying 135 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: my level of producing is at the level of my 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: acting ability. My acting ability is quite horrible. I'm just saying. 137 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm being a sponge and I'm being given 138 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to learn so that I could use my 139 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: platform and my brand to create more opportunities. Now you 140 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: play a crack cocaine dealer, right, Um, how difficult was 141 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: that learning that? Because you're young so crack it really 142 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: affected me and ye our age grew grown up at kids, 143 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: we would see crack pipes everywhere. We would see crack 144 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: crack pipes and crack viles all over the place in Brooklyn. 145 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: Not all over the place, no, it was all over 146 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: the place. It was very very big, very very effect 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: that I got family members affected by it and all that. 148 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: So how did you prepare for learning that role? Wow? Well, 149 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm from Peckham in London, which is the self central 150 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: equivalent in my opinion. Um, single you know, single parents, 151 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, broken homes, that's in jail, Um, police brutality, racism, 152 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and drugs. You know, drugs was a major fact of 153 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: my upbringing on my community. Everyone around me was involved. 154 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: So drugs at all? Um, so everybody, so us have 155 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: you ever know? You haven't I'm scammed, But no drugs 156 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: retired police officer, So there was no drugs ever coming 157 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: to my crib. Okay, okay, he would have been no never, no, no, 158 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so so basically I just just preparing for 159 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: the role was interesting. There's so much history, you know 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: on this drug And the thing I love about the show, 161 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: particularly season five, is I'm not sure if you guys 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: are aware about the lem Bias case. I was just 163 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: reading about that because I didn't know it was a 164 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: real person. Oh yeah, yeah. So he was a basketballer 165 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: in Maryland University in nine and eighty six, and essentially 166 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: his unfortunate overdose created a snowball effect in America. With 167 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: the Clinton administration is basically how Clinton even became president 168 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: in the first place. And they introduced mandatory minimums, right, 169 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: so all these mandatory laws of you know, getting caught 170 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: with like a a graham of crack was the same 171 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: as a hundred grahams of cocaine. And what that essentially 172 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: did was it broke up the American African American household, 173 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: and that's why so many fathers were gone. That's why 174 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: we see what we see today. And the show season 175 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: five starts with that correlating to Franklin having there in 176 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. Now I'm living the high life. 177 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Beautiful place to live, the pent house, Jerome and Louis 178 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: are on horses. Leon's like a Franklin and his own 179 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: right and girlfriend exactly loyal. So you're seeing him enjoying 180 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: this lifestyle like so many people in the eighties did. 181 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: But then you're seeing the demise of a community. You're 182 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: seeing people like wander Bell trying to find a sense 183 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: of redemption after everything that she's been through from being 184 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: addicted to this drug. Singleton would say, you know that 185 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: black people will have been affected in many ways, but 186 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: crack cocaine was the only thing that made black mothers 187 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: leave their children, so that it's a deep thing, man. Yeah, 188 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: but Winder in particular, her just even being able to 189 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: try to find a job, and she can't even get work, 190 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: and she wants to be clean and day clean. But 191 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to do, right when. I think 192 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people could relate to that man. And 193 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: you know, we're humanizing these these characters. I always tell 194 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: people who tried to throw and lump snowfall into the 195 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: box of just a show with guns and false cars 196 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: and chains. No, that's not the story we're telling. What 197 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: we're telling a piece of history. We're educating you as 198 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: well as entertaining you. And you know, a Singleton would say, 199 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: we're giving you a movie every week. Now, Franklin's trying 200 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: to go legit and we know how hard that is 201 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: to do, especially when you have so many things in 202 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: your past that are always going to be catching up 203 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: to you. And having a baby on the way too. 204 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: That's a big deal because you have to do anything 205 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: you can at all means possible to make sure that 206 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you take care of this child that's on the way. 207 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: You've made a commitment to do that with your girlfriend. 208 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this for some reason. I don't 209 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: really trust her, and I know we're only a few 210 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: episodes in. He has bad experiences. Yeah, yeah, for that reason, 211 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is about to happen? Wow? So my 212 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: backstory with Very Nique's character is essentially this um. You 213 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: remember in season three Franklin kind of took the Mosleys 214 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: out of that house. Um. He basically kind of corned 215 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: this old couple out of their bookstore. So he was 216 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: taken to court and the person that was their representative 217 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: was Very Nique, and they won that case, and he 218 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: kind of fell for her and kind of hired her 219 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: on his team and wanted to build with her. Something 220 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: led to another and then boomed. Now they're together. You know, 221 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: the show is this drug trade is a tricky thing. 222 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: Loyalty could could go so quickly when your life is 223 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: on the line, and your life really is on the 224 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: line twenty four seven. So um, yeah, stick with the 225 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: show man. That's all I say. I don't know what 226 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: it is like, Yeah, she's yeah, Keith watching Okay, so 227 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: I might be onto something, you might be alto something 228 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: you might not. You're a producer, so you should be 229 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: able to know what's about to happen. I've seen. All 230 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: I can say is I've seen all episodes. And then 231 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: you killed your friend. Yeah, I felt like, okay, White 232 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Rob right, I feel like that wasn't necessary. But why 233 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: do you think it wasn't necessary? Because people don't agree 234 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: with you? I mean, okay, he was a little sloppy, 235 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: and he was telling your business. He told about the CIA. 236 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but he could have I don't know, that's 237 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: your friend from like when you were young. Franklin's in 238 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: a different place now, you know, he knows what's important. 239 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: What's important is his family and the baby has on 240 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: the way, And I think a lot of people could 241 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: relate to that making horrible decisions. Killing your best friend 242 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: maybe was gonna bring down the hole down the empire. Yeah, 243 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: he would have he would, he would have brought down. 244 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: And I was gonna ask, you know a lot of 245 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: times in real life and not in just movies, you 246 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: see these drug dealers they make enough where they can 247 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: get out, but they can never get out. Yeah, yeah, 248 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: is that what's gonna happen to this character? Like you 249 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: just never get out because you always want to see 250 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: You want to see the you know, what they do 251 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: to the community. You see the money that they make, 252 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: but you kind of want to see them ride off 253 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: from that white horse. But yeah, it's that horse. That's 254 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: the game. Man, that's the game. And that's what we're 255 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: trying to preach to these kids. It's not preach, but 256 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: just let them know, man, it's not worth it. It 257 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: really isn't worth it. That's that's what this show's teaching me. 258 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: You know, as if you really look at this season, 259 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: as much money as Franklin makes, he's not happy. What's 260 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: the point doing something if you know, I act because 261 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: it makes me happy. Correct If it didn't make me happy, 262 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. So I think that's hopefully what 263 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: I hope happens with Franklin, as there's a redemptive quality 264 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: to him. You know, he's done some horrible things. I'm 265 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: hoping by the end of it he realizes that it 266 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: wasn't worth it, and hopefully he can redeem himself in 267 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: some way. You know, you also wanted to help other 268 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: people get out of it and get into a legitimate 269 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: business buying these bills things and investing. But some people 270 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: don't have that foresight, and they're more content with making 271 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: the money that they're making in doing what they do. Yeah, 272 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: and that's disappointing to see, Like you're like, look, five 273 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: years from now, you might not see this money right 274 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: right away, but later on down the line, you'll see 275 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: this investment payoff. And I also feel like people watching 276 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: like to see Franklin still, you know, doing what he's doing. Yeah, 277 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: you know how we're always rooting for the guy even 278 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: though he's not a good guy. Yeah, yeah, we still 279 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: kind of like don't want anything to happen to him. 280 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: I hope that's a testament to how I played the character. 281 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, we always root for these characters 282 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: and we like to empathize with them. But I've honestly 283 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Snowfall fans have said some wild stuff, especially on Twitter life, 284 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: like what like last season when my dad was about 285 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: the you know, he was a black panther and you know, 286 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: he was trying to fight for what's right. And people 287 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we gotta kill Olton in the CIA's 288 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna kill the black pat and I was just like what. 289 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA like dad? And that's that's you know, 290 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: it's an escape watching TV. But sometimes we should sit 291 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: back and you know, I'm pushed. The other day was 292 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: he was saying, don't be a surface level listener. Don't 293 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: be a surface level viewer when you watch shows like this. 294 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna it's out in dead though, because some 295 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: people don't feel like it because we don't see him 296 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: get killed or keep watching the show. Is he like 297 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: a cop over there? No, I mean that happens. Isn't 298 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that people are talking about. It 299 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, you know. But every time he said 300 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: you got to see them, I feel like, Okay, he's alive. 301 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask when it comes to American movies, 302 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes people feel that, you know, actors 303 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: that don't live in America and they take these parts 304 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: that it's a problem. I know when it just elbow 305 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: comes up from some parts. It was like, well, he's 306 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: not American yourself. Do you have a what are your 307 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: thoughts on those things? Man? I think it's a beautiful 308 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: conversation because I think it's going to push us forward. 309 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: And you can't help but acknowledge when a group of 310 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: people feel the type of way. So it's just about listening. Really. 311 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: I will say, I'm an actor. I make believe for 312 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: a living, so the very concept of my job is 313 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: to pretend to be something else. Um well, I do 314 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: want to see though, I want to see more people 315 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: working in America in the UK. You know, I saw 316 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: Tessa Thompson playing a brit in the past and that 317 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: was fire. Denzel just did tragedy at Macbeth, and there's 318 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: examples of people working in the past. So viol is 319 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: about to do a woman king for us where it 320 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: could play the idio. I mean a Denzel played a 321 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: brit And for Queen and country. You know, acting is 322 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: about transformation. I feel like acting who does the best 323 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: job doesn't matter who you are, Like people get caught 324 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: up in you know, let's say you have to pay 325 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: a handicap person and then somebody might say, well, there's 326 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: handicap actors out there that can take that position. But 327 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: in my thing is who does the best job at 328 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: the part. If they're from Britain, if they're from Africa, 329 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whoever does the best jot because you're acting. 330 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: It's a part. Yeah, you know, yeah yeah, and you 331 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: know it's a story. At the end of the day, 332 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: the most important thing is that the story is being told. 333 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Representation is very key. I'm not saying representation isn't key. 334 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: It's very key. But we must realize that so much 335 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: goes into making movies. This is the movie business. It's 336 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: not the movie play. You have to make money, you know. 337 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: And what's happening now is we're giving people opportunities so 338 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: that they can raise their platform. So say you are 339 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: a handicap actor or transject the actor or whatever, you're 340 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: able to raise your platform so that you can be 341 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: in a position to greenlight movies in the future. That's 342 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: what we're working at today in the industry, which I 343 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: think is brilliant. But right now, if a movie's ready, 344 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: and a movie's ready to go now, and you want 345 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: to cast someone and John and for Majors isn't available, 346 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: and the key Stanfield isn't available, and those guys have 347 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: green light power, but this brit actor or this African 348 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: actor has green light power too, and they could get 349 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: bombs on the seat. You're gonna cost that person. That's 350 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: how That's how it works. At the top. I like 351 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: to say, we're playing at the NBA level of acting. 352 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, no shade too, you know, smaller projects. But 353 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: when it gets up there, the field and the net 354 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: is a lot wider and people are from different places. 355 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: It's the same in sports, you know, that's like saying 356 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: Janis shouldn't be playing right because he's he's not. Like 357 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, at that level, and you need to 358 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: work to get to that level. You know, you need 359 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: to put in the ten thousand hours, and so many 360 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: actors have. And what I'm realizing is, you know it's 361 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: the arrow is being thrown at actors who have found success, 362 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: but the reason they found success because they've been working 363 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: for so long absolutely behind it, and you know that 364 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: they're finally at a place where they're able to benefit 365 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: from it. But with me, personally, I'm just here to 366 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: to to do what makes me happy and to make 367 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: my mom proud man, and and I've done those things. 368 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: Everything else is a bonus. Um. I always tell people, 369 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, if you if you don't want to watch 370 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: the circus, you know, buy tickets for another show. You know, 371 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: it's no shade. There's millions of people who love what 372 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: I do. Um, there's millions of people who this is 373 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: a small thing. But you know, this guy's in jail. 374 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Who hit me. I'm like, yo, bro, you got me 375 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: through my sentence. I'm supposed to stop what I'm doing, 376 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: which is why you do it. It's exactly why I 377 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: do it. And you got millions of women who like 378 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: you also, and so oh boy, you don't want to 379 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: ask it to do good? You're good the way you 380 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: get this. You see how she just just go into 381 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: that professionally. How you still taking piano lessons or house? Whoa, 382 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: let's let's break this there. Where were you taking pianos? 383 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: Where do we see him playing piano? I don't know, Juliard, No, 384 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: no playing piano you. I'm just asking. I saw you 385 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: would taking piano lessons or something like that. Oh damn, 386 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: I did see a video of it. Looked like you 387 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: were good with your hands. Oh wow, I don't know. No, no, no, no. UM, 388 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: me and me and that woman. I'm no, no, me 389 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: and that that that queen. Um are just friends. Um 390 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: she's a great guys. I was asking about the piano lessons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 391 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: she's a great piano player. And and I didn't know 392 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: she could play piano. I didn't even think the world knew. 393 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, this is a cool moment. 394 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: I just posted with like people like, you know, I 395 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: don't know if Angel you could play the piano because 396 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm not her actually to learn. I don't know if Taylor, 397 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: who's over here, our producer knows. You know, I don't 398 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: know if she could play the piano. So you know, 399 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: how did you get to Sweetie's house to see that 400 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: she could actually play the piano? Oh no, Um so 401 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: we basically that day. Um so she's a huge Snowfall fan, right, 402 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: and that day we were at lunch, I think, talking 403 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: about how we could collaborate because we actually wanted to 404 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: get before. No, it wasn't a date, says talking about collaborating. 405 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Guys and girls could be friends. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I 406 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: agree with you. That's exactly what me and and dr 407 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: we were friends. Okay, all right, so go ahead, So 408 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: y'all you're on a date eating Oh my god, eating lunch. Yeah. 409 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: But so we're having lunch. Um, and then uh, she 410 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: wanted to show me her new place because I love 411 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: CB two and I was going to give us some 412 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: ideas about furniture and a and then boom we went 413 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: and then she was playing piano. That's it. I was 414 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: in there for like five minutes and dipped out, like 415 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: she's a friend, she's a friend of mine, that's I mean. 416 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: Of course, you guys knew that was going to make 417 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: the Internet go crazy though. Yeah, like people also like 418 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: they would be such a cute couple. Those people. Cute couple, 419 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: I think. But she she yeah, she's But you were 420 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: in a long term relationship prior to that, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 421 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: what happened with that? Oh boy, this is weird? Whoa this? 422 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god? This is what? Um. Um, we're still 423 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: really close, really good friends. Um. I was with her 424 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: for for a very long time. I met her when 425 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old. Um. Who knows, man, who 426 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: knows what could happen in the future. You know, she's 427 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: very much still in my life. We talked like every 428 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: single day. Um. It's so funny. You know, people struggle 429 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: to um keep relationships with their exes. But I am 430 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: at a place in my life now where I everyone 431 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: I meet, I want them to be in my life 432 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: forever because I realized so many people are coming into 433 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: my life, taking my energy, hearing my dreams, hearing my stories, 434 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: and then they're gone and now they're telling that to 435 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: the world. Um, So I want people to stay in 436 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: my life so I can keep that loyalty. And I 437 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: made that decision with her, you know, and I know 438 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: that's a woman that I'm gonna know, um forever. So 439 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: regardless of what happens in my love life, every relationship 440 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: just has to deal with that. Did she call you 441 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: and say, hey, oh word Sweedies piano dot dot dot. 442 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Did you get that text? Yeah? But like like we 443 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: know that's she's She's cool, She's an amazing woman. She's cool. 444 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: She understands. You also talked about that Denzel is your 445 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: idol as far as acting. Oh yeah, so when you 446 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: see I don't, I don't. I don't want mess up 447 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: the young lady's name. But when you see a young 448 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: lady interview in Denzel and she mentioned your name and 449 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: he didn't know who you were, break that down when 450 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: you've seen it and how you felt like you watch 451 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: the TV be like, oh, Denzel and he was like, 452 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: who that is? And then he asked the white guy guy, Oh, 453 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know who that is. No, it 454 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: was it was insane. I saw I was at home, 455 00:24:53,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Um on my phone, she's at your house. Wow, at 456 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: my house? My house by myself. Yeah, by myself, And 457 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: my phone's like blowing up, and it's like a bunch 458 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: of articles and stuff like that, and people are calling 459 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: me and I was like, yo. Then I was like 460 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: talking about you. I'm like, oh my god, this is crazy. 461 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: Like so then, um, yeah, that he didn't know who 462 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: I was and he couldn't address But that was funny though. 463 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: That was funny. But hey, man, like it's a new day, 464 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: you know. Um, it's a new day. And you know 465 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: you could bash uh, you know, get a notoriety through 466 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: social media. I'm not gonna lie, Like, there's a lot 467 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: of my kind of existence has been on that through 468 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: my work and just through just being me. Um. And 469 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: some people from the past still don't respect that. Um, 470 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: But look what social media has done for so many 471 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: people today. We have to start moving in the direction 472 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: of the future. But above all things and all of that, noise, 473 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: Denzel Washington is my idol. He's like a god to me, 474 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: and I will never have anything bad to ever say 475 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: about him. Did you ever get up with him after that? 476 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Did you ever speak? Because I'm sure people tried. I'm 477 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: sure people try to put you out again. I'm sure 478 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: there's people like he knows that you know there was like, no, 479 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm not. I haven't seen him, but I like to 480 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: fantasize that he's at home watching the snowfall. Let me 481 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: find that boy good. Yeah, because of how much people 482 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: talked about it, I'm sure I made him feel like, damn, 483 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: I should know who he is, hopefully because it was 484 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: it was crazy. I will say though, you know, to journalists, 485 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: when you present a new actor or a new musician 486 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: or someone you like, like to some of these these giants, 487 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: please present them in the right way. She presented me 488 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: like I will all day. I'm in my living room 489 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: topless like so He's like, social media is cute, but 490 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: through the work, I'm like ben do but for just 491 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: just to you know, so he knows. I remember when 492 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: little Wayne, We're never asking a little Wayne about new artist, 493 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: a little with Wayne was like, I don't know who 494 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: that is, and people are getting on him like he's 495 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: one of the biggest artst Little Wayne was like, Yo, 496 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm in my own bubble. Yeah, in my own world. Yea. 497 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: And people got on him and it could be the 498 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: same thing. He could be in his own world. And 499 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: like you said, he doesn't know, but I'm sure he 500 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: knows that. I'm sure after this he did his homework. 501 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: He had to. Yeah, man, I would hope so. And 502 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: like I said, man, he he is just fantastic. You know, 503 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: he's a great example of class, could taste prestige. Uh. 504 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: And that's the that's the essence. I've never met before, 505 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: never met him. No, you know what you want to 506 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: say when the first time you meet him, When the 507 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: first time you'd be like, just thank you, just thank you. Now, 508 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: how many seasons you think Snowfall is gonna go for? 509 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: This is my last one? I'm done. I know, I know. 510 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: You know the show is. It's great in a sense, 511 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: it's creating so many opportunities, not just in front of 512 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: the camera, behind the camera. Man, Like, if you look 513 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: at the people who are working on Snowfall, from the 514 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: writers to the directors, to the producers. It's just a 515 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: diverse group of people and it's exactly what this industry 516 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: has been striving for. And that's great to see a 517 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: director like Karina Evans, who I love Karina director Drake's 518 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: God's Plan and she came in and and absolutely killed it. 519 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: I love to see stuff like that, and that's what 520 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: shows like ours are doing for people today. But hey, 521 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: you know the story that there's always an end, stories 522 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, I was thinking about that because you know, 523 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: like Easa ray knew when she wanted to insecure the end, 524 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: and so I'm sure they have an idea in their head. 525 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: And then seeing where you are, your character is right 526 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: now trying to get out of the game, a baby 527 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: on the way, I feel like things are going to 528 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: come to a head really soon, just because as soon 529 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: as you start trying to get out of the game 530 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: making those decisions that you have to make, something yeah, yeah, 531 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: something bad always happens. The animalsity between Franklin's saint and 532 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Teddy McDonald's character is in full effect, and you know 533 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: what happens when when people cross him. I like to 534 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: see your character because you don't really smile and make 535 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: jokes much on the shelf, but flying the plane was 536 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: the one time. Yeah, I felt like we saw him 537 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: like really happy. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, this is 538 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: everything Franklin's worked for, you know, his whole life. He's 539 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: sacrificed and done horrible things to get to this moment um. 540 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna see some joy this season. And 541 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: the fact that he has a baby on the way 542 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: I think is part of that too. Let me think 543 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: it was Ebony that did it. Ebony with two Bees. 544 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: I think she's the one that did the interview. I 545 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: just want to shout her out because I said didn't 546 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: know her name, and as well, Oh yeah, what's next 547 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: for you? What is it? What is some roles that 548 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: you want to do? Wow, it's something that you like. 549 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: I would love to do that role, Like that's my 550 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: dream role? Is it an action figures? Something musical? I 551 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: love playing real people, so I'd love to play Eddie Murphy, 552 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: Sidney Poitier, Fellow COUTI. Um, I'm actually I don't know, 553 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. So do you know who rich Pool is? Yeah? Yeah, 554 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm about play Richpool, really really rich Paul the agent, Yeah, yeah, 555 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I know who rich Poor He has a show something 556 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: about him coming out, or it's in something where Rich 557 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: Paul is a character. No, does he No, I'm asking 558 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: you it's something where he's does he don't. I don't 559 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: think he has a show coming out. But he's a 560 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: really good friend of mine. And there's people behind this 561 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: window like why did you say that? But he called me. 562 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: He was like, tell the world, and I think we should. 563 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: It's time we start cherishing black moguls and Rich is 564 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: someone that people need to know. This guy has completely 565 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: changed the game. I'm happy and fortunate to call him 566 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: a big brother and I can't wait to honor his story. 567 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: That's great. He actually right here approached Lebron and the 568 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: airport selling Jersey his story and that's how they met 569 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: each other. Yeah. Yeah, and now he's like and then 570 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: he's as a black sports agent, he gets looked at 571 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: in a completely different way. The white sports agents were 572 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: so angry that he was able to come in and 573 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: get like the biggest NBA player. Yeah, good story. It's 574 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna be amazing, man. And you should start telling the 575 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: stories now while they were alive, because I just hate 576 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: sometimes when we wait till somebody passes away to tell 577 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: that story. Yeah, like you want to give him their flowers. Now, 578 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: what he's done for, how he's changed, like you said, 579 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: the NBA and the sports agencies is just really amazing. 580 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Remember they try to make it so that 581 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: you had to be um like a certain amount of classes. 582 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you need because and it was really 583 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: based on him. Yeah, and with him to have the power, 584 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: he had completely transformed the game. And it's funny. I 585 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: was at the Super Bowl. I was jumping from sweet 586 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: to sweet um oh yeah yeah. And I was with 587 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 1: him Kevin and Brawn too, And you know, I'm just 588 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: completely inspired by those people. Like I say, I'm fortunate 589 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: to be in some really good circles. Man, I'm learning. 590 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, who have you ever been? Who have you 591 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: met that has had you nervous? Ever? Like it has 592 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: there ever been a time when you were like, I 593 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: can't believe I've been really good man. It's like I've 594 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: met I've met some amazing people. We met Prince and 595 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: we were all, you know, right up here, we were 596 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: all nervous. It's funny, like I'm about to be nervous. 597 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: But they know so much about my work that it's 598 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: like I'm almost not allowed to be nervous anymore. It's 599 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: like I remember when I when I first went to 600 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: the Gold Party, was like Oscar night and Puff like 601 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: introduced me to Hold. That's how I met Hole Puff 602 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: and Puff was like yeah, yeah, Hold, this is Damps 603 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: And then you see like like the new denzil And 604 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh nice to me either then, 605 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: and Hove at the way and Off was like you 606 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: see how you act them right now, like ain't nothing 607 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: a big deal? Yeah? Keep that, keep that so ever 608 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: since then, if I meet anyone and it isn't like 609 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: some some hate of stuff held like I loved them, 610 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: but keep it in, you know, because you know, at 611 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day, like I said, if I 612 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: ever meet Denzel, was just thank you. I'm not asking 613 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: for a picture. I'm asking for advice anything, Just thank you. 614 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: You've already given me everything just through existing. And I 615 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: got to ask you about d Ray Davis's character. A 616 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: man like he's using but not allergies. Wow, No, he's gone. 617 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: He's got a cold, cold time sniffing, he's summer codes man, 618 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: he got allergies, you know, yeahs leave it, oh man, 619 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: all right good. I would try to get a couple 620 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: of spoilers out of you. But I know you're really 621 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: good though, but I think I did well. But we 622 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 1: appreciate you for joining us, brother and never really yes 623 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: with everything. Man, of the fact that you're producing. I 624 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what else you have coming up, 625 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: just because we met you so like a few years ago, 626 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: and I think it's just amazing to see where you 627 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: are and where the show is now and a large 628 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: part of that is because of you. So oh man, 629 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: that means so much. Man, thank you, thank you so 630 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: much for having me. Well, it's Damson address, It's the 631 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning,