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Speaker 2: Parrison dies for the up zone.

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Speaker 3: He's in.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown What a pick at the thirty five yard line

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Speaker 2: by Mac Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Tackle for a Loss by guess who? Collas Campbell.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 4: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 4: Tray McBride.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was nasty right there, right slam the ground

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Speaker 2: by Buddha Baker like a torpedo. He came flying into

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Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right, I get it. It's all about winning games, right,

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Speaker 2: It's not about the press conference. One of us around

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Speaker 2: here is want to assign a win loss record before

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Speaker 2: regular season games even start in September. There is such

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Speaker 2: a thing as winning the off season, says yours truly,

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Speaker 2: and there.

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Speaker 4: Is some Rex Ryan, he said that too true.

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Speaker 2: That's why we give out the Rex Ryan Award, but

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Speaker 2: that's months down the road at the end of the

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Speaker 2: off season. I'd say Mike Lafleur right now is one

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Speaker 2: and zero based on winning the press conference. Who's with

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Speaker 2: me on Cardinals Underground, Paul Calvec, Danny Surrect, Aaron Urban.

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Speaker 4: I just know we have something else to talk about,

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Speaker 4: thank goodness.

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Speaker 2: And right about which you'll do simultaneously in multitask you are.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm getting this ready to write my notes

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Speaker 4: so when as soon as this is over, we can

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Speaker 4: get out the description and post this fine fine podcast.

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Speaker 3: Back on video this week, folks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, speed round off the top initial takeaways. Everyone go,

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Speaker 2: we'll just sort of stick in move staccato, big takeaways.

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Speaker 2: What hit you first and hit your hardest.

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Speaker 3: Authenticity is the word that comes to mind. Look, it's

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Speaker 3: it's the first press conference. You can't ask everything. You're

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Speaker 3: not gonna get all of the answers, mostly because Laflour

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Speaker 3: doesn't even have a staff at the moment. There weren't

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Speaker 3: a lot of cookie cutter answers, and you know that's

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Speaker 3: something that's popular around the league. And I appreciated what

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Speaker 3: felt really authentic and what he's looking for and what

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Speaker 3: his role is going to be. We learned a lot

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Speaker 3: of things. One of the big takeaways is that Leaflour

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Speaker 3: is going to call plays for the offense, something he

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Speaker 3: didn't do in LA but missed and learned a lot

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Speaker 3: from Sean McVay, something that he did do as an

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Speaker 3: And there were a lot of players and coaches and attendance,

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Speaker 3: I mean a long list, but off the top, I

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Speaker 3: mean Paris Johnson Junior was there, Mac Wilson senior, Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 3: with the Cardinals. I appreciated to that you got some

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Speaker 3: details else out of some of the answers. And when

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Speaker 3: something that Laflores learned from McVeigh and from Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 3: he comes from both coaching trees is the importance of

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Speaker 3: getting the play call out quickly and everybody being clean

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Speaker 3: and sharp and on the same page. And again that

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Speaker 4: Going off of what Danny said real quick, like mac

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Speaker 4: Wilson flew in. He heard about when the press conference

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Speaker 4: was and he flew in from Texas. So that's that's impressive.

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Speaker 4: And again, not all the players are going to be here.

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Speaker 4: People had other things going on, they had previous commitments.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you look down on players that weren't

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Speaker 4: And he did note that. I think authenticity is definitely

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Speaker 4: something that I that I noticed with this guy. He uh,

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Speaker 4: but you when you heard him, you got the feeling like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't dismiss that, No, because you

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Speaker 2: bunch of alpha males. We're wondering, what is this guy

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Speaker 4: No, And I think I think him being able to

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Speaker 4: do that, him making the point like I can't get

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Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing, but I can't wait to get started. And

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Speaker 4: it's because of you guys, talking to the guys in

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Speaker 4: I like the vibe. And I will say, and again,

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Speaker 4: we don't know anything. We don't know what any of

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Speaker 4: this is gonna look like. We don't know what his

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Speaker 4: coaching staff's going to look like, we don't know what

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Speaker 4: like the idea when he was talking about and again

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Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said, I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 4: I'm the right choice. I hope I'm the right choice.

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Speaker 4: I like that self awareness. I like that he's not

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Speaker 4: Or Danny Green tapping the uh the the plasterboard with

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Speaker 4: the all the records of active head coaches. H you

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Speaker 4: remember that back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Paul, that was before Google.

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Speaker 4: Instead of Google, we had the media relations staff put

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Speaker 4: together this fine presentation. I like that there was that

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Speaker 4: and I'll be honest. The other thing I really liked.

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Speaker 4: I loved the idea that he's got a brother who's

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Speaker 4: an NFL head coach that was willing to come all

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Speaker 4: the way out to Arizona to to be part of this.

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Speaker 4: Now is is Matt Lafleur in the middle of a

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Speaker 2: Yes, does he have plans to go to the Phoenix Open?

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Speaker 2: According to his brother Michael before yes, okay, who then

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Speaker 4: And you know there's look, there's been it's been it's

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Speaker 4: something that we would all like to see how it

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Speaker 2: For sure, Yes, it was, you know, the front row

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Speaker 2: And then his brother said, well, we should, you know,

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Speaker 4: Now, I would like to put a caveat on that.

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Speaker 4: That was Jonathan Gannon two at from the first day.

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Speaker 4: It's about the players. We're here to serve the players.

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Speaker 4: We've heard that before. Now maybe in different words, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying there's anything groundbreaking or he's redefining

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Speaker 2: He was noteworthy to me his story about COVID in

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty season and what's remarkable and I wanted

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Speaker 3: Well, that was one of two stories along that same line.

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Speaker 2: I mean talk about speaking it into existence. There was

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Speaker 3: Adaptability. That was a talking point when talking about the

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Speaker 4: I want to go back to something else. You just

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Speaker 4: if you go talk to Clint Kubiak and this thing,

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Speaker 2: Well, and at that point too, I mean, the reality

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Speaker 3: Why'd you look at me?

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Speaker 4: I looked at you at the end. I was waiting

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Speaker 2: He said it all, Okay, we're not sort of like

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Speaker 3: You're saying, that's what he really feels in the game

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Speaker 4: We talked about missing it and it was funny because, uh,

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Speaker 4: I'd like, okay because you could tell, and asked Mike

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Speaker 2: that's great news. I mean, I am already The thing

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Speaker 4: I saw it was funny he talked about the only

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Speaker 3: That was also mentioned by Lafleur on wanting to call

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Speaker 2: Did Kurt share with Matt Lafleur his story of getting

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Speaker 4: Yes, before we get into the defensive cordnerator, I'm because

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Speaker 3: And about a defensive corinator, not specifically hiring someone based

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up. Well, thank you, Paul,

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Speaker 4: Is this where you're going to the DC? This is

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Speaker 2: Gonna get into the DC. But before we get there,

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Speaker 2: today throughout the name Wink Martindale, longtime Giants defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: who recent Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Very talented game show host.

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Speaker 2: No, it's his real name is Don Martindale, but it's

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Speaker 2: a joke. They call him Wink because of the game

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Speaker 2: show host.

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Speaker 4: That's disappointing.

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Speaker 2: So just I watched them.

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Speaker 4: I watched a lot of Wink Martindale growing up. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: sick at school. You know, Bob Barker, he's another one.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's a very good defensive coordinator though.

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Speaker 4: Bob Barker, well, he's no longer with us, so he

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Speaker 4: definitely wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: He had a good heart, He had a good straight

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Speaker 2: right though. Just ask Happy Gilmore.

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Speaker 4: We have driven right off the road. Got anything you

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Speaker 4: want to.

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Speaker 3: Throw in here, Danny, I mean I could wait till

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Speaker 3: the end. I don't want to throw Paul off.

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Speaker 2: No, so I don't have anything else. As far as

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator goes, well, you mentioned Gus Bradley.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of reporting that the Cardinals were

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Speaker 4: in on him before he took the job. With the Titans.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that I was interested in on

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Speaker 4: the on the reporting that even though Gus Bradley chose

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Speaker 4: to go with Robert Sala and the Titans, was that allegedly,

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Speaker 4: not only would Gus Bradley have been calling the defensive

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Speaker 4: plays here in Arizona, which he will not do in

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Speaker 4: Tennessee because Robert sala is going to do it, but

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Speaker 4: apparently the Cardinals offered more money.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: So wow, I And obviously you're disappointed you can't get

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Speaker 4: a guy that you're looking for reportedly, But I will

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Speaker 4: say for a lot of people that have brought up

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Speaker 4: like what are the Cardinals willing to spend in terms

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Speaker 4: of assistant coaches? Like, I think that's a good sign, right.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. You know, if Gus Bradley has

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Speaker 2: designs being a head coach again, maybe he's just thinking,

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Speaker 2: all right, where do I have a better chance to win?

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Speaker 2: Maybe he looks at the division Shanahan McVeigh and the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks and you're like, wow, do I really want to

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Speaker 2: put my name on the defense going against those teams

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Speaker 2: six times a year versus the AFC South? Right, So

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just that's the first time I

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Speaker 2: heard that. That's my initial reaction to that. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: that is a huge question right now. And how vital

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Speaker 2: if it all is to get a ideally a defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator who maybe, just maybe was a former NFL head coach.

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Speaker 2: Is there going to be anyone who could be a

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Speaker 2: go to person with a lot of experience for first

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Speaker 2: year head coach Michae Laflora.

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Speaker 4: Well, I did ask a question of whether he in

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Speaker 4: the press conference. I asked whether he needed coordinators with

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Speaker 4: some experience. Is that something you're targeting? And he basically

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Speaker 4: said no. He didn't rule it out obviously, but his

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Speaker 4: point was like, I'm not going to rule out a

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Speaker 4: good candidate just because of that aspect.

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Speaker 2: It was also interesting in the radio interview he talked

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Speaker 2: about and this is something to him McVeigh would discuss

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Speaker 2: every off season. Look, we got to stay ahead, you know, schematically.

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Speaker 2: If you don't stay ahead, if you don't evolve, if

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Speaker 2: you don't improve every off season, it's over quote unquote

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Speaker 2: that was Micha Lafleur. And you know what, it makes

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Speaker 2: sense rams how many times do your offensive coaches say

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Speaker 2: every week they are watching Sean mcvay's film because of

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Speaker 2: the innovation what is he busting out this week? And

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury used to rave about it. In addition to

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Speaker 2: watching you know and watching a Hugh Freeze with Liberty

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Speaker 2: you know here Cliff would watch all these crazy you know,

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Speaker 2: offensive mines from didn't matter what level of football. But

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Speaker 2: that's intriguing as well, especially as a younger guy who

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Speaker 2: study under Shannana McVeigh. You know, I think you could argue,

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Speaker 2: could argue this is subjective, no facts, just an observation,

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Speaker 2: but did the Cardinals offense in twenty twenty five evolve?

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Speaker 2: If you remember the first month of the season when

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Speaker 2: the run game, albeit still mostly healthy in terms offensive

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Speaker 2: linemen and running backs, wasn't getting traction. It didn't look

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Speaker 2: the same, didn't have the same effectiveness. Did the opposition adjust?

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Speaker 2: Did you need to adjust to the adjustment? And you

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Speaker 2: never did?

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Speaker 3: You could argue later in the season they did because

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Speaker 3: they had no choice. They were down to their fifth

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Speaker 3: and sixth running backs. So the Cardinals did adjust to

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Speaker 3: become a pass first offense again, though that was a

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Speaker 3: decimated offensive line, a decimated running backs room, playing a

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Speaker 3: backup quarterback to Kobe Brissett, and thankfully Michael Wilson bopped

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Speaker 3: off and you got Trey McBride opposite to him as

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Speaker 3: the number one tight end in the NFL. That is

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Speaker 3: a good point, though, is you know, learning from McVeigh,

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Speaker 3: someone who is known for being innovative and and those

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Speaker 3: are important lessons to learn as you come up in

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Speaker 3: your career. And that's something that Leafloor's learned. Shanahan is

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Speaker 3: the same way. It doesn't matter who he has on

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Speaker 3: the field. Forty nine ers are a tough team to

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Speaker 3: go against. So those are things that you hope that

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Speaker 3: can be transferred from what laflor has learned over the years.

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Speaker 2: Now in charge, because I'm a glutton for punishment, I

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Speaker 2: like to challenge Aq and talk offensive line as poly

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Speaker 2: pencilnick and lose. I lose consistently, but you know I

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Speaker 2: like to rile them up a little bit, poke the bear.

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Speaker 2: And more than once this past season, I said, wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, on paper, look at the Rams offensive line.

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Speaker 2: They Kevin Dotson a right guard, and what else Niners

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Speaker 2: have Trent Williams of left tackle, Name one another guy. Now,

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Speaker 2: AQ Shipley makes a living on offensive line. He names

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Speaker 2: every guy but no one else could name a guy

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Speaker 2: in those two offensive lines. My point, My point is

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Speaker 2: that something was happening with the scheme, with the coaching,

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Speaker 2: with those two teams. The Rams had two running backs

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Speaker 2: who combined for nearly two thousand rushing yards, and Karen

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Speaker 2: Williams and Blake Kor. Blake Korm was a Day two pick,

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Speaker 2: a Day three pick. Karen Williams was a Day two

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Speaker 2: pick once upon a time. Now he's been a second

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Speaker 2: team All Pro a couple of times. Shout out to

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Speaker 2: Les Sneid, that was a heck of a draft pick

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Speaker 2: once upon a time by the Rams. But again to me,

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Speaker 2: the Niners in the Rams, and we know this better

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Speaker 2: than anyone because we play him twice a year. Really,

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Speaker 2: to me, their offensive start with a really potent run game.

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Speaker 2: For everything they do in the past game, it's all

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Speaker 2: set up by play action and everything else. And it's

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Speaker 2: not like they have a ton of weapons in the

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Speaker 2: run game, the Rams in particular, to me, but they

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Speaker 2: always find a way to average five yards of carry

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Speaker 2: whenever you play them. So I guess that's my point

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Speaker 2: of saying, I am curious. In addition everything else, what

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Speaker 2: Mike Laflora is gonna do with the run game, because

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Speaker 2: who knows who's going to be toting the rock this year?

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Speaker 4: Well a Q Shipley. AQ Shipley has been on record

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Speaker 4: saying that scheme can do as much for a run

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Speaker 4: game as the offensive line itself. And we've talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about whether the offensive line is going to be

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Speaker 4: overhauled and who's going to be in there, and I

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Speaker 4: do think they're going to address that. I don't think

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Speaker 4: there's any question about it. But what does that mean? Again?

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Speaker 4: Some of this is going to be hard to get

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Speaker 4: at right now because we don't know who the offensive

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Speaker 4: line coach is going to be for sure. We don't

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Speaker 4: know who the offensive coordinator is going to be and

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Speaker 4: what role he'll play and building that run game and

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Speaker 4: when it comes to the floor and other things will

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Speaker 4: to be an offensive coordinator and a run game coordinator,

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Speaker 4: Like all these things, I will say, I do think.

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Speaker 4: I do think Blake Korm and Kyra and Williams have

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Speaker 4: turned into a couple of pretty good backs. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's you're just taking ham and eggers necessarily and

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Speaker 4: gaining those many yards, But you know, what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Where does it go. I think every in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: every offense that's really good, even throwing the ball, can

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Speaker 4: run the ball. I just I just think it's obvious

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Speaker 4: at this point. Now, you may not have the all

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Speaker 4: star running back, not every team has Bijon Robinson, let's say,

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Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean you can't be super effective running

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Speaker 4: the ball. And again we're talking about teams that run

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Speaker 4: the ball a lot of times and they're not getting

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Speaker 4: a boost from their quarterback, which I know, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: we'll talk about the quarterback at some point, but like

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Speaker 4: the Rams are not getting any running yards for Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's a, as the kids like to say,

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Speaker 4: an ethical running game these days when it comes to

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Speaker 4: the Rams.

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Speaker 2: I see, okay, all right, So defensive coordinator is a

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Speaker 2: top question offensive line coach, do we agree? Second most

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Speaker 2: important question, O line coach, slash run game coordinator, because

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Speaker 2: you know the floor is gonna have the passing game handle,

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Speaker 2: I would say. And then after that it keeps coming back. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: Now the quarterback question, Paul, Yeah, so did that question

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Speaker 2: come up in the TV studio? We were not in there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about, you know, the qualities that

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Speaker 3: he's looking for in a quarterback, and like most head

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Speaker 3: coaches want someone who's gonna be tough and you got

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Speaker 3: to be able to stay in the pocket and sustain

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Speaker 3: some hits that there's no secret of. There's not a

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Speaker 3: coach in the NFL who wouldn't want those things. That's

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Speaker 3: a big question mark, though, and that's not something that

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Speaker 3: Laflora is gonna have an answer for on day one,

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Speaker 3: especially without having a staff. But you know that those

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Speaker 3: conversations have been had throughout this process. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: was General Man Germany Austen for it, who said a

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Speaker 3: month ago that everything's on the table. That could mean

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Speaker 3: that Kyler Murray's future is still in Arizona. That would

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Speaker 3: include everything being on the table. You know, he has

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Speaker 3: a lot of qualities that I'm sure as an offensive

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Speaker 3: minded head coach, Laflora is just his mind is constantly

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Speaker 3: going on what he can do with all of his

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Speaker 3: new weapons.

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Speaker 2: So to the media in the press conference, he said

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Speaker 2: that there was a he reached out to Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 2: there was a message, right, and then on the radio side,

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Speaker 2: he elaborated a little bit more about Kyler, saying, I

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Speaker 2: don't need to turn on the tape. I've seen plenty

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Speaker 2: of them. I know, quote he's a problem end quote,

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Speaker 2: he's a good player in this league. As for any

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Speaker 2: sort of answers, nada.

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Speaker 4: Well, he and he was later on with Arizona Sports

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Speaker 4: and they ask him directly if Kyler was going to

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Speaker 4: be the quarterback and he's like, I'm not prepared to

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Speaker 4: answer that right now, which is understandable. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: at one point when he was his kind of opening monologue,

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Speaker 4: I guess he kind of talked about how he was

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Speaker 4: looking forward to like getting started on everything, and he

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Speaker 4: really go I mean, you show up last night with

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Speaker 4: your family, you go over to the owner's house to

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Speaker 4: kind of be welcome there. Now, he did say he

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Speaker 4: talked a little football there, but I'm sure there was

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Speaker 4: not a ton that night. And then you show up

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Speaker 4: this morning and all you're doing is meeting people you've

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Speaker 4: never really met, or you haven't met a lot or

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Speaker 4: talked to a lot who you're going to be working

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Speaker 4: with every day now. And then you've got all these

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Speaker 4: media obligations at that point, so yeah, you're not going

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Speaker 4: to have let's put it this way. When he's going

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Speaker 4: through the interview, process. There is a plan at quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He and Monty and the owner are all on the

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Speaker 4: same page on the direction they want to go to quarterback.

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Speaker 4: They clearly probably aren't going to talk a lot about

651
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Speaker 4: it right now, but I think they already have an

652
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: idea of a general direction. Now what does that mean

653
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: in terms of personnel. I don't know if they've come

654
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: to that conclusion quite yet, but you know, there's got

655
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: to be a plan, because otherwise why are you hiring

656
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: the guy?

657
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: So in the absence the absence of information, what do

658
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: we get speculation? And some of us just have to

659
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: step up and fill the void. So here we go,

660
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: break out your ovin Mitt. You guys ready for a

661
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: hot take.

662
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: I was waiting to see if we'd get one today.

663
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: Paul was not sure.

664
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: I do know it was appropriate. You know, he's wearing

665
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: the power blazer.

666
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: Look, there was a press conference day. I didn't Danny's

667
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: all dressed up. I felt like I didn't even get

668
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: dressed up. That's true.

669
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: Amazing, It's amazing. Is Darren is so fired up and

670
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't see any coffee, So this is just natural adrenaline.

671
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 4: I had the coffee earlier when I was talking to

672
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner and Mala Floor.

673
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so I.

674
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: Heard you were talking to Kurt Warner. Actually, that's actually

675
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: been going around the grape vine.

676
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: So because I'm telling everybody, so the oven mit comes out.

677
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: Because I'm going to speculate on the next quarterback of

678
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. I'm nervous someone who goes back a

679
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: long way with Mike Lafleur, both in San Francisco, going

680
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: to a super Bowl together.

681
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: Oh no, I think I know what you're going to say.

682
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: Once upon a time. In his very first start in

683
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: the NFL Week one, twenty sixteen, Williams he engineered a

684
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: win against the Arizona Cardinals, which Bruce Arians later blamed

685
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: the outcome of what was a disappointing season on Week

686
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: one itself. Jimmy Garoppolo has been the backup quarterback for

687
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: the Rams here as of late. He his initials right

688
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: now are UFA unrestricted free agent.

689
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: Well, not quite.

690
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: In March March his initials well, RJG.

691
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: But work with me, work with me a little bit.

692
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Come the new league year, he'll be an unrestricted free agent,

693
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: presuming presuming they don't come to terms. And he made

694
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: about three million plus last year for the Rams. So

695
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: what are the odds? Dot dot dot Now he is

696
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: a year older than Jacoby Brissett, and as Craig griolou

697
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: tried to blow my take out of the water, as

698
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: he's wont to do so well, what exactly is the

699
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: difference between hanging out to Jacoby Brissett and adding Jimmy

700
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: Garoppolo for which I didn't have a really good answer

701
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: other than familiarity, other than some coaches like to come

702
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: in and they have their system, or at least the

703
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: way they want to run their system, and they're really

704
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: comfortable with a certain quarterback as being the player coach

705
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: of the system. Hashtag Drew Stanton with Bruce Arians once

706
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: upon a time, just saying, now, Jacoby Brissett's under contract

707
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 2: for another year or so, I'm kind of talking myself

708
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: out of my own hot take. But Jimmy g I mean,

709
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: in the absence of Kyla Murray in a really weak

710
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: quarterback draft, if you want to force slash Waist to

711
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: pick on a you know, young quarterback, even the top

712
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: a round two or top around three, could you have

713
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: a pairing of Jacoby Brissett and Jimmy g We were.

714
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: Told everything is on the table, so everything is going

715
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: to be on the table. You know what, once a

716
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: decision either way is made, which you know, we should

717
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: have an idea in the next month or so, once

718
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: the newly year starts. If it is Jacoby Brissett, when

719
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: he was starting at the end of the year, this

720
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: offensive line was decimated, the running backs room was decimated,

721
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: it'll be a discussion of how different things can and

722
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: should look with a healthy O line and running backs.

723
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: Ifsett is the quarterback next year.

724
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Because once again, no offense threw more pass attempts than

725
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. No offense attempted less runs than the

726
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. It was historically lopsided.

727
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: Surprise Tommy John surgery after the season.

728
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: That's right.

729
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean even the starting center yelled a Froholt might

730
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: add some elbow issues from all the shotgun snaps. Uh

731
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: you know that went? Uh so, yeah, that's a big

732
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: question right there. What else am I missing from the

733
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: big picture? Other than than Darren talking with Kurt Warner?

734
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: Did Kurt bring up anything, Darren, did you want to

735
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: share anything else that Kurt Warner brought up? No?

736
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: I think I will keep that under wraps. It was

737
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: a personal well.

738
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh really, okay, so it was a high level, classified

739
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: conversation as well.

740
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: But I was drinking coffee at the time, which is

741
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: why I don't have one.

742
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: Now, I see, Okay, So yeah, I'm looking here at

743
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: what else stood out from you know, look, I thought

744
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: he did a really good job in front of the media,

745
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: having never been a head coach before. But then I

746
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: reminded myself, well, he spent two years meeting the New

747
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: York media, that's true. And when things got really sideways

748
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: the second half of his second season, they were seven

749
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: and four and then the bottom fell out. And if

750
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: you go look at it, there are a lot of

751
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: similarities to what happened in the Arizona Cardinals. They were the

752
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: most injured team in the league. They had basically a

753
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 2: shell of an offensive line.

754
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: Four quarterbacks. Yeah, at one point.

755
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, Mike White, and a bunch of.

756
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 4: Other White was Mike White renaissance.

757
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: So if you go back and look at that, Joe Flacco,

758
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: I mean, it has Richard Todd. It hasn't been all

759
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: rainbows in NFC championships with Kyle Shannon and Sean McVay.

760
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he endured a lot of adversity those two

761
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: years with the Jets. And you notice when he talked

762
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: about he knows what a good building looks like and

763
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: when the GM and the head coach are aligned, and

764
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: he mentioned Less Sneed and Sean McVay. He mentioned John

765
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: Lynch and Kyle Shannon. I think it was noteworthy that

766
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: he left out the Jets in every single example.

767
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: He picked up what he was thrown down.

768
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: He never mentioned the Jets within the confines of the

769
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: RAMS and the Niners and the DNA and sort of

770
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: the organizational way in which they operate. So I thought

771
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: that was that was definitely interesting. The other thing I

772
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: took away and I bolded was getting ready for the

773
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: Cardinals in Week fourteen, and yes, we've gone back to

774
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: that game a couple of times. He cited how Matthew

775
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: Stafford came into his office getting ready for the Cardinals.

776
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: And obviously I could do is look at a team's

777
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: record at that point, and it can be easy to

778
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: dismiss an opponent, and for Matthew Stafford to come in

779
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: and sort of, you know, say to anybody rhetorically, hey

780
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: these guys can play, because Stafford more than once in

781
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, has actually, you know, expressed

782
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: some respect for the Cardinals defense. Now wasn't much of

783
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: a challenge this year for a variety of reasons. But

784
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, obviously Cardinals had their way in

785
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: the first game, and then they were the helmet to

786
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: flex away from completing a sweep of the Rams just

787
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: two years ago.

788
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: And through the first half of last season, I mean

789
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: that the Cardinals were in it in close games. That's

790
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: what we were talking about week after week, is being

791
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: in it until the very final drive. Now, by the

792
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: time the Cardinals face the Rams late in the season,

793
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: a bit of a different story for a list of reasons.

794
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, that defense made an impression on not just Stafford,

795
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 3: but on the floor as well.

796
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: All right, so travel plans, let's see here front burner, Darren,

797
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: You're going to the Bay Area for the Super Bowl?

798
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: Yes, I am so.

799
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: Instead of you know, hob nobbing with one Hall of

800
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: Famer by the name of Kurrt Warner, it'll be soon

801
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: to be Hall of Famer Larry Fitzgerald.

802
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: Fingers crossed, fingers crossed, Well know, Thursday night, if Larry

803
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: is getting in, but I would feel you gotta feel confident, right, Paul,

804
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: I would. So there's been a lot of conversation over

805
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks over who's getting in on

806
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: a first ballot Hall of Fame.

807
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: So well we know who's not.

808
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: We certainly don't want to We don't want to count

809
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 4: any Dickens prior to hatchation.

810
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick.

811
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah there, look there there There are certain polarizing sports figures.

812
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: Barry Bonds as long as you're going to the Bay Area, right,

813
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: and and and devils. But if there's one thing we

814
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: can say about Fits, I'm not sure there was a

815
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: single media member he ever made an enemy of. Not

816
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean honestly, I mean think about it. His dad

817
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: was in the media.

818
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: Like name somebody he made an enemy up. Period. He

819
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: could have blown up Richard Sherman that one time, Paul,

820
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 4: and he didn't.

821
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're right, And and he refused to

822
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: engage Richard Sherman in the reindeer games of trash talking,

823
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: and which really infuriated Richard Sherman even more because there's

824
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: nothing he could do to tweak Larry and go to

825
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: him into distracting him from his game.

826
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 4: That's also true.

827
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: So there's that, okay, so, and then there's the possibility,

828
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: of course, then you guys are going to the Combine,

829
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 2: and then there's the possibility of an international game.

830
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: Perhaps maybe many possibilities there are.

831
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Break it down, Danny, So, because Mexico City was added, yes.

832
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: Could be yes. And the other cities are Melbourne, Rio, Munich,

833
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: three games in London, slash UK, Madrid, and Paris. So

834
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: the Saints are going to host a game in Paris, France,

835
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: and the Cardinals play the Saints on the road season.

836
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: So if we're already crossing our fingers for fits.

837
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 4: We will ignore the fact that there's some relatively large

838
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: French outlet that's reporting that it's going to be the Browns.

839
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: I did see that.

840
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know if trying to grow the game internationally,

841
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: the Browns are who you want to represent. I guess

842
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: you did, rubble quarterback.

843
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna let that go. I mean, we're going to

844
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: move on from that point. I did hear also that

845
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: Ireland still could be in the mix for so that

846
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: would be what ten if Ireland was in there, because

847
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: it's eight here, yep, plus Mexico is nine and then

848
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 4: Ireland would be ten.

849
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: Now.

850
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if Ireland gets another one or if

851
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 4: the Paris knocks it off this year.

852
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: But we're getting close to the sixteen international voys per

853
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: season that Roger Goodell envisions.

854
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be hard to It would be

855
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: hard to imagine, you know, them not wanting maybe a

856
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: Cardinals Cowboys matchup of Mexico city of two organizations that

857
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 3: have marketing rights and have a very large fan base

858
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 3: down there.

859
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: We've been to Mexico before, Okay either?

860
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: Or would you rather go to Paris or Melbourne, Australia

861
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: because the Rams are hosting in Australia that could be

862
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: on the.

863
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: Radar look as a as someone who works for an

864
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: NFL team, I'm fine with either. On a personal note,

865
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: if I am flying across the globe to Australia, I

866
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: would love for it to be on the Cardinals plane

867
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: as opposed to a commercial flight. So if we're already

868
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: going over there, I'd be okay with Australia.

869
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: Here here on, I'm not going to complain either way.

870
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: I've been lucky enough to be go to Paris once already.

871
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: I've never been to Australia, so that would be kind

872
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 4: of cool. But again, I will go where the schedule

873
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: takes us, Paul, and so if that's it's that's Paris,

874
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 4: if that's Mexico City, wherever we need to go. I

875
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: do think it's interesting before with all this going on today,

876
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: the NFLPA had their press conference or annual Super Bowl

877
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 4: press conference, and the eighteenth game came up, and there's

878
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 4: a lot of discussion that the eighteenth game is where

879
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 4: this NFL wants to dovetail every team having an international game.

880
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: I remember going to some NFL meetings at least a

881
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: decade ago. Ironically, it was in Santa Clara, and we

882
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: are at a restaurant that's built into the Levi Stadium

883
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 4: for this mixer or whatever, and I ended up talking

884
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: to some guy at the time, I don't know if

885
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: he's still there, that was working in the NFL international

886
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: realm for the league, and I remember him telling me

887
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: at the time it would be excellent because at that

888
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: time there were not seventeen games. There were sixteen that

889
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: the NFL was thinking about going to seventeen games, and

890
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: then everybody would have eight home games, eight road games,

891
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 4: and one international game, and then it would balance out.

892
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 4: I don't know why you just can't do that. Now

893
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: I know why they want the eighteenth game. There's a

894
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 4: whole different deal. They're going, Oh yeah, but seventeen games

895
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 4: with every team having an international game just balances out

896
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: really well.

897
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, more inventory, more TV contracts, more billions.

898
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 4: The other thing I liked about this guy's idea. Now,

899
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to happen because they're finding

900
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: all these international places to play, But at the time

901
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: they were talking, one of the things he was said

902
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: they were batting around was you would have so you'd

903
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 4: have sixteen international sixteen games that aren't home or away

904
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: or aren't home games for regular NFL teams, so you'd

905
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: have eight international games. And then they put eight games

906
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: in like college towns Lincoln, Nebraska and Arbor, Michigan. Now,

907
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: I don't think in today's college realm you would think

908
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 4: that would go very well.

909
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, the college game is already triggered enough by

910
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: scheduling Saturday NFL games, so you're already cannibalizing a lot

911
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: of the and and and college wants to expand its playoffs,

912
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: and they did, and then a couple of times it

913
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: went against the NFL didn't work out so well for them,

914
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: by the way, speaking to the Super Bowl in Santa Clara,

915
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: I have to say I laughed a hardy laugh when

916
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: I saw.

917
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: Them go ahead and do that hardy laugh if you want.

918
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: They had done the NFL Media Center at the Moscone Center.

919
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then.

920
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: The media event that night at the mcinery Center. Okay,

921
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: Tom mcinary, I was to screw up his name. He's

922
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: the former mayor of San Jose. That's the convention Center

923
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: in San Jose. That's a two hour commute at the

924
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 2: very least.

925
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: Well, what were they doing to the media?

926
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: Why would they schedule one in San Francisco in the

927
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: San Jose.

928
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: First of all, we know the San Jose Convention Center

929
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: very well because our hotel is essentially connected to it

930
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: when we go to the on the forty nine ers

931
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: road trip. I don't know. I don't know why that

932
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: would be other than they just they couldn't find a

933
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: spot to do it, because again, that media day, that

934
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: media night is supposed to not only have media, but

935
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 4: they also let fans in. Now I guess there they

936
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: couldn't take it. Isn't isn't the were the Warriors playing home, Like,

937
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 4: couldn't they do it at the Warriors facility. I don't

938
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: know what the NBA schedule wants.

939
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: No idea. I have no idea. But getting back to Australia,

940
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: here's uh, Danielle.

941
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: I've never been there. Policy I go back.

942
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

943
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: We're getting cultured. Here's my famous or my favorite story

944
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: of the week. Here's the headline. Some guy wins the

945
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: Tour down Under bike race after a crash caused wait

946
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: for it, by a kangaroo. And apparently this is a

947
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: real problem. The kangaroos love to jump out into traffic

948
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: when they have these professional bike ras where they're doing

949
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: thirty plus miles per hour in the peloton, and kangaroos

950
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: will come out. Kangaroos wiped out a half dozen professionals.

951
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: They're not the nicest animals.

952
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: No, So this guy's quoted after winning saying, everyone asked

953
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: me what's the most dangerous thing in Australia And I

954
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: always tell them it's the kangaroos. They wait and they

955
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: hide in the bushes until you can't stop, and they

956
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: jump out in front of you. Point proven today because

957
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: this guy took a full blown a head.

958
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: They are they trying to rob him as what exactly

959
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: are they stopping these bicyclists for.

960
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: In this case, for sport. So in this case they

961
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: said two of them blasted right through the peloton when

962
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: and they said they literally get out in zigzag in

963
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: front of the bikers. This guy gave up play by play,

964
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: He goes the kangaroo went left right, left, right, left, right,

965
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: and then I ended up hitting his backside, flipped over

966
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: and unfortunately there was a kangaroo's injured and had to

967
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: be taken to the locals.

968
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, Okay, if you're gonna go play

969
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: in traffic, you don't get to complain about being injured,

970
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 4: mister kangaroo.

971
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: So it's always a disclaimer. There were no animals hurt

972
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: in the filming of this movie. Well, unfortunately during this

973
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: bike race the tour down Under, yes, Kangaroo did end

974
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: up on the injured list.

975
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: I was sure that Kangaroo wasn't suicidal in some way.

976
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: You want to talk about injury list, and we were

977
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: talking about manifestation earlier, Well, Paul got his wish.

978
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: Here we go.

979
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were manifesting Lindsey Vaughan's injury member.

980
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: When you.

981
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: Still competing. We didn't have getting culture, but I couldn't

982
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: let us go through this episode without it. You were

983
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: complaining that she had not given up her Olympic dreams,

984
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: of her burning. She had a nasty injury a couple

985
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: of days ago, and I saw Tuesday morning she had

986
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: reportedly ruptured her acl but will still compete at the Olympics.

987
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: Okay, that proves my point. That proves my point.

988
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 3: I help you're happy.

989
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 2: First off, I wish no ill will on anyone except

990
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: the twelves who don't deserve a super Bowl victory. So

991
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: that's why I'm going with the Patriots on Sunday. This

992
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: all started because I had the Pauli Powerpole of sports

993
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: figures that I'm so done with, and I called it

994
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: up right here to refresh my own memory. Over here,

995
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, Ryan Clark, Carl Cheffer's the fact that we

996
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: know we know Carl Cheffer's name is a problem. The

997
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: fact that Carl is on a first name basis with

998
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: NFL fans. I don't know if he's getting paid by

999
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: Flag this year or what. And then on the watch list,

1000
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: we had Ben Johnson for taking his shirt off, Sam

1001
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: Levitt because he's right there with Lane Kiffin at LSU,

1002
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: and then the other one we threw on there was

1003
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: Lindsay Vaughn, who were in her forties. She's still trying

1004
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: to compete in the downhill. I mean even every four

1005
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: years it gets to be a little much. So we're

1006
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: not wishing Ill will, but the fact that she's going

1007
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: to try and still compete with a leg breaks and

1008
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: a fully blown ACL. Okay, for what reason exactly? You're

1009
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: already highly decorated. Okay, as an Olympian.

1010
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sit here and say this. I While I

1011
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: love the storyline of people going off with a storybook finish,

1012
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 4: I've always been somebody who says, if the athlete wants

1013
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: to be out there until the wheels fall off or

1014
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 4: in this case a leg.

1015
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: Oh geez, how about a ski just say a ski.

1016
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 4: Y, you whatever. I have a hard time saying if

1017
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna let you do it, you can't do it,

1018
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 4: like the people saying why doesn't Lebron just retire? Well,

1019
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 4: first of all, he's still averaging twenty five points a game.

1020
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 4: But but other than that, like, who are we to

1021
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: say you should stop?

1022
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: Here's the problem that I have and it's a free country.

1023
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 2: You can play as long as you want, you can

1024
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: make yourself look as bad as you want.

1025
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 4: It's still a free country.

1026
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: What happens is that's a different podcast, is there's a

1027
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: vacuum of media coverage that is sucked up by Lebron

1028
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: or Lensy von. So when when Lindsay Vonn was a

1029
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: twenty something up and coming phenom, it's you know, she

1030
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: would have gotten no media coverage if there would have

1031
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: been a forty year old Lindsay van taking all the spotlight,

1032
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: just like Lebron takes all the spotlight from every other

1033
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: deserving Lakers player other than Luca. But if you're if

1034
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: you're an up and coming Lakers player, guess what, Lebron's

1035
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 2: the one who is still start.

1036
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: You can't find yourself on that list. Nowadays, with social media,

1037
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: the fight for coverage is not what it used to

1038
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: be because everyone can market themselves.

1039
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: I'm also going to take the tact that I'm sorry,

1040
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: nobody quote unquote deserves media coverage if you deserve playing time.

1041
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 4: If you want to say Lebron's taking somebody's playing time

1042
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: or Lindsay von is taking somebody's spot, that would be

1043
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 4: more effective because she's on a torn acl I can

1044
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: live with that argument. Nobody deserves media coverage.

1045
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: What I'm saying was it's time for the media to

1046
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: cover a team or a sport or an event. Who

1047
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: are they asking for They're asking for the name and

1048
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: if the name is still hanging on because basically for

1049
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: the media coverage and the marketability so they can turn

1050
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: it into dollars.

1051
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 4: So you're saying it's a better story.

1052
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: I'm saying is if I was a younger athlete on

1053
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: the team, I wouldn't be so happy.

1054
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 4: So that's it.

1055
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: I do have another random question, so you know it's

1056
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: going to be good. I know that you are conspiracy

1057
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: Calvis over there a little bit, six more weeks of winter.

1058
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: Do you believe the groundhog on Groundhog Day?

1059
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: No, no chance, no chance. In fact, they started a

1060
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: competing groundhog, Willy something whatever. Yeah, there's a competing groundhog Willy. Yeah,

1061
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: you know, I.

1062
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: Mean it's you know, Pucksatani, Phil and Willie.

1063
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: It's capitalism at its fines. It's not gonna look it up.

1064
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: You know what that could be? You know, you might

1065
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: need to expand your mind beyond just dogs, maybe just animals.

1066
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: In general, you can start thinking of ways to scam people.

1067
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it might be a woodchuck. I don't know

1068
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: what it is.

1069
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 4: But Willy the woodchuck, I could see that.

1070
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 2: By the way, you guys realize you're behind for groundhogs

1071
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: with your phones, your Apple products, You're behind the times.

1072
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: Gemini is taking over the world, and all you have

1073
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: to do is look that up, just to let you

1074
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 2: guys know. You guys are lagging there with your devices. Sorry, AI,

1075
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: you're lagging.

1076
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 4: You're gonna She's gonna bring up the picks again just

1077
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: because you decide to bring up AI.

1078
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

1079
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 3: Can AI?

1080
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: Here we go every I think the effect of twenty

1081
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: twenty six. We need a little AI story of the

1082
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: week for Darren and only Darren. Here's an expert who

1083
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: says AI will supercharge sports teams valuations going forward, as

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Speaker 2: if sports teams aren't valuable enough. He says AI is

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Speaker 2: going the rise of artificial intelligence is going to make

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Speaker 2: live sports content more valuable than ever. So let's say

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks sell for seven five billion, just because everything

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Speaker 2: is gonna be Everything else is going to be artificially generated,

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Speaker 2: and there'll be no urgency but live sports events will

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Speaker 2: be appointment viewing and basically be the only appointment viewing left.

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Speaker 4: We're pretty close to that anyways. It's true.

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Speaker 2: I get I can't argue against that. But there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's your your AI sports story of the week, Darren,

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Speaker 2: because I know you look.

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Speaker 4: Forward to that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, geez, so you're not staying out there for Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Are we flying back?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? We're flying back. I'm hoping Fitz gets in because

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Speaker 4: we have some good stuff to cover with him two days.

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Speaker 4: If he gets in. If he doesn't get in, I

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Speaker 4: guess we leave early. Let's not say anything. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 4: the bosses won't notice.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's Willie the Groundhog. Wait, he's still a groundhog.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the famous quote weather predicting rodents that

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Speaker 2: pop up every February second.

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Speaker 3: How do they know that? How do you learn the

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Speaker 3: first time that.

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Speaker 1: Willy?

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Speaker 4: You couldn't come up with a better that doesn't even

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Speaker 4: that's not even a literation you can't go with, like

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Speaker 4: d'Artagnan or something.

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Speaker 2: He's Canadian. It's the Canadian counterpart to Pennsylvania's punk Satawny Phil.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: There you go. But isn't there a problem because the

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Speaker 4: sun is at a different end.

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Speaker 3: Like, we should take a field trip next year.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Willy the groundhog, you know what, he

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Speaker 2: deserves a tariff. You should put a tariff on Willy

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Speaker 2: the groundhog. That's what you should do, and I think.

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Speaker 4: That'll do it.

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