1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to No Dunks, presented by Fan Duel. We've got 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: a fun one today. It's always fun in here. I'm 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: tas Mellis here in the Classic Factory with me. It's 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the man in the middle, Trey Kirby, A you and 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: the man making the magic happen every single day. It's JD. Hello, 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: what's up? 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: JD. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: We'll get to everything that happened in the NBA on 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Monday night later. But now got a special guest. We've 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: got the nugget, Spencer Jones joining us. Spencer, what's going on? 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: That's good guys, ekspetping me on. 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for coming on. You're in Phoenix, correct. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: Yep, you got in yesterday afternoon and. 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: It's just past seven am and you're jumping on with us. 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 3: Like to get up early either way, so it's part 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: of my schedule. 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: All right. 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we appreciate that. I want to start by saying 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: congrats on the contract. I know it's been a month 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: since you signed the full on NBA deal, but that 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: is a big deal. And just to give some background, 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: because I know not everybody knows how NBA contracts work. 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: You came out undrafted in twenty twenty four. Signed a 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: two way deal with the Denver Nuggets last season, and 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: then coming into the season, you signed another two way deal, 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: and then February they said, now we want you up here. 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: Forget this G league trip back and forth. You signed 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: the deal in February. So what are some of the 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: ups and downs of having gone through that G League 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: experience now up till this point of your career. 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, the way the two way it life is 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: definitely you know, a lot to learn from. You know, 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: obviously you're typically bouncing up back and forth. And last year, 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: what I counted, I went up nine ten different times, 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: just bouncing back a lot of times. It's really just 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: to you know, fill the end of the bench, make 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: sure they have enough gut highs. 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't really a lot of times. It doesn't really 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: mean a. 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: Lot in terms of, like, you know, how I'm playing 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: and everything, and so it's bouncing that also, you know, balancing. 42 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: You know, you don't know when you're gonna get your 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: time with the Nuggets, but you know you have to 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: play a little bit differently. You know, obviously you're kind 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: of the man when you're down in the G League 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: and everything out with the ball in your hands, you 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: come up play with the nuggets. Obviously, you know you're 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 3: not taking the ball from from yolks hands and trying 49 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: to trying to fit in there, and so it's you know, 50 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: it's balancing that as well. And then you know, obviously 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: the contract itself is the two way ones not guaranteed, 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: so you're you know, maybe have that little worry in 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: the back of mind. 54 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: You might you know, you might get cut at any moment. 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: You know, not a lot of the two ways, you 56 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: know often you know, stick around the whole year, and 57 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: that's something to deal with. And so you know, it 58 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: was a lot of a lot of diversity, but you know, 59 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 3: grew grew a lot from it and I learned a 60 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: lot from it. 61 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: How did you celebrate when you signed the guaranteed deal? 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: I celebrated by playing the next game. 63 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: There we go. 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: He's like, it was like, right, what it was like 65 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: the day before our first game after after all start break, 66 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: so you know it was it was it was what 67 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: I think we officially signed it later later in the 68 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: night before the game, and then yeah, I celebrate a 69 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: little bit, calm my parents and stuff, and then yeah, 70 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: I had to play. I think the Clippers in LA 71 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: the next day. And so that's kind of the NBA life, man. 72 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: You you celebrate real briefly and then you know, you 73 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: pretty much have a game the next day of the 74 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: day after. 75 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've had a lot of games here without you 76 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: mentioned Yoke, a lot of the start of the rotation 77 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: with your guys, you you know, but that that seventy 78 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: six ers one is the one that stands out. That's 79 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: the the LinkedIn post that blew up. Right you're battling 80 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Joel Embid because Yoke was out. How how fun was 81 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: that battling a large man down low? 82 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've done that. 83 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: They've done a decent decent amount of times putting me 84 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: at the five so we can play small ball, switch 85 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: everything and uh, you know, make our offense flow a 86 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: little bit faster sometimes. But yeah, I know that game 87 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: specifically was yeah, like I'm giving up, Like it feels 88 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: like one hundred pounds to to that dude, and so 89 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: a lot of it's just trying to push him out 90 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: of the paint. And you know, I mean, obviously, you know, 91 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: maybe the fact that he's you know, he's still you know, 92 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: batt was battling pass injuries and stuff. 93 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: Like that helped helped me out a little bit. 94 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: But uh, it's like one of the most right up 95 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: been after the after the gage just kind oft left 96 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: the battle with the guy in the post. And but 97 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: you know, I you know, we we were able to 98 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: kind of win that game because us our advantage of 99 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: speed and you know, because we're playing small ball to 100 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: to make it happen. And like, you know, everybody just 101 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: came in with with confidence, came out firing from the jump, 102 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: making shots, and you know, it was great to see 103 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: everybody you know on the bench and everybody uh you 104 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: know put in some put in some great minutes and 105 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: each big plays. 106 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: It was. 107 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: It was it was like one of the best team 108 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: wins I've been a part of. 109 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: With Peyton and a g being down with injuries for 110 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: a big chunk of this recent part of the season, 111 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: you have been guarding up and down. Uh, Embiid certainly 112 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: is tough from a physical standpoint. Who's the toughest guy 113 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: you've had to guard this season? 114 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Gosh, I mean there's been so many guys. 115 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: I mean they've been throwing me on on everybody, Yannis 116 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: just physically, I don't think I ever met a guy 117 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: that that's strong, get that quick with his feed in 118 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: that fast downhill, that's definitely us something Usually with my 119 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: size like and I quick laterally, usually I have an 120 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: advantage on either strength or lateral quickness. 121 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: He was like one of the first guys. 122 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: Where I'm like, all right, I gotta I really got 123 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: to be locked in on you know, my feet, what 124 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: angles I'm taking. 125 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: Shade. 126 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: Just the fact that you know, he really, you know, 127 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: he loves that the shot that as a defender you 128 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: want to give up, which is like, you know, a 129 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: contested mid range kind of like step back or whatever. 130 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: Like typically that's you know, you're trying to take away 131 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: the REDMU, you're trying to take away three point shot 132 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: with like ninety five percent of guys. He's the one 133 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: guy who excels at that one shot that you're typically 134 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: used to giving up. 135 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: And so it changed. 136 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's definitely difficult as a defender. You kind 137 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: of shift your h you know, shift your mindsets. They're 138 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: obviously you know Lucas, Lucas Lucas. Just when you play Luca, 139 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: you realize why he's so good the deceleration, how quick 140 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: he is with that, how great he is with the 141 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: with the pump fix and how it can kind of 142 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: hang in the air a little bit, and the shots 143 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: to kind of you know, miss time your jumps and 144 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: everything like that. It's a lot of little things that 145 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: you know obviously can get looked overlooked. Really you understand 146 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: why these guys are so great. 147 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've had that big task on the on the 148 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: defensive end. On the other side, You're shooting percentages have 149 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: been great. You're uniform has always or shooting percentages have 150 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: always been good. Like when you're at Stanford that first 151 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: year you led to pack twelve and three point percentage. 152 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: I saw that. And your shooting form is unique, Spencer. 153 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: I think that's very clear. Have you ever altered it 154 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: or has it always been the same. 155 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: It's pretty much always been the same. 156 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: I think, you know, maybe it changed a little bit 157 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: as the body changed a little bit, but in terms 158 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: of how it feels, it never uh, you know, it 159 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: never changed or anything like that. 160 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know everybody loves loves to comments on it. 161 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: I need to work on it, and I'm like, like, 162 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: just do a little bit of research in terms of 163 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: my percentages in college. I literally have Stanford's record for 164 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: three pointers in their career, and so I just you know, 165 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: you got to let it go over your head. 166 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: People even ridicule you on LinkedIn too, because it seems 167 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: like everybody would be nice on LinkedIn. 168 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: Most people are nice. 169 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 3: I definitely had like a couple a couple of things 170 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I don't. I don't look too 171 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: much of comments either either way. 172 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: But that's the way. 173 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: It's more jokingly, but yeah, LinkedIn, it's definitely, you know, 174 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: been much nicer. I mean, look, you got to keep 175 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: a good profile there. 176 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: How did LinkedIn become your social media of choice? Like 177 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 4: you are the linked influencer of the NBA. 178 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been that's been fun. Yeah, no, it was. 179 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, just originally started like, look, I was coming in, 180 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: like you said, un drafted on a two way kind 181 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: of you know, typically if you look at the numbers, 182 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: that's not a not a the best way to make 183 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: sure you have a you know, long career, and you 184 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: know the numbers are obviously against you, and so you know, 185 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: I always was looking like, all right, what am I 186 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: going to do past uh the NBA and everything like that, 187 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: and so you know, I wanted to make sure I 188 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: maintained the Stanford network that I that I had LinkedIn 189 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: seemed like the best way to do so without like individually, 190 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: you know, having an to keep up with text and 191 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: do that stuff like that. It was a great way 192 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: to keep presence of mind. So you know, that was 193 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: kind of the goal of it. It was pretty much 194 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: simply just posting, you know, making sure people who I 195 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: connected with the Stanford still know I'm around, just you know, 196 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: so I so when I need them, you know, it 197 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: doesn't feel like I'm you know, it's the ghost for 198 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: a while, and that was that was the main goal. 199 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: Then you know, put up some of the posts, like 200 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: even early on, gained a lot of attention, some on 201 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: my network grow growing, and then you know, obviously I've 202 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: had an interest in the venture capital and invest angel 203 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: investing space, and you know that's that's also you know, 204 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: helped me grow that and on LinkedIn, get various deals, 205 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: get in with various VC leaders and other investors and 206 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: everything like that. And so I only saw it as 207 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: you know, why not want to keep this consistent and 208 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: you know, see where it goes and never imagine the 209 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: NBA to grab hold of it, and you know, for 210 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: to get as big as it big as it has, 211 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: but it's all been all been great for building that 212 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: off the court stuff. 213 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't really track that world so much ourselves. 214 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: I'd say, you're you're our linked influencer. 215 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: Me for myself, Yeah, sure, Yeah, I've always had an account, 216 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: I've just never been in that space. I never dive 217 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: in and have have a lot of fun. Is there 218 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: a reason that I should be in Spencer? 219 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: Is there? 220 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Is there? What's the appeal? 221 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 222 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: Look, I think I think the appeal is like it's 223 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: got one of the most organic reaches of any platform. 224 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: Like you could have whatever low following account and have 225 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: a plug post blow up and immediately, you know, get 226 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: several more followers versus like a you know, TikTok and 227 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: Instagram algorithm is typically set to where like you're almost 228 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: capped with certain stuff, So it's a lot more organic. 229 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: But I mean the main thing is, like the people 230 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: there carry far more weight than obviously the average TikTok 231 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: user Instagram user, Like they're all exacts people in business, 232 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: Like it definitely helps with a lot of corporate partnerships 233 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: and everything like that. Like it just it just gets 234 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: you in the right spaces you want to you want 235 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: to be in, so you don't need to necessarily blow 236 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: up that much. 237 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: Like what I only have. 238 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Thirty thousand I think followers now, which is which is 239 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: great and definitely like one of the top tier. But 240 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: you know, you equate that the Instagram and people with 241 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: thirty thousand, I mean, like you know, people don't don't 242 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: look at that as much. But like I said, it's 243 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: it's the value of each Each of those thirty thousand 244 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: carries far more weight, and you know, like and like 245 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: I said, it's led to a great the amount of 246 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: investments I've come into. I know, you know, one of 247 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: being the shoes I partnered with Andy, you a partner 248 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: that came from LinkedIn, and I think one of you, 249 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: one of the two guys, uh tried it and that 250 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: I love teacher, love teach your thoughts on it? 251 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: Is that how you got linked up with? And it's 252 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: through LinkedIn? 253 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah. 254 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: They reached out to me. Uh, they reached out to 255 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: me the there. Actually I don't think I I don't 256 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: think I saw it, but they they reached out there 257 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: and then they actually came because of what Summer League 258 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: last year. You know, I do I like to participate 259 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: in a lot of those NBA Tech events, and like 260 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: that Summer League is a big one. They bring a 261 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: lot of startups around. And I mean I was taking 262 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: a meeting with another founder and he brought Alex along, 263 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: and Alex had the shoes with him. 264 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I'll test him out. 265 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: And you know, I loved him more as a product. 266 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: I looked and looked at him as an investment later on. 267 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: But Jay was just fitting a need that I that 268 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: I had. I was kind of in looking for a shoe. 269 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: A lot of the shoes I was wearing were you know, 270 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: weren't lasting very long. And you know, I had some 271 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: ankle problems, uh in college, and so you know, like 272 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 3: I said, you're on the two way. 273 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: You got to be healthy. 274 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: You have to you know, make sure you're always available, 275 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: and so I needed to shoot that was gonna you know, 276 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: make sure I was doing that. And like I said, 277 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: they're you know, uh, medically engineered to prevent ankle springs. 278 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: They've done great. 279 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: And like I've literally you know, only used like two 280 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: or three throughout this entire season, you know, and I'm 281 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: usually using like five shoes. Like that's you know, I'm 282 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: working my butt off on the defensive end, Like my 283 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 3: shoes are typically good aware out, but they've they've done 284 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 3: the best of any shoe I've done. And you know, 285 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm kind of excited to see their new 286 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: rollouts of you know, I know a lot of a 287 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: lot of guys have commented on the you know, maybe 288 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: a little bulky or anything like that, and I'm excited 289 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: to see them come out with a with a low 290 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: top and uh, you know one that's you know, other 291 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: commercially viable options, and you know, it's kind of great 292 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: to just you know, see ah see, you know, somebody 293 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: innovate and kind of the space that you know, not 294 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: too many people innovate, you know, despite like you know, 295 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: other than like color ways and stuff like that, but 296 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: just you know, more tech being used in shoes. 297 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, our group of guys got a pair and skeets 298 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: who's who's not here right now. He's a guard so 299 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: he thought, you know, they're coffee, but they're just a 300 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: little big to me. Like as you said, some guys 301 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: put them on there like, uh, it's too much shoe. 302 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: We're showing them here on YouTube. But as you said, 303 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: you're coming out with a low cut a little later 304 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: in the season. How does the low cuts prevent ankle spraints? 305 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: That's my my curiosity. 306 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so it's the same technology se that was 307 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: like rubber at the end. Obviously that you know, they 308 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: they aren't as great as the as the high tops 309 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: and the hih teps are obviously the best because you know, 310 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: I means work with the high pups at best. But 311 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: low tops are still better than any other low top 312 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: option you can get because a lot of it's that 313 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 3: that rubber on the on the bottom one for more 314 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: traction than to the way they the way they fit 315 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: it on that kind of outside of the top upper 316 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: half of the shoe is where you typically will roll 317 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 3: it over, typically on most ankle screens outside ankles springs, 318 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: and so you still have that with it. And then 319 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: obviously you have I don't believe they'll have strapps, but 320 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: they'll have a mechanism to to tighten it specifically even 321 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: around where the upper you know, upper upper part of 322 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: the shoe is to still keep that secure. And so, 323 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: like I said, the best options for if you really 324 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: have bad ankles always the high tops, but the low 325 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: tops is your next PIX option past any other any 326 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: other any other shoe, and so you know, like like 327 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: I said, it's still it's still the best option on 328 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: the market. 329 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's light and comfortable, I said, skeets. He 330 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to put them on just because, well he 331 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: put them on, but he didn't want to wear them 332 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: in the game just because you know, he's a quick guard. 333 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: He said. That's all I got, man, I'm not wearing 334 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 1: a bigger shoe. So we passed them on to j 335 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: D who play pick a ball in them. That's right, 336 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I test you. How are the I know you were 337 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: having I shouldn't say problems with I don't know problems there. 338 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: You have the stretch strap issues though. 339 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 5: Well, I didn't have my rating glasses on that look 340 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 5: that'ster I'm an old guy. I'm playing pickle ball. 341 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: They had. I was. 342 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 5: I felt like an astronaut getting into these things because 343 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 5: I couldn't read the instructions. I have my son help 344 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 5: help me get them on. But once they're on, I 345 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: didn't find them bulky at all. 346 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. 347 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, once you put them on, they're actually not They're 348 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: actually pretty. Yeah. 349 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: They don't look a book as some would some would suggest, 350 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: they're like the best. 351 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Players in the NBA and them, so they can't be there. 352 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: I'm taking up in them. 353 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: I took on Martha and Neil last night and I 354 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: smoked them in those shoes. I was very, very happy. 355 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: And we're in Atlanta here where there is a about 356 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: an inch of pollen on the court, you know, so 357 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: everybody's slipping and sliding everywhere, and I was just I 358 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 5: was diving for stuff, you know, with reckless abandon because 359 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: my ankles were very secure in these things. 360 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like them. 361 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: That's why we've passed them around to the group, because 362 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: they are secure, there's no doubt, lockdown, and they're lockdown, 363 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: no doubt. Can I ask you about Nikoly Yokicic's uh 364 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: two colored shoes. I mean, I just find it crazy 365 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: that yok would put on two different colored shoes. He 366 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like that type of guy, you know. 367 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: Yo Yoko surprise you on some stuff. You know. 368 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: I don't think he, you know, cares too much for 369 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: the shoes he kind of kind of puts on or 370 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: anything like that. You know, he'll try out to try 371 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: out anything, and so but yeah, no, I mean he 372 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: probably also has some influence from some other guys who 373 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: have done it on the on the team and everything 374 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: like that, and so you know he's he's very low key, 375 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: even you guys, So yeah, I can get what you 376 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah any different other. 377 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: You've been around Jokic now for a couple of years. 378 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: When you came into the league, he'd already won his 379 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: m VP's already established himself. But what was something to 380 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: you that stuck out in some of those early Nuggets 381 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: practices or meetings or something like that about Yokic that 382 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: kind of blew your mind. 383 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like how much he knows about the NBA rules, 384 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: like a training camp of stuff like that. You know, 385 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: we bring out the refs when we were running scrimmages 386 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: and everything like that. He is both training camps, like 387 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: especially this when we were waiting for him on the 388 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: bus because he's talking to the rest for like it 389 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: had to be at least an hour and a half 390 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: just about all the new rule changes, little things and 391 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: everything like that. Like and then you know, it comes 392 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: out obviously because he makes those smart plays where like 393 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: his fans, you're like, what the what the hell's is 394 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: doing guy doing after the whistle or whatever, And it's 395 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: like sometimes he's stalling a little bit for us to 396 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: get a little bit extra time or you know, trying 397 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: to get a delay a game on the other team. 398 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: And so like he knows the rule book like inside 399 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: and out, and you know, you know, it's kind of 400 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: like that thing Kobe did as well, and so you know, 401 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: kind of just makes the greats great, like they know 402 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: the game inside and out and everything like that. And 403 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: so like you know, all the stuff that people say like, oh, 404 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: it doesn't like basketball or anything like that, it's obviously 405 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: obviously untrue. I mean if you see the guy work 406 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: and everything like that. But that was that was something 407 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: really stood out to me, like like that, like I said, 408 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: they were waiting on the bus for him to get 409 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: out and he was just talking the talking to the 410 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: rest of years off. 411 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he finds out every little detail about every 412 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: single rule to work to his advantage. Something that I 413 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: read about you that Forbes article that you use to 414 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: your advantage you got you know, you're as you said, 415 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: tech guy. You get into the stats as well. I 416 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: saw this about how you play. You said quote, I 417 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: can probably tell you ninety percent of my shots come 418 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: from about the same three spots on the floor, and 419 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: so you use that to your benefit, right that you 420 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: develop a relationship with a coach because of that. But 421 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: you also said that it can be a negative. How 422 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: do you see that as also being a negative? 423 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: Well, I think the. 424 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 3: Question there was like the mindset of like how does 425 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: the engineering mindset kind of help you or hurt you? 426 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: And everything like that. 427 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I mean it helps because like yeah, like 428 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: I said, I'll look at it kind of like almost 429 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: like an equation and say like, look, this is where 430 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: a lot of my shots are coming from. How do 431 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: I tailor this to maximize efficiency and stuff like that, 432 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: And you know, like I feel like my numbers have 433 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: kind of reflected that a little bit percentage wise, except 434 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: for the free throw line. 435 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: Gotta work on that. 436 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: But outside of that, like where it hurts is like, hey, 437 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: like as a roleplayer, you don't want get too locked 438 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: in on percentages and everything like that. And also, like 439 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the game is also still creativity. 440 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: I mean, like if you look at Yoke and obviously 441 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: you know some of those shots cannot be planned, but 442 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: he's you know, still able to still able to make 443 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: it work and everything like that, and so like it's 444 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: it's maintaining that like, yeah, that that free flowing creativity 445 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: while also like knowing like where your where your bread 446 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: and butter is, where you fit in fit inside his offense, 447 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 3: especially as a role player. But then you know, as 448 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: a young guy, you want to grow, You want to 449 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: you know, maximize your confidence and everything like that, and 450 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: so it's it's too battling kind of personas there that 451 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: you kind of have to kind of to work with. 452 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 4: With regards to the creativity. What's it like trying to 453 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: learn to play with a guy like Yoki, You surely 454 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 4: is different than anybody you've ever played with. You're going 455 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: to get passes that you're not expecting, cuts are different. 456 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 4: Jamal Murray also a really creative player. How do you 457 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: try and fit into a system like that where it 458 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: just feels like anything could happen at any moment. 459 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you try to learn the patterns of kind of spacing, 460 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: like where they drive, where where you want to be, 461 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 3: and then with Yo, where he expects you to be 462 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: because like you know, like I said, it's all kind 463 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: of like a puzzle and stuff like that. Like, yes, 464 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: he does spontaneous stuff, but like the way offense is run, Yeah, 465 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: like my lout look like we're kind of running plays. 466 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes at times it just feels like we're getting the 467 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: bottle Yoak, It's like, no, we're getting the Baldiok, it's 468 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: at the specific spot we expect the other four guys 469 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: to be in these positions to maximize spacing. And then 470 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: from then on it's it's once you're in that right position, 471 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: it's like, all right, what is the defense going to do? 472 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Are they going to double yoke? Where are they going 473 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: to double yoke from? Is going to from the top 474 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: or the bottom? And then you know, you know, based 475 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: on that, it's like, all right, how do we cut? 476 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: How do we how do we move the ball after 477 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: that first pass? Where do you expect to be there? 478 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: And like once you kind of learn those like patterns 479 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: and everything like that, that's where like playing with Yoak 480 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: is the best thing because you'll get wide open threes, 481 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: these he layups at the rim, you know, stuff like that, 482 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 3: and so just being where you kind of expect him 483 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: where he expects you to be, and just reading the 484 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: defense through it through these kind of like patterns of 485 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: movement that we've kind of established as an. 486 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: Offense spencer, we were ready to ask you the same question, 487 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: but people in our stream team watching on YouTube are 488 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: asking it, so I got to ask you. I'm sure 489 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: you're aware of the Yankees prospect that has the same 490 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: name as you, Spent Jones. 491 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: My friends have made me aware. Yes, when they try 492 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: to google me, he shows up first. I wonder that's 493 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: still the case. 494 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think I think it is the case. 495 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: Check it out. 496 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: Depends on your algorithm. I get all basketball. 497 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Is he on LinkedIn? I guess not that specially. I 498 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: saw this. We looked at the size of that Spencer Jones. 499 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: He could compare to it Joel embiid, I mean. 500 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: Compared to NBA Spencer Jones. 501 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: As well as I think we're the same. I think 502 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: we were the same height and around the same way too. 503 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: I think I checked. 504 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: It was kind of funny a. 505 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: Lot of stats. I want to take advantage of this 506 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: opportunity here, you know, being having your engineering background at Stanford, 507 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: being on LinkedIn, you know where to invest. I'm gonna 508 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: just I'm just gonna ask you or should I invest 509 00:20:59,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: or should I invest? 510 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: Whether this is this is a great time to do 511 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 3: all the pr for the place the places. I mean, 512 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: I'm invested in uh, you know, the idea and stuff 513 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: like that. But but now, like I'll tell you where 514 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: I like I've been doing a decent amount of researching 515 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Is one is the neurotech space. 516 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of you know, a lot of 517 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: you know, everybody's big on health and you know, maximizing 518 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: the body and human performs everything like that. Like the 519 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 3: brain is kind of the next frontier, and the innovations 520 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: we're able to able to get to now or are 521 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: kind of an incredible in terms of you know, initially 522 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: you'll see you know, with neurotech, I feel like everybody 523 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: imagines the big old helmet that goes on on top 524 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: of your head to get you know, the brain data 525 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 3: and brain signals of everything going on inside. 526 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, now, now the technology has gotten good. 527 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: Enough to where like you know, se Civic startup that 528 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, builds a little chip that goes behind your 529 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: ear and so you can you can get all this 530 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: brain data through movement and everything like that. And so 531 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: it'd be interesting, you know, taking the athlete perspective of it, 532 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: seeing how dialed in we are, what it looks like 533 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: when inflow state, what that looks like inside the brain, 534 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So that's something really cool I've 535 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: been looking at and there's a couple of companies there 536 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: and then you know, obviously AI is huge, but it's 537 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: interesting seeing like where AI is kind of going in 538 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 3: terms of like digital athletes itself, like in terms of 539 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: you know, I know, Moses Moody did one where he 540 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: had a AI configuration of himself basically a digital asset 541 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: of himself, and used it in a foundation with kids 542 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: to where they could talk to him, you know, through 543 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: this through you know, obviously it was a digital version 544 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: of him, but it felt like it was talking to him, 545 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: and it was I was really impressed talking to it, 546 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: as his mannerisms had everything like that. And so the 547 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: use of use of that would be great and I think, 548 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: you know, if any of these companies can figure out 549 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: how to because the biggest issue with a lot of 550 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: this AI stuff in sports is it's it's pretty much 551 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: like the governance of it and you know, like the 552 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: data privacy and everything like that, with like all right, 553 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: we have all this information the athletes, how are we 554 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: going to structure modestization governance and you know, all that 555 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: all that data privacy stuff in a way that's both 556 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: beneficial for both. 557 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: The athlete and the and the league or team or whatever. 558 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: And so if there's ever you know, somebody who can 559 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 3: streamline kind of that process make it easy. I think 560 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: that's you know, that's a that's a that's a big best, 561 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: big target. But those are the stuff, you know, you know, 562 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: within sports that I'm into. You know, it's like I said, 563 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 3: not a I don't know if I have to say, 564 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: you know, not a professional investment advisor. 565 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 2: They usually they usually tell you. But those are kind 566 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: of the things I'm looking at. 567 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate it. 568 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: Uh. One question we're getting from the stream team, who 569 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: do you think is winning in March Madness? Uh, you know, 570 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 4: we've gone through the first weekend. We've seen who's looking 571 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 4: like the best teams. It's certainly Michigan as far as 572 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: I can tell. But who do you who do you 573 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 4: think is going to take it home this year? 574 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: My my bet was on on Houston. 575 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: I think Sampson's do for one, and then just the 576 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: toughness was they played their guard play and everything like that. 577 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's it's hard. It's hard to bet 578 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: against Houston for me. 579 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: All right, Spencer, any other questions from the stream team. 580 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I got a lot of questions. I'm 581 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: just curious about, like did you have a favorite player 582 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: growing up or like somebody you're trying to model your 583 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 4: game after. 584 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, growing up, it was my first like 585 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: jersey that I got was Realen when he was on 586 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: the Celtics. And then naturally, like you know those players 587 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: that played like real and so I get fell into 588 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: like play Thompson and I'm trying to think who the 589 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 3: secondary guy was. 590 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: But those were those were the two that like early. 591 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: On, We're the ones that tried to like model my 592 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: game after, you know, liked what they did, especially played 593 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: with his off ball movement and stuff like that. You know, 594 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: like that was just amazed with, like, you know, the 595 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: sixty one points on eleven dribbles and you know how 596 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: you can be that efficient and not you know, driple 597 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: the ball and stuff like that, and so yeah, like 598 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 3: both of those two guys for sure. 599 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Nice all right, Spencer, we won't take any more of 600 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: your time. You joined us literally at seven am local time. 601 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on and good luck the rest 602 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: of the season with Denver. 603 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. So much. 604 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: Thanks again, Thanks Spencer. 605 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 2: Take care. 606 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: We will get to everything that happened in Monday Nights NBA, 607 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: because there was a lot that happened. But first, a 608 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: quick word from our sponsor. 609 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: Quick word from our sponsor, FanDuel. Right now, new FanDuel 610 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: customers can get up to three hundred dollars back in 611 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: bonus bets every day for ten days if your bet loses. 612 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: Here's how it works. 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They're followed by Duke and let's see where 623 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: Spencer Jones's choice, Houston is. They're in the one, two, three, four, five, six, seventh, 624 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: seventh best adds plus seven hundred seems like an analytical 625 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: scientific man. Yes, Spencer, Yes he's ready. Something to think about. 626 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: But however, you want to fill out your bracket. FanDuel 627 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: makes it easy to stay in the action, day after 628 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: day after day times ten. So visit the FanDuel Sports 629 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: Book app today FanDuel it is time to dance. 630 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: It is. When we were going through teams, Houston definitely 631 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: was towards the top because of their defense. 632 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: I believe there are two seed. Yeah, they're good. We've 633 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 4: seen them. Do we see him playing a national championship game? No, 634 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: we went to Houston. Yes, we saw San Diego State 635 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: and Yukon. Yeah, but yeah, Houston's got a chance. Like 636 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: you're saying, Kelvin Samson has had a lot of good teams. 637 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: They just haven't quite gotten over the top yet. 638 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 639 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: And they're playing at home in the first part of 640 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: the bracket in Houston. That was happening, right, Sometimes it's 641 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: always yeah, forgetable little where is everybody playing? I thought 642 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: that was part of their part of the appeal. Yeah, 643 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: you're probably right either way. Good luck to Houston. We'll 644 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: go to Houston. 645 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: Now I'm pulling for him a little now that Spencer 646 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 4: Jones suggested them. Yeah, he's a full name guy for me. 647 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: Spencer Good, agreed. I'm never calling him. I don't know 648 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: him well enough to call him Spencer straight up. And 649 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: just Jones, I don't know. 650 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: I thought we were really the same, We were really 651 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: developing a relationship there. 652 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: I was. 653 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: I was almost going, Spence. 654 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 4: What do you think, Spence? 655 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's happening there. 656 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. 657 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Monday night in the NBA. Unfortunately, 658 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: the main story that jumped out to a lot of 659 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: people was Moses Moody's injury late in the game. Wasn't 660 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: overtime against the Dallas Mavericks where he had a non 661 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: contact knee injury just going up to throw it down 662 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: and he fell, And if you haven't seen it, we're 663 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: not going to show it to you here. Some people 664 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: get a little queasy seeing the knee displacement. Now, it's 665 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: not definitive as to what happened and how long he'll 666 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: be out, but it seemed very gruesome. He left on 667 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: a stretcher and it was covered up as Draymond Green 668 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: was hugging a man. He left the court, the Dallas 669 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: Mavericks fans I thought was a nice moment, giving him 670 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: plenty of love as he left. What were your thoughts 671 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: strict Well. 672 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: You could tell it was bad just by the reactions 673 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: from everybody from the Mavericks fans to Kristaps Porzingis, who 674 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 4: sees the injury and like throws his hands to his 675 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 4: head as he's running back down the court. They cut 676 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: to Steph Curry. He's got his head in his hands, 677 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 4: can't even look up. And if you've seen it, like 678 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: this is season ending for sure, And it wouldn't be 679 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: surprising if Moody is out for a long time coming here, 680 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: because things just looked displaced on that knee. That's not 681 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 4: the way a knee is supposed to look, so it 682 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me if it's dislocated as well as some 683 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: sort of tearor to whatever ligaments inside there. And just yeah, 684 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: it's been a tough season for the Warriors and this 685 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: is just the latest and definitely the most severe looking 686 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: of any sort of injury we've seen because he was 687 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 4: just all by himself, there was nobody, nobody catching him. 688 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: This was basically going to be the dagger dunk to 689 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: win things in overtime, makes a great steal on Cooper 690 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: flag up on the left wing, takes it the other way, 691 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: goes up for the dunk and just couldn't jump and 692 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: comes down with a bad looking knee injury. Sad stuff 693 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 4: for him. He's having his best season of his career, 694 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: one of the rare bright spots, I would say for 695 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: the Warriors this season, and he had just come back 696 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: from injury as well. I think he had a risk 697 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: problem that had kept him out for quite a bit 698 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: of time. Was playing pretty well. This should have been 699 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: the exclamation point on the night, and it's that. It's 700 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 4: just a sad ending. Yeah. 701 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: As far as sort of the national media goes, and 702 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: if you're just following the NBA, you probably didn't see 703 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: a lot about Moses Moody this year because a lot 704 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: of the Golden State Warriors stories are Steph's injuries and 705 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Kristaps porzingis now injured and Jimmy Butler obviously injured. But 706 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: Moses was having his best year. He is only twenty 707 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: three years old. He was developing into that guy you 708 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: felt I could have a long career as a three 709 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: and D type guy shooting the best ball of his career. 710 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: So it is just a terrible story all in all. 711 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: In a twenty three point game here against the Dallas 712 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Mavericks as well, you had Kristaps Borzingis come back from 713 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: his sore back and everything else he's got going off 714 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: the floor, along with Jimmy Butler's injury, and yes, you 715 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: mentioned Steph couldn't even look at it. And this feels like, 716 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: even though yeah, I'm a positive ped I deep deep 717 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: inside I thought STEP's coming back, but you never know 718 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: what can happen with this team, and he is, he 719 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: is bound to be back, and if those guys were 720 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: being healthy around him, this definitely hurts just not having 721 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: a guy who's a regular out there. Despite that wrist injury, 722 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: he was out there. So yes, all in all, terrible 723 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: stuff for the Golden State Warriors period. 724 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: Yep, really bad. They have a tough task ahead of them, 725 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: regardlessing out of the play in tournament, because they've kind 726 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 4: of resigned themselves to be in there and that's where 727 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: they're going to be. I mean, we've talked about the 728 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns being stuck in seventh for months at a time. 729 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 4: It's just even more impossible for the Warriors to move up, 730 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: so they would need everybody to even make a run 731 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 4: at the actual playoffs. And yeah, I don't know. I 732 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: don't know if we'll see Curry. There's ten games left 733 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 4: this season and it doesn't seem to be very optimistic 734 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: with regards to him actually coming back. I mean we'll see. Yeah, 735 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: they're just running out of time and it's looking pretty futile. 736 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah for Golden State. 737 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, again, maybe I'm a positive pen and I 738 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: see that guy running on the floor, and I think 739 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: they can play with anybody, even though you know where 740 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: they are right now. In an optimal situation, I mean, 741 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: you're getting the Thunder or the Spurs, no matter what. 742 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: So yes, of course that's a tough scenario. Speaking of 743 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs, Yeah, they were able to smash 744 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: the heat by Victor wemban Yama, who had a great 745 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: postgame press conference after a great game. Yes, weby twenty 746 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: six points, fifteen fifteen rebounds, five blocks, and the Spurs 747 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: clinched the Southwest Division. I didn't go back, but there 748 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: was a time where I was looking at those odds 749 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: and I kept mentioning it on the show because somehow 750 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: Houston was the favorite for a long time, and on 751 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: FanDuel the Spurs were just slowly slowly peeking up and 752 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: with the second best odds to win the division. But 753 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: they were They looked great. It's just people weren't betting 754 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: on them. I suppose that the odds makers weren't giving 755 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: them the respect that they deserve. Either way, they won 756 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: the Southwest all thanks to Victor webin Yama smashed the 757 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: Miami Heat. 758 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: Last name, Yeah, you win twenty two of twenty four 759 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: and it's going to be pretty good for your season 760 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: long outlook. This is their first division title since twenty 761 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 4: sixteen seventeen. If you love division titles, that's just some 762 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: good information. This was a great Instagram game for Victor 763 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: wembin Yama because he had so many highlights that were 764 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: like AERSL worthy. I saw the ig clips before I 765 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: grinded the tape this morning, and it's like every time 766 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: you're swiping, it's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You get 767 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: to the one hand pass, which isn't even like a 768 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: webbin Yama highlight. They throw an outlet to him, he 769 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: grabs it, whips it to the corner to dearon Fox. 770 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 4: He beats his guy Baseline, then finds Wemby for a dunk, 771 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: but just the catch and the chuck out to the corner. 772 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: Incredible from this guy. Finished with twenty six fifteen, four assists, 773 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: five blocks. The playmaking was really interesting to see because 774 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 4: there were a few times that San Antonio had Miami confused. 775 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 4: Two guys would go to Wemby and guess what, It's 776 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: pretty easy for him to see over bam Adebayo and 777 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: Tyler Hero, so he just is easily finding cutters underneath. 778 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: Really cool to see from Wemby. He's gotten so much 779 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 4: better as this season has gone on. He's really progressed. 780 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he's the best defender in the league easily, 781 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: but he's really progressed on the offensive end to the 782 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: point now where it's like you think he can do 783 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: anything at any moment, and he's doing a lot of 784 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: stuff at any moment. And then you mentioned his postgame 785 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: and his postgame press conference. He had a great chat 786 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 4: with Jared Weiss in the locker room talking about why Heath, 787 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: why Wemby thinks that he should be the MVP, and 788 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 4: Jared is kind of like straw manning the argument playing 789 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 4: the Devil's advocates saying maybe it's Shay, maybe it's somebody else. 790 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: Are you the best player of this kind of stuff. 791 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: But Wenby then takes that energy with him into his 792 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: standard postgame press conference and he says, I've thought about it. 793 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: The MVP. I think right now there's a debate. There 794 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: should be, even though I think I should lead the race, 795 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: I'm trying to make sure that at the end of 796 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: the season there's no debate. Where's he on your ballot 797 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 4: task one, two, three, twelve? Yet I'm down twelve? 798 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: I hope no, probably not. Yeah, it is a great 799 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: relationship that he has with Jared Weyss of the Athletic 800 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: We got to have Jared Wyce on at some point, 801 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: but they had such a relationship because when he went 802 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: to sit and do his postgame press conference, Jared basically said, yeah, 803 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: we were talking. We're discussing, you know, that whole MVP 804 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: thing and the debate. What were those three reasons that 805 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: you gave me Wemby, And yeah, he said, first, I 806 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: want this to not be a debate at all at 807 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: the end of the season. I want to be the MVP. 808 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: And also, here are my three reasons. First, I think 809 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: defense is fifty percent of the game. I think I'm 810 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: the most important defender out there. The most impactful defender 811 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: was the word he used. Second, we almost swept Okay 812 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: see this season, so he knows it directly. That's right 813 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: who he's going for in Shay Gills, Alexander and Third, offense, 814 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: impact is not just points. So yeah, maybe other guys score, 815 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: but I do a lot of things. And that was 816 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: really evident yesterday as you were sort of breaking down, 817 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: like he's ready to obviously make the great passes, but 818 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: also call for alups hey over here the block the 819 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: block on Norman Powell who was trying to use the 820 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: rim as a defender. He was going to the opposite 821 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: side of the rim, smart but Wemby literally flew through 822 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: the mesh and was able to block that shot. 823 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: Crazy. 824 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 4: And he's aware that. 825 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: He just has to play nine of the spurs last 826 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: ten games, so he doesn't play every single game, but 827 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: he's played bost of them to qualify and get up 828 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: to sixty five games at least, so he's aware of everything. 829 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: Shape probably still gets it, you know, in part because 830 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: he plays more games, plays more minutes. But you know, 831 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: I love and we've talked so many times about Wemby 832 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: knows that it's a team game. He knows where they 833 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: are in the standings and that they only trail the 834 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: Okac Thunder and that comes down to being a team sport. 835 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: And Yeah, maybe I'm not the number one seed, but 836 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: for X, Y and Z I should still be there. 837 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: And next year, I'm sure he's going to make it 838 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: a motivator as to why they should be the number 839 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: one seed TBD. 840 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean they're the number two seed in 841 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 4: the entire NBA right now thanks to this crazy hot 842 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 4: streak they've been on. Last time we did a Bontems 843 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 4: straw Pole, Wemby was number two on my voting. I 844 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 4: probably would keep them there. I mean, Shaye is putting 845 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 4: up thirty to a game, shooting fifty five percent and 846 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 4: has hit a lot of big shots as well for 847 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: a Thunder team that we've talked about has been banged 848 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 4: up for the entire year, So he does. Yeah, like 849 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 4: the Thunder are a better built team than the Spurs 850 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 4: are right now, since the Thunder a little further ahead, 851 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 4: way further ahead, and where they want to be as 852 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 4: defending NBA champions as favorites going into the playoffs right now. 853 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 4: So I think Shay's still the man for MVP, but 854 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: Wemby will be the favorite heading into next season, and 855 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 4: I think we'll get a decently close vote, especially considering 856 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 4: the Spurs. They've got the most outside of outside chances 857 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 4: of getting the number one overall seed this year. They're 858 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 4: three games back with ten games left to play. You know, 859 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 4: it's unlikely that they're able to get three up on 860 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 4: the Thunder and that amount of time as best, really, 861 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 4: especially with Jalen Williams coming back, with Hartenstein getting healthy 862 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 4: as well, it's unlikely that san Antonio catches Oklahoma City. 863 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 4: But I think it's pretty cool that he's at least 864 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: made it a race and it's coming out and saying like, yeah, 865 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 4: I do want to win the MVP. Windhorse talks a 866 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 4: lot on the WHO Collective podcast about how because Victor 867 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 4: is so thoughtful, he can really brag about himself and 868 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: say how great he wants to be and everybody's like, yeah, 869 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 4: we agree with you, man. You thought about it and 870 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 4: you're doing it out there on the cod as well. 871 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it doesn't solicit any hate when it's 872 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: no it's thoughtful, he thinks about it, and it's. 873 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 4: Well grounded, and he backs it up big time. 874 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: But it is great to see two men in the 875 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: MVP race that are on two teams at are streaking 876 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: right now. Yes, so it's super fun. The Thunder having 877 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: won twelve in a row, in the Spurs having just 878 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: won six in a row, but are ridiculously hot themselves. 879 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: We'll get to those Thunder in a second. But list's 880 00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: jump too. 881 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 4: I like this too. In the stream, team Flex one 882 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 4: fifty five asked at the beginning of the show, how 883 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 4: does Wenby take a shower? 884 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: How does he take a shower? As in, like the 885 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: shower head's too low. 886 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: I mean they're on the road all the time. These 887 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 4: hotel rooms, they don't have Wemby height showers for the 888 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 4: most part. I did hear on a podcast recently that 889 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 4: he has a bed extender that the Spurs travel with 890 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 4: so that he can fit his entire body onto a 891 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 4: hotel bed. I don't know how they would do that 892 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 4: for a shower head. 893 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're high enough, Like there's there's a 894 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: multiple in a hotel. I'm not saying the standard is 895 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: high enough. That's not high enough for Victor Webby know, 896 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: but I think the standard hotel process is we've got 897 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: a few that are I'll high. 898 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: We'll put you in the tallest shower room. Yeah, it's like. 899 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: High enough. That's what I'm guessing. 900 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: He's used to it. 901 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely. 902 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 4: These are not the first time he's encountered a short 903 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 4: shower head. 904 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine in France. I imagine if he's gonna go ahead. 905 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: Hand held, think he uses the wand well yeah, well 906 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 5: French bathrooms are like that anyways, it's all handheld, so yeah. 907 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 4: Right, right, right, Maybe maybe he request a handheld shower. Yeah, 908 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 4: when he's like, oh yeah, it's part of his rider, 909 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 4: put me up. Good to know. Hopefully we'll get him 910 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: on the show someday and they'll be the first thing 911 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 4: we asked, how do you shower? Sir? 912 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: Let's jump to the number one seed in the Eastern 913 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: Conference that got a good win without their guy who 914 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: has fallen down in the MVP race discussion. Kate Conneyham 915 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: is injured right now, as we know, with the the 916 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: mild lung collapse. As Sean Shrine you put it, it 917 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: should be hopefully short term. The guy filling in Danis 918 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: Jenkins had his career high thirty points to knock down 919 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers and snap their nine game win streak. 920 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: Dannis Jenkins, who would have fuck guy? We've discussed what 921 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: we talked with Spencer Jones today. It's fitting Dan Jenkins, 922 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: same scenario twenty twenty four, undrafted, two two way contracts 923 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: and now a legitet full time NBA contract this season. 924 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: I can't believe we're talking this much about Danis Shankins. 925 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: How good he's been this season. 926 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been one of the best stories of the season. 927 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: Early on, it felt like maybe just the flash in 928 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 4: the pan. You know, an unknown guy can come in 929 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 4: and NBA players are so good, even the guys that 930 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 4: are undrafted, two way contract guys could score twenty in 931 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 4: a game. You know that can happen a couple of times. 932 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 4: But for Jenkins to actually have longevity, work his way 933 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 4: to getting a full contract, and then you know, we 934 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 4: call the game that he played in in January of 935 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, fourteen months later, the guy's a millionaire. 936 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: He's putting up a thirty point game and hitting like 937 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 4: a Shake Gill just Alexander style. Basically game winner against 938 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 4: the Lakers. You know, he gets into Reeves's body, gives 939 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 4: him a little chuck with the forearm, baseline fallaway. That's 940 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 4: a shot right there, went in the guys from Dallas. 941 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 4: He's twenty four years old. Surely he was a Luka 942 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 4: Doncic fan at one point in his career. And now 943 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 4: he's going shot for shot with him in the clutch 944 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: and coming out on top. Pretty sweet. 945 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And watching that team, we all say, who is 946 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: going to help out Kid Cunningham in a playoff series? 947 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: It could easily be Dannis Jenkins. There's I know we 948 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: have recency bias and maybe some people look at this 949 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: and say, now, is he going to be able to 950 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: do that in a playoff scenario. I think he can. 951 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: I think if you look at last year's playoffs when 952 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: they win six games with the New York Knicks in 953 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: a really really close series, Dennis Shrewder was their second 954 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: best player. He was their ball handler at the end 955 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,959 Speaker 1: of games. And a guy like Dennis Jenkins can play 956 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: alongside kid just like Dennis shrew did. He's not too small. 957 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: Even though he looks small, you're playing against or playing 958 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: with a six to six guy in Kate Cunningham, so 959 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: I think that can work out for them. It all depends. 960 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: But at an end of game scenario, he may play 961 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: over Duncan Robinson or Thompson probably not a star. It's 962 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: definitely Kate Jalen Duran out there, and it's probably Tobias Harris, 963 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: but you could squeeze in Danis Jenkins to play beside 964 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: Kate because he can create for himself. He can get 965 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: to that baseline, and he said he's just so quick, 966 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: whether it's a pickup top but as a secondary ball 967 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: handler like Dennis Shuder was, you could see situations like 968 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: this where he gets the ball and make shots three 969 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter makes for him to get up to thirty 970 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: points and then finish finished with that last one with 971 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves there on the baseline. I mean, there were 972 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: some fun plays where he the play kind of just exploded. 973 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: He was just was able just to take it from 974 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: way beyond three point line to the rim. So it 975 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: was just a fun game all in all. There was 976 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: a reason that line was so teeny tiny. I thought 977 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: now looking back right ooh, the Lakers. The Lakers were 978 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: trying to flip the switch, and I think they kind 979 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: of did. They were down like sixteen a half, basically 980 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: got it all back third quarter, and it was a 981 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: shot for shot game in the fourth. Luca had two 982 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: shots in the final thirty seconds for the Lakers. I 983 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: think either of them were all that great. The best 984 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: play Lakers ran in the final minute was the bucket 985 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: that Austin Reeves got where he kind of like faked 986 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: the hand off to Luca, went straight to the hoop 987 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: and scored immediately. That was before Jenkins hit his little 988 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 1: baseline jumper, but Luca was isoed on Kevin Herder ended 989 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: up taking a weird fade away and then that was 990 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: a worst shot to me than the one on Duran 991 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: in the last couple of seconds, where they just were 992 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: trying to get up a shot to tie the game 993 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: being down three and he just had to chuck up 994 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: a fade away. We've seen JJ dial up some great 995 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: ended game plays in the past couple of weeks while 996 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: the Lakers have been on this streak, and it wasn't 997 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: either of those though, unfortunately last night. So I thought 998 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 1: maybe the Lakers overlooked a cadless Pistons team. Yeahb being 999 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: on a roll. 1000 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 4: You see, they don't have their best player. We should 1001 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 4: be able to go out there and give one half 1002 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 4: of it effort and beat these guys. But Dannis Jenkins said, 1003 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 4: not tonight. 1004 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: Not tonight. Dannis Jenkins such a fun name to say. Yeah, 1005 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: maybe that fourth quarter. I always wonder who is going 1006 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: to help Kate, and I always believe it's got to 1007 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: come from this guy or this guy. This It's got 1008 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: to sort of be done by committee in all honesty, 1009 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: But that fourth quarter to see Jenkins go off to 1010 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: see Tobias Harris be relied on to make a couple 1011 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: of key buckets. Kevin Hurder threw one in there, and 1012 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: the Jalen Durham School in Jackson Hayes on that one 1013 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: play with the spin was beautiful stuff. But it kind 1014 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: of has to be done by committee. We'll see, hopefully 1015 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: Kate comes back to lead that team. Moving on, We've 1016 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: got a couple more games to talk about. Let's stay 1017 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. For that Pacers Magic game, it 1018 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: was a wild one. I thought, Yes, siakam thirty seven 1019 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: points and a game ceiling block on Paula Boncaro to 1020 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: end it, who had thirty nine himself. It went down 1021 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: to the wire, just an interesting couple of teams there 1022 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: on both sides. 1023 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 4: Well, like I said, the Pacers are going to get 1024 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 4: to twenty straight losses. I literally said that on yesterday's show. 1025 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 4: But in the second quarter, Pascal Siakam banked in a 1026 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 4: three pointer and it wasn't even a clean bank where 1027 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 4: like glass swish, this was glass. Brimm Rim finally drops 1028 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 4: in the Magic announcer say, uh uh is it going 1029 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 4: to be that kind of night? It was that kind 1030 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 4: of night for the Pacers. Thirty seven for Siakam, sixteen 1031 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 4: of thirty five three point shooting for Indiana and the 1032 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 4: offense I thought was coming pretty easily for the Pacers. 1033 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 4: It was either a Siakam post up, whether at the 1034 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 4: high post or down in the low post. He was 1035 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 4: getting into his bag the way he likes to to do, 1036 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 4: or it was a transition bucket or a ton of 1037 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 4: driving kick three pointers. The hard Dog Andrew nemhard fourteen 1038 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 4: assists had a big step back three with a minute 1039 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 4: and a half left in the Magic were rallying. 1040 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: The hard Dog. 1041 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 4: The hard dog hey Man was doing it. We haven't 1042 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 4: talked about him at all, but he came up as 1043 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 4: a potential nard dog yesterday we said, no, he's the 1044 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 4: hard dog, and then he played a great game. If 1045 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 4: the name is gonna stick, we got to use it. 1046 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 4: We talked about him a lot at the beginning of 1047 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 4: the year as a potential most improved player missed some 1048 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 4: time this year. The Pacers obviously have not had a 1049 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 4: good season, hasn't come up on the show hardly at all. 1050 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 4: But he played well last night. Siakam played well last night, 1051 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 4: And I'm watching this game, I'm thinking Pascal Siakam was 1052 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 4: an All Star this year. Yeah, they've got like sixteen wins. 1053 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 4: It's got to be the fewest wins for an All Star. 1054 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 4: That was pretty weird. But he deserved it. You can 1055 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 4: see he's a great player and he was great last night. 1056 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, their story is amazing to me, and that Pascal 1057 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: Siakam is playing all the time. A lot of their 1058 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: guys playing all the time. After going to the NBA 1059 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: Finals and they stink. They're just so bad, having lost 1060 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: sixteen going into this game. It's just such a wild 1061 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: season for them. This pick that they're getting their own 1062 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: pick that they got during last year's finals. They made 1063 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: the trade with the New Orleans Pelicans to get back 1064 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: their trade their draft pick that they originally traded to 1065 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: the Raptors for Pascal Siakam. It was then traded to 1066 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: New Orleans for Brandon Ingram to go to Toronto, and 1067 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: then the Pacers we're doing something financial there where they said, here, 1068 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: you can have our draft pick for this year in 1069 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 1: New Orleans. We're taking the twenty six to one back 1070 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: because we want to move our money back, and that's 1071 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: why they got rid of Miles Turner. Then all of 1072 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, they're this bad team, but they keep playing 1073 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: throughout the end of the season, and that's why they're 1074 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: fun to watch. On the other side, you mentioned why 1075 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: it was too easy for Indiana offensively, and the fast 1076 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: breakpoints were really the disappointing part watching Orlando for me, 1077 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: that they're here at the end of the season, they're 1078 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: fighting for position and to allow running plays runs off 1079 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: of makes was wrong. The Pacers are so good at 1080 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: that flashed me back to last year and watching them 1081 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot in the playoffs when they needed to make 1082 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: something happen. They'll run on Max, no problem, and they 1083 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,919 Speaker 1: beat him twenty six to fourteen fast breaks in this game. 1084 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: And then the points off turnovers. Yeah, it was a 1085 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: real up and down game. It started down for the 1086 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: Magic and then they came back, but I don't know. 1087 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: The Palo Bancaro thirty nine. It was awesome, but at 1088 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: the same time, their offense just kind of stalled with 1089 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: him and the ball. It just wasn't moving fast enough. 1090 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,439 Speaker 1: So their end of the season here is really fun. 1091 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: I know one of our stream teamers here said, maybe 1092 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: we're in a scenario where we're gonna get what happened 1093 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: to Michael Malone with the Denver Nuggets last year or 1094 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: Taylor Jenkins with Memphis last year, where we have a 1095 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 1: late season firing of Jamal Mosley. I think he kind 1096 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: of gets away with it because they've got Franz coming back, 1097 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: and you probably don't want a new coach getting thrown 1098 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: into a job where you are also I have to 1099 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: integrate your top player or top one a type of guy. 1100 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 1: But TBD, it is an interesting one where we debated 1101 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: last year that or last week. I should say the 1102 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: coaches on the hot Seat and Joan mostly definitely one 1103 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: of them. Just a disappointing game. 1104 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did our Coaches on the Hot Seat draft 1105 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 4: on Friday, and I think you took mostly first. Yeah, right, 1106 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 4: and at the time I was like, yeah, yeah, I 1107 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 4: agree with you that he's a hot seat guy, but 1108 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 4: he shouldn't be first. But that was because the Magic 1109 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 4: had gone on a seven game wins break and they 1110 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 4: followed it up by losing five straight. The inconsistency has 1111 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 4: been a hallmark of the Magic the entire season, and 1112 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 4: I'm totally with you. They got caught playing a Pacers 1113 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 4: style game last night, and that's not the style that 1114 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 4: they need to be playing. They forced hardly any turnovers, 1115 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 4: like you're saying. It was run out after runout for Indiana, 1116 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 4: and I didn't think when Paolo got the ball on 1117 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 4: that last play, they ran like he was wide open. 1118 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 4: He could have turned an attack that looked like he 1119 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 4: was caught trying to run the play for lack of 1120 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 4: a better word, like he catches the ball, he turns, 1121 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 4: he looks he's trying to get bane on a cut 1122 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 4: straight down the hoop, but like there was nobody near him. 1123 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 4: He gave Siakama chance to recover, get a body into him, 1124 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 4: and then there was help inside from Jay Huff at 1125 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 4: the rim. So that just looked like an out of 1126 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 4: sorts game for the Magic. I tend to side on 1127 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 4: the side of there won't be a firing the last 1128 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 4: two weeks of the season because it rarely happens, but 1129 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 4: it happened twice last year, so anything is on the table. 1130 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 4: I think this is a big Playoffs for Orlando to 1131 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 4: see how the pieces fit and what sort of performance 1132 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 4: they can get and if they can even get out 1133 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 4: of the play in tournament. 1134 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is an odd one watching a guy who 1135 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: scored thirty nine points last night in Paolo Boncaro. You know, 1136 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: I didn't do the math to see how long that 1137 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: ball sticks in his hands, but I just think at 1138 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: the beginning he definitely he checks out everything and he 1139 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: takes his time to do that. But I think sometimes 1140 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: that this magic don't benefit from that to just induce 1141 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more movement. Either way, he is fantastic. 1142 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: They've got to figure out some consistency. There's no doubt 1143 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: they didn't have Jalen Suggs last night, but I thought 1144 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: Javon Carter was very good for most of the night. 1145 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: But either way, an interesting story there. 1146 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 4: Let's go ron Carter had two points tasks, yeah, I know, 1147 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 4: and zero assists. He went one for five. Yeah, I know, 1148 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 4: what part of the night. 1149 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: Was he good right away? He's a better I just 1150 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 1: like Jaalen. I know Jalen Suggs, he's missed, there's no doubt. 1151 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: But but Javon Carter is way better than anything they 1152 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 1: had with Tyas Jones this year. So you know, he 1153 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: didn't have a great night. Stats aside, numbers aside. He 1154 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: was a minus seventeen last night. 1155 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 2: Not so good. 1156 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: But it's still I don't I think the excuse of 1157 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, when Jalen Suggs doesn't play, you say, oh, 1158 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: this team just doesn't have anything. I think that's gone 1159 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: to have at least Chevon Carter know how to run 1160 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 1: the offense. But overall, like when Tyas Jones was there, 1161 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: we just expect some good shots like something. He got nothing. 1162 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 1: I would say Jalen Suggs is better. Excuse me, John 1163 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: Carter's better at doing nothing than Tyas Jones. Is better 1164 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: Tyas Jones at doing nothing? Better nothing guy Jalen Suggs. 1165 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: I keep on saying Javon Carter or Tias Jones's got. 1166 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 4: To be trun somebody's got to have an opinion. 1167 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to Okay, see Jalen Williams 1168 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: returned hadn't played a game since February, ninth month and 1169 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: a half off for Jdubb eighteen point six assists. Okay 1170 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: See winning their twelfth straight taking care of Philly. What 1171 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: did you think of Jalen Williams. 1172 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 4: I thought he looked like Jalen Williams. Like he was driving, 1173 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 4: he was cutting, He had a lot of tough finishes 1174 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 4: through contact, he was playmaking. I think he was maybe 1175 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 4: two for five on jumpers, which is, you know, not 1176 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 4: the greatest percentage, but at least he was taking them confidently. 1177 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 4: I also thought maybe he looked a little skinnier than 1178 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 4: he has and I think of him as a thick, 1179 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 4: burly guy, and he looks pretty trim to me. But 1180 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 4: maybe it was just because I haven't seen him on 1181 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 4: the court for a while and he's usually wearing some big, 1182 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 4: baggy pants. But I thought a pretty solid debut for Williams. 1183 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 4: Eighteen points on eight of fourteen shooting, and like I said, 1184 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 4: he was in the lane, he was looking quick, he 1185 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 4: was running the court. He was just doing the things 1186 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 4: you expect from Jalen Williams. 1187 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was really solid, hamstring looking good. We were 1188 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: worried earlier this season he hit the right wrist and 1189 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: maybe his shooting wouldn't come around. Look, he hasn't had 1190 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: incredible percentages this season. That being said, last year he 1191 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a great year either shooting wise, and his 1192 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: playoffs weren't super efficient. So I'm not so worried about that. 1193 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: They still found a way. The guy needs to cut 1194 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: and that's probably the most important thing, Like he just 1195 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be super efficient every single night, but 1196 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: he needs to come through with some big games and 1197 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: I think he's very, very capable of that, and he's 1198 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: looking solid here in game number one. They probably kept 1199 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: him out that month and a half because they were 1200 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: going to make sure he was healthy, and he looks 1201 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: it right away. Any other games in the NBA that 1202 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about, because it was a ten 1203 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: game night and we you know, we plowed through five 1204 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: real quick. 1205 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. It was a big slate after a light slate 1206 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 4: over the weekend with the NCAA tournament, Going Bowls Rockets 1207 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 4: was a hilarious game. My guy, big shot Boozellis came 1208 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 4: through in matas March twenty three points. Josh Giddy hit 1209 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 4: a three pointer then he found Bozellis for a three pointer, 1210 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 4: and then the game ender, in my view, a nice 1211 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 4: take on Reed Shepherd where Matus Buzzellis, big Boydo got 1212 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 4: to a lefty layup. That was pretty cool. 1213 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: That was cool. The speaking of lefty, then Nikhil Alexander 1214 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: Walker dunk, which it was lefty against the Grizzlies. He 1215 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,359 Speaker 1: impressed himself. I mean he immediately got the camera right 1216 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: in front of him and he was he was one. 1217 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 1: Did I just do that? I mean that has to 1218 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: be the dunk of his career. 1219 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 4: Imagine oh yes, I mean not being able to recall 1220 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 4: them all permanently right away. Yeah, that was awesome. 1221 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: That was so good. Yeah, they smashed. They hit twenty 1222 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,280 Speaker 1: five threes against the zombie Grizzlies. That ties their franchise 1223 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,240 Speaker 1: high one hundred and forty six points. 1224 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 2: Wow. 1225 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, big big win against the Grizzlies. 1226 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 4: Who is number seventy seven on the Grizzlies. Because that 1227 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 4: was the guy that hustled back like he Dejean Giureau. 1228 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 4: That guy works hard to get dunked on by Nikhil 1229 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 4: Alexander Walker, and I felt like Walker kind of slowed 1230 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 4: up to maybe give him a chance and to make 1231 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 4: the dunk look better. That was pretty sweet. 1232 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1233 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: I had to look that one up too, Like, who 1234 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,959 Speaker 1: is seventy seven? Was that a I thought at first 1235 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: it was a Javan small being a little guy. But 1236 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: how tall was number seventy seven out there? Because he 1237 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: looked not quite tall enough on that one, not quite, 1238 00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: didn't think, No, Dejean Guireau, John Foschireau, the mustard Man himself. 1239 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 1: I went to school at Houston. Maybe it's Houston's time 1240 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,280 Speaker 1: to get dunked on this weekend. Bad bad connection. 1241 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 4: Maybe. Anyway, let's move on to hold on a couple, 1242 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 4: a couple of loves here, Markel Folts, he's on the Raptors. 1243 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,439 Speaker 1: He's on the Raptors, baby yep. 1244 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 4: Ten days undefeated in the Markel Folts era. I saw 1245 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 4: Skeets tweeted, and I'm sure Skeets was happy to see 1246 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 4: Ace Bailey going for thirty seven points last night in 1247 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 4: a loss for the Jazz hit seven threes and had 1248 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 4: a cool celebration. They're all doing like the three fingers 1249 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,919 Speaker 4: with also across his head with an X. I don't 1250 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 4: know what it means, but I like to see the innovation. 1251 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we discussed that yesterday. 1252 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1253 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: It's it's simple. 1254 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 5: They like it. 1255 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 1: They like him. 1256 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 4: It just looks good. 1257 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: They like that dude, so great, great end of season. 1258 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: Would you say he had thirty thirty seven points? Yeah, 1259 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean he is he is cooking here, Yeah, doing well, 1260 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: shooting it from three. That's a lot of points. All right, 1261 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: moving on any others? No, okay, let's get to a 1262 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: bull boy of the night, the stat line of the night. 1263 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: It's fitting, it's me because it's about composting. 1264 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 2: Let's go. 1265 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: This is from Henry Owen. Want to share his worm 1266 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: composting book. Yeah, listen, listen to this quote. There are 1267 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: levels to composting, just like recycling, and worm composting known 1268 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: as vermi composting is the top. So Henry's wrote a 1269 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: book about how to start a worm bin. I can't 1270 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: wait to read that. Henry. 1271 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 4: I think about getting into worm composting. Huh. Yeah. 1272 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: When they when when you say worm composting, does that 1273 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: mean indoor? Because that's immediately what I think when it 1274 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: comes to worm composting, I think it is you. 1275 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 4: Would bring the worms inside? You could? You could? Yeah, 1276 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean I haven't read the book yet. 1277 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: I haven't read it yet either. But you're composting outdoors. 1278 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting you mentioned that. I am. I still 1279 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 4: got my composters outside, but you gifted me a loa me. 1280 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, indoor composter, which just seems to me to 1281 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 4: just basically incinerate all of my food waste and mix 1282 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 4: it up. Yeah, I think so, But I've been doing that, 1283 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 4: been doing it inside, take it and dump it into 1284 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 4: my compost bin outside. 1285 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. 1286 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 4: It's like two layers of composting. If I throw the 1287 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 4: worms in there, you can't touch my compost. 1288 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: I wish I could say the same. And that's why 1289 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to reading this book. I've got some issues. 1290 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: My eggshells not decomposing, my avocado peels not decomposing. Is 1291 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: it on me? 1292 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 4: Am? 1293 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: I not putting enough browns in there? Not enough carbon 1294 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: in there? I don't I thought I was not enough air, 1295 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: not enough water. I don't know. But I'll be reading 1296 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: Henry's book. 1297 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I to start a worm Bin by Henry Owen. 1298 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 4: I love it. I'm he got worms, that's the name 1299 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 4: of the store. 1300 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to bring worms inside, but Henry, you know, 1301 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I think those people are Yeah, some people do it. 1302 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Henry could swaye me. We'll see. My wife will hate me, 1303 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: but I don't care. The whoe Boy, the worm Boy 1304 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: of the Day, stateline of the night is Alperin Shengo okay, 1305 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: because he was efficient, yes thirty three on sixteen of 1306 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: nineteen from the floor in that loss to the Bulls, 1307 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: thirteen boards, ten assists, two steals and two blocks. 1308 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 4: He had a great he had a great game, but 1309 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 4: he absolutely got cooked by Leonard Miller. On one take 1310 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 4: the ball gets kicked to the corner, Leonard Miller hits 1311 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 4: him with the jebs that baseline for the bays slam 1312 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 4: a gym a seventeen points ty in a career high. 1313 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 4: But not the whoe Boy of the night. That one 1314 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 4: goes to Alperin Shengon, the goon Man, the worm Boy. 1315 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: The worm Boy moving on to uh the pick them 1316 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 1: for tonight because we had Spencer Jones on the show 1317 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: to go with Denver at Phoenix. It's also it may 1318 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: be the smallest line. 1319 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 4: If I'm not in Chunky Scud tonight. 1320 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,439 Speaker 1: No, just four games and yeah it is the smallest line. 1321 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 1: King's Hornets. That's a minus seventeen for the Hornets at home, 1322 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Hello Nicks, Pelicans. That could be the best game. Eight 1323 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: and a half Cleveland Orlando. They're favored by ten and 1324 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: a half against Orlando. Seems a little bake either way. 1325 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: We're doing Denver at Phoenix. You guys both picked Denver, 1326 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: so I had to take Phoenix. I had no choice here. 1327 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: We've got we've got six games remaining. There is a 1328 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: four or if there's only a two game difference between 1329 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: yourself Skeets. So nothing's going to change tonight because you 1330 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: both took Denver. 1331 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean maybe we'll pick up a game 1332 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 4: on you get us all into the mix here. 1333 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: It's possible. It's very very possible. 1334 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 4: Soun's been struggling. They won their last game, but we're 1335 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 4: on a losing streak prior to that. Meanwhile, Denver getting 1336 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 4: the healthy guest they can. 1337 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Right now, I'll be watching Spencer Jones and see how 1338 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: he Spencer Jones, see how he performs considering he's in 1339 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Phoenix and walking up at seven am. They don't do 1340 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: daylight savings time there in Arizona. Oh no, no, So 1341 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 1: they matched up to the Pacific and it's an eleven 1342 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: PM eastern start, so I guess eight pm local That 1343 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: is pretty late for them. We'll see how he does 1344 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: after that wake up. He's taken a nap. I'm sure 1345 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: I did like that. 1346 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 4: He mentioned that the Nuggets arrived in Phoenix yesterday. We've 1347 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 4: been hearing a lot about arrival times. So he's got 1348 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 4: early wake up. But at least he got to relax 1349 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 4: in Phoenix. Yeah, get some good bedtime in. 1350 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Look like a nice hotel. 1351 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 4: All right, that's it. 1352 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow again. Four game slate, so not 1353 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of games. I don't know if we're dipping 1354 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: into the mail bag or something else, but we'll. 1355 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 4: Have Maybe it's a good idea. 1356 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got some grad emails that have come in 1357 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: at No Dunk's Ink at GMAS dot com, so we 1358 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: could definitely get into those. 1359 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 1360 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: What for now, our friends, Clipper bros. 1361 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1362 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us, and remember 1363 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 4: it's okay to bring worms in your house as long 1364 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:16,959 Speaker 4: as they're in a box. 1365 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Borrow bin y, Yes, I'm binning it. 1366 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta ben it. I don't know what's that 1367 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna been your worms. 1368 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm binning. Yeah, what kind of box you're talking like? 1369 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 2: Just a cardboard book. 1370 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that. It would be very nervous about 1371 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 4: the the seepage and then the worms pillage, of course. 1372 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, worms creeping around everywhere. 1373 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 4: You want worms creeping at all, Keep them in a bin. 1374 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 4: Get a good bin. Get Owen, Henry Owen's book that 1375 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 4: I'll tell you the precise worms to get and the 1376 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 4: precise bins to get, so you don't get worms in 1377 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 4: your house, just in your bin. 1378 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: This better be a good book, Henry. I can't wait 1379 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: to read it. We'll see tomorrow, everybody. 1380 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 4: Bye,