1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy new Wilson and I'm Holly Frying. Anniversary of 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the Flint sit down strike is this month. That's marked 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: as starting on December six, But that name and they 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: don't quite capture the whole of the strike. Flint, Michigan 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: was absolutely at the heart of auto manufacturing for General Motors, 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: and the strike was largely centered around Flint, but this 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: strike also involved workers at GM factories all over the 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: United States. And while the major strike activity in Flint 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: started on December, it also followed earlier strikes in other 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: parts of Michigan and in other states. So this name 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: and date, as they're commonly known, it's really a little 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: bit broader than that. We have talked about several strikes 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: on the show before, including strikes in the United States, Canada, England, 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: and Ireland, but this one in particular has been cited 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: as one of the most significant and influential strikes in 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: United States labor history, and this strike took place while 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the world was still trying to recover from the Great Depression. 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: This economic catastrophe had of course been devastating to people 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: all over the globe. General Motors in particular, had cut 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: nearly half of its staff while also increasing requirements for 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: workers productivity and implementing seasonal layoffs. Although the company would 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: loan money to laid off workers, they had to pay 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: it back out of their wages once they were back 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: on the job. But even people who had steady work 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: at GM during the Great Depression didn't really have a 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: sense of job security. There were so many people who 29 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: were out of work and just desperate for jobs that 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: the company knew it could fire anyone for essentially any 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: reason and have a replacement waiting immediately. This was especially 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: true in places like Flint, where GM was by far 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the biggest employer. The US government took various steps to 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: try to bolster the nation's economy during the depression. One 35 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: was the National Industrial Recovery Act of ninety three. This 36 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: was part of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, and 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: he signed it into law during his first one hundred 38 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: days in office. This was an act quote to encourage 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: national industrial recovery, to foster fair competition, to provide for 40 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: the construction of certain useful public works, and for other purposes. 41 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: The National Industrial Recovery Acts suspended a lot of the 42 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: antitrust legislation that we talked about recently in our episodes 43 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: on Ida Tarbell. Instead, this Act encouraged businesses to form 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: alliances and to establish codes of fair competition. These codes 45 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: were meant to apply across whole end streets, setting standards 46 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: for things like consumer protections, fair wages, and prices for goods. 47 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: The idea was that these codes would reduce unfair business 48 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: practices that we're making it harder for struggling businesses to 49 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: stay afloat during the crisis, so things like undercutting competitors 50 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: prices to the point that they just could not go 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: that low. Section seven A of the Act read quote, 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Every code of fair competition, agreement, and license, approved, prescribed, 53 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: or issued under this Title shall contain the following conditions. 54 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: One that employees shall have the right to organize and 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and shall 56 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: be free from the interference, restraint, or coercion of employers 57 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: of labor or their agents in the designation of such representatives, 58 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: or in self organization or in other concerted activities for 59 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection. Too, 60 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: That no employee, and no one seeking employe meant, shall 61 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: be required, as a condition of employment, to join any 62 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: company union, or to refrain from joining, organizing, or assisting 63 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: a labor organization of his own choosing. And three that 64 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: employers shall comply with the maximum hours of labor, minimum 65 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: rates of pay, and other conditions of employment approved or 66 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: prescribed by the President. This Act contained lots of provisions 67 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: that we haven't gotten into here, including authorizing the presidents 68 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: to establish a federal Emergency Administration of Public Works. But 69 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: in terms of the Flint sit down strike, Section seven 70 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: A was key. It protected employees right to organize and 71 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: bargain collectively, and this was a huge deal. Although the 72 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: term collective bargaining had been coined by British social reformer 73 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Beatrice web In, workers have been trying to work together 74 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: to secure better pay and working conditions for centuries, and 75 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: in the US trade unions, other efforts to collectively bargain 76 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: had been illegal. They were treated as criminal conspiracies. The 77 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: National Industrial Recovery Act was the first federal law legalizing 78 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: union membership and collective bargaining, but in general, employers were 79 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: reluctant to comply with various provisions of the Act. There 80 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: were also questions about whether the Supreme Court would find 81 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: it to be unconstitutional. Some employers used this uncertainty to 82 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: justify their non compliance with the law, and they kept 83 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: working directly against their employees legal right to unionize. As 84 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: a result, labor disputes, including strikes, surged as workers and 85 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: their unions fought for the kinds of rights and protections 86 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: they were legally entitled to, and some of these disputes 87 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: led to violence. In August of nineteen thirty three, Roosevelt 88 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: established the National Labor Board, chaired by Senator Robert F. 89 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Wagner of New York, to try to mediate between the 90 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: growing labor movement and industry leaders. In addition to Wagner, 91 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: the board had six members, three each representing labor and industry. 92 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: But the board really didn't have much enforcement power. Companies 93 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: that were operating under one of the codes that had 94 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: been established under the new law were allowed to display 95 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: an emblem of a blue eagle, and all that the 96 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: NLB could really do when companies stopped following the rules 97 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: was to make them take their eagle down. In May 98 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: of ninety five, the Supreme Court issued its decision in 99 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: Scheckter Poultry Corps versus United States, which did indeed find 100 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: the National Industrial Recovery Act to be unconstitutional. At the 101 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: same time, though the act's industrial provisions were supposed to 102 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: expire after two years or sooner if the President or 103 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: Congress decided they were no longer needed, this decision came 104 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: just a few weeks before that expiration date. A big 105 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: reason behind that decision was that this Act delegated a 106 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of legis aative power to the president without really 107 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: setting guidelines on how the president could use that power. Uh. 108 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: It was not the whole decision, obviously, but that's sort 109 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: of the crux. People were divided as to whether or 110 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: to what extent this Act had been effective at what 111 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: it set out to do. It was supposed to quote, 112 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: remove obstructions to the free flow of interstate and foreign commerce. 113 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: It was supposed to do that by reducing labor disputes, 114 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: reducing unfair competitive practices, and making sure industries were working 115 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: at full capacity. It had generally improved workers pay and 116 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: working conditions, and it had cut down on some of 117 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the competitive practices that were undermining the economic recovery, but 118 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: it was also blamed for things like making various goods 119 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: more expensive and slowing the pace of production. The government 120 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: still had a vested interest in this idea of removing 121 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: obstructions to interstate commerce, including obstructions that stemmed from labor disputes, 122 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: and of her activists were advocating for the protections that 123 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: had been part of the National Industrial Recovery Act to 124 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: be restored. This led to the National Labor Relations Act, 125 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: introduced by Senator Wagner and also called the Wagner Act, 126 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: which was signed into law on July six. This was 127 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: an act to quote diminish the causes of labor disputes 128 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: burdening or obstructing interstate and foreign commerce, to create a 129 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: National Labor Relations Board, and for other purposes. The Act 130 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: applied to all employers involved in interstate commerce, with the 131 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: exception of airlines, railroads, agriculture, and the government. It framed 132 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: employers refusal to respect their employees right to unionize or 133 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: to accept collective burgaining as the cause of industrial strife 134 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: leading to strikes and other unrest. The Act also noted 135 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: that companies have a lot more of power than their 136 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: employees do especially when those employees aren't protected by a 137 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: fair contra act or allowed to collectively bargain. It once 138 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: again legalized employees right to organize an outlawed employers interference 139 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: with that right, and it also empowered the National Labor 140 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Relations Board to oversee this whole process and mediate disputes. 141 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: But since the Supreme Court had overturned the National Industrial 142 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: Recovery Act, many employers expected the National Labor Relations Act 143 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: to be struck down as well. Even though the law 144 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: barred employers from interfering with employees right to unionize, many 145 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: employers kept doing exactly that, things like hiring detectives to investigate, 146 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: spy on and harass union organizers and members, establishing company 147 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: unions that really represented the interest of the business rather 148 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: than its employees, and firing or demoting people who were 149 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: suspected of organizing or joining a union. So this brings 150 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: us to the US automotive industry and specifically to Flint, Michigan, 151 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: which we will get to after a spot a break. 152 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: The American Federation of Labor was established in the late 153 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: nineteenth century to bring craft and trade unions together under 154 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: one umbrella. It's first member unions represented people like tailor's, 155 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: iron molders and carpenters, and in its early years, the 156 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: a f L did not work with industrial unions at all. 157 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Craft unions representing people like carpenters were considered to represent 158 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: skilled workers, while industrial workers, so people who worked on 159 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: factory assembly lines were thought of as unskilled. But around 160 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: the time the Wagner Act was passed, the a f 161 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: L established a Committee for Industrial Organization. This committee soon 162 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: split off from the a f L and it re 163 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: established itself as its own organization was the Congress of 164 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Industrial Organizations. United Auto Workers was established in Detroit, Michigan 165 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: in ninety five, and at first it became part of 166 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the a f L, and like the a f L, 167 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: its initial focus was mainly on the automotive industry skilled workers, 168 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: not the people who worked on assembly lines in factories. 169 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: But when the CIO split off from the a f L, 170 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: the United Auto Workers went to Soon the u a 171 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: W was trying to organize factory workers, especially at the 172 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: Big three automakers GM, Ford, and Chrysler. GM was the 173 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: largest auto manufacturer in the world at the time, with 174 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: sixty nine plants in thirty five cities, many in the Midwest. Initially, 175 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: the U a W focused more on GM and Chrysler. 176 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: Because Henry Ford was vehemently anti union, GM actively worked 177 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: against these unionization efforts. According to information unearthed and Senate 178 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: committee hearings, between nineteen thirty four and nine six, GM 179 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: spent more than eight hundred thirty nine thousand dollars on 180 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: labor detective services, more than half of it paid to 181 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: the Pinkerton's. This detective work involved everything from investigating union 182 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: organizers to planting spies within the union, to harassing and 183 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: threatening workers. This Congressional committee described GM's spy work as 184 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: quote a monument to the most colossal supersystem of spies 185 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: yet devised in any American corporation. There are also reports 186 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: that GM conscripted an organization known as the Black Legion 187 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: to intimidate and threaten its employees. The Black Legion was 188 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: compared to the KKK and was aggressively anti union, and 189 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: this went beyond targeting the union itself and the workers 190 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: at the factories. Part of GM's union busting effort involved 191 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: telling mail workers wives that their husband's union activities, we're 192 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: going to get them fired, as well as convincing women 193 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: that their husbands were up to no good, suggesting that 194 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: they were out late partying or soliciting sex workers, or 195 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: that they were lying about the union and that they 196 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: were really spending their after work time having extramarital affairs. 197 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: As u AW organizers tried to unionize GMS factories, they 198 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: were working against all of this, and they were finding 199 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: common themes among the workers grievances from plants a plant. 200 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: A lot of it was in line with what we 201 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: already discussed, like firings that seemed arbitrary or retaliatory. The 202 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: factories were also poorly ventilated, and during periods of hot weather, 203 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: workers passed out or even died from overheating, with their 204 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: coworkers expected to keep working until someone came to remove 205 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: the body. Many of the jobs were dangerous, including working 206 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: around dangerous substances with no ventilation or protective equipment. There 207 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: was also an immense focus on speed, to the point 208 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: that workers on the assembly line did not have time 209 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom. There was also nobody who 210 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: could cover for a person who became ill or injured 211 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: on the job. Workers talked about people who got sick 212 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: during the day and kept working on the assembly line 213 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: even though they were vomiting. There was also speed up 214 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: during peak production times, with workers expected to complete their 215 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: tasks on the assembly line at seemingly superhuman speeds. If 216 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: a factory was in danger of missing its daily quota, 217 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: speed up would start near the end of people's shifts, 218 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: when they were already exhausted. For many workers, take home 219 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: pay was not the biggest issue, but the way wages 220 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: were calculated was a problem. Many workers on the line 221 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: weren't paid an hourly or a daily rate. They were 222 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: paid by the piece, and the rate for each piece 223 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily stay the same. It was often set at 224 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: a higher amount at the start of a pay period 225 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: to encourage the workers to go as quickly as possible, 226 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: but then it would drop as pay day approached. People 227 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: wound up making less than they expected. In this whole 228 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: shifting pay rate felt like a bait and switch. Women 229 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: working at the GM factories faced an additional layer of hostility. 230 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Some reported being sexually harassed and even assaulted by their supervisors, 231 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: who would then use the assault as leverage to try 232 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: to guarantee the woman's compliance at work. All of these 233 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: factors fed into the sit down strike. Most of the 234 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: strikes that had taken place in the United States before 235 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: this point had involved workers leaving their job sites and 236 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: organizing things like picket lines, demonstrations, protests, pamphleteering, and speeches. 237 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: While the strike at GM and nine six and thirty 238 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: seven still involved things like picket lines and other activities 239 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: outside the building, those were primarily the work of the 240 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: striking workers supporters, because in a sit down strike, employees 241 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: stayed inside the factory, physically occupying it. This strategy had 242 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: some advantages for the striking workers. A typical strike could 243 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: only be effective if the vast majority of the workers participated. 244 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: If only a few people walked out, the company could 245 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: just redistribute their work among their coworkers or higher replacements 246 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: without too much trouble. But a sit down strike allowed 247 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: a smaller number of people to take control of the 248 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: whole workplace. Employers also couldn't simply hire replacement workers to 249 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: take over, since the striking workers had control of the building. 250 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: Remaining inside the workplace also gave the workers more protection 251 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: from violence. Employers were reluctant to remove workers by force 252 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: due to the risk of damaging expensive machinery and equipment, 253 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: but there were also some downsides. Striking workers had to 254 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: be separated from their families than their friends who didn't 255 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: work with them, depending on where the strike was taking place. 256 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: Striking workers didn't have access to things like bathing facilities 257 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: or adequate sleeping spaces, although some of the GM strikers 258 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: were able to make reasonably comfortable beds with the padding 259 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: that was used to make car seats. Sit down strikes 260 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: were also questionably legal at best, since strikers were essentially trespassing. 261 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: The idea that a few workers could decide to go 262 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: on strike and take over the whole building also ran 263 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: against the spirit of the National Labor Relations Act, which 264 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: was really focused on the idea of a majority of 265 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: employees forming a union and bargaining, not on a smaller 266 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: number of employees forcing the issue by occupying the building. 267 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: In the US, the first sit down strike is generally 268 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: noted as having happened in nineteen o six, when members 269 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: of the Industrial Workers of the World stopped working but 270 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: stayed at their stations at a General Electric factory and 271 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: Schenecta in New York. Workers in Europe started occupying their 272 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: workplaces after World War One, including roughly half of the 273 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: metal workers in Paris in the spring of nineteen thirty six, 274 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: and that led to sweeping labor reforms in France. In 275 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: the US, workers at a rubber plant in Akron, Ohio 276 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: sat down in early ninety six as well. Fisher Body 277 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: was a division of GM, and Fisher Body workers in 278 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Atlanta sat down at two different points in October and 279 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: November of ninety six, with the November strikes spreading to 280 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: other plants in the Atlanta area as well. Workers at 281 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: Bendix Products in South Bend, Indiana sat down in mid 282 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: November and mid December, workers sat down at two GM 283 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: plants in Kansas City, Missouri, and then at a body 284 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: stamping plant in Cleveland, Ohio, as well as the Kelsey 285 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Hayes wheel plant in Detroit, Michigan. All of these were 286 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: either divisions of our suppliers of GM. On December sixty six, 287 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: the u A W ast for a meeting with GM 288 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: upper management, but GM refused, maintaining that any collective bargaining 289 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: would have to happen at the local level, from plant 290 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: to plant. But the u A W argued that the 291 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: issues that it wanted to discuss, things like recognizing the 292 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: union for collective bargaining a seniority system for workers and 293 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: the tremendous speeds expected of workers on the line, where 294 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: things that applied for every GM factory in the nation. 295 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Late December also wasn't ideal for the u a W 296 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: to be planning a huge strike. Most of GM's workers 297 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: celebrated Christmas, so this was just not a great time 298 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: for people to lose their wages or to be separated 299 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: from their families. Since many of GM's factories were clustered 300 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: together in the Midwest, the weather at the end of 301 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: the year would probably not be all that conducive to 302 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: things like the pickets and the protests that were needed 303 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: to support the strike. And Michigan had elected a new governor, 304 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: Frank Murphy, who was expected to be far more sympathetic 305 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: to organize labor than his predecessor had been, but he 306 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: was not going to take office until January one. However, 307 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: workers themselves took this decision out of the u a 308 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: w's hands, and we're gonna get to that after we 309 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: pause for a sponsor break. As the u a W 310 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: tried to organize GM workers in Flint, Michigan, GM tried 311 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: to reduce its risk in the event of a strike. 312 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: On December six, the company transferred union members out of 313 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: its Chevrolet body stamping plant in Flint that was known 314 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: as Fisher Body number two. Then on December, the company 315 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: started removing the dies that were used to stamp out 316 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: body parts from another Flint plant, which was Fisher Body 317 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: number one. This was one of only two sets of 318 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: dies that GM was using to stamp out auto bodies, 319 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: and their removal from the plant represented not only a 320 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: loss of jobs because the people who did that work 321 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: would not have work to do anymore, but also a 322 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: loss of leverage. If the workers took over the plant 323 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: with the dies still in it, that would stop production 324 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: on multiple models of GM cars. So when the workers 325 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: at Fisher one realized what was happening with the dies, 326 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: they immediately started a strike, taking over the building, and 327 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: workers at Fisher two started striking on the same day. 328 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: There are also oral history testimony suggesting that another factor 329 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: might have been at work here as well. Flat glass 330 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: workers had also gone on strike, and that was leading 331 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: to a potential glass shortage for car manufacturing. If the 332 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: factories in Flint ran out of glass, production would shut 333 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: down anyway, so workers decided to strike before that could happen. 334 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: The strikes. Organizers decided that only men could occupy the 335 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: plants during the strike, so while there were women working 336 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: at GM, they could not be part of the sit down. 337 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: But women's participation in other aspects of the strike was 338 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: absolutely critic goal. The Women's Auxiliary, which was organized by 339 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: twenty three year old Genera Johnson, who was later Genera 340 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: Johnson Dollinger, set up a strike kitchen to feed the 341 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: striking workers and their families. They delivered food directly to 342 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: the factories. The Women's Auxiliary also did the striker's laundry, 343 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: and about three weeks into the strike, they started a 344 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: daycare for the striking workers children. They also brought children 345 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: to the factories to visit their family members, and they 346 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: picketed and did other work in support of the strike. 347 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: It took some time for some of these efforts to 348 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: get off the ground, in part because the company had 349 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: put so much effort into swing distrust of the union 350 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: among the workers wives who support the Women's Auxiliary needed. 351 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: In oral histories recorded in the nineteen eighties and nineties, 352 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: women described going to the factories after the strike started 353 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: expecting to drag their husbands out of some kind of 354 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: debauchery or a radical communist frenzy, but then staying to 355 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: help make food once they realized what was a ttually 356 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: going on. Whether they worked at GM or not, the 357 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: women involved in the auxiliary faced hostility from company supporters 358 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: and the strikes critics, including people questioning their morality and 359 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: implying that they were sex workers. We should note that 360 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: while there was not like a stereotypical screaming radical uh 361 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: conspiracy of communism happening in the strike, there were definitely 362 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: communists and socialists among the strikers and within the labor 363 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: movement in general. Both communism and socialism had and have 364 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: a focus on fair treatment of workers, so this is 365 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: not really that surprising. Genera Johnson Dollinger, for example, had 366 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: become a socialist at the age of sixteen. She was 367 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: one of the more radical people involved with the strike, 368 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: though many others had a general interest and communist or 369 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: socialist ideals while not formally being a member of either party. 370 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: And we should also take a moment to note that, 371 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: at least as far as we know, all the women 372 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: in the auxiliary in Flint were white. Although GM did 373 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: employ black people in its factories, they were only hired 374 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: in janitorial rules or to work in the foundry. Only 375 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: one black employee, Roscoe van Zant, is known to have 376 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: sat down in flint, during this strike. During the sit 377 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: down strike, workers inside the plants established rules for behavior, 378 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: including maintaining order, keeping things clean and organized, and mediating disputes. 379 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: As people were cooped up together for weeks, workers held 380 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: lectures and classes for one another. They read and played games, 381 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: and sang songs in order to keep their spirits up. 382 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Songs included a union anthem called Solidarity Forever that was 383 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: sung to the theme of the Battle Hymn of the Republic, 384 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: and at first GM's response was mostly not to engage. 385 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: GM president Alfred P. Sloan stated quote, we will not 386 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: negotiate with a union while it's agents forcibly hold possession 387 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: of our property. An executive vice president, William S. Knudsen, 388 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: called the striking workers trespassers and violators of the law 389 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: of the land. GM also argued that the union's bargaining 390 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: efforts were not legal under the National Labor Relations Act 391 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: since fewer than half of the employees had joined the union. 392 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: The U a W countered that GM had illegally interfered 393 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: with its effort to get workers to join, preventing it 394 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: from getting a larger membership. On January second, GM got 395 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: a court order to have the striking workers removed from 396 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: the factories, but the workers refused to go. Then it 397 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: became public knowledge that the judge who issued this injunction, 398 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: which was Edward D. Black, owned a whole bunch of 399 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: stock in GM. This was a clear conflict of interest. 400 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: People pretty much dropped the subject of trying to get 401 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: this um injunction enforced. On January fourth, the u a 402 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: W submitted a list of demands, including that the u 403 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: a W be given exclusive recognition as the bargaining agency 404 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: for workers at GM, abolishing the piece work system, a 405 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: thirty hour work week with time and a half for overtime, 406 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: minimum pay rates, the reinstatement of people who had been 407 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: fired unfairly, a seniority system, and a speed of production 408 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: that was mutually agreed upon by managers and a committee 409 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: from the union. But GM continued to refuse to negotiate. 410 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: On January eleven, ninety seven, GM turned off the heat 411 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: and electricity at Fisher two, even though the temperature that 412 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: day was only sixteen degrees fahrenheit or almost negative nine celsius. 413 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: They also locked the factory gate to stop the women's 414 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: auxiliary from delivering food. Workers and their supporters broke the 415 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: gate open, and that escalated into a fight between law 416 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: enforcement and the workers and their supporters. The police used 417 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: tear gas and they fired upon the workers. The workers 418 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: defended themselves with things like fire hoses and thrown door hinges. 419 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: Women who were outside the plan were also part of 420 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: this fighting. They were armed with things like homemade blackjacks 421 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: and bars of soaps stuffed down in the toes of socks. 422 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: At least sixteen workers and eleven police were injured, with 423 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: most of the worker injuries coming from gunshot wounds. In 424 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: a later oral history interview, Genora Johnson Dollinger said of 425 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: this moment, quote, I was frightened, and you first lose 426 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: all your power of thinking for just a matter of moments, 427 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: and then you become terribly, terribly angry that armed policemen 428 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: are shooting into unarmed men. She used the U. A 429 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: W's loudspeaker car to call for women to come to 430 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: the factory and stand with the men, banking on the 431 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: idea that police would be reluctant to shoot at a 432 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: group of unarmed women. The striking workers nicknamed this incident 433 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: the Battle of the Running Bulls or the Battle of 434 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: Bulls run with bulls being a slang term for police 435 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: and some of the more radical women in the Women's Auxiliary, 436 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: including Genera Johnson Dollinger, decided to form a new organization afterward, 437 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: that being the Emergency Brigade. Their job was to handle 438 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: any emergency that arose during the strike. This included using 439 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: their own bodies to shield the striking workers from the police, 440 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: as they had done on January eleventh, but it included 441 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: other things too for the remainder of the strike, including 442 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: at one point helping a striking worker's wife give birth 443 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: to a baby. The Emergency Brigade were red berets and 444 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: arm bands with the letters EB, and some members kept 445 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: working with the Women's Auxiliary while also working with the 446 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Emergency Brigade. After the violence on January eleven, the U 447 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: a W and GM reached a tentative agreement the striking 448 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: workers would leave the plants and GM would start good 449 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: faith negotiations with the union, not restarting production until those 450 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 1: negotiations were complete. Workers who had been striking in other cities, 451 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: including Cleveland and Detroit, left their plans, but in Flint, 452 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: the union heard that GM had also agreed to meet 453 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: with another organization called the Flint Alliance, which the c 454 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: i O and the U a W viewed as a 455 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: company union. So workers in Flint refused to leave the factories, 456 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: and GM asked Governor Frank Murphy to call out the 457 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: National Guard. Yeah, there's also some suggestion that GM. It 458 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: looks like GM wasn't going to abide by the promise 459 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: to not restart production until the negotiations were done, So 460 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: after they contacted the governor, Murphy didn't did not act 461 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: the way that many people would expect the governor to 462 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: act during such an incident. He actually supported the workers 463 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: legal right to unionize them to strike, and he was 464 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: really afraid that using National Guard troops to physically remove 465 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: them would just lead to people getting killed. So while 466 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: Murphy did call out the National Guard, their task was 467 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: to keep a buffer between the workers on one side 468 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: and GM GM security guards and police on the other. 469 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: About twelve undred National guardsmen arrived in Flint on January twelve. 470 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: On February one, U a W striker strategically took control 471 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: of the Chevrolet Engine number four factory. To do this, 472 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: they staged a diversion, telling a company stool pigeon that 473 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: a strike was being planned at another factory, Chevy nine. 474 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: Police and security guards from other plants, including Chevy four, 475 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: converged on Chevy nine after hearing this rumor. Police through 476 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: tear gas grenades into the plant, and women outside broke 477 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: the windows to try to clear the air. Meanwhile, workers 478 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: took over the real target of Chevy Flour, and another 479 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: group from the Emergency Brigade locked arms across the gate 480 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: and stood guard. The governor called in an additional National 481 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: Guard troops, which surrounded Chevy four and nearby Chevy to 482 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: once again establishing a barrier around the striking workers and 483 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: separating them from a force that now included police, private 484 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: security guards, sheriff's deputies, and some billions who had been 485 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: deputized for this purpose. Chevy four built the engines for 486 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: all Chevrolet vehicles, so this effectively stopped Chevrolet production throughout 487 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: the company. At this point, the strike was seriously affecting 488 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: GM's production. In December of nineteen thirty six, the company 489 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: had built about fifty thousand cars. In February of ninety seven, 490 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: that number was only one d twenty five. The strike 491 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: grew to involving about one hundred thirty five thousand workers 492 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: in plants from thirty five cities in fourteen states. President 493 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: Franklin D. Roosevelt urged GM to start seriously negotiating. On 494 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: February two, another judge, Paul Godola, who did not have 495 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of stock in GM, issued another injunction, this 496 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: one to take effect in twenty four hours, again ordering 497 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: the striking workers to leave the factories. He also find 498 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: the union fifteen million dollars. Thousands of supporters started gathering 499 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: outside the occupied factories out of fear that this injunction 500 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: would inspire vigilantes or hired security to try to remove 501 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: the striking workers by force. There's a random side note. 502 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: The governor actually did own stock in GM as all 503 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: this was happening, although that was not known at the time, 504 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: and since he was generally on the strikers side, it 505 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the same connotations as Judge black stock ownership. 506 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Even if it had been known. This new injunction put 507 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: the governor in a pretty precarious position. He was required 508 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: by law to honor it, but he still really feared 509 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: that doing so would lead to a loss of life. 510 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: This was not an unreasonable fear, similarly to how businesses 511 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: had thought the Supreme Court might overturn the National Labor 512 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: Relations Act. He also noted that the Court had not 513 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: weighed in on the legality of sit down strikes, so 514 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: he tried to delay. He made some public statements calling 515 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: the strike an unlawful seizure of property, but he still 516 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: didn't take steps to actually clear the factories. Insteady contacted 517 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: the President, again, encouraging Roosevelt to order GM to the 518 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: bargaining table. Alfred P. Sloan delegated GMS, negotiating to executive 519 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: vice president William Knudsen, along with representatives from the company's 520 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: finance and legal departments. On the workers side was CIO 521 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: President John L. Lewis, previously of United Mine Workers, and 522 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: U a W Vice President Windham Mortimer. The negotiations were 523 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: held in the office and jury room of Judge George Murphy, 524 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: brother of Governor Murphy, and Governor Murphy acted as a mediator. 525 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Murphy kept both President Roosevelt and Secretary of Labor Francis 526 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: Perkins updated on their progress. Although Murphy tried to get 527 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Judge Godola to delay the removal of the workers. On 528 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: February five, the judge issued a writ of attachment which 529 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: ordered the sheriff to arrest all the workers that were 530 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: occupying GM buildings and to bring them in to court 531 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: to face charges of contempt. But like the governor, Sheriff 532 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: Thomas Walcott had some serious reservations about doing this and 533 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: he would only agree to do it if he were 534 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: explicitly ordered to do so by the governor. He asked 535 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: Murphy for National Guard support. Murphy, of course, was not 536 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: going to directly order him to do this. He thought 537 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: it was going to get people killed. So Murphy informed 538 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: the judge that he thought they were really close to 539 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: an agreement. This was on a Friday, and the governor 540 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: tried to get everybody to just hold tight till after 541 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: the weekend, but by Monday, February eight, GM and the 542 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: U a W still had not reached an agreement. Murphy 543 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: kept trying to reassure everyone that one was imminent, and 544 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: he was later quoted as saying, if I sent those 545 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: soldiers right in on the men, there'd be no telling 546 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: how many would be killed. It would be inconsistent with 547 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: everything I have ever stood for in my whole political life. 548 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: An agreement between GM and the U a W finally 549 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: came on February eleventh, nineteen thirty seven, forty four days 550 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: after the start of the strike and after zero people 551 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: getting killed. Under the terms of this deal, the strike 552 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: would end and the striking workers would stop occupying the plants. 553 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: Those plants would resume operation. GM agreed not to discriminate 554 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: or retaliate against the employees for joining a union or 555 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: for having participated in the strike. GM also agreed to 556 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: start collective bargaining on February, and that bargaining was meant 557 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: to address the grievances that the union had presented to 558 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: the company back in January. The union agreed not to 559 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: implement any more strikes or work stoppages while that negotiation 560 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: was taking place, although it was not officially part of 561 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: the agreement. GM also announced a pay increase of five 562 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: cents an hour, and in a separate letter, Nudsen informed 563 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: Murphy that for a period of six months, GM would 564 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: negotiate only with U a W, not with any other 565 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: union strikers, and chev lay Plant number four voted to 566 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: have Roscoe van zandt lead them out of the building. 567 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: Trying to track down whether that five cents an hour 568 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: pay increase affected people who were being paid by the 569 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: piece and I don't know, but there were people that 570 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: were not paid by the piece UH a lot of 571 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: times and not working directly on the assembly line. So 572 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: this first agreement between GM and the u a W 573 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: was not one that addressed all those demands that the 574 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: u a W had submitted back in January. Some of 575 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: those demands later became part of federal law, including the 576 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: Fair Labor Standards Act that was first passed. Others were 577 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: demands that the UAW kept working towards at GM and 578 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: at other auto manufacturers for years. They weren't things that 579 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: were just quickly wrapped up in a round of collective 580 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: bargaining that started on February six after the strike was over. Instead, 581 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: disagreement's major accomplishment was GM's recognition of the union and 582 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: its promise to participate in collective bargaining, and in that 583 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: it was enormously influential. It established the u a W 584 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: as a legitimate union in the auto industry, and its 585 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: membership grew from about ninety eight thousand to nearly four 586 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: hundred thousand in ninety seven alone. U a W started 587 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: bargaining for workers for many other US auto manufacturers, including Studebaker, Hudson, Packard, 588 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: and Chrysler, and four years after the Flint strike at Ford. 589 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: The success in Flint also sparked an enormous increase in 590 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: union membership overall and a wave of sit down strikes 591 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: as people tried to get better pay and working conditions. 592 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: There were a hundred and fifty sit down strikes in 593 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: the United States in nineteen thirty seven alone, about a 594 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: hundred of them in the area around Detroit, Michigan. About 595 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: half a million workers across the country went on strike 596 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: and about two million joined a union between nineteen thirty 597 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: seven and ninety eight. These were not confined to the 598 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: auto industry or two industrial jobs. On February seven, clerks 599 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: at Woolworth stopped working and took over stores for a week, 600 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: winning a twenty pay increase and union involvement in hiring decisions. 601 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: In March, workers at four locations of the H. L. 602 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: Green department store chain in New York City implemented sit 603 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: down strikes. Incarcerated people in Illinois and Pennsylvania went on 604 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,959 Speaker 1: strike as well, although these strikers demands were not met. 605 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: In April of ninety seven, the Supreme Court issued a 606 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: ruling in National Labor Relations Board versus Jones and Lachlan 607 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: Steel Corporation, which upheld the National Labor Relations Act. But 608 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: over the course of the year, public sentiment really turned 609 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: against the proliferation of sit down strikes. I mean, the 610 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: public had not overwhelmingly supported down strikes in the first place, 611 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: but became a lot more critical. And the words of 612 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: the Detroit News quote, sitting down has replaced baseball as 613 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: a national pastime and centered downers clutter the landscape in 614 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: every direction. In late nineteen thirty seven, a Gallop poll 615 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: found that about sevent of Americans disapproved of sit down strikes. 616 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: Then in nineteen thirty nine, the U. S. Supreme Court 617 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: issued a ruling in N L r B. Versus Fan 618 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: Steel Metallurgical Corp. Which found that Fan Steel had violated 619 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: the Wagner Act, but also that the practice of the 620 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: sit down strike was quote a high handed proceeding without 621 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: shadow of a legal right. So labor organizers largely moved 622 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: away from sit down strikes, but they have been cited 623 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: as an inspiration for sit ins during movements for equal rights. Yeah, 624 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: when we did that episode, that sort of rounded up 625 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: like the sipp In movement and the fishing movement and 626 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: all of those things. The first one that we talked 627 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: about was the Alexandria Public Library sit in, which was 628 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: originally called to sit down strike. Also, we are not 629 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: going to try to recap the the next eighty five 630 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: years of labor history. Well, there are lots of story 631 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: eas within it that we can tell it later times. Um, 632 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: and I mean stuff that's been in the headlines within 633 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: the last year about everything from workers rights to organize 634 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: to like a big corruption scandal at the U A 635 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: w all of that is out of the scope of 636 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: this podcast. Do you have a listener mail for us? 637 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: I do I have listener mail friend Tony. Tony says Hi, 638 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: Holly and Tracy, longtime listener, first time writing in. I 639 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: was so excited today during part one of the Tarbell 640 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: versus Rockefeller when you started talking about the discovery of 641 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: oil drilling and Titus Bill that I pause the episode 642 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: to call my mom and tell her about it. My 643 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: entire family is from that area in Oil City, very 644 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: near Titus Bill. My mom took me to Drake's well 645 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: when I was little and pointed out that the picture 646 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: of Drake standing in front of the well in eighteen 647 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: sixty six is also a picture of my ancestor, my 648 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: great great uncle Peter. I've attached to the picture below 649 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: and standing on the right and the top hat is 650 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: Drake and the man on the left next to him 651 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: is Peter Wilson. According to our genealogy findings, Peter Wilson 652 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: owned a successful apothecary in the area and helped bank 653 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: roll Drakes drilling. There's very little mention of Peter Wilson 654 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: outside of the picture at the well, so we don't 655 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: know a lot about his life aside from that, but 656 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm hoping one day I can go dig through city 657 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: records and find more. There are still oil wells all 658 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: over the area, and unfortunately still a lot of issues 659 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: connected to them. Cancer rates in the area are higher 660 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: than in other areas of the state, and several of 661 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: my family members and friends have suffered from issues with 662 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: water quality on their land. It was really cool to 663 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: hear a lot about the history of the area my 664 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: family is from, especially since many of my ancestors, including 665 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: my grandfather, worked for Standard Oil and other oil companies 666 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: in the area. Western Pennsylvania is very beautiful and some 667 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: of the oil money mansions still exist in Oil City, 668 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: and I wish there was a bit more visibility for 669 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: the area in its history. Uh. Tony then apologizes for 670 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: the email running a bit long, but I don't find 671 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: this to be long at all, and Tony says, I'm 672 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: in the process of applying for graduate schools, and I 673 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: have to say a big part of that decision was 674 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: realizing how much I loved history from listening to this podcast. 675 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for all you do. My husband and I 676 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: look forward to new episodes and listen every week. Have 677 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: a great day, Tony. Thank you so much, Tony for 678 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: this email. I had seen that picture of the well 679 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: when I was doing my research, and it's so cool 680 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: for somebody to right in and be like, that's my 681 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: ancestor in that picture. That has become like a historical touchstone. 682 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: I love it. 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