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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, January tenth, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: Season eighteen, episode number one oh four. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We are alive from the
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Speaker 1: got a lot of different topics we're gonna hit and
Speaker 1: as we do on each Tuesday, we got a little
Speaker 1: game from Brian. The Matt Scientists is over there whipping
Speaker 1: up some questions. I'm sure that we'll bother the minds.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, and we do have
Speaker 1: a few other things we want to get to, I
Speaker 1: want to start first with Jerry Jones A Day. He
Speaker 1: was on our sister station one on five out three
Speaker 1: the Fan and I was asked specifically about Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: and the question was if is there anything that can
Speaker 1: happen this weekend or I guess it would be Monday
Speaker 1: versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that would change his job status.
Speaker 1: Jerry very emphatically and literally like without a lot of explanations,
Speaker 1: said flatly no. His expectation is that you know, that
Speaker 1: won't change anything. And for me personally, quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: think it's the right decision. What did you guys think
Speaker 1: hearing that? Well, I mean, I don't know if Jerry
Speaker 1: can change his mind whenever we can, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens and this week, in this weekend. You know,
Speaker 1: he's also has complete confidence in the staff. He said that,
Speaker 1: I have complete confidence. I think he expects to go
Speaker 1: and beat an eight and nine football team. I think
Speaker 1: that's what he expects the Cowboys to do. They're a
Speaker 1: better team than the Bucks. They have been all year
Speaker 1: and they you know, and um, he expects that. So
Speaker 1: when that doesn't happen, if that doesn't happen, sorry if
Speaker 1: or when, but you know, then we'll see if he
Speaker 1: still sings the same you know, same tune, because he
Speaker 1: can change his mind whenever he wants and he's proven
Speaker 1: that he can. He'll do that. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you're right. But you know, so I don't love
Speaker 1: the question because it's just hypothetical and we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens because he's gonna it's all about how he feels
Speaker 1: and how does he know how he feels. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: guys over there debated the Morning show, Sean and him debated,
Speaker 1: I don't even asking the question. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things that in radio, you mean, the
Speaker 1: one thing is where we're looked at in a way
Speaker 1: of like if you don't ask that question, you got it.
Speaker 1: Then then people are like, well, you never ask tough questions,
Speaker 1: You never put you know, I mean you with Cherry,
Speaker 1: I think it's very hard for Jerry to lie. I
Speaker 1: think Jerry's one of those guys that will like to
Speaker 1: you know, like he's standing there after the Tampa game
Speaker 1: and telling you where Dak's thumbs broken, Edward's late to
Speaker 1: the platy. Ed's asking the question, well, let me repeat, yeah,
Speaker 1: he broke the you know, instead of just you know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to like be accessible and he's trying to
Speaker 1: be and I know that Sean and r J and Bobby,
Speaker 1: and you know, they kind of debated on asking the question.
Speaker 1: But if you don't ask the question, then you're looked
Speaker 1: at it like you don't ask the tough questions. So
Speaker 1: I'm with Nick. I don't think he does anything at
Speaker 1: the head coach I do. I do worry a little
Speaker 1: bit though, if you have a little bit of the
Speaker 1: same result that you had from like the Commander's game.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have it where you go out
Speaker 1: and you look that bad, you know, is there now?
Speaker 1: I think he brought Mike McCarthy in here to win
Speaker 1: divisions and win games, which he has the last two years.
Speaker 1: But now it's about January football, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: Mike likes to talk about how the months and stuff
Speaker 1: lead up to January football, and that's important. And I
Speaker 1: agree with Nick as well that Jerry could very well
Speaker 1: change his mind. He could say, listen, this is not
Speaker 1: we talk about January football, and we're failing at January football.
Speaker 1: But I think that I think that he doesn't make
Speaker 1: a head coaching swap, even if the Cowboys lose this game.
Speaker 1: But are there other pieces in play here? How'd you
Speaker 1: look offensively? You know? What do you think about that?
Speaker 1: Even though the statistics tell you have this really great offense.
Speaker 1: Your quarterback does well except he throws interceptions. You know,
Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator is on the short list of teams
Speaker 1: around the league that we're looking for head coaches. So
Speaker 1: this thing by itself could just naturally change. You know,
Speaker 1: if Dan Quinn takes a job, he might take a
Speaker 1: guy with him or two, and now your staff is
Speaker 1: completely different. But to your point, I don't think that
Speaker 1: he'll make a change if they lose this weekend, And
Speaker 1: me personally, I don't. I don't. I understand the frustration
Speaker 1: from fans and all that, because it's just like another
Speaker 1: year and another year and all that. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I think on me personally personally, depending on
Speaker 1: how this game goes, even if they were to lose,
Speaker 1: I think I'm okay with McCarthy getting another just having
Speaker 1: that last year, one more year, because aside from everything,
Speaker 1: and I'm basing this from me just knowing Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: so I don't have like a huge list of head
Speaker 1: coaches that I've been with and been around, But just
Speaker 1: from that, I think McCarthy has done some really really
Speaker 1: good things for this team, and it feels like since
Speaker 1: the moment he got here, the positive things that we
Speaker 1: started seeing, Like every time, even this year, you just
Speaker 1: it always feels like you're only this close, like you
Speaker 1: just need to switch here, do it, you know, fix
Speaker 1: tune this here, and tune that, and then you're just
Speaker 1: that close. And again compared to what I know, the
Speaker 1: only thing I know from Jason Garrett, this is like
Speaker 1: night and day what I've experienced with Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: the type of things that he's done here and how
Speaker 1: he's handled this team. Now, there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: in question, like the time management and some game time
Speaker 1: decisions are huge and important, and that's definitely something that
Speaker 1: needs to be talked about and criticized. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I don't know how long is the how
Speaker 1: long you guys would say, is the time spam that
Speaker 1: you would give a head coach to see how far
Speaker 1: longer than what they do in Houston? Right, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: by the way, Houston not doing uh black coaches any favor.
Speaker 1: By the way, the hiring practices of black coaches in
Speaker 1: the league, in my opinion, you know, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the problem is you don't get the opportunity and you
Speaker 1: hire black coaches, and you hire them and you fire
Speaker 1: them a year later, what progress is being made there?
Speaker 1: You know, too much in a year? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: quite get. I mean that that there's a problem about
Speaker 1: black coaches being hired. There's now a bad problem about
Speaker 1: black coaches not getting enough time, right, That is a
Speaker 1: that is an issue in this league, you know, And
Speaker 1: so I just I'm sorry I said that. I'm not
Speaker 1: sorry I said that. I just you know, I know
Speaker 1: it's probably not the right setting here, but just what
Speaker 1: you talk about, how much time do you give a
Speaker 1: coach Houston is a terrible example of what you should
Speaker 1: do in the National Football League. You know, you fire,
Speaker 1: if you fire a coach, everybody they've had four coaches
Speaker 1: what in the last three years. You know, you think
Speaker 1: about interim coaches and stuff like that that they've had
Speaker 1: dealing down there. So yeah, do you give You've got
Speaker 1: to give a coach an adequate enough time to me,
Speaker 1: I tell you what, Well, Okay, if you get in
Speaker 1: this game this week and Mike McCarthy finds a way
Speaker 1: in the clock management stuff like you talk about becomes
Speaker 1: a problem and you lose a game because of him
Speaker 1: or because of the black of the clock. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of coaches around the league that blow time management problems.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there's a lot. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't like it because I feel like there's a way
Speaker 1: to get around this and do a better job with it.
Speaker 1: But my friend Andy Reid Aaron Kansas City is one
Speaker 1: of the worst when it comes to clock management and
Speaker 1: using timeouts and all that stuff like that. So to me,
Speaker 1: you know, is it something you worry about. Absolutely, if
Speaker 1: you lose a game because of it, it should be
Speaker 1: a huge concern of yours, you know. And maybe that's
Speaker 1: the thing that he'll say. He's like, listen, he gets
Speaker 1: the team ready to play, he keeps the team healthy.
Speaker 1: But the problem is, though he can't finish these games,
Speaker 1: then that becomes maybe a reason why that he in time.
Speaker 1: Maybe four years is what he's done. Jerry's been very,
Speaker 1: very patient. I think he went about two to three
Speaker 1: years too long. With Jason Garrett myself, yeah, I would
Speaker 1: look at it like this. You look around the NFL
Speaker 1: and you try to figure out who are the best
Speaker 1: coaches around the NFL. They, to me are except for
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, who was an anomaly. Most of the other ones.
Speaker 1: They are every year they have their team in the hunt.
Speaker 1: Every year, their teams typically in the playoffs. They're fighting
Speaker 1: for something at the end of the season and into
Speaker 1: the playoffs in January football. They don't win it every year.
Speaker 1: Most of them have probably won it one time, right,
Speaker 1: But the point is they're always there, and then other
Speaker 1: things factor in. You get into a one and done
Speaker 1: type scenario in the playoffs, and it's one of those
Speaker 1: situations where are you really going to fire a coach
Speaker 1: who has your team in the playoffs, who's been twelve
Speaker 1: and five the last two years. I just think when
Speaker 1: you look at that, and Nick and I were having
Speaker 1: this conversation even further yesterday, when you start thinking about,
Speaker 1: you know, right now, Mike McCarthy and three seasons has
Speaker 1: thirty wins right out of the fifty games that he's played.
Speaker 1: How many of those games did he played without his
Speaker 1: starting quarterback yet a full season? It was sixteen, I
Speaker 1: think is what we counted up Nick. So a full
Speaker 1: season he's played without his starting quarterback and he still
Speaker 1: managed to get thirty wins in fifty tries. That to
Speaker 1: me says he's doing something right, and it certainly says
Speaker 1: to me, you would be to me, it would be
Speaker 1: a poor decision right now to say, after two seasons,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens this weekend, we're going to give
Speaker 1: up on this experiment. And I think in situations particularly
Speaker 1: you talked about Houston, but I think it's in around
Speaker 1: the league. When teams get rid of a coach after
Speaker 1: a year two years, that to me, says the GM
Speaker 1: or the person that made the decision, they should also
Speaker 1: be held accountable. You made a bad decision because if
Speaker 1: only if he only if you knew it after a
Speaker 1: year or two years and he wasn't the right guy,
Speaker 1: then you didn't do enough due diligence on the front
Speaker 1: end to know whether he should be the guy that
Speaker 1: got the job in the first place. The guy in
Speaker 1: Denver's living that right now, and the guy and then
Speaker 1: the guy and once they made the decision in Arizona,
Speaker 1: and Steve Kim knows that he made a bad decision there.
Speaker 1: They've gone through some coaches, so it's time to move
Speaker 1: on from him. And just if you want my opinion,
Speaker 1: the best coach in the National Football League is Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin at Pittsburgh. Don't there's not a better coach than
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin in this league. I think there's I think
Speaker 1: there's a very talented guys, but you look at consistency
Speaker 1: throughout his team at one time they were looking. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's had fight every year he's been a coach fifteen
Speaker 1: sixteen years now, winning record, playoffs, super Bowl, things like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what you strive for when you
Speaker 1: hire hire a coach. And you look at Pittsburgh, three
Speaker 1: coaches in the history of they're franchises, three coaches. I
Speaker 1: think there's there is something to be said for keeping
Speaker 1: consistency at the head coach position, because you know, every
Speaker 1: year there's a system that you have, there's a way
Speaker 1: of doing things that you just have in place. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you stick with a guy for fifteen twenty
Speaker 1: years if he's losing all the time. But they this guy,
Speaker 1: they obviously shown they know how to set up the
Speaker 1: right scenario. They find the right guy, they hire the
Speaker 1: right guy, and then they let him go and they
Speaker 1: just trust him to keep doing the right things. Are
Speaker 1: We're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: We'ked up to the game. Brian's got a game for
Speaker 1: us we'll hit some of those questions and and then
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to second segment of The Break Life and
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Speaker 1: Cowboy's lack of running success these last four weeks on
Speaker 1: opponents or the offensive line injuries. M I think it
Speaker 1: is on the offensive line. I think the movement on
Speaker 1: the offensive line, the loss of Tyler Biottish and how
Speaker 1: they handled that. And I mentioned this to someone yesterday.
Speaker 1: If Tyler Biottish were not to come back this week,
Speaker 1: I would actually really consider moving Tyron Smith to left
Speaker 1: tackle and putting Jason Peters on the right side. Right now,
Speaker 1: Jason Peters isn't playing that great. I don't think Tyron
Speaker 1: is playing up to his standard'st tough and so and so.
Speaker 1: To me, I like, okay, if I can show up
Speaker 1: the left side at least where I have Tyron where
Speaker 1: he's comfortable, and I know Jason's the problem and I
Speaker 1: got to give him some help, then I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: Right now. I can't have both my tackles being a problem.
Speaker 1: So for me, I think it's the offensive line. I
Speaker 1: think that's been the biggest problem, and I think they
Speaker 1: got to fix that, probably number one problem they gotta
Speaker 1: fix going into the playoffs in my opinion. Nicky, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say probably the offensive line. But I mean
Speaker 1: those are three really good teams, three really good run defenses.
Speaker 1: But you know, I wonder if Tyrn Smith, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think maybe he went to the coaches to
Speaker 1: play a right tackle for him or for the team.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he did that because he was like,
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be easier for me to be depending on
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you get tight end help or sometimes
Speaker 1: you're not facing the best rusher. Is it is it
Speaker 1: best day? And maybe he didn't think he was ready
Speaker 1: to be at left I don't know, I mean, he's not.
Speaker 1: I'll wait for his press conference for him to talk
Speaker 1: about that. So I don't know, but I do think
Speaker 1: it's the the old line. It just caught up to him.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't just keep shuffling day in yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: every week and expected to not have any issues. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Most teams are right handed when they play offense, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of your right tackle. I always talk about
Speaker 1: the left tackle blindside guy, but if you look at
Speaker 1: the point of attack, that's your right tackle and your
Speaker 1: right guard, and they have it, they haven't played as well.
Speaker 1: It's so strange. I mean, and I the more I
Speaker 1: evaluated or try to evaluate it, I think, get that
Speaker 1: right tackle spot right. Yet, you know, when you start
Speaker 1: to talk about with Steele and then what I thought
Speaker 1: was going to happen with Tyron Smith plugging in there,
Speaker 1: it just hasn't been as smooth of a transition that
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be. You know, man,
Speaker 1: you're putting a Hall of Fame player over there. You know,
Speaker 1: we might be seeing the end of Tyron Smith. I
Speaker 1: mean we might, you know, father time and injuries and
Speaker 1: all that might have just caught up, you know with
Speaker 1: this guy who is a Hall of Fame player. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. And Ber, what do you got run
Speaker 1: as the lack of running success these last several weeks
Speaker 1: and an opponent thing or the offensive line injuries something
Speaker 1: just the injuries. I just looking at all the teams
Speaker 1: they faced since the injury, I don't think every team,
Speaker 1: every appointent has put all the resources in trying to
Speaker 1: stop the run. So it can be that. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you face some good teams with like run defense, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that's the issue here. It's more
Speaker 1: just having that balance and Tyren Steele, like you, we
Speaker 1: miss him, They miss him, Colboys miss him for sure.
Speaker 1: And again, well Tony Potter was out one game, right, right,
Speaker 1: it was just one. But even with my leak Davis
Speaker 1: in there and Zeke, it's not like their game is changing,
Speaker 1: you know. It's not like they're just under perfore I mean,
Speaker 1: or like getting worse or anything. So it has to
Speaker 1: attribute to what the old line hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: do currently. Nick, Yes, sir. Who do you think wins
Speaker 1: a close game, Dallas or Tampa Tampa? I think Tampa
Speaker 1: wins a close game, and it's close. I think Tom
Speaker 1: Brady will win it at the end. He's done it.
Speaker 1: He did it in twenty and eleven when he threw it,
Speaker 1: you know, when he drove down. He had played terrible
Speaker 1: all year, I mean all game and then came back
Speaker 1: and won with West welk or just oh touchdown, and
Speaker 1: so he's he's done that this year too. I mean
Speaker 1: they're eight nine and I think that they probably won
Speaker 1: three games that I can remember that he just kind
Speaker 1: of saved them at the end. So I think I
Speaker 1: think he he will win. He would win a close
Speaker 1: game there. I mean, Cowboys have lost two overtime games,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and both times they've made mistakes. I think
Speaker 1: that's definitely Derek. I agree wholeheartedly. I just I don't
Speaker 1: see a scenario where and by the way, it's not
Speaker 1: just the Cowboys, any team that's fading facing Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and he has the ball in the final moments of
Speaker 1: the game with an opportunity to win. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: my money on the fact he's gonna win, because, by
Speaker 1: the way, I can't remember so many times when he
Speaker 1: has I can't really think of many times when he
Speaker 1: hasn't drove his team down to win the game. So
Speaker 1: close games, by default, I think go to Tom Brady Anbar.
Speaker 1: I think it because the Cowboys have not shown me
Speaker 1: that they're capable of doing something like that. And I'm
Speaker 1: specifically talking about how they managed the clock, the decisions
Speaker 1: that McCarthy and Kellen Moore make. I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem this weekend. It's just stuff. I'm really
Speaker 1: really concerned about the lack of, like the defensive line
Speaker 1: being able to pressure enough, because again, the defensive line
Speaker 1: looked totally or was performing completely different from that first
Speaker 1: game that they played against Tampa versus what it is now.
Speaker 1: So you got a defense that has dropped down versus
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's picking his game back up. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be a really favorable matchup for
Speaker 1: the couch so the Philadelphia because it's Gardner Minshew gave you,
Speaker 1: guys no hope that you can get a stop on
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: about like I said before, it's not about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's not about whoever, it's not about all the other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. It's about that quarterback. He just
Speaker 1: like tell like, I can't remember a time I've watched
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in a scenario where he's got the ball
Speaker 1: to win the game and he doesn't ultimately win the game.
Speaker 1: I just don't recall seeing that very much. I just
Speaker 1: don't trust anybody, anybody in the league to stop Tom
Speaker 1: Brady in that scenario. And it's also you know, fifty
Speaker 1: seven fifty eight minutes through where it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I can I've I've seen what you're doing all game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know what you're doing now, and I
Speaker 1: know who can cover and who can't. And and I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of what happens. Let's go down two
Speaker 1: minute offense is you know, typically him calling the plays
Speaker 1: probably better than the coordinator that they have, and you know,
Speaker 1: he just goes down there and and and makes the play.
Speaker 1: And they've got a good kicker. Uh that that makes
Speaker 1: you know, the clutch kicks. And so you know we
Speaker 1: saw it in Week one last year or yeah, last
Speaker 1: seasons when when the Cowboys took the lead, you just
Speaker 1: never really thought they were going to stop him. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know that's why they get they That's why I
Speaker 1: wonder a first quarter, second quarter, you know, and you're
Speaker 1: down there and it's third and goal or fourth and
Speaker 1: got to play the game. You got to put it
Speaker 1: on him a little bit more, you know. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta be aggressive with if the kind of what they've
Speaker 1: done all yeah. I mean with an exception of some
Speaker 1: games the Cowboys, he takes them like two quarters to
Speaker 1: start playing. Well, So is this a game where you
Speaker 1: could kind of stay close and in the limbo with
Speaker 1: like whole Tom Brady for two quarters and then kind
Speaker 1: of come back in the second half and turn it on. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think this is gonna be
Speaker 1: one of those games where you are that's not gonna
Speaker 1: cut it. You need to go out there and get
Speaker 1: on the field and start playing football. The injuries could
Speaker 1: be a problem for the Buccaneers on defense. That's something
Speaker 1: we need to keep an eye on this week. Okay, Ambar.
Speaker 1: Other than score more points, this absolutely has to happen
Speaker 1: for Dallas to win this game. Um, well, no issues
Speaker 1: on special teams this weekend. Um, I would say, there
Speaker 1: you go, mom, right, i'bout to say out. Yeah. My
Speaker 1: mom actually called me and she said I was I
Speaker 1: was listening to the game to the show yesterday. You
Speaker 1: didn't mentioned in special teams once. It's like changed the
Speaker 1: whole game, Yeah, And I was like, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: not wrong. It did not get to it. It problems
Speaker 1: on my list. If we did not get to it,
Speaker 1: at least your mom didn't drop an f bomb after
Speaker 1: talking about it at home with me. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: mother mentioned it yesterday. Because I don't think it's a trend.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be something that's gonna be reoccurring.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that they just had
Speaker 1: a bad game and it's just not usual. It's something
Speaker 1: that was a little more unusual than we if we've
Speaker 1: seen it's the second put that guy's drop and that's
Speaker 1: I asked this to Nick during the game. I asked
Speaker 1: Nick during the game, I said, is it worth it?
Speaker 1: Why when I happened to him on or now that
Speaker 1: it's the second time, do you have to start thinking like,
Speaker 1: if in a situation we were knowing we're not going
Speaker 1: to get a great return, is there a more sure
Speaker 1: handed guy you could put it back there to catch
Speaker 1: it because he may be thinking I'm trying to go
Speaker 1: for the big play here, which, by the way, I
Speaker 1: loved that about him, But it also could mean that
Speaker 1: maybe he loses his focus sometimes and that ends up
Speaker 1: in a muff, you know, muff kick. So that's where
Speaker 1: it's It's a little tough because a pro Bowl player,
Speaker 1: we're just talking about, like having a specialist back the
Speaker 1: catch the ball for him. I think he's a weapon.
Speaker 1: But it's got to be for the Cowboys. It can't
Speaker 1: be for the other teams here, so they have to
Speaker 1: do anyways. I just think whoever is on the other side,
Speaker 1: just cornerbacks other than Trevon Diggs, the corners to be
Speaker 1: able to have a good game. Okay, Derek, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that the big plays, but but I'll
Speaker 1: change it to also, I think it has to be
Speaker 1: a game where Dak plays clean. What I mean by
Speaker 1: that is he can't laugh. He can't have the dumb interceptions.
Speaker 1: They can't play volleyball out there. They can't do the
Speaker 1: unforced error type stuff like. It has to be if
Speaker 1: there's something how if a defender makes a great play
Speaker 1: on the ball and gets interception, that is what it is.
Speaker 1: But it can't be like, you know, you just throw
Speaker 1: into triple coverage and end up with an intercepted. It
Speaker 1: can't be ball hits guy in the chest, bounces up
Speaker 1: and then get an interception, catch the ball. You have
Speaker 1: to be focused this game. You can't have the unforced
Speaker 1: ere this this team. If you if you have a
Speaker 1: close game with him, as we just talked about, likelids
Speaker 1: of winning are probably pretty small, so you can't have
Speaker 1: those kinds of coming away with a lot of interceptions.
Speaker 1: Just winning games regardless of the interceptions in this instance,
Speaker 1: could you give people you're not not one. I'm saying
Speaker 1: just if, And like I said before, it's not just
Speaker 1: it's not just an interception, it's how you throw the interception.
Speaker 1: He's got to be way more focused and way more
Speaker 1: aware of protecting the ball than making the silly mistake. Right,
Speaker 1: So if something happens with other team makes a great play,
Speaker 1: that happens, that's an NFL football. You can't make the
Speaker 1: silly mistake because then it just I think those kind
Speaker 1: of things that you're going to combine that with the
Speaker 1: ones that aren't just making great plays, and now you're
Speaker 1: up to two or three turnovers. So I think you
Speaker 1: gotta be smarter with the ball. Yeah, I mean, every
Speaker 1: every touchdown pass that throws a maha has got to
Speaker 1: be the one kick in the extra points that's got
Speaker 1: to be the one. It can't be the other way
Speaker 1: where it's a return for a touchdown. Suchdowns have got
Speaker 1: to go off north and you know, he just can't
Speaker 1: have a pick six. I mean, like you said, you
Speaker 1: gotta be clean. He can maybe maybe they'll throw one
Speaker 1: pick and you can recover from that. But but I
Speaker 1: think I think the Buccaneers are challenged. I mean offensively,
Speaker 1: even though they've got Tom, they don't score a lot
Speaker 1: of points. So you know, you'll go back to that
Speaker 1: game with twenty nineteen. I believe they played New England
Speaker 1: and it was just a rain fast and it was
Speaker 1: terrible and you know, a blocked punt. It was the
Speaker 1: only touchdown that they got. I think they won thirteen
Speaker 1: to nine, and it was because of that blocked punt.
Speaker 1: And it was another game where you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I think Garrett was out coached by the elements of
Speaker 1: that game. Belichick, you know, knew what was happening with
Speaker 1: wind and kickoffs and stuff like that. But you know, Brady,
Speaker 1: but you give him, you give him a little bit,
Speaker 1: he's gonna take advantage of it. So I think you
Speaker 1: just cannot have interceptions in short fields. And if that
Speaker 1: means Dak has to be a little bit less aggressive
Speaker 1: that I'm okay for play a Cooper rush take because
Speaker 1: he keeps saying, I'm not worried about it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm, you know, mentally tough and mentally focused,
Speaker 1: which is which is fine with me. That's great, That's
Speaker 1: what got him here. But maybe he should, you know,
Speaker 1: take it back a little bit. Maybe you can't make
Speaker 1: every one of those throws you think you can make.
Speaker 1: That does maybe No, Brown's not gonna catch every every
Speaker 1: pass over the middle that you thought. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you he's not gonna catch every pass you throw
Speaker 1: to him over the middle like that. He's not. It's
Speaker 1: not I don't know why he thinks that's Larry Fitzterill,
Speaker 1: but it isn't. Does that Does that style of football
Speaker 1: still work as successful for this team? Because early in
Speaker 1: the season when they were doing that, when Cooper Rusher
Speaker 1: was playing quarterback, the defense is playing out of its mind.
Speaker 1: We have not seen that defense in several weeks. Do
Speaker 1: you think they could still afford to play that style
Speaker 1: of football that's a lot more conservative and expect their
Speaker 1: defense to really be able to hold the other team disagree.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you could play
Speaker 1: conservative against his quarterback. Yeah, that's what that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I'm gonna take my chances, and
Speaker 1: I know they don't score points, but your defense, like
Speaker 1: I said, you, you got to try and build a lead,
Speaker 1: I mean a big lead on this guy. And even
Speaker 1: then he's probably gonna come back, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen him do it before. It was many moons ago.
Speaker 1: But you just no lead safe with this guy. It
Speaker 1: really really isn't you know the only thing that will
Speaker 1: do my heart good is if you see the back
Speaker 1: of his jersey with grass stains on it, if you
Speaker 1: see Brady with green across the back and the two
Speaker 1: with some grass across the bay. That's that's how you
Speaker 1: win football games playing this guy who's getting kicked out,
Speaker 1: Because that's no but but that's what you're I mean,
Speaker 1: every time you watch, every time you watch him play,
Speaker 1: if he's got grass stains on his back, you're doing
Speaker 1: your job. That that that affects how he plays. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at with that one. All right, Nick,
Speaker 1: here we go. Are you to the point of saying,
Speaker 1: what the heck play Xavier Roads and take your chances. Ah.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Xavier Rhodes is the new corner
Speaker 1: that they Yeah, it's not so new. Uh, it's a
Speaker 1: football in the NFL. Yeah, you know, they don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of options obviously. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think I think so. I mean, I like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully Bland will be ready to go um
Speaker 1: Nashan Right. I don't know. I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they're all going to be about the same. But
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes, it's one of those things like if you
Speaker 1: if you've got one in you, yeah, let's hope it's
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, you know, yeah kind of that's what Derek. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's right now. I would if I were
Speaker 1: putting my list together, he would be my fourth cornerback,
Speaker 1: I think, right, Bland and Digs are the three that
Speaker 1: I kind of roll with if they're all if if healthy,
Speaker 1: assuming Bland's healthy, I roll with those three. But I
Speaker 1: have him right there ready to jump in and quite frankly,
Speaker 1: cat one ready to take off the right and I
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this yesterday and I'll go back to it.
Speaker 1: I do think because of his size his length on
Speaker 1: a guy like a Julio Jones, I would like to
Speaker 1: see if there's some opportunities I have to kind of
Speaker 1: match him up a little bit there and see if
Speaker 1: I can kind of neutralize that a little bit. But
Speaker 1: but ultimately, yeah, that's that's it. They are going to
Speaker 1: be there, gonna have to really worry about what's happening
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position because of the receivers they're playing
Speaker 1: this week and the quarterback that they're playing, and I
Speaker 1: just don't know if they can match up completely. I
Speaker 1: just think they got to kind of mix and match
Speaker 1: things here and there, show them different kinds of looks
Speaker 1: cornerback to to defensive back, I mean, a defense back
Speaker 1: to wide receiver to see if they can, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of do whatever they can with him. And well,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer for you.
Speaker 1: I would have to try to secretly sneak into practice
Speaker 1: and watch to see how he looks. I have no
Speaker 1: idea how he currently looks out there. So but I'm
Speaker 1: with Derek, I mean, and I guess he'll be active, right,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. It's not a hard position to kind
Speaker 1: of rotate or anything like that. So I would assume
Speaker 1: all of them play this game. I'm guessing he's not
Speaker 1: a special teams guy because of his age, right, He's
Speaker 1: gonna probably have to play a little bit. Then it
Speaker 1: depends on what the role is. Yeah, I mean for sure,
Speaker 1: And I mean first round pick comes into the league
Speaker 1: um and plays and starts, and he was, you know,
Speaker 1: good player and all that stuff. So I doad he
Speaker 1: played a lot of it. But you know, you want
Speaker 1: to get here. To get here, you might have to
Speaker 1: do what you have to do. Kellie James Washington had
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of you know, he was
Speaker 1: on the practice squads too, you know, like he was
Speaker 1: on practice squad, bills practice squad. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: on practice squads. So you're you're you're doing the thing
Speaker 1: you have to be doing a little some scout team,
Speaker 1: you know stuff like that. Yeah, final question for you guys,
Speaker 1: real quick. Uh uh hang on here in a second.
Speaker 1: Who scares you more? Tampa's defensive line or their wide receivers.
Speaker 1: It's a good one. Um, I think I think the
Speaker 1: wide receivers because of what we just talked about with
Speaker 1: the corners, you know, they Evans and finally figured it out.
Speaker 1: Evans and Godwin, they are playmakers. I think they're both
Speaker 1: Pro Pro bowlers at some point, and I think that
Speaker 1: they are still better than what you've got at cornerback.
Speaker 1: So just based off of what the Cowboys will be
Speaker 1: facing with those guys, then I would say the receivers.
Speaker 1: That's a hard one. Man. I would probably opt for
Speaker 1: the receivers just because that's the quickest way to lose.
Speaker 1: You give up a few big plays and bam, you're
Speaker 1: already down fourteen points where you have a Washington game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the defensive line, true, but but no, I just I
Speaker 1: just think you can probably like if you can't run
Speaker 1: the ball. I've seen the Cowboys be successful when they
Speaker 1: can't run the ball. Yes, I've not necessarily see them
Speaker 1: be successful when they're giving up forty fifty yard plays
Speaker 1: every you know, every few minutes. Yeah, that's where I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit more because so I think both of
Speaker 1: them are huge concerns. I just think the wide receivers
Speaker 1: have a the Tampa wide receivers, if they have a
Speaker 1: good day, that is the quickest way for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to get and bar Yeah, I mean it's hard to
Speaker 1: get past, what happened this weekend in Washington and how
Speaker 1: they were getting to dak so. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I mean, receivers are connected to Tom Brady. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: for him to have a good game, you gotta work
Speaker 1: with the receivers. So I would say, just like you guys, receivers,
Speaker 1: just the matchups there at cornerbacks versus receivers. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys very much. All Right, we're gonna take our final break.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. I got a question for you guys.
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about some of
Speaker 1: the injured guys and what the prospects are of them
Speaker 1: playing this weekend. We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: about some of the injured guys. There are three guys
Speaker 1: in particular that haven't been playing that we hopefully expect
Speaker 1: to hear some good news heading into the weekend. Tyler Beardist,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins, Layton Vanderesh. If I ask you to put
Speaker 1: those in order of most important to the Cowboys success,
Speaker 1: specifically versus Tampa Bay, how would you place them? Man,
Speaker 1: what a good question. I'm gonna steal that one for
Speaker 1: me today. Uh, give me Vanderesh, give me Beodish, give
Speaker 1: me Hankins, Give me Hankins first. I go Hankins first,
Speaker 1: and then and then Beardish and then vanderch exactly backwards. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say, Hankins. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: because of Okay, that's a really good We would have
Speaker 1: to know to Hankins come back and play exactly how
Speaker 1: he was playing hopefully so um, but he was huge
Speaker 1: in helping the Cowboys stop the run, the running the run,
Speaker 1: defense improved the whole lot. And then you look at
Speaker 1: what's happening with the offensive line and not having Tyler
Speaker 1: Beatish in there. It seems like all those juggling around
Speaker 1: is not working as well as we thought it might.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then vanders he is missed and you
Speaker 1: definitely need him, need him. But to me right now,
Speaker 1: he does fall currently at the bottom of those three. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And another thing about Beotist, dude, I know I've been
Speaker 1: you know, critical of him, but but anytime you lose
Speaker 1: your center, it's not it's you're talking about the guy
Speaker 1: that makes the line calls, you know, and that that
Speaker 1: kind of changes a little bit of everything. And just
Speaker 1: how when the call is made right before the snap,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Just recognition. You want the
Speaker 1: guy that's been there. You know, Tampa Bay hasn't faced
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like normal offensive line like ever, you know,
Speaker 1: like in the last I mean, like think about two
Speaker 1: years ago, Zach Martin didn't play because of COVID. This year,
Speaker 1: just you know, they get Tyler Smith in his first game,
Speaker 1: and then mcgoverny gets hurt and farniatt comes and I
Speaker 1: mean so you know, even this game is going to
Speaker 1: be kind of shuffled around a little bit. But but
Speaker 1: I just think Hankins in the middle, that's another element
Speaker 1: that the Buccaneers haven't seen when they face the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's just a really beefy guy, especially when they're dealing
Speaker 1: with problems at center. Yeah, they haven't been exactly healthy
Speaker 1: at center. They won't be healthy at center going into
Speaker 1: this game. Start center. He said, yeah, they they they're down.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll keep an eye on what the practice
Speaker 1: report looks like for them at center because that might
Speaker 1: be something that you know. The thing with the thing
Speaker 1: with Layton Vanderesh, he's gotten to the point now where
Speaker 1: he's making Hankins makes Vanderesh better because Vanderesh can run
Speaker 1: behind somebody that's taken up at all these blocks. So
Speaker 1: if the ball bounces outside with Fournette, or the ball
Speaker 1: goes to the edge or the perimeter, now you got
Speaker 1: Vanderesh playing downhill, which helps. That's great for having Hankins.
Speaker 1: Mandman Clark is having to play so much that Vanderesh
Speaker 1: helps DMan Clark. I was talking to somebody the organization
Speaker 1: this morning about that, said, listen, if anything, having Vanderesh back,
Speaker 1: it helps you with Clark. Clark is Clark is not
Speaker 1: playing well because he's playing next to Barr, who hasn't
Speaker 1: really played well either. So now you've got two guys
Speaker 1: that aren't playing great. But vander Esh helps Clark be
Speaker 1: better than what we've seen the last few weeks since
Speaker 1: Vanderesh has been out. And that's primarily why my order
Speaker 1: was very different than all of yours. I said, be
Speaker 1: honest first, because in my opinion, they are going to win,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be the offensive line can move
Speaker 1: the ball, and they went They move the ball best
Speaker 1: when their offensive line is as good as it can be.
Speaker 1: So be honest is first for me. Second is late Vanderesh,
Speaker 1: mainly because of what you talked about. I think Clark
Speaker 1: and Barr have been a big part of the reason
Speaker 1: why the defense, particularly the run defense, has been suspect lately. Okay,
Speaker 1: if there are a number of times when you see
Speaker 1: them just not filling gaps, like they either they don't
Speaker 1: recognize it or they just don't get there. That doesn't
Speaker 1: see it. Forty two sees it, he just can't. Can't
Speaker 1: that right. Thirty three sees it not clean all the time.
Speaker 1: You see the play where Damon Clark literally took off
Speaker 1: sprinting backwards like he was in deep cover two type
Speaker 1: and it was a runver like right in a gap
Speaker 1: that he should have been feeling, And I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is he doing? Like, I don't know if there was
Speaker 1: a bad call, the miscommunication. Maybe he was right and
Speaker 1: everybody else was wrong. It looked like everybody else was
Speaker 1: playing a different defense than he was. But it's those
Speaker 1: kind of moments where I'm just like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if Clark is I don't know if it's coming. It
Speaker 1: might be coming a little too fast to him right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what they have on the field. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: talking to this guy this morning about it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I said, listen to comparing to me, It's like when
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson was playing with Roy Williams and he would
Speaker 1: line Roy Williams up and say that's who your that's
Speaker 1: your guy, Go get him, or hey, you gotta blitz
Speaker 1: or you gotta you know, there's just you know, even
Speaker 1: on the touchdown that they had the other day, when
Speaker 1: when you know, when you know the receiver's coming across
Speaker 1: and Williams, he didn't mean he's got to get a
Speaker 1: collision there, and he doesn't. And now that you know,
Speaker 1: now it it's you know up and you know it's
Speaker 1: a touchdown and you know, and that's that's just stuff.
Speaker 1: Vander esh is not gonna miss that collision on a crosser.
Speaker 1: That's just not gonna have. I will say this though
Speaker 1: about Hankins, though, you know, if the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: beat Tampa. They gonna have to. They cannot let Fournette
Speaker 1: just go off on it. And and I think it
Speaker 1: did and and I think with him, I think you know,
Speaker 1: if you look at when he was really playing, well,
Speaker 1: it was that stretch going up against Minnesota, Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: and Barkley on Thanksgiving and for the Giants and then
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, you know, which he didn't plays. He missed
Speaker 1: the game, that's right. He was hurt against the Giants
Speaker 1: on the fourth down play when he reached back right right, yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, but they didn't run the ball at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, whoever they put in there, Josephdai, I don't
Speaker 1: know who they put in there, but they shut him down.
Speaker 1: And I think Hankins in that middle has really solidified things,
Speaker 1: coupled with with Um with Layton. The best part about
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Speaker 1: I'm hungry playoffs. All right, we appreciate you guys, Jonas,
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. Tomorrow, we're gonna jump in to
Speaker 1: some detail. We're gonna talk about that Tampa offense versus
Speaker 1: the Dallas Evens, talk about maybe some things that are
Speaker 1: different now than they were in Week one when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys faced the Buccaneers. Until tomorrow from Nick Even, Brian
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