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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, January tenth, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Season eighteen, episode number one oh four. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We are alive from the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Morgan Studios at the Star presenter. I'm Little Light,

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Speaker 1: the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys A Day. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot of different topics we're gonna hit and

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Speaker 1: as we do on each Tuesday, we got a little

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Speaker 1: game from Brian. The Matt Scientists is over there whipping

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Speaker 1: up some questions. I'm sure that we'll bother the minds.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, and we do have

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Speaker 1: a few other things we want to get to, I

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Speaker 1: want to start first with Jerry Jones A Day. He

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Speaker 1: was on our sister station one on five out three

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Speaker 1: the Fan and I was asked specifically about Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and the question was if is there anything that can

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Speaker 1: versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that would change his job status.

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Speaker 1: Jerry very emphatically and literally like without a lot of explanations,

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Speaker 1: said flatly no. His expectation is that you know, that

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Speaker 1: won't change anything. And for me personally, quite frankly, I

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Speaker 1: think it's the right decision. What did you guys think

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Speaker 1: hearing that? Well, I mean, I don't know if Jerry

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Speaker 1: what happens and this week, in this weekend. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's also has complete confidence in the staff. He said that,

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Speaker 1: that's what he expects the Cowboys to do. They're a

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Speaker 1: when that doesn't happen, if that doesn't happen, sorry if

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Speaker 1: and how does he know how he feels. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: of like if you don't ask that question, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Then then people are like, well, you never ask tough questions,

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Speaker 1: You never put you know, I mean you with Cherry,

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Speaker 1: I think it's very hard for Jerry to lie. I

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Speaker 1: I'm with Nick. I don't think he does anything at

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Speaker 1: But now it's about January football, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we need to keep an eye on this week. Okay, Ambar.

429
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Speaker 1: Other than score more points, this absolutely has to happen

430
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Speaker 1: for Dallas to win this game. Um, well, no issues

431
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: on special teams this weekend. Um, I would say, there

432
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Speaker 1: you go, mom, right, i'bout to say out. Yeah. My

433
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: mom actually called me and she said I was I

434
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: was listening to the game to the show yesterday. You

435
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: didn't mentioned in special teams once. It's like changed the

436
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: whole game, Yeah, And I was like, yeah, it was

437
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: not wrong. It did not get to it. It problems

438
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: on my list. If we did not get to it,

439
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: at least your mom didn't drop an f bomb after

440
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: talking about it at home with me. Yeah, you know,

441
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: mother mentioned it yesterday. Because I don't think it's a trend.

442
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be something that's gonna be reoccurring.

443
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that they just had

444
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: a bad game and it's just not usual. It's something

445
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: that was a little more unusual than we if we've

446
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: seen it's the second put that guy's drop and that's

447
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: I asked this to Nick during the game. I asked

448
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: Nick during the game, I said, is it worth it?

449
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: Why when I happened to him on or now that

450
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: it's the second time, do you have to start thinking like,

451
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: if in a situation we were knowing we're not going

452
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: to get a great return, is there a more sure

453
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: handed guy you could put it back there to catch

454
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: it because he may be thinking I'm trying to go

455
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: for the big play here, which, by the way, I

456
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: loved that about him, But it also could mean that

457
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe he loses his focus sometimes and that ends up

458
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: in a muff, you know, muff kick. So that's where

459
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: it's It's a little tough because a pro Bowl player,

460
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: we're just talking about, like having a specialist back the

461
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: catch the ball for him. I think he's a weapon.

462
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: But it's got to be for the Cowboys. It can't

463
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: be for the other teams here, so they have to

464
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: do anyways. I just think whoever is on the other side,

465
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: just cornerbacks other than Trevon Diggs, the corners to be

466
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: able to have a good game. Okay, Derek, Yeah, I

467
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: was gonna say that the big plays, but but I'll

468
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: change it to also, I think it has to be

469
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Speaker 1: a game where Dak plays clean. What I mean by

470
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: that is he can't laugh. He can't have the dumb interceptions.

471
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: They can't play volleyball out there. They can't do the

472
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Speaker 1: unforced error type stuff like. It has to be if

473
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Speaker 1: there's something how if a defender makes a great play

474
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Speaker 1: on the ball and gets interception, that is what it is.

475
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: But it can't be like, you know, you just throw

476
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Speaker 1: into triple coverage and end up with an intercepted. It

477
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: can't be ball hits guy in the chest, bounces up

478
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Speaker 1: and then get an interception, catch the ball. You have

479
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: to be focused this game. You can't have the unforced

480
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Speaker 1: ere this this team. If you if you have a

481
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: close game with him, as we just talked about, likelids

482
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: of winning are probably pretty small, so you can't have

483
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: those kinds of coming away with a lot of interceptions.

484
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Speaker 1: Just winning games regardless of the interceptions in this instance,

485
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: could you give people you're not not one. I'm saying

486
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Speaker 1: just if, And like I said before, it's not just

487
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: it's not just an interception, it's how you throw the interception.

488
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: He's got to be way more focused and way more

489
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: aware of protecting the ball than making the silly mistake. Right,

490
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: So if something happens with other team makes a great play,

491
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: that happens, that's an NFL football. You can't make the

492
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Speaker 1: silly mistake because then it just I think those kind

493
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Speaker 1: of things that you're going to combine that with the

494
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: ones that aren't just making great plays, and now you're

495
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: up to two or three turnovers. So I think you

496
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: gotta be smarter with the ball. Yeah, I mean, every

497
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Speaker 1: every touchdown pass that throws a maha has got to

498
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: be the one kick in the extra points that's got

499
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Speaker 1: to be the one. It can't be the other way

500
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: where it's a return for a touchdown. Suchdowns have got

501
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: to go off north and you know, he just can't

502
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: have a pick six. I mean, like you said, you

503
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: gotta be clean. He can maybe maybe they'll throw one

504
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: pick and you can recover from that. But but I

505
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: think I think the Buccaneers are challenged. I mean offensively,

506
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: even though they've got Tom, they don't score a lot

507
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: of points. So you know, you'll go back to that

508
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: game with twenty nineteen. I believe they played New England

509
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: and it was just a rain fast and it was

510
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: terrible and you know, a blocked punt. It was the

511
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: only touchdown that they got. I think they won thirteen

512
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: to nine, and it was because of that blocked punt.

513
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: And it was another game where you know, you know,

514
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: I think Garrett was out coached by the elements of

515
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: that game. Belichick, you know, knew what was happening with

516
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: wind and kickoffs and stuff like that. But you know, Brady,

517
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: but you give him, you give him a little bit,

518
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna take advantage of it. So I think you

519
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: just cannot have interceptions in short fields. And if that

520
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: means Dak has to be a little bit less aggressive

521
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: that I'm okay for play a Cooper rush take because

522
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: he keeps saying, I'm not worried about it's not gonna happen.

523
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm, you know, mentally tough and mentally focused,

524
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Speaker 1: which is which is fine with me. That's great, That's

525
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: what got him here. But maybe he should, you know,

526
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: take it back a little bit. Maybe you can't make

527
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: every one of those throws you think you can make.

528
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: That does maybe No, Brown's not gonna catch every every

529
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: pass over the middle that you thought. Now I'm gonna

530
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: tell you he's not gonna catch every pass you throw

531
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Speaker 1: to him over the middle like that. He's not. It's

532
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: not I don't know why he thinks that's Larry Fitzterill,

533
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: but it isn't. Does that Does that style of football

534
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: still work as successful for this team? Because early in

535
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: the season when they were doing that, when Cooper Rusher

536
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: was playing quarterback, the defense is playing out of its mind.

537
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: We have not seen that defense in several weeks. Do

538
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: you think they could still afford to play that style

539
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: of football that's a lot more conservative and expect their

540
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: defense to really be able to hold the other team disagree.

541
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you could play

542
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: conservative against his quarterback. Yeah, that's what that's all I'm saying.

543
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I'm gonna take my chances, and

544
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: I know they don't score points, but your defense, like

545
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: I said, you, you got to try and build a lead,

546
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean a big lead on this guy. And even

547
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: then he's probably gonna come back, you know. I mean,

548
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: we've seen him do it before. It was many moons ago.

549
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: But you just no lead safe with this guy. It

550
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: really really isn't you know the only thing that will

551
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: do my heart good is if you see the back

552
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: of his jersey with grass stains on it, if you

553
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: see Brady with green across the back and the two

554
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: with some grass across the bay. That's that's how you

555
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: win football games playing this guy who's getting kicked out,

556
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Because that's no but but that's what you're I mean,

557
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: every time you watch, every time you watch him play,

558
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: if he's got grass stains on his back, you're doing

559
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: your job. That that that affects how he plays. So

560
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at with that one. All right, Nick,

561
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: here we go. Are you to the point of saying,

562
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: what the heck play Xavier Roads and take your chances. Ah.

563
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: And by the way, Xavier Rhodes is the new corner

564
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: that they Yeah, it's not so new. Uh, it's a

565
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: football in the NFL. Yeah, you know, they don't have

566
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of options obviously. Yeah, I

567
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: mean I think I think so. I mean, I like, um,

568
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully Bland will be ready to go um

569
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Nashan Right. I don't know. I think, you know, I

570
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: think they're all going to be about the same. But

571
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes, it's one of those things like if you

572
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: if you've got one in you, yeah, let's hope it's

573
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, you know, yeah kind of that's what Derek. Yeah,

574
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: I think he's right now. I would if I were

575
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: putting my list together, he would be my fourth cornerback,

576
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: I think, right, Bland and Digs are the three that

577
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: I kind of roll with if they're all if if healthy,

578
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: assuming Bland's healthy, I roll with those three. But I

579
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: have him right there ready to jump in and quite frankly,

580
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: cat one ready to take off the right and I

581
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this yesterday and I'll go back to it.

582
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: I do think because of his size his length on

583
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: a guy like a Julio Jones, I would like to

584
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: see if there's some opportunities I have to kind of

585
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: match him up a little bit there and see if

586
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: I can kind of neutralize that a little bit. But

587
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: but ultimately, yeah, that's that's it. They are going to

588
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: be there, gonna have to really worry about what's happening

589
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position because of the receivers they're playing

590
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: this week and the quarterback that they're playing, and I

591
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: just don't know if they can match up completely. I

592
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: just think they got to kind of mix and match

593
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: things here and there, show them different kinds of looks

594
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: cornerback to to defensive back, I mean, a defense back

595
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: to wide receiver to see if they can, you know,

596
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: kind of do whatever they can with him. And well,

597
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer for you.

598
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: I would have to try to secretly sneak into practice

599
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: and watch to see how he looks. I have no

600
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: idea how he currently looks out there. So but I'm

601
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: with Derek, I mean, and I guess he'll be active, right,

602
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: so we'll see. It's not a hard position to kind

603
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: of rotate or anything like that. So I would assume

604
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: all of them play this game. I'm guessing he's not

605
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: a special teams guy because of his age, right, He's

606
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna probably have to play a little bit. Then it

607
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: depends on what the role is. Yeah, I mean for sure,

608
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: And I mean first round pick comes into the league

609
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: um and plays and starts, and he was, you know,

610
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: good player and all that stuff. So I doad he

611
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: played a lot of it. But you know, you want

612
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: to get here. To get here, you might have to

613
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: do what you have to do. Kellie James Washington had

614
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of you know, he was

615
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: on the practice squads too, you know, like he was

616
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: on practice squad, bills practice squad. I mean, he was

617
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: on practice squads. So you're you're you're doing the thing

618
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: you have to be doing a little some scout team,

619
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: you know stuff like that. Yeah, final question for you guys,

620
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: real quick. Uh uh hang on here in a second.

621
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Speaker 1: Who scares you more? Tampa's defensive line or their wide receivers.

622
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: It's a good one. Um, I think I think the

623
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers because of what we just talked about with

624
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: the corners, you know, they Evans and finally figured it out.

625
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: Evans and Godwin, they are playmakers. I think they're both

626
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Pro Pro bowlers at some point, and I think that

627
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: they are still better than what you've got at cornerback.

628
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: So just based off of what the Cowboys will be

629
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: facing with those guys, then I would say the receivers.

630
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: That's a hard one. Man. I would probably opt for

631
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: the receivers just because that's the quickest way to lose.

632
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: You give up a few big plays and bam, you're

633
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: already down fourteen points where you have a Washington game. Yeah,

634
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: the defensive line, true, but but no, I just I

635
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: just think you can probably like if you can't run

636
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: the ball. I've seen the Cowboys be successful when they

637
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: can't run the ball. Yes, I've not necessarily see them

638
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: be successful when they're giving up forty fifty yard plays

639
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: every you know, every few minutes. Yeah, that's where I'm

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Speaker 1: with the receivers. So I would say, just like you guys, receivers,

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Speaker 1: just the matchups there at cornerbacks versus receivers. Thank you

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Speaker 1: about some of the injured guys. There are three guys

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Speaker 1: in particular that haven't been playing that we hopefully expect

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Speaker 1: to hear some good news heading into the weekend. Tyler Beardist,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins, Layton Vanderesh. If I ask you to put

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Speaker 1: those in order of most important to the Cowboys success,

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Speaker 1: specifically versus Tampa Bay, how would you place them? Man,

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Speaker 1: what a good question. I'm gonna steal that one for

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Speaker 1: me today. Uh, give me Vanderesh, give me Beodish, give

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Speaker 1: me Hankins, Give me Hankins first. I go Hankins first,

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Speaker 1: and then and then Beardish and then vanderch exactly backwards. Damn,

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Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say, Hankins. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: because of Okay, that's a really good We would have

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Speaker 1: to know to Hankins come back and play exactly how

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Speaker 1: he was playing hopefully so um, but he was huge

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Speaker 1: in helping the Cowboys stop the run, the running the run,

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00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: defense improved the whole lot. And then you look at

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Speaker 1: what's happening with the offensive line and not having Tyler

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Speaker 1: Beatish in there. It seems like all those juggling around

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Speaker 1: is not working as well as we thought it might.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and then vanders he is missed and you

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Speaker 1: definitely need him, need him. But to me right now,

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Speaker 1: he does fall currently at the bottom of those three. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And another thing about Beotist, dude, I know I've been

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Speaker 1: you know, critical of him, but but anytime you lose

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Speaker 1: your center, it's not it's you're talking about the guy

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Speaker 1: that makes the line calls, you know, and that that

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Speaker 1: kind of changes a little bit of everything. And just

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Just recognition. You want the

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Speaker 1: guy that's been there. You know, Tampa Bay hasn't faced

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys like normal offensive line like ever, you know,

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Speaker 1: like in the last I mean, like think about two

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Speaker 1: just you know, they get Tyler Smith in his first game,

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Speaker 1: and then mcgoverny gets hurt and farniatt comes and I

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Speaker 1: mean so you know, even this game is going to

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Speaker 1: be kind of shuffled around a little bit. But but

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Speaker 1: I just think Hankins in the middle, that's another element

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Speaker 1: that the Buccaneers haven't seen when they face the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: It's just a really beefy guy, especially when they're dealing

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Speaker 1: with problems at center. Yeah, they haven't been exactly healthy

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Speaker 1: at center. They won't be healthy at center going into

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Speaker 1: this game. Start center. He said, yeah, they they they're down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll keep an eye on what the practice

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Speaker 1: report looks like for them at center because that might

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Speaker 1: be something that you know. The thing with the thing

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Speaker 1: with Layton Vanderesh, he's gotten to the point now where

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Speaker 1: he's making Hankins makes Vanderesh better because Vanderesh can run

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Speaker 1: behind somebody that's taken up at all these blocks. So

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Speaker 1: if the ball bounces outside with Fournette, or the ball

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Speaker 1: goes to the edge or the perimeter, now you got

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Speaker 1: Vanderesh playing downhill, which helps. That's great for having Hankins.

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Speaker 1: Mandman Clark is having to play so much that Vanderesh

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Speaker 1: helps DMan Clark. I was talking to somebody the organization

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Speaker 1: this morning about that, said, listen, if anything, having Vanderesh back,

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Speaker 1: it helps you with Clark. Clark is Clark is not

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Speaker 1: playing well because he's playing next to Barr, who hasn't

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Speaker 1: really played well either. So now you've got two guys

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Speaker 1: that aren't playing great. But vander Esh helps Clark be

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Speaker 1: better than what we've seen the last few weeks since

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Speaker 1: Vanderesh has been out. And that's primarily why my order

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Speaker 1: was very different than all of yours. I said, be

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Speaker 1: honest first, because in my opinion, they are going to win,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be the offensive line can move

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Speaker 1: the ball, and they went They move the ball best

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Speaker 1: when their offensive line is as good as it can be.

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Speaker 1: So be honest is first for me. Second is late Vanderesh,

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Speaker 1: mainly because of what you talked about. I think Clark

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Speaker 1: and Barr have been a big part of the reason

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Speaker 1: why the defense, particularly the run defense, has been suspect lately. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if there are a number of times when you see

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Speaker 1: them just not filling gaps, like they either they don't

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Speaker 1: recognize it or they just don't get there. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: see it. Forty two sees it, he just can't. Can't

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Speaker 1: that right. Thirty three sees it not clean all the time.

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Speaker 1: You see the play where Damon Clark literally took off

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Speaker 1: sprinting backwards like he was in deep cover two type

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Speaker 1: and it was a runver like right in a gap

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Speaker 1: that he should have been feeling, And I'm like, what

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Speaker 1: is he doing? Like, I don't know if there was

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Speaker 1: a bad call, the miscommunication. Maybe he was right and

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Speaker 1: everybody else was wrong. It looked like everybody else was

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Speaker 1: playing a different defense than he was. But it's those

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Speaker 1: kind of moments where I'm just like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Clark is I don't know if it's coming. It

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Speaker 1: might be coming a little too fast to him right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what they have on the field. I mean, I was

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Speaker 1: talking to this guy this morning about it, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I said, listen to comparing to me, It's like when

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Speaker 1: Darren Woodson was playing with Roy Williams and he would

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Speaker 1: line Roy Williams up and say that's who your that's

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Speaker 1: your guy, Go get him, or hey, you gotta blitz

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Speaker 1: or you gotta you know, there's just you know, even

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Speaker 1: on the touchdown that they had the other day, when

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Speaker 1: when you know, when you know the receiver's coming across

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Speaker 1: and Williams, he didn't mean he's got to get a

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Speaker 1: collision there, and he doesn't. And now that you know,

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Speaker 1: now it it's you know up and you know it's

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Speaker 1: a touchdown and you know, and that's that's just stuff.

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Speaker 1: Vander esh is not gonna miss that collision on a crosser.

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Speaker 1: That's just not gonna have. I will say this though

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Speaker 1: about Hankins, though, you know, if the Cowboys are gonna

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Speaker 1: beat Tampa. They gonna have to. They cannot let Fournette

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Speaker 1: just go off on it. And and I think it

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Speaker 1: did and and I think with him, I think you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look at when he was really playing, well,

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Speaker 1: it was that stretch going up against Minnesota, Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 1: and Barkley on Thanksgiving and for the Giants and then

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, you know, which he didn't plays. He missed

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Speaker 1: the game, that's right. He was hurt against the Giants

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Speaker 1: on the fourth down play when he reached back right right, yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but they didn't run the ball at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, whoever they put in there, Josephdai, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who they put in there, but they shut him down.

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Speaker 1: And I think Hankins in that middle has really solidified things,

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Speaker 1: coupled with with Um with Layton. The best part about

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Speaker 1: like they're all coming back, right, Yeah, sure, why not?

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Speaker 1: I'm hungry playoffs. All right, we appreciate you guys, Jonas,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. Tomorrow, we're gonna jump in to

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Speaker 1: some detail. We're gonna talk about that Tampa offense versus

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Evens, talk about maybe some things that are

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