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Speaker 1: right now. This is Eyes up here, and you're listening
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Speaker 1: My favorite kind of podcasting is film via audio. If
Speaker 1: you didn't know by now, my name is Chad. I'm
Speaker 1: a mark apparently, and every single week I'm joined here
Speaker 1: by the host, the Queen of Extreme Francine retired her
Speaker 1: glitzyed shirt from last week now, and in a lot
Speaker 1: of pain, I couldn't do it today. Guys, I apologize.
Speaker 1: My mouth is throbbing. You're lucky I showed up. My
Speaker 1: work ethic is strong. Even if I'm sick. I do
Speaker 1: what I need to do. So I'm here. But I
Speaker 1: would have called out today if I was able to.
Speaker 1: I almost said to you can the lovely Liz substitute
Speaker 1: for me, but it was so short notice I didn't
Speaker 1: think she would be able to. So I am, I'm here,
Speaker 1: but I got okay. So here's the story. Hear it?
Speaker 1: Do we have time? We got time? So here's the story.
Speaker 1: Monday today is Friday. Y'all know our schedule by now. Monday.
Speaker 1: I had to go to the dentist and I'm getting
Speaker 1: braces on the twenty eighth, So I had to go
Speaker 1: on Monday to get spacers put in my teeth. Now,
Speaker 1: I looked it up online, saw what the procedure. I
Speaker 1: was didn't think it was a big deal. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could do this, no problem. Well, apparently my teeth
Speaker 1: are all so close together. They were having trouble putting
Speaker 1: the spacers in. Pushing, pushing, pushing. The assistant had to
Speaker 1: call somebody else in because she couldn't get them between
Speaker 1: my teeth. You know, it was just when they would
Speaker 1: pop in, my gum would cut. It would cut my gum,
Speaker 1: so my mouth is bleeding. You have to put eight
Speaker 1: of them in. You got four on the top and
Speaker 1: four on the bottom. She got six or seven of
Speaker 1: them in, but in the back, I have two crowns
Speaker 1: that are next to each other. So she called somebody in.
Speaker 1: That lady continued to push, push, push, Now I'm laying down. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm laying down like this. She pushed so hard that
Speaker 1: the crown popped off and went down my throat. Ooh,
Speaker 1: like literally like oh, I had to grab it before
Speaker 1: I choked it down. And she was like, oh, what happened?
Speaker 1: And I said, you just knocked my crown out of
Speaker 1: my mouth. She went oh, and she walked out of
Speaker 1: the room. No apology, no, no nothing. She just left.
Speaker 1: So the other girl, who was very very sweet, she
Speaker 1: apologized profusely, and I was just like, it's okay, and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, it came off clean. We could just
Speaker 1: cement it back in. They had to call my dentist in.
Speaker 1: So my dentist walks in and she's just and now
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, am I paying for this? Like? Is it
Speaker 1: gonna cost me another thousand dollars? What am I doing here?
Speaker 1: She cemented it in, but they couldn't get the space
Speaker 1: hur in. So I had seven of them in and
Speaker 1: this one they said, you can just come back and
Speaker 1: get it done another day. Okay, I go home. Every
Speaker 1: single spacer pop pump pup, Oh, it's just on its
Speaker 1: all just say. Well. I tried to eat. They told
Speaker 1: me I can eat, they said, don't. I don't eat
Speaker 1: sticky foods. Don't chew gum, don't eat caramel, stay away
Speaker 1: from sweets if you can, like the sticky, laughy taffy,
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I came home. I think I ate.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I got checks mix or something,
Speaker 1: and I was just though, well, I tried to like
Speaker 1: suck on it to make it a little softer, and
Speaker 1: then you know, you nibble here and n well, everything
Speaker 1: broke because they said you can eat anything but but
Speaker 1: sticky stuff. I didn't know. So I call them. She says, oh,
Speaker 1: he's at lunch. You got to call back in an hour. Fine,
Speaker 1: call back in an hour. I said, listen, this is broke.
Speaker 1: This one's broke. Oh you can come back. Uh, maybe
Speaker 1: we can do it on the day that you get
Speaker 1: your braces done. Because what I'm doing is the top
Speaker 1: are getting braces. The bottom. I have to go back
Speaker 1: in six months to get the braces on the bottom
Speaker 1: because the overbite has to move back. Well, here they
Speaker 1: all busted. So I said, they're all broken. So she said,
Speaker 1: well then you have to go to her other office
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I said, fine. My mouth was full of blood.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't understand what's going on. The throbbing
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. So Wednesday I went to this different office.
Speaker 1: It was the lady that knocked my crown. I said,
Speaker 1: please let it be anyone but her. There she is
Speaker 1: standing there. So I said, oh, good morning, how are you?
Speaker 1: And she goes, I'm fine, how are you? And I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm good and she said so she said
Speaker 1: what happened and I said, yeah, they knocked my crown up.
Speaker 1: She goes, oh, that was me. And I'm waiting for
Speaker 1: her to start. No, sorry, no, nothing, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what a bitch. So I just said, well, just get
Speaker 1: them in please and get me out of here. Will
Speaker 1: She got seven of them, and of course that one
Speaker 1: in the back she couldn't get in. So the orthodonist
Speaker 1: who's doing my braces, I think that's who it is.
Speaker 1: He came in and he said, we got to put
Speaker 1: a spring. I said, okay, well the spring wouldn't fit.
Speaker 1: He had plyers he's pushing down. Did not fit. So
Speaker 1: finally he said, we got a metal wire. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wrap it around, I'm gonna twist it, I'm going to
Speaker 1: cut it. And that's going to be in your mouth,
Speaker 1: and I said fine, so he did that. Then he
Speaker 1: proceeded to tell me that when you got braces, like
Speaker 1: fifty or sixty years ago, you had to have a
Speaker 1: metal wire around every single tooth in your mouth. And
Speaker 1: now I have eight spacers. I would have had to
Speaker 1: do all thirty two teeth with this metal mine in
Speaker 1: the day. But anyway, so I came home Wednesday. All
Speaker 1: I've eaten is soup like butternut squash because it's very
Speaker 1: smooth and uh smooth and shakes and that's it. And
Speaker 1: oh and mashed up avocado like a baby baby food avocado.
Speaker 1: And I've lost two pounds in two days. Oh so
Speaker 1: that's the secret, huh, sony. And I'm starving and I'm mad,
Speaker 1: and I have another what twelve eleven days, so maybe
Speaker 1: I'll lose another eleven pounds. And you know, I'm getting
Speaker 1: I'm probably eating about between I would say six and
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty calories a day, which is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I'm sting. I'm starving, okay, and I'm watching food vlogs
Speaker 1: like an asshole. Okay, yeah, that's probably not good. Probably
Speaker 1: if you have food, did you have the inclination to
Speaker 1: maybe get some laffy taffy like they told you not
Speaker 1: to do. Were you attempted to have some la even biting.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to fight down. I'm literally sitting here with
Speaker 1: my mouth open all day long. I'm not putting pressure
Speaker 1: on because I think they're just rubber, like rubber bands.
Speaker 1: If you put too much pressure, they're gonna snap, and
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have to go back and They're going
Speaker 1: to do it all over again, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: bleed again. And if they another tooth out, I might
Speaker 1: knock the bitch out myself because I can't deal with
Speaker 1: this anymore. You could dial into the extreme here in
Speaker 1: the dentist office, and you know your teeth are shifting
Speaker 1: now because the face are so it's constant throbbing. He said,
Speaker 1: forty eight hours, you'll be fine. Well it's been forty
Speaker 1: eight hours and I'm still in pain. And it wakes
Speaker 1: me up in the middle of the night. That's like
Speaker 1: boom boom. This is this feeling. Yeah, it's like the
Speaker 1: heartbeat's terrible. It's the worst. So I'm just tired. I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: I know it could be a lot worse, and I
Speaker 1: know that before anybody shits on me, I understand. But
Speaker 1: right now I am in misery because I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: what you want to eat, and you just you're just
Speaker 1: hungry and you just want to eat something. I just
Speaker 1: want to eat. I'm just hungry. There's nothing that grosses
Speaker 1: me out more than teeth. Really, I can't even with
Speaker 1: the little girls and they're loose teeth, I can't, can't
Speaker 1: be in the room. I don't like it. It just
Speaker 1: makes me queasy. That sucker right out. Oh it makes
Speaker 1: you so cool. And little Breeze got this little tooth
Speaker 1: that's hanging on by a thread, and every time I
Speaker 1: talk to her, she's like wiggling it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you are a wuss. I'm like, there's an apple. Try
Speaker 1: I could work my kid? Uh, I forget which I
Speaker 1: think it was my daughter. She bit a chicken nugget
Speaker 1: and the tooth was in the noet. Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1: They made my stomach turn all that, both kids, and
Speaker 1: they I think they both lost the tooth and they
Speaker 1: brought stuff to the room, like the tooth fairy. It
Speaker 1: was really cute. It's nice. I'm not even I have
Speaker 1: legit like I had, like a wave just come over me,
Speaker 1: like a heat waves. You are such a pussy. It's
Speaker 1: I just don't like teeth now. But now here's the
Speaker 1: funny part. So a movie like there's a horror movie
Speaker 1: called The Dentist with Corbyn Burns and cor Yeah, cor
Speaker 1: Corbyn b what's yeah Corbyn Burnson. I can watch that
Speaker 1: because it's clearly fake. It's clearly you know that. You
Speaker 1: can see the blood and bah bah and he gets
Speaker 1: off on the blood and all that. It is terrible.
Speaker 1: Good lord. Yeah, it's weird. It's the dentist. There's a
Speaker 1: few of them, and it's over the top like villain.
Speaker 1: But real teeth anybody who's a tooth it is. And
Speaker 1: now I can sit in the dentist's chair and get
Speaker 1: my teeth worked one, no problem. I've been told my
Speaker 1: dentist said, my parents did a good job with my
Speaker 1: dental care. Girl me up. Anybody else's teeth problems. It
Speaker 1: gives me such like ough, just nasty. My good friend Shannon,
Speaker 1: who you know, is Daphne, she can't she can't be
Speaker 1: in the same room if you're brushing your teeth. The
Speaker 1: sound of the brushing of the teeth grosses her. Out
Speaker 1: and one day I ran around with my tooth chasing
Speaker 1: her and she was getting so mad. See, I gotta
Speaker 1: have the water running because I don't like it either.
Speaker 1: I don't, not to that extent, but I have the
Speaker 1: water running because I don't like the sound of it.
Speaker 1: Like just brush on too. I know exactly what she's
Speaker 1: talking about, but I have the water running all the time.
Speaker 1: Guys are weirdos. I don't care about the water build.
Speaker 1: Let the water build be nine thousand dollars, thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to hear your brush. Your deep
Speaker 1: ain't a planned what wow? Well, yeah, that doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: And usually the dentist, you know, I'm pretty lackadaisil when
Speaker 1: it comes to the dentist. I'm just like whatever, Just
Speaker 1: do you know I had two c sections. You could
Speaker 1: do whatever. But I had tears coming down my face.
Speaker 1: They were pushing to freaking hard on my gum line
Speaker 1: and then I was just bleeding and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're bleeding, and she gets a tissue and she's going
Speaker 1: like this to my face and I'm just like, can
Speaker 1: I just get out of here? Please, like, just go
Speaker 1: out of here. Well, so what's the what's the update
Speaker 1: about the braces when you'll have them twenty eighth, twenty eighth, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because right now every single spacer is in my mouth
Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be because I'm not eating and
Speaker 1: I'm not biting. So that's a much day. And then
Speaker 1: we record on a Friday. That'll be the second. So
Speaker 1: you'll have a nice new set of braces. Now you're
Speaker 1: gonna get get colors. You're gonna get like lear or
Speaker 1: white whatever. It was five hundred dollars more, but I said,
Speaker 1: I don't want the metal. I want to as little
Speaker 1: as possible, you know, I don't want it to stand
Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb. I used to change the
Speaker 1: colors of my rubber bands so when you smile, to
Speaker 1: be different colors. So I didn't orange for the mets.
Speaker 1: I also did. This is very marky, and this is
Speaker 1: why I said you called me a mark before we
Speaker 1: started something. I said I had blue and yellow for
Speaker 1: the WWF at one point on my braces and people,
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly fine to admit it. I can't with him.
Speaker 1: Good lord, it made me who I am today. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just wonderful. Oh yeah, So anyway, That's that's where
Speaker 1: I'm at. I did I say, did I tell you?
Speaker 1: When I traveled for Boston two weeks ago, I got
Speaker 1: a COVID test and I had my little one with me,
Speaker 1: and I had my sunglasses on because they went so
Speaker 1: high up my nose. I had two tears come right
Speaker 1: down the side of my face unprompted, and I was
Speaker 1: like just driving. She's like, are you okay? I was like,
Speaker 1: that hurts, I'll be okay. So when when something can
Speaker 1: plug the tear ducts from you know, it's yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you went deep. I tried. I was a man, I was,
Speaker 1: I was holding, but she went so far into my
Speaker 1: brain that it popped to right out one side on
Speaker 1: each other. I can't imagine that. That's yeah, that would hurt.
Speaker 1: Another thing I'm pissed off about is is Twitter. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I submitted every single thing that you are supposed to submit,
Speaker 1: and they don't even all it is. Was it came
Speaker 1: up on my timeline, my Twitter feed, whatever it's called.
Speaker 1: Like I was. I woke up one day and I'm
Speaker 1: scrolling through whatever I have. You know, you push your
Speaker 1: notifications and it just says your your Twitter verification has
Speaker 1: been denied. I can't believe that, no explanation, know nothing.
Speaker 1: So now I'm just at a loss for words because
Speaker 1: everything that I submitted was what they needed. And it
Speaker 1: just pisses me off because there's literally people like two
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine followers. I don't know who they are,
Speaker 1: no offense to anybody, but they got the blue check mark.
Speaker 1: Crazy when you got denied. I was tempted to do
Speaker 1: it just to see if they would do it, because
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the status? What you have? Thirties? What
Speaker 1: thirty six thousand followers most year? I mean, like, how
Speaker 1: can they not see the apt mentions, the responses. It's
Speaker 1: not like you just sit there and you promote Twitch,
Speaker 1: you promote Patreon, or you promote the podcast. You're responding
Speaker 1: to people, You're constantly marketing stuff. How could they not
Speaker 1: give you the check mark? And I saw somebody else
Speaker 1: that was like, oh, I'm so happy I got I
Speaker 1: can't remember who it was, And I was like, that
Speaker 1: makes they had like four thousand followers. There's a one
Speaker 1: of the fans was telling me there's a fan, a
Speaker 1: WWE fan that got a check mark because he's a fan.
Speaker 1: I guess super fan. Yeah, you have to submit websites
Speaker 1: that have your images on them that can prove who
Speaker 1: you are. I mean, what better website to submit than
Speaker 1: wwe It doesn't get more, you know, because I'm on
Speaker 1: the alumni Alumni. I'm all over the videos. I submitted
Speaker 1: that one. I submitted the pro wrestling teas to show
Speaker 1: them that I have my own store all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and denied that's yeah, that's and that's he like, that's
Speaker 1: what the whole thing? What does it matter anymore? It doesn't.
Speaker 1: But for me, it just I've had people say, you know,
Speaker 1: you really should have a check mark, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: don't you think I want? I just I joined so late.
Speaker 1: I've only been on Twitter for three years. Some people
Speaker 1: have been on for like twelve since they started. I
Speaker 1: joined so late. So when I first joined, they weren't
Speaker 1: taking requests anymore. They just started taking requests like a
Speaker 1: month ago. So I submitted my info right away, and
Speaker 1: then it took them two weeks to tell me you're denied,
Speaker 1: and I was like, screw you. Twitter. Yeah, well, at
Speaker 1: first when they opened it up, it was like you
Speaker 1: had to wait to see when it hit your profile.
Speaker 1: So I was casually going through. I saw it hit
Speaker 1: mine so that I texted it to you too. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm on it. I'm already I already submitted it when
Speaker 1: you texted me, I already sent the stuff in and
Speaker 1: I was just antiently waiting. So now I had one
Speaker 1: more source, a secret source that can possibly get me
Speaker 1: the check mark. So I'm just waiting. But I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, it just bothers me. It bothers me that
Speaker 1: I did everything right and I didn't get it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you absolutely did. It's funny. Chris Pavone had his check
Speaker 1: mark from when he was with WWE because he was
Speaker 1: on Twitter back when Twitter was still giving out the
Speaker 1: check marks. Yep. And he's got you know, one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty nine thousand followers from when he was in
Speaker 1: WWE and when he was contemplating, you know, leaving wrestling
Speaker 1: and starting his own business, he was like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to keep my Twitter because I have a
Speaker 1: blue check mark. I have one hundred thousand plus followers.
Speaker 1: So he's doing all his serious, you know, motivational stuff
Speaker 1: and all his his things under Craft Daddy WWE. Okay,
Speaker 1: and guess what if you try to change your your name,
Speaker 1: they will take the check mark away from you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well right back, right back, had that done? I know, really, Kerry,
Speaker 1: I think I think she told me her tea was
Speaker 1: like in small case and she wanted to capitalize the T,
Speaker 1: and she did, and they took her check mark away
Speaker 1: from her. Sometimes that's all it takes, is yeah, because
Speaker 1: I wanted to change my handle and then I was
Speaker 1: like no, because now it's one everything that I do
Speaker 1: and it's just a pain in the as to go
Speaker 1: and change twenty different things. So I'm just keeping it
Speaker 1: the way it is. But like you said, I don't
Speaker 1: think the check mark really matters. Everybody knows it's me,
Speaker 1: but it just looks nice and it's just professional looking
Speaker 1: and I just want it for whatever reason. But no,
Speaker 1: you have to. You need it, especially for you. You're
Speaker 1: on Patreon, you're on Twitch, you're on cameo, you're on Twitter,
Speaker 1: you're on Instagram, you're on everything, I know, literally everything.
Speaker 1: Now you don't have your own website. I used to,
Speaker 1: but I to, Yeah I don't anymore. You might you
Speaker 1: know what I might suggest for you, And this could
Speaker 1: be something too, that might be something that toggles their people.
Speaker 1: There's a thing called link Tree. Have you ever heard
Speaker 1: of that link Tree is. I think it's free, but
Speaker 1: it takes all of your life and puts them in
Speaker 1: one spot. I have it on your profile. People click
Speaker 1: link Tree and there's all your shit right there. Gotcha? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did hear about it, now that you're well, it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know. It pisses me off that people
Speaker 1: who are not out there have a check mark and me,
Speaker 1: I'm busting my ass every week and I can't get
Speaker 1: a check marks. It's just a downer, So I feel
Speaker 1: the frustration for you. We were awaiting our guests to
Speaker 1: join us here in a few moments, so we won't
Speaker 1: go too into detail, but I mean there was one.
Speaker 1: I had found this article the other day, and I
Speaker 1: can't really pull it up in the detail that maybe
Speaker 1: I would have if we had more time. But there
Speaker 1: was an article about the women of Extreme Okay, and
Speaker 1: it was a whole thing written about the history of
Speaker 1: ECW and your history getting into the business. I found
Speaker 1: it interesting that the article was written now Okay, because
Speaker 1: there really hasn't been anything about that class, you know,
Speaker 1: written on a major, major platform. But this ran down
Speaker 1: your whole entire career, and when we have more time,
Speaker 1: I'd love to dig into it more. But kind of
Speaker 1: interesting to see how this entity wrote your career trajectory.
Speaker 1: But do you think the women of extreme don't get
Speaker 1: enough press? And this article was nice is everybody, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they get enough press in the mainstream
Speaker 1: wrestling media. I mean, I guess I agree with you,
Speaker 1: you know, not to be trying to put myself over
Speaker 1: or anything. But we, you know, we did a lot
Speaker 1: back then. We did things that women, you know, I
Speaker 1: should say, valets and managers so to speak, weren't doing,
Speaker 1: you know, and getting beat up by the guys and
Speaker 1: taking finishers and all that kind of stuff. And I
Speaker 1: think not even the women, but I think eac W
Speaker 1: as a whole sometimes just gets pushed to the side
Speaker 1: because more so you hear about WWF and WCW back
Speaker 1: in the nineties and then they'll say, oh, in the
Speaker 1: you know the little company ECW or you know the
Speaker 1: indie company. I hate when they used to the indie company.
Speaker 1: We weren't an indie company. An indie company back then
Speaker 1: did not have syndicated television, weekly television, pay per views,
Speaker 1: video games, dolls, or action figures. That's to me that
Speaker 1: that's a major company, you know. And I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of people used to just discredit what we
Speaker 1: all did for the business. We always had that specific
Speaker 1: hardcore fan base that everybody loves to talk about, and
Speaker 1: we were underground, and you know, I just feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like if we could have continued, we would
Speaker 1: have been more mainstream, if we had the finances obviously
Speaker 1: to promote ourselves more. And I'll say it again, I
Speaker 1: believe TNN was a nail in our coffin for us.
Speaker 1: So I just don't think it's the women in general.
Speaker 1: I feel like the company, maybe not so much individuals,
Speaker 1: but I feel like the company kind of gets pushed
Speaker 1: to the side. Yeah, because we were always known as
Speaker 1: the number three company out of the big three. They
Speaker 1: included us in the Big three, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people just called us this little indie fed that ran
Speaker 1: out of a bingo hall. So it's like, oh, they
Speaker 1: only ran every three weeks out of a bingo hall. No,
Speaker 1: we toured, we traveled, we went places, We did a
Speaker 1: lot of things. We were on pay per view, like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you have to do to get respect? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see the watch along that we have this week.
Speaker 1: The crowd of a house show that was ravenus could
Speaker 1: have been a pay per view the way were reacting
Speaker 1: the title. They what they say is the title is
Speaker 1: Women of ECW. Their stories are more than MEETCI changing
Speaker 1: the roles of women in wrestling and the emergence of ECW. Well,
Speaker 1: that's nice, you know, That's that's nice to hear. And
Speaker 1: everybody who comes up to me always says, you know,
Speaker 1: with hell you this wanting to happen, And maybe that's true,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's not true. But I just I feel
Speaker 1: like we, like the girls all worked really really hard,
Speaker 1: and I think we left our mark in this business,
Speaker 1: and just you know, as a whole, I just don't
Speaker 1: feel like ECW gets enough credit for what it gave
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Speaker 1: of the eyes up here at Family. Here's what it
Speaker 1: says under your picture says. Although Francine looked the part
Speaker 1: of diva, she certainly had no problems taking bumps and
Speaker 1: getting physical in the ring when asked of her, Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you whoever that artist. In nineteen ninety three, while
Speaker 1: Francy was living a pretty normal life but working in
Speaker 1: a job she hated, selling insurance in Philadelphia. She saw
Speaker 1: a television commercial while she was eating dinner. I'll have
Speaker 1: to save that because our guest is now joining us.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, would you like to introduce them? Oh? I
Speaker 1: love to introduce them? Yes, please do? I mean, growing
Speaker 1: up as a fan, how could you not love the Bushwhackers?
Speaker 1: And joining us today is WWE Hall of Famer, the
Speaker 1: great Bushwhacker? Luke Hi, handsome? How you doing it? I'm great?
Speaker 1: How are you? Bloody? Love me? Tell your mother? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I love the boys. I can listen to
Speaker 1: you so all day long. Let's get close quarters. Woe,
Speaker 1: come on over. How have you been good? I've been good.
Speaker 1: I just after a sixteen months, I'm back on the road.
Speaker 1: You know, I just read I'm going to start with that.
Speaker 1: I just read that you just were worked in May wrestling.
Speaker 1: Since since the fifth, the tenth of May, I've worked
Speaker 1: four shows. What are you doing on the road? Hey?
Speaker 1: Are you loving it? I never went all with my
Speaker 1: premises for seven months? True? A lot of people haven't.
Speaker 1: I mean in a year, you know, I just go
Speaker 1: to the gym. My family. We haven't gone out of
Speaker 1: kneeding or anything, you know which. Anyhow, we online we're rolling.
Speaker 1: We're going right now? Are we rocking and rolling? Well,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, how do you feel
Speaker 1: being back in the ring, Because you did retire for
Speaker 1: a little bit and you did some autograph signings, you're
Speaker 1: out and a belt, but now you're working again. How's
Speaker 1: your body feeling? Good? Good? The only time I was
Speaker 1: out of the ring was when I was booking IWA
Speaker 1: and Puerto Rico from two oh one to two oh nine,
Speaker 1: two o eight, I was out of the ring. But
Speaker 1: I've been in the ring since then. So you've been
Speaker 1: working a regular schedule up until COVID. Until COVID, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you know, working when working when anyone wants to
Speaker 1: book me, that's true. Well, that's that's the not everybody
Speaker 1: wants a dinosaur. You look wonderful this year. I'm seventy
Speaker 1: this year, I'm seventy five years of age. God bless you.
Speaker 1: You look wonderful as hands as ever. Let me tell you, mate,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Francine, I'm like a a car on
Speaker 1: the front of a car, like all polished. That opened
Speaker 1: me up, and I'm an eminent side. Now you are not.
Speaker 1: You know you won't remember this, but I I remember
Speaker 1: this the first time I ever met you and Butch.
Speaker 1: We were doing I don't remember where it was, but
Speaker 1: we were doing the signing. It was I think it
Speaker 1: was might have been before you guys came into E.
Speaker 1: C W. We were doing the signing. It was an
Speaker 1: outdoor signing. I was sitting at a table and you
Speaker 1: and Butch come walking down. There were stairs behind us,
Speaker 1: and you just came over and you both licked my face.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that, And that was my first
Speaker 1: It will never been the same since I haven't. So
Speaker 1: you're okay, we haven't. That's hilarious. I loved it. Well,
Speaker 1: you started wrestling in what nineteen sixty two? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: made you want to be a wrestler? Next door? The
Speaker 1: next door neighbor was a body builder, and then he
Speaker 1: went to mister New Zealand and he placed second. The
Speaker 1: judge for the show was a past mister New zealandteen
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty, mister New Zealand, and he said, answer the show.
Speaker 1: And the judge said to my neighbor, he says, do
Speaker 1: you want to make some money with that body? And
Speaker 1: my neighbor said how. He says, we'll come into this
Speaker 1: gym in Wellington, which is eight miles away. He said,
Speaker 1: and you know we've got wrestling rings there. We've got
Speaker 1: two rings there, not wrestling boxing rings. Now, this gym
Speaker 1: was like the first Rocky movie, the steam room in
Speaker 1: the back with the pipes, rap ring, all kettlebells lying
Speaker 1: around the floor. There's only there's only a squat rack
Speaker 1: and a bench bess rack. No other machines and that
Speaker 1: was it. And then they had two boxing rings. There
Speaker 1: are about a full off the flour. The floor was
Speaker 1: the boxing rings. The floor was as hard as the
Speaker 1: four you're standing on. There's four ropes twenty feet apart.
Speaker 1: The ropes in New Zealand the commission had to be
Speaker 1: twenty feet apart. I don't know why, but that was
Speaker 1: the law. And you know there was always four ropes.
Speaker 1: It wasn't too It wasn't till Jim Barnett came into
Speaker 1: New Zealand. You heard the Jim Barnett right, yeah, Jim Bynette.
Speaker 1: He opened up Australia w CW and Australia and sixty
Speaker 1: five and when he come out to New Zealand later
Speaker 1: on in the sixties, we went down to a three ring,
Speaker 1: a three rope ring, and it was it was rounds too.
Speaker 1: The main event was eight eight minutes, and if you
Speaker 1: didn't if you didn't do six rounds, the people wouldn't
Speaker 1: come back. They think they were screwed, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And then the end of it, and then
Speaker 1: the second The match before that was eight five minutes.
Speaker 1: You know, I used to do eight five or eight
Speaker 1: six minutes, and I had to do six. At least
Speaker 1: I had to do thirty minutes too, good morning. There
Speaker 1: were three minute rounds, five minute rounds, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it stops. And then if you're getting
Speaker 1: the heat up on a guy and it stops, and
Speaker 1: then you had to wait. If you're a single, you
Speaker 1: had to wait till the bell rings and dive in
Speaker 1: and try and build a heat again. That's different. Wow.
Speaker 1: Jim Banny came in and he made ten minute rounds
Speaker 1: and that hence the ten minute matches. When Jim ben
Speaker 1: bad It came to New Zealand, say seventy seventy one,
Speaker 1: he that was ten minute match, ten minute rounds, and
Speaker 1: then we got to twelve minute rounds, fifteen minute rounds.
Speaker 1: So we got rid of the bloody you know, the
Speaker 1: the you know the eight minutes and going through the
Speaker 1: long time. He had all of a sudden went to
Speaker 1: from from British style European wrestling to American wrestling. You know,
Speaker 1: European wrestling, when you threw a guy down, you had
Speaker 1: to stay with him. And you know, if you threw
Speaker 1: him down and you let him go, you couldn't go
Speaker 1: and touch him. You had to go with him and
Speaker 1: you went down. I don't know whether you knew that
Speaker 1: this is going back. Yeah, that's that's difference between European
Speaker 1: and American. Yeah, Eddy four move where you had to
Speaker 1: go with him if you wanted to work with him
Speaker 1: on the map and you couldn't. You couldn't stomp or
Speaker 1: you couldn't punch. You had to do the British upper
Speaker 1: you do the fourm like that or the out British
Speaker 1: upper cut and then and you do the need drop
Speaker 1: or they drop. You couldn't kick with your foot. Huh.
Speaker 1: You guys are shooting over there. Yeah, the pice the
Speaker 1: police would come in the ring and stop the match,
Speaker 1: the police with the commission. That's he that. Yeah, that's different.
Speaker 1: Now I wasn't aware of that. That's uh. So you
Speaker 1: go if you go eighty five minutes. That's not a Broadway, right,
Speaker 1: that's like that's like a Broadway plus like another mile
Speaker 1: how long? Shows? Back then it was the root that
Speaker 1: was the European British style, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So what so when when did you and and Butch
Speaker 1: joined forces together? Sixty six? Sixty six? Okay, so you
Speaker 1: you had started training in sixty two, so you had
Speaker 1: a couple of years under your fag Sweet William sweats
Speaker 1: gorgeous Teddy Williams. And then I switched to sweet William.
Speaker 1: Jim Bannet changed the name. He said, that's the gorgeous teddy.
Speaker 1: He changes the sweet William and uh because I was
Speaker 1: going home to Australia and working against and I was
Speaker 1: like them too. You know. When I first started, I
Speaker 1: was one seventy five, soaking wet, oh wow. Sixty two
Speaker 1: and then and and then I started going to Australia
Speaker 1: in about sixty six sixty seven. In the course, there's
Speaker 1: spirits Arion, Maria Milana, all the and up your way,
Speaker 1: Dominic Denucci, Killer Kowowski, Uh, Jesus tarsand Tyler, all the
Speaker 1: all the top guys, bull Bulldog brow Brew. You know,
Speaker 1: Bulldog brower King Curtis mark Lewin, Mik Mark Luhn was
Speaker 1: the booker Okay Abdulla the Butcher. He had the Japanese
Speaker 1: Fuji and Tanaka. He had the von Erics Wolder, Fritz
Speaker 1: von Eieric. It was heavy. It went from British you know,
Speaker 1: I went from British wrestling to heavy American wrestling with
Speaker 1: grab a Hole and then kicked the shit out of him,
Speaker 1: Baby a Hole. Then he'll kick the shit out of him.
Speaker 1: Because you were you worked in New Zealand, and then
Speaker 1: you worked in Canada. For still in Australia, first for
Speaker 1: Jim Bannett to where I learned to patch and kick,
Speaker 1: and then the governor, and then in the late the
Speaker 1: late sixties I worked a lot of Singapore, Bangkok around
Speaker 1: there and now in Japan, and then seventy two seventy
Speaker 1: two in the sixties I worked against Andre you know,
Speaker 1: he was six seven foot four, three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: pounds with a big afro, which to me, worked with
Speaker 1: him a lot in New Zealand. He never come to
Speaker 1: North America when we went to when we first come
Speaker 1: to North America, which was Montreal, Andrea came in six
Speaker 1: months before us, so Killikwaski Andrea was the main baby
Speaker 1: and Kilikowski was a main heel, and of course we
Speaker 1: knew Killer from Australia, so we made the two top
Speaker 1: guys in the territory. And that Grand Prix was running
Speaker 1: three towns a night, and the Rugos were in the
Speaker 1: same area and they were running one town to night.
Speaker 1: That's you're you're all over the place. That's what a
Speaker 1: history though I didn't know this history, mate, can. I
Speaker 1: didn't know this history until later, but said that that
Speaker 1: was in North America. That was a hotspot of wrestling
Speaker 1: in the early seventies. Toronto Montreal was drawing the biggest
Speaker 1: crowds regularly at that time. Of course they had the
Speaker 1: main guys Killer Kawawski, who had sold out matters the
Speaker 1: Square Gardens in the sixties and seventies. And they got
Speaker 1: Andre the first time they ever, you know, Gene Freree,
Speaker 1: not Andre, the giant Jean Free. Yeah, that's all unbelievable,
Speaker 1: you know. I'll just say about news. Dominic Dnucci always
Speaker 1: says about that w CW that was like the highlight
Speaker 1: of his career was back there because he thought that
Speaker 1: that was an unbelievable territory and the response at the
Speaker 1: time was off the charts and that was one of
Speaker 1: the favorite places he ever worked. Where in Australia, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well Dominic Domic was a big run down there Italian. See,
Speaker 1: Australia is full of a lot of people immigrated from
Speaker 1: Italy and Greece down there, and Australia had towns prenominantly
Speaker 1: Greek and Italian, and you know Murray and Milano and
Speaker 1: Dominic Danucci Italian and the Spiritus Aaron. I don't know
Speaker 1: whether you heard of him, absolutely big Greek from Hu
Speaker 1: and then he worked for Vincinia a lot and then
Speaker 1: he was a big baby face down there, the Greek babyface.
Speaker 1: You are incredible. How how did you guys? Uh? Did
Speaker 1: you get recruited to go to w W? At the time?
Speaker 1: Stealing promoter knew the Vashon's and Morris he met them.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he met them, and that maybe
Speaker 1: in Japan. And this is not the same promoter that
Speaker 1: got me started. Now he's been brought out by another
Speaker 1: guy in New Zealand, and that who was an ex
Speaker 1: detective who hated drugs, but he was a drunk He
Speaker 1: hated drugs, but he was a drunk. He ended up
Speaker 1: being publican. He owned hotels. Funny part of everyone he
Speaker 1: hide was everyone he hided with big druggies and he
Speaker 1: had and he had to let guys go in New
Speaker 1: Zealand because the peace gave him a warning. They told him,
Speaker 1: we know you guys are a smoke This is in
Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies and we know you guys are
Speaker 1: on smoking Wei because we've seen him smoking it in
Speaker 1: the street. And that that he had to get rid
Speaker 1: of different guys in the street. No other place to
Speaker 1: getting back to the story, Morrison. So that's how we
Speaker 1: got over. Morris and Butcher brought us over. They owned
Speaker 1: They owned Grand Prix with Edward Copontier. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: you've heard of Edward Copontier time frenchman did He did
Speaker 1: the French broadcasting for w w E. Right, okay, so
Speaker 1: what year did did you guys join with Vince? Vince
Speaker 1: was ninety eight eight eight eight eight eight. Sorry, well,
Speaker 1: let me just I'll give the backstory quickly. So I
Speaker 1: mean Butch and Luke as the sheep herders completely. I
Speaker 1: remember the first time I saw you guys as a
Speaker 1: little little one. I was scared to death of you
Speaker 1: because of the bloody matches that you guys had and
Speaker 1: you're brawling and you're kicking ass. And then when he
Speaker 1: gets to the ww F in nineteen eighty eight, Vince
Speaker 1: has a different vision for you guys. You become the
Speaker 1: Bushwhackers and then become the most lovable tag team that
Speaker 1: they ever had. That's what I was gonna say. You
Speaker 1: guys were the cutest, the cutest wrestlers ever like you
Speaker 1: were just you reminded me of big Teddy Bears, you
Speaker 1: know who the Funny pudd is. A lot of people,
Speaker 1: a lot of people down south, they didn't realize we
Speaker 1: were the same guys. They said, how can two guys
Speaker 1: go from being hide Cooled before hide cool became a
Speaker 1: name brand to comical? And that was easy. We were
Speaker 1: you know, we were w A and we just had
Speaker 1: an angle with with with the guy in the wheelchair magnet. No, no,
Speaker 1: we've just done that. Two weeks before that. I got
Speaker 1: the call, we're working with a rock and roll express
Speaker 1: in w A. And and we got the call and
Speaker 1: you know, we were wrestless in the n w A
Speaker 1: or blood serist and kick ass ones and that. But
Speaker 1: when we went to with WWE, you know we're old
Speaker 1: enough to know money. Money's money, merchandise, merchandise. That's true.
Speaker 1: You guys, those daysments made you a celebrity. But you're
Speaker 1: so versatile that you can you can do it all
Speaker 1: so that your phenomenal workers. You're a good baby. Actually,
Speaker 1: about four years ago, I did some babe wire matches,
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus as a heel, as a heel because the
Speaker 1: baby face I was in his hometown. And it was
Speaker 1: hard too, because the people wanted to cheer meat and
Speaker 1: I had to go way out to get the heat.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yep, I understand. Well, I
Speaker 1: always I started watching you guys when you were in WWF,
Speaker 1: So when I would see the bushwhackers, I loved, like,
Speaker 1: I just thought you guys were big teddy bears, and
Speaker 1: I loved the gimmick because it was fun. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I went a little bush in my life. You know,
Speaker 1: they usually told me I'm they usually kill me, I'm shaved.
Speaker 1: That's a little bushwhacker humor, there's sure. I had a book.
Speaker 1: I had this book. It was called The Big Book
Speaker 1: of Pro Wrestling, and inside of it was I got
Speaker 1: this had to be nineteen eighty seven. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys are just biting people, ripping the heads, blood everywhere,
Speaker 1: all over you, all over them. And then when I
Speaker 1: see you guys marching down the railroad track for the
Speaker 1: first time, it was like a change in culture. But again,
Speaker 1: what a what a lasting legacy. Now you guys are
Speaker 1: in the w W Hall of Fame. I mean you'll
Speaker 1: be forever ingrained in the you know, the marching and
Speaker 1: like Francine said, you licked the side of her face.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many people have come up to you
Speaker 1: over the years with the same story. You know. You
Speaker 1: know last year too, we went in the progressing Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Too much deserved. Yeah, that's that's voted by
Speaker 1: the past, the past hall of Famers. That's that Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Well, may I ask you a question. I
Speaker 1: just watched it this morning. E c W is where
Speaker 1: I you know, That's that's what I'm know for you
Speaker 1: guys came in for a couple of shots. How did
Speaker 1: did Paul call you to do that? Like? How were
Speaker 1: you contacted and what was the deal? The yes, we
Speaker 1: would only been out of ww for about four months
Speaker 1: or five six months. The poor calls for that and
Speaker 1: then he's and after that, we'd like to start you,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'll call you when we need you,
Speaker 1: you know, in a month or two months down the road. Now,
Speaker 1: at the time, we were hot and on the independent
Speaker 1: circuit and we had every weekend we had three bookings.
Speaker 1: You know, it's Thursday, Friday and Saturday, or Friday and
Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday. So we came in and worked the three
Speaker 1: shows and they were in Florida for Paul leave and
Speaker 1: that and that, and you know, we're straight up guys.
Speaker 1: You know, when we tell a person we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna work for you, we don't let them down. Now,
Speaker 1: we were on the marquees for a lot of independent
Speaker 1: hang on and for a lot of independent workers. You know,
Speaker 1: months ahead we got bookings, and that we told Paul,
Speaker 1: you know, we needed, you know, at least to give
Speaker 1: them a month, six weeks notice, month notice long the whole.
Speaker 1: The following Friday, he called us first thing in the morning,
Speaker 1: he said, we need you tonight for the weekend. That
Speaker 1: was classic Paul. Though. Now we were booked and we
Speaker 1: were under marquis for all these independent people who were
Speaker 1: booking us regularly, you know what I mean. I booked
Speaker 1: us up for a year and I said to him, Paul,
Speaker 1: I said to a holy kid, to call the guy
Speaker 1: with a cane, who was huh Sandman, you know the
Speaker 1: other guy Dreamer Dreamer, Yeah and that. And I said
Speaker 1: to Dreamer, you don't let me give them a month's
Speaker 1: notice and that blah blah blah. So he went back
Speaker 1: and that, and the next day I called, well, you
Speaker 1: don't want to say you don't need us, that Paul
Speaker 1: doesn't need you. Oh oh, Man, see that because you
Speaker 1: came in and you did the Dudleys. The whole story storyline,
Speaker 1: We come in the Dudleys and that, and we're going
Speaker 1: to work with Man and his partner Y Sandman's partner
Speaker 1: in the match I saw it was dream Dream Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we we weren't actually going to come in and
Speaker 1: do a thing. And they shoot an angle with Sandman
Speaker 1: in Dreamer. That was the whole storyline. Yeah, Because then
Speaker 1: it was just like you were gone, and I never
Speaker 1: knew what happened because we I mean, we've had people
Speaker 1: coming and out, you know, like Scott Hall worked for
Speaker 1: us for a weekend. Like people just didn't stay it
Speaker 1: was like a revolving door. But I had heard that
Speaker 1: we were supposed to YouTube more, but I never knew
Speaker 1: the backstory to what what happened. Yeah, so that was it.
Speaker 1: You know, he was going to give us a month's notice,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, coming to set receptions great, but
Speaker 1: it was Paul. I heard that he changed the television
Speaker 1: and he did that a lot. That's why the eared
Speaker 1: tickets he had. I heard that people who were buying
Speaker 1: the ear tickets and that they were banned up because
Speaker 1: there was a lot of us a minute he had tickets,
Speaker 1: and you know, three weeks out, after three weeks out,
Speaker 1: the tickets triple. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, Well I I
Speaker 1: feel bad because you guys got a great reaction, You
Speaker 1: got a heal reaction. Yeah. But you know, there's a
Speaker 1: few things in life where I should have said fuck
Speaker 1: the Independence and then Paul made fuck the Independent people.
Speaker 1: But then poor poor he may have used us for
Speaker 1: that one angle and said bye bye. It's true. You
Speaker 1: never know, I know, I know, but we would have
Speaker 1: got some super heat. We would have got over there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we would have got over you did you
Speaker 1: did that one match? I'm telling you. I just wanted.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about getting over the draw money.
Speaker 1: You don't get over the first night. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of territories as heel was Butcher me go. The
Speaker 1: first week we had people throwing out of us, throwing
Speaker 1: stuff after they saw us up television. But we didn't
Speaker 1: have the heat to draw the house. You know, it
Speaker 1: takes time and met six weeks to get that with you.
Speaker 1: You and Butch, though had such everybody knew who you were,
Speaker 1: and everybody knows who you guys are coming in as heels,
Speaker 1: especially with Dudley's shirts on that Yeah, because the Dudley's
Speaker 1: were the they were like the top heels in the
Speaker 1: company at this point. So with you just wearing that shirt,
Speaker 1: you automatically had that heat siding with their sound. So
Speaker 1: you guys would have it would have been fun to
Speaker 1: see what because you didn't wrestle that match. You you
Speaker 1: drew Bubba and Devon into the ring. You guys didn't
Speaker 1: work at all and you were getting out of the building.
Speaker 1: You didn't even have to do anything. You didn't even
Speaker 1: take a bump. But you know what, you could have
Speaker 1: seen the sheepherders come back at some point. Worked out
Speaker 1: you guys could have been back to that old school
Speaker 1: sheepherder mode of the hardcore before hardcore was hardcore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we started doing those bad white cage matches and five
Speaker 1: matches and stuff like that in the early eighties. In
Speaker 1: the late seventies early eighties, we first started getting into
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, you know, chain full way chain
Speaker 1: matches and that. Right. Well, I can't believe that you're
Speaker 1: still I mean, seventy four. You look great. It's in
Speaker 1: your blood, I know, you know, being a worker. Everybody
Speaker 1: just you're always going to be a wrestler. That's that's it.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know you were as active as you are. Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. We have an appearance on June twenty sixth. So,
Speaker 1: so Luke is going to be touring with the Captain's
Speaker 1: Corner at the end of June, the weekend of the
Speaker 1: twenty six He's got a pretty pretty decent schedule on tap.
Speaker 1: He's going to be what time my Captain's Corner mate, Well,
Speaker 1: this one, this is eleven am. I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: the time you're arriving. Got eleven am on Saturday, June
Speaker 1: twenty sixth. This is that Heroes Hideouts got where heroes
Speaker 1: hideout is in Massachusetts. You're doing the Captain's Corner Happy
Speaker 1: Hour with Nick from Captain's Corner. That's on actually Friday,
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth. Those are always fun. Then we got
Speaker 1: back in the Saddle, which is June twenty seventh. That
Speaker 1: is in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Look at you. You're everywhere. And
Speaker 1: then you're also in Stockholm, New Jersey on the twenty
Speaker 1: sixth with Barret Windam. Oh, so you're your double book
Speaker 1: on the twenty sixth, Sir, you have a full schedule
Speaker 1: in June that weekend, this old guy working. I know, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're enjoying yourself, then why not. These
Speaker 1: are easy shots and you know, meeting, greet signing, I
Speaker 1: love them and taking photo ops. Do you enjoy them, Luke?
Speaker 1: Because so many people like for myself, I love doing
Speaker 1: signings and interacting with fans. But there's and I won't
Speaker 1: name names, but there's a lot of the boys who
Speaker 1: hate it and they're bored and they don't like talking
Speaker 1: to people. Do you enjoy them? To bullship them and
Speaker 1: have them on and joke with them, And I've tried
Speaker 1: to move them through fast as I can, But I
Speaker 1: try to lay able tot able to smack on each person.
Speaker 1: There you go, So you're enjoying yourself, Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: if you're not enjoying yourself. I usually picked myself up beforehand,
Speaker 1: so so ready to go, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it good and and I do too, But
Speaker 1: I I hate, you know, especially since we're being paid
Speaker 1: to be there. But so many people they just sit
Speaker 1: there and they're miserable, and I'm just like, then, why
Speaker 1: are you even doing it? Like have a good time.
Speaker 1: That's I don't understand. You know, they want to get booked,
Speaker 1: and when they get there, they just sit there and
Speaker 1: they're in on their phone. Yeah, they're on their phone.
Speaker 1: They're not paying attention. We're being paid to just hang
Speaker 1: out and meet people. It's it's such a blessing after
Speaker 1: taking bumps all your life, then you you get a
Speaker 1: reward by getting an empty pay day. That's the way
Speaker 1: I look at it anyway. But parties, you know, waiting
Speaker 1: things to pre waiting things and different parties and that
Speaker 1: that's easy. I love it. I feel like I'm robbing
Speaker 1: the people because you're not robbing the people. You don't
Speaker 1: want to see you and you just go around and
Speaker 1: wack them on the shoulder, starts with them. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. How can people get a hold of
Speaker 1: you if they want to book you for an event?
Speaker 1: If they wanted to book me for a way, it's
Speaker 1: Bushwhacker brand, Bushwhacker b U S H W H A
Speaker 1: c K E R B R A N D at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Okay, and they can hire you. And
Speaker 1: are you on Twitter? Sorry? Instagram? Twitter and Facebook? It
Speaker 1: is all bushwhack and loop. I need to go follow
Speaker 1: you on Twitter. I'm a big Twitter girl, so I
Speaker 1: need to see the trebulins. I've never been able to
Speaker 1: get into Twitter. But even if I do on Instagram,
Speaker 1: I put it through Twitter and Facebook. Okay, smart, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Instagram the young people. I
Speaker 1: want to get hooked up on Twitter, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not quick at all. That ship on Twitter so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but see Instagram. Everybody everybody tells me it's so easy.
Speaker 1: Twitter's very easy. Instagram I'm too old for because you
Speaker 1: have to like post all these sexy pictures on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I just don't have time for that. So I
Speaker 1: would I see on Instagram, my Carol, my posters, you
Speaker 1: know the shows, And I just hit two buttons and
Speaker 1: it goes to Facebook and Twitter. Well there you go.
Speaker 1: See he knows more than I do. I don't even
Speaker 1: know Instagram. I hate it. Yeah, I just don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you and it takes a while. I have any
Speaker 1: got about It takes a while to build it too.
Speaker 1: I've only got about thirty five thousand there, and and
Speaker 1: those people love you. Yeah, you know growing Twitter is
Speaker 1: easy to grow, they tell me. Twitter is easier to use,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and you don't have to post a picture,
Speaker 1: which I love. I don't want to post my pictures.
Speaker 1: But I am so happy I got to talk to
Speaker 1: you today because I haven't seen you in a really
Speaker 1: long time. And I'm hoping, you know, we do a
Speaker 1: convention and I will come and maybe I'll come up
Speaker 1: to you and lick your face next year that way too,
Speaker 1: Norm Corners, I'm gonna see a man about a dog.
Speaker 1: I'll come back in a second. Oh didn't you go
Speaker 1: see a man about a dog? Hang on, okay, my dog.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go see a man about a dog. Well, well,
Speaker 1: we'll let you go if you need to go, because
Speaker 1: we got your stuff out of the way. I'll be
Speaker 1: back in a second. I'll do this hero it was
Speaker 1: I thought he was too, But here's what I gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this while you know. We'll keep him
Speaker 1: there while we will talk about Patreon before we say goodbye.
Speaker 1: We're watching Shane Douglas versus Saboo. We may have recorded
Speaker 1: out of order today, so this is a an interesting
Speaker 1: house show match, very rowdy, quite a crowd and the
Speaker 1: queen of extreme in action for sure. During this one,
Speaker 1: I was, man, I was all over the place. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forred to that. And then we're also gonna do
Speaker 1: a think while you drink. I didn't put up a
Speaker 1: banner for it because it's not only just gonna be
Speaker 1: like a think while you drink. I have a video
Speaker 1: I want to play for you that I just saw
Speaker 1: come by my my Twitter. We're going to do this
Speaker 1: in two parts because it's going to be a long one. Yes,
Speaker 1: it'll be a longer one. So we'll get we'll get
Speaker 1: that broken up, might do different different topics to keep
Speaker 1: it fresh. Without a doubt, I'm I'm very intrigued about
Speaker 1: this dog. A dog. Yeah, I thought it was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I met a dog like a punchline, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get a doll. Yeah, I thought he was gonna
Speaker 1: tell a story about you know whatever. But I just
Speaker 1: want to say this video that I pulled up. The
Speaker 1: reason I saw it is because Kurt Angle is trending,
Speaker 1: so it looks like it's some sort of fight video.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing somebody pulls out a Kurt Angle move. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing that's why it was trending with the name Kurt
Speaker 1: Angle attached it. Fellow w W. E. Hall Famer of
Speaker 1: that's like the Randy Orton thing where everybody is getting
Speaker 1: the RHO. Yes, dog my little girl. Ow cute, it's
Speaker 1: a toy. It's she's a toy Maltese. Wow. Ah, she's
Speaker 1: so cute? Is that bushwhacker? Doggie? I used to have
Speaker 1: great Danes and New Foundlands, which are you know what
Speaker 1: a great Dane is? Ya? Now, now I've got a
Speaker 1: little sixy Lexi six pounds's Lexi? Yeah? You just carry
Speaker 1: her around everywhere? Uh, you just have to carry her
Speaker 1: around everywhere? Yeah? Yeah, she's would you bring her to
Speaker 1: the ring? The mascot crashes so cute? Well listen, Luke,
Speaker 1: good luck on all your upcoming ventures and signings, And
Speaker 1: I really hope I bump into you somewhere because you're
Speaker 1: you're delightful. Yeah, I'm heading out to Dallas in a
Speaker 1: few hours. Are you crue? It's it's the Eve Fury. Yes.
Speaker 1: If you look at the card, if you go to
Speaker 1: my Instagram and see the card, it's got Kevin Nash's load.
Speaker 1: Who are you working as long as the manager on
Speaker 1: the show. It's a televised show. Yeah, Kevin Solivan works
Speaker 1: there too, doesn't he? Okay, And who are you working
Speaker 1: with tonight? No, No, I'm not. I'm not working. I'm
Speaker 1: doing just the signing. Okay, good, good. You've got a
Speaker 1: lot of people. They've got guys, you know, they run
Speaker 1: all the time, so they've got their own click with
Speaker 1: the champions and that it's not just when they bring everyone,
Speaker 1: and they've actually got a store of storylines going sure. Sure, okay,
Speaker 1: Well that sounds like a fun appearance. Yeah it is,
Speaker 1: good guy, I know everybody, and I know the owner.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fine, you'll have a good time. Yeah. And hey,
Speaker 1: what's the name of the show. This is called Eyes
Speaker 1: up Here, Eyes up Here? Okay, eyes up here, up here?
Speaker 1: Your eyes up here. I was coming in for a
Speaker 1: boat and with them on, it had to be your
Speaker 1: eyes up here. And love love to be on your show.
Speaker 1: And that all the fans out there, Bushwacker Loup. Check
Speaker 1: me out on Instagram, Facebook, Twittershwacker Luke and Bushwacker dot
Speaker 1: com website about t shirts, photos, rings, two fifteen Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame rings, and and and and all the action figures.
Speaker 1: Check folks, love your show and I've talked. Hope to
Speaker 1: see you down the road fencing absolutely safe travel sir,
Speaker 1: Thank you on my walkabouts. I'll tell you I love you.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you. Take care. Thanks Luke.
Speaker 1: Adorable later And there's hes so cute yayble, Oh that's great.
Speaker 1: That dog put us over the top for s. That
Speaker 1: dog looks like a stuffed animal. See would you get
Speaker 1: that kind of dog? No, because you still have to
Speaker 1: walk them. And I'm in the same boat. I completely
Speaker 1: agree they're cute. If somebody else has it, If somebody
Speaker 1: else has if we can enjoy. But let's forget the dog.
Speaker 1: He is delightful. Yeah, what a personality on him. And
Speaker 1: seventy four he looks wonderful. You know, just I've really
Speaker 1: enjoyed speaking with him. It's something about that WWF wrestler
Speaker 1: from that era, from that era brings the good memories
Speaker 1: out of everybody, especially when they're like to it. Just
Speaker 1: not I'm not going to discredit anybody who's not like
Speaker 1: that from that era. But this is a guy who
Speaker 1: we saw as the lovable, lovable babyface for him how
Speaker 1: many years and to have that kind of charm still
Speaker 1: it is. It's so awesome as a fan to watch
Speaker 1: that is that is so great, all that enthusiasm. He
Speaker 1: was so adorable and you know that the backstory with
Speaker 1: e c W that that makes me so upset. That
Speaker 1: that really makes me upset because it's not the first
Speaker 1: time I heard something like that, you know, like, come on,
Speaker 1: I was there for seven years. I've heard a lot. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this though. So is that Paul
Speaker 1: putting Dreamer in the hot seat by by making him
Speaker 1: have that phone call? Yeah? I mean Tommy was Paul's
Speaker 1: right hand man, so he took care of a lot
Speaker 1: of business for Paul. So I I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just think it's pretty shitty, to tell you the truth,
Speaker 1: it could have been. Imagine that. Imagine the sheep Herders
Speaker 1: coming through E. C. W. Man telling me like I
Speaker 1: watched that match this morning, you know, and and I'm
Speaker 1: just when they came through the curtain because they had
Speaker 1: signed guy as their manager. Yeah, they had the Doubly shirts.
Speaker 1: It was automatic booze. And that's what I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell him, like, no, you don't need six weeks
Speaker 1: to escent you had the heat as soon as you
Speaker 1: came through the current. Yeah. But that's his old school though.
Speaker 1: But that's the old school, I know what I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: Like in this stay well in the nineties and that
Speaker 1: day and age, all you had to do was wear
Speaker 1: the heel shirt and boo, look at look at Rude,
Speaker 1: look at Sid, look at any of the WWF guys
Speaker 1: that normally you would think wouldn't get a big reaction
Speaker 1: because it's w W they're the they're the bad guy.
Speaker 1: We don't like them. That was instant boo. What could
Speaker 1: have been so depressing to think about it? Crazy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's he's delightful. So I'm glad we Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: glad we got Now when I see him, I might
Speaker 1: just go and lick him. I don't know, maybe, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe a rub a head rub. They
Speaker 1: also did the head rub. Oh I can do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: licking a person isn't really all right, Jenik, But well,
Speaker 1: well say goodbye then for this week. For me, it's
Speaker 1: at Chad E and B excuse me on Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 1: I'd be exclusive is my website where all my autograph
Speaker 1: signings and things of that nature are going on. Please
Speaker 1: continue to support. Also shout out to our newest Patreon
Speaker 1: member as well before you give your plugs, Daniel Sikes
Speaker 1: Daniel Sykes, who I can reveal this now. Hey, he
Speaker 1: was the first Patreon member to join after I said
Speaker 1: I'd give away that photo on the episode last week.
Speaker 1: So Daniel Sikes is going to be getting that eight
Speaker 1: x ten sim by the Queen and the franchise. I
Speaker 1: met Daniel in person, very nice, Shane and I and
Speaker 1: he is a wonderful guy and I'm so happy to
Speaker 1: have him on board. So Daniel, welcome to the party,
Speaker 1: the family, and you're going to be hearing from us
Speaker 1: real soon because he also wants to come on for
Speaker 1: an extra absolutely well, hopefully next week I'll be able
Speaker 1: to secure his time. But that's all I got, okay,
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