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I've agree with control now working audio form. 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: My favorite kind of podcasting is film via audio. If 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: you didn't know by now, my name is Chad. I'm 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: a mark apparently, and every single week I'm joined here 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: by the host, the Queen of Extreme Francine retired her 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: glitzyed shirt from last week now, and in a lot 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: of pain, I couldn't do it today. Guys, I apologize. 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: My mouth is throbbing. You're lucky I showed up. My 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: work ethic is strong. Even if I'm sick. I do 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: what I need to do. So I'm here. But I 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: would have called out today if I was able to. 39 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I almost said to you can the lovely Liz substitute 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: for me, but it was so short notice I didn't 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: think she would be able to. So I am, I'm here, 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: but I got okay. So here's the story. Hear it? 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Do we have time? We got time? So here's the story. 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Monday today is Friday. Y'all know our schedule by now. Monday. 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: I had to go to the dentist and I'm getting 46 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: braces on the twenty eighth, So I had to go 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: on Monday to get spacers put in my teeth. Now, 48 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: I looked it up online, saw what the procedure. I 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: was didn't think it was a big deal. I was like, yeah, 50 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: I could do this, no problem. Well, apparently my teeth 51 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: are all so close together. They were having trouble putting 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: the spacers in. Pushing, pushing, pushing. The assistant had to 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: call somebody else in because she couldn't get them between 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: my teeth. You know, it was just when they would 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: pop in, my gum would cut. It would cut my gum, 56 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: so my mouth is bleeding. You have to put eight 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: of them in. You got four on the top and 58 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: four on the bottom. She got six or seven of 59 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: them in, but in the back, I have two crowns 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: that are next to each other. So she called somebody in. 61 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: That lady continued to push, push, push, Now I'm laying down. Okay, 62 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm laying down like this. She pushed so hard that 63 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: the crown popped off and went down my throat. Ooh, 64 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: like literally like oh, I had to grab it before 65 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: I choked it down. And she was like, oh, what happened? 66 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: And I said, you just knocked my crown out of 67 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: my mouth. She went oh, and she walked out of 68 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: the room. No apology, no, no nothing. She just left. 69 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: So the other girl, who was very very sweet, she 70 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: apologized profusely, and I was just like, it's okay, and 71 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, it came off clean. We could just 72 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: cement it back in. They had to call my dentist in. 73 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: So my dentist walks in and she's just and now 74 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, am I paying for this? Like? Is it 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: gonna cost me another thousand dollars? What am I doing here? 76 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: She cemented it in, but they couldn't get the space 77 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: hur in. So I had seven of them in and 78 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: this one they said, you can just come back and 79 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: get it done another day. Okay, I go home. Every 80 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: single spacer pop pump pup, Oh, it's just on its 81 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: all just say. Well. I tried to eat. They told 82 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: me I can eat, they said, don't. I don't eat 83 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: sticky foods. Don't chew gum, don't eat caramel, stay away 84 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: from sweets if you can, like the sticky, laughy taffy, 85 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I came home. I think I ate. 86 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I got checks mix or something, 87 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: and I was just though, well, I tried to like 88 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: suck on it to make it a little softer, and 89 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: then you know, you nibble here and n well, everything 90 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: broke because they said you can eat anything but but 91 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: sticky stuff. I didn't know. So I call them. She says, oh, 92 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: he's at lunch. You got to call back in an hour. Fine, 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 1: call back in an hour. I said, listen, this is broke. 94 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: This one's broke. Oh you can come back. Uh, maybe 95 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: we can do it on the day that you get 96 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: your braces done. Because what I'm doing is the top 97 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: are getting braces. The bottom. I have to go back 98 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: in six months to get the braces on the bottom 99 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: because the overbite has to move back. Well, here they 100 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: all busted. So I said, they're all broken. So she said, 101 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: well then you have to go to her other office 102 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I said, fine. My mouth was full of blood. 103 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't understand what's going on. The throbbing 104 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. So Wednesday I went to this different office. 105 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: It was the lady that knocked my crown. I said, 106 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: please let it be anyone but her. There she is 107 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: standing there. So I said, oh, good morning, how are you? 108 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: And she goes, I'm fine, how are you? And I 109 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: was like, I'm good and she said so she said 110 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: what happened and I said, yeah, they knocked my crown up. 111 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: She goes, oh, that was me. And I'm waiting for 112 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: her to start. No, sorry, no, nothing, and I'm like, 113 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: what a bitch. So I just said, well, just get 114 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: them in please and get me out of here. Will 115 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: She got seven of them, and of course that one 116 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: in the back she couldn't get in. So the orthodonist 117 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: who's doing my braces, I think that's who it is. 118 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: He came in and he said, we got to put 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: a spring. I said, okay, well the spring wouldn't fit. 120 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: He had plyers he's pushing down. Did not fit. So 121 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: finally he said, we got a metal wire. I'm gonna 122 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: wrap it around, I'm gonna twist it, I'm going to 123 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: cut it. And that's going to be in your mouth, 124 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: and I said fine, so he did that. Then he 125 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: proceeded to tell me that when you got braces, like 126 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: fifty or sixty years ago, you had to have a 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: metal wire around every single tooth in your mouth. And 128 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: now I have eight spacers. I would have had to 129 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: do all thirty two teeth with this metal mine in 130 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: the day. But anyway, so I came home Wednesday. All 131 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: I've eaten is soup like butternut squash because it's very 132 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: smooth and uh smooth and shakes and that's it. And 133 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: oh and mashed up avocado like a baby baby food avocado. 134 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: And I've lost two pounds in two days. Oh so 135 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: that's the secret, huh, sony. And I'm starving and I'm mad, 136 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: and I have another what twelve eleven days, so maybe 137 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: I'll lose another eleven pounds. And you know, I'm getting 138 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm probably eating about between I would say six and 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty calories a day, which is ridiculous. 140 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm sting. I'm starving, okay, and I'm watching food vlogs 141 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: like an asshole. Okay, yeah, that's probably not good. Probably 142 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: if you have food, did you have the inclination to 143 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: maybe get some laffy taffy like they told you not 144 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: to do. Were you attempted to have some la even biting. 145 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm afraid to fight down. I'm literally sitting here with 146 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: my mouth open all day long. I'm not putting pressure 147 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: on because I think they're just rubber, like rubber bands. 148 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: If you put too much pressure, they're gonna snap, and 149 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have to go back and They're going 150 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: to do it all over again, and I'm going to 151 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: bleed again. And if they another tooth out, I might 152 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: knock the bitch out myself because I can't deal with 153 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: this anymore. You could dial into the extreme here in 154 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: the dentist office, and you know your teeth are shifting 155 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: now because the face are so it's constant throbbing. He said, 156 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: forty eight hours, you'll be fine. Well it's been forty 157 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: eight hours and I'm still in pain. And it wakes 158 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: me up in the middle of the night. That's like 159 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: boom boom. This is this feeling. Yeah, it's like the 160 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: heartbeat's terrible. It's the worst. So I'm just tired. I'm hungry. 161 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: I know it could be a lot worse, and I 162 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: know that before anybody shits on me, I understand. But 163 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: right now I am in misery because I'm just you know, 164 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: what you want to eat, and you just you're just 165 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: hungry and you just want to eat something. I just 166 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: want to eat. I'm just hungry. There's nothing that grosses 167 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: me out more than teeth. Really, I can't even with 168 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: the little girls and they're loose teeth, I can't, can't 169 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: be in the room. I don't like it. It just 170 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: makes me queasy. That sucker right out. Oh it makes 171 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: you so cool. And little Breeze got this little tooth 172 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: that's hanging on by a thread, and every time I 173 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: talk to her, she's like wiggling it. I'm like, oh, 174 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: you are a wuss. I'm like, there's an apple. Try 175 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I could work my kid? Uh, I forget which I 176 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: think it was my daughter. She bit a chicken nugget 177 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: and the tooth was in the noet. Oh oh yeah. 178 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: They made my stomach turn all that, both kids, and 179 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: they I think they both lost the tooth and they 180 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: brought stuff to the room, like the tooth fairy. It 181 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: was really cute. It's nice. I'm not even I have 182 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: legit like I had, like a wave just come over me, 183 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: like a heat waves. You are such a pussy. It's 184 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: I just don't like teeth now. But now here's the 185 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: funny part. So a movie like there's a horror movie 186 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: called The Dentist with Corbyn Burns and cor Yeah, cor 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: Corbyn b what's yeah Corbyn Burnson. I can watch that 188 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: because it's clearly fake. It's clearly you know that. You 189 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: can see the blood and bah bah and he gets 190 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: off on the blood and all that. It is terrible. 191 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Good lord. Yeah, it's weird. It's the dentist. There's a 192 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: few of them, and it's over the top like villain. 193 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: But real teeth anybody who's a tooth it is. And 194 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: now I can sit in the dentist's chair and get 195 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: my teeth worked one, no problem. I've been told my 196 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: dentist said, my parents did a good job with my 197 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: dental care. Girl me up. Anybody else's teeth problems. It 198 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: gives me such like ough, just nasty. My good friend Shannon, 199 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: who you know, is Daphne, she can't she can't be 200 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: in the same room if you're brushing your teeth. The 201 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: sound of the brushing of the teeth grosses her. Out 202 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: and one day I ran around with my tooth chasing 203 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: her and she was getting so mad. See, I gotta 204 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: have the water running because I don't like it either. 205 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't, not to that extent, but I have the 206 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: water running because I don't like the sound of it. 207 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Like just brush on too. I know exactly what she's 208 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: talking about, but I have the water running all the time. 209 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: Guys are weirdos. I don't care about the water build. 210 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Let the water build be nine thousand dollars, thousand dollars. 211 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I just don't want to hear your brush. Your deep 212 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: ain't a planned what wow? Well, yeah, that doesn't bother me. 213 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: And usually the dentist, you know, I'm pretty lackadaisil when 214 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: it comes to the dentist. I'm just like whatever, Just 215 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: do you know I had two c sections. You could 216 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: do whatever. But I had tears coming down my face. 217 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: They were pushing to freaking hard on my gum line 218 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: and then I was just bleeding and she's like, oh, 219 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: you're bleeding, and she gets a tissue and she's going 220 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: like this to my face and I'm just like, can 221 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: I just get out of here? Please, like, just go 222 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: out of here. Well, so what's the what's the update 223 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: about the braces when you'll have them twenty eighth, twenty eighth, Yeah, 224 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: because right now every single spacer is in my mouth 225 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be because I'm not eating and 226 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm not biting. So that's a much day. And then 227 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: we record on a Friday. That'll be the second. So 228 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: you'll have a nice new set of braces. Now you're 229 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna get get colors. You're gonna get like lear or 230 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: white whatever. It was five hundred dollars more, but I said, 231 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't want the metal. I want to as little 232 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: as possible, you know, I don't want it to stand 233 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb. I used to change the 234 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: colors of my rubber bands so when you smile, to 235 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: be different colors. So I didn't orange for the mets. 236 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: I also did. This is very marky, and this is 237 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: why I said you called me a mark before we 238 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: started something. I said I had blue and yellow for 239 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: the WWF at one point on my braces and people, 240 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm perfectly fine to admit it. I can't with him. 241 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Good lord, it made me who I am today. Well, yeah, 242 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: that's just wonderful. Oh yeah, So anyway, That's that's where 243 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm at. I did I say, did I tell you? 244 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: When I traveled for Boston two weeks ago, I got 245 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: a COVID test and I had my little one with me, 246 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: and I had my sunglasses on because they went so 247 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: high up my nose. I had two tears come right 248 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: down the side of my face unprompted, and I was 249 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: like just driving. She's like, are you okay? I was like, 250 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: that hurts, I'll be okay. So when when something can 251 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: plug the tear ducts from you know, it's yeah, you know, 252 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: you went deep. I tried. I was a man, I was, 253 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I was holding, but she went so far into my 254 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: brain that it popped to right out one side on 255 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: each other. I can't imagine that. That's yeah, that would hurt. 256 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Another thing I'm pissed off about is is Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, 257 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: I submitted every single thing that you are supposed to submit, 258 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and they don't even all it is. Was it came 259 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: up on my timeline, my Twitter feed, whatever it's called. 260 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: Like I was. I woke up one day and I'm 261 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: scrolling through whatever I have. You know, you push your 262 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: notifications and it just says your your Twitter verification has 263 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: been denied. I can't believe that, no explanation, know nothing. 264 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: So now I'm just at a loss for words because 265 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: everything that I submitted was what they needed. And it 266 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: just pisses me off because there's literally people like two 267 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine followers. I don't know who they are, 268 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: no offense to anybody, but they got the blue check mark. 269 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: Crazy when you got denied. I was tempted to do 270 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: it just to see if they would do it, because 271 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the status? What you have? Thirties? What 272 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: thirty six thousand followers most year? I mean, like, how 273 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: can they not see the apt mentions, the responses. It's 274 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: not like you just sit there and you promote Twitch, 275 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: you promote Patreon, or you promote the podcast. You're responding 276 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: to people, You're constantly marketing stuff. How could they not 277 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: give you the check mark? And I saw somebody else 278 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: that was like, oh, I'm so happy I got I 279 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: can't remember who it was, And I was like, that 280 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: makes they had like four thousand followers. There's a one 281 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: of the fans was telling me there's a fan, a 282 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: WWE fan that got a check mark because he's a fan. 283 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: I guess super fan. Yeah, you have to submit websites 284 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: that have your images on them that can prove who 285 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: you are. I mean, what better website to submit than 286 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: wwe It doesn't get more, you know, because I'm on 287 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: the alumni Alumni. I'm all over the videos. I submitted 288 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: that one. I submitted the pro wrestling teas to show 289 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: them that I have my own store all that stuff, 290 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: and denied that's yeah, that's and that's he like, that's 291 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: what the whole thing? What does it matter anymore? It doesn't. 292 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: But for me, it just I've had people say, you know, 293 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: you really should have a check mark, and I'm just like, 294 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: don't you think I want? I just I joined so late. 295 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I've only been on Twitter for three years. Some people 296 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: have been on for like twelve since they started. I 297 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: joined so late. So when I first joined, they weren't 298 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: taking requests anymore. They just started taking requests like a 299 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: month ago. So I submitted my info right away, and 300 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: then it took them two weeks to tell me you're denied, 301 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: and I was like, screw you. Twitter. Yeah, well, at 302 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: first when they opened it up, it was like you 303 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: had to wait to see when it hit your profile. 304 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: So I was casually going through. I saw it hit 305 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: mine so that I texted it to you too. You're like, 306 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm on it. I'm already I already submitted it when 307 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: you texted me, I already sent the stuff in and 308 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: I was just antiently waiting. So now I had one 309 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: more source, a secret source that can possibly get me 310 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: the check mark. So I'm just waiting. But I'm just 311 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, it just bothers me. It bothers me that 312 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: I did everything right and I didn't get it. Yeah, yeah, 313 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: you absolutely did. It's funny. Chris Pavone had his check 314 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: mark from when he was with WWE because he was 315 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: on Twitter back when Twitter was still giving out the 316 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: check marks. Yep. And he's got you know, one hundred 317 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: and thirty nine thousand followers from when he was in 318 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: WWE and when he was contemplating, you know, leaving wrestling 319 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: and starting his own business, he was like, well, I'm 320 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: just going to keep my Twitter because I have a 321 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: blue check mark. I have one hundred thousand plus followers. 322 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: So he's doing all his serious, you know, motivational stuff 323 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: and all his his things under Craft Daddy WWE. Okay, 324 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: and guess what if you try to change your your name, 325 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: they will take the check mark away from you. Yeah, 326 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: well right back, right back, had that done? I know, really, Kerry, 327 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: I think I think she told me her tea was 328 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: like in small case and she wanted to capitalize the T, 329 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: and she did, and they took her check mark away 330 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: from her. Sometimes that's all it takes, is yeah, because 331 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to change my handle and then I was 332 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: like no, because now it's one everything that I do 333 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: and it's just a pain in the as to go 334 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: and change twenty different things. So I'm just keeping it 335 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: the way it is. But like you said, I don't 336 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: think the check mark really matters. Everybody knows it's me, 337 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: but it just looks nice and it's just professional looking 338 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: and I just want it for whatever reason. But no, 339 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: you have to. You need it, especially for you. You're 340 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: on Patreon, you're on Twitch, you're on cameo, you're on Twitter, 341 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: you're on Instagram, you're on everything, I know, literally everything. 342 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Now you don't have your own website. I used to, 343 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: but I to, Yeah I don't anymore. You might you 344 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: know what I might suggest for you, And this could 345 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: be something too, that might be something that toggles their people. 346 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: There's a thing called link Tree. Have you ever heard 347 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: of that link Tree is. I think it's free, but 348 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: it takes all of your life and puts them in 349 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: one spot. I have it on your profile. People click 350 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: link Tree and there's all your shit right there. Gotcha? Yeah, 351 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: I did hear about it, now that you're well, it's 352 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: just I don't know. It pisses me off that people 353 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: who are not out there have a check mark and me, 354 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm busting my ass every week and I can't get 355 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: a check marks. It's just a downer, So I feel 356 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: the frustration for you. We were awaiting our guests to 357 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: join us here in a few moments, so we won't 358 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: go too into detail, but I mean there was one. 359 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: I had found this article the other day, and I 360 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: can't really pull it up in the detail that maybe 361 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: I would have if we had more time. But there 362 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: was an article about the women of Extreme Okay, and 363 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: it was a whole thing written about the history of 364 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: ECW and your history getting into the business. I found 365 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: it interesting that the article was written now Okay, because 366 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: there really hasn't been anything about that class, you know, 367 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: written on a major, major platform. But this ran down 368 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: your whole entire career, and when we have more time, 369 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: I'd love to dig into it more. But kind of 370 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this entity wrote your career trajectory. 371 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: But do you think the women of extreme don't get 372 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: enough press? And this article was nice is everybody, but 373 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: I don't think they get enough press in the mainstream 374 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: wrestling media. I mean, I guess I agree with you, 375 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, not to be trying to put myself over 376 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: or anything. But we, you know, we did a lot 377 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: back then. We did things that women, you know, I 378 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: should say, valets and managers so to speak, weren't doing, 379 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, and getting beat up by the guys and 380 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: taking finishers and all that kind of stuff. And I 381 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: think not even the women, but I think eac W 382 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: as a whole sometimes just gets pushed to the side 383 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: because more so you hear about WWF and WCW back 384 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: in the nineties and then they'll say, oh, in the 385 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: you know the little company ECW or you know the 386 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: indie company. I hate when they used to the indie company. 387 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: We weren't an indie company. An indie company back then 388 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: did not have syndicated television, weekly television, pay per views, 389 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: video games, dolls, or action figures. That's to me that 390 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: that's a major company, you know. And I feel like 391 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people used to just discredit what we 392 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: all did for the business. We always had that specific 393 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: hardcore fan base that everybody loves to talk about, and 394 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: we were underground, and you know, I just feel like 395 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: I feel like if we could have continued, we would 396 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: have been more mainstream, if we had the finances obviously 397 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: to promote ourselves more. And I'll say it again, I 398 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: believe TNN was a nail in our coffin for us. 399 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: So I just don't think it's the women in general. 400 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: I feel like the company, maybe not so much individuals, 401 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: but I feel like the company kind of gets pushed 402 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: to the side. Yeah, because we were always known as 403 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: the number three company out of the big three. They 404 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: included us in the Big three, but a lot of 405 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: people just called us this little indie fed that ran 406 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: out of a bingo hall. So it's like, oh, they 407 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: only ran every three weeks out of a bingo hall. No, 408 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: we toured, we traveled, we went places, We did a 409 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: lot of things. We were on pay per view, like, well, 410 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: what do you have to do to get respect? Yeah, 411 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: you see the watch along that we have this week. 412 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: The crowd of a house show that was ravenus could 413 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: have been a pay per view the way were reacting 414 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: the title. They what they say is the title is 415 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: Women of ECW. Their stories are more than MEETCI changing 416 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: the roles of women in wrestling and the emergence of ECW. Well, 417 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: that's nice, you know, That's that's nice to hear. And 418 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: everybody who comes up to me always says, you know, 419 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: with hell you this wanting to happen, And maybe that's true, 420 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: and maybe that's not true. 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In nineteen ninety three, while 471 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: Francy was living a pretty normal life but working in 472 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: a job she hated, selling insurance in Philadelphia. She saw 473 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: a television commercial while she was eating dinner. I'll have 474 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: to save that because our guest is now joining us. 475 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, would you like to introduce them? Oh? I 476 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: love to introduce them? Yes, please do? I mean, growing 477 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: up as a fan, how could you not love the Bushwhackers? 478 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: And joining us today is WWE Hall of Famer, the 479 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: great Bushwhacker? Luke Hi, handsome? How you doing it? I'm great? 480 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: How are you? Bloody? Love me? Tell your mother? Oh 481 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: my god, I love the boys. I can listen to 482 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: you so all day long. Let's get close quarters. Woe, 483 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: come on over. How have you been good? I've been good. 484 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: I just after a sixteen months, I'm back on the road. 485 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: You know, I just read I'm going to start with that. 486 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: I just read that you just were worked in May wrestling. 487 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Since since the fifth, the tenth of May, I've worked 488 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: four shows. What are you doing on the road? Hey? 489 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: Are you loving it? I never went all with my 490 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: premises for seven months? True? A lot of people haven't. 491 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean in a year, you know, I just go 492 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: to the gym. My family. We haven't gone out of 493 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: kneeding or anything, you know which. Anyhow, we online we're rolling. 494 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: We're going right now? Are we rocking and rolling? Well, 495 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, how do you feel 496 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: being back in the ring, Because you did retire for 497 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: a little bit and you did some autograph signings, you're 498 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: out and a belt, but now you're working again. How's 499 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: your body feeling? Good? Good? The only time I was 500 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: out of the ring was when I was booking IWA 501 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: and Puerto Rico from two oh one to two oh nine, 502 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: two o eight, I was out of the ring. But 503 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: I've been in the ring since then. So you've been 504 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: working a regular schedule up until COVID. Until COVID, Yeah, 505 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: well you know, working when working when anyone wants to 506 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: book me, that's true. Well, that's that's the not everybody 507 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: wants a dinosaur. You look wonderful this year. I'm seventy 508 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: this year, I'm seventy five years of age. God bless you. 509 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: You look wonderful as hands as ever. Let me tell you, mate, 510 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Francine, I'm like a a car on 511 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: the front of a car, like all polished. That opened 512 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: me up, and I'm an eminent side. Now you are not. 513 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: You know you won't remember this, but I I remember 514 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: this the first time I ever met you and Butch. 515 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: We were doing I don't remember where it was, but 516 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: we were doing the signing. It was I think it 517 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: was might have been before you guys came into E. 518 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: C W. We were doing the signing. It was an 519 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: outdoor signing. I was sitting at a table and you 520 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: and Butch come walking down. There were stairs behind us, 521 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: and you just came over and you both licked my face. 522 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that, And that was my first 523 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: It will never been the same since I haven't. So 524 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: you're okay, we haven't. That's hilarious. I loved it. Well, 525 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: you started wrestling in what nineteen sixty two? Yeah? What 526 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: made you want to be a wrestler? Next door? The 527 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: next door neighbor was a body builder, and then he 528 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: went to mister New Zealand and he placed second. The 529 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: judge for the show was a past mister New zealandteen 530 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty, mister New Zealand, and he said, answer the show. 531 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: And the judge said to my neighbor, he says, do 532 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: you want to make some money with that body? And 533 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: my neighbor said how. He says, we'll come into this 534 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: gym in Wellington, which is eight miles away. He said, 535 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: and you know we've got wrestling rings there. We've got 536 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: two rings there, not wrestling boxing rings. Now, this gym 537 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: was like the first Rocky movie, the steam room in 538 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: the back with the pipes, rap ring, all kettlebells lying 539 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: around the floor. There's only there's only a squat rack 540 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: and a bench bess rack. No other machines and that 541 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: was it. And then they had two boxing rings. There 542 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: are about a full off the flour. The floor was 543 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: the boxing rings. The floor was as hard as the 544 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: four you're standing on. There's four ropes twenty feet apart. 545 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: The ropes in New Zealand the commission had to be 546 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: twenty feet apart. I don't know why, but that was 547 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: the law. And you know there was always four ropes. 548 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't too It wasn't till Jim Barnett came into 549 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: New Zealand. You heard the Jim Barnett right, yeah, Jim Bynette. 550 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: He opened up Australia w CW and Australia and sixty 551 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: five and when he come out to New Zealand later 552 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: on in the sixties, we went down to a three ring, 553 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: a three rope ring, and it was it was rounds too. 554 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: The main event was eight eight minutes, and if you 555 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: didn't if you didn't do six rounds, the people wouldn't 556 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: come back. They think they were screwed, you know what 557 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean. And then the end of it, and then 558 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: the second The match before that was eight five minutes. 559 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: You know, I used to do eight five or eight 560 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: six minutes, and I had to do six. At least 561 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: I had to do thirty minutes too, good morning. There 562 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: were three minute rounds, five minute rounds, you know what 563 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean. So it stops. And then if you're getting 564 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: the heat up on a guy and it stops, and 565 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: then you had to wait. If you're a single, you 566 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: had to wait till the bell rings and dive in 567 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: and try and build a heat again. That's different. Wow. 568 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: Jim Banny came in and he made ten minute rounds 569 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: and that hence the ten minute matches. When Jim ben 570 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: bad It came to New Zealand, say seventy seventy one, 571 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: he that was ten minute match, ten minute rounds, and 572 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: then we got to twelve minute rounds, fifteen minute rounds. 573 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: So we got rid of the bloody you know, the 574 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: the you know the eight minutes and going through the 575 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: long time. He had all of a sudden went to 576 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: from from British style European wrestling to American wrestling. You know, 577 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: European wrestling, when you threw a guy down, you had 578 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: to stay with him. And you know, if you threw 579 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: him down and you let him go, you couldn't go 580 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: and touch him. You had to go with him and 581 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: you went down. I don't know whether you knew that 582 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: this is going back. Yeah, that's that's difference between European 583 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: and American. Yeah, Eddy four move where you had to 584 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: go with him if you wanted to work with him 585 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: on the map and you couldn't. You couldn't stomp or 586 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: you couldn't punch. You had to do the British upper 587 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: you do the fourm like that or the out British 588 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: upper cut and then and you do the need drop 589 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: or they drop. You couldn't kick with your foot. Huh. 590 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: You guys are shooting over there. Yeah, the pice the 591 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: police would come in the ring and stop the match, 592 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: the police with the commission. That's he that. Yeah, that's different. 593 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: Now I wasn't aware of that. That's uh. So you 594 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: go if you go eighty five minutes. That's not a Broadway, right, 595 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: that's like that's like a Broadway plus like another mile 596 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: how long? Shows? Back then it was the root that 597 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: was the European British style, you know what I mean? 598 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: So what so when when did you and and Butch 599 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: joined forces together? Sixty six? Sixty six? Okay, so you 600 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: you had started training in sixty two, so you had 601 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years under your fag Sweet William sweats 602 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: gorgeous Teddy Williams. And then I switched to sweet William. 603 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: Jim Bannet changed the name. He said, that's the gorgeous teddy. 604 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: He changes the sweet William and uh because I was 605 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: going home to Australia and working against and I was 606 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: like them too. You know. When I first started, I 607 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: was one seventy five, soaking wet, oh wow. Sixty two 608 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: and then and and then I started going to Australia 609 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: in about sixty six sixty seven. In the course, there's 610 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: spirits Arion, Maria Milana, all the and up your way, 611 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: Dominic Denucci, Killer Kowowski, Uh, Jesus tarsand Tyler, all the 612 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: all the top guys, bull Bulldog brow Brew. You know, 613 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: Bulldog brower King Curtis mark Lewin, Mik Mark Luhn was 614 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: the booker Okay Abdulla the Butcher. He had the Japanese 615 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: Fuji and Tanaka. He had the von Erics Wolder, Fritz 616 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: von Eieric. It was heavy. It went from British you know, 617 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: I went from British wrestling to heavy American wrestling with 618 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: grab a Hole and then kicked the shit out of him, 619 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: Baby a Hole. Then he'll kick the shit out of him. 620 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Because you were you worked in New Zealand, and then 621 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: you worked in Canada. For still in Australia, first for 622 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: Jim Bannett to where I learned to patch and kick, 623 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: and then the governor, and then in the late the 624 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: late sixties I worked a lot of Singapore, Bangkok around 625 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: there and now in Japan, and then seventy two seventy 626 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: two in the sixties I worked against Andre you know, 627 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: he was six seven foot four, three hundred and fifty 628 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: pounds with a big afro, which to me, worked with 629 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: him a lot in New Zealand. He never come to 630 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: North America when we went to when we first come 631 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: to North America, which was Montreal, Andrea came in six 632 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: months before us, so Killikwaski Andrea was the main baby 633 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: and Kilikowski was a main heel, and of course we 634 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: knew Killer from Australia, so we made the two top 635 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: guys in the territory. And that Grand Prix was running 636 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: three towns a night, and the Rugos were in the 637 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: same area and they were running one town to night. 638 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: That's you're you're all over the place. That's what a 639 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: history though I didn't know this history, mate, can. I 640 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: didn't know this history until later, but said that that 641 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: was in North America. That was a hotspot of wrestling 642 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: in the early seventies. Toronto Montreal was drawing the biggest 643 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: crowds regularly at that time. Of course they had the 644 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: main guys Killer Kawawski, who had sold out matters the 645 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: Square Gardens in the sixties and seventies. And they got 646 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: Andre the first time they ever, you know, Gene Freree, 647 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: not Andre, the giant Jean Free. Yeah, that's all unbelievable, 648 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: you know. I'll just say about news. Dominic Dnucci always 649 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: says about that w CW that was like the highlight 650 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: of his career was back there because he thought that 651 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: that was an unbelievable territory and the response at the 652 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: time was off the charts and that was one of 653 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: the favorite places he ever worked. Where in Australia, Yeah, yeah, 654 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: well Dominic Domic was a big run down there Italian. See, 655 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: Australia is full of a lot of people immigrated from 656 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: Italy and Greece down there, and Australia had towns prenominantly 657 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: Greek and Italian, and you know Murray and Milano and 658 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: Dominic Danucci Italian and the Spiritus Aaron. I don't know 659 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: whether you heard of him, absolutely big Greek from Hu 660 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: and then he worked for Vincinia a lot and then 661 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: he was a big baby face down there, the Greek babyface. 662 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: You are incredible. How how did you guys? Uh? Did 663 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: you get recruited to go to w W? At the time? 664 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: Stealing promoter knew the Vashon's and Morris he met them. 665 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 1: I don't know where he met them, and that maybe 666 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: in Japan. And this is not the same promoter that 667 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: got me started. Now he's been brought out by another 668 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: guy in New Zealand, and that who was an ex 669 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: detective who hated drugs, but he was a drunk He 670 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: hated drugs, but he was a drunk. He ended up 671 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: being publican. He owned hotels. Funny part of everyone he 672 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: hide was everyone he hided with big druggies and he 673 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: had and he had to let guys go in New 674 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: Zealand because the peace gave him a warning. They told him, 675 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: we know you guys are a smoke This is in 676 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies and we know you guys are 677 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: on smoking Wei because we've seen him smoking it in 678 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: the street. And that that he had to get rid 679 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: of different guys in the street. No other place to 680 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: getting back to the story, Morrison. So that's how we 681 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: got over. Morris and Butcher brought us over. They owned 682 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: They owned Grand Prix with Edward Copontier. Okay, you know 683 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: you've heard of Edward Copontier time frenchman did He did 684 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: the French broadcasting for w w E. Right, okay, so 685 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: what year did did you guys join with Vince? Vince 686 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: was ninety eight eight eight eight eight eight. Sorry, well, 687 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: let me just I'll give the backstory quickly. So I 688 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: mean Butch and Luke as the sheep herders completely. I 689 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: remember the first time I saw you guys as a 690 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: little little one. I was scared to death of you 691 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: because of the bloody matches that you guys had and 692 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: you're brawling and you're kicking ass. And then when he 693 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: gets to the ww F in nineteen eighty eight, Vince 694 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: has a different vision for you guys. You become the 695 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: Bushwhackers and then become the most lovable tag team that 696 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: they ever had. That's what I was gonna say. You 697 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: guys were the cutest, the cutest wrestlers ever like you 698 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: were just you reminded me of big Teddy Bears, you 699 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: know who the Funny pudd is. A lot of people, 700 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: a lot of people down south, they didn't realize we 701 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: were the same guys. They said, how can two guys 702 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: go from being hide Cooled before hide cool became a 703 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: name brand to comical? And that was easy. We were 704 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: you know, we were w A and we just had 705 00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: an angle with with with the guy in the wheelchair magnet. No, no, 706 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: we've just done that. Two weeks before that. I got 707 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: the call, we're working with a rock and roll express 708 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: in w A. And and we got the call and 709 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, we were wrestless in the n w A 710 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: or blood serist and kick ass ones and that. But 711 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: when we went to with WWE, you know we're old 712 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: enough to know money. Money's money, merchandise, merchandise. That's true. 713 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: You guys, those daysments made you a celebrity. But you're 714 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: so versatile that you can you can do it all 715 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: so that your phenomenal workers. You're a good baby. Actually, 716 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: about four years ago, I did some babe wire matches, 717 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus as a heel, as a heel because the 718 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: baby face I was in his hometown. And it was 719 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: hard too, because the people wanted to cheer meat and 720 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: I had to go way out to get the heat. 721 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yep, I understand. Well, I 722 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: always I started watching you guys when you were in WWF, 723 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: So when I would see the bushwhackers, I loved, like, 724 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: I just thought you guys were big teddy bears, and 725 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: I loved the gimmick because it was fun. Hey, yeah, 726 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: I went a little bush in my life. You know, 727 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: they usually told me I'm they usually kill me, I'm shaved. 728 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: That's a little bushwhacker humor, there's sure. I had a book. 729 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: I had this book. It was called The Big Book 730 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: of Pro Wrestling, and inside of it was I got 731 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: this had to be nineteen eighty seven. I mean, you 732 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: guys are just biting people, ripping the heads, blood everywhere, 733 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: all over you, all over them. And then when I 734 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: see you guys marching down the railroad track for the 735 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: first time, it was like a change in culture. But again, 736 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: what a what a lasting legacy. Now you guys are 737 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: in the w W Hall of Fame. I mean you'll 738 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: be forever ingrained in the you know, the marching and 739 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: like Francine said, you licked the side of her face. 740 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: I mean, how many people have come up to you 741 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: over the years with the same story. You know. You 742 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: know last year too, we went in the progressing Hall 743 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: of Fame. Too much deserved. Yeah, that's that's voted by 744 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: the past, the past hall of Famers. That's that Hall 745 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: of Fame. Well, may I ask you a question. I 746 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: just watched it this morning. E c W is where 747 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: I you know, That's that's what I'm know for you 748 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: guys came in for a couple of shots. How did 749 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: did Paul call you to do that? Like? How were 750 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: you contacted and what was the deal? The yes, we 751 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: would only been out of ww for about four months 752 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: or five six months. The poor calls for that and 753 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: then he's and after that, we'd like to start you, 754 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I'll call you when we need you, 755 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, in a month or two months down the road. Now, 756 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: at the time, we were hot and on the independent 757 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: circuit and we had every weekend we had three bookings. 758 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's Thursday, Friday and Saturday, or Friday and 759 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday. So we came in and worked the three 760 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: shows and they were in Florida for Paul leave and 761 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: that and that, and you know, we're straight up guys. 762 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: You know, when we tell a person we're gonna we're 763 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: gonna work for you, we don't let them down. Now, 764 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: we were on the marquees for a lot of independent 765 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: hang on and for a lot of independent workers. You know, 766 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: months ahead we got bookings, and that we told Paul, 767 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, we needed, you know, at least to give 768 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: them a month, six weeks notice, month notice long the whole. 769 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: The following Friday, he called us first thing in the morning, 770 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: he said, we need you tonight for the weekend. That 771 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: was classic Paul. Though. Now we were booked and we 772 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: were under marquis for all these independent people who were 773 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: booking us regularly, you know what I mean. I booked 774 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: us up for a year and I said to him, Paul, 775 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: I said to a holy kid, to call the guy 776 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: with a cane, who was huh Sandman, you know the 777 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,959 Speaker 1: other guy Dreamer Dreamer, Yeah and that. And I said 778 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: to Dreamer, you don't let me give them a month's 779 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: notice and that blah blah blah. So he went back 780 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: and that, and the next day I called, well, you 781 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: don't want to say you don't need us, that Paul 782 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: doesn't need you. Oh oh, Man, see that because you 783 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: came in and you did the Dudleys. The whole story storyline, 784 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: We come in the Dudleys and that, and we're going 785 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: to work with Man and his partner Y Sandman's partner 786 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: in the match I saw it was dream Dream Yeah. Yeah, 787 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: so we we weren't actually going to come in and 788 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: do a thing. And they shoot an angle with Sandman 789 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: in Dreamer. That was the whole storyline. Yeah, Because then 790 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: it was just like you were gone, and I never 791 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: knew what happened because we I mean, we've had people 792 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: coming and out, you know, like Scott Hall worked for 793 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: us for a weekend. Like people just didn't stay it 794 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: was like a revolving door. But I had heard that 795 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: we were supposed to YouTube more, but I never knew 796 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: the backstory to what what happened. Yeah, so that was it. 797 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: You know, he was going to give us a month's notice, 798 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know, coming to set receptions great, but 799 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: it was Paul. I heard that he changed the television 800 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: and he did that a lot. That's why the eared 801 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: tickets he had. I heard that people who were buying 802 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: the ear tickets and that they were banned up because 803 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: there was a lot of us a minute he had tickets, 804 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: and you know, three weeks out, after three weeks out, 805 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: the tickets triple. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, Well I I 806 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: feel bad because you guys got a great reaction, You 807 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: got a heal reaction. Yeah. But you know, there's a 808 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: few things in life where I should have said fuck 809 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: the Independence and then Paul made fuck the Independent people. 810 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: But then poor poor he may have used us for 811 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: that one angle and said bye bye. It's true. You 812 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: never know, I know, I know, but we would have 813 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: got some super heat. We would have got over there. 814 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure we would have got over you did you 815 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: did that one match? I'm telling you. I just wanted. 816 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about getting over the draw money. 817 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: You don't get over the first night. You know, a 818 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: lot of territories as heel was Butcher me go. The 819 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 1: first week we had people throwing out of us, throwing 820 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: stuff after they saw us up television. But we didn't 821 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: have the heat to draw the house. You know, it 822 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: takes time and met six weeks to get that with you. 823 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: You and Butch, though had such everybody knew who you were, 824 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: and everybody knows who you guys are coming in as heels, 825 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: especially with Dudley's shirts on that Yeah, because the Dudley's 826 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: were the they were like the top heels in the 827 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: company at this point. So with you just wearing that shirt, 828 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: you automatically had that heat siding with their sound. So 829 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: you guys would have it would have been fun to 830 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 1: see what because you didn't wrestle that match. You you 831 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: drew Bubba and Devon into the ring. You guys didn't 832 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: work at all and you were getting out of the building. 833 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: You didn't even have to do anything. You didn't even 834 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: take a bump. But you know what, you could have 835 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: seen the sheepherders come back at some point. Worked out 836 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: you guys could have been back to that old school 837 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: sheepherder mode of the hardcore before hardcore was hardcore. Yeah, 838 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: we started doing those bad white cage matches and five 839 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: matches and stuff like that in the early eighties. In 840 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: the late seventies early eighties, we first started getting into 841 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, you know, chain full way chain 842 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: matches and that. Right. Well, I can't believe that you're 843 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: still I mean, seventy four. You look great. It's in 844 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: your blood, I know, you know, being a worker. Everybody 845 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: just you're always going to be a wrestler. That's that's it. 846 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 1: But I didn't know you were as active as you are. Oh, 847 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: here we go. We have an appearance on June twenty sixth. So, 848 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: so Luke is going to be touring with the Captain's 849 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: Corner at the end of June, the weekend of the 850 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: twenty six He's got a pretty pretty decent schedule on tap. 851 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: He's going to be what time my Captain's Corner mate, Well, 852 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: this one, this is eleven am. I don't know exactly 853 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: the time you're arriving. Got eleven am on Saturday, June 854 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: twenty sixth. This is that Heroes Hideouts got where heroes 855 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: hideout is in Massachusetts. You're doing the Captain's Corner Happy 856 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: Hour with Nick from Captain's Corner. That's on actually Friday, 857 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth. Those are always fun. Then we got 858 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: back in the Saddle, which is June twenty seventh. That 859 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: is in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Look at you. You're everywhere. And 860 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: then you're also in Stockholm, New Jersey on the twenty 861 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: sixth with Barret Windam. Oh, so you're your double book 862 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: on the twenty sixth, Sir, you have a full schedule 863 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: in June that weekend, this old guy working. I know, well, 864 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, if you're enjoying yourself, then why not. These 865 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: are easy shots and you know, meeting, greet signing, I 866 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,439 Speaker 1: love them and taking photo ops. Do you enjoy them, Luke? 867 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,919 Speaker 1: Because so many people like for myself, I love doing 868 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: signings and interacting with fans. But there's and I won't 869 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: name names, but there's a lot of the boys who 870 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: hate it and they're bored and they don't like talking 871 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: to people. Do you enjoy them? To bullship them and 872 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: have them on and joke with them, And I've tried 873 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: to move them through fast as I can, But I 874 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: try to lay able tot able to smack on each person. 875 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 1: There you go, So you're enjoying yourself, Yeah, you don't 876 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: if you're not enjoying yourself. I usually picked myself up beforehand, 877 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: so so ready to go, you know what I mean. 878 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: I enjoy it good and and I do too, But 879 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: I I hate, you know, especially since we're being paid 880 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 1: to be there. But so many people they just sit 881 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: there and they're miserable, and I'm just like, then, why 882 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: are you even doing it? Like have a good time. 883 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: That's I don't understand. You know, they want to get booked, 884 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: and when they get there, they just sit there and 885 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: they're in on their phone. Yeah, they're on their phone. 886 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: They're not paying attention. We're being paid to just hang 887 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: out and meet people. It's it's such a blessing after 888 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: taking bumps all your life, then you you get a 889 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: reward by getting an empty pay day. That's the way 890 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: I look at it anyway. But parties, you know, waiting 891 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: things to pre waiting things and different parties and that 892 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 1: that's easy. I love it. I feel like I'm robbing 893 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: the people because you're not robbing the people. You don't 894 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: want to see you and you just go around and 895 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: wack them on the shoulder, starts with them. You know 896 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. How can people get a hold of 897 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 1: you if they want to book you for an event? 898 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: If they wanted to book me for a way, it's 899 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: Bushwhacker brand, Bushwhacker b U S H W H A 900 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: c K E R B R A N D at 901 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Okay, and they can hire you. And 902 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: are you on Twitter? Sorry? Instagram? Twitter and Facebook? It 903 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: is all bushwhack and loop. I need to go follow 904 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: you on Twitter. I'm a big Twitter girl, so I 905 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: need to see the trebulins. I've never been able to 906 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: get into Twitter. But even if I do on Instagram, 907 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: I put it through Twitter and Facebook. Okay, smart, Yeah, 908 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Instagram the young people. I 909 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: want to get hooked up on Twitter, but I don't know. 910 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not quick at all. That ship on Twitter so much. Yeah, 911 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: but see Instagram. Everybody everybody tells me it's so easy. 912 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: Twitter's very easy. Instagram I'm too old for because you 913 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: have to like post all these sexy pictures on Instagram 914 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: and I just don't have time for that. So I 915 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: would I see on Instagram, my Carol, my posters, you 916 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: know the shows, And I just hit two buttons and 917 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: it goes to Facebook and Twitter. Well there you go. 918 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 1: See he knows more than I do. I don't even 919 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: know Instagram. I hate it. Yeah, I just don't. Yeah, 920 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: but you and it takes a while. I have any 921 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: got about It takes a while to build it too. 922 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: I've only got about thirty five thousand there, and and 923 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: those people love you. Yeah, you know growing Twitter is 924 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: easy to grow, they tell me. Twitter is easier to use, 925 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and you don't have to post a picture, 926 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: which I love. I don't want to post my pictures. 927 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: But I am so happy I got to talk to 928 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: you today because I haven't seen you in a really 929 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: long time. And I'm hoping, you know, we do a 930 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: convention and I will come and maybe I'll come up 931 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: to you and lick your face next year that way too, 932 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 1: Norm Corners, I'm gonna see a man about a dog. 933 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: I'll come back in a second. Oh didn't you go 934 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 1: see a man about a dog? Hang on, okay, my dog. 935 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: He's gonna go see a man about a dog. Well, well, 936 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: we'll let you go if you need to go, because 937 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: we got your stuff out of the way. I'll be 938 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: back in a second. I'll do this hero it was 939 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: I thought he was too, But here's what I gonna do. 940 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this while you know. We'll keep him 941 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,280 Speaker 1: there while we will talk about Patreon before we say goodbye. 942 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: We're watching Shane Douglas versus Saboo. We may have recorded 943 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: out of order today, so this is a an interesting 944 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 1: house show match, very rowdy, quite a crowd and the 945 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: queen of extreme in action for sure. During this one, 946 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: I was, man, I was all over the place. I'm 947 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: looking forred to that. And then we're also gonna do 948 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: a think while you drink. I didn't put up a 949 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 1: banner for it because it's not only just gonna be 950 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: like a think while you drink. I have a video 951 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: I want to play for you that I just saw 952 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: come by my my Twitter. We're going to do this 953 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 1: in two parts because it's going to be a long one. Yes, 954 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 1: it'll be a longer one. So we'll get we'll get 955 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:15,839 Speaker 1: that broken up, might do different different topics to keep 956 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: it fresh. Without a doubt, I'm I'm very intrigued about 957 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: this dog. A dog. Yeah, I thought it was like, Hey, 958 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: I met a dog like a punchline, like I'm gonna 959 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,439 Speaker 1: go get a doll. Yeah, I thought he was gonna 960 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: tell a story about you know whatever. But I just 961 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: want to say this video that I pulled up. The 962 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: reason I saw it is because Kurt Angle is trending, 963 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: so it looks like it's some sort of fight video. 964 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm guessing somebody pulls out a Kurt Angle move. I'm 965 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: guessing that's why it was trending with the name Kurt 966 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: Angle attached it. Fellow w W. E. Hall Famer of 967 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: that's like the Randy Orton thing where everybody is getting 968 00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: the RHO. Yes, dog my little girl. Ow cute, it's 969 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: a toy. It's she's a toy Maltese. Wow. Ah, she's 970 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: so cute? Is that bushwhacker? Doggie? I used to have 971 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: great Danes and New Foundlands, which are you know what 972 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: a great Dane is? Ya? Now, now I've got a 973 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: little sixy Lexi six pounds's Lexi? Yeah? You just carry 974 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: her around everywhere? Uh, you just have to carry her 975 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: around everywhere? Yeah? Yeah, she's would you bring her to 976 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:43,959 Speaker 1: the ring? The mascot crashes so cute? Well listen, Luke, 977 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: good luck on all your upcoming ventures and signings, And 978 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: I really hope I bump into you somewhere because you're 979 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: you're delightful. Yeah, I'm heading out to Dallas in a 980 00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: few hours. Are you crue? It's it's the Eve Fury. Yes. 981 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: If you look at the card, if you go to 982 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: my Instagram and see the card, it's got Kevin Nash's load. 983 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: Who are you working as long as the manager on 984 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: the show. It's a televised show. Yeah, Kevin Solivan works 985 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: there too, doesn't he? Okay, And who are you working 986 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: with tonight? No, No, I'm not. I'm not working. I'm 987 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: doing just the signing. Okay, good, good. You've got a 988 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 1: lot of people. They've got guys, you know, they run 989 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: all the time, so they've got their own click with 990 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: the champions and that it's not just when they bring everyone, 991 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: and they've actually got a store of storylines going sure. Sure, okay, 992 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: Well that sounds like a fun appearance. Yeah it is, 993 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: good guy, I know everybody, and I know the owner. 994 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's fine, you'll have a good time. Yeah. And hey, 995 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: what's the name of the show. This is called Eyes 996 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: up Here, Eyes up Here? Okay, eyes up here, up here? 997 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Your eyes up here. I was coming in for a 998 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: boat and with them on, it had to be your 999 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: eyes up here. And love love to be on your show. 1000 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: And that all the fans out there, Bushwacker Loup. Check 1001 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: me out on Instagram, Facebook, Twittershwacker Luke and Bushwacker dot 1002 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 1: com website about t shirts, photos, rings, two fifteen Hall 1003 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: of Fame rings, and and and and all the action figures. 1004 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Check folks, love your show and I've talked. Hope to 1005 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: see you down the road fencing absolutely safe travel sir, 1006 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Thank you on my walkabouts. I'll tell you I love you. 1007 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you. Take care. Thanks Luke. 1008 01:00:54,360 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Adorable later And there's hes so cute yayble, Oh that's great. 1009 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: That dog put us over the top for s. That 1010 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: dog looks like a stuffed animal. See would you get 1011 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 1: that kind of dog? No, because you still have to 1012 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: walk them. And I'm in the same boat. I completely 1013 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: agree they're cute. If somebody else has it, If somebody 1014 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: else has if we can enjoy. But let's forget the dog. 1015 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: He is delightful. Yeah, what a personality on him. And 1016 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: seventy four he looks wonderful. You know, just I've really 1017 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed speaking with him. It's something about that WWF wrestler 1018 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: from that era, from that era brings the good memories 1019 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: out of everybody, especially when they're like to it. Just 1020 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: not I'm not going to discredit anybody who's not like 1021 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: that from that era. But this is a guy who 1022 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: we saw as the lovable, lovable babyface for him how 1023 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: many years and to have that kind of charm still 1024 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: it is. It's so awesome as a fan to watch 1025 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: that is that is so great, all that enthusiasm. He 1026 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: was so adorable and you know that the backstory with 1027 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: e c W that that makes me so upset. That 1028 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,919 Speaker 1: that really makes me upset because it's not the first 1029 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 1: time I heard something like that, you know, like, come on, 1030 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 1: I was there for seven years. I've heard a lot. Yeah. No, 1031 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: let me ask you this though. So is that Paul 1032 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: putting Dreamer in the hot seat by by making him 1033 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: have that phone call? Yeah? I mean Tommy was Paul's 1034 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: right hand man, so he took care of a lot 1035 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: of business for Paul. So I I don't know. I 1036 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: just think it's pretty shitty, to tell you the truth, 1037 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: it could have been. Imagine that. Imagine the sheep Herders 1038 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: coming through E. C. W. Man telling me like I 1039 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: watched that match this morning, you know, and and I'm 1040 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 1: just when they came through the curtain because they had 1041 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: signed guy as their manager. Yeah, they had the Doubly shirts. 1042 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 1: It was automatic booze. And that's what I was trying 1043 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: to tell him, like, no, you don't need six weeks 1044 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: to escent you had the heat as soon as you 1045 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: came through the current. Yeah. But that's his old school though. 1046 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 1: But that's the old school, I know what I'm just saying, 1047 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Like in this stay well in the nineties and that 1048 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: day and age, all you had to do was wear 1049 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: the heel shirt and boo, look at look at Rude, 1050 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: look at Sid, look at any of the WWF guys 1051 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: that normally you would think wouldn't get a big reaction 1052 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 1: because it's w W they're the they're the bad guy. 1053 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: We don't like them. That was instant boo. What could 1054 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: have been so depressing to think about it? Crazy? Yeah, 1055 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: but he's he's delightful. So I'm glad we Yeah, I'm 1056 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 1: glad we got Now when I see him, I might 1057 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: just go and lick him. I don't know, maybe, well, 1058 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe a rub a head rub. They 1059 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 1: also did the head rub. Oh I can do. Yeah, 1060 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: licking a person isn't really all right, Jenik, But well, 1061 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: well say goodbye then for this week. For me, it's 1062 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: at Chad E and B excuse me on Instagram and Twitter. 1063 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 1: I'd be exclusive is my website where all my autograph 1064 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: signings and things of that nature are going on. Please 1065 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: continue to support. Also shout out to our newest Patreon 1066 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: member as well before you give your plugs, Daniel Sikes 1067 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Sykes, who I can reveal this now. Hey, he 1068 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: was the first Patreon member to join after I said 1069 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: I'd give away that photo on the episode last week. 1070 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: So Daniel Sikes is going to be getting that eight 1071 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 1: x ten sim by the Queen and the franchise. I 1072 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: met Daniel in person, very nice, Shane and I and 1073 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: he is a wonderful guy and I'm so happy to 1074 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: have him on board. So Daniel, welcome to the party, 1075 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: the family, and you're going to be hearing from us 1076 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: real soon because he also wants to come on for 1077 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: an extra absolutely well, hopefully next week I'll be able 1078 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: to secure his time. But that's all I got, okay, 1079 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: and across the board from me. You can find me 1080 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: on all social media platforms at etw DTA Franci. You 1081 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: can find my twitch at www dot twitch, t dot tv, 1082 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Forward Slash, ecwdbfree Scene, and when I do cameos you 1083 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: can find the link on Twitter as well. I hope 1084 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: everybody is staying safe and healthy. And with that that 1085 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: is a wrap. Hey, it's your old buddy, the chadser 1086 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 1: from Eyes up Here with Francine, the tapt Empire and 1087 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: the brand. With a special announcement about my company, IB 1088 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Exclusives IV Exclusives is a collector based sports memorabilia company 1089 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 1: giving buyers the opportunity to get personal items signed through 1090 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,919 Speaker 1: our exclusive private autograph signing events. With over twenty years 1091 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: experience in the sports memorabilia industry, with IB Exclusives, it's 1092 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: a whole new fault creative controlled listeners. 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