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431
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Speaker 1: owned Canadian Broadcasting Corporation published a lengthy expose on her background.

432
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Speaker 1: I also read the expose because this is one of

433
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Speaker 1: these stories that I'm just like, how do you why

434
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Speaker 1: and how and how do you think you're going to

435
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: get away with this? Let's go ahead and throw that

436
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: investigation up on the screen and effectively, what happened here,

437
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: as best as we can figure out, is she originally

438
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: claimed to be part of the Mayti nation and even

439
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: convinced her sister that they had this ancestry. She brought

440
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: in someone who was an expert who gave them some

441
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: sort of lineage that persuaded the sister at least for

442
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: a time, that they did have this indigenous ancestry. But

443
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: when Collie started to get suspicious is when the sister decided, like,

444
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: I did my own research and I don't think I

445
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: can claim this anymore. That this does not seem like

446
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: it is a true reflection of, you know, where our

447
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: people ultimately came from. And then you couple that with

448
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: the fact that on top of the initial claims about

449
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: the Maiti ancestry, she started to add on other tribal

450
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: lineages that she was affiliated with. So let's take a

451
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: look at this was a TEDx talk that raised a

452
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: lot of out eyebrows at the time, where she's claiming

453
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: a lot of different ancestries that it turns out she

454
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: was not connected to at all. Let's take a look

455
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: at that. I'm bear Klan, I'm Anishabi METI from treaty

456
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Speaker 1: for a territory, and I want to acknowledge the territory

457
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: that I'm in, Treaty six, territory home to the Cree

458
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: peoples and homeland of the Mate nation. I also want

459
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Speaker 1: to acknowledge my ancestors, who are clearly here with me.

460
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: So it turns out that her people are actually like

461
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: Russian and Eastern European and Czech farmer immigrants. It is fine,

462
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: totally fine. Also that this is the other part that

463
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: to me was actually the most growth. She also invented

464
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: this whole childhood of trauma that look, I don't know

465
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Speaker 1: if she suffered some trauma or another in her life

466
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: or not, but what she said is totally inconsistent with

467
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: who her parents actually are. Apparently they were successful, well

468
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: known middle class business owners. She had a stable upbringing,

469
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: at least from the outside as far as anyone could tell,

470
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: totally opposite the childhood of trauma that she described as

471
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: rife with violence and addiction and sexual assault and poverty

472
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: and all of these things, some of them, I mean

473
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: the poverty part is provably false. The ancestry also now

474
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: provably false. But I just really don't understand, Like I mean,

475
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Speaker 1: it seems like she also started leaning more into the

476
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Speaker 1: traditional dress, which is also part of why her colleagues

477
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: were like, what are you doing here? And they found

478
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: it particularly gross too, that she invented this whole childhood

479
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: of trauma, which kind of plays into these negative stereotypes

480
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: of that community, like every Indigenous person is, like, you know,

481
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: a violent drunk or something like that, and so it's

482
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: quite incredible. Ultimately, I mean, this lady, she's just a

483
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: con artist. That's what it really looks like. She said

484
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: that her name was morning Star Bear, like that's a

485
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: veggie burger, know, it's it's real life. Okay, Look, I'm shocked.

486
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is a deep social pathology. This

487
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: is not the first time this has happened. Dolez Al

488
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: was one here in DC where I went to school. GW,

489
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: there was some professor oh really yeah, who proclaimed to

490
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: be the same thing, you know, professor of X studies.

491
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Long claim of history. Totally false. She was just white.

492
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's okay to be Russian, Czech,

493
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: or Polish. You know, there's some oppression that happened in

494
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: those communities, especially if you're Czech, Russian or whatever. They

495
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: came over here in nineteen twelve, nineteen thirteen. You could

496
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: talk about the turmoil of the czar or whatever. Be

497
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: proud of where you're from. There's nothing wrong with being

498
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: from there. I really don't know. I mean, the fact

499
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Speaker 1: that her parents were business owners and she had a

500
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: middle class childhood shows that one of the best ways

501
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: you can get ahead in current culture is to claim

502
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: trauma and to claim some sort of special status. And

503
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm not minimizing people's actual trauma, but you know, Harper's

504
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: magazine just came out with a big cover edition yesterday,

505
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: I think, called Against Trauma, and it was exactly around

506
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: how the social pathologizing of the idea of trauma entering

507
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: everybody's life has created all this like weird speak about

508
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: the way people talk about screwed up childhoods or whatever.

509
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: And I'm not minimizing it once again, but it also

510
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: claims a way to have social status. And when you

511
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: have social status, then you have freaks and narcissists like

512
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: this who glom onto it and use it and exploit

513
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: it all the way to the very top of the

514
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: of the value chain. And I mean it's repulsive how

515
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: far she actually got with this. Well, she got to

516
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: actually have the benefit of the privilege that comes with

517
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: her class status and not having that trauma. Again, I

518
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: don't know every in and out of her childhood, and

519
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: no one does to say that like there's no trauma.

520
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: But certainly the story she was she claimed is is

521
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: what she claimed is totally bs. Yes, right, So she

522
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: gets to have the benefit of that upbringing and then

523
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: gets to you, is this feigned identity to carve out

524
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: uh sort of you know, a brand for herself? Which

525
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: is it? Really? Is? It really is something? And I

526
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: have to say to you, I mean, listen, I really

527
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, buy into the notion that race is there

528
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: isn't this like hard genetic these lines. Race is social

529
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: construct and all of that. So I can theoretically imagine

530
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: a person who doesn't have like technical lineage in a

531
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: certain community but authentically is culturally part of that community,

532
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: like I can. I can imagine that set of circumstances

533
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: that is clearly not what was That's not what was

534
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: going on. In fact, I would say Rachel dolijahal without

535
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, recalling every detail and specifics of her particular case.

536
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: Like I would say she had more of an authentic

537
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: claim to she had really made efforts to, you know,

538
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: be part of the community and sort of live that

539
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: experience all of those things. Like I can imagine a

540
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: theoretical set of circumstances is where you would feel a

541
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: part of a culture that you didn't technically descend from. This,

542
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: ain't it. This person is just a con artist. Yeah,

543
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: no bottom line, this psycho and it just goes to

544
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: show you what gets reward in our society. It's this

545
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: stuff which you can get away with this stuff for

546
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, look, credit to the news.

547
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: I guess Canada's news is not as woke as our news,

548
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: so credit to them. There's no way that we've done

549
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: this here in the US. So I'm glad Elizabeth Warren

550
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Diddles she kind of closed herself. I was gonna say

551
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: she played herself. There's no way the New York Times

552
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: and all them would actually dug into happy to ask

553
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: her about it. I will always give credit to that

554
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: guy for ask I mean, here's what I would say,

555
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: like still the best that if you if you had

556
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: to pick an identity in America and presumably in Canada,

557
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: the thing that you would want is to be a

558
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: rich person, right, I mean, that's the best thing. So

559
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: she got to have the class tess. And then because

560
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: it's probably profiting off of this too, that's the other

561
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: thing in terms of or at least socially, and her

562
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: job and all that relied on this, So you know, yeah,

563
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: her job, her chosen field, this was very advantageous, one

564
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Anyway, these people of psycho hard to understand.

565
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: How do you not think you're going to get caught?

566
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: And her whole fan and by the way, her whole family.

567
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: They wouldn't say much on the record, but they said

568
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: enough to be like this is bullshit and we want

569
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, including the sister and the parents. Well,

570
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, I hope somebody who's actually what do they

571
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: call them in Canada, It's not Native, it's a first

572
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, right, So I hope somebody who is actually

573
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: first nation gets this post. There actually are a lot

574
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: of problems or first nation and Native also here, massive discrimination, poverty,

575
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, the way these people have been treated terrible.

576
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: They have some great traditions and more. Actually read a

577
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: book recently about people native communities in Alaska who have

578
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: some overlap and share with people in Canada as well

579
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: about Eskimo. I forget what this thing it's called My

580
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: Life with the Eskimo is, but a Norwegian American explorer

581
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: who went to Upper Canada and nine times fascinating stuff. Okay,

582
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: like real you could like, you know, my parents are

583
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: from India. I have a reverence for those type of cultures,

584
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: their traditions and more. And so to have people appropriate

585
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: that like literally, this is one of those real cases

586
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: where this is happening. It's disgusting. Yes, I don't know

587
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: what's say? Agreed? Right, all right, guys, enjoy your day

588
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: well more U lator. Some really interesting new data, frankly

589
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: troubling data from apartment guide dot com. They put out

590
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: their monthly rent report and some pretty stunning numbers about

591
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: just how much rents have spiked across the country. Let's

592
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: go ahead and throw this map up to start with.

593
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: So what you see here is the increase in rent

594
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: of one bedroom apartments in states across the country. Every

595
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: single state has seen an increase, and you can see

596
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: where some of the top states are they're kind of

597
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: scattered all over. But as we Blahoma, Yeah, as we

598
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: dig into the daddy see Louisiana, you see Florida, you

599
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: see Oregon. As we dig into the data, you'll see

600
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: some of the cities that have had the highest spikes.

601
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: A lot of them are in warm weather places, which

602
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: makes sense. A lot of them also in place cities

603
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: that are relatively small, so three hundred thousand people or less.

604
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: But just to give you the top line numbers, So

605
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: overall one bedrooms, year over year, price has increased close

606
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: to twenty percent, nineteen point eight percent in one year.

607
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: Two bedrooms, the picture is not much better. Price has

608
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: increased year over year by seventeen point three percent. Just

609
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: give you a little bit more data. Here are the

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00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: top ten cities in terms of amount of increase. Those

611
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: the numbers at the top. You see Gilbert, Arizona, Long Beach, California, Riverside, California, Orlando, Florida.

612
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Get a lot of places that are warm Birmingham, Alabama. St. Petersburg, Florida,

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00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Huntington Beach, California, Boise, Idaho. That's one I'd been hearing about. Scottsdale, Arizona,

614
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: and Irvine, California. And finally, for the two bedroom biggest increase,

615
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: you see places like again Or Florida, Saint Petersburg, Florida, Jacksonville, Arlington, Texas, Tucson, Arizona, Garland, Texas, Reno, Nevada,

616
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, Indiana, Random, New York, New York different than

617
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: what you might have heard on the right, and Albuquerque,

618
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: New Mexico. So a couple things that I took note

619
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: of here. First of all, you see the movement to

620
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: warm weather places and driving up rent prices. You see obviously,

621
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: you know the pandemic abating and rent prices skyrocketing now

622
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: that people can actually potentially have a job and pay,

623
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: And it does defy some of the narratives out there.

624
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the places that saw huge

625
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: rent increases were actually in California, where the narrative has been,

626
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: oh California's over, Oh New York's over, and everybody's going

627
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: to Texas at least from this rent price data that

628
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily doesn't necessarily reflect that. And then the most

629
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: important piece here is, like you know, when you see

630
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: rent prices going up there much, this is a massive

631
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: hit and people's wallet it makes it so hard for

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00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: them to be able to afford the other necessities of

633
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: life in addition to just housing. I mean, housing price

634
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: goes up by twenty percent, and then your food cost

635
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: goes up by like what forty percent? I mean, it's

636
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: a total disaster. Those are the absolute basis. In a

637
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: single year, you're getting nuked. And for a lot of

638
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: people who are on month are year over year leases.

639
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: If you re signed and are up for resigning in

640
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, you probably did see a significant increase.

641
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends who this happened to.

642
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: It took advantage of COVID deals and now are you know,

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Speaker 1: are looming and seeing like, oh, you know, are we

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Speaker 1: going to be able to resign this apartment or not.

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Speaker 1: It's really becoming a problem. And they really point to

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Speaker 1: this fact. Rent inflation is here. Until twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: While the pandemics saw a drastic decrease in rent, the

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Speaker 1: trend quickly reversed as both renters new and old, returned

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Speaker 1: to cities. As the report shows, you're over your rent

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Speaker 1: price up by double digit nationwide, a trend that is

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Speaker 1: likely to continue. And the other thing that they point, oh,

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Speaker 1: highest increase in more than thirty years. But what they

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Speaker 1: really this captures is internal migration within states and all

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Speaker 1: over the country. Yeah, that's the totally nuts part. So

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Speaker 1: even within California, people said, Okay, I'm going to the

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Speaker 1: hotter parts of California, I'm going to the nicer parts

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Speaker 1: because I'm working from home or I have the ability

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Speaker 1: that creates this competition over scarce resources, which drives the

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Speaker 1: price up. Boise, Idaho, from what I heard, was the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, Californians who wanted to pay lower taxes

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Speaker 1: still be on the West Coast time zone, be only

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Speaker 1: like an hour long flight or whatever away from San Francisco. Boom,

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Speaker 1: they're moving to Boise. Same with Arizona, Scottsdale, Arizona. I'd

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Speaker 1: heard a lot of Californias want to be able on

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Speaker 1: that time zone or within an hour of the time

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Speaker 1: zone quick flight from home. Texas obviously was a longtime story,

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Speaker 1: but it's not just Austin. There's a lot of others.

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Speaker 1: And so that huge internal migration to Georgia, to Florida,

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Speaker 1: to Texas, across the entire Sun Belt throughout the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: As Derek Thompson said on our show if just ten

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Speaker 1: percent of the white collar workforce moves, that is the

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Speaker 1: largest internal migration in the United States since World War Two,

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Speaker 1: end population redistribution. I think the whole country changed during COVID.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a totally it's like an almost

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Speaker 1: unnuanced point to make at this point, but it's true.

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Speaker 1: It's just like we had a huge, massive change and

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Speaker 1: that's disrupting everything. It's reshaped the workplace, it's reshaped, the

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Speaker 1: electoral of it is reshaped. I mean the geography and

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Speaker 1: the landscape of where people are moving to, seeming to

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Speaker 1: seek out these smaller cities which may be you know,

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Speaker 1: overall less expensive, even as the rents are apparently skyrocketing

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Speaker 1: to match some of the larger cities. And then also

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Speaker 1: part of why there's a big jump year over years

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Speaker 1: because a lot of places, New York City I know

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Speaker 1: being one of them, saw a big decrease in rent

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Speaker 1: during the pandemic, and so now things are coming back

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Speaker 1: and you're seeing you know, rents increasing beyond even where

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Speaker 1: they were before the pandemic, as people are having to

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Speaker 1: go back in some ways to work. Certainly people who

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Speaker 1: you know work service sector jobs, and those sorts of

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Speaker 1: things have to be back in the city or town,

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Speaker 1: back you know, in the workplace. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: the internal migration, as you point out, has to do

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Speaker 1: with white collar workers, who many of whom told their

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Speaker 1: employers like, I'm not coming back. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 1: them are like, screw you, I'm not and if you

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Speaker 1: are going to make me, then I'm going to find

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Speaker 1: another job. And because of the tight labor market, many

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Speaker 1: have been able to do that. So just another little

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Speaker 1: indicator number one of how everything getting so much more

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Speaker 1: expensive and easy, so that even the wage increases that

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Speaker 1: we have seen are being eaten into by the increased

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Speaker 1: cost of essential goods like food and gas and housing.

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Speaker 1: But also just the way that COVID has totally remade

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Speaker 1: and reshaped our lands, even ways that we're only beginning

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Speaker 1: to wrap our heads around completely. Career. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the day. We're gonna have more for you later.

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Speaker 1: Chris Christy has been on a book tour. We even

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Speaker 1: covered it here on the show. He's been trying to

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Speaker 1: hawk his book called Republican Rescue. He's painting himself, setting

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Speaker 1: himself up to run against Trump even if Trump does

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Speaker 1: run again. He says, we cannot be clinging to stop

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Speaker 1: the steal. All I completely agree with, But what did

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Speaker 1: I tell you here on the show. If that's your position,

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Speaker 1: then you ain't gonna be working in the current Republican party.

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Speaker 1: And we have this hilarious piece that we can share

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Speaker 1: with all of you. Let's put it up there on

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Speaker 1: the screen. Eric Boehler, Look, Eric Bowler is extremely cringe

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Speaker 1: in one of those resistance Democrats. But the guy's got

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Speaker 1: some reporting, and we're gonna give credit where due. A

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Speaker 1: senior publishing source with access to industries book Scan tells

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Speaker 1: me Republican Rescue sold just two thousand, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty nine copies during its first week in stores, which

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Speaker 1: constitutes a colossal publishing flop that is a total disaster.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Republican Rescue was ranked fifteen thousand, five hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty fifth on the Amazon Kindle Store. So he's

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Speaker 1: only going to be one hundred digital copies about two

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Speaker 1: thousand copies of his book. Look, guys, like, just to

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Speaker 1: give you an example, a best just to hit the

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Speaker 1: best seller list, you only had to sell five to

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Speaker 1: ten thousand books. It's not actually that hard. So he's

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Speaker 1: not kracking any bestseller list. This is a total and

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Speaker 1: complete flop, and it just goes to show you the

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Speaker 1: appetite for what Chris Christy is selling is not there whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of insane. And he details. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy was every he did every major show, making

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Speaker 1: the rounds. He was on this Week, he was on

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Speaker 1: the View, he was on Fox and Friends, he was

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Speaker 1: on Fox News, he was on Fox Business, he was

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Speaker 1: on the Daily Show, he was on HBO twice, he

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Speaker 1: was on CNBC. And so there's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: here because, first of all, it reveals none of those

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Speaker 1: places have any sway with their audience. And we actually

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Speaker 1: saw that when we were doing did a lot better

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Speaker 1: than Chris Christies and was published by really small imprint,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Grimm's Publishing mails published it, and you know, we

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Speaker 1: got it out depressed really quickly, and all of those things.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have nearly this media lineup, but we did

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Speaker 1: a couple of cable news appearances and nothing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are very few, very few hosts and programs where

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Speaker 1: you actually see people watch you on there and then

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Speaker 1: actually go out and buy books. And apparently none of

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Speaker 1: these places on this list make the cut whatsoever. So

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Speaker 1: it shows you how little sway they have with their audience.

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Speaker 1: Number one, number two. It shows you that there was

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Speaker 1: not only was there not Republican interest in Chris Christi,

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Speaker 1: there's also not liberal interesting Christi. It was a totally

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00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: complete misreading of the audience to think that they cared

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Speaker 1: what this man had to say at all. Because if

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Speaker 1: you're a liberal, like the guy who wrote this post,

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Speaker 1: Eric Bullert, what you see, rightfully so is someone who

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Speaker 1: stood by Trump all the way to the very end,

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Speaker 1: you know, and was there helping him with debate prep

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Speaker 1: and whatever. So you kind of look at this and go,

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Speaker 1: who is this guy to now come and pretend like

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Speaker 1: he's some hero. Liberals weren't buying it either, And then

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Speaker 1: I think, especially because Christy, if he was really trying

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Speaker 1: to sell books, the way to do it would have

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Speaker 1: been to lean into like an anti Trump, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the only title, and have some juicy tello because

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Speaker 1: some of those books from within the White House whatever

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Speaker 1: have done well. Like in the same week they point

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Speaker 1: out that Jonathan Carl's new book Betrayal, The Final Act

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Speaker 1: of the Trump Show sold twenty four thousand hard cover copies,

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Speaker 1: which is a lot. So you know, if he was

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00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: really trying to sell books, he should have went with

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Speaker 1: some life blatantly anti Trump thing. And the fact of

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00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: the matter is that he may as well have done

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00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: that because he's nuked himself with Trump and with the

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Speaker 1: Trump base and whatever anyway to prop up a book

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00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: that ultimately people are not interested in reading because they

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00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: don't believe Chris Christy has any real answers to offer

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Speaker 1: about the future of the Republican Party. Unfortunately, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. There you all right? All right, guys,

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00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: enjoy your day. We lot more for you later. Actor

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Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin has just given his first interview I think

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Speaker 1: since that horrific tragedy occurred on set with accidental shooting

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Speaker 1: of a popular cinematographer, he drops. He says something pretty

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Speaker 1: interesting about how this ultimately went down. At least according

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Speaker 1: to him, Let's take a lesson. She was someone who

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Speaker 1: was loved by everyone who worked with, and liked by

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Speaker 1: everyone who worked with and admired Even now, I find

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00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: it hard to believe that it. It doesn't seem real

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Speaker 1: to me. You haven't said much in public since that

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Speaker 1: tragic accident. Why speak out now? I think the big

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Speaker 1: question and the one you must have asked yourself a

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00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: thousand times, how could this have happened? You've described it

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Speaker 1: as the one natrillion shot, and the gun was in

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Speaker 1: your hand. How do you come to terms with that?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't in the script for the trigger to be pulled. Well,

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Speaker 1: the trigger wasn't pulled. I didn't pull the trigger, So

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00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: you never pulled the trigger? No, no, no, no. I

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00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: would never point a gun to pull a trigger at them. Never.

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Speaker 1: What did you think happened? How did a real bullet

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Speaker 1: get out of it? Said? I have no idea. Someone

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Speaker 1: put a live bullet in a gun, a bullet that

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00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: wasn't even supposed to be on the property. How do

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00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: you respond to actors like George Clooney You say that

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Speaker 1: every time they were handed a gun, they checked it themselves.

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Speaker 1: Your emotions are so clearly, so right there on the surface.

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Speaker 1: You felt shock, you felt anger, you felt sadness. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel guilt? You said, you're not a victim, But

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Speaker 1: is this the worst thing that's ever happened to Yes? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I think back and I think of what could

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Speaker 1: I have done? Alec Baldwin unscripted the news making special

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Speaker 1: event tomorrow night at eight seventh Central on ABC and

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Speaker 1: stream on Hulu. So that's the problem for it. So

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing there, obviously is he says he did

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Speaker 1: not pull the trigger very emphatically, right, which you know.

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Speaker 1: I grew up with firearms around, learned to shoot when

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Speaker 1: I was young, and all that stuff. But I am,

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Speaker 1: by no means a weapons expert. So when I initially

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Speaker 1: heard that, I thought, there's no like I mean, I

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Speaker 1: personally thought it was lying. You have to put trigger right,

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Speaker 1: That's how that works. But I will say that I

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Speaker 1: asked my dad, who is very into guns. This is

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Speaker 1: his hobby and his passion for many years. He also

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Speaker 1: is very interested in the engineering and the mechanics of it, etc.

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Speaker 1: And so I said, what people think The gun that

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Speaker 1: was used here was a cult single action? And I said,

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Speaker 1: is this possible at all? Let me read you his text.

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Speaker 1: He says, a single action means it has to be

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Speaker 1: cocked manually by pulling the hammer back. If that has

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Speaker 1: been done, then normally a light pull on the trigger

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Speaker 1: could set it off, whether by a trigger finger or

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Speaker 1: something else catching the trigger. However, for some older type revolvers,

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Speaker 1: it is considered dangerous to have a cartridge in the

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Speaker 1: cylinder where the hammer rests, because it is possible for

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Speaker 1: a bump against something to cause the gun to fire.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of this before, but under this condition,

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Speaker 1: it is possible that the gun went out off without

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Speaker 1: the trigger being pulled. Most modern revolvers are designed so

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Speaker 1: that can't happen, but there are still many revolvers around

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Speaker 1: where it could, so it is possible. Baldwood may be

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Speaker 1: telling the So that's per my dad. Yeah, well, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting because what George Clooney brought up

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Speaker 1: or sorry, what George chef Nam was brought up there

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Speaker 1: about George Clooney is arguably more important to me than

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Speaker 1: all of the semantics. What Clooney actually had read this interview.

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Speaker 1: So what he points to is that he was like,

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Speaker 1: all of this stuff they're saying is completely crazy. So

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Speaker 1: he was like, I've never heard the term cold gun.

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Speaker 1: He goes, I've never heard of a lot of these

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Speaker 1: so called safety practices that they're doing there. He said

855
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Speaker 1: that it's very clear that a lot of the stuff

856
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Speaker 1: that they were doing on the set was made up

857
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Speaker 1: and was terrible in terms of standard safety procedure. Even

858
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Speaker 1: more further, he says, quote, every single time I'm handed

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Speaker 1: a gun on set, every time they hand me a gun,

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00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: I look at it, I open it, I show it

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Speaker 1: to the person I'm pointing it to, we show it

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Speaker 1: to the crew. Quote. Everyone does it, and everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Alec did that. Hopefully he did, although initial police

864
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Speaker 1: reports suggests that he relied on the cold gun call

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Speaker 1: from his crew. So what we're pointing to there is

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Speaker 1: that Clooney and many other high level actors had said

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Speaker 1: in the past that they have much more stringent safety

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Speaker 1: procedures on their end and also in terms of how

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Speaker 1: they interact with the other. Thing is Alec Baldwin says,

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Speaker 1: I did not pull the trigger, but as look, once again,

871
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Speaker 1: I did not grow up around guns. I've spent a

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Speaker 1: very extremely I think I've been to a range like

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Speaker 1: four times. Even I know you don't put the finger

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Speaker 1: on the trigger unless you're intent on pulling it and

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Speaker 1: you're pointing it at somebody that it's you know, in

876
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Speaker 1: a very very dire situation, and otherwise you should have

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Speaker 1: your finger off the trigger in order to avoid even

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Speaker 1: that slight bump that your dad talked about it. So

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Speaker 1: maybe Alec Baldwin, who I assume does not even know

880
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Speaker 1: that much about guns, maybe he put his finger on

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Speaker 1: the trigger but did not pull the trigger. But even

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Speaker 1: that slight amount of pressure in an older type of

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00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: gun could have led to the I don't think the

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Speaker 1: term that you use, the term accident discharge or whatever. Look,

885
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Speaker 1: all of it is speculation. It's pretty interesting that he's

886
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Speaker 1: saying that he didn't pull it, but like I said,

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Speaker 1: it seems to be an amalgamation of like terrible safety

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Speaker 1: practice in the first place, live gunl bullet Now i'veamo

889
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Speaker 1: never should have been on the set period, inexperienced safety procedure,

890
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Speaker 1: other people in Hollywood calling him out hardcore being like sorry, man,

891
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Speaker 1: like you did not follow the stuff that we've all

892
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Speaker 1: been doing for years. And we also know that a

893
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Speaker 1: lot of members of the crew were very unhappy, unhappy

894
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Speaker 1: with the safety conditions, safety conditions and the work conditions,

895
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: and several had just resigned in protest over some of

896
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: the work conditions. And the armor who was supposed to

897
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: be overseeing the safety protocols was very new. This was

898
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: only her I think second movie that she had served

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Speaker 1: in that capacity, and some of the things that they

900
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 1: had said too, like it never should have even been

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00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: that producer who was handing a gun off. It should

902
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: have been the armor. So even some things that have

903
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: come out have been real red flags to people. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: there were a million mistakes that were made along the

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Speaker 1: way here to get to the point where it's even

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Speaker 1: relevant whether or not Alec Baldwin ultimately pulled the trigger

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Speaker 1: or bumped the trigger or something happened, because all along

908
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Speaker 1: the way there never should have even been live ammo

909
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Speaker 1: on that set at all. How does that even happen?

910
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Speaker 1: Is still a question that no one knows the answer

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Speaker 1: to it, at least not publicly. Still still waiting to

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Speaker 1: hear on that one. All right, So we'll watch that interview,

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Speaker 1: see if there are any other nuggets for you. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, guys, enjoy your day. We'll have more content

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Speaker 1: for you later. Hey, guys, thanks so much for watching.

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Speaker 1: you to the mainstream media.