WEBVTT - "Ladies, seamen, 12 o’clock!" with Mark Decklin... (S5 E1 "Anchors Away") 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte? Welcome back, everybody to Are You a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 1>Part two? This is Mark Decklin. Everybody, He's great. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go over our details. Now we're doing Anchors Away, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a very big episode. It was it's episode the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the fifth season. It's directed by Charles McDougall,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my all time favorite directors, written by Michael Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is when we had Daniel sin Chada, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'd forgotten about, but he is so great and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you this was like the beginning of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, we were both just like young New York

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<v Speaker 2>actors who were just like we were excited. We're like, yay,

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<v Speaker 2>we get to be guest stars on this hit show.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice yeah, nice? Nice. So we okay, do you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the episode? Can you talk to me about Carrie?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Carrie?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yea yeah, what do you mean can I talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering as a straight guy, I love to

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<v Speaker 1>have straight guys on the recap because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know your thoughts and feelings about like, for instance, Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>has this whole great love theory, right, that comes out

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<v Speaker 1>in the coffee shop. It's you know, classic classic are

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<v Speaker 1>show's writing like the you know, the big ideas come

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<v Speaker 1>out and then Carrie eventually is going to go home

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, write about them and wonder in her

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<v Speaker 1>way that she does. But I'd love to hear men's

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<v Speaker 1>point of view about the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're asking my point of view about is there

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<v Speaker 2>one great love? No, I think, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect there are limited great loves me too in

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<v Speaker 2>our life. Yes, I don't think the possibilities are infinite.

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<v Speaker 1>Me me as well. Yes, agree totally.

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<v Speaker 2>When you find that great love, you should cherish.

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<v Speaker 1>It, but definitely, But I don't can't one, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think there's sometimes people might find a great love

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<v Speaker 1>and then not be able to like fully be.

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<v Speaker 2>There because we're human. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>know I can look back I you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately I got married and had kids and I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>happy and it's wonderful. But you know, I have girlfriends

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<v Speaker 2>I can look back on and say she could have

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<v Speaker 2>been like that could have gone somewhere, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't ready, or maybe she wasn't ready. More often

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<v Speaker 2>than not, it was probably me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I have the same absolutely, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also feel like there were times when everyone thought like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that person no, no, no, could have been that that

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<v Speaker 1>was like the person you should have tried to be with. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like it also could be no.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there are more nos than yesterday. Totally auditioning, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's way more nose than yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, definitely, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I look back and I'm not going to go into stories,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, there were women I dated where I was

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<v Speaker 2>like on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>She was perfect, there was nothing wrong with her.

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<v Speaker 2>On like if I got the idea of dating. Now, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been married for twenty years, so the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>dating is horrific to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm single, and the idea of dating is

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<v Speaker 1>also you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, but I get the notion of like this electronic dating,

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<v Speaker 2>which I've never done, but the idea of like swiping

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<v Speaker 2>and get seeing in advance. Oh we have this and

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<v Speaker 2>this is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. It's not accurate, but.

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<v Speaker 2>On right, well, a lot of people lie. But also

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<v Speaker 2>someone can be perfect on paper, but it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely, I mean, it is a crazy time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But what I love and this is the thing when

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<v Speaker 1>I rewatch our show from this perspective of now, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about dating and relationships, like there is just

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<v Speaker 1>endless It is endlessly fascinating. Like I mean, I love

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<v Speaker 1>our show, and there's so many things I love about

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<v Speaker 1>our show. The friendship's absolutely the voiceover, the you know who,

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<v Speaker 1>the shoes, but the shoes, no, see the shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to disagree because this is what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. The fashion was always next level and that

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<v Speaker 1>was on purpose, right, Like Pat was brought in by

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<v Speaker 1>Sara Jessica because Sir Jessica didn't want it to be

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<v Speaker 1>like regular TV fashion, which was not really fashion, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they did elevate to a really intense level. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I remember happening probably somewhat around this time that

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching, right, fifth season six season the end, it

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<v Speaker 1>became louder in a way than the writing. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was wrong, right, Like you wouldn't care

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<v Speaker 1>if we were just like walking across the screen saying

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<v Speaker 1>uninteresting words. You wouldn't care about the shoes. We weren't

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<v Speaker 1>there to sell shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is human nature, right, Things get molified.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things people liked was, oh, look

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<v Speaker 2>at the fashion. I would say, I hate to stereotype,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would say women and gay men more than

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<v Speaker 2>straight men. But there was but we all recognized that

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a high fashion show, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>there were people who did latch onto that, and.

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<v Speaker 1>There were definitely oh it's not a debate, absolutely, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to do? Absolutely? I think the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that was hard for me was that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>moment in time where it seemed like that was our

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<v Speaker 1>purpose kind of right, and that was never our purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, Like we could have just done a photo

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<v Speaker 1>shoot or something. I don't know, you do, known't what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It just seemed like like, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a misrepresentation of what we were about, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but aren't we always subject to that?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so in capitalism, yeah, you know, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we live in capitalism, that's for sure. So it did

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<v Speaker 1>like take on a really weird kind of other life. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of around this time for sure. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>we were there for product placement. No, we were just

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<v Speaker 1>wearing all the things that seemed like what Carrie would

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<v Speaker 1>be wearing, and Charlotte everybody else obviously like no one

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<v Speaker 1>Manolo never paid us. You don't what I'm trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Choe never paid us, but it seemed like they had,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it got so loud, but then it seemed just weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember just feeling like woul everyone stopped talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the damn shoes, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>would you care about the shoes if we weren't saying

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<v Speaker 1>something interesting? I don't think so, you know it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other day, yeah, because I remember there was a shot

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<v Speaker 2>I think in this episode, and we had the shot

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like, you know, somebody's beautiful lubatons or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever in a puddle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And someone was just telling me the other day,

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<v Speaker 2>you know why high heels were invented?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Because of puddles? Because of sewage in the streets. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>So the rich people sort of element.

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<v Speaker 1>That is funny. I did not know that. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>See that kind of brings it all back in a

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<v Speaker 1>historical setting. I like that very much. Okay, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Gary because this what's interesting to me is that

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of those episodes where Big and Aiden

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<v Speaker 1>are not there, right, and for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me we talked about there but.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely but meaning they're not they're not like she's not

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<v Speaker 1>with either of them. That's my point. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to watch how many times because now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rewatching, I didn't really remember this so much, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how many times she's single again? And they have to

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<v Speaker 1>go back there and make it like interesting and connected

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that women's lives, like like we're going

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<v Speaker 1>through different things, we're going through different things, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're single again, and what do we do with that? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I love when they do that. It's interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>how has she grown? How is she not grown? Because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Carrie's not a perfect character. Thank God. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there are people out there who hate her. My Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>shows me every day, but I love her very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I hate an envy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hate an envy. Do feed the algorithm in?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Yes? Oh it's disgusting. Yes. As the dad of

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<v Speaker 2>a daughter, I'm like, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to navigate for the children, for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>luckily most of our listeners are not children, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to worry about that. Exactly, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it is really interesting the negative. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>important to remember is that there's positive out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>the algorithm isn't grabbing onto it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not clickbait.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not clickbait, right, But we can create our

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<v Speaker 1>own positive, right, like we live dystopia, absolutely absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're doing here. We we don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>dig into the negative here. And are you a Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>because why why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's enough of it. There's enough of that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not that we're Pollyanna, right, it's not. You're not.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not naive. No, you know, the world can be shy.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but like why.

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<v Speaker 2>Wallow in that?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I don't want to wallow in it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not interested in that part I I I. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, we're back to our show. Our show is interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like she carries out in the rain

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<v Speaker 1>and she gets trapped with this guy, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>she rambles about how if they were in a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>they would fall in love and get married. So true, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so true? And I think this is also what I

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<v Speaker 1>think is interesting, is the show goes on. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see Michael writing into it criticisms of our show, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like there were people at this point going like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the real New York, right, Like you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, like sanitized, glamorized rendition. So he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talking about that in a way. Carrie's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that because Carrie's a writer and she's always thinking about things.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes perfect sense. She's going awareness exactly and like

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<v Speaker 1>layers like it's very meta, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're in he shows and she's saying, if

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<v Speaker 1>this were a movie, which people are claiming we're what

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<v Speaker 1>we're like right, that we're fake, right ish whatever, glamorized.

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<v Speaker 2>She could say, if this and the scene we would

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<v Speaker 2>fall in love.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that would be weird. But he comes as close

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<v Speaker 1>as he can without breaking the fourth wall because at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, you know, Michael had been one of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who really wanted to stop talking to the camera,

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<v Speaker 1>which he has talked about, yeah, because because it breaks

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth wall in a way that then distracts you

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<v Speaker 1>from the actual stories. You know that he wanted you

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the stories with us, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's absolutely right and succeeded. So this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>walks close to breaking that wall but doesn't. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just so great, right and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>the guy of course is like, you're crazy, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's also raining, but she's still her glamourself, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. She's running through the rain and doing

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<v Speaker 1>all of her cute carry things, but it is raining.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love that, you know. I love how it looks.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the it's a little dirty, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is totally New York, especially back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I always looked like like the first snowfall and

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<v Speaker 2>Manhattan is the most magical thing and it's it's magic.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and by the next day it's horrible great exactly, yeah, yep, yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so true, so true. And also it was probably really cold,

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<v Speaker 1>though maybe it was hot, as you say, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think I was just sweat.

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<v Speaker 1>You were. You were in a situation which is very

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<v Speaker 1>cool to think about, I mean, not cool to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in col I mean it's funny in retrospect, it's funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was not funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So then she's waiting for a taxi. I also

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<v Speaker 1>love like the taxi. I feel like the taxi life

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<v Speaker 1>gets like more so as time goes on, and then

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the sixth season, she's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get a cap, she can't get a cap, she gets

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<v Speaker 1>a capt she gets stuck in traffic, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>gets out and gets on the subway. I love all that,

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<v Speaker 1>like putting the the New York in like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and also because we are so kind

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<v Speaker 1>of beautifully dressed that but that is the way you

0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.720
<v Speaker 1>can be beautifully dressed in New York. Things can still

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<v Speaker 1>not go your way, absolutely, and you gotta you gotta change.

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<v Speaker 2>To New Yorker. Is that you can deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're gonna figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>And you wobble and then you course correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly, which I love.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I also think because the show is

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<v Speaker 1>a success now, it's interesting as opposed to say, first season,

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<v Speaker 1>second season right where we're just kind of like on

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<v Speaker 1>our own, we don't really even know if people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to watch. But now we've got the success. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got the budget is bigger, we've got the costumes, people

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<v Speaker 1>are lending us.

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<v Speaker 2>Close, we got a rhythm, The show has a vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh definitely riff on most definitely, most definitely. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love to see the development of its interesting and you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel it to me, and I guess it's also

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<v Speaker 1>relating to nine to eleven, right, and that the city

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<v Speaker 1>and the world that we're living in is so different now.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we come back, there's a depth. There's an interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, twist on things.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is why I love to your point about her

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<v Speaker 2>being now single, and I love that at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if i'd call it a twist, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know when she doesn't go home with Daniel Sinjada instead,

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<v Speaker 2>like the city is.

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<v Speaker 1>Her No, No, that's really interesting.

0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.959
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful, and it's especially beautiful in the context of

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that would have never happened. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>went home with everybody in this season one. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>there is growth, you know what I mean. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a beautiful guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't she want to get him into bed? But

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<v Speaker 2>it was a great choice to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the city absolutely, I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's so good, Like he's beautiful and so good,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's super interesting. All right, now we come to missus,

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<v Speaker 1>little Charlotte. I want to say one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that distracts me in this whole episode is that I

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<v Speaker 1>had done this photo shoot and they had had decided

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<v Speaker 1>to cut banks. I don't think I wanted bangs. I

0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone really. It was back when I used

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of be easily pushed around or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you're such a victim in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, in a couple of different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying to grow them out, and it took

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<v Speaker 1>forever and we're working right, and it was hard. So

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<v Speaker 1>like my bangs are like shellaced to my head for

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<v Speaker 1>most of this episode just to try to get them

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<v Speaker 1>to behave in the humidity. I have got like so

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<v Speaker 1>much hairspray on my head that I can barely move

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<v Speaker 1>and I am very distracted by it. But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So because you know, kind of like my layers of

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<v Speaker 2>fake makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy absolutely they made it work and look great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so true. So this begins with us at the coffee

0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.080
<v Speaker 1>shop and Samantha really really wants to say pussy so

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<v Speaker 1>badly and keeps saying it, and I'm very displeased because

0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the baby Brady is there. This is a big change.

0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.680
<v Speaker 1>We've got a baby in the family in the group

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<v Speaker 1>and he's around and it's kind of fascinating. And I

0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't have children obviously then, but like then I'm walking

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<v Speaker 1>down the street with Anthony in like a horrible hat.

0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I wore this hat. In my head,

0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.880
<v Speaker 1>there's so many things about this episode that I'm like,

0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.360
<v Speaker 1>what is happening? What is happening? And Anthony's there looking

0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.080
<v Speaker 1>so young, He's adorable and young Mario very young. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's Fleet week. This is the Fleet Week is like

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<v Speaker 1>infiltrating all the scenes, which is adorable and very much

0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.200
<v Speaker 1>how it is New York, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, it's a very and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if non New Yorkers get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it was so much fun that the whole episode,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is real thing. Their sailors everywhere in their outfits.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's add to the mix. After nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what side of the political eyle you were on,

0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.320
<v Speaker 2>we were all feeling a little bit patriotic. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all feeling like, yes, those are our boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely in harm's way.

0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:17.040
<v Speaker 2>We were attacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yeah, yes, yes, that's what It's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's also in there of like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>this weird sense of like we you know, like as women,

0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you're like, we have to support our you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely that's why Charlotte exactly, Yes, totally, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that's what everyone kept telling me at the time when

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous to your patriotic duty exactly, which I

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:45.440
<v Speaker 1>tried to do. So Anthony's telling me that Charlotte that

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.120
<v Speaker 1>she hasn't had sex in a while and she's got

0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to get back out there or it's going to grow over,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh my god, it's very classic mar

0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I could get away with that. I know, Mario can

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much get away with anything.

0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we go to the party because Carrie and Samanth

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of you know, are pushing me or whatever,

0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and then I say that I'm going to have sex

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<v Speaker 1>that night to put Tray behind me, which I guess

0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:14.280
<v Speaker 1>we theoretically do. You know, it's not addressed, it's not right,

0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.000
<v Speaker 1>which is weird for us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I thought it was sweet, like, yeah, there

0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:25.320
<v Speaker 2>was this sense of my character recognized that you were

0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.680
<v Speaker 2>stepping out and trying something, and he was like, okay,

0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll follow your lead, Like I mean he starts off obviously,

0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.960
<v Speaker 2>he starts off like he starts off very very male

0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and very like, you know, I want something, Yes, But

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is a slight evolution in the scene

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<v Speaker 2>where he's like, Okay, I'm I'm going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman here. I'm going to let her take the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, it's it's it's not answered whether

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<v Speaker 2>we actually go home.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think so either, which is kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Just make out a little bit, and which is really nice.

0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It's really nice. There is like an innocence to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing there.

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<v Speaker 2>Really is, right even I mean truly even the whole

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you say, oh, I can't do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I say, just show me one. It's it's in order

0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.440
<v Speaker 2>that it's it's playful and.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right right, thank god, thank god, thank god. I

0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.560
<v Speaker 1>like it. I like it all right. Samanda is going

0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.120
<v Speaker 1>through it in this episode because she's Samantha's I know.

0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting because we have I cannot remember another

0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:20.000
<v Speaker 1>time where she has been upset by a breakup like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I mean, obviously the Richard relationship was

0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a whole different relationship with her, but like seeing her

0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like upset, and you know, she's talking about the things

0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that she would normally be talking about it but with

0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:34.720
<v Speaker 1>this undercurrent of upset, which is rare. She's flyers, I know,

0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'd totally forgotten that. I was like, wait what

0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:42.320
<v Speaker 1>she hands out these bright pink flyers that say liar

0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and cheat her with Richard's picture in his neighborhood. And

0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.280
<v Speaker 1>then the incredible Chandra Wilson shows up, which I'd also totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgotten, right, I know, isn't that like it's crazy, so

0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.360
<v Speaker 2>crazy because she took.

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<v Speaker 1>Off and I remember watching the beginning of Gradson and

0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.400
<v Speaker 1>being like, oh, she's so great, that's.

0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.200
<v Speaker 2>So great, and that moment is it's just great. It's

0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.440
<v Speaker 2>really change she makes when she's like, maam, you can't

0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.160
<v Speaker 2>do that, and then Samantha tells her story story carry on.

0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Man, I know, it's fantastic. It's so good and so

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.439
<v Speaker 1>funny and such a great thing about being able to

0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.080
<v Speaker 1>be a show that's filming in New York finding great

0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.840
<v Speaker 1>actors like yourselves. They might not be huge parts, but

0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.040
<v Speaker 1>they're great, great moments, and they can help other people

0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.239
<v Speaker 1>continue on in their careers, you know what I mean?

0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.240
<v Speaker 1>And like a hundred create momentum and or heat if

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.720
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to call it the industry word. But I

0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.600
<v Speaker 1>love to see it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I'm always grateful for it. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's probably the smallest role that I get

0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:39.680
<v Speaker 2>recognized for.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's great.

0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Who cares, right, I mean, it just goes to show

0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.280
<v Speaker 1>there are no small roles, only small actor.

0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 2>That's what they say.

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what they say. I know it's kind of a

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.800
<v Speaker 1>mean thing, but whatever. Okay, So then we go to

0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.800
<v Speaker 1>this we go to this navy party or whatever. I mean,

0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what my notes say. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way we describe it in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because the salor invite you guys, right right,

0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:01.960
<v Speaker 2>we go.

0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.920
<v Speaker 1>To the floor and at the once. So the other

0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.600
<v Speaker 1>thing I remember about this when we're at the park

0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.240
<v Speaker 1>where we're walking along after the coffee shop in Samantha Sorry,

0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Miranda has her the baby shovel, right, yes, that we

0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 1>also filmed forever, And I don't know why I remember standing.

0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Madison Square Park and we we filmed

0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>there a lot. I think it's kind of like a

0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.119
<v Speaker 1>popular park to New Yorkers but not to other people.

0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.159
<v Speaker 1>And we could get that permit a lot. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is when I have the hair shall act, which I

0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.200
<v Speaker 1>remember because it kept coming loose, like if I because

0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I had you. We had to turn our head and

0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.679
<v Speaker 1>see the sailors. We had to turn. She goes like,

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.400
<v Speaker 1>there's seamen, and Miranda's like a helping to turn around

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.879
<v Speaker 1>their sailors. That's pretty funny. I remember how hard that

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 1>was to film because we had to be on this

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:45.840
<v Speaker 1>side and we had to be on the other side,

0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.080
<v Speaker 1>like many mini angles of us standing, and we stood

0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.000
<v Speaker 1>there forever. And I remember we had a group of

0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.679
<v Speaker 1>paparazzi there, of course, and it was annoying because we

0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.359
<v Speaker 1>were trying to focus and whatever and do our lines.

0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.240
<v Speaker 1>And I remember this one who I'm not going to name,

0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.679
<v Speaker 1>but he's like a it's like a big personality and

0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like was with us every day at certain points, and

0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.320
<v Speaker 1>we'd just be like, oh Lord, give us patience and

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.960
<v Speaker 1>sometimes right, and he would shout at us to like

0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.720
<v Speaker 1>pose and whatnot between takes and you're just.

0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh my god.

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And you're also like, I'm just trying to do the scene,

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, right, and you know how we have our

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.800
<v Speaker 1>little mini sides. So sometimes Sir Jessica would take the

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.560
<v Speaker 1>mini sides and like hold them up, like if the

0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.919
<v Speaker 1>pop parksy were over there, she'd block her face and

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that made him really mad. And I believe this particular

0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.560
<v Speaker 1>day and we had like a group of people watching,

0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.920
<v Speaker 1>but not a huge group, but like some people he

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.879
<v Speaker 1>started shouting her address to them, and remember being so

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 1>deeply upsetting it.

0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, now you've really crossed a line. It's like a

0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:49.560
<v Speaker 2>safety line.

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a safety line, I know. And I mean, yes,

0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:53.920
<v Speaker 1>she lives in New York, and yes people know where

0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>she lives, and that's already messed up. But like it's

0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 1>so hard and there's really nothing you can.

0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Do, right and and if you react then you're giving.

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.240
<v Speaker 1>It's worse. Absolutely, So we're just sitting there, just inside, dying,

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and I just want to protect her. You know.

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.719
<v Speaker 2>York's funny that way, right, because New Yorkers in general

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 2>try to be cool about it, right, Yes, so shooting

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<v Speaker 2>here generally people are like, yeah, you're not you don't

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<v Speaker 2>you don't impress me.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also a lot of a lot of tourists.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's just it. Yeah, I was doing a series

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<v Speaker 2>with Jlo a few years back, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids love this story. So our trailers were unmarked,

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<v Speaker 2>but that we were at a location in the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and and I'll never forge. So there are

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<v Speaker 2>a crowd of people gathered outside my trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, they thought you were hurt.

0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Well they didn't know. Oh maybe I could.

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>They were guessing.

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.199
<v Speaker 2>But I'll never forget the opening my door, and like

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.320
<v Speaker 2>a hundred people go, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean this leads to why Jlo is Jlo?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Jlo is ready for those people. Sure, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>living her life like I am here for that family,

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.879
<v Speaker 1>which is impressive. I don't know how she does it.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do it prostitution.

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could do it either.

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I can, but she is.

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>She makes it work.

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 2>She makes it work.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, you know, I mean because you were in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronx. Isn't that where she's from?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Like it must have been such a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>to these.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a video. It's a little I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell it. Don't tell it. Don't tell it is mean.

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 2>It's not mean, Okay, It's just all it is is

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<v Speaker 2>like apparently she's back in her old neighborhood and she's

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.239
<v Speaker 2>sort of like expecting this guy to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're Jenny from the block, and he's like, who are you?

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen you before, right, I guess there's always that, right,

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like like on the one hand, there's the height of whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like people know and are excited, and then on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, there's always someone who's going to just put

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<v Speaker 1>you right back, which is and.

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.200
<v Speaker 2>The guy was probably mean. He literally is just being

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<v Speaker 2>like a classic New Yorker like got it? Were you?

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<v Speaker 1>Totally? Totally, totally all right, Let's talk a little bit

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:09.679
<v Speaker 1>about Miranda. Got a recap, Got a recap. She's a brunch,

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 1>she's got the baby. She says something like just pretend

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a very heavy handbag, which is pretty funny,

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>but no, it is actually a baby. And then we

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>put her in a taxi to send her home, which

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>is also kind of entertaining. It's just funny to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like Michael is writing into the show

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<v Speaker 1>with the girls and the friendship, what he is dealing

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 1>with as a writer with now he's had her have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. What I'm saying, like, how are we gonna

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<v Speaker 1>deal with it.

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 2>And we know as parents like dynamic shift, right. I mean,

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.719
<v Speaker 2>your life obviously changes dramatically, and there is a divide

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 2>those who have kids and those who don't have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's hard, it's hard, and it's interesting to watch

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>now that we have that perspective in life because obviously

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>then we didn't, right, but Cynthia did. Cynthia had her

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>first job already when we started. I remember just thinking like,

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 1>how does she do it? She's like, it's fine, it's fine,

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>because Cynthia is superhuman. No, she wasn't like it's just

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a handbag, but she was like, it's fine, it's fine, right,

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting to see him writing into the show

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and the struggles that people actually really go through, and

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I obviously did not have the perspective

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I have now on it, so I'm rewatching with a

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>different perspective, which is what people are always saying they do,

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>which I love. But it's really interesting. She gets back

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to the apartment. Steve is there, but she's like, no,

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 1>get out or whatever. It's so interesting because I can't

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>remember how the relationship goes. I know what happens eventually,

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 1>but it's super interesting to watch the choice.

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 2>They're obviously in a rocky patch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I love it. It's super good and I

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think I fully appreciated it at the time.

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's nice when he comes back later and

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>with the belly button.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sweet moment.

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 1>It really is, because Steve is really sweet. I didn't

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really appreciate it at the time. I was like, oh, Steve,

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.920
<v Speaker 1>but he's really sweet and so different from her. They're

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 1>super fascinating together. But yeah, the belly button situation, just

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>as a mom, I'm like, oh my god, Oh my god,

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I've forgotten all of this. The cat, she's changing him

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and his belly button comes off and the cat runs away.

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>My god. Mortifying, mortifying and so great and so real,

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>so real, And I mean, these things are weird.

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Face it. The belly button thing is weird.

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>It is weird, And why don't people tell you that

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna happen.

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 2>And it's the most natural thing I.

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Know, but no one really wears you, right because they

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>put like that clip on it at the hospital, which

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 1>is also weird. And I remember my daughter when she

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>came home from the hospital, she still had the clip on,

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and I was just so scared. But you're trying to

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>change their drapers and get them clean, and you're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I don't want to knock the belly

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 1>button off. And of course I had been through this,

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>which I guess I didn't really remember, but subconsciously I

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>must have remembered. Oh, the animals could get it and

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 1>they like it. Yeah, that's crazy even think about. So crazy.

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>But poor Miranda's there trying to be a mom, kind

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 1>of doesn't know what she's doing, which is also so relatable,

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>even though she's so powerful in life. Right, Like, I

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>love this. I'm obviously really rewatching it with whole new eyes, of.

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Course, especially not just as a mom, but as a

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>single mom. Yeah, right, Like you really get it.

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I really get it. And I don't know how she

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>did it, Miranda, don't know how you did it. For

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the I don't know how asian amount of time.

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 2>My kids are born in La Yeah, and when we

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>move back, we were like, we can't live in Manhattan,

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, we can't go from a house to an apartment.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I look at people raising kids in the city.

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wow, that's impressive.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>My friends told me that I was wrong to do

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it in La, that it's easier in the city, But

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that's because Sarah juscin Cynthia are just superhumans. Because I

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, you guys are not normal. I can't go

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>on what you're saying because you're super supernatural human beings

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>who also grew up here, right right, So I mean

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>sin her whole life. Sarah came a little bit later,

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>but mostly grew up here. And I think that you

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>just get used to it, and there's a certain like

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>everything is here and available. But like for me, putting

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>the baby in a car is a lot easier than

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>getting down the stairs with that stroller. God, I'm covering

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the stroller with the rain Jesus.

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>And not having that car to jump into right right.

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And I did live on the upper side for almost

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the whole most of the show actually, and the you know,

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the stroller brigade, like, they will run you down on

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the Upper West Side.

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Man, they'll stop traffic.

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>They really will. They rule up there, no joke. But

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're single people up there, you're just like, oh

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>my god.

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 2>They'll use it as a weapon.

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's very intense, but I understand it all so

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>much better now because it's hard right where they're like,

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to do it, get out of our way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a a tank. Totally, totally, totally. I have a question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Kristen, are you a Charlotte?

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Am I a Charlotte? I wasn't. It's funny, it's it's

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the name of your podcast. I wasn't expecting it. No,

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I am.

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you don't have to be I'm not trying to people. Okay, Okay, okay,

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that I am. Okay.

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>How so.

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in love? It's number one Charlotte quality. Mmm. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say I'm balancing because I'm thinking about

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the other characters in this regard. But I want to

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>say integrity, okay. I want to say a sense of

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 2>a sense of right and wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>a desires to do the right thing right that's right,

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 2>and not always succeeding, but that's the desire.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Trying very hard to do the right thing, to do

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the right thing. That's so nice. That's a different take.

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear people's perceptions all so of Charlotte.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>And also, you know, it's good writing obviously you know

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I love that. That's different

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and I like it. I like it very much. I mean, also,

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you're married, you have two kids. There are certain elements

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of Charlotte in there. Sure, yeah, you're sure dependable, you know.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I am definitely dependable.

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is a good good quality to have, not

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a flashy quality, but really important in life.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I love that about Charlotte too.

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>She's got the good but she's it's interesting because I mean, obviously,

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's there's no way to say this without

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>complimenting you. She's beautiful, but she has a flash to her,

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>but she's not. That's not her, that's not who she is.

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that's true. That's true. It's hard for

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>me to be objective about that part of her, right.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Instagram also shows me when we go to

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic City and I put on that crazy dress because

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be something that I'm not or whatever

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>shows me that a lot lately. I don't know why,

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, wow, it's crazy all the different things

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>they let me do, you know.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks Mark, thanks for joining us.