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Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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Speaker 1: We're continuing with our series on Queer the Vote in

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Speaker 1: partnership with the LGBTQ Task Force. Last month, I had

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Speaker 1: the distinct pleasure in honor of attending the Creating Change

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Speaker 1: Conference in New Orleans and got to sit down with

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ activists on the ground in battleground states and talking

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Speaker 1: about the issues that are adversely affecting their lives and

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Speaker 1: the lives of those that are living inside of red states. Oftentimes.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think even myself can be very I

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Speaker 1: don't know, just not really recognizing that while we look

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Speaker 1: at these states like Mississippi, like Florida, like Texas with

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Speaker 1: their incredibly disgusting laws, and we see the headlines, we

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Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to live there, and to

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Speaker 1: live inside of a queer body and be in a

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Speaker 1: space and place that has turned you, your life, and

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Speaker 1: your family into targets. Right, even me, I will say

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Speaker 1: this as a black queer woman, I am not by

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Speaker 1: virtue of looking at me what one would say is

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Speaker 1: queer or lesbian, Right, or part of the LGBTQ community.

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Speaker 1: It's the reason why I offer it, you know, often

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Speaker 1: because there are those people who do not quote unquote

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Speaker 1: pass and there is all different types of passing in

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Speaker 1: the community right, much in the same way that there

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Speaker 1: was passing in the black community, much in the same

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Speaker 1: way that people at one time with very Italian or

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Speaker 1: Jewish last names would change their names right in order

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Speaker 1: to assimilate and blend in. And there are some folks

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Speaker 1: that can, and there are some folks that can't, and

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Speaker 1: there are some folks that won't. But the fact is

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Speaker 1: that unless you're inside of a red state, you don't

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Speaker 1: know what it's like. And even in blue states, we

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Speaker 1: know that. Just not too long ago, there was a

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Speaker 1: shooting of a black queer man who was dancing to

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Speaker 1: Beyonce at a gas station in Brooklyn. So while marriage

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Speaker 1: equality changed some perceptions, an acceptance has risen throughout the decades.

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Speaker 1: What this Republican Party is trying to do is not

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Speaker 1: only turn back the clock, but eradicate LGBTQ people from

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Speaker 1: day to day life. And so these conversations that we

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Speaker 1: are continuing this week, I think are really important and

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Speaker 1: really illuminating and incredibly necessary. So coming up next my

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Speaker 1: conversation with activists Geo Santiago, Folks, I am so excited

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Speaker 1: to welcome to OOKF Daily Geo Santiago, who is the

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Speaker 1: founder and CEO of Meta Center, Inc. A nonprofit organization

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Speaker 1: assisting trans youth from ages five to twenty five with

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Speaker 1: all sorts of things from care packages, clothing swaps, you know,

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Speaker 1: opportunities to create community parks and recreation in the state

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Speaker 1: of Ohio, which, as you all know, is a battle

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Speaker 1: ground state and has been in the headlines with a

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Speaker 1: lot of ballot initiatives to restrict voting, to restrict access

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Speaker 1: to abortion, to restrict dignity and respect for the LGBTQ community,

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Speaker 1: and g you and I are here right now at

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Speaker 1: the Creating Change Conference put on by the National LGBTQ

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Speaker 1: Task Force in New Orleans. Geo, first, talk to me

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Speaker 1: about your organization and why you founded it and what

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Speaker 1: it is that people need to understand about what's happening

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Speaker 1: on the ground in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I started Meta in twenty sixteen. It kind

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Speaker 2: of came out of the fact that there were so

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Speaker 2: many trans youth that we were seeing in the media

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Speaker 2: either attempting suicide or completing suicide, and the lack of

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Speaker 2: resources that there were. You know, there's lgbt centers, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of everywhere, and you know, I live just outside

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Speaker 2: also were seeing with that was there's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of youth programming that were happening at these locations. Everything

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Speaker 2: And so as a person who's a doer, I just

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Speaker 2: Eight years, it's been a lot of me having like

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Speaker 2: one on one talks with students family schools.

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Speaker 2: I speak just to like the GSAs, but I also

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Speaker 2: just really letting people know that there are resources out there,

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Speaker 3: With them, but more importantly that education is key.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm also a teacher by and so I

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Speaker 2: by coaches, teachers, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, sometimes their family.

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Speaker 2: And so it's very hard for them to see the

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Speaker 3: I got through it.

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Speaker 2: And actually I'm the one holding the candle or you know,

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Speaker 2: the lantern for you. So I think giving the education

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Speaker 1: You know, I will tell you one I am an

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Speaker 1: educator by trade. I taught in Washington, d C. When

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Speaker 1: education is key to personal empowerment, to success, whatever success

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Speaker 1: looks like for you, which is why you have the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party in different states working so hard to erase

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Speaker 1: public education, to ban books, to deny access to critical thought,

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Speaker 1: which is essentially what they're trying to do. And I

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Speaker 1: think that as it pertains to the trans community in

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Speaker 1: particular and to trans youth. Why do you think that

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Speaker 1: they and when I say they, Maga supremis the Republican

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Speaker 1: want to play on sports teams, which we know that

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Speaker 1: if you talk to you know, therapists and sociologists that

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that they've made this group?

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Speaker 3: I think it's two reasons.

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Speaker 2: The first one is it's some internalized homophobia transphobia.

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Speaker 3: Come on, you know you hate who you are yep.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, So it's that projection, you know, because what we

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Speaker 2: then I think it is they saw trans youth and

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Speaker 2: But you know, that ideology of white supremacy and just

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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, but I know that I'm better than you,

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Speaker 2: whether it's because I'm white, whether it's because I am

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Speaker 2: middle class, or because I am male identified, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: I think that's what's happening. And so then you have

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what is now happening in public policy.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is so right.

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Speaker 1: We are so locked inside of the zoo. What makes

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Speaker 1: had felt for quite some time that we as members

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Speaker 1: that things were actually looking up.

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Speaker 1: We had gone from the early two thousands of it

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Speaker 1: an administration. Right, that there was progress that was happening.

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Speaker 1: I feel a sense of darkness.

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Speaker 2: Can I energete and ask, okay, was that progress for

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Speaker 1: So this is so? And so that's the thing is

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Speaker 2: So if you look at all of those things and

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you can get married. But am I going

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Speaker 2: I really because when they see me, they're going to

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. So all of these things that we're seen

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Speaker 2: So there's no shade to anyone who even still thinks that.

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Speaker 2: But when you really boil it down, if we're thinking

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what it was.

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Speaker 2: It was like, you know again, the thing that really

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Speaker 2: look at some of that, and some of us are like,

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Speaker 2: because especially trans people like I could get married because

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Speaker 2: matter if marriage quality passed because that no longer affected

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Speaker 2: Can trans people, even if they have health care, go

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Speaker 3: Thing, you know and have the broken arm syndrome?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if folks know what that is,

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Speaker 2: but that is like a trans person goes to the

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Speaker 2: this happened because you're trans. You're like, no, it happened

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Speaker 2: because I fell off the back of the truck. Like

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Speaker 2: my arm is broken. Me being trans has nothing to

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all of these other things.

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Speaker 2: But if this thing that we're looking for to make

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Speaker 1: That is so valid because I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: it means to advance and progress right, what it means

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Speaker 2: Also we have we're on social media with the same

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Speaker 2: now because trans youth, trans adults, OGBTQ people in general

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Speaker 2: And you know, we live in Ohio because we have

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, thank you, thank you so much for making

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Speaker 1: to all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke

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