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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House top works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Caroline and I'm Kristin. Kristin, I want

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Speaker 1: you to picture a large man, a burly, burly man,

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Speaker 1: has a lady on his arm, and she's wearing petticoats.

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Speaker 1: Would that would that lady be me? Am I in

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Speaker 1: the It sure could be Okay, it could be cool. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is you wearing petticoats and you are on the

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Speaker 1: cover of a romance novel, and your romance novel happens

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Speaker 1: to have sold a billions of copies. Actually, romance novels

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Speaker 1: in general, not just not just not just the Christen

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Speaker 1: Conger edition, my best selling uh podcast romance right exactly

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Speaker 1: something like that. Um. Yes, today we are talking about

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Speaker 1: romance novels and why they are so popular. They still

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Speaker 1: get a pretty bad rap I think in general, but um,

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Speaker 1: enough people are buying them. Yeah. Here's the thing, Hi,

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Speaker 1: high minded literary folk out there, don't laugh too much

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Speaker 1: at the romance genre. Because it is huge, and it

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Speaker 1: is far outpacing all of the books that that you

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Speaker 1: might be buying. For instance, the Romance Writers of America

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Speaker 1: reports that in two thousand and ten, romance novels sold

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Speaker 1: one point three eight billion in sales. Right, that is crazy,

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Speaker 1: And that's down just a little from two thousand five

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Speaker 1: romance novels sales are projected to up to one point

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Speaker 1: three six eight billion this year. And if you're if

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Speaker 1: it is, it actually is, because the closest category in

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Speaker 1: the running is religion and inspirational books and those just

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Speaker 1: brought in seven and fifty nine million last year and

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Speaker 1: not even touching, not even touching romance novels. So what

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Speaker 1: we're getting at here is that romance fiction is the

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Speaker 1: top imprints are Mira Grand, Central Publishing, h hu In

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Speaker 1: which I think used to be known as Harlequin, Jove Berkeley,

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Speaker 1: and even within this genre because it is so large.

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Speaker 1: There are sub genres such as history, suspense, fantasy, sci fi, um,

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Speaker 1: Christmas romance novels especially popular to keep you warm on

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Speaker 1: romance fiction all sorts. Yeah. Actually, And the number of

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Speaker 1: it's it's mostly the romance reader out there. It's mostly

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Speaker 1: they do appeal to women so much really explains those

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Speaker 1: can even see this among e book readers UM with

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Speaker 1: from Emily. This is HARKing back to our single podcast

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