WEBVTT - What is the future of Earth? 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.880 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:16.520 from house stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.799 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always Charles W. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:27.200 Chuck Bryant, maker of some fine yarns, spinner of yarns, 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:32.239 your yarn spinner. I am uh, I guess I am 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.920 too to a certain extent, part time seamstress. Yes, but 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.320 you only make these suits of light formed by Matta doors. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.680 That's right, Josh, Chuck. Yes, how's it going? It's great. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.640 I can't wait to hear the interrupt with this. Why. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:49.800 I don't know, because I thought this is a pretty 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:54.160 interesting thing that we're doing. I agree. This is not one, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.880 not two, but three articles in one that's right, combined 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.360 ms mashed, taken totally out of context and repeated incorrectly. Yeah, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:05.960 we might be all over the place on this one. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.399 Not necessarily. I've I've I've discovered a structure to this. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.360 So and follow me. Okay um, let me give you 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.640 the intro first, Chuck, h have you heard of the 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:24.000 Kio satellite? No? Okay um. If you read Ben Bolan's blog. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.400 You would have heard of age written about it twice. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.720 Who yeah, um stuff, they don't want you to know. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.200 It's Ben Bowling. Car Stuff's Ben Bowling, just a general 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.480 man about town of awesomeness, Ben bowl And he wrote 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.280 about the Kio satellite, which was originally conceived and I 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:45.200 think by a French artist named Jean Marc Philippe. So 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.080 if you didn't believe me that he was French, I'll 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.800 bet you do now. Um. And his idea was to 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.480 basically create a time capsule and launch it into space. Right, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.760 so he had standard stuff, um, standard time capsule stuff. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.120 You know, a drop of human blood encased in a 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.760 diamond with the human genome engraved on the outside of it. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:09.600 Kim Kardashian's bikini. Yeah, um the uh, let's see a 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:14.800 sample of air water, Um, basically earth wind and fire 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.600 but without the fire and with air, and then a 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.800 CD of earth wind and fire which would be great 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.040 and water. Yeah, I don't know why you wouldn't put 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.120 it in in. There would be a fun little ironic twist. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.280 He got a bunch of um, a bunch of press 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.880 because one of the cool things that he's invited people 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.840 to do is to enter your own message whatever you 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.000 want to say, UM, up to six thousand characters, which 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.920 is still substantials, fure paragraphs. UM. And originally, since this 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.239 was from you could send it your submission in via 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.760 regular mail or as Time Magazine put it in two 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:56.440 thousand electronic mail. UM. Now I'm quite sure you can 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.320 only go to Kyo dot org and enter through the website. UM. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.680 But then all of this will be compiled into again 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.240 based on the Time magazine report a CD ROM. Now 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.320 it'll be transcribed onto some DVDs. UM. Now those things 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:16.080 should have been launched like five times. But he's seeking 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.480 private funding. It's a good idea. People are with it. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.240 Has no one ever done this? No, But the the 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.200 whole point of it is is all this stuff is 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:24.799 going to be put into Seid like shot in the 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.320 space and it's going to be given I'm not quite 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.160 sure how a fifty thousand year orbit, and then after 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:35.200 fifty thou years it should fall to Earth hopefully be discovered. Um. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.120 Within all this will be some sort of pictogram depicting 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:42.440 how to create a DVD player, and then interesting, some 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.800 future civilization would be like, oh it's a DVD, it 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.760 will just pop it in our DVD player and then, 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:52.320 oh my gosh, I can't believe what um Mitch mausch 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:57.280 fourteen had to say about about what life is like 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.520 on Earth fifty years? Yeah, what is this l well mean? 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:06.040 And he chose kio because apparently, k e oh are 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.120 the three most common phone names in all the world's languages. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.800 It's a pretty good idea. I love it. At the 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.840 very least, it coincides with one of the articles. We're 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.680 talking about what will the Earth be like in fifty 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:23.719 thousand years? Boom intro done, nice job, Uh, And to 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.479 get the fifty thousand years, Josh, we are going to 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.760 also touch on the articles five years in five thousand years, 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:36.000 and through this I'm also going to be uh disseminating information. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:46.919 I found a Live Science article that hit and and 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:52.480 they sort of culled um opinions from scientists all over 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.400 the world on what might be going on, and that's 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.080 all within the next two hundred years. And the story 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.280 is not good. Well, yes, so here's here's the structure 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:06.240 I mentioned previously, Chuckers. There's a couple of ways to approaches, right. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.440 We're so we're talking about the fifty years from now, Um, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.479 there there's one. There are two big questions. One will 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.960 humans be around each of these periods, And there's two 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.200 possible answers, yes or no. And then depending on the answer, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.880 we choose you, we choose our own adventure, and we 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.520 end up with treasure or being chased by pirates. Right. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.720 The other possible answer is okay, if humans are around, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.880 how advanced is our technology and specifically how advances our 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:41.279 ability to tap energy, which apparently is totally correlated with 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.719 how advanced or technology will be? Right, So I guess 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.279 approaching the idea where humans aren't around for any of this. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.039 Just go watch a documentary called Life After Us or 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.719 Life After People. I didn't get to watch it. It's cool, 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.640 I'm gonna watch. It's a very neat little hour and 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.479 a half documentary that was a mini series like some 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.120 time Ago on some other channel. Um, but it is 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.359 a neat little um documentary like what if? And it 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.640 shows like what how long? Basically the Earth will erase 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.880 any mark of humanity after we're gone? And it doesn't. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.279 It takes a very it takes a startlingly short time, 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:23.400 and the dogs go feral and it's crazy. Really Yeah. Um, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.839 but let's say humans are around, especially in that five 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.479 hundred years scenario. Well before we get there, can I 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.560 read some of these highlights and this is in the 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:37.360 next you know, up until so this in the immediate future, 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.599 some of us it will still be alive. I'll just 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.960 read a few of these. By the year just to 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.040 scare you. Uh, less rainfall could reduce agricultural yields by 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:51.279 up in some parts of the world. Uh. World population 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:55.040 will be seven point six billion by up to eight 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.559 percent of the coral reefs in the world will be lost. Yeah, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.240 because of increased ten richers in the sea and higher acidity. Right, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.440 was it lower a cidity? I think it's higher. Acidity 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.840 is higher okay, um and the Arctic Sea could be 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.080 ice free in the summertime by the year twenty three. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.160 And these are recording to you know. That was specifically 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.960 James Overland of the n O A A and Muin 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:24.040 Wang of the geophysical research letters from you dub So 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.800 I'm just not I'm not trying to preach some wacky 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:34.280 global warming conspiracies here quoting from other people. Okay, by uh, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.280 ocean acidification okay, it is acid could kill off most 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.000 of the coral reefs. At least four hundred bird species 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.320 could become endangered or extinct due to deforestation and people 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:49.320 eating them. In Australia, all your Aussies out there, there 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:59.280 will likely be an additional heat related deaths per year. Josh, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.120 it gets worse. Between one point one and three point 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.240 two billion people will experience water shortages and up the 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.720 six million people will go hungry. You know, it's crazy. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.080 We we've talked a lot about this, like what happens 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.880 when we run out of water? Um, the climate porn 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.040 one where we like warned against exactly what we're doing 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.520 right now. Um, we've talked about a lot of this. 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.320 Go back and listen to it. Everybody agreed. Uh, sea 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.120 levels could rise in New York City by more than 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:28.520 three ft flooding Uh Brooklyn Queen's Coney Island. So let 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.960 me let me add something there. Three ft it's a 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.360 meter roughly, and there's um that's that's totally within the 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.400 predictions of sea level rise due to global warming. Right 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.040 about half a meter to two meters is what's predicted. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.839 So one meter in there, if the sea levels rise 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.120 by one meter in the US will lose ten thousand 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.640 square miles of dry land in the southwest. If the 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:57.599 sea levels rise one meter um in India, Bangladesh and Indonesia, 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.240 they will lose, respectively, six thousands square kilometers, thirty thousand 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.040 square kilometers and thirty four thousand square kilometers of dry 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.880 land lost. And believe me, Indonesia doesn't have much more 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.920 than thirty four thousand square kilometers of dry land to 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.400 give up, right um, and the total of twenty four 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:20.760 million people will be displaced. I know that that's that's 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.480 three ft that's think about it. I mean like, it 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.640 doesn't seem like much, but it goes, you know, a 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.520 ways back. Plus also we lose all those wet land buffers, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.240 so erosion um really takes a hold as well. Well. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.760 They also along those lines predicted that coastal population is 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.680 going to balloon to about five billion. People already live 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:48.880 along the world's most populous populated river basins, so everybody's 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.719 gonna have to move back a little bit, everybody back up. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.720 So while this is happening too, by the y, while 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.280 some places are flooded, other places gonna be drying out. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.520 Oh yeah, desertification, And we've talked about that. It's about 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:06.840 that and then flash forward, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels will 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.480 be much higher than any time during the past six 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:14.640 and fifty thousand years, Ocean pH levels will be the 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.240 lowest they've been in the last twenty million years, and 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.480 the ability of things like coral crabs, oysters, any kind 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.440 of shelled fish exoskeleton probably isn't going to be alive 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.080 in a quarter of all species of plants and land 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:35.040 animals could be driven to extinction. So that's okay, So 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.880 let's say chuck that tomorrow. Everybody's like, we're going all 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:44.120 wind power. Everybody just prepared for some dark couple of years. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.080 But we're gonna be fine. We're done doing fossil fuels tomorrow, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.360 and we don't put any more anthropogenic c O two 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.120 into the atmosphere. If we did that, within a few 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.120 decades ce A two levels would go back to normal 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.360 whatever you could consider normal without human contribution. But then 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.959 about years from now, we could expect to enter another 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.040 ice age, which the last a hundred thousand years. So 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.880 you're starting to get the idea that humans just being 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.920 us on a planet, just burning fossil fuels, dead plants 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.280 and animals for energy. It's as extremely primitive as you're 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.559 about to see. Um, we are in trouble one way 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.480 or the other. Oh yeah, and dude, that's not even 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:30.079 talking about extinction level events that are gonna happen at 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.320 some point. That's normal glacial stuff that may happen millions 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.840 of years from now. But at some point something will 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:41.200 destroy humanity. Okay, yes, agreed. But over the short term, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.960 say five years, we have, Um, we have a a 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.400 big challenge to stay alive. Um. We have to basically 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:56.600 become Our technology has to outgrow the frequency of catastrophic events, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:01.280 things like a meteor comment and ice age client a change. Um. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.880 And that's Michio Kaku talking. Um. But if we can, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:10.520 if our civilization can advance fast enough that we can say, oh, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.439 there's a comment that's coming and there's going to be 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.120 a mass extinction event. Luckily our technology is sufficient that 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.920 we can go out there and destroy it before it 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.439 gets anywhere near Earth will be fine. Well, we should 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.559 be able to ensure our survival at least here on 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.240 the planet. And the way to do that is to 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.480 go from what we are now, which is essentially a 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:32.400 type zero civilization, to a Type one civilization. Yes, we 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.920 should go ahead and mention this that's very important. Uh, 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:40.160 the Kim Kardashian scale. That's twice in one episode. I 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.040 don't even know it. I don't even know who she is. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:48.280 Hardly that's good, okay. Uh. Russian astrophysicist Nikolai kardas Chev 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:53.640 um put forth his theory that our technical advancement is 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.560 in direct correlation to how much energy we can consume 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.800 and tap into harness. Yeah. Yeah, uh, type one, which 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.839 we're not even there yet. We're type zero right now. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:08.320 As we can harness everything on this planet period, every 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.040 kind of energy we can tap into, right, but it's 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.199 um it should be any type of energy that's available 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.920 that's non extracted. Basically, any kind of non harmful energy 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.040 is kind of the caveats, So it's basically solar radiation, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.079 nuclear fusion, that kind of thing. We use a billionth 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.640 of the Sun's No, there's a billionth of the Sun's 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.560 energy available to us on Earth through solar radiation. We 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.240 currently harness a millionth of that. So we have a 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.960 ways to go. But if you look at our progress 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.800 over the last hundred years, we were harnessing like zero 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.400 of it pretty much, and now we're harnessing a million, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.520 So it's quite possible, according to Michio Kaku, that will 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.560 be able to harness a UM within a hundred years. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.559 Well yeah, they say that. Over the past ten thousand years, 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.280 are scientists estimate that we have evolved a hundred times 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.280 faster than at any other time. So if that continues, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.840 then hopefully we can keep pace. I mean, just look 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.640 at our advances in lighting over the last hundred years. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:17.000 I mean that we went from fire to incandescent light 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:21.600 bulbs to compact fluorescence. Um. Yeah, I feel like we're 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:26.680 we're exponentially advancing. Agreed. So if we moved to a 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.080 type one, we harness a hundred percent of the energy 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:34.240 on the planet, we become UM. By definition, according to Cardaschef, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:39.120 a planetary a truly planetary species, where like we probably 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.920 have a universal language, we're all communicating via the internet, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.440 like we are earthlings, and we no longer see ourselves 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:53.720 as Americans or Mexicans or Latvians or um whoever? Right, right, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:58.680 exactly um. And as a result, our technology should be 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.880 advanced enough that we can control roll things on the 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:06.040 planet that threatened us, like I say, just or climate change. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.560 So if we can do that, then we ensured our 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.640 survival here on Earth, at least from those sort of 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.160 natural disasters. Exactly. Good point, Chuck, because we could always 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:19.080 kill ourselves via war or something like that, or we 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:23.600 may enter the Singularity before we've sufficiently attached ourselves. The 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:28.080 machines become post human, and if the Singularity takes off 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.560 before then we are doomed. All right, let's get through 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.240 these next to it real quick man. Type two means 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.080 we can summon the power of an entire star system. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:44.520 That's pretty pretty impressive, which um Freeman Dyson, Yeah, physicist, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.720 he said that his his whole thing is that um, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.080 a type two civilization could like basically put a gaggle 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:56.440 of satellites around a star and um like harvest its 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.280 energy like that. Yeah, and he just for the record, Uh, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.960 michio Ki who says we might be able to get 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.720 to type one in a hundred years and Dyson says 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.720 it's going to be more like two. Still A sounds 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.000 too bad, No, I mean that's a that's leaps and 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.600 bounds from where we are now. And Type three, Josh, 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.200 the geekiest of all. We can command energy on a 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:22.880 galactic scale. I don't even know what that means. I 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:27.400 think basically it means like, um, so we can get 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.120 other solar systems. Yeah, we can harness the energy of 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.960 more than one star at once, and we would have 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.600 power beyond anything we could conceive of. Probably also by 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.400 that time, that would, I guess, mean that we were 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.880 capable of interstellar travel, which would probably mean that if 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.640 there's anybody else out there, we're contacting them, which hopefully 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.600 doesn't mean we're at war with them, but probably does 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:54.320 at least at first. So you mentioned technology growing, It's 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:59.320 a little something called Moore's law. Uh, computer speed and 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:04.000 complexity levels every eighteen months. If that continues, then potentially 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.439 in the not too distant future, there could be a 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.960 lot of robotics going on controlling these things instead of people, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.720 or in addition to people. What do you think about that. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.959 I think that if we're not already fused to those machines, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:23.520 machines were slaves, which is trans humanism. Yeah, right, which 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.680 I mean if you're looking at it, over a hundred years, 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.800 we're so close to mastering genetics that there's if we 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.520 stay on this track, it's pretty much impossible that we 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:39.680 won't have diverged from evolution, taken ourselves out of natural selection, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.240 because we'll be able to fix ourselves. So well that 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.560 really the only thing that we just genetics alone, the 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.800 only thing we wouldn't be able to fix probably is death. Well, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:55.399 don't be so sure. Uh, there's a Cambridge University geneticist, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.119 Aubrey de Gray who has said these famous words, the 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.800 first person to to be one thousand years old is 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:06.119 certainly already alive today. Uh, and whether they realize it 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.600 or not, barring accidents in suicide, most people that are 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.280 forty years old or younger now can expect to live 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:19.280 for centuries. She's definitely on me, Aubrey. Maybe not British, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:26.400 perhaps he or she Weslie Leslie definitely sherlock out there 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:31.240 as far as his or her predictions. But scientists do 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.320 think that we are. I mean, they can already extend 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.159 the age in other mammals and laboratories, and we're funding 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.159 it to the tune of two point four billion dollars 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.920 a year anti aging. So yeah, who knows. And we 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.640 talked about this before. To cryonics. Cryonics is all coming 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.480 back together. Uh, let's see what else, chuck. So five 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.639 years we will most surely be around, I would say, 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.879 and we will either be a suffering primate species in 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:03.800 the sweltering he or freezing um and and iceage that 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.480 began because we abandoned fossil fuels without thinking it through. Um. 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.080 But we'll probably still be around, right, especially if you 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:17.240 look at catastrophic global change, it will probably be okay, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:22.000 most of us will be those of us in life. Um, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:26.320 what about five thousand years from now? Seventy two? Are 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:32.280 the seven thousands now? Yeah? Seven seventy yeah, two twelve. Yeah. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.720 This this thing is blowing my mind so much. I 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.040 don't even know a year it is now. Uh. Robert 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.040 Lamb wrote this one, and he says that if we 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:46.000 reach that type one status, then that's great news because 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:50.320 then we've been able to stave off ecological disaster by 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.520 being able to control these things and harness energy elsewhere. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.520 But he also points out, like we said earlier, warfare, 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.920 warfare and uh self destruction might do away with us. Sure, 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.879 if we're gonna type the chief type two status, then 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:11.159 the sky is the limit or the galaxy is the limit? Right? Well, 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:15.159 that's the one with interstellar travel, I believe, um. And 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:20.760 then he also talks about diverging through trans humanism post humanism, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.639 where if we take ourselves out a natural selection, that 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.720 will probably looking back, be a point where it's a 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:33.399 significant as Homo sapiens diverging from Neanderthals or whatever happened 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.080 back there, because you know, there's a lot of speculation 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.639 that humans are like six Neanderthal and like tem percent 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:45.080 something else, and like we're we we very much interbred 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.840 with these um individuals we were competing with as well. Interesting, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.240 so I guess it wouldn't be diverging, but um, say 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:57.960 the extinction of UM Neanderthals and the skyrocketing of Homo 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:02.200 sapiens because think about we're talking about fifty years ago. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.440 Fifty years ago, Home of Sapiens were just now reaching Europe, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:10.720 and Neanderthals were very much still around and alive and 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.200 possibly taken to the seas because they think that they 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:18.200 were the first ones to UM basically build canoes. Yeah, 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.040 they've gotten a bad rap and they're just now starting 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:25.000 to be understood. Interesting. Yeah, if you don't know your pass, 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.400 you don't know your future. Josh, Well, that's the that's 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.119 kind of one of the basis of this this little 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.119 exercise we're doing now. It's kind of like if you 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.840 look at where we've come, especially if you're talking about 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:40.680 how quickly we're progressing. I mean five hundred years ago, um, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.520 who was it? Pontsa daily On discovered the Turks in 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.760 the cake coos in fifteen twelve, twenty years after the 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.520 Age of Exploration began, Like at where we are now, 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:52.840 we go to Turks and cacause right now, if we 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:54.760 had a lot of money, dude, we can go to Mars. 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.760 Not really not us, but we can land things on 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:03.720 a robotic cameras. That's like the beginning of the new 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.200 Age of exploration. But humans, they'll colonize Mars at some point. 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.000 I look that that's another question to this whole thing 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.320 as well, like what will the Earth look like? If 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.520 you look at the first two in five years and 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.760 five thousand years. Robert took a really ethnocentric view of it. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.840 He made it about humans. But you kind of wonder, 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.159 especially in the five thousand year thing, like will we 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.800 just be like Earth is kind of played out. We're 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.359 gonna leave and there won't be anyone here, will be 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.440 on Mars or will be somewhere else, and the Earth 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.520 will just be like, Man, I'm glad I thought this 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.120 guys would never really rape and me while my junk. Yeah, 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.159 I believe so, man, do we need to talk about 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.919 actual procession? This is the one. Yeah, we kind of 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.520 do because this one if you ask me, fifty thou 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.440 years from now, No, humans won't be around. I don't 0:22:55.440 --> 0:23:02.720 think so. But we'll have either left or we will 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:07.560 have diverged so much from humans as we are now, 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.480 they we won't be around. And if we, if there 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:16.720 are like human descendants, uh, they will be at such 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.040 peace with the Earth that like we can talk about 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.120 it almost in its natural state of what it will 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.200 look like in fifty years. I'm going with the extinction 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:29.840 level event. Okay, but let's back up and talk about procession. 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.080 Do you understand this? Yeah? So basically, you know, the 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.919 Earth as it rotates around the sun, or as it 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.080 revolves around the sun, it also rotates spins on its axis, 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.920 the imaginary line that goes from the south pole in 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.000 the north pole. The thing is is it doesn't spin 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.200 in a perfect tight spiral. And we talked about this before. 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:55.680 It's not like a a patent manning throw. It's more 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.280 like a tim tebuff throw. It's got a little wobble 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.600 to it, you know what I mean. So at any 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:04.639 point in time, the Earth is wobbling between I think 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:12.320 twenty one two point one twenty two point one. Okay, 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:17.040 So if it's a twenty twenty two point one, it's 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.440 a lot closer to being vertical, perfectly vertical, which means 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.320 that there's a lot less difference in the seasons. If 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:27.200 it's over at a twenty four point five degree angle, 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.760 the seasons are so different that they could actually be 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.359 about lopsided from where they are now, where in the 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.359 northern hemisphere we would have um summer in the winter 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:40.800 and vice versa. Um. That's just that's just over like 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.640 a sixteen thousand year cycle, right. There's also something else 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:48.560 called um obliquity, which is a forty two thousand year 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.879 cycle UM, which is kind of like the the extreme 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.720 of procession. What does that mean? It's the same thing, 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.240 but it's over a longer period. That's the one with 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.240 the tilt, okay, where the toil goes fully back and forth. 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:06.480 Got you, and then you have eccentricity, And this one 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.600 is more about the revolution around the sun, right where 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.560 the orbit of Earth around the sun is it goes 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:20.000 over a I think in ninety two thousand year year 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:23.880 ninety seven thousand year cycle. It goes from a close 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:27.720