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Speaker 1: Soon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast, and I'll

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Speaker 1: get right to it. We're joined this week by Jaguars

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Speaker 1: nose tackle Devon Hamilton.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Interesting story with Devin, A scary story, a long story

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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that. But first of all, Devin, thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us.

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Speaker 3: You have no problem.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, people listening to this any Jaguars fans knows that

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Speaker 1: you had a back issue early in the season. You

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Speaker 1: haven't talked about that a whole lot as much as

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Speaker 1: you're comfortable with just sort of I guess, first, tell

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Speaker 1: me what it was, and.

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll go there first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a spinal abscess. I got kind of

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Speaker 3: formed up into my back and uh yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: a major infection.

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Speaker 2: And very much out of the blue. It was when

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Speaker 2: we were all Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just sort of came up quick and I

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Speaker 1: assume kind of a scary thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, A lot of stuff was going on,

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Speaker 3: a lot of side effects was going on. So I

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Speaker 3: was kind of just in the weird place. This isn't

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Speaker 3: really a normal illness people get or normal infection people

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Speaker 3: get so.

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Speaker 1: As a football player, you're used to fighting through stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's in your nature, but all of a sudden, this

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Speaker 1: is something that that's not an option, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very strange. Yeah, a lot of side effects.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, And if you're comfortable, how serious was

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Speaker 1: I mean my understanding is it was very serious. And

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Speaker 1: I assume you feel sort of fortunate right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I felt very fortunate. It was very serious. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff that really could have happened. I

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Speaker 3: could be not playing football right now permanently. So I'm

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Speaker 3: just blessed, incredibly blessed man to be back where I am.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just so thankful for the guys is supported

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Speaker 2: Tell me what you know.

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Speaker 1: Emotionally, obviously that's difficult. But when you sort of compounded

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Speaker 1: with it happening right when it did, which is right

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Speaker 1: at the start, you've geared up, you've just signed a contract,

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Speaker 1: you're a core guy. This happens right when you're gearing

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Speaker 1: up for that first season.

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Speaker 3: It was very It was unfortunate. You know, I would

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Speaker 3: rather been playing from the very beginning of the season

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Speaker 3: to now, and you know, working out through some things.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, this is Guy's way for me,

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Speaker 3: and you know I can't ask for any other way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how.

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Speaker 1: In terms of coming back, I came back earlier in

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Speaker 1: the season, I assume different even coming back from something

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Speaker 1: like that than coming back from an injury. You've probably

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Speaker 1: come back from hurts before. But how much different was

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Speaker 3: It was? It was very strange. It was kind of

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Speaker 1: There's right, the trainers can't go, hey, we've seen this before,

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Speaker 1: so here's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: It's very rare, not to me. People have had it,

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Speaker 3: so it's really I mean not to me regular you

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Speaker 3: just really really really strange as far as a recovery standpoint.

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Speaker 1: And what if they told you in terms I mean, uh,

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Speaker 1: I guess first avous question is how do you feel now?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like pre uh infection? Devon Hamilton?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel great. You know, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how much of a process is it when you've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely more of a process, especially from

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Speaker 2: And for people who don't understand.

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Speaker 1: NFL practice during the season is not game situation at all, right,

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Speaker 1: and so it makes it doubly tough. You can't, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so, because a lot of things are

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Speaker 1: How difficult is it as a player to sort of,

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Speaker 2: If that makes any sense. I'm saying that, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're part of it, but not part of it. That's

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Speaker 2: always tough in an injury situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very tough. Like I said, I've been

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Speaker 3: blessed with a support system around here, and you know,

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Speaker 3: my teammates really looked after me and during this time.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was really difficult for me just because

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Speaker 1: What's your attitude now? You know, I've talked to you

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Speaker 1: a little bit over the years. I've always a sense

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Speaker 1: that you were a guy who appreciated the opportunity. But

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Speaker 1: is that even more increased now that you know having

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Speaker 1: know that it could be savor in the moment every

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Speaker 3: I would say, you just being present every day is

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Speaker 3: It's pretty difficult for me.

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Speaker 1: And I forgive me twenty five years old, right, twenty six, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's not I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: Right now, I assume the Dodgers have told you, hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can say I should be the thing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I have my check ups here and there just to

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Speaker 1: Part, I'm done, fantastic, And I know everybody listening is

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Speaker 1: it is very happy to hear that first because this

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Speaker 1: was a scary situation. May even beyond what Devan's talking

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Speaker 1: you smiling not coming through that it is a very

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Speaker 1: positive thing. Tell me about the moment this off season

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Speaker 1: To tell me about that moment and sort of what

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Speaker 3: I've meant a lot, you know. I didn't really know

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Speaker 3: playing good. I've been working really hard to be the

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Speaker 3: especially after everything that's happened so far. And yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Now you smile when everything's happened so far. Some tough years.

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Speaker 1: The way you came in, How difficult was it to

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Speaker 1: develop when coaching changes, head coach coordinator changes, philosophy around you.

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Speaker 1: How did you manage to sort of stay focused? And

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Speaker 1: because you did improve from rookie second third, How are

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Speaker 3: You know, it's pretty difficult when things are changing constantly

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I have to do in order

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Speaker 3: what I have to do and more to improve every year,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's kind of a more of

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Speaker 1: You know, Right, it's tough talk about this year is

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Speaker 1: generally have a body of work yet you're still coming back.

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Speaker 1: But last year, clearly the level of play was high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the biggest difference? Was it? Maturity, growth,

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Speaker 3: I feel like stuff. Definitely maturity though, just understanding the game,

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Speaker 3: But also just physically being able to mature and whatnot

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Speaker 3: and sure get stronger, get more flexible and whatnot during

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Speaker 3: the off seasons really helped.

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Speaker 2: Me do people.

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Speaker 1: And I always enjoy talking to players about this because

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Speaker 1: to me, over the years, it's been one thing that

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Speaker 1: fans sometimes don't grasp is the difference between a twenty

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Speaker 1: just in terms of, you know, you have always been

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Speaker 1: a big, strong, physical guy. How much bigger, stronger physical

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Speaker 1: guy compared to a rookie. It's a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: It is a huge difference. But I mean, granted, I

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Speaker 3: mentally is I say, it's keeping you I know what

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Speaker 2: That can be everything. Yeah, half an inch.

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Speaker 3: I know how they're going to come down on this block.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know how to fit it and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: But there's a rookie you're kind of just kind of

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Speaker 3: figuring out who you know, what formation already in, you

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Speaker 3: that's kind of the main difference.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, when everybody's great and everybody's strong and physical.

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Speaker 2: Knowledge you're talking about is all the difference in the world. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got you.

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Speaker 1: Tell me a little about this team right now going

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Speaker 1: through some adversity. What are you sensing in terms of

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Speaker 3: Just keep on fighting, you know. I mean, we obviously

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Speaker 3: see any anybody's doubting or anything like that. It's just

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Speaker 1: Defensive line at times this year has been a major

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Speaker 3: We got to dominate. We gotta dominate the men in

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Speaker 2: Got you.

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Speaker 1: With Trevor uncertain this week and offense that will be challenged.

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Speaker 3: So we don't let them score at all, then we

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Speaker 1: From talking to you in the past and from watching it,

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Speaker 3: You can do. No, I feel like I still reaching

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Speaker 1: So, guys, in a sacks oriented world, when everybody you

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Speaker 2: How do you judge yourself just.

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Speaker 3: Based off what my teammates do around me? I mean,

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Speaker 3: be able to step up, that's right, all the all

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Speaker 3: the job in the world, and you know, as coaches

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Speaker 2: I got you, Yeah, now anything.

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Speaker 1: Won the last five games last year, the Jaguars did

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of how we look back at it.

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Speaker 1: Final thing we do here call it the ozone five.

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Speaker 1: It's just five quick fun questions. Have a little fun

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Speaker 1: after a long season, Right, So what was your last

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Speaker 1: binge watch?

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Speaker 3: Last binge watch? You know, I'm a big anime guy,

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Speaker 2: Now for non anime, which I am.

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Speaker 3: What is it? Yea, it is a pirate anime that

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Speaker 3: You know, people who know.

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Speaker 2: People who know. No, I got you. Last song you

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Speaker 3: Last song I listened. Actually I don't. I didn't listen

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Speaker 3: been listening to Aragon. That's kind of my favorite book

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Speaker 2: What was five year old Devon's go to movie.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go with Christmas Vacation, National Lampoon my

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Speaker 2: Movie five at five. Wow, that's it's high end stuff.

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Speaker 3: To non Christmas. I used to watch a lot of movies,

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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Best NFL moment.

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Speaker 3: Best NFL moment. Definitely winning our first playoff game last year.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha. That just that feeling and you can't replace it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't replace it all. I mean, that's really

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Speaker 1: So yeah, people are person most responsible for you being here.

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Speaker 3: Most responsible, I would have to say, God, He just

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Speaker 3: keeps on blessing me, keep on keeping me around and

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Speaker 3: blessing me with good health.

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Speaker 1: And I was on that subject and everybody listening wishes

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Speaker 1: you continued good health. I appreciate you coming here and

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Speaker 1: talking about that, and I certainly wish you left moving forward.

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Speaker 1: J Von Hamilton, thank you for doing of the other

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Speaker 1: Zone podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me