1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: What's up its way up with Angela. Ye oh, and 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited to talk about things like this. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: We have the stars of Reasonable Doubt here and Mayazi 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Carnaldi I did that good, okay? 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: And McKinley Freeman. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: He's He's like, did you go to any of the 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: restaurants I recommended in New Orleans? 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm such a creature a habit. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: Same. 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 11 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 4: By the way, he can't go wrong in New Orleans 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 4: with food generally, so. 13 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh, you know, you can go wrong anywhere with food. 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: But you guys are here for a Reasonable Doubt. And 15 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: season two just started on Hulu. I feel like I 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: the way that season one left off, I was like, 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: we have to see where this is about to go. 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to go home. And I guess 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: we can watch the first two episodes now and then 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: and then every week another episode. Yes, we're so used 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: to watching the whole thing at once nowadays. 22 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: It's something cool about waiting it is right, kind of 23 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: elongates the conversation exact. 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: But on the show, you guys are a married couple, 25 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: and I got so many questions because what's great about 26 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: the relationship. Now, Amazi, your character is based on Sean Holly, 27 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: who is you know, she's an attorney who started off 28 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: as a public defender. Yes she did, okay, and then 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: now she's working in private corporate And it was so 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: interesting in the show to see why she made that switch, 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to talk about that and 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: elaborate a little bit. 33 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Of sure, yeah, you know, well, Sean, you know, she 34 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: is a powerful, la based you know, defense attorney. She 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: is just who she is, right, and the show was 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: loosely based on her, and Jackson is loosely based on her. 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: And in the show, you know, Jacks kind of makes 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: that switch because she, you know, ends up taking on 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: a case that affects her to a degree to where 40 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I'm not sure I can keep 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: doing this right, And that gives her the power to 42 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: make the switch. 43 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, because a public defender, everybody always acts like, if 44 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: you get a public defender, it's over. 45 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: It's over. It's over, it's over, you know. And Jack's 46 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: from the beginning, she was always one who kind of 47 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: fights for her clients and it was becoming a bit 48 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: too much, so she had to make a change, all right. 49 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: And McKinley, you are her husband, on there, who also, 50 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: by the way, gave her an ultimatum because Jackson's character 51 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: is so wrapped up in her work, and you did 52 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: at one point say you know, you got to make 53 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: a decision. 54 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah you did. 55 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, these things happen, right, But I think 56 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: I think the bigger journey is like the decision on 57 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: the way to the bigger question is what is this? Right, 58 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: So it's like trying to figure out where they are 59 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: in this world on the heels of everything that happened 60 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 4: at the end of the first season and jumping right 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: back in where we left off and kind of figuring 62 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 4: out what the pieces are and what they may look 63 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 4: like put together or what that ultimately ultimately may be. So, yeah, 64 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: it's been it's been fun. I mean, Emiyatis as a 65 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: as a co star, someone I can trust, and we 66 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: kind of go places together as it relates to different 67 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: scenes and stuff. So I'm really curious to see how 68 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: how it all comes together and how fans react to it. 69 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I love about the show is is not 70 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: just about what's happened in the courtroom. Your relationship with 71 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: each other also is front and center. Yep, Because a 72 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: lot of times your work does affect what goes on 73 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: at home. And I'm sure for both of you working 74 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: as hard as you do and having long days and 75 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: having to be at work that does affect a relationship. 76 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: It does. And you know, that's one of the things 77 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: I love about our show and the world that ram 78 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: La Muhammad has created she's the showrunner, is that though 79 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: it's a legal show, you know, it's really not. This 80 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: is a character driven show that's really about the lives 81 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 3: of these people, the inner lives, and you really get 82 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: to see what marriage looks like, you know, with this 83 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: with this black couple you know, who are successful, have children, 84 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. You get to see all 85 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: the inner workings of that and that's not something we 86 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: really have you know on TV right now, you know, 87 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: from a very positive, strong point of view, and that's 88 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: what the show represents. 89 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: And to Amiati's point, it's also this is a very 90 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: family that's doing pretty well, Like they both have really 91 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: good jobs, They've got kids that seem to have it 92 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: relatively together, which I think is winning in twenty twenty four. Yeah, 93 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: So like on top of those things, still is still 94 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: very much the reality of you know, the issues that 95 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: perhaps play plenty of relationships, but these are a little 96 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: bit more extreme. So it's really like, how do we 97 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: what is this and how do we move forward? If 98 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: we can? 99 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: Now your character is a video game developer? Is that 100 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: corect correct? Yeah? 101 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: And you also have cameras all over the house talk 102 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: about it? Yeah, I listen. I've always learned not to 103 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: put cameras inside the house because anybody could hack those. 104 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's a whole situation, and you might end 105 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: up seeing something. 106 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: Or or what or that might have been part of 107 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: the plan. I mean it could have been. Uh. I 108 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: guess we'll find out soon enough, but I mean that 109 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: that was I will say when I read that season one, 110 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: I literally like, Ramla, right, Rama, what's going on? 111 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: And listen since it's not really a spoiler because season 112 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: one already aired and we're getting ready for season two. 113 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, you do end up seeing Jack's getting it 114 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: in with somebody you hired as security to be in 115 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: the house, but you still want to be with her. Yeah, 116 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: and normally that's not But I will say, in real 117 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: life that does happen, but people act like it doesn't. 118 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 119 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: It's like, guys will be like, oh, because y'all are 120 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: separated just for people listening, and you live in different homes, 121 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: but you're still trying to figure out and you're going 122 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: to be together. 123 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: That's not act like people don't play the separation grey 124 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: area either. That's a whole other conversation. 125 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: We're on a break right now, exactly like where's your husband? Yeah, 126 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: we're on a break, but y'all do still get it 127 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: in together. But can you imagine getting back together after 128 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: you've done seeing somebody who. 129 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: You paid to protect? 130 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: That that's that's kind of like the disrespect though, because he. 131 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: Was disrespect from on Jack's side in terms of doing it. 132 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about for the security. 133 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: What what? What? 134 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: What a minute? 135 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: How is it not disrespect on Jack side for doing it? 136 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: Didn't she? So we just we just woman, That's what 137 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: I mean. Now, Hold on a second. No wait, no, no, no, 138 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: hold on a second, Hold on a second. 139 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: And to protect your family, come home late at night, 140 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: late at night, like then come on a house. 141 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: So why why why be a husband that works late 142 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: that wants to make sure his wife's protected, that's taking 143 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: high profile cases that might be stalked by folks whatever 144 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: they case in the house. 145 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: You stay in the house, you want to stay house. 146 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: You can't do that at that But anyway, this is 147 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: the thing, right yeah, yeah, no, for sure, for sure 148 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: we'd be having debates. 149 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: I must do you guys add lib you know from 150 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: the script, because I'm sure there's ways that you look 151 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: at it, like this is how we react there, you know. 152 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: There's a little bit of that. But I will say 153 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: what Ramla writes. Really it just stands. It's so good 154 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: that you don't really need to add too much to 155 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: it there when we do find things that just don't 156 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: click or what have you. She gives us the freedom 157 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: for sure to figure it out within there. But you 158 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: know it doesn't require much in that area. 159 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: And the black writing stat right right, that's amazing and direct. 160 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: And the great thing about that is that it definitely 161 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: anchors us in the right locations. And then from there 162 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: they trust us to be able to collaborate there. And 163 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: I think that's where you know, when two people show 164 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: up prepared and provide a room for magic happ and 165 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 4: hopefully that's I know Emmayatzi brought us. So at the 166 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: end of the day, let's get ready to see a 167 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: super exciting season for sure. 168 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 2: Well what is the balance like with work and home life? 169 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: Though? 170 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: Because while you are trying to be successful, you do 171 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: have to sometimes sacrifice right at home. 172 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: So where does it stops? 173 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: That's what I really want to talk about, because that 174 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: is I feel like an overarching theme of the show. 175 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: When do you say, okay, let me take it? Cause 176 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: you could be laying in the bed with somebody and 177 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: then you get a phone call. You're like, sorry, I 178 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: got to take this call up. You know, right, thing's 179 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: going on. It's kind of like what you signed up for. 180 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: But then it's also like, okay, when am I a priority? 181 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, you know, for me, I think it's there 182 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: are boundaries that I think you have to set in 183 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: place from the jump. You know. The way that I 184 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: relate to Jacks is you know, she's married, has children, 185 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: you know, and it's for me it's the same thing. 186 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: But it's about those boundaries. Like a perfect example, I mean, 187 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: even in just doing all the press that we're doing 188 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: for the show right now, you know, there was one 189 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: event that happened to happen, but it was my daughter's 190 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: first year of school and I wasn't gonna miss it, 191 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: you know, And so I got with my team and 192 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: they made sure to rearrange things so that I didn't 193 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: because that was important to me. It was either going 194 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: to be that or or the press, and it would 195 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: have been the press. So thankfully they worked it out, 196 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: you know. 197 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: What I mean. 198 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: So it's about just having having the boundaries and that 199 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: kind of thing. I think that's that's what works for me, 200 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: knowing how far I'm willing to go and knowing what's 201 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: really important because. 202 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: You can't go turn back the hands of time. And 203 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: you also don't know how that affects kids too. Like 204 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: she might be like it's okay, man, you can, but 205 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: then also really be like I wish my mom was 206 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: here right right, right, all right. So now let's get 207 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: into season two. That's just premiering. We saw how season 208 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: one ended. I have to say, Jack's your friendship, you know, 209 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: with your with your inner circle of homegirls. 210 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're not the best friend either. 211 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: I mean judgment right there. 212 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: It's something that I feel like I have to work 213 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: on too, though. Yeah, because we can get very caught 214 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: up in our lives and be a little selfish. That's 215 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: McKinley's You can be a little selfish and feel like, 216 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: let me take care of me first and my problems first, 217 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: and kind of like, Okay, I need this, I need that, 218 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: and not even think about how somebody else is affected. 219 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: And that's what Jacks realizes in this season, especially with 220 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: her friendship with Chanelle. She realizes, Oh, there was a 221 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: big blind spot there that I did not see. How 222 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: did I allow that to happen? You know, I wasn't 223 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: as president in my friendship as I thought I was, 224 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: even though She's been trying to tell you know, Jack's 225 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: for the longest, but she just didn't hear it. So 226 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: it took something, as you know, drastic and traumatic as 227 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: to happen for her to realize, maybe I haven't been 228 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: the best friend that I thought i'd been being. 229 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: And domestic violence is taking center stage at this next season, 230 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: and that's a topic that I think a lot of 231 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: people can relate to, unfortunately and have had to deal with. 232 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: And so even being on set, what was that like 233 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: for you guys, because it is something that can be 234 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: triggering for people who are even working. 235 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: I think in Emiata, I mean you can speak to 236 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: this just as much as was I think a lot 237 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: of it was the amazing job, job that the producers 238 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 4: in the network didn't making sure that people felt supported 239 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 4: while we were going through this, making sure they are 240 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 4: the right counselors and people to talk to, because as 241 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: you said, you know, this might be something that's being 242 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: worked on at work, but somebody might actually be going 243 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: home to these situations. So giving honor to those situations 244 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: and shout out to Shannon and Christopher and Christopher for 245 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: the amazing job that they did because we're asked. They 246 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: were asked to do a really, really tough thing this season, 247 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: and I think as it unfolds, I think people are 248 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: really going to be impressed with how talented they are 249 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: as actors and actresses. 250 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: And rama, I mean everyone. They made sure to have 251 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: all the resources available, you know, the numbers to the 252 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: National Domestic Violence Hotline on every call sheet, at every 253 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: every turn, you know, so they really took it seriously 254 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: as we all should. 255 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, because these are stories they really do here every day. 256 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: You know. 257 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I saw just basically a woman who who killed the 258 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: man that like secually that trafficked her and she's going 259 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: to jail for that, you know, and it's just kind 260 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: of I think it's harder for I know that they 261 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: always talk about like when women, they'll say it's premeditated 262 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: if something happens because we don't have the power and 263 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: shand I mean, this is a you know, a job 264 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: for Jax, right right, playing better. But did you learn 265 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot about the law while doing the show. I 266 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: have to imagine you did, because even when I'm watching it, 267 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm learning things. 268 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: Definitely, you know. And that was one of the things 269 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: I in conversations I would have with Sean Holly before 270 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: we started filming anything. I got to sit with her 271 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: and just kind of pick her brain just to understand 272 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: how she works, you know, as a lawyer. And then 273 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: doing a lot of my own research and seeing these 274 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: scripts and seeing terms and things that I'm not familiar 275 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: with and really digging into it and finding out what 276 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: it would have mean. So I really did throw myself 277 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: into the whole, you know, world of law to make 278 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: sure I was verse in it to understand the script. 279 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Sean Holly was on the O. J. Simpson, 280 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the dream Team. She's part of that Will John and Cochrane, 281 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: to be clear. And so when you watch this first season, 282 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: it's a little ironic. It's kind of like, I don't 283 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: even want to Okay, you gotta, you know, because at 284 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day, like you, if you reper 285 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: he's and somebody as an attorney, even if they did 286 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: or didn't do it, you're still doing your job. And 287 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: it's not about whether or not you think that they 288 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: did it or believe that they did it. It's about 289 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: what can be proven, you know. So that's why I 290 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: say it's a little ironic because with O. J. Simpson, 291 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: that's something there's a billion documentaries, so many different people 292 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: speaking their at peace, and you know, definitely people are 293 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: still like, he did it. He was going to do 294 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: a book if I did it right, right, which is wild, 295 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, right. 296 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: And that's where that's where Sean lives in her real 297 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: life work. It's you know she does it's about the law, 298 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: what can be proven, this is this is, this is 299 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: what we're going to do. And some people don't like 300 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: her approach, you know, may feel some type of way 301 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: about who she chooses to represent, but she focuses on 302 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: what is the law right? 303 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: And I actually just a piggyback that that actually just 304 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: shows you how brilliant a job Raba Muhammad did was 305 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: taking a world that requires so much specifics and rules 306 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: and regulations and flipping it on its head in the 307 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 4: world that doesn't happen in the reality that doesn't have it, 308 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: and it's like, how do you how do you reconcile man? 309 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: The writing was so good. I was like, he's innocent, 310 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: I believe in him. Leave him alone. 311 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: But you know, and there's a lot of little settle 312 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: things that happened, like being a black woman and coming 313 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: into the room. People want to be represented by a 314 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: white by a white male attorney a lot of times, 315 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: and they don't believe that they'll see you and automatically 316 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: think she can't handle. 317 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: This exactly, which is what it was in the first season. 318 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: You know, we have this this black client, Brandon Miller 319 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: played by Sean Pastor Thomas, and and he comes in, 320 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: you know, and Jackson's thinking, okay, you know, he I 321 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 3: know what it is, and he is taken aback by 322 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: the fact that it's her, you know, and she and 323 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: she feels that, you know what I mean. So the 324 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: show really touches on all of those kinds of things, 325 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, all of the different you know, prejudices and 326 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: things like that that we have. 327 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: How was it for you guys, like look, I saw 328 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: you in one one movie that I love, The Invitation. 329 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: Oh, that's one of my favorite movies. 330 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: I really enjoy that way. I'm not gonna lie and 331 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: for you McKinley doing Queen Sugar. Just seeing you guys, 332 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, coming together and doing this, which shows that 333 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: I and a movie that I absolutely loved. It was 334 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: really nice to see you tube pair together. But like 335 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: I got to ask you about what it was like 336 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: for you filming The Invitation also, that. 337 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: Was so much fun. It's really one of my favorite 338 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: experiences because it almost felt like a like a throwback 339 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: to theater. We were all together in this house, you know, 340 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: for really the duration of filming, you know, barely seeing outside. 341 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: It felt like at times, you know, to really make 342 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: this thriller. The Invitation was this thriller film, So it 343 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: really was a lot of fun. It was directed by 344 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: a woman, Karen Cosuma, and it was just really a 345 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: great experience. 346 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: Did you have nightmares at all after that? 347 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: I was, you know, surprisingly I didn't. As much as 348 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: I'm afraid of like thrillers and stuff. I was like, oh, 349 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm not as scared as I thought I was gonna 350 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: be going home anyway, and McKinley. 351 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Do you love series work more than movies? 352 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: I love work, so series work, whatever the work, I think, 353 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: web series, whatever it is on the show with the 354 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: same kind of I'm gonna show with the same time 355 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: of focus. Listen, you get one shot at this, so 356 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: I'm about it. 357 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, your background is so interesting to me because 358 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: you actually started off in soap operas. 359 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: I did. I did. I started off. I did start 360 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: off in soaps. That was kind of my intro to 361 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: the business. And before that I hadn't taken an acting 362 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: class or anything like that. I actually was bored working 363 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: for a corporation, was top fortune five company, and then 364 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, me. 365 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: What made you decide to just go do an audition? 366 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: I was bored. I was bored. I was like, I 367 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: won't say I was bored. I was maybe. I was 368 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: a little deterred because I worked so hard to get this, 369 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: you know, not just a promotion, but like this the 370 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: bonus and I didn't get it. And I didn't. I 371 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: did less work than next year and got bonus. I 372 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: was like, so then once it started, I was like, well, no, 373 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: So once I started doing the soaps, I was wondering. 374 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: I was like, I wonder what would happen if I 375 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: actually applied myself. So I was like, why not, you know, 376 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: I'm sitting here where we go. 377 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: It's just interesting to see the journey too. About that. 378 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: You never would have pictured that, it would have you know, 379 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: gone this far. 380 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, my biggest thing at the time was Martin 381 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: Luther King said the two greatest word, the two most 382 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: powerful words in the English language are too late. So 383 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: I didn't want to get down the road in my 384 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: own life and look back and be like, man, I 385 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: wish I would have tried by now it's too late. 386 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: I wish I had done this. So now I'm just 387 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: like I would failure as an outcome, And I think 388 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: outcomes are disconnected from the choices that we make. Sometimes 389 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: they have nothing to do with us. So a lot 390 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: of it is just dedicating myself to the process and 391 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: let the chips fall where they fall. 392 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: How is it when you work so long with somebody, 393 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: like on a series, and then it has to end. 394 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: It's like a family and. 395 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, oh, we gotta you know, when 396 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: a series comes to an end, even though you had 397 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: a nice because you had such a long run, it 398 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: was really like we got so accustomed and used to 399 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: each other. 400 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's the thing about I mean, 401 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: even this season, hopefully people will see that we've had 402 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: a season like Rama always says, season one, you're introducing 403 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: characters and you're introducing to the world. And season two, 404 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: hopefully people feel from episode one of the second season that, 405 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: oh we are we are hitting the ground running with 406 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: these with these characters that we know at some level 407 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 4: and the challenges that they have. And I think again, 408 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: like when you have a co star like Amiati who's 409 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: like beyond phenomenal, it definitely makes the work easy. 410 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: Is just wonderful. 411 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: No, it's just it's just you need to get my 412 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: venmo right, got it, got it? 413 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: And it is like a family though, it really is. 414 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: And so when it ends, you're like, oh man, I'm 415 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: going to miss you, you know for sure. 416 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 4: And there are places that we've been asked to go 417 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: this season that require a lot of trust. And I 418 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: think that's that's been the foundation from the very beginning 419 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 4: between two of us and I told you know, we 420 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: found out that we part of the season shot in 421 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: Atlanta and then we shot some of it in La 422 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 4: But I told was like, listen, as long as you 423 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: show up, we're gonna be all right. I got your back. 424 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: And it's been like that since day one. 425 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: So what days have like, what are some things that 426 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: have been really emotional for you while filming this because 427 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: I have to imagine this season it's a lot more emotional. 428 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: You don't want to know what you want to know 429 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: what was fun? What was fun as people kind of 430 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: seeing the first episode is we start talking about there's 431 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 4: this conversation about therapy that was introduced in the first season, 432 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: where we kind of start seeing pieces of that in 433 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 4: the second season. I think that's a whole conversation in 434 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: itself about the need to perhaps have somebody that's disconnected 435 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 4: from the two people, to have an honest ear and voice, 436 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 4: and to call people out and to listen and stuff 437 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: like that. So just exploring those different things that I 438 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: think is really interesting when we start talking about the 439 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: dynamics of relationships. For sure. 440 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the therapy, the therapy work was a lot of fun. 441 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, it was good. 442 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: And you had Michael Ali on season one, Morris Chestnut 443 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: now is on the season two. 444 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: You guys got the legends. 445 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we've winning over here. 446 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that Lewis and jack should end up together? 447 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean in real life, like if you were removing 448 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: yourself from us, from what you know of the two 449 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: of them, do you think that they because you know, 450 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: a lot of times people will talk about their issues 451 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: with their significant other and if you put it on 452 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: paper like Okay, she you know Jackson's doing this, she doesn't. 453 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: Mess with this guy. 454 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: This guy and even though they're still married, because you know, 455 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: being separated and sleeping with other people, you know, some 456 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: people would feel like that's we're not completely divorced and 457 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: we're trying to work it out. And I don't know 458 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: what Lewis be doing, Like, I don't know if he's 459 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: doing anything. 460 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 461 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just a nice guy, right if he 462 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 3: were with that change anything, I don't know. 463 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: As a viewer, I'm asking what you guys though, think. 464 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: Yourself from this, Like, Okay, McKinley, for you with Lewis's character, right, 465 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: could you see if your homeboy came to you and 466 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: was like, you know, this is what happened, and you 467 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: know my wife Jacks were separated, but she did this. 468 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: I saw it on the. 469 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: Camera and I mean, I would probably have a lot 470 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: of the same questions that the audience has, like why 471 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: are you watching on the camera? What's that about? But 472 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: you know, I think the advice would be like I 473 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: think the big thing is always understanding the situations and circumstance. 474 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: But I would definitely be honest like bruh, remember that 475 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: she made a choice to step out on a commitment 476 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: that you guys may do each other blah blah blah. 477 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like the greatest thing 478 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: I think it's to remember about advice is that when 479 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: people get done talking, they go home, right, and you 480 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: got to stand there in the in the depth of 481 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 4: your own choices and live with it. 482 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: So we can always say what we would do, but 483 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: until you get into a situation, you don't know what's 484 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: going to happen. 485 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 4: And then even the stuff that we say we would 486 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: do it gets challenged and maybe tossed out the window 487 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: before the thing that's necessary. So I think that's a 488 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 4: lot of it's about what's worth fighting for and what 489 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: are you willing I mean. 490 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: Especially when it comes to marriage, And this is why 491 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 3: you shouldn't idolize somebody else's marriage or judge on the 492 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: people's marriage. You don't do it because you do not 493 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: know what people have going on. 494 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: Some of the old couple goes, a couple goes are 495 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: like recent hashtags. So it's like sometimes you got to 496 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: look in the mirror that it be like what is 497 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 4: it that I want? 498 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: Right? I mean, you can look at a couple like 499 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: Jackson Lewis and think like you're saying, you know what 500 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: they need to just maybe they don't need to do 501 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: this what have you. But but you don't know what's 502 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: going on in the in the depths of their of 503 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 3: their relationship and their marriage, you know what I mean. 504 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't personally say, Okay, no, they need to 505 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: they need to separate them. Mean, there's a reason, you know, 506 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: she's not sleeping with the security guard and looking at 507 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: the camera just for her own good. She knows there's something. 508 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: There's something there, you know there. It wasn't I was doing. 509 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: It for the good of the marriage. 510 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to get you back. Let's go back 511 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: in the house. 512 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 4: You know. 513 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: So you just don't know what people have going on. 514 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't say that. I would say, y'all made 515 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: this commendment, You're in it, y'all got to figure it out. 516 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: What about a former clients? The former client. 517 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: You asked the hard question, you know, what about that? 518 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: There's the thing it wasn't It was a mistake. Yes, 519 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 3: it was a mistake. So it's been great to meet you. 520 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: Yes, a mistake. 521 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: And the way that happened, you know what I'm. 522 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: It's such a murky what it is. 523 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 1: It is if there's no rules on what canon can 524 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: happen during a separation, it's hard to say what's what 525 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: you can and can't. 526 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: That's and they're in a real separation. They are not 527 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: in the house. She's asking him to come back, he 528 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: refuses to come back, you know what I mean. So 529 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: it's like it's it's a great game. 530 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 4: Okay, what's the minute? 531 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: I just harauma right, No, but it is I think, 532 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, it is an interesting situation because even when 533 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm watching it, I'm like, oh, I don't know. But 534 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: that's a good thing because this does initiate conversations, you know, 535 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: for people, because it's not just about the. 536 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: Legal aspect of the show. It's everything it really is, and. 537 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: It is those conversations. So I get calls from my boys, 538 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: I got a cousin on the South Side Chicago that'll 539 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: call me like, bro, are you for real? What is 540 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 4: going on? But it's that thing though, where it's like 541 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: it's brothers and sister stopped me at t s say 542 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: or wherever, being like man, you keep your head up 543 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: Lewis and be like my sorry, yeah, but it's cool 544 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: to it's cool to like be part of something that 545 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: are provoking and having those k conversations because you just 546 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: never know what people are going through. 547 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: He's very demure. That's the word. 548 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: Everybody dem all right, And lastly, I just want to 549 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: ask you know, as we're getting ready for for this 550 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: next season to play out, hasn't been renewed for our 551 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: season three already? 552 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Well, we don't know yet. 553 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: I feel like it will know. 554 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: We don't know yet. We shall see, We shall see. 555 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: From your lips, guys. 556 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, Well listen you guys. 557 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: You know I'm tuned in, as you can see, I'm watching. 558 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: I cannot wait. As a matter of fact, right when 559 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: we leave here, I'm going home to watch the first 560 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: two episodes. 561 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: So we're gonna need to come back and do the cap. 562 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: I got to see what's happening. 563 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: I might need to, like have you call in or something, right, 564 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like there's a lot of good topics 565 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: I could pull for way up just for the show, sure, 566 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: aside from every thing else. All Right, all right, you're 567 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: not going to get it in with Morris Chestnut, are you. 568 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying nothing. You got to watch the show 569 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: to see. 570 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: What happened, That is an answer. It's gonna be fun though, 571 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: for sure. For the fans that waited, it's definitely going 572 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 4: to be worth the wait. And I mean, like, if 573 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: you're a fan of Amat, like book your seatbelts. 574 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: How many people have hit you up, like young black 575 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: girls like I'm going to be an attorney now because 576 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: I can see that happening. 577 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: So many My cousin, she works at a correctional facility 578 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: and she has someone who worked with her and kept saying, 579 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 3: oh my god, I love that show. I love the show. 580 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: I love your cousin. I am going back to school 581 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: to be a lawyer because of that show, Like it 582 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: really inspired me, you know, And so I got to 583 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: talk to her and it just the fact that that 584 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: is what's happening is really wonderful, you know what I mean. 585 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: The fact that the show could could incite that kind 586 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 3: of reaction from people, is the real gift? 587 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, because it's quite Listen, you are quite glamorous 588 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 1: and amazing on there, so thank you, so I appreciate that. 589 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: All right, well, it's way up A reason about that. 590 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Make sure y'all check it out on Hulu every Thursday 591 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: day night is AWO. 592 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: Episode today that I think every week of Thursday. 593 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, all right, perfect, check it out. It's way up, 594 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: way up.