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Speaker 1: couple of days, we saw the Browns beating the Bengals
Speaker 1: last we probably worn ourselves out with the Week one
Speaker 1: NFL overreactions. So Week two is arriving just in time
Speaker 1: so we can overreact to that. And I get it.
Speaker 1: It's a big week because we've all seen those numbers.
Speaker 1: You go back to nineteen ninety only twelve percent of
Speaker 1: teams that start out oh and two have reached the postseason.
Speaker 1: But they are adding another playoff team in each conference,
Speaker 1: so you can throw that stat out the window. No preseason,
Speaker 1: limited training camp, and teams are going to change right
Speaker 1: in front of our eyes. Bill Belichick used to use
Speaker 1: the first and probably still does the first month of
Speaker 1: the season as his preseason. He had a better idea
Speaker 1: after that first month of what kind of team he had.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's going to look a whole lot different by
Speaker 1: week eight, Gardner Minshew's not going to complete ninety five
Speaker 1: percent of his passes for Jacksonville. At some point, se
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley may get a few rushing yards. And I
Speaker 1: know whatever happens on Sunday will see monumental. Never mind
Speaker 1: the fact that seven days later there will be a
Speaker 1: new slate of games to overhype. If the Browns had
Speaker 1: lost last night, what would we be saying? We would
Speaker 1: be crushing them? Baker Mayfield, Odell Beckham can't live up
Speaker 1: to the hype. But they won last night, So is
Speaker 1: everything okay? Everything's good with Odell Beckham Junior. You know
Speaker 1: you don't have to trade him right now? What happens
Speaker 1: the following week. If they happen to lose, then Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield can't play the position. Odell Beckham Junior should be traded.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be week to week? It's no surprise.
Speaker 1: It's no secret the Browns need to run the football.
Speaker 1: You have some really good offensive lineman. I want to
Speaker 1: take pressure off Baker Mayfield. He only threw sixteen passes
Speaker 1: last night. But what did you do? You gave it
Speaker 1: to your all pro running backs Nick Chubb and you know,
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. I mean, these guys are really good, and therefore,
Speaker 1: I don't put Baker in a position where he's got
Speaker 1: to win a game. I don't want him to lose
Speaker 1: a game. They average six yards to carry. Now, granted
Speaker 1: it's the Bengals that's not a good defense, but the
Speaker 1: Browns one. So we can put that off to the
Speaker 1: side just for a moment. It's like, if the Packers
Speaker 1: would lose to the Lions this weekend, now what happens.
Speaker 1: Everything was great Week one. If they lose to the Lions,
Speaker 1: then what do we say, oh, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, keep
Speaker 1: in mind, you've had people now come out and said, hey,
Speaker 1: the Packers did the right thing. They drafted a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and now Aaron is angry. He's got a chip on
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Will He's still be angry. I have a
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder if they lose. But that's what
Speaker 1: happens week to week. Cam Newton Patriots, everything's great, Go
Speaker 1: to Seattle. What if he does a couple interceptions, fumbles
Speaker 1: a couple of times, doesn't gain a lot of yards
Speaker 1: rushing Ben One Ravens. What if the Ravens lose to Houston.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not as good as last year. Oh themar
Speaker 1: jack and still learning the position? Like this is what happens.
Speaker 1: It's week to week where we look at a storyline
Speaker 1: and then we want to beach over the head with
Speaker 1: that storyline. The Browns are in disarray. This is trouble.
Speaker 1: You gotta get rid of Odell Beckham junior. Kevin Stefanski
Speaker 1: could be over his head as the head coach there. Okay,
Speaker 1: they looked okay last night. They gotta win and I'm
Speaker 1: not giving out style points. I just want you to win.
Speaker 1: And if you're a Cleveland Browns fan, you'll take what
Speaker 1: you saw last night. Joe Burrow made an interesting last night.
Speaker 1: When you throw sixty one times, no interceptions, but there
Speaker 1: should be a lot of excitement around him. But you're
Speaker 1: throwing a lot of passes, which means you're probably losing.
Speaker 1: Since nineteen seventy, teams are twenty three, forty nine and
Speaker 1: one when their quarterback completes at least thirty seven passes. Now,
Speaker 1: you're not throwing that much unless you're losing. The winning
Speaker 1: quarterback last night, Mayfield completed sixteen passes. The Bengals are
Speaker 1: going to be bad. Joe Burrow is good, and Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow looks like he has all the elements of being
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. If I said to a Browns fan today,
Speaker 1: would you trade for Joe Burrow? You do it in
Speaker 1: a second. But it's because of the unknown with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: You've seen enough of Baker Mayfield and you're not quite
Speaker 1: sure what you have there with Joe Burrow. Looks like
Speaker 1: the real deal, and he's got composure. He's still like.
Speaker 1: His approach last night was if as if he had
Speaker 1: the LSU talent around him, even though he didn't. Aj
Speaker 1: Green mcclovitt, I don't know how that's gonna go, Probably
Speaker 1: not gonna go well, wow, because he misses his guy.
Speaker 1: The red rifle kn't catch as Joe Burrow passes. Oh
Speaker 1: so if Andy Dalton was there, then AJ Green would
Speaker 1: have shown up. Yeah, there's something about on AJ Greeder
Speaker 1: magic and not so much Burrow. This program brought to
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Speaker 1: for me? Yeah, we have a couple of pole questions,
Speaker 1: a couple of O'Dell pole questions. Oh no, sorry, let's
Speaker 1: start with the Baker Mayfield question. All right, let's hear
Speaker 1: from Baker Mayfield on last night's game, the victory over
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Any time you can execute those first fifteen
Speaker 1: plays that you have and you practice over and over again,
Speaker 1: it feels great. You know, able to establish a run game,
Speaker 1: able to get completions, like I said after the Baltimore game,
Speaker 1: just getting the ball in their hands, letting them do
Speaker 1: the work. You know, obviously it's surrounded by talent, so
Speaker 1: make sure we're taking care of that yeah, and Odell
Speaker 1: got a touchdown, so everything is good. He got some
Speaker 1: early targets here, which I said yesterday. Just get him involved,
Speaker 1: put the ball in his hands. See what you get.
Speaker 1: He's still explosive. I don't want to cater to him,
Speaker 1: but I do want to get him involved early because
Speaker 1: it feels like he could sulk a little bit. He could,
Speaker 1: you know, go into hiding a little bit. But they
Speaker 1: got him the ball, they ran the football, they got
Speaker 1: the win the Bengals with a backdoor cover there. See,
Speaker 1: that's why. That's that's the classic example of why I
Speaker 1: don't bet. Imagine staying up until the very end, and
Speaker 1: you know the line is six, and you got the
Speaker 1: Bengals or you're giving six. You're you got the Browns
Speaker 1: and the and you got the under. So you take
Speaker 1: the Browns and the under and you lose. As Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow backdoor cover Burrow. Um, here is Joe. After last
Speaker 1: night's lost. This might be the only time in my
Speaker 1: sporting career that I've lost two games in a row.
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel very good. I know the guys in there hurting.
Speaker 1: We're going to come back to work tomorrow and try
Speaker 1: to get this thing right. You know, losing is unacceptable
Speaker 1: to me, to everybody in there, to coach Taylor, to
Speaker 1: to everybody in this organization. So we're just gonna have
Speaker 1: to get fixed. I like what I see. They're not
Speaker 1: a good team and they're not going to be a
Speaker 1: good team for a while. This is where you're really
Speaker 1: going to have to be smart when you're drafting offensive
Speaker 1: lineman to protect Joe Burrow. And I had a scout
Speaker 1: yesterday tell me it is so hard to be able
Speaker 1: to determine who's going to be a good offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: And my source said, look, we can look at quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: running backs, wide receivers and have a better chance at
Speaker 1: looking at somebody who will be successful because of the
Speaker 1: blocking schemes in college. It's completely different in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Although I will say what you saw with the Bengals
Speaker 1: is what I saw with Carolina. With Cam Newton came in,
Speaker 1: Carolina was smart enough to go, let's bring in Auburn's
Speaker 1: offense to make this easier the transition for Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: And you saw that with the Bengals. They're trying to
Speaker 1: run LSU's offense. The only problem is you don't have
Speaker 1: LSU's talent. There certainly at the wide receiving position. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. But yeah, bringing in that quarterback
Speaker 1: and that system, I think you're seeing that with You're
Speaker 1: seeing that more and more Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes, You're
Speaker 1: seeing that Lamar Jackson. You're seeing that the team is
Speaker 1: adapting to the quarterback you're bringing in instead of the
Speaker 1: other way around. Yes, Bolly, I was looking at that
Speaker 1: cover you talked about with the Bengals. The Bengals had
Speaker 1: the ball and they went on a sixteen play seventy
Speaker 1: five yard drived late in the game. They converted two
Speaker 1: fourth downs to get that covering touchdown. If you have
Speaker 1: oh man, that's a toughie. And then you stay up
Speaker 1: till the very end. Imagine going to bed. So the
Speaker 1: game ends and you lose, you lose both ways. Try
Speaker 1: to get to bed. You know, Burrow got sacked three times,
Speaker 1: he got hit a lot. The Bengals didn't put a
Speaker 1: glove on Baker Mayfield. But that's a good offensive line.
Speaker 1: You spend a high draft pick and then you brought
Speaker 1: in Conklin as well. You know, that should be a
Speaker 1: really good offensive line. That offense should be unstoppable. When
Speaker 1: you think about it, good tight end, two good wide receivers,
Speaker 1: two good running backs, a couple of good offensive linemen,
Speaker 1: and it's up to Baker Mayfield to orchestrate this. Really,
Speaker 1: it's up to the head coach, Kevin Stefanski. Run the
Speaker 1: football and that's what he's known for. You're going to
Speaker 1: run the football, and then I'm gonna have Baker just
Speaker 1: compliment with his passing. Yes, Levin, are we in danger
Speaker 1: of doing the same thing? Like the Browns lost to
Speaker 1: a dominant Ravens team and we wrote them off. Are
Speaker 1: we going to overestimate them because the Bengals defense has
Speaker 1: been historically bad? Yes, In fact, we talked about that
Speaker 1: before the show. They lose a game they're supposed to lose,
Speaker 1: and then they win a game they're supposed to win.
Speaker 1: So if the Buccaneers win this week against Carolina, is everything? Okay?
Speaker 1: Is the relationship between Bruce arians and Tom Brady? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm to think of it. They better win that game.
Speaker 1: If they don't, then we have an issue there. Yes. Also,
Speaker 1: the Bengals have a rookie quarterback on four days of
Speaker 1: practice and scored thirty points in the Brown Yeah, are
Speaker 1: you worried about the deal a little bit. Yes, I
Speaker 1: was talking to somebody yesterday, Bernie Kosar, former Brown's quarterback.
Speaker 1: He works for the Browns, and he said, hey, what
Speaker 1: are you thinking? He goes, Ah, I'm worry about our
Speaker 1: defense here, and they have two good defensive players and
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett Denzel Ward. It's just I don't think the
Speaker 1: other nine guys are very good. And you saw that
Speaker 1: last night. You can't have a rookie in his second
Speaker 1: game with three days to prepare for you and he
Speaker 1: lights you up. Now, I threw sixty one times three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but he did not get picked off. That would be
Speaker 1: a big concern for me. Imagine if you're facing a
Speaker 1: really good quarterback, experienced quarterback. What other possible pull questions? Okay,
Speaker 1: so here the two Browns related pull questions for Poulie.
Speaker 1: Who would you want as your team's QB? Long term?
Speaker 1: Baker mayfielder Joe Burrow? Have we seen enough of Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: So if I could go, let me snap my fingers
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrows my quarterback in Cleveland? Yep? I do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would do that. Wow, Well, like he wins a
Speaker 1: pole eighty Twitter here's my concern though. I don't know
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's mindset right now because he's very cocky and
Speaker 1: very confident. But then it felt like, you know, he
Speaker 1: got his legs cut out from under him last year
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know. There's just Burrow goes to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and you think that he thinks
Speaker 1: he's going to do something great. Every single time. Baker,
Speaker 1: I think, puts that that front on, like this is
Speaker 1: how I'm supposed to act. Remember he said, Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be demonstrative and I'm going to say anything.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get in people's faces, and then people said,
Speaker 1: why won't you be yourself out there? I don't know
Speaker 1: if he knows who he is right now. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to figure that out this season, for better
Speaker 1: or for worse. But Joe Burrow goes to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage knowing he does not have a good team.
Speaker 1: Now he may say all the right things, he knows
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a good team, but he goes a
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and if I'm planning for you, that
Speaker 1: confidence that he shows that somehow he were good and
Speaker 1: we know we're not good. That to me was the
Speaker 1: most impressive part of that last night, those last two drives,
Speaker 1: and he played well against a pretty good San Diego
Speaker 1: La Chargers defense. I mean, it's it's not murderers row here.
Speaker 1: When you you're going to face the Ravens, then we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out, you know a little bit more about him.
Speaker 1: But I love composure at that position. Yeah, I'm club.
Speaker 1: Remember how old he is though, Yeah, see twenty three.
Speaker 1: He's well and he's older than Lamar Jackson by a month,
Speaker 1: which is an amazing stat Yeah, all right, what other
Speaker 1: poll questions? The other Browns? Who would you rather say?
Speaker 1: You're the Patriots and you have a choice of these
Speaker 1: two guys, Odell Beckham Junior or AJ Green? Now with
Speaker 1: the caveat AJ Green's a little older. He's just turned thirtyeen.
Speaker 1: He looks old. Yeah, but you don't have the headache
Speaker 1: of Odell. Yeah, three catches last night, he was targeted
Speaker 1: thirteen times. I guess I would take Odell because Belichick
Speaker 1: has a track record of keeping everybody kind of on
Speaker 1: the same page there and the possibility of having a
Speaker 1: home run threat, and he is still a home run threat,
Speaker 1: So I would I would take a chance on Odell.
Speaker 1: But that's just because I don't have confidence in aj
Speaker 1: Green being an elite wide receiver anymore any more. Overreactions
Speaker 1: week Okay, who are we ripping on? Who? That one?
Speaker 1: In Week one? Are we ripping the shreds on Monday? Okay?
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers? Who hosts the Lions? David, that's a
Speaker 1: big spread. I would think green Bay might be safe.
Speaker 1: They should, They should. Tennessee is hosting Jacksonville, so that's
Speaker 1: we don't even talk about. There's no way they're to
Speaker 1: lead on Monday, right, win or lose. If Tennessee loses
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, I mean that would be a big surprise. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we lead with that, because well
Speaker 1: we have to follow everybody else. We have to lead
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys because the Cowboys play the Falcons, right,
Speaker 1: I'm only doing one in Week one? The Rams go
Speaker 1: to the Eagles. If they lost, with that be a
Speaker 1: big deal or it's a cross country Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a big deal. Okay, Pittsburgh host Denver, if they lost,
Speaker 1: big deal a little bit. But that's only because I'm
Speaker 1: fascinated with the Steelers this year. I think if New
Speaker 1: England goes to Seattle and Seattle loses, that might be
Speaker 1: more of a big deal that just from the Patriots
Speaker 1: stand standpoint? What if New England loses? Is that a
Speaker 1: big deal? Do we start to know? I don't expect
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to win. You know how people are,
Speaker 1: especially with Cam, they like to I just want to
Speaker 1: know how he plays, Like what is the game plan
Speaker 1: for Cam Newton? And we can ask Russell Wilson when
Speaker 1: he joins us next Honor, Hey, what do you think
Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to do? Hey? How are you
Speaker 1: preparing for the Patriots? He'll of course tell us yes.
Speaker 1: One more, what's the fallout Saints Raiders? Do we really
Speaker 1: dig in on either of those teams? It's at at
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. No, Like if the Raiders, if they win,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Oh, it wouldn't be like sky
Speaker 1: is falling for the Saints to lose that game like that. No,
Speaker 1: they just beat Tampa Bay. I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: Raiders are a good team. I think they are a
Speaker 1: good team. And I'm gonna say great, but they're a
Speaker 1: good team. I think that that potential there. We'll talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about what happened with my heat
Speaker 1: up two oh and the Celtics and another meltdown with
Speaker 1: Boston and I guess there was some things thrown and
Speaker 1: said in the Celtics locker room after a game. It happens,
Speaker 1: but the heat go up two oh on the Celtics.
Speaker 1: The Lakers and Nuggets game one coming up tonight, so
Speaker 1: we have a lot of things to get to. But
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Speaker 1: trial and error, and the likelihood of these big state
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Speaker 1: nine weeks is very low. So that's the information I
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Speaker 1: ready in the final hour. Mclevan, let's settle on a
Speaker 1: poll question I actually popped up, who would you rather
Speaker 1: start a team with Baker Mayfield or Joe Burrow? Just
Speaker 1: see what people say a little click Yeah, it's have
Speaker 1: a little bit of clickbait. But let's guess. Let's guess
Speaker 1: the percentage here. I'd say eight eighty five, Okay, I
Speaker 1: was gonna go seventy eight percent. Joe Burrow, Yes, pa
Speaker 1: seventy two percent. Okay. It's a known versus the unknown.
Speaker 1: People love, we love that. But I do think you've
Speaker 1: seen enough Burrow coming off the greatest single season of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks has ever had. But he's playing for the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and I just wondered, you know, how much would they
Speaker 1: expose him? How much would they put him out there
Speaker 1: and let him sort of do what he did at LSU?
Speaker 1: And then we saw it last night, sixty one passes.
Speaker 1: How many times does that happen this early for a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback? And I don't know. They said last night
Speaker 1: the only other guy was Chris Winky, of all people,
Speaker 1: who was also anciently old by the time he started. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was probably like thirty one. Yes, see a new
Speaker 1: pole question. How long before Joe Barrow's armfall off or
Speaker 1: something on his body because he's gonna get hit. He
Speaker 1: only had three hundred and fifteen yards. He wasn't exactly
Speaker 1: bombing it down the field. Well, but that's gonna be
Speaker 1: their offense because I look, Joe Mixon to me is
Speaker 1: a good running back. He's not a great running back.
Speaker 1: It feels like I can find a Joe Mixon in
Speaker 1: every draft or two. But are you gonna be able
Speaker 1: to run the football? Like your running game might be
Speaker 1: short passes? You know, that's probably what the philosophy is
Speaker 1: going to be, and you're gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1: So Burrow is not getting hit as many times as
Speaker 1: he got hit last night, and Baker Mayfield didn't get
Speaker 1: hit once, didn't get touched once last night. Let me see,
Speaker 1: let me go to skip in Texas High Skip. What
Speaker 1: do you have for me today? Well? A lot? What
Speaker 1: you just said? Um, can you hear me? Yes? I
Speaker 1: can skip? Okay, A lot? What you just said? Hey,
Speaker 1: budd The what what Joe did during the first half
Speaker 1: was being praised by by Joe Buck and Troy Aikman,
Speaker 1: and during the second half he was being ridiculed, But
Speaker 1: at the same time they stopped running the football. It was.
Speaker 1: It was what you said that Baker Mayfield needed to have.
Speaker 1: He needed to have playoffs to pass, He needs to
Speaker 1: have running back that moved the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get any yardage. Yeah, but and thank you
Speaker 1: skip the Cleveland Browns have a good offensive line and
Speaker 1: they have two really good running backs. So why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you run the football more than you pass. Seattle does
Speaker 1: that with Russell Wilson, and Russell Wilson is a whole
Speaker 1: lot better than Baker Mayfield and they still run the football.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Pollie. This just in Russell Wilson better than
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. But it's one game. They beat a team
Speaker 1: they were supposed to beat. I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: more of a challenger a game in their first week
Speaker 1: opponent with Baltimore, and that they didn't look like they
Speaker 1: belonged on the same field. Last night you beat a
Speaker 1: Bengals team you were supposed to beat, and Cincinnati made
Speaker 1: it looked interesting there at the very end curtain Florida
Speaker 1: joins us Hi, Kurt, what do you have for me today? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: How are you doing today with great what's on your mind? Well,
Speaker 1: first off, I haven't paid off that bet that I
Speaker 1: made to you yet said I would do a shower
Speaker 1: of shame with Skyline Chili if the Browns didn't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, which they obviously did not. And
Speaker 1: after last night's game, I figured it would be a
Speaker 1: good time to call in and let you know that
Speaker 1: even though I'm in Florida now, I do have the
Speaker 1: Internet so I can order a can of Skyline Chili.
Speaker 1: I have a Baker Mayfield jersey, which is one of
Speaker 1: the horrible ones that they wore for the last couple
Speaker 1: of seasons, and I don't care to damage. And I'm
Speaker 1: going to order a CANi Skyline Chili off the Internet
Speaker 1: and have it sent to me here in Naples, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to dump it on myself and pay off
Speaker 1: my bat to you. All Right, Well, that sounds good.
Speaker 1: You could have paid it off earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: but you know season's been over for Walkert. But video
Speaker 1: chape that and pour the Skyline Chili over your head
Speaker 1: there for the shower of shame. Yes, point as a
Speaker 1: penalty for the delay and paying off the bet. Maybe
Speaker 1: since he's in Naples, he could pour the Chilian himself
Speaker 1: then roll in the sand at the lovely Naples Beach.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't I don't want to overpunish him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a Browns fan. Hasn't he already been over punished here?
Speaker 1: But they picked up the wind last night and that's
Speaker 1: all that matters. Here was another poll question we were
Speaker 1: talking about who should be nervous for their job, Doc Rivers,
Speaker 1: Brad Stevens or neither. Brad Stevens shouldn't be nervous. Doc's
Speaker 1: going to be brought back, so I would say neither
Speaker 1: right now. But if the Celtics get swept, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like Brad Stevens is pretty secure there, but
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, I guess it sounds like he is coming back.
Speaker 1: Is a commissioner with US, Tom, Yes, he's a Larry
Speaker 1: Scott PAC twelfth commissioner joining us early good morning commissioner
Speaker 1: as of this morning. Where do we and with football
Speaker 1: in the fall? With PAC twelve, We've had a lot
Speaker 1: of progress over the last day or two, especially with
Speaker 1: public health officials in California and Oregon. And this on
Speaker 1: the heels of the deal we did with the Quai Dell,
Speaker 1: which gives us access to daily testing with rapid results.
Speaker 1: Things brought us a long way. So our Medical Advisory
Speaker 1: Committee is much more comfortable with us going forward, and
Speaker 1: it looks like the hurdles have been cleared in terms
Speaker 1: of the public health authorities in the states of California
Speaker 1: and Oregon. So things are looking a lot more promising.
Speaker 1: So I've got a call today with our presidents and chancellors.
Speaker 1: We're going to take stock of where we are and
Speaker 1: see if we're comfortable with a path forward before January first,
Speaker 1: which was what our previous decision was, and we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can align with others in college football still
Speaker 1: this fall. Will there be a vote today when you
Speaker 1: talk to these presidents. I'm not expecting to vote today.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to push for one today. I mean,
Speaker 1: this has been a rapidly developing series of events. Yesterday
Speaker 1: was pretty crazy, from a call I got from Governor
Speaker 1: Newsom in the morning to meetings folks from Morgan, Oregon
Speaker 1: State had with their governor that day. So, yeah, we
Speaker 1: need to get folks that lead our campus as a
Speaker 1: chance to digest all this take into account everything going
Speaker 1: on on their campuses. But we also realize that if
Speaker 1: we're going to move forward this fall with football, where
Speaker 1: we need a six week ramp up for US two
Speaker 1: athletes in California. They haven't been in the gym, they
Speaker 1: haven't been they haven't been on a field, so any
Speaker 1: these weeks and then this basketball too, which the NCA
Speaker 1: just decided on Wednesday, is going to start November twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: So we've got to figure out with both those that
Speaker 1: were come from moving forward what I was told yesterday,
Speaker 1: and you obviously can correct me if you need to that.
Speaker 1: If you're looking at a date, it'd be probably around
Speaker 1: Halloween that the first game in the back twelve. So
Speaker 1: if we're going to move forward, depends on how quickly
Speaker 1: we can get back to practice. You know, six weeks
Speaker 1: would be from Monday, but we're only getting these rapid
Speaker 1: tests next week, so I think that would be the
Speaker 1: most ambitious. Maybe maybe a week or two too quick
Speaker 1: for us. But somewhere in that zip code is where
Speaker 1: we'd be playing if we're playing. But also it's going
Speaker 1: to preclude you, I think, from being qualifying for the
Speaker 1: playoff the final four. Right well, if we were to
Speaker 1: play this fall, I don't think anyone could predict. I
Speaker 1: was I was on the call of my fellow commissioners,
Speaker 1: and you know, we've got a board of the college
Speaker 1: football playoff. I don't think if you ask any of
Speaker 1: my fellow commissioners they can tell you how many games
Speaker 1: their teams are going to play. They know what they're
Speaker 1: going to try to play. But we've already seen in
Speaker 1: the first two weeks every league that's tried to play
Speaker 1: has had the postpone games. So no one's feeling supremely
Speaker 1: confident at this point, especially those have done in daily
Speaker 1: tests that they're all their team's going to play every game.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, it's uncharted territory. We don't
Speaker 1: know how many games each league is going to play.
Speaker 1: There are going to be many more differences than we're
Speaker 1: normally used to, and I don't know you know whether
Speaker 1: the average is going to be six games or eight games.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can tell you. We don't know
Speaker 1: a player availability's going to be, and the committee is
Speaker 1: going to have the work cut out from there. Gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot more subjectivity this year than the best
Speaker 1: I would not rule anything out. So more likely to
Speaker 1: play in the fall than the spring. Because last time
Speaker 1: we had you on a couple of weeks ago, you said,
Speaker 1: you know, we're targeting the spring or right after your
Speaker 1: you know, January, more likely fall football than spring football.
Speaker 1: I'd say at this stage it's promising. You know, we've
Speaker 1: it's amazing how much has happened in the last five
Speaker 1: weeks since we made our decision. And the good news is,
Speaker 1: you know, we got access to the kind of testing
Speaker 1: our medical folks required sooner than we thought. We've gotten
Speaker 1: public health authority approval, uh, you know, quickly, earlier than
Speaker 1: we thought. And so we've tried. We've tried to do
Speaker 1: a couple of things then, and I've appreciate a chance
Speaker 1: to talk here. We tried to be transferent about what
Speaker 1: we're doing, deliberate health and safety first, but at same time,
Speaker 1: our student, if it's want to play, and our coach
Speaker 1: want to play, our fans want to play. So we've
Speaker 1: been committed to explore every possibility to do so when
Speaker 1: we felt it was safe and we had appropriate approval.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to be nimble and flexible too. And
Speaker 1: you know, our president's chancellors have been that too, and
Speaker 1: that's why they're convening on a call real time to
Speaker 1: address this new information. And yeah, if we if we
Speaker 1: can provide an opportunity for our student athletes to play
Speaker 1: as soon as it's safe. They want to play, and
Speaker 1: we owe them that if we can do it. You
Speaker 1: think you'll know by monday if you're playing. We have
Speaker 1: to decide, you know, by next week. If we're moving forward,
Speaker 1: you have a target date. Not yet, No, you know,
Speaker 1: I need to This has been a rapidly escalating series
Speaker 1: of events over the last twenty four hours, and I
Speaker 1: need to see where my presidents and chancellors are, which
Speaker 1: I'll know later today. But what changed? Is it just
Speaker 1: the rapid testing, like the approval of the governors of
Speaker 1: Oregon and Alifornia. For US, the game changer was being
Speaker 1: the first conference to get access to daily testing, and
Speaker 1: those tests are being shipped to us on Monday, with
Speaker 1: the machines and the readers. And the reason for that
Speaker 1: is our medical advisors, you know, that concerns about heart
Speaker 1: the prevalence of the spread of the virus, and they
Speaker 1: didn't feel comfortable playing the sport of football or basketball
Speaker 1: for that matter, if they thought, you know, the practice
Speaker 1: or the games could lead to the spread of the
Speaker 1: vices beyond what people might get in their communities. Or
Speaker 1: the dining halls or in their dorms or whatever. The
Speaker 1: act of playing football or basketball couldn't lead to the spread,
Speaker 1: and getting access to daily testing gives a hydrary confidence
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. So that was the game
Speaker 1: changer for us, and I think it was a game
Speaker 1: changer for the public health officials, which was the second
Speaker 1: major saying that just happened within the last twenty thirty
Speaker 1: six hours. Is it everybody has to play or nobody
Speaker 1: plays in the PAC twelve m up? Till now, we've
Speaker 1: been completely unified in our approach, and I expect that
Speaker 1: will continue to be the case. Last time we talked,
Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing, but it felt like you were saying
Speaker 1: that the Big twelve and the ACC and SEC were
Speaker 1: being a little more reckless. You were being very overly cautious,
Speaker 1: and so was the Big ten. Do you still feel
Speaker 1: that way? Well, I doubt I ever used the word
Speaker 1: reckless with my peers. They That's why I was paraphrasing there.
Speaker 1: But you were, you were. You sent a message there,
Speaker 1: whether you intended to or not. Fair enough, though, I
Speaker 1: think what I was trying to suggest is we have
Speaker 1: been more cautious, and I think, you know, the values
Speaker 1: in every part of the country are a little bit different,
Speaker 1: the priorities and the pressures that people feel. And I
Speaker 1: think our league into something I'm proud of with our
Speaker 1: schools have wanted to error if they were going to
Speaker 1: error on the side of safety, health and safety and
Speaker 1: wealth or the student athletes, even if it would come
Speaker 1: at a significant cost TV revenue, attendance, etc. And people
Speaker 1: want to play. And we drew the line in the
Speaker 1: same who weren't going to do it unless our medical
Speaker 1: advisors were very confident and comfortable, And of course we
Speaker 1: need public health authority approvals, And different leagues made different decisions,
Speaker 1: But you know, I've tried to be careful not to
Speaker 1: cast judgment on anyone else's decision making. I just like
Speaker 1: to talk about the values we've had, which have been
Speaker 1: more conservative and causes and I think on our show
Speaker 1: before we talked about that's a microcosm of what's going
Speaker 1: on in society too. Yeah, but you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out. With your role, when you
Speaker 1: get the presidents on the phone, do you advise them, like,
Speaker 1: do you say this is what I want to do
Speaker 1: or is it. You guys, tell me what you want
Speaker 1: to do. You know, it's a it's a combination of
Speaker 1: those things. You know. My job is to reflect and
Speaker 1: carry out what our twelve schools ultimately want to do.
Speaker 1: But they rely on me to do the legwork, bring
Speaker 1: them the facts and make a recommendation. That's what I'll do.
Speaker 1: And your recommendation is to play football in the fall. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're going to hear my recommendation first. Your recommendation is
Speaker 1: to play football in the fall. We we we've overcome
Speaker 1: the major obstacles that we had and the criteria that
Speaker 1: our medical advisors set with the Public Health Authority approvals
Speaker 1: and now but you know, our presence chances have to
Speaker 1: weigh the issues on their campsis they'll be the ultimate
Speaker 1: decision bakers. But in terms of the metrics and the
Speaker 1: issues we talked about in mid August, the reasons why
Speaker 1: we weren't going forward, we've made tremendous progress and have
Speaker 1: overcome those things. Normal, I'll report them that we've achieved
Speaker 1: those things, and then it's up to them to weigh
Speaker 1: it all in decide, And normally you would want to
Speaker 1: know what the vote is going to be before you
Speaker 1: take the vote. But what you're saying is if there
Speaker 1: is a chancellor president who says, look, I just don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable doing that, can they sit out this football
Speaker 1: season and the Pack twelve continues to play with everybody else.
Speaker 1: We've never done that, and I don't know if we
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that or not up till now. So you
Speaker 1: think you can get a consensus vote. We've had a
Speaker 1: consensus at every step of the way, and I expect
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a consensus on this. Good luck, and
Speaker 1: you know, I always appreciate you coming on. I know
Speaker 1: it may feel like a firing squad at times, but
Speaker 1: my job is to get answers. It's a very important issue,
Speaker 1: and I know it's it's fluid. It's day to day,
Speaker 1: almost hour to hour of trying to get this done.
Speaker 1: And I wish you luck. I appreciate it. Then, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's Larry Scott, Commissioner of the pac twelve. We'll take
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Speaker 1: Let me summarize Larry Scott, the PAC twelve commissioner, his appearance.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have football in the fall with the Pac twelve.
Speaker 1: They have a call later today. I think he knows
Speaker 1: what the it's going to be. It sounds like it'll
Speaker 1: be a consensus. I was wondering if you were going
Speaker 1: to have a couple of outliers like the Big Ten had.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of arm twisting went on
Speaker 1: with the Big Ten to get everybody on the same page,
Speaker 1: but I think that they had to do that with
Speaker 1: some of these schools. PAC twelve probably. I was told
Speaker 1: that at the earliest would be Halloween weekend, and the
Speaker 1: commissioner said probably a little aggressive. There might be a
Speaker 1: week later. And they're not even sure if they're playing
Speaker 1: six games, maybe eight games. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: have a team that would qualify for the Final four,
Speaker 1: be good enough for the Final four. I think they're
Speaker 1: just going to try to play football, recoup some of
Speaker 1: the revenue there, and then maybe if you get some
Speaker 1: bowl games, you'll have one of the schools playing in
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. That's best case scenario I think for
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. Yeah, Paul, A couple of things there
Speaker 1: is tough is that the SEC is going to have
Speaker 1: a ten game conference schedule. The Big Ten is either
Speaker 1: going to have an eight or nine game conference schedule.
Speaker 1: They have an announced specifically that, but at least eight
Speaker 1: the twelve. If they started on October thirty first, would
Speaker 1: you be the earliest? The most games they could get
Speaker 1: in would be seven games before the decisions made for
Speaker 1: the final four. They've been playing games in an exhibition fashion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're probably going to be playing a
Speaker 1: game or two maybe after the selection show where you
Speaker 1: have the final four, or they're just going to wait
Speaker 1: for the bowl games. But so much of this is happening.
Speaker 1: It's in real time with these decisions. And keep in
Speaker 1: mind when the Commissioner was on with us, was that
Speaker 1: last week when he said this rapid testing, or maybe
Speaker 1: it was two weeks ago, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Some of the coaches who listened to
Speaker 1: the show heard that and they said, well, they went
Speaker 1: to their athletic directors and presidents and said, hey, we
Speaker 1: need to get that, like why don't we have this
Speaker 1: rapid testing? And that was part of the reason why
Speaker 1: the Big Ten was able to turn this around so quickly,
Speaker 1: is because the PAC twelve and Larry Scott was saying,
Speaker 1: look we have this, and the Big ten a sudden
Speaker 1: reverse field and said we're going to be coming back
Speaker 1: to play but you're gonna have the PAC twelve. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to look like. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many games. I don't know if there is
Speaker 1: anybody who is going to object to this. It feels
Speaker 1: like the commissioner knows what the vote is going to be.
Speaker 1: All right, So that's interesting. Pack twelve football. The MAC
Speaker 1: is going to Mid American Conference is meeting this weekend.
Speaker 1: Everybody come on in and the deep end of the pool,
Speaker 1: Mountain West, come on in. Everybody now is going to
Speaker 1: play here. Everybody doesn't have the resources that the Power
Speaker 1: five conferences do. Yeah, pol the MAC, the first one's out,
Speaker 1: last one's in. Well, no, the was the IVY IVY
Speaker 1: League was the first one out there, and they're going
Speaker 1: to stay out. The IVY League was the first to
Speaker 1: be out of basketball the tournament. Remember when the IVY
Speaker 1: League bowed out and we're like, yeah, but it's the
Speaker 1: IVY League. And then all of a sudden everybody followed suit,
Speaker 1: and the IVY League said we're not playing football in
Speaker 1: the fall, and then all of a sudden you had
Speaker 1: some conferences following suit. It looks like they're still going
Speaker 1: to play in UH in the spring. Yes, Mickleven. By way,
Speaker 1: I'm reading that Oregon tackle Penny Swell is supposed to
Speaker 1: be a top three pick already signed with an agent,
Speaker 1: so that might complicate things. So if he doesn't come
Speaker 1: back and Oregon's not dominant, does it I mean, is
Speaker 1: it possible that the Final four isn't really the end
Speaker 1: goal for the Pack twelve? No, and it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: They should just come back to play football. When when's
Speaker 1: the Final four been the end goal for the Pack
Speaker 1: twelve or a realistic goal? A realistic goal? And when's
Speaker 1: Washington's always there at the end and then they fade?
Speaker 1: USC has really been part of the Final four? Right?
Speaker 1: But they used to be. Yeah, but that's when they
Speaker 1: were an elite program. Like who is elite? We know Oregon,
Speaker 1: but that's just because they have a brand. I don't
Speaker 1: know who's great out there. I mean, we don't know.
Speaker 1: I know Clemson's good, and I know Ohio State's good.
Speaker 1: I expect Alabama to be good, Oklahoma and probably Georgia.
Speaker 1: That's just kind of bay off, you know, recent history here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: point well, it'd be really weird though. Let's say the
Speaker 1: Big Ten plays eight games in the Pac twelve place seven.
Speaker 1: What if Oregon were seven and zero in Ohio State
Speaker 1: were seven and one, they would take Ohio State, right,
Speaker 1: but should they take Ohio State? It's it goes back
Speaker 1: to what my source said that the Big Ten is
Speaker 1: banking on the eye test that if they don't play
Speaker 1: the same number of games. Now, they're gonna play nine.
Speaker 1: From what I'm told, there's eight, and then everybody is
Speaker 1: going to play on that final weekend with the Big
Speaker 1: Ten championship. So the two top schools in each of
Speaker 1: their divisions they're in the Big Ten, and then the
Speaker 1: second place third place. So they're going to try to
Speaker 1: get nine games in the Big Ten, that's the goal.
Speaker 1: But the sec ACC in Big twelve are going to
Speaker 1: be playing ten games. Yes, b club, and you look
Speaker 1: like you how to go? I would just say, remember
Speaker 1: that year they jumped Ohio State over Baylor and Kansas Snakes,
Speaker 1: like they'll they'll they like some of those blue bloods right. Well,
Speaker 1: plus this year it feels like you can massage it
Speaker 1: however you want to because you're going, well, you know,
Speaker 1: during this pandemic, you know hard to have you know,
Speaker 1: apples to apples. Here, you got apples to bananas, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna take Ohio State. Somebody could go undefeated. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take Ohio State here even with one loss. Their
Speaker 1: question is, can you get two teams from the Big
Speaker 1: Ten in That's what I'd be curious about. Now if
Speaker 1: you got Wisconsin and Ohio State. But if you lose
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten title game, then that's going to
Speaker 1: preclude you from, you know, being a possible Final four team. Now,
Speaker 1: if you go seven and one or eight and one
Speaker 1: or eight, you know seven and two, you're not going
Speaker 1: to make the Final four because Clemson will go undefeated.
Speaker 1: Alabama will you know, has that chance, or Georgia going undefeated,
Speaker 1: and then you'll have, you know, the Pac twelve with Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: I mean you already had Iowa State in Kansas State
Speaker 1: lose at home. Yeah, mcclubbing. You got your Notre Dame
Speaker 1: fighting Irish in the ACC. That's not a tough schedules it. Well,
Speaker 1: they got Clemson, Oh darn it, they played Clemson. That's
Speaker 1: their playoff game right there, and judging how Notre Dame
Speaker 1: looked against Duke, they better get a lot better before
Speaker 1: they meet Clemson. Russell Wilson will join US coming up
Speaker 1: next hour, one hour in the Books, two more to go, Seaton, Paulie,
Speaker 1: Fritzie McClellan, yours truly right here on The Dan Patrick Show.