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Speaker 1: Smell off now, lady, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: To Meet Trivia.

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Speaker 2: Oh there you are. Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven am on Thursday, which means we're here at

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brody. I'm joined today by Seth and

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Speaker 2: Corey and Steve. Steve ditched Randall. So Randall's here too.

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Speaker 2: You can't see him though he's sitting here. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 2: we got a couple of great guests joining us today.

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Speaker 2: We who are going to be talking to us about

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Speaker 2: the Boundary Waters and then we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: state wildlife come missions. There's some interesting stuff going on

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Speaker 2: in New Mexico regarding state wildlife commissions. And we're also

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Speaker 2: going to be addressing Randall's loud bag of sun chips

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Speaker 2: and some interesting email correspondence from the Meat Eater inbox.

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Speaker 2: And we'll also do a Crewe Hot Tip hop and

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Speaker 2: the live you guys, the live audience, you're going to

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Speaker 2: decide the winner and what we'll announce that at the

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Speaker 2: end of the show. What flavored you got there.

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Speaker 1: Randall.

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Speaker 4: Garden Salsa my favorite?

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Speaker 2: Nice here?

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Speaker 5: Do you have enough for the rest of the class.

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Speaker 4: Nope, Okay, moving on, I'm not even supposed to be here.

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Speaker 2: Moving on. Before we dive into the show, I want

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Speaker 2: to make an announcement in case you guys haven't heard.

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Speaker 2: Some of you have, probably have, some of you probably haven't.

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Speaker 2: Might be a little painful for for our most diehard

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Speaker 2: listeners like mogor, so hold on your breches in casey

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard, We're gonna be saying goodbye to Media

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Speaker 2: or Radio Live in early March. So been a great

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Speaker 2: run and we've had so much fun doing the live

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Speaker 2: show for you guys, so we're sad to see it go.

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Speaker 2: Randall in particular has been in a dark, deep depression

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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. Uh Is that you got

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Speaker 2: anything to add there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but we've learned so much along the way and

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Speaker 6: really made all kinds of new friends, including we've learned

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Speaker 6: things about one another that I don't think would have

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Speaker 6: come to light.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, There's there's some good news here too. Radio Live

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Speaker 2: is going to replace be replaced by a second weekly

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Speaker 2: episode of Media the Mediater podcast, and you're still going

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Speaker 2: to be seeing the crew from Radio to Media to

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Speaker 2: Radio Live along with Steve and the additional drop of

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Speaker 2: the Mediater podcast is going to focus on news and

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Speaker 2: current events, but we're going to bring some of the

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Speaker 2: fun and energy from Radio Live along with us. But

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Speaker 2: for now, we've got another month or so, five weeks

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Speaker 2: maybe of Radio Live left before we sign off, and

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Speaker 2: we're definitely gonna be doing something very special for for

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Speaker 2: our last episode of Radio Live, Phil, Phil and Randall

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Speaker 2: are already plotting. So if you have, if you have

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Speaker 2: any like suggestions or like wants that you would see

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Speaker 2: in our last show, send them.

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Speaker 1: In to us.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if we can do anything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Phil, do we have Is it radio at the

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Speaker 6: meeteater dot com?

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Speaker 1: I believe it is.

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Speaker 2: If you have any.

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Speaker 6: Ideas for the Meat Eater Radio Live Grand Finale Spectacular

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Speaker 6: Live on.

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Speaker 1: March fifth, phill be our last show and we're playing.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a blast, So please's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 1: Please tune in and I think you really really quick too.

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Speaker 1: Just to add to some of the messaging around here

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Speaker 1: about like why specifically we're doing this, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: main reason is that Steve wants to do stuff like

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Speaker 1: he can't do it very often because it's it's tied

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Speaker 1: to a specific time. But so now it's just being replaced.

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Speaker 1: The new show is gonna have a lot of the

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Speaker 6: Phil can go on vacations that include Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm getting here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I just think some of the messaging hasn't been super clear,

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Speaker 1: so I just thought would get you know, get in

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Speaker 3: Boys.

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Speaker 4: That's not on you, Brody, I know, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, not from you. I mean the messaging that

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Speaker 2: And I will add that there's a chance, I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're even thinking about some some like primetime shows

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Speaker 2: At like some kind of event or something we might

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Speaker 4: Do it rent tuxedos for those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. All right. So, uh, you guys got anything you

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to tell you a bunch of ice

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Speaker 2: But I saw you were on the ice the other day.

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Speaker 2: Did you get any of those five inch bluegills?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a little sketchy ice was bare minimum.

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Speaker 7: Ice was chit chatty up there, yeah, making all kinds

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Speaker 5: Yelling at you. Yeah, threatening, Yeah, a little scary. It's

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Speaker 5: been so unseasonably warm. I went fly fishing the other day. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we caught a few one time I went ice fishing.

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Speaker 6: While fly fishing, I was up in Alaska, went out

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's cool. Excellent job, right yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. Got got a whole lot going

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Speaker 7: Really, we're kind of just stuck in a weird time

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Speaker 2: I was going to do a marathon, my first marathon

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well you're able to train at the moment at least. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But now it's real, like September seems so far off,

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Speaker 2: and June's like right there. Anyway, we got more important

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Speaker 2: stuff to talk about, namely the Boundary Waters. Our first

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Speaker 2: lead chef for Modern Carnivore and he's also contributed a

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Speaker 2: executive director of the conservation group Sportsman for the Boundary Waters,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna he's here to talk to us today

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Speaker 2: most cherished wild places, which is Minnesota's Boundary Waters. Canoe area,

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Speaker 2: like the Boundary Waters have been threatened before, managed to

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Speaker 2: like serious. And before we get to the interview with Lucas,

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Speaker 2: one point one million acre ftterally protected wilderness area in

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Speaker 2: tailed deer, and they're white tail deer that have never

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Speaker 2: reason we're talking about all this is because the boundary

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Speaker 2: that's proposed on the banks of the South Koishi Koishawe

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Speaker 2: causing significant environmental damage. There's like something seems to always

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Speaker 2: go wrong with these mines. They're like you can look

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Speaker 2: it up. There's plenty of examples. You google it and

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Speaker 2: toxic industry in America, and hydrologists say that pollution from

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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk to Lucas. Lucas you on

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Speaker 8: I sure, am, thanks guys for having me and Brody

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Speaker 8: you really you nailed that intro man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks. Before we get into the Boundary Waters, let's

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Speaker 2: first talk about who Sportsman for the Boundary Waters is

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Speaker 2: and what you guys do.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, I mean, you know, Sportsmen for the Boundary

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Speaker 9: Waters was founded you know, roughly a decade ago, uh,

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Speaker 9: mainly as the hunting and angling voice for the area,

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Speaker 9: for protections of the area, for the world class hunting

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Speaker 9: and fishing opportunities that it holds, like you talked about,

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Speaker 9: but also you know, to you know, to work and

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Speaker 2: Great. So obviously this seems Randall. Randall was trying to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they border as well.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's crazy like whenever one of these these

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Speaker 9: The whole issue with that is is that those minerals,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to us. Yeah, no, no, we don't get anything.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and you know, no one's saying that.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's a twenty year withdraw right.

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Speaker 2: So like obviously this goes like way beyond a handful

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Speaker 9: Well, certainly, certainly all of the local businesses. You know,

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Speaker 8: That's you know, eighty five, right. It is truly accessible

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That that's I mean, that's the worrying aspect of it.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's it's pretty up in the air.

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Speaker 9: The UH so, the Senate Parliamentarian still has to rule

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Speaker 8: It scares off the folks trying to get this.

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Speaker 3: To move move forward in the Senate as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And and for people who are wondering, like it's

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Speaker 9: But it connects you directly with the Capital switchboard and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually a pretty quick process. All right, before

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Speaker 2: before we let you go, Lucas, you are a chef,

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Speaker 2: so we got to talk about food a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Giannis has given us the bird out there. This place

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Speaker 2: Sorry about this, Lucas is embarrassing. Give us like two

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Speaker 8: If I'm in the boundary waters, sure should we do it?

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Speaker 9: is nothing better than shoreline's lake trap cooked in bacon

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Speaker 9: Really lightly breaded with with the actual shore lunch? Otherwise,

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Speaker 9: Trust me, both they're great. But yeah, that that's one

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Speaker 2: Let's say you were up there and you shot yourself

441
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: a rough grouse and you're like camping up there. What

442
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: would you do with it?

443
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: First?

444
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 8: I'd let it sit for a little bit.

445
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: Are you do? You mean like, let it hang for

446
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: a while if you have.

447
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 8: Time, I mean, yeah, you know, going going straight from

448
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 8: shot to the pan can can make things a little

449
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 8: bit difficult. But once that done, I honestly I pound

450
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 8: out the breasts and see them in a cast iron

451
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 8: with a little sauce over the fire, and take the

452
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 8: legs and probably braise them in something, you know, which

453
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 8: is just a really slow cook. If you have time,

454
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 8: you can take the carcass.

455
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 9: And make a stock, you know, to make a sauce,

456
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 9: just kind of use the whole thing, right, yep, take

457
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 9: me take maybe you know.

458
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 8: The livers and hearts and grill them real quick, you know,

459
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 8: just use everything you have.

460
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: God, it makes me want to go to the Boundary Waters.

461
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you guys were talking about ice fishing earlier.

462
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 8: It is prime time right now.

463
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys got cold, we didn't. You got all

464
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: the cold we missed?

465
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 8: Man, Yeah, you can take you can take some. It's

466
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 8: been too cold.

467
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: Well listen, Lucas. Thanks thanks for chatting with us today

468
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: and keep us posted on what's going on with the

469
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Boundary Waters. If there's anything we can do to help

470
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: get the message out, let us know.

471
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I really appreciate it.

472
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 9: Spreading the word and just getting folks to take action

473
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 9: is super important.

474
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 8: So thank you so much for having me on today.

475
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: Yep, thanks again. We'll talk soon. All right, moving on hopefully,

476
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: hopefully we get some good news here soon. But we're

477
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 2: gonna move on to our crew hot tip off. Normally

478
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: we like to feature hot tip offs from our audience,

479
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: but you guys have been kind of lame on submitting stuff.

480
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 7: You know.

481
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's Brodie speaking. I think every tip we've gotten.

482
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying like we're just not like we're not getting

483
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: many sent in right now. The folders pretty empty.

484
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 5: Certainly not a lot of show works something.

485
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: Come on, Phil, step it up, yeah, step it up.

486
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 7: You don't have Maybe the folks just don't want to

487
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 7: invest their time in the show that's going away.

488
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Like get there, get their big prize.

489
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: If you've been holding in those hot tips for the

490
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: last year and a half.

491
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, you're stuck with our hot hot tips,

492
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: which we'll see they might only be lukewarm tips.

493
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: To sell way to sell the segment, Brodie.

494
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 10: I know.

495
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Look, I'm trying to get get through this, Randall, I'm sad.

496
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: Okay, now I feel bad.

497
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

498
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: The way we're gonna do this is we're not like

499
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: the you guys are gonna vote on the the winner.

500
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: But it's like kind of hard for Phil to do

501
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: as we're we're doing the hot hot tips and compile

502
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: kind of who got the most vote, So we'll the

503
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: second time we talk to you guys, that's that's at

504
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: the end of the show. That's when we'll announce the winner.

505
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: So there'll be all this tension through the rest of

506
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: the show.

507
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's not what I the plan was but

508
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: I like it. I like to keep you on your toe.

509
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: Brodie's to calling the shots today.

510
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: It's my show, Phil, my show. So Seth Corey, which

511
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: one of you guys wants to go first? Oh?

512
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 5: Seth, why don't you do the honors?

513
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: Sure, I'll go.

514
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 5: I'm very curious.

515
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: All right.

516
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 7: So when you're when you're out fishing and it's like

517
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 7: early spring, maybe later in the fall, water's cold, your

518
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 7: hands are getting cold because you're touching fish and whatnot.

519
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 7: A thing you can do to help take the edge

520
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 7: off is wear a pair of night tild gloves. I

521
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 7: prefer black, but I ran out of my black ones,

522
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 7: so that this is the only thing I had laying around. H.

523
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 7: I often wear those underneath a pair of fingerless gloves,

524
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 7: and it's just enough to take the edge off if

525
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 7: it's a little windy outside or whatnot. It's just enough

526
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 7: to take the edge off and keep your your fingers warm.

527
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: Aboutch that it works. I've done that running and you

528
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: peel those things off and they're full of sweat water warm.

529
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I haven't tried that yet. And good for

530
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 5: the fish too, if you're handling right, These are good

531
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 5: gloves to handle fish.

532
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just that little that little you know, barrier.

533
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Barrier there keeps your fingers warm.

534
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 5: How about tying knots?

535
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 7: That's yeah, it's a good thing because another plus is

536
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 7: that you like have the dexterity that you would lose

537
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 7: with like a fingered glove, a heavy finger glove.

538
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 5: Ye, my vote, bring it all of a sudden.

539
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: All right, try and beat that one, Cory.

540
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 7: All right?

541
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: My hot tip.

542
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 5: I actually had a fun time a couple of months

543
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 5: ago making a video. I was hoping there was going

544
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 5: to be other crew submissions, but there haven't been any. So, uh, Phil,

545
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: do you have my.

546
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: Video up there?

547
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's bring it up. I didn't make a

548
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: little title card for you, but I can just do

549
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: it live here.

550
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 5: Corey Culcum, thank you for pronouncing it correctly.

551
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 8: Hi, I'm Corey Culkins. I got a hot tip for you.

552
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: Anybody out there have one of these cheap foldable lifetime tables, Well,

553
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: anybody ever tried to cut meat on these? And notice

554
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 5: that it's just a little short and you find yourself

555
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: hunched over all the time trying to cut up on

556
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: these short tables. I'm going to teach you if you

557
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: have one of these how to raise it up? So

558
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 5: first I need to figure out it's pretty long. How

559
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: much higher that i'd like it? So for me it

560
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 5: would be nice maybe if it was about belly button

561
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: height or higher. Then you're going to measure the distance

562
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 5: from the ground up to that little crossbar right there,

563
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: which looks like it's Oh, I'm going to say ten inches.

564
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: So I need four twenty two inch sections of this

565
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 5: pipe and get you a stick of.

566
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: One of these one and a half inch.

567
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: PBC pipes. Thanks. Two four.

568
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: You should have just done the whole video that way.

569
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh we lost the camera. I like to say, thank you. Yeah,

570
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: what a great film.

571
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: Then two at a time, you're gonna lift the table

572
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: and stick.

573
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 8: One on each corner.

574
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: One, two, three, three, that's what.

575
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 5: Just like that, I've got a table. It's belly button height,

576
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: so I can start cutting meat not hurting my back.

577
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Give it a try, man, that's good.

578
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: I don't know it.

579
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: We're all dead stuff in there, so I know my

580
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 5: garage is a mess right now. Everything's in my drift boat.

581
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: I only got one suggestion for Corey. Put some non

582
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: slip feet down there on the bottom.

583
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I thought about that. I was concerned.

584
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: But the angle of the feet that comes with the

585
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 5: table is so wide that it's like it's pretty grippy. Yeah,

586
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: so I don't know. It's just if you aren't able

587
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 5: to watch, get to your computer phone fast and go

588
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: watch that.

589
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: But uh, it's pretty self explained trying to.

590
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: Those tables are cheap and they're great you're at Costco

591
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: or Walmart, but they're always just a hair short and

592
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: I'm a short fellaw so and it's a cheap fix.

593
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a cheap skate tip. Yeah.

594
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to my buddy Phil, who actually came

595
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: up with that hot tip.

596
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: This Phil, No, that's funny, Britty, Come on, don't get

597
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: mad Broadwater Street, Phil.

598
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. I just you think I can know

599
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: how to work a power tool my discusses.

600
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: You could just find a chair and sit at your table.

601
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: Oh that's uncomfortable. Oh yeah, you can't do that cutting

602
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: up an elk for six seven. You'll get blood clothing,

603
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 5: pass out from being dizzy.

604
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: All right, I'm a little scared.

605
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: Now.

606
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: Mine's pretty simple, man. When you like, when you're brazing meat,

607
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: cooking it in a liquid shank, roast whatever. Save the

608
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: brazing liquid to reuse it once you're done cooking it,

609
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: and whatever you're doing. It doesn't matter, like what kind

610
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: of meal you're cooking. Strain that all that braizing liquid

611
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: after you cook it, so it's you know, you get

612
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: all the kind of scum and debris and stuff like

613
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: that out of it. You'll get a pretty clear, you know, liquid,

614
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: and put it in a tupperware, a mason jar, whatever,

615
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: freeze it. The next time you're going to braise stuff.

616
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: You get that stuff out thought out, dump it in there,

617
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: and you can do this over and over and over again,

618
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: and it just gets better every time. I got this

619
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: jar of what I call taco juice that's like three

620
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: It's like I've had it for like three years. Man.

621
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: I use it for making like turkey leg carneta, like

622
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: when I'm braizing turkey legs or whatever, like Mexican style,

623
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: and I just keep reusing that stuff and it gets

624
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: better and better, like you could eat it like soup.

625
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: It's so good. So that's that's mine.

626
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: I like that. We We actually do that all the time.

627
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, anytime we brace something, we run it through a

628
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 7: screen at the end and then freeze it and then

629
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 7: a lot of times we'll just pull it out, thaw

630
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 7: it out and just drink it.

631
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's good Man.

632
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: Make a gravy with it. Yep, anything anything great, great.

633
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: Four year old taco juice. That's my hot tip.

634
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I bet that Scott's a flavor.

635
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: Yep, random, you want to jump.

636
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 5: Winter it gets a bag of chips here, so hot tip.

637
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: Gosh, I don't know.

638
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have come in here.

639
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 5: Hair style tips.

640
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: We put you on the spot.

641
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: It's okay, all come up with something some good.

642
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: Just give me.

643
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: So here's here's where the problem lies in your strategy, Brodie.

644
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I uh, I think that the live chat can see

645
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: pole results before I announced them. I think it it

646
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: updates them live. So if I start the poll now,

647
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: the audience will already know what the results are, so

648
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: we might as well just announce them soon, dam it, Phil,

649
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: the landslide or what.

650
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: I'll start to build up some tension here.

651
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: Can we just edit this part out, Phil.

652
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: Where you don't come up with them. The radio lives

653
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist, so this is pre taped.

654
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: You're right, all right? Whatever?

655
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Phil?

656
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: I thought you were like, all right?

657
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: Starting the poll and Randall is one of the offensive randal.

658
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: You have about thirty seconds to come up with a

659
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: hot tip. Go oh god, people are voting already the

660
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: longer hurry.

661
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: Randall, flat tires, shooting pistols.

662
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: Oh, when you go to the.

663
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 6: Range and the range being an empty piece of public

664
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 6: land where you shoot, bring a rake so you don't

665
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 6: have to pick up individual brass cases by the thousands.

666
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: Yep, preach. Yeah, we were shooting last weekend randal was

667
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: like we should have brought a rake.

668
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeh, we had because we littered the ground.

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00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 5: Any suggestions on a type of rake, metal, rake, plastic.

671
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 6: I would think just something with the teeth rather close together,

672
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 6: because like a two two three case, you know, if

673
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 6: it gets the long way in there, you could see

674
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 6: it sliding through.

675
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: But I don't know if that's really hot tip.

676
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 6: We also thought we should just shoot steelcased Ammo and

677
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: he's a magnet, but I don't I haven't tried it yet,

678
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 6: so I don't know if it's hot tip. To think

679
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 6: of it, I actually haven't used the rake tip either, so.

680
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I'll add a hot tip to your hot tip. Geez,

681
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: you guys are getting pick up your damn brass.

682
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't, don't be a garbage person.

683
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: You want to follow up hot tip Randal based on

684
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: this question you got Garrett asking what's the advantage of

685
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: opening FreeDOS from the bottom of the bag as opposed

686
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: to the top.

687
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 6: Oh, you get at them faster if you're holding the

688
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 6: bag upside down, and that's what. Plus it's I if

689
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 6: you're self conscious about what you're eating and you don't

690
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 6: want people to be able to read the label, hold

691
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 6: it upside down. They'll think maybe it's some sort of

692
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 6: foreign food and you're a fancy person that buys like

693
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 6: worded snacks.

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00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Here's another hot tip.

695
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 7: Take fritos on your back on your trips because they're

696
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 7: high in calories and you can start fires with them.

697
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 6: Into you can mix them into like a if you know,

698
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 6: if you have a freeze dried chili or stew or

699
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: anything like that, like a Mexican mash as I like

700
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 6: to call most of the Mountainhouse Southwestern meals.

701
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: You just dump your Frido's in there. You're gonna be

702
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: living like a king.

703
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if they get all mashed up in your pack.

704
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: So good.

705
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: Thirty more seconds on the pole. How many hot tips

706
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: you're going now are thrilling.

707
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, My hot tips are layered.

708
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: Corey Bird, you want to throw any additional ones in

709
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: there to try to juice your numbers here?

710
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: No, man, don't hurt your sand on mine.

711
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: All right, well, forty percent of the vote. The winner

712
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: today is Randall William What we took his away? Who was? Yea?

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00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Coryne God, thanks everybody.

714
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: Hey, Randall, shout out to the crew.

715
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: And by the crew, I mean, the chat must have

716
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: been that editing you guys.

717
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: Do we got any other feedback?

718
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: We want to go doing feedback right now?

719
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: Do a couple.

720
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Sure? I I I will just say something really quick

721
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: based on some comments. I do not speak for meat

722
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: eater or Steve or TRCP. Putting a sitting US representative

723
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: on the podcast is not platforming them. So if you're

724
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: if anything, it lets them speak more to things and

725
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: you can hold them accountable for it come election season

726
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: or when you call your representatives and senators. So anyway,

727
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: that's all I have to say about that. They already

728
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: have a pretty big platform, and they're writing the legislation.

729
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Different than them going on the news exactly.

730
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, when Rachel Maddow has Josh Holly on, it's

731
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: not we're not platforming him, We're letting him talk or

732
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: vice versa. Let's do something sure, Jackson Reedy says, when

733
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: I cook shanks in the the tendons turn gelatinous but

734
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: usually sticks to the meat and doesn't add much moisture

735
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: but just leaves an unpleasant texture. What am I doing wrong?

736
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 5: Hmmmm?

737
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 7: Just think about your joints when you're eating that gelatinous stuff.

738
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 7: That's good for you if it's not turning like almost liquidy.

739
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 7: I don't know, like what your process is for cooking them,

740
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 7: but I would try maybe going a little less temperature

741
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 7: and quite a bit longer.

742
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it's stuck to the meat, might just need

743
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 5: some more time.

744
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that stuff. Oh it's good.

745
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: Will I know what he means?

746
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 2: It can take Sometimes it doesn't get where you want

747
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: it to get.

748
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Will meat Theater continue to exist when Radio Live ends?

749
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Give me meat Theater, give me death Randall.

750
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 6: You know, meat Theaters you're starting as a fever dream

751
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 6: in my mind and it will always live there. But

752
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 6: if you are a fan of meat theater, be sure

753
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 6: to tune into the Meat Eater Radio Live Grand Finale Spectacular.

754
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: Live on what date?

755
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: Phil March fifth?

756
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: March fifth, You won't be disappointed.

757
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: We should make merch for this final episode.

758
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 4: I think we're going to find an investor just comes

759
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: in and buys the concept.

760
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Maybe we can sell the concept. There's some questions of

761
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: regarding the news show and will it be live. Noe,

762
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: the new show will not be live. That's that's kind

763
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: of the whole point is just so we can Steve

764
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: can talk about stuff whenever he wants. We can drop

765
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: it quickly.

766
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: Oh no, this guy says the rake doesn't work.

767
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Uh, oh, dang it.

768
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 6: I've got a big I've got a big canvas drop

769
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 6: cloth like for painting that I used as a floor

770
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 6: in the wall tent this fall. Next time we go out,

771
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 6: we should just spread that out on the ground and

772
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 6: do all of our shooting.

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00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

774
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: Thing we just rolled up like a like a rug.

775
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when a hit man kills someone

776
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: on axter it up.

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00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, blood and everything.

778
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 7: Randall and I have been throwing on the idea of

779
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 7: starting the Meat Eater Intermural Pistol League.

780
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 4: It's called the it's called the me e p Lee

781
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: for short.

782
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: So questions about about drops and uh stuff like that.

783
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: I will in the first week of March. I will

784
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: put together a strung together medley of all of my

785
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: drops and really put it on the Reddit or somewhere

786
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: where you guys, you weirdos, can download it.

787
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: Can you put it on Spotify or will you get dinged?

788
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't think I can do Spotify, but yes,

789
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: it's got to be kind of under the radar.

790
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: Phil, we we got Jeremy waiting for us.

791
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: We actually don't. He's not in his chair right now.

792
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, this guy loves Jeremy Romero, like we got

793
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: to bring him in now, Okay, all right, up next,

794
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: we've got Jeremy Romero from the National Wildlife Federation. You

795
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: might have seen Jeremy hunt with Steve on the Meat

796
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: Eater television show. I think you guys did a couple

797
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: of different shows, uh down there in New Mexico. But

798
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: if not, go watch that. And I can personally vouch

799
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: for for Jeremy's status as as an all around good guy.

800
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: He's a hard working wildlife conservationist. He helps out me

801
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: and Steve on the Youth Deer Hunt and and this,

802
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: this should tell you everything you need to know. About him.

803
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: He sleeps in a tool shed with the minks at

804
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: Steve's fish shed.

805
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: He's a good stick.

806
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he like he may have been the guy

807
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: who introduced a slow pitch jigging to Southeast Alaska.

808
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the og pitch.

809
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: How's that for buttering you up, Jeremy?

810
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: Oh, audio problems. He sounded great right before this.

811
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: I can keep buttering and I appreciate the compliments.

812
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Hey, Jeremy, really really quick. We are getting audio from you,

813
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: but it sounds like it's coming out of a tin

814
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: can and we can't understand a word you're saying. So

815
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna boot you from the call, and

816
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: you want to try to hop back in.

817
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: I no boot him.

818
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: Well he can.

819
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: See, Oh yeah, kick from the studio.

820
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna we're gonna try this again. I

821
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: kind of like this show is ending free wheeling spirit.

822
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: We got going when the wheels are just falling off.

823
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: It was so buttoned up before, but now we really

824
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: show our true colors, loosen our calls. It's kind of

825
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: like when you put your two weeks a little bit.

826
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: We actually got we got solid numbers, right. Oh, we

827
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: need him back, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think the Kay,

828
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: let's try again.

829
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: All the hard work is ahead of us.

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00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: You think, Jeremy, want to give us a few words.

831
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: Here, any any better? Okay, guy that no worries why.

832
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: That was was messing up, But I should have just

833
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: stayed quiet with all those things. You guys are. Yeah, yeah,

834
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: that was nice.

835
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it all.

836
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: Right now, now that you're feeling all good about yourself,

837
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about state wildlife commissions

838
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: and their role in guiding the rules and regulations that

839
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: are set forth by state fish and game agencies. I

840
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: think a lot of people maybe aren't aware of how

841
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: these things work in regards to the regulations that you

842
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: got to follow in any given state. A lot of

843
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: people are like, you know, fishing, game or parks and wildlife,

844
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: they do this or they do that. But in a

845
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: lot of cases, it's like they're doing these things at

846
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: the behest of what state wildlife commissions kind of like

847
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: how they steer them into a into a particular management strategy. So, Jeremy,

848
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: give us a quick breakdown of what a state wildlife

849
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: commission is and who they're supposed to represent, as far

850
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: as different user groups and stakeholders and then and then

851
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: like how they actually end up guiding the policies of

852
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: state fishing game agencies.

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00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, you bet, And first of all, thanks for having

854
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 10: me on the show. You know, you bring up a

855
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 10: really good point, and a lot of people don't quite understand,

856
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 10: you know what, and you know what game commissions do

857
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 10: and game commissioners and their responsibilities and roles with working

858
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 10: with the with the Department of Game and Fishes and so,

859
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 10: you know, I think it's important to note that these

860
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 10: commissioners are tasked with setting the rules and regulations as

861
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 10: you mentioned, you know, hunting dates, as well as quota

862
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 10: limits and things like usable weapon type. They're also tasked

863
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 10: with hiring and overseeing managing the directors of the departments,

864
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 10: deputy directors. It kind of goes, it kind of varies

865
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 10: depending on the state and how the department is made up.

866
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 10: But they also are tasked with, you know, receiving a

867
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 10: lot of that public input and trying to incorporate that

868
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 10: into management level decisions. But at the end of the day,

869
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 10: the folks that work with the departments, they propose different ideas,

870
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 10: different recommendations as far as like the rules changes, policy changes,

871
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 10: and at the end of the day, the game, the

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00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 10: game and fish commissions are the ones that are tasked

873
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 10: with voting to finally approve or adopt those measures that

874
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 10: go into those proclamations that you see that you know,

875
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 10: identify hunt dates, species types, weapon types, et cetera. So

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00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 10: they play a pretty important role. And you know, most

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00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 10: states the number of commissioners is different, but a lot

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00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 10: of times what I've seen is, you know, in that

879
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 10: five to seven range, and they really they are really

880
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 10: tasked with an important role of well, we're seeing the

881
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 10: game agencies and they have budgets, improving budgets, all that

882
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 10: those types.

883
00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: And generally they they're supposed to represent different user groups

884
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: and stakeholders, correct, Like there will be like a commissioner

885
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: that represents the ranching community, There'll be a commissioner that

886
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: represents like outfitters and guides. They'll be a commissioner that

887
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: represents like wildlife biology, et cetera, et cetera. Like that

888
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: is that correct?

889
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's exactly right. So usually you see a few

890
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 10: at large seats. So people fill in those commission roles

891
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 10: for various reasons, but a lot of times, by law,

892
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 10: those commissioners have to represent those different stakeholder groups or

893
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 10: those different demographics. And so, as you mentioned, you'll have

894
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 10: a a rancher or a farmer on the commission you'll

895
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 10: have a hunter and angler. In some instances, you'll have

896
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 10: an indigenous member from a federally recognized tribe. And sometimes

897
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 10: you'll have seats that are filled based off of geography

898
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 10: in different states. And so you know, it's importing to

899
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 10: point out that in most situations, in most states across

900
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 10: our country, commissioners are appointed at the discretion of the governors.

901
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 10: So you have a new governor that comes in office

902
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 10: newly elected, and they essentially appoint a new slate of commissioners.

903
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: And the hope would be.

904
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 10: That those that the governor or the overseeing body points

905
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 10: those commissioners that are qualified to serve in these roles right,

906
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 10: qualified or knowledgeable and doing so represent the best interests

907
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 10: of hunters, anglers and wildlife management.

908
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: Right, Yep, that's not always the case.

909
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's let's kind of pause. I don't I

910
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: don't want you to roll too far ahead of us yet.

911
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: I was I was gonna you already answer my question,

912
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: which is how our wildlife commissioners chosen most of the

913
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: time their governor appointees, and I want to address that

914
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: before you before we move on. In states like Colorado, Washington,

915
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: you may have some other examples that use this system

916
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: where these people are appointed directly by the governor.

917
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: We've seen.

918
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: Wildlife commissioners who are like openly anti hunting end up

919
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: on these commissions, and these are the people who end

920
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: up shaping the policy at least can like affect the

921
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: policy of state fish and game agencies. Is there any

922
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: do you have any other state examples you're aware of

923
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: that were, like, you know, in Washington, things happened like

924
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: spring bear hunting got outlawed. In Colorado, the wildlife commissioners

925
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: got involved with things like the wolf free introduction in

926
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: ways that probably weren't in the best interests of hunters,

927
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: anglers and wildlife management.

928
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 10: Sure, yeah, I mean, you guys have done a phenomenal

929
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 10: job of what's been happening in Colorado and Washington, and

930
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 10: there really aren't whole lot of examples. You know, we'll

931
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 10: touch on kind of what's happened in New Mexico. But

932
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 10: the other one that comes to mind, which wasn't exactly

933
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 10: you know, the full responsibility, responsibility of the Game Commission.

934
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 10: But we saw you know, in New Jersey with the

935
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 10: black bear hunting and trying to reduce black bear hunting.

936
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 10: That wasn't all the Commission's fault, but it was very

937
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 10: much a politically driven effort. So you can you can

938
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 10: you know, say that it was indirectly, you know, attributed

939
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 10: to to commission level impact.

940
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: You know.

941
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 10: You you bring up an important point, which is sometimes

942
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 10: you'll have commissioners that are pointed by the governor that

943
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 10: just do not serve the best interests of the hunting, hunting, angling,

944
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 10: or wildlife management communities. But there's also the flip side, right,

945
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 10: the flip side is that you have these qualified commissioners

946
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 10: that do represent you know, the hunting, angling and wildlife

947
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 10: management world. But at the same time, when they bring

948
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 10: up controversial topics that you know, the hunting, hunting and

949
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 10: angling community want to see brought up, sometimes they're removed.

950
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 10: Sometimes they're removed from those seats, right, any valid justification whatsoever.

951
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's at the will of the governor.

952
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 10: Right, correct, Yeah, absolutely, And so I can get into,

953
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 10: you know a little bit of what New Mexico did

954
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 10: to help.

955
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that. Your home state is New Mexico,

956
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: and up until this past year, New Mexico's wildlife commissioners

957
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: were appointed by the governor. But a bill recently passed

958
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: in New Mexico that mandates that the commissioners be selected

959
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: through a different process. So can you explain what the

960
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: process in New Mexico will be going forward and whether

961
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: you think that's going to be an improvement on the

962
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: current like governor appointed system.

963
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so.

964
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 10: So last year New Mexico munch conservation organizations came together,

965
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 10: formed a coalition and pursued a bill. It's called Senate

966
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 10: Bill five. It was the title of it was Game

967
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 10: Commission Reform. There was a lot in that bill, so

968
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 10: i'll just quickly touch on it. Part of it was

969
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 10: renaming the wildlife the Game and Fish Agency to Department

970
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 10: of Wildlife. Changed the mission of that increased license fees,

971
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 10: which were much needed for game and fish agencies. Our

972
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 10: licenses in New Mexico hadn't been increased and I want

973
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 10: to say around twenty years, so you know, kind of

974
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 10: meeting current cost of living and inflation and adjusting those

975
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 10: prices accordingly, bringing in more funds to the agency. But

976
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 10: the most important piece and the most important piece that's

977
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 10: relevant to this conversation was, you know, the section of

978
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 10: the bill that reformed kind of the way our Wildlife

979
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 10: Commission is created, and so the Wildlife Commission will still

980
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 10: have seven voting members. Instead of being appointed by the governor,

981
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 10: there is now a a Wildlife Commission nominating committee. So

982
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 10: this is a little bit of another layer of protection

983
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 10: that insulates these commissioners from just being appoint for specific

984
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 10: government interest or governor interests.

985
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: Who who makes up that committee? Is it state legislat

986
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: members from the state legislature or who.

987
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 10: So there are members of the state legislature. There's also

988
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 10: the the director, the directors from both of the which

989
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 10: isn't it's actually pretty cool. The directors from you know,

990
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 10: the wildlife conservation biology, wildlife wildlife biology programs at both

991
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 10: of the universities in New Mexico, the large largest university,

992
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 10: so University of New Mexico and New Mexico State University,

993
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 10: as well as some of the directors from the agencies

994
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 10: within the state government. So I want to say it

995
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 10: was you know, the director of or secretary of uh

996
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 10: UH Energy and Minerals, natural Resources, those those types of roles.

997
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 10: So it's a pretty comprehensive list of folks that formed

998
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 10: that nominating committee.

999
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: Great, so now now you'll have this new process and

1000
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: and in your opinion, do you think it's going to

1001
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: be an improvement on how the Commission is able to

1002
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: act in the best interests of the people in New

1003
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: Mexico and the wildlife in the.

1004
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 10: Percent one hundred percent? And you know in that criteria

1005
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 10: for appointing those new those new members to a nominating committee,

1006
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 10: they have some some restrictions to do so. Right, So

1007
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 10: there's a seven, uh, you know, seven commission members, of

1008
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 10: which three of them are at large. So really they

1009
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 10: can be nominated for a lot of different reasons. You know,

1010
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 10: one of the members has to be from a federally

1011
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 10: recognized tribe that represents you know, tribal interests. No more

1012
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 10: than two members can be affiliated with the same political

1013
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 10: Already those initial three at large members. The remaining four

1014
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 10: one of them has to be a farmer or ranter

1015
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 10: who actively farms or ranches where two big game species

1016
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 10: are frequently present.

1017
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: Cool, right, Not someone who's who's.

1018
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 10: A rancher or a farmer that has you know, political

1019
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 10: interests or ties to an administration. They have to be

1020
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 10: in an area where big game are present, so that's employant.

1021
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 10: Another member has it has to be a conservationist working

1022
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 10: from a conservation organization that has been employed in the

1023
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 10: conservation field for at least four years. The other one

1024
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 10: has to be a hunter and angler or you know,

1025
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 10: it could be both, and they had to have had

1026
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 10: a license, a hunting and fishing license.

1027
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 3: For four years.

1028
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 10: And then the last person is a scientist who holds

1029
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 10: at least a master's degree in wildlife biology, conservation biology,

1030
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 10: fishery science, et cetera. And termal limits those commissioners are

1031
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 10: six year terms and they can only serve two terms.

1032
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 10: So you know that and of itself creates a buffer

1033
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 10: from being able to be with you know, appointed for

1034
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 10: a lot of different interests. That brings a lot of

1035
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 10: knowledge and expertise and you know, quite frankly qualified individuals

1036
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 10: to serve on these seats. And then the other important

1037
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 10: piece of that legislation was it is it prevented the

1038
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 10: way it was initially written. Was it created a much

1039
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 10: more formal process for a governor to remove a commission member.

1040
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 10: You know, eight years ago we had two commissioners, a

1041
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 10: chair and the vice chair of the commission here in

1042
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 10: New Mexico. That brought up some topics that were controversial.

1043
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 10: I think those topics, in my opinion, were, you know,

1044
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 10: we're within the best interest of of helping hunting and

1045
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 10: hunters and anglers in New Mexico. As a result of

1046
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 10: those efforts, the governor overnight removed those commissioners.

1047
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's the best thing about this

1048
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: is it kind of puts a roadblock in the way

1049
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: of a governor who might want to like push their

1050
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: own agenda through the state Fishing Game Agency, like like

1051
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: we've seen in states like Colorado. It kind of it

1052
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: puts a stopper on that, which is, in my opinion,

1053
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: a really good thing.

1054
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 10: In these in these processes where you have commissioners representing,

1055
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 10: you know, what's best for the hunting and angling and

1056
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 10: wildlife management world. You know, you want those checks and balances.

1057
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 10: You don't want, you know, a governor to remove commissioner

1058
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 10: because they're doing the right thing. You know, you you

1059
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 10: don't want commissioners serving in these roles for reasons other

1060
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 10: than you know, the best interests of the hunting, angling

1061
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 10: and wildlife management worlds. So it really is a good thing.

1062
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 10: I hope other states, you know, adopt these measures to

1063
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 10: really you know, insulate their com miss to best serve

1064
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 10: members of those states.

1065
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of this goes into effect next.

1066
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 10: Year, so we're really going to get to see when

1067
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 10: you know, as rubber as rubber meets the road, what

1068
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 10: this looks like. But I I imagine that it's going

1069
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 10: to be nothing but good news for for the state

1070
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 10: of New Mexico, and hopefully other states see it as

1071
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 10: a as a model and start to adopt it if

1072
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 10: they don't already have a similar model, you know, in place.

1073
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 10: The one thing I did want to mention Brody was,

1074
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 10: you know, in that in that section to remove a commissioner,

1075
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 10: there was a lengthy section there that provided more of

1076
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 10: that formal, you know process to remove a commissioner, and

1077
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 10: at the time the governor ended up vetowing or mind

1078
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 10: vetoing a lot of that section to the only remaining

1079
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 10: So the only remaining section there for the removal process

1080
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 10: is a commissioner can be removed if it is deemed

1081
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 10: that they are and you know, if they're illustrating incompetence

1082
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 10: and you know, neglect of duty or malfeasance in that

1083
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 10: in that office. Now there's similar efforts in this legislative

1084
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 10: session to kind of reinsert that language. So there's a

1085
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 10: much more formal process that has to go through the

1086
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 10: courts if in fact, it is deemed that a commissioner

1087
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 10: should be removed. So that's that's important piece worth noting,

1088
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 10: and I think it provides those different layers of of uh,

1089
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 10: you know, oversight before something like that happens.

1090
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: One last thing about these state wildlife commissions that I

1091
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: want to I want you to talk about that again.

1092
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: People may not be aware of like these people you

1093
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: should look at them almost like one of your congressional

1094
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: representatives or state legislature represents, Like they're there to represent you,

1095
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: they work for you. So and people may not be

1096
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: aware that they can interact with these people and communicate

1097
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: with them. And so I just just wanted you to

1098
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: touch on how people can do that, how can they

1099
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: let their voices be heard to these these state wildlife commissions.

1100
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 10: And it's it's incredibly important that people understand that they

1101
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 10: can connect with these these commissioners. Why because a lot

1102
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 10: of times these commissioners represent those constituents, right, So if

1103
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 10: there's an issue that you're facing, if there's a problem

1104
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 10: or even an opportunity in your areas, or something you

1105
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 10: do when it comes to hunting and fishing, like being

1106
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 10: able to communicate that to a commissioner so they can

1107
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 10: then also carry a little bit of that way and

1108
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 10: advocate it at the department level is important and so

1109
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 10: you know, most game and phish websites have a commission

1110
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 10: page where it identifies all the different commissioners that are

1111
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 10: sitting in those seats, provides contact information, usually their email.

1112
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 10: You can reach out to them via via email and

1113
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 10: express your concern, concerns, frustrations, or you know, commend them

1114
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 10: for the good work there they could they could be doing.

1115
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 10: Another important resource a way to commission to communicate with

1116
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 10: those commissioners is at the public meeting level. Most state

1117
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 10: game departments have public commission meetings. You know, this is

1118
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 10: where those rules and regulations and setting budgets and approving

1119
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 10: them and you know, hearing from what the department wants

1120
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 10: to do.

1121
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: But needs that approval. This is the this is the

1122
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: setting for that.

1123
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 10: And so most of these commission meetings are publicly advertised

1124
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 10: via the game department's websites.

1125
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: You can go and attend these meetings.

1126
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 10: There's also and I would say all of the meetings

1127
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 10: there's a carve out for public participation where you can

1128
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 10: go up there, you know, and talk about the issues

1129
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 10: that are that are most concerning to you. And at

1130
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 10: the end of the day, if you don't you don't

1131
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 10: feel comfortable doing that in a public setting, you can

1132
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 10: at least introduce yourself and meet the commissioners you know,

1133
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 10: in person at these at these commission level meetings. And

1134
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 10: I would say those those two are probably the most

1135
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 10: important ways to communicate with your commissioners to hope we

1136
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 10: see the work, the good work be done and reflect

1137
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 10: the best interests of the hunting and angling and wildlife

1138
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 10: management communities.

1139
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll often be like, uh, like a question, comment, opinion,

1140
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: like survey type thing attached to those meetings that you

1141
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: can fill out too, And and that goes to those

1142
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: commissioners as well.

1143
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 10: The only the only thing I want to point out,

1144
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 10: it's the commission is you know, with the current attacks

1145
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 10: that you've seen hunting and angling at the at the

1146
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 10: commission levels, not only important commissioners, that's that's an important piece,

1147
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 10: but also reaching out to the different you know, to

1148
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 10: the agencies directly as well as to the different conservation

1149
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 10: organizations that.

1150
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: Are that are advocating for these bills.

1151
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 10: Are you know, working day and night to see you know,

1152
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 10: commission reform take place like it's worth it's waiting to

1153
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 10: reach out and support those organizations because those are the

1154
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 10: ones that are going to go to bat for you

1155
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 10: on issues like this, and they're you know, the tip

1156
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 10: of the speer when it comes to seeing legislation like

1157
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 10: what happened in New Mexico get over the finish line.

1158
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 10: So I want to emphasize, you know, reaching out and

1159
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 10: supporting those conservational organizations because they do play a critical

1160
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 10: role in the school this whole piece.

1161
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: Yep, for sure, organizations like yours, New Mexico Wildlife Federation

1162
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: you mentioned, But any of them, you know, b h A,

1163
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: they're they're all, they're all working for you. So absolutely

1164
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: all right, Jeremy, we got to move on. But thanks

1165
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: for thanks for joining us today and talking to us.

1166
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 10: Thanks guys for having me. I got to go get

1167
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 10: some lunch after hearing Lucas talk about that. Yeah, delays

1168
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 10: and curry and smash grass breast. I gotta go eat,

1169
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 10: but I appreciate you all for letting me chat with

1170
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 10: you today and I look for the rest of the show.

1171
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: Great.

1172
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: Thanks man.

1173
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: Thanks Jeremy, all right, you learn anything there? I always

1174
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: learned something when I'm around Jeremy.

1175
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: All right, man, this one, I'm hoping it'll be fun.

1176
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna do some some fan emails and we'll try

1177
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: and you know, get some feedback from the crew here.

1178
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: This is This is one that I think is very

1179
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: interesting and I'll read through it here for you guys.

1180
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: This is coming from Peter in Vancouver Island, British Columbia.

1181
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: Family members and I have been traveling northeast Montana each

1182
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: fall to hunt pheasants for about fifteen years. We've done

1183
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: our homework, scoping out habitat, establishing relationships with landowners. It's

1184
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: been a great time, but changes our foot recently past

1185
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: Senate Bill five fourteen. We'll give Montana residents a head

1186
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: start on the season by ten days. My cohort and

1187
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: I obviously think this is a bad idea. We will

1188
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: probably head to North Dakota for next season opener. I

1189
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 2: think this is a good one for your show to tackle,

1190
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: including why the state doesn't give preferential treatment to residents

1191
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: for fishing. Quite certain, the same folks from western Montana

1192
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: clamoring for preferential treatment for upland hunting in eastern Montana

1193
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: would strongly oppose such a change strictly for economic reasons. Okay,

1194
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: this guy is bummed that he can't hunt the dumb

1195
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 2: young of the year birds anymore before they get shot at. Like,

1196
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: I get it, I pheasn't hunt. They're a lot easier

1197
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: to kill in the first week of the season. Like,

1198
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 2: I'll let everyone waigh in, but I'm gonna say one

1199
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: thing to this guy first, And I'm not trying to

1200
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: be confrontational. It's just the reality of like being a

1201
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: non resident, I cannot go to British Columbia and hunt

1202
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: big game unless I hire a guide, like preferential treatment

1203
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: for right, It's just the way things work. As far

1204
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: as his fishing thing, like fishing and hunting, it's like

1205
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: you can't compare it. It's like apples and orners. But

1206
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: I'll give you an example where resident anglers are highly

1207
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: prioritizized over non redsid and that's Alaska. Like we deal

1208
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: with it every year, man, Like the limits are very

1209
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: strict compared to what residents can do for many species

1210
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 2: of fish, so states do in some cases prioritize residents

1211
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: for fishing, and like it or not, this is just

1212
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: like a larger trend that's been going on across Western

1213
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: states for the last several years. The fact is, like,

1214
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: no state is under the obligation to provide equal access

1215
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: and opportunity to that state's game resources to non residents,

1216
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: like they're just not states could be a state could

1217
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: be like, we're not letting any resident, non residence hunt here.

1218
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: The reason these things, these things happen is because state

1219
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: fish and game agencies and wildlife commissions, like we just

1220
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: talked about, they're under an obligation to try and satisfy

1221
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: they're resident hunters, Like they got to keep those people happy.

1222
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: They need the money from non resident license sales, like

1223
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. But there's a social component

1224
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: to this, and that's that residents get priority and their

1225
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: satisfaction with their experience is important. You've seen this happen

1226
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: over the past few years. Colorado no longer issues over

1227
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: the counter archery l licenses to non residents. Wyoming Colorado

1228
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: cut non resident rifle draw tags pretty significantly. Montana reduced

1229
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: non resident mule deer tags. So, like, this is a

1230
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: thing that's that's been happening across the West and it

1231
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: and it is the result of kind of how residents

1232
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: feel about their hunting experience. I feel for you, like

1233
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: I understand it, but uh, you know, I'm kind of

1234
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: like it is what it is.

1235
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 5: Man.

1236
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: I understand why you'd go to North Dakota, but you

1237
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: know it's ten days out of a three month long season.

1238
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: If you want to continue to hunt Montana, you could

1239
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: you're just missing the first ten days of the season.

1240
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have any thoughts.

1241
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: I agreed, you nailed it.

1242
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're spot on. I mean, North Dakota is probably

1243
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 5: going to see a little influx if a lot of

1244
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 5: folks in these same shoes as this fella. But I

1245
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 5: don't know, think of the positives. Like you said, it

1246
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 5: is what it is. So opening day won't be as chaotic,

1247
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 5: right that next week might be that much easier and

1248
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 5: you might find just as many birds, especially if you've

1249
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 5: done your homework and you got places to hunt.

1250
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 2: There could be like some minor economic impacts to small

1251
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: towns out in eastern Montana that you know, may not

1252
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: get you know, people coming into the restaurants or the

1253
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: campgrounds or what are as many you know, I will

1254
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 2: say that the pheasant opener coincides with the antelope opener,

1255
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know how much of an

1256
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: impact it's going to have a.

1257
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 5: Busy weekend randal, you got nothing there?

1258
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 4: Oh, I just.

1259
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's kind of baked into the system,

1260
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, obviously, like there's no perfect balance.

1261
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what that would look like.

1262
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 6: If you know, I'm sure there's somebody who lives in

1263
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 6: a state with real bad hunting and fishing, although I

1264
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 6: think there's you can always find like everywhere has something

1265
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 6: to offer. But if everybody could buy a resident license

1266
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 6: in Montana, that wouldn't work, right, And we can't shut

1267
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 6: out and on a residence completely, Like I wouldn't want

1268
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 6: to do that, but you're always going to have to

1269
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,440
Speaker 6: find some middle ground between those two extremes.

1270
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: And so.

1271
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 4: It's true. The overall trend.

1272
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 6: Is that non resident opportunities are declining across the West,

1273
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 6: and yeah, like I'm affected by that as well, like

1274
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 6: states where I have bonus points and preference points that

1275
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 6: are limiting the percentage of non resident tags. You know,

1276
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 6: it's hurting me as well. So I don't know what

1277
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 6: the perfect situation looks like. I think we'd all like

1278
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 6: to turn back the clock to the glory days of

1279
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 6: the whatever, the seventies, eighties, nineties, when it seemed like

1280
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 6: you could, if you had the money, you could travel

1281
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 6: across the West and get tags and hunt as much

1282
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 6: as you wanted. But the reality is it's a finite resource,

1283
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 6: and so we're left with this unfortunate balancing act that,

1284
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 6: as you point out, it sort of structurally is tipped

1285
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 6: in the favor of residents pretty extremely.

1286
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. And it's not just a

1287
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: Western issue. I get in a white tail tag in

1288
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: Iowa and you'll know what I'm talking about. It's not easy.

1289
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: All right, There you go. Good one.

1290
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry to the guy from from BC. I hope

1291
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: you have a good hunt in North Dakota. All right,

1292
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: Next one? Where is it? This one's kind of long.

1293
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm and try and shorten it as much as I can.

1294
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: I would really like to get your opinion to help

1295
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 2: settle a bit of neighborhood edit etiquette question involving three

1296
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 2: white tail carcasses and my neighbors love of their dogs.

1297
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 2: I live on the outskirts of town in a development

1298
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: consists about fifteen homes that sit on four to five

1299
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: acre parcels that are a mixture of yard woods in prairie.

1300
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: I have three acres of woods that are between my

1301
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: house and the county road. I have good relationships with

1302
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: all my neighbors, most of which have a dog or

1303
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: two that can run relatively free. Last year, our group

1304
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 2: shot three deer and we processed them at my place.

1305
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: I had three carcasses had to dispose of. I thought

1306
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: nothing of it and put them out of sight from

1307
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 2: the road out in the middle of his woods. You know,

1308
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: it says it's cold here, so there wouldn't be any

1309
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: concern over smell, and by springtime all that would be

1310
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: left was a few bones. My first mistake is he

1311
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: didn't do this over the cover of darkness. I don't

1312
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: know about that if that was his first mistake. One

1313
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: of the neighbors saw me dragging carcass into the woods,

1314
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: and within a day I had multiple people questioning me.

1315
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: They're a little irritated about the carcasses and the dogs

1316
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: getting into them, and the possibility that he was attracting

1317
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: predators to the area. He brushed off those concerns, but

1318
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 2: he did find it humorous when he saw a dog

1319
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: from three doors down walking up the road a month

1320
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: later with a deer leg in his mouth. Anyway, he's

1321
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: now wondering, what's your take? What should what should you do?

1322
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: Find somewhere else to dump them, wait till dark and

1323
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: sneak in there. You know, this isn't a huge problem necessarily,

1324
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: it's your property and you can do what you want.

1325
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. Your neighbors do

1326
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: have a point, and I'd rather have happy neighbors like uh,

1327
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's not too hard to throw deer bones,

1328
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: like a whole dear bone boned out carcass into a

1329
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: trash can I do it all the time, and if

1330
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: coyotes do come in, they will mess up a dog

1331
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 2: or two. There's nothing illegal about what you're doing doing

1332
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: more than likely, but there possibly could be, and you

1333
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: should consider disposing of those carcasses properly, not only because

1334
01:13:53,680 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: of the dogs, because of c w D concerns. I

1335
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: don't know if you're getting your deer tested or not,

1336
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 2: but Dumping carcasses is a good way to spread CWD around.

1337
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: So whatever you do, don't go dump them out on

1338
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: public land somewhere. That's like, that's the main thing. Put

1339
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: them in the trash is the is the best thing.

1340
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: I would say. I don't know if you guys feel

1341
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: like I'm being a little hard on this guy, but no,

1342
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: that's a honest true. I mean, Steve throws deer carcasses

1343
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 2: on the roof of his Yeah, it's on the roof.

1344
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 7: At least if you don't want your neighbor, if you

1345
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 7: don't want your dog eating deer, that's on the neighbors,

1346
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 7: don't let them go in the neighbors true, right, Like

1347
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 7: your dog's probably wouldn't be going. Like if my dog

1348
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 7: goes over in the neighbor's yard, I say, hey, yep,

1349
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 7: get over here.

1350
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 6: I don't know I agree with I mean, if if

1351
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 6: the carcasses on his property, uh, sounds like your neighbor

1352
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 6: needs a fence.

1353
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

1354
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 2: Like nobody can. It's like it's like everyone agrees that

1355
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: it's cool that the dog's growing around. I don't think

1356
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: he's saying these dogs are a problem.

1357
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 6: Well, I know, but like if you're the type of

1358
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 6: person that doesn't want your dog getting into stuff and

1359
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 6: you got an issue.

1360
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: With right, yeah, keep your dog on your property.

1361
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I don't know.

1362
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 7: I don't think the neighbors are helping that guy pay

1363
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 7: his property taxes, so they don't really have to say.

1364
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 6: Let me add another hot tip. This isn't really pertinent,

1365
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 6: but along the lines of the brass, don't be the

1366
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 6: guy that drives to a trailhead and dumps like four

1367
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 6: why tail carcasses three feet off the gravel in the bushes.

1368
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 6: That's that's where I have an issue with people like

1369
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 6: just being sloppy public land stewards. You know, as far

1370
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 6: as I'm concerned, if you want to leave your carcasses

1371
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 6: in your in your woods, in your living room, whatever.

1372
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: No, like, like I said, I'm cool with it. But

1373
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: if you want, if it's like, if you're weighing how

1374
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 2: important it is to like not have a beef with

1375
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: your neighbors, you know, yeah, you can throw those carcasses,

1376
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh sure, Yeah.

1377
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 6: And plenty of people do that who don't have access

1378
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 6: to woods where they let them think.

1379
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: You know, yea all the time.

1380
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: All right, set this one's I'll let you hit this one. First,

1381
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't mean this in any sort of critical, judgmental,

1382
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 2: or confrontational way. I'm just curious about your thoughts on

1383
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: meat from fur bearing animals recently. I don't know how

1384
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: recent this is. It's talking about part of my plate muskrats,

1385
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: which he's just catching up. I guess anyway, it still applies.

1386
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: Steve says he's trapped perhaps a thousand muskrats but only

1387
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,440
Speaker 2: eating twenty. That got me wondering, do you find that hypocritical?

1388
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: Since we're always championing want and waste laws and maximizing

1389
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 2: the use from the meat? What do trappers do with

1390
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: all the meat if they're not eating dog food? Would

1391
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: it also be okay? I'm not sure where he's going

1392
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: with this part. Would it also be okay if someone

1393
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 2: turned a whole white tail into dog food? Like, let's

1394
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: not even worry about that yet, Let's stick with the

1395
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: trap and thing. I just think it's an interesting question.

1396
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: I don't mean it to be condemning. It doesn't bother me.

1397
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 2: In fact, i'd really like to get into trapping myself.

1398
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: I just haven't made the effort. But I'm interested in

1399
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: how you deal with that potential conflict.

1400
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,480
Speaker 7: I mean, some things are good to eat, like beaver muskrats,

1401
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 7: but yeah, we ate. We ate bobcat down Texas a

1402
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago. But if it was like as

1403
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 7: far as like want waste laws, if states required you

1404
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 7: to eat coyotes, no one would trap or kill kyo.

1405
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no want waste law for many furthering.

1406
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: Species, and if there is, it's just like you have

1407
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: to harvest the firs.

1408
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I think it's okay to

1409
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: have a resource that you're using, that's using for fur

1410
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: and it's not it's it's okay that you're not using

1411
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: the I know we harp on that all the time,

1412
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 2: the meat thing. But like, look, man, like it's okay

1413
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: to go trap a fox or a skunk or like

1414
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 2: whatever fur bear and not eat it. You know, you

1415
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to feel bad about that.

1416
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, but if you know, if you want to try

1417
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 7: some bobcat backstraps, yeah, let's get weird raccoon.

1418
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: We've got raccoon rest. So, like there is opportunity for

1419
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: to eat some of these things, for sure, but I

1420
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: don't think you should necessarily feel obligated to do so.

1421
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like shooting a what is it the fall

1422
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 7: bears in Alaska? You're not required to because it just

1423
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 7: taste terrible.

1424
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, all right, last one. I threw a venison

1425
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: shank into my instant pot last weekend. Everything was great

1426
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 2: except the last meal. One of the last bites, I

1427
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 2: ended up finding a mushroomed bullet. I initially thought it

1428
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: was a chunk of bone. My question I tried asking

1429
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 2: Google and couldn't seem to word it right to get

1430
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: the answer I was looking for was did that instant

1431
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: pot just make a lead based broth that I consumed

1432
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: entirely by myself? And should I be concerned? I can't

1433
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: say I know the science behind pressure cooking meat and

1434
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: lead bullets together. No, you do not have to worry

1435
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 2: about it. Otherwise, like people who shoot all kinds of

1436
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: small game and birds would die of lead poisoning. Like

1437
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: we're picking lead out of meat that we've cooked all

1438
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: the time. Humans can't absorb led through their solid lead

1439
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: through their digestive system. Lead poisoning is like from inhaling

1440
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 2: dust particles from old lead based paint and things like that. Now,

1441
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 2: if you cooked it past like six hundred degrees then

1442
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: you'd be in trouble because that lead would melt.

1443
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 4: I'd rather find that lead in the in the crockpot

1444
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,480
Speaker 4: than in a turd, you know, just to be safe.

1445
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 2: Right right, But no, it's it's not gonna hurt you.

1446
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: Your your gut is not as strong as like an

1447
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: eagle or a condor where you're gonna break that lead

1448
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: down to the point where it's going to poison you.

1449
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 5: I gotta know what that shank looked like and who shot?

1450
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: I was just gonna sayroom bullet. Listen, it wasn't him.

1451
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: Give this guy credit. What's his name?

1452
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: Brian shot?

1453
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: But hold on, I shortened this thing for to make

1454
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 2: it shorter.

1455
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1456
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 2: He that bullet was already in there. He just found

1457
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: it in there. Yeah.

1458
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 5: Well healed over and he couldn't tell huh. Interesting. Wow, Yeah,

1459
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 5: you never know what you're gonna bite into in there.

1460
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: That's it for the the Meat Eater correspondence inbox.

1461
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: Did Jill?

1462
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the chat saying?

1463
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: Chats trying to figure out a way to save the

1464
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: show starting underground letter campaigns. Oh good, So we'll see

1465
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: how that plays out for them to get an update

1466
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: on that. This is from popa medic bopa's for Seth

1467
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: two part question r on not two parts, but it's

1468
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: just long Seth. I'm trying to save some money by

1469
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: making my own predator bait for trapping. I'm using a

1470
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: commercial bait solution with sodium benzon eate. I don't have

1471
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: any beaver meat at the moment, but I do have

1472
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: two frozen bobcats. Should I use the bobcat meat or

1473
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: wait until I have a beaver targeting coyotes? Primarily coyotes

1474
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: if you're a West Coast child? How also? How tainted? Thanks?

1475
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of.

1476
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 7: Bait and lore makers would say that bobcat's better than

1477
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 7: beaver meat, right. I know Steve right now has a

1478
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 7: jar of bobcat meat in his garage. That's he's tainting

1479
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 7: for bait for But he'd be good with either one, right, Yeah,

1480
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 7: go with you the one. But I do think I've

1481
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 7: never made bait before, but I think people prefer bobcat

1482
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 7: meat over anything.

1483
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: Why so use the bobcat?

1484
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: Try it after we just told you you should be

1485
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 2: eating it.

1486
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: Let us know before March fifth how it went for

1487
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: Mogor question for Randall and these remaining few five radio

1488
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: live episodes. Will there be a Butcher's Crossing review or

1489
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: should we no longer expect it? Thank you so much,

1490
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, Mogor, you gotta do it for.

1491
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: Is that your number one choice? Could we ask Mogor

1492
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 4: in the chat if that's his number one choice?

1493
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: You can get a top three from Mogor.

1494
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I could get a top three. The issue

1495
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 6: is Mogor, we have a limited number of shows. I

1496
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 6: will only be on a few of them because I

1497
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 6: have a bit of travel coming up in the month

1498
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 6: of February, and at this point, knowing that I only

1499
01:22:55,040 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 6: have a set number of movie clubs, I'm really thinking

1500
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 6: about opening up the catalog of films i'd like to

1501
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 6: I'm entertaining the idea of Jurassic Park, Congo, any sort

1502
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 6: of Michael Crichton based wildlife centric film.

1503
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 4: I want to get loose with it.

1504
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 6: I feel like we have this platform that we can

1505
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 6: now use to just transgress all boundaries of good taste

1506
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 6: and judgment.

1507
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,799
Speaker 2: The rules have been thrown out the windows. Yeah, maybe deliberate,

1508
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: free to do whatever.

1509
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe we do do the Deliverance movie club. But yeah,

1510
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 6: if you have if you have strong thoughts, mogor. I

1511
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 6: would like to uh, I would like to throw you

1512
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 6: a bone, So tell me your number one movie?

1513
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: Will do it? Cool? Let us know from Brian Lammers.

1514
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: It's also a loyal, loyal live watcher Cal.

1515
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: Who update on Cow? Has the crew been in contact?

1516
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 2: Was this Cow guy?

1517
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: I've forgotten. I tried to and I don't remember who

1518
01:23:59,520 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: that is.

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Speaker 2: I tried texting Cal yesterday about the pheasant thing we

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: were talking about earlier. Still haven't heard from him.

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01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard. He's been real busy.

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01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 6: He had time for a couple of beers on Friday.

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01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 6: Oh and he texted me over the weekend to ask

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01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 6: me to plug his trailer in so that the batteries

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01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 6: weren't damaged by the cold. He just wanted to maintain

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01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 6: his batteries. He has time for an occasional long phone call.

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 6: I don't know if people out there know this, but

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01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 6: when you get a phone call from Cal, it typically

1529
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 6: goes until it has to be you have to hang

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01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 6: up because someone needs to do something else. It's sort

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01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 6: of an open ended conversation. He might have another conversation

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 6: with someone in the room with him as you're on

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 6: the phone with him. He's gotten a couple of those.

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01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 6: He seems to be doing well, but very obviously there's

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01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 6: a lot going on, so it was very stressed. And

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 6: but yeah he is still fighting time to wet the

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01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 6: whistle every now and then.

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01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would say, if you haven't listened to

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01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: Cal's Week in Review in these last oh yeah, six

1540
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: seven years that it's been running, now is a good

1541
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: time to do it because it's a whole new perspective.

1542
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: He's got a he's got a very different job than

1543
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: he used to have, and he talks about it at

1544
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: the top of the show every week. The stuff he's doing,

1545
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: where he's going, I would I would recommend it.

1546
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still hoping I can get him to come

1547
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 6: over for STU this week. Got a lot of stew

1548
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 6: need some mouths.

1549
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: No, I want to do a couple more because I

1550
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to be hosting this thing

1551
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: before the end. You really okay?

1552
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there haven't been a lot of direct questions

1553
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,799
Speaker 1: that usually gets. People are mostly talking about the show ending, which.

1554
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: Is I mean, Randall hijack the whole show. You know

1555
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: what's funny.

1556
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about this.

1557
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 6: I got a d M yesterday that said, can you

1558
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 6: just go f off and not be on every podcast?

1559
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: Let it out?

1560
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,879
Speaker 4: I feel the same way you love yourself.

1561
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: We get it.

1562
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 6: It's too much or something along those lines. And it

1563
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 6: hadn't occurred to me that now.

1564
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: I didn't check who sent that to you.

1565
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 4: Did I've just showed up to a podcast that I'm

1566
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 4: not even supposed to be on. So maybe that guy

1567
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 4: is a point.

1568
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: That is my burner Instagram first through the door at

1569
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: like ten with two bags of chips and a diet coke.

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01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 6: It's not because I love myself, It's because I love

1571
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 6: you guys. If I wasn't here, i'd be up sitting

1572
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 6: in my office alone staring at books.

1573
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 4: I can come in here and.

1574
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to show. But it's making me more excited

1575
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 1: for the big blowout used firearms.

1576
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 6: The blowout spectacular is gonna Oh god, I'm so excited.

1577
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: One more Phil Okay, come on, man, guys, get the questions.

1578
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: The first one I see that catches my eye gets red.

1579
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 5: Mmm.

1580
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: You guys have many plans this weekend.

1581
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 5: We have a lot of exclamation points.

1582
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 4: Somebody said good taste and judgment.

1583
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Where is Randall getting his haircut on Radio Life.

1584
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 2: It sounds like a great.

1585
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 6: We should do that for the grand blowout spectacular clippers

1586
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 6: at home.

1587
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 4: No, no, we're not cutting it that much.

1588
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 7: Oh you know we should do is have ten people

1589
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 7: involved in each each person gets like thirty seconds.

1590
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 4: Oh oh on my hair.

1591
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: Your hair, We could put your hair in the auction

1592
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 2: House of Oddities.

1593
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: We should do that.

1594
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 5: Donate that hair.

1595
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 2: At this point, like I said, things are just falling

1596
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 2: apart here.

1597
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: Brody closed his computer already.

1598
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, that's all we got for you today, guys.

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01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining. Tune in next week.

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01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 4: We love you guys.

1601
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 6: The Radio Live going away is not in any way

1602
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 6: a reflection on our love for the crowd here.

1603
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 4: So see you next week.

1604
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: Have a great week. Bye. Should I play the outro?

1605
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 3: Fill?

1606
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 4: You're usually so timely?

1607
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just thinking about I just don't want

1608
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: the show to hit