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Speaker 5: Here's Paul Calvic. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 5: So around the nest, everywhere you look. Here at State

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Speaker 5: the game plan all right for Sunday against the Niners.

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Speaker 5: Except instead of noun, we're gonna make it a verb.

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Speaker 5: Truck how about that.

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact.

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Speaker 5: So, you know what, we need a couple of guys

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Speaker 6: All right, thanks for having, Thanks for having.

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Speaker 5: When I say trucking to defender, dude, do visions come

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Speaker 5: think of moments where you just flatten that guy or

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Speaker 6: But no, I'm not. I'm far from that now.

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Speaker 1: So you know what, Marcell, We're gonna go ahead, and

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Speaker 5: Yea, Marcel, take us inside the mind of a player

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Speaker 7: And though this is this is a land of opportunity,

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Speaker 1: Let me just say right now, too Paully to jump

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Speaker 1: So that's an area that I think the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see how often Trey McBride gets into the

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Speaker 10: Really, I feel like I'm doing the same thing. I'm

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Speaker 10: just trying to get open, and you know, Jacoby's done

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Speaker 2: Scoring for us.

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Speaker 5: Here's the thing that reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald. Trey McBride.

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Speaker 5: He could have eleven targets, make ten catches. He's still

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Speaker 5: But usually those are the best players, are they not?

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Speaker 5: They're like the most competitive and driven right.

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Speaker 6: As it is? Yes, it is?

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Speaker 7: And larryote kerk before we break the huddle.

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Speaker 6: I'm open right you break. Those are the greats.

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Speaker 5: And you know what you know, it's crazy, real quick

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Speaker 5: now are getting getting double covered more than Trey McBride.

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Speaker 5: One is Jamar Chase, So I mean he is getting

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know.

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Speaker 1: Eleven personnel is the main personnel group for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: It keeps rising and run down. It's up to forty

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Speaker 2: That is a huge advantage and run down.

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Speaker 5: Who was the guy you said created you?

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Speaker 2: Wolf?

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Speaker 5: Who was the guy who you said created you? And

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Speaker 5: that's how you went into special teams, Pro Bowls and.

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Speaker 2: Bill boyd Bates.

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Speaker 5: That's it. Yeah, George Kittle, I think created Portray McBride

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Speaker 5: And all right, we'll come back, we'll talk to Marcel's Ship.

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Speaker 5: We'll go back in the cold tub time machine. Remember

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Speaker 5: Cody Simon coming up, special guest. It is a big

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Speaker 5: red rage from Flanker Kitchen at Sports Bar on the

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Speaker 5: Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium, all presented by Emergency Air.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Cardinals got in the huddle and they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's give it to Ship again. You gotta love the

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Speaker 4: One touchdown, three touchdowns today for Marcel's Ship.

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Speaker 1: And there's nothing like a blood instrument to cause a

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Speaker 5: Ship just runs into a safety and blows him out

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Speaker 1: And Marcel Ship said, look, buddy, it's you and it's me,

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Speaker 1: And how do you like the way this feels ship.

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Speaker 4: Running like twenty five thirty spins off two tackles.

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Speaker 5: There it is the Jersey spin ship.

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Speaker 4: To ten, the fun touchdown eighty yards, Barcell Ship.

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Speaker 5: Put the football what I'm talking about? Why not Marcell

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Speaker 5: Ship the tugboat.

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Speaker 11: It's the tugboat, baby, Marcel's ship.

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Speaker 5: All right, So maybe it was the radio boat. Maybe

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Speaker 5: you know, the whole tugboat thing. Wait a minute, tugboat,

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Speaker 5: Come on, you just win eighty yards. That's no stake

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Speaker 5: in tugboat boat, right, yes, your darn too. None now one,

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, all right, our special guest, Marcel Ship

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Speaker 5: here on the big red rage, presented by emergency, are

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Speaker 5: all presented. We are alive. What a beautiful evening. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Farm Stadium. Outstanding experience. In a moment, we're going to

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Speaker 5: now we're going into the cold tub time machine talking

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Speaker 5: about Marcell Ship. Arizona Cardinal two thousand and one, two

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Speaker 5: what are you thinking of? Does that bring you back

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Speaker 5: a little bit.

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Speaker 6: All the time? Man?

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Speaker 7: Just hearing that horn go off every time I get

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Speaker 6: Your own horn.

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Speaker 7: True, yeah, yeah, so yeah, it definitely brings me back

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Speaker 1: So when somebody walks up to you, and you know this,

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Speaker 2: What is it like, Marcel? What do you tell them?

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Speaker 7: Playing the NFL was the greatest accomplishment I've achieved, and

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Speaker 5: And you definitely achieved it. You definitely earned it. You

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Speaker 6: It saw a guy that would do anything for the team.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was a running back, and I never

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Speaker 7: I never I'll do whatever it took to get on

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Speaker 1: So so, for the most part, are running back, and

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Speaker 7: The easiest was running the ball because you could control

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Speaker 2: That was the definition of sticking your face into the fans.

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Speaker 1: For me, Marcel, let me just say this, not that

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Speaker 2: Okay, as you well know, once you get twenty barsel,

439
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Speaker 2: they can't take it from you.

440
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Speaker 6: Oh they can't. No, Oh no they can't. They cannot see.

441
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Speaker 5: It used to be twenty two, then it was twenty four,

442
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Speaker 5: and now it's twenty six. It's amazing. It just keeps

443
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Speaker 5: going up a little bit. I'm not you know, I

444
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Speaker 5: don't know if there's been some creative accounting on Pro

445
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Speaker 5: Football Reference. I'm gonna have to go back and do.

446
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Speaker 2: Really go google.

447
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Speaker 5: Okay, so your rookie year, you make the team undrafted

448
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Speaker 5: and you didn't get a ton of carries, but your

449
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Speaker 5: second year two thousand and two, you end up being

450
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Speaker 5: the Cardinals leading rusher over a nindred yards rushing four

451
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Speaker 5: and a half yards of carry. Oh three, here comes

452
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Speaker 5: Emmitt Smith. Yet you still let the team.

453
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Speaker 2: In rushing that year?

454
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Speaker 5: Correct?

455
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah?

456
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Speaker 5: What was it like sharing a running back room, by

457
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Speaker 5: the way, with an all time great like Emmitt Smith?

458
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Speaker 6: It was absolutely amazing. It was amazing.

459
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Speaker 2: You know.

460
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Speaker 7: I grew up watching the guy, and my whole entire

461
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Speaker 7: house loved Emitt Smith. So now I'm he's sitting behind

462
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Speaker 7: me in the meeting room asking me questions. I'm like,

463
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Speaker 7: wait this It was a little were but you know,

464
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Speaker 7: I learned a lot from that guy. I learned a

465
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Speaker 7: lot from him. He came in, he was a great teammate,

466
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Speaker 7: great leader, and he welcomed me and he taught me

467
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Speaker 7: a lot.

468
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Speaker 1: So merch So what do you miss the most right

469
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Speaker 1: now about playing the game of football?

470
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Speaker 2: What do you miss it? What do you not miss?

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Speaker 13: Well?

472
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Speaker 7: I can say what I don't miss is waking up

473
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Speaker 7: the morning after okay, yeah, because the body, oh man,

474
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 7: this the body is just tore up. But what I

475
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 7: do miss is, you know, being with the guys in

476
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Speaker 7: the locker room, going to practice and having a whole team, you.

477
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Speaker 6: Know, with one goal in mind.

478
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Speaker 7: You know, I miss I missed that, like I miss

479
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Speaker 7: those things from the war with your guys, and you know,

480
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 7: getting knocked down, getting back up, knocking somebody else down,

481
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Speaker 7: the ups and downs of the game, and you know

482
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Speaker 7: things like that I do miss.

483
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Speaker 5: All right. So two, you had a three touchdown game

484
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Speaker 5: against the Rams. You then did that later in six

485
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Speaker 5: against the Rams. What was it about the Rams?

486
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Speaker 7: I'm know I have my eighty r touchdown against the Rams.

487
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Speaker 7: You know, you know, I guess the Rams. I had

488
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Speaker 7: the number. I had the number.

489
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Speaker 6: I guess I just called it like that.

490
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Speaker 2: Was there a team that had your number?

491
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there were a few of them.

492
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Speaker 7: Kansas City, Kansas City. They they were hitting me so hard.

493
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Speaker 7: I'm like, what did I do to you, Kansas City Chiefs.

494
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Speaker 7: And it was a bad game. And Damien Anderson was

495
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Speaker 7: my backup. So this is the fourth courting the coach

496
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Speaker 7: like or so you're done? And Damian Anderson's on the

497
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Speaker 7: kick return team and the heat limps off the field,

498
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Speaker 7: so I have to go back and I'm like, I

499
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Speaker 7: think you saw me getting hit.

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Speaker 5: All right, here's Dennis screen our Jim Mohundra went into

501
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Speaker 5: the Archives two thousand and five. Dennis screen Head, coach

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Speaker 5: of the car holds on Marcel's ship.

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Speaker 14: Marcelle's ship is my kind of guy. It doesn't take

504
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Speaker 14: much to figure that out. Guys that are not drafted

505
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Speaker 14: that bust away to the National Football League, or guys

506
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Speaker 14: that I've had the most respect for throughout the league.

507
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Speaker 14: Doesn't mean I don't like first rounders or second rounds,

508
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Speaker 14: because I do, but I have a little bit extra

509
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Speaker 14: for those kind of guys.

510
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Speaker 5: No doubt, Rest in peace. Man. We had some epic

511
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Speaker 5: coaches shows, me and Wolf and Coach Green and what

512
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Speaker 5: what was he made such a personality right and so

513
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Speaker 5: many wins on his resume. What was he like to

514
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Speaker 5: play for?

515
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Speaker 6: He was great to play for.

516
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Speaker 7: You know, he was no nonsense, but he'll always bring

517
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Speaker 7: a little jokes to the table and you're like, wait

518
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Speaker 7: a minute, was that a joke?

519
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Speaker 6: Can we laugh?

520
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 8: Like?

521
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Speaker 7: But you know so he he had his classic moment

522
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Speaker 7: on Monday Night Football.

523
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 6: You know that that was a riot. But he was.

524
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Speaker 7: He was great to play for, Man because he really

525
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Speaker 7: knew football and put us in position to do things.

526
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Speaker 1: Marcel, did you have a favorite teammate that you've played with?

527
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Speaker 1: When you when you look back at your career, was

528
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Speaker 1: there one guy that mentored you a little bit, a

529
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Speaker 1: guy that maybe took you under his wing and really

530
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Speaker 1: helped you make that transition from college to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Was there a guy that did that for you?

532
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Speaker 7: Yeah, like my rookie yar Michael Pittman did that with

533
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Speaker 7: Michael Pittman.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my rookie year. Michael Pittman did that.

535
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Speaker 7: You know, he was he was a great teammate man

536
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Speaker 7: like he he really got me through camp, you know,

537
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Speaker 7: kept keeping me focus and confident that I was going

538
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Speaker 7: to make the team. You know, when you're a free agent,

539
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 7: you see all your friends disappear. Yeah, you know, so

540
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Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm next. He's like, no, you're not. Stay focused,

541
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Speaker 7: and you know he really brought me under his way

542
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Speaker 7: my rookie year.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, oh yeah he was.

544
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Speaker 5: I thought my arms were big.

545
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Speaker 6: I remember looking at his arms.

546
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Speaker 5: Like serious, Jack, did he do like two a day

547
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 5: bicep curls? Like how did he arms that big? I mean,

548
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Speaker 5: what's going on?

549
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Speaker 2: There had to be three days?

550
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

551
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Speaker 2: Three? Did you go to his room?

552
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Speaker 6: He has curls in there?

553
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Speaker 5: So all right, you're not only played with Hall of

554
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Speaker 5: Famer Emitt Smith, but Edger and James, Hall of Famer

555
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Speaker 5: Kurt Warner. Yes, I mean soon it's gonna be Larry Fitzgerald.

556
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

557
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Speaker 5: How much do you cherish just playing with those kind

558
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Speaker 5: of guys?

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Speaker 7: I cherished this, you know, I tell my kids this

560
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Speaker 7: all the time. I said, I played with these guys

561
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Speaker 7: and they all had different mindsets, Like this state of mind.

562
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Speaker 6: Was just like Larry was a fifth six year guy,

563
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Speaker 6: his rookie.

564
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Speaker 7: Year, like he's been here before, you know, Emms Smith

565
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Speaker 7: throwing on the different level we was brought into.

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Speaker 6: Egwend James. Now, I learned so much just off the

567
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Speaker 6: field stuff from Egend James.

568
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Speaker 7: You know, I steal from all of these guys, you know,

569
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Speaker 7: just to make myself better, taking something from him and

570
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Speaker 7: him and just you know, just trying to make the

571
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Speaker 7: complete player. But those guys are just just I take

572
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Speaker 7: my hat off to them.

573
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Speaker 6: Because they are really special.

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Speaker 1: So for me, the the best player I ever played against,

575
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Speaker 1: the toughest player I ever played against, was Lawrence Taylor.

576
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Speaker 1: And Lawrence Taylor just just a train wreck on the

577
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Speaker 1: football field, emotionally, spiritually.

578
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Speaker 2: And physically, just a train wreck.

579
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Speaker 1: Waiting to happen. What about you? What there was a

580
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Speaker 1: who is the hardest defender you played against? The guy

581
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Speaker 1: that you just could not you could not shake.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it had to be Terrell Suggs. Terrell's Suggs when

583
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Speaker 7: we played Baltimore Ravens. I had the job of chipping

584
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Speaker 7: him wherever he's at. Oh so if he lies up

585
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Speaker 7: on the right, I go to the right, if he

586
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Speaker 7: lies up on the left, I go to the left.

587
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 7: I made sure the offense alignement is engaged first, and

588
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Speaker 7: then I'll come along and help out.

589
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Speaker 6: But he can mess the whole entire Sunday up.

590
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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't know with former Cardinals running back

591
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Speaker 5: David Johnson this past year, and I asked him the

592
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 5: hardest hit he ever took? And he immediately knew what

593
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Speaker 5: it was, the hardest hit he ever took, and it

594
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Speaker 5: was it was against Carolina. Luke Keikley was calling out

595
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Speaker 5: the place, called out the play and then Thomas Davis

596
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Speaker 5: did his seek and destroy and just drilled him ready

597
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Speaker 5: as he got the toss and stood over him said,

598
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Speaker 5: how's that taste, rookie. So that was a great story

599
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Speaker 5: from David Johnson. Do you remember an especially hard hit.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

601
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Speaker 7: My first year we played the Giants, and you know,

602
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Speaker 7: playing the hometown team, so I know I went back

603
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Speaker 7: home is watching it, and you know, I'm running on

604
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Speaker 7: the Giants some scoring touchdowns and Michael schrei Haan is

605
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Speaker 7: looking down.

606
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Speaker 6: At me, like what are you doing?

607
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Speaker 2: Little man?

608
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Speaker 7: And but the middle linebacker, I can I remember his

609
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Speaker 7: name right now with joined the blank. He hit me

610
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Speaker 7: so hard. I felt you You usually don't feel those hits,

611
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Speaker 7: but I felt it, and I was like, oh my god,

612
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Speaker 7: I'm alive. I started touching myself and did the next

613
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Speaker 7: day it film. It looked at bad, it looked in

614
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Speaker 7: the film. So but yeah, he definitely got me.

615
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Speaker 5: By the way, your numbers at U Mass because you

616
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Speaker 5: came out of New Jersey went to U Mass. Did

617
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Speaker 5: you really run for over twenty five hundred yards your

618
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Speaker 5: sophomore year and eighteen touchdowns?

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Speaker 2: Come on? Oh yeah?

620
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Speaker 5: Like and then the next year ran for eighteen hundred

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Speaker 5: yards and twenty four touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

623
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Speaker 5: See in today's day and age, you would have gone

624
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Speaker 5: like to like Alabama or something.

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Speaker 2: Right.

626
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Speaker 6: He was a transfer right exactly.

627
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean that's for in his career. Wolf

628
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Speaker 5: he had fifty four hundred yards rushing in college.

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Speaker 2: That is unbelievable. Man, I mean, what were you like

630
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Speaker 2: in high school?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'll playing both ways. You know, I didn't get

632
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Speaker 7: recruited as a running back. I got recruited as a safety.

633
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Speaker 8: Wow.

634
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Speaker 7: You know the funny thing is I went to prep school,

635
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Speaker 7: they recruited me as a safety again. And then when

636
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Speaker 7: I get to the Cardinals coach David McGinnis said, I

637
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 7: have more so early I would have made him a safety.

638
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Speaker 6: That might have been I might miss my calling.

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Speaker 8: Man.

640
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Speaker 5: Wow, all right, I'll tell you what. We're gonna come back.

641
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Speaker 5: We're gonna continue with the big red rage presented by

642
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: emergency there. Cody Simon, Cardinals rookie linebacker, is next. All

643
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Speaker 5: hanging out here flanker kitchen at sports Bar in the

644
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Speaker 5: Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 4: A quick path to the right, caught by Williams and

646
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Speaker 4: a good tackle, no gain, maybe even a loss of

647
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Speaker 4: the ball's fumbled and Davis Gather recovered and I'll take

648
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Speaker 4: away for the Arizona defense.

649
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: That is how you finish games.

650
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Speaker 4: Cody Simon with a force fumble, Davis Gather with the recovery.

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Speaker 15: As a young player, you have to get your confidence.

652
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Speaker 15: And the best way to get confidence is get some success.

653
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Speaker 15: And so for you to kind of get on the

654
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Speaker 15: field and make a football play that leads to a victory,

655
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 15: it gives you a lot of just confidence, like, oh, okay,

656
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Speaker 15: it's just football. You know, I could pull the ball out,

657
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Speaker 15: you know. When Cody made a big time play, you

658
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Speaker 15: a big moment, you know, and it's just like he's

659
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Speaker 15: just doing you did in practice, you know. But it

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Speaker 15: definitely use a lot of confidence when you start making

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Speaker 15: players realizing that, like the game hasn't changed, just the

662
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 15: same game.

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Speaker 5: So there are young players and then there are players

664
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Speaker 5: who were what age when Kaleis Campbell was a young player. Well,

665
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Speaker 5: if you're doing the math, we violate our rule no math.

666
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: We'll waive it in this instance for Cody Simon, Cody,

667
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: did you know you were celebrating your sixth birthday twenty

668
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Speaker 5: five days before the Cardinals selected Kaleias Campbell in Round

669
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Speaker 5: two of the two thousand and eight NFL Draft. It

670
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 5: just continues to be a mind blow, does it not.

671
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: Kaleis Campbell, It's incredible.

672
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Speaker 16: I Mean all I've known since I've been here is

673
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Speaker 16: him doing that, but I can't imagine doing it to

674
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Speaker 16: And he's thirty nine, Like he's man, it's crazy.

675
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Speaker 5: It was Michael Wilson last week here on The Big

676
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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Emergency. Here he said that Jacoby

677
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 5: Burussetts or has an unk vibe to him. Well, wait

678
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 5: a minute, he's thirty two, So what does that make kalaeis?

679
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Speaker 16: I mean he's unk plus I guess. I mean I

680
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 16: was just talking to him. He's talking about his son

681
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 16: and his nephew and they're almost around like around my

682
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 16: age or a little bit younger. But it's like, it's crazy.

683
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 16: I'm not even at that stage of my life yet.

684
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Speaker 16: And he was a longtime host here of the Big

685
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Speaker 16: Red Rage. All right, so we heard the play you

686
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 16: made Monday Night Football, the force fumble true or false.

687
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 16: When you're making plays as a rookie, how much does

688
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 16: it bolster your confidence? Yeah, I think it definitely does

689
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 16: give confidence. Like like Clay said, you know, the biggest

690
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 16: thing is not get too high or too low. I

691
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 16: think I'm trying to learn that as I go here.

692
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Speaker 16: And you can make a big play, but if you

693
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 16: get ahead of yourself and you don't get yourself back

694
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 16: to neutral. You can miss the next play, and that

695
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 16: could be the most important play. It's the next play.

696
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 16: It's always the most important, and you know, I just

697
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 16: try to stay level as possible.

698
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Speaker 5: I asked your defensive coordinator this week, Nick Rowlis, what

699
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Speaker 5: did you learn wearing the green dot your first NFL

700
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: started Seattle. He said, well, he probably learned, among other things,

701
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Speaker 5: that I'm talking to him a lot more. And he

702
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Speaker 5: sort of smiled. Then he realized, when I'm telling him

703
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Speaker 5: yell at the corner of this, tell the outside back

704
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Speaker 5: or that. What was the experience like.

705
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Speaker 16: You know, it's certainly a new feeling in the NFL.

706
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 16: I mean I was nervous going into it. Obviously the

707
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 16: game didn't go how we wanted it to, but you know,

708
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 16: it's always trying to settle in, you know, him him

709
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 16: talking to you. It's just just a way to get

710
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Speaker 16: get another extra you know, a little little advantage, and

711
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Speaker 16: you know, I just I just try to get my

712
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 16: job done and make sure everyone else in the same position,

713
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Speaker 16: and then you know, we all play together and play

714
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Speaker 16: as one.

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Speaker 5: That was sort of a singular game. We should have

716
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Speaker 5: known something was up when we got the first sunny

717
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: day in Seattle and twenty plus years okay, the football

718
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Speaker 5: gods and they had the two funnel returns and all

719
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, it's a big lead for Seattle. They

720
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Speaker 5: ran it forty six times and threw it twelve times.

721
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Speaker 5: That's a very unique game, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

723
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Speaker 5: It was.

724
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Speaker 16: It was definitely. It was one of those games where

725
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 16: you got to really challenge your focus and challenge your

726
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 16: your your mental wherewithal because you know, you know, when

727
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 16: things go bad, you have to be able to reset,

728
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Speaker 16: and you know, we didn't really do at the standard

729
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 16: we needed to, and you know, now it's a it's

730
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Speaker 16: a moment for resetting after a game like that. So

731
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Speaker 16: we need to get back to neutral, get back to

732
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Speaker 16: a position where we can go and play our best

733
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Speaker 16: game ahead of it.

734
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Speaker 5: And look, Mac Wilson Senior is out. So if there's

735
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Speaker 5: a couple of areas where you would like to elevate

736
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 5: against the forty nine ers, what can you take from

737
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Speaker 5: that Seattle game and maybe work on here against the

738
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Speaker 5: forty nine ers.

739
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean there's always things I need to clean up.

740
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Speaker 16: I mean, I'm just I'm trying to do my job.

741
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Speaker 16: But also I got to I got to be more aggressive.

742
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 16: I got to be more sertive as a as a leader.

743
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Speaker 16: You know, when a guy goes like that, goes down,

744
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 16: you lose a lot. He's he's a vocal leader. He's

745
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 16: also an emotional leader, and you know he's he's almost

746
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Speaker 16: like a big brother to me on this team too.

747
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Speaker 16: So you know, it's definitely an emotional loss, but you

748
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 16: know it's it's a point. It's a moment where you know,

749
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Speaker 16: people don't really care out outside of this building, you know,

750
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Speaker 16: and we got to have the next man up and

751
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 16: you know we care, but you know, the teams we play,

752
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 16: they don't care. They're gonna try to tackle us. So

753
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Speaker 16: now I just got to be able to fill in

754
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Speaker 16: those roles and you know, keep the standards high as

755
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 16: he as he held it, and you know, play my

756
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Speaker 16: best game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: If there's one team that doesn't care about injuries, it's

759
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Speaker 5: the forty nine ers because they've had more than their share.

760
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Speaker 5: Cody Simon is our guest Cardinals middle linebacker, fourth round

761
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Speaker 5: rookie out of Ohio State. The fact you were defensive

762
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Speaker 5: MVP of a rolls ball last year, defensive MVP of

763
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Speaker 5: the National Title Game, how much has that equipped you

764
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Speaker 5: maybe mentally emotionally for the NFL for a big challenge,

765
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Speaker 5: you know, to be in the spotlight and to call

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Speaker 5: a defense as a rookie.

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Speaker 16: You know, I think the best thing about Ohio State

768
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 16: was almost every game you play is a big game.

769
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Speaker 16: It's almost it's a nationally televised game. It's a you know,

770
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Speaker 16: everything's on the line every single game you play, so

771
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Speaker 16: you know you can you get the emotions ready. And

772
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Speaker 16: it's the same thing in the NFL, where every single

773
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Speaker 16: game you don't know what can happen. So you know,

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Speaker 16: my biggest thing was just trying to stay level in

775
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Speaker 16: the moments of chaos, and you know, treat every game

776
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Speaker 16: is it's this is this is it right here? And

777
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Speaker 16: you know if you treat every game like that, I mean,

778
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Speaker 16: I think that it allows you to be emotionally prepared

779
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Speaker 16: and really just get get the energy up and ready

780
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Speaker 16: to play your best game.

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Speaker 5: How crazy is it when you look around Paris Johnson junior,

782
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Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison junior, right, Baron Browning, Denzel Burke. I mean,

783
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Speaker 5: all the former guys you played with in college are

784
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Speaker 5: now in your NFL locker room. That's gonna be a

785
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Speaker 5: little wild.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it just speaks to the to the

787
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Speaker 16: kind of the kind of talent we bring in at

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Speaker 16: Ohio State. And I'm I mean, I might be mistaken,

789
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Speaker 16: but I'm sure there's gonna be a lot more in

790
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Speaker 16: the league in the next few years too, So I'm

791
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Speaker 16: excited for where they go.

792
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Speaker 5: All Right, So we hear so much about Kyle Shanahan's offense,

793
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Speaker 5: how much are you looking forward to? I mean the

794
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Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan is featured in the Wall Street Journal this week.

795
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Speaker 5: It's just you know, and you hear guys rave about

796
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Speaker 5: the scheme, including Jonathan again and Nick Rowlis had a

797
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 5: funny line this week, not so funny, where he said,

798
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Speaker 5: you know, every week I try and stay ahead. We

799
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Speaker 5: go against Kyle Shanahan, I'm automatically behind. What makes the

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Speaker 5: scheme a challenge?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean there's a reason that that offense has

802
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Speaker 16: been the way it's been for years now. And you know,

803
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 16: he finds a way to find mismatches and create create

804
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Speaker 16: problems for your eyes, and that's that's always gonna be

805
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Speaker 16: a challenge against these guys. I mean, they're they're a

806
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 16: great team and they play strong, so you know, it's

807
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Speaker 16: gonna be on us to be able to match that

808
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 16: intensity and be able to you know, fit everything correctly

809
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Speaker 16: and you know, play our game. Really, we got to

810
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Speaker 16: play the game in our terms.

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Speaker 5: When you're calling the defense, you know, whether it was

812
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: last year or this year, how much of it is

813
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Speaker 5: predicated on the quarterback of the defense, your position mike

814
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Speaker 5: backer versus the quarterback of the offense. I mean, how

815
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: much of it is back and forth? You know, they're

816
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: checking in something, you're checking out as something, and just

817
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 5: sort of responding to what the offense is doing.

818
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Speaker 16: Yeah, and a lot of that, A lot of that

819
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Speaker 16: plays into preparing for the game. You know, the week

820
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Speaker 16: leading up to it. You know, you might you might

821
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 16: like certain looks, they might like certain looks, and you

822
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 16: always got to keep the other side guessing. And I

823
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Speaker 16: think that's that's gonna be the challenge here because you know,

824
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Speaker 16: they have a lot of answers to a lot of

825
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Speaker 16: our stuff, and we have answers to their stuff too,

826
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Speaker 16: So you just got to get the team in the

827
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Speaker 16: right call and make sure we're all ready to go.

828
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Speaker 5: How curious are you to get on the field an

829
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Speaker 5: entire game against Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I was I was really young watching him

831
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Speaker 16: getting the league, so it's almost a dream come true.

832
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Speaker 16: But you know, again, no one really cares. So you

833
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 16: got to play my game and be ahead of everything,

834
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Speaker 16: and then you just have to get the defense all

835
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Speaker 16: on the same page.

836
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Speaker 5: So he leads the NFL with nearly two hundred and

837
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Speaker 5: fifty touches, and he leads the NFL in yards after catch,

838
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Speaker 5: and he's forced the second most mistackles behind Jonathan Taylor.

839
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Speaker 5: So what does that tell you, not only yourself, but

840
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: a defense when it comes to tackling and trying to

841
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 5: square up a guy like that.

842
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, he's an elite player and we all

843
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 16: know that. The whole NFL and does that. So really

844
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 16: what it comes down to is playing our technique correctly

845
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 16: and you know, playing good team defense, and one has

846
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 16: to rally to the ball. Everyone has to rally to

847
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 16: him because we know he's gonna get his touches, and

848
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Speaker 16: you know, we got to be on our on our stuff,

849
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Speaker 16: and it really just comes back to us. So we

850
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 16: got to play our techniques and we got to do

851
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 16: our our scheme.

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Speaker 5: Mark, you saw a couple of guys of practice. Really

853
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 5: good to see Darius Robinson Walter Nolan right after they

854
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 5: left with injury. How good can a defensive lineman make

855
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: an inside linebacker look on the field? How vital is

856
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: that to have that defensive front for the position you play.

857
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Speaker 16: I mean, it's it's almost everything. You know, when you

858
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 16: can trust those those guys up front like we do,

859
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 16: you know, he can play more free, you can play

860
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 16: more aggressively, and you can really you know, have a

861
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 16: much cleaner game at backer.

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Speaker 5: It helps you out a lot.

863
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Speaker 16: So you know, I'm happy to have those guys back,

864
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 16: and they're and they're they're healthy, and you know, we're

865
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Speaker 16: just going out here and trying to play our best game.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Budda Baker was asked about you and just you know,

868
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Speaker 5: calling he was the defense, and he was very complimentary.

869
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Speaker 5: What have you learned from watching Buddha Baker because a

870
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Speaker 5: lot of times he's in the box near you. What

871
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 5: have you taken away from the perennial all pro.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I think his his instincts and his preparation

873
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 16: is unlike anyone I've ever seen. He's he's so instinctively

874
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 16: instinctive and he prepares so well that he can come

875
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 16: in the box, play, up top play, anywhere he knows

876
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 16: exactly where to be. So my challenge is always to

877
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Speaker 16: be as as as keyed in and as locked in

878
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Speaker 16: as he is, because he's he's always head of the game,

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Speaker 16: and you know, I just I just try to mirror that.

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00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 16: And you know, he's always trying to push me to

881
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 16: be a better and be more vocal, be more assertive.

882
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 16: So you know, whenever I can try to be like him,

883
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 16: you know, it's it's a great kind of feeling and

884
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 16: trying to always trying to emulate his his preparedness and

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Speaker 16: his readiness.

886
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 5: Is football, I Q a real thing like those instincts,

887
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 5: and you know what he's been able to garner over

888
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 5: a decade almost.

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Speaker 16: One hundred percent, especially when you know in his position,

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Speaker 16: he's he's a little bit undersized a little bit, you know,

891
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 16: probably not a little overlooked a little bit, and he's

892
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Speaker 16: all pro and he's he's been doing it for years now,

893
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Speaker 16: so you know there's there's a reason he's still around

894
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Speaker 16: here doing it. And you know he's he's able to

895
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Speaker 16: to find plays, find the little inches and in each

896
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Speaker 16: and every play and be able to make plays.

897
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Speaker 5: As we wrap it up with Cody Simon here from

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Speaker 5: Jersey City, Right, don't we know them for like the

899
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 5: hurlies in basketball?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

902
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: Okay?

903
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: So coming out coming out playing football? Was that a

904
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Speaker 5: little different, right? Because usually Jersey City gets acclaim for

905
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: like high school hoops. Right, Well, it is big, But

906
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Speaker 5: when I got to high school St.

907
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Speaker 16: Anthony's closed down, So yeah, it wasn't really okay, gotcha?

908
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Speaker 2: I got you?

909
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Speaker 5: All right. Well, I'm just trying to hang on these

910
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: two interviews last two weeks. You got Michael Wilson went

911
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: to Stanford, and then you got Cody Simon, who was

912
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Speaker 5: like four time All Academic Big ten, and you're working

913
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 5: on your masters as well. Well, I don't know about

914
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Speaker 5: some point, right.

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00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 16: It's funny. I'm still the second smartest sibling. My brother

916
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 16: went a Notre Dame, so he's he's got that above

917
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 16: me too, So gotcha.

918
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Speaker 2: All right?

919
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Speaker 5: Hey, we look forward to Sunday against the forty nine ers.

920
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Speaker 5: If nothing else, you learned to hate the Seahawks last Sunday.

921
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Speaker 5: We enjoyed it. Thank you, Cody, appreciate it. Thank you

922
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Speaker 5: so much. There you go. We continue with a big

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Speaker 5: red rage presented by Emergency Era. Right after this huge

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Speaker 5: play by Pat Tillman.

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Speaker 11: Whatever you're gonna do, you should be passionate. Matter of

926
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Speaker 11: wh Why do it?

927
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Speaker 5: Mccam by Pat Tilbant, Damn Tilman delivers them blow. Pat

928
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Speaker 5: Tilban was there first, rushed back there? Why Pat Tilman?

929
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Speaker 5: Pat Tillman the play?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I get a lot of satisfaction out of, like, you know,

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Speaker 11: my family being proud of me, my brothers, you know

933
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Speaker 11: I I I care what they think and how they feel,

934
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Speaker 11: and I want them to be proud of what I'm doing.

935
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Speaker 4: Pat Tillman talk about a guy with a lot of heart.

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Speaker 5: That's what Tilman is all about. Huge play by Pat

937
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Speaker 5: Tilman for whatever reason.

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Speaker 11: I you know, I have a patriotic bone to me.

939
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Speaker 14: No USA all three?

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Speaker 2: Why dog buy.

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Speaker 5: Beautiful thought? Really well, said Pat the former Cardinal American Hero.

942
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Speaker 5: A pleasure to cover Pat at Asu and with the

943
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Speaker 5: Cardinals Marcel Ship. You actually played with Pat Tillman. What

944
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Speaker 5: was like to share a locker room with the man?

945
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Speaker 6: You know it was? It was great? You know, like

946
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Speaker 6: you hit it on the head American Hero.

947
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Speaker 7: I remember one time my rookie year, I didn't dress

948
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Speaker 7: one game and I was balling out on special teams

949
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Speaker 7: and he just went completely off on the coaches. I'm like,

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Speaker 7: Pat stopped, don't get in trouble because of me. But

951
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Speaker 7: you know, that's the type of guy he is. He's

952
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Speaker 7: the stand up guy. He stands up for what he

953
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Speaker 7: believes in. And when he left our team to go

954
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Speaker 7: join the Service, and you know, it wasn't it wasn't

955
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Speaker 7: a big shot to a lot of us because that's

956
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Speaker 7: just who he is.

957
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Speaker 5: He did. He had a higher purpose about him in

958
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: a lot of ways. You know, his conviction was unlike

959
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Speaker 5: so many people.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's amazing about Pat, at least to me.

961
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Speaker 1: And I know you know this Pauli as well, and

962
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: there's so many other people that were around Pat Tillman.

963
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Speaker 1: But he challenged himself constantly. He was always challenging himself

964
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Speaker 1: to do better and do things that were more difficult.

965
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: Remember when we were at that bowling I forget was

966
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Speaker 1: it Jake Plumber's bowling?

967
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pulling whatever it was. He a tournament.

968
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Speaker 1: He would bring all these guys in and all of

969
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, here comes Pat and he's pushing this bike

970
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Speaker 1: out the door.

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Speaker 2: Literally pushing. That was like, what are you doing? He said?

972
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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm training for a triathlon and

973
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you a triathlon?

974
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Speaker 2: You know? And that is who he was.

975
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: He constantly would challenge himself and push himself.

976
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Speaker 5: I would say he got more out of his life

977
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Speaker 5: than most people did who would live three times as long.

978
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: I mean, that's just the way he was. And of

979
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: course this past week Veterans Day, as we honor all

980
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Speaker 5: those who have served and are currently serving, including our

981
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: own Walt Ellis.

982
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah about it, Walter thirteen Purple Heart recipient.

983
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Speaker 5: So all the best done that. And you know what,

984
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: as long as we're shouting people out, how about Kenny

985
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 5: Salinas over here? He was on a Cardinals Fan of

986
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: the Year twenty twenty five. We see him at the

987
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 5: Big Red Rage. I see you on the road as well, Kenny.

988
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: I know, I don't know who your ticket broker is.

989
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 5: You get some money, seats on the road, you're always

990
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 5: near the front. It's it's great stuff. And congratulations on

991
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 5: being named. Here's what a Cardinals Fan of the Year.

992
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 5: All right, so we know you'll be out there on Sunday.

993
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 5: Right behind us is State Farm Stadium. Here at Flanker

994
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 5: Kitchen at Sports Bar and the Great Lawn and here

995
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: come the forty nine ers. So look, everyone talks about

996
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: this Kyle Shanahan offense. I want you guys to talk

997
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: about a little bit, especially Christian McCaffrey. But here's Nick Ross,

998
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 5: Cardinals defensive coordinator, on facing the forty nine ers and

999
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 5: their scheme.

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Speaker 13: It's one of the best run games over the past

1001
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 13: decade in my opinion, but they're also really good in

1002
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 13: the past game. So I think you got to be

1003
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Speaker 13: to stop both against these guys. And the thing that

1004
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 13: Kyle does really well is he's not a guy that

1005
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 13: feels like he always has to lean on one or

1006
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Speaker 13: the other. He's going to try to hit you with both,

1007
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 13: and if you know one of them's working, he's not

1008
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Speaker 13: afraid to continue to go to it.

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Speaker 5: There's literally a story today in the Wall Street Journal

1010
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 5: on Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, it's unbelievable. So what is it?

1011
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: What is it that players and coaches rave about wolf

1012
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: in his scheme?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: For me, it's rundown situation first in ten second and

1015
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 1: one to six and how similar the running plays look

1016
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: to play action. He uses a lot of different personnel groups.

1017
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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers Paul, he think about this and

1018
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: rundown situation first and ten second and one to six.

1019
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: They use two back over fifty percent of the time,

1020
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: two back over fifty percent of the time in a

1021
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: day and age where it's all one back.

1022
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: I've not done for them.

1023
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: It's not done.

1024
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: And yet they're running plays, attacking the line of scrimmage

1025
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Speaker 1: in a very north south kind of way, looks exactly

1026
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: like their play action. It has always been that way

1027
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Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan, the Shanahan family, as a matter of fact. Sure,

1028
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: this is something they believe in play action and the

1029
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Speaker 1: power of play action coming off of the running game.

1030
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Speaker 1: And nobody does it better. Well, I shouldn't say that.

1031
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: Maybe Mike Lafleur in the Green Bay Packers, coming from

1032
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: the same tree, they do it just as well.

1033
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Speaker 5: Would you have loved to have played in that Kyle

1034
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 5: Shanahan's scheme as a running back.

1035
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Speaker 7: You know what, when he was in Houston, I had

1036
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Speaker 7: a simple coffee there and I was an old man

1037
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Speaker 7: and playing a running back, but I was like, Wow,

1038
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Speaker 7: this office is amazing. It's downhill running and is the

1039
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Speaker 7: wonder Now he has McCaffrey and he's a nightmare so

1040
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 7: it fits right in and they're still dominant.

1041
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Speaker 5: And it looks like he has brock Perty and Ricky

1042
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Speaker 5: pur piersoll to Arizona Natives who are going to be

1043
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Speaker 5: playing on Sunday. So a lot of storylines, Man Marcel,

1044
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: we really enjoyed a marshall. So everyone, how about it,

1045
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Speaker 5: appreciate it. Special thanks as always, Jim ol Monter, Cody Fincher,

1046
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Speaker 5: Ryan Sikora Special thanks Cody Simon, Cardinals linebacker. Join us

1047
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Speaker 5: as well for Ron Wolfe on Paul KELVC. This has

1048
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Speaker 5: been the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air from

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Speaker 5: Flanker Kitchen at Sports Bar on the Great Lawn.

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