Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh, I see you? Why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Let and
Speaker 1: there cannot stop watching the Stars Born trailer. We we're
Speaker 1: talking about us. Yes, we've first thing that did this
Speaker 1: morning was pulled up. I woke up out of my
Speaker 1: sleep and I look over and I was cross the
Speaker 1: room and Matt's watching. Okay, there's so much to say
Speaker 1: about it. And the thing is, like I it's my
Speaker 1: most anticipated movie of my life and this is now
Speaker 1: replacing Dreamgirls two thousand seven as the movie that I'm
Speaker 1: most excited about in my life and it's it's been
Speaker 1: now over a decade because it has to be a
Speaker 1: musical with a pop star. And now that they're giving
Speaker 1: me that, I feel very excited. And this trailer looks beautiful.
Speaker 1: And guess what, here's a little piece of culture. It's
Speaker 1: the same DP as did Black Swan, the same DP,
Speaker 1: the same DP as did Black Swan. Um that did
Speaker 1: black No? I know, but is that? How did you
Speaker 1: find this out reading a lot of articles? Okay, so
Speaker 1: you've you've you've You've done. I've been reading a lot.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Um, we should say we're in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: were this is our is. We're back. We're back in
Speaker 1: l A for a little bit. We're we have some
Speaker 1: great episodes lined up. We're far from the Shallow. We're
Speaker 1: far from the shallow now, as they say in the
Speaker 1: Stars Born trailer um and We're far from the shell now.
Speaker 1: That was like a beautiful mix of Bradley Cooper and
Speaker 1: Letty Gaga's voices that we just did tambers mix. We
Speaker 1: gave Bradley Cooper tone yes and Lady Gaga operatic vibrato energy. Yes.
Speaker 1: Our guest today is also a singer, also the vocalist vocalist. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: the credits, they come rolling, they come rolling down, as
Speaker 1: we say. First of all, she has a show with
Speaker 1: the Skips on June. Please check that out. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: she just finished up a concert at four Below when
Speaker 1: she was in New York. But she's performing with the
Speaker 1: Skippy's step up those texts. Also, she's just I'm just
Speaker 1: like a pre eminent mind. I would say, I gotta
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the eminent mind science for her when
Speaker 1: it came out like I was, but I was, I
Speaker 1: just like withdrew my application from med school and I
Speaker 1: was like, what the funk? Am I doing? Um? But
Speaker 1: then like I read Science for her and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the funniest thing. I still think it's one
Speaker 1: of them. We were just screaming in the car and
Speaker 1: also I was happy because listen, this is not and
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Was an observation the Uber drivers
Speaker 1: in l a very chatty, very chatting. All I wanted
Speaker 1: to do was share excerpts of Science for her with
Speaker 1: Hi Matt, and we we we cut the driver out
Speaker 1: of a conversation very quick because I was like, no,
Speaker 1: we're like, this is our moment, so anyway, um, and
Speaker 1: then we laughed out loud and said select lines from
Speaker 1: the passage. But you can't possibly have understood, of course. Um.
Speaker 1: She's a writer producer on so many shows, The Good Place,
Speaker 1: The Simpsons, Silicon Valley, Croll Show, previously, Parks and Rack.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there's there are those, but we're
Speaker 1: we're going to talk today about her one of her
Speaker 1: biggest credit today, ladies and gentlemen, for your consideration the actress, writer, producer,
Speaker 1: director of director, and Emmy for Megan and em Nominated
Speaker 1: for your consideration for Outstanding Actress in a Short Form
Speaker 1: Comedy or drama series and Outstanding Comedy or short from
Speaker 1: comedy dramas. So much to talk about, so much to
Speaker 1: talk about. It's our honor to have Megan so happy
Speaker 1: to be here. I was just clenching my fists waiting
Speaker 1: to get in on those Stars Born trailer. Okay, gift thoughts.
Speaker 1: I well, first of all, I've never heard a country
Speaker 1: singer with Lady Gaga's placement vocal. She is just it's
Speaker 1: so rich. That vibrato is just huge. Drive a truck
Speaker 1: through it. We're gonna get theater country. And I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that it's in a world. It's like a
Speaker 1: science fiction movie, in a world where country a musical
Speaker 1: theater has meshed. It's like a dystopian feature. And I
Speaker 1: see it throws me off a little bit that they
Speaker 1: chose country music as the scene. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: love that it's country music. It throws me off that
Speaker 1: Gaga chose to keep the Gaga she's not doing country,
Speaker 1: and absolutely love it. I also love that she in
Speaker 1: the trailer says, uh, you know, people love my music,
Speaker 1: but they don't love the way I look. And she's
Speaker 1: like beautiful and then this is my I was watching
Speaker 1: it with my friends, and my theory is you never
Speaker 1: see her legs in the trailer. It was like, what
Speaker 1: if a twist in the movies that she's actually only
Speaker 1: a torso and that's what she's saying. It's like, my
Speaker 1: face is very beautiful and I'm not saying that paraplegics. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying she's literally which is very beautiful. It's a
Speaker 1: type of person. But I think that might be the struggle.
Speaker 1: But they're burying the lead there but not showing that
Speaker 1: she's Wow. That would be an amazing twist, and that
Speaker 1: would be even more they're saying Oscar bait and Awards
Speaker 1: bade big time, yes, and I love it. Lady Gaga
Speaker 1: just on her arms the whole time. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. There are so many because I've done the
Speaker 1: thing now where I've watched so many times where I've
Speaker 1: you know, hell and every The best part of the
Speaker 1: trailer is like the super cut towards the end where
Speaker 1: she's screaming her song and then literally there's like many
Speaker 1: cuts of different things of her acting so hard, acting
Speaker 1: over here, acting over there, filling up the frame and
Speaker 1: there's a scene that I paused she's in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: She's a scene where she's run out of a bathroom.
Speaker 1: Still she's in like a business suit with her hair
Speaker 1: up and like a tasteful situation. And she's bent over screaming.
Speaker 1: And I paused it and I was like, what is that?
Speaker 1: We do? See the legs and nutshot see oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I
Speaker 1: really didn't watch carefully. I was focused on her face
Speaker 1: and her vibra. She could still be apparently joking. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why, because oftentimes Hollywood they can be very smart,
Speaker 1: and what they'll do is say, film extra scenes just
Speaker 1: for the trailer to throw off you. Guys have been
Speaker 1: in l A for two days and you already get
Speaker 1: how Hollywood and they're so impressed to speaking of Hollywood. Um,
Speaker 1: let's let's just start off the conversation. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: that by talking about an Emmy for maccan. The buzz
Speaker 1: has been definitely a dinner of buzz. A deafening den.
Speaker 1: It's hard to concentrate, there's so much buzz. There's so much.
Speaker 1: It's like a white noise that just distracts everyone. And
Speaker 1: white noise puts you to sleep, absolutely, But no, none
Speaker 1: of us are sleeping. No, it's like loud loud. Do
Speaker 1: you find that maybe like the buzz? Well, this is
Speaker 1: actually a really interesting conversation to have because you know,
Speaker 1: the subject matter is trying to win an Emmy. But
Speaker 1: now we get to that interesting thing of when the
Speaker 1: buzz sometimes takes away from the work, but this it
Speaker 1: kind of feeds itself and that's genius. I thank you.
Speaker 1: I say this in the web series, but I really
Speaker 1: did make this to win the award. I was watching
Speaker 1: the Emmi's last year. There's a bunch of new awards
Speaker 1: for web series content, which is amazing beautiful. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I look, I'm not Lady Gaga yet.
Speaker 1: I can't carry a full, very very strenuously acted movie yet,
Speaker 1: but I can. Yeah, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: pulled muscles on. That's but I feel like my skills
Speaker 1: are good for like six minutes at a time. Like
Speaker 1: I'm really charismatic for like six minutes. So this podcast
Speaker 1: is gonna be great for like the first chunk and
Speaker 1: then just horrible. But so I I think of myself
Speaker 1: as a web SERIESO tour um. But yeah, the Emmy
Speaker 1: voting opens Monday, June eleven. Okay, so this will come
Speaker 1: out the next day. This is coming out on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So this is actually this episode is going to be
Speaker 1: called for Your Consideration? So perfect. Yeah. So I spent
Speaker 1: one day filming the series, and I've spent weeks now
Speaker 1: publicizing it. I bought a billboard in Hollywood. It's really
Speaker 1: so sick. It's at Hollywood Boulevard and Wilton Place. If
Speaker 1: here's the thing for anyone listening out there, it's really
Speaker 1: easy to buy a billboard that says anything. It is
Speaker 1: prohibitively expansive. Spent more money on the billboard than I
Speaker 1: did on the series. But that's the way it works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way Hollywood works. And you have to get
Speaker 1: out there and promote yourself. Like remember when Melissa Leo
Speaker 1: brought her own for Your Consideration and she won the
Speaker 1: Academy Award. Now I have to ask, are is there
Speaker 1: something that we as the viewer do not know that
Speaker 1: it is more esoteric in the Emmy sort of in
Speaker 1: the requirements, is it really just it has to have
Speaker 1: six episodes, it has to be it has to be
Speaker 1: on YouTube, it has to be uploaded before April whatever
Speaker 1: it was, and then I'm sorry, and then you will
Speaker 1: have an infamy um as FDR said, and what was
Speaker 1: the third requirement? These are truly the only requirements. Okay,
Speaker 1: six episodes. There's no minimum length, uh, and they have
Speaker 1: to be under fifteen minutes each, which you know, no problem, sir.
Speaker 1: And they have to be uploaded the right time. They
Speaker 1: also have to have scripts, which is why I heavily
Speaker 1: scripted my series. If anyone I ideally wanted to send
Speaker 1: out the scripts of my series to the entire Emmy
Speaker 1: voting block, it's more expensive than you'd think to send
Speaker 1: out to send out the steps I'm willing to. I
Speaker 1: just wish there was an email list you could just spam.
Speaker 1: You would think that it's as easy as this, but
Speaker 1: it's not. No, it's not. And I think that if
Speaker 1: I win an Emmy, I'll have the cloud to make
Speaker 1: some major changes in the academy, right right right, because
Speaker 1: when there needs there needs to be changed. Now, I
Speaker 1: need to ask you, what do you visualize as the
Speaker 1: roadblocks ahead of you? Yeah? Who is competing with you?
Speaker 1: And bring down my spirit? I'm sorry, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think it's good to be realistic. I think it's
Speaker 1: harder to get nominated. I think once you get nominated,
Speaker 1: this is this is exactly what I'm thinking. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I don't know who else is competing
Speaker 1: in this category. And come Monday, and if you guys
Speaker 1: are listening to this on Tuesday, rice to your computers,
Speaker 1: get in the academy. I am so curious to see
Speaker 1: if other people had the same idea as me, like
Speaker 1: that they'd be a good web series based actor or actress.
Speaker 1: But I think there's going to be a lot of
Speaker 1: celebrities competing in this category. Uh, and you know, my
Speaker 1: name might not have the recognition that's say a Natalie
Speaker 1: Pork love her beautiful woman beautiful. So I might not be,
Speaker 1: you know, a Penelope Crew. But I think I have
Speaker 1: a lot of spirit um. But should I get nominated,
Speaker 1: I have set aside a slush fund to really really
Speaker 1: hit the publicity home. And I'm thinking I never delved
Speaker 1: into the New York market. But which is so rude
Speaker 1: of me? Yeah, it's really I was walking through Time
Speaker 1: Square recently and I'm like, how do I get one
Speaker 1: of those big electronic billboards Times Square? I could see it,
Speaker 1: just me waving at the tourists from far and wide. Um,
Speaker 1: so I'll be looking into that. Please. Now it will
Speaker 1: be historic if you are not only nominated, but if
Speaker 1: you do win. For you to win as a beautiful
Speaker 1: creative American, we can confirm, um, that we are talking
Speaker 1: to a beautiful Korean American woman. And that's because that's
Speaker 1: how you've chosen to identify for purposes of your life
Speaker 1: going forward, or just you know recent Yeah, so just
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the series, which seems insane, but
Speaker 1: I did a twenty three and me recently and I
Speaker 1: found out I'm about Askenazi Jewish, but I found out
Speaker 1: I was point one percent Korean, not negligible. They included it,
Speaker 1: included and it's so easy to not include it, but
Speaker 1: they did so many things made sense. Um. And you know,
Speaker 1: I looked at myself in the mirror before that and
Speaker 1: I always was like, what is that? Then? What is
Speaker 1: that about me? Yeah? What, there's a beautiful Korean thing
Speaker 1: about fun? There's something fun in the mirror. It's something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little paprika thrown in there. And I got my
Speaker 1: genetic results back and it all fell into place. Now
Speaker 1: here's something I am a part of the Emmy Voting
Speaker 1: Academy and I got an email recently that they were
Speaker 1: doing a panel with Asian American women who were in
Speaker 1: the Academy, and I realized I hadn't asked me, And
Speaker 1: it was a really horrible way to find out that
Speaker 1: I wasn't on the panels by getting an invitation. It
Speaker 1: almost felt like they were rubbing it in that they
Speaker 1: were like, we're inviting you, but you're not on the panel.
Speaker 1: It's so emblematic I think of the industry and all
Speaker 1: the quote unquote steps forward that we're taking, where it's
Speaker 1: like it's still so exclusive, even even though like there's
Speaker 1: so much and they're leaving out so many people. Really
Speaker 1: that's really what it is. How dare they? But I
Speaker 1: almost showed up and just like went on the panel.
Speaker 1: But I thought, you know what, let them have their time.
Speaker 1: Well you know that, but it's not them, it's you
Speaker 1: are them. You're right, I need to change the way
Speaker 1: I think about yea. And also, here's the thing, there's
Speaker 1: no such thing that's bad pity. And I think that
Speaker 1: if you had gone and made an issue of it,
Speaker 1: I think you might be able to Well. I have
Speaker 1: some I have some big things coming up. I really
Speaker 1: want to. In my web series, I also sing the
Speaker 1: national anthem, which I mean is one of everyone's favorite songs.
Speaker 1: Just like it's just like in every time different every
Speaker 1: time you have no idea what's going to come out
Speaker 1: of your mouth. I really for years I've wanted to
Speaker 1: sing the national anthem at a w NBA game because
Speaker 1: very seriously, I think it's super fucked up how much
Speaker 1: people make fun of the w n B. I'm not
Speaker 1: a sports fan, but I just in theory love the
Speaker 1: w n B. A is a punchline and why no,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, They're amazing. But I really want to sing
Speaker 1: the national anthem at a w n B A game. Um,
Speaker 1: but we can probably make that happen. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like last cool Threstas has a big let's let's just
Speaker 1: say that, Like we'll just say out loud that you
Speaker 1: know that's something. Put it in the atmosphere right as
Speaker 1: they say, I just also have to shout out. Quick
Speaker 1: note is that I went to New York last weekend
Speaker 1: saw what I'd estimate to be every gay person in
Speaker 1: New York and hang out. They are all huge fans
Speaker 1: of this podcast. That's crazy, but they don't. They don't.
Speaker 1: They certainly don't approach. They don't approach us. They don't
Speaker 1: approach it. I'm going to tell him not to be shy,
Speaker 1: skittish little Mayre's anymore. Do you know what happened? Stop
Speaker 1: being a sly shy. Sometimes I will receive Instagram direct
Speaker 1: message and they will say bitch, and they just call
Speaker 1: me bitch. What are you listening to as you stomp
Speaker 1: through Times Square? Because I will be listening to music
Speaker 1: and I feel music and something about me that is
Speaker 1: very different and unique. Um is that I feel music
Speaker 1: all throughout my body especially, But it's a very good song.
Speaker 1: You can really tell, like, I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: I don't know if it means that I'm a dancer.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should go on Dancing with the Stars. I
Speaker 1: feel like you should be in a Stars born. I
Speaker 1: feel like that. Well, here's the I would love to do.
Speaker 1: Actually attack We played black Swan. We did black Swan
Speaker 1: on stage as a musical with the music of Chicago. Yes. Oh,
Speaker 1: and who do you think was Natalie? Who was Mila? Um?
Speaker 1: I think Bowen was Natalie. I have more Mila energy, obviously,
Speaker 1: because Mila. You know, music in her body and like, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's very free and loose. Hair down, I
Speaker 1: do on my ballets of my hair down, yes, gets
Speaker 1: right in your face. Yeah, and um oh. So then
Speaker 1: I have to respond to these people, who what are
Speaker 1: you doing? And I'm like, where are you? And I
Speaker 1: don't and then I don't get an answer to that.
Speaker 1: So now there's just these games watching me as I
Speaker 1: walk on the street. Do you watch Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: I'm very scared of Game of Thrones because of the violence.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of violence, but there's like a sparrow
Speaker 1: system where it's basically like a unit character who has
Speaker 1: all these people watching other people. And I imagine that
Speaker 1: there's some sort of sparrow system in Times Square, gay
Speaker 1: people waiting for you to jazz down the streets. So
Speaker 1: stop are you? Are you like really hitting the steps heavy? Well?
Speaker 1: I just like to hear. What I do is because
Speaker 1: I'm a very big fan of RuPaul's drag race. I
Speaker 1: lip I like to lip sync, but I don't want
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it outwardly, like I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like a crazy person like lip syncing
Speaker 1: the words on the street. But I will like in
Speaker 1: my brain picture myself performing of song, and so sometimes
Speaker 1: that just you know, gets away from me and I'll,
Speaker 1: you know, be emotionally. That's I guess really what it is.
Speaker 1: It's I'm emotionally embodying it. Physically, I have a very
Speaker 1: heavy step. I've been told before that I need to
Speaker 1: sit down softer. I didn't break. I didn't break a chair.
Speaker 1: This was I have a history of older women telling
Speaker 1: me how to live my life, and I just am
Speaker 1: very sweet and take it very sincerely. But I was
Speaker 1: at like a movie screening outside and they're all these
Speaker 1: like deck chairs and I sat, I sit down with
Speaker 1: my full force of my body. I let gravity really
Speaker 1: do most of the work. And the chair like folded
Speaker 1: up underneath me, and a woman behind me was like,
Speaker 1: maybe if you didn't sit like that when it happened,
Speaker 1: what at what age do you become this expert in
Speaker 1: chair rizzled white woman who tells you how to sit,
Speaker 1: who has no concept of boundaries and tells a stranger
Speaker 1: how to place their gravity. I don't like her at all.
Speaker 1: Just because I'm Korean, you can't they she saw you
Speaker 1: and she said, I'm gonna walk. Let me walk all
Speaker 1: over this Korean Korean. Sorry, beautiful Korean, beautiful Korean. We're
Speaker 1: quoting U. I bent a stool leg um in San
Speaker 1: Francisco out of bar in Chinatown, and I have never
Speaker 1: been more humiliated in my own in a place where
Speaker 1: I meant to feel safe. It was like steel stool.
Speaker 1: Everyone okay, the people I were, The people I was with,
Speaker 1: maintained that it was already like warped in. It was
Speaker 1: already that way, but it had for some reason, it
Speaker 1: had been propped up to look like it was just
Speaker 1: structurally sound. But as soon they placed my weight on it,
Speaker 1: I like, I ate ship and like I just like
Speaker 1: my feels like they're fault. It feels like the restaurants
Speaker 1: will have you sued them. Well. I was with Blair
Speaker 1: and Blair's Blare's a great lawyer now in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and she was like, we could, we could literally sue.
Speaker 1: And I was like, it's fine, Why are you so?
Speaker 1: Why are you attacking it like that? Like why why
Speaker 1: are you being nice? Why not? It was it was
Speaker 1: like it was like a mom and pop Chinese bar,
Speaker 1: And like I did not want to make weights something
Speaker 1: that's a trap that they put there to make people
Speaker 1: think they should lose weight. Oh my god, maybe it's
Speaker 1: like an elaborate system. Everyone falls down on the stool.
Speaker 1: That is so Chines, very California of them. So it
Speaker 1: would it would be. I almost sued an escape room
Speaker 1: thing I've ever said. Okay, okay, that's not part of it.
Speaker 1: I love escape rooms, like so stupid people should on
Speaker 1: escape rooms all the time. Now they're like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: white people paying for struggle, and I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: love not paying for struggles. Paying for like a puzzle,
Speaker 1: you immerse yourself in, get over yourself criticism. Escape's very wholesome,
Speaker 1: and I love puzzles of all types. But I was
Speaker 1: in an escape room in Orlando, Florida with my brother
Speaker 1: and his wife and they were showing us at the
Speaker 1: end what we did wrong. Sorry, look, I'm flawed, just
Speaker 1: like any other beautiful Korean woman. And a treasure chest
Speaker 1: that this man had propped up bell on my finger
Speaker 1: and my fingure started gushing blood. Oh my god. You can, like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show not the podcast listeners, but you can
Speaker 1: kind of see the scar on my finger. People king Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also I was just like, escape rooms are
Speaker 1: dirty because they're set up in like warehouses and a
Speaker 1: million people are touching them all the time. But the
Speaker 1: room I was doing was like horror themes, So I
Speaker 1: hope there's like my dried blood somewhere in the room. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was fine. My brother is a doctor and he
Speaker 1: wanted to give me stitches, but he's not a hand doctor.
Speaker 1: And also he was my childhood bully, so I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you don don't trust me. It was really layered. But
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, So what is your
Speaker 1: role in the escape room? Because I feel that when
Speaker 1: you go into such a good idea, I feel like
Speaker 1: I do when you going there together, like my thing
Speaker 1: that I do because I'm not necessarily like the smartest sleuth,
Speaker 1: but I am really the best clips anchor. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: per forming on the corner. No, but on our most
Speaker 1: recent trip to an escape room, they came over the
Speaker 1: loudspeaker and they said, you can also um to help
Speaker 1: look for like hidden um Eastern Easter. Yes, we were,
Speaker 1: we were here. We were here doing Easter and then
Speaker 1: like part of the theme was they had little Easter eggs,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, good, I'll look for the
Speaker 1: things hidden around the room. I'm not going to find
Speaker 1: out the puzzle. I also just like I want to
Speaker 1: set the scene of like me doing an escape room
Speaker 1: with like six huge gay guys and it was for
Speaker 1: and Teller themed and there were so many scarves in it,
Speaker 1: and I feel like half of us just spent the
Speaker 1: time admiring putting scarves on. No, I am like very
Speaker 1: much like a home I love homework like I love
Speaker 1: like math and figuring out more cerebral puzzles. I don't
Speaker 1: have a great spatial reasoning. I never know which side
Speaker 1: of my body is like right or left, So I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be the one who's like doing a gadget.
Speaker 1: I have a question because you are you are like
Speaker 1: low key hi KEI like a gamer. I would say
Speaker 1: the reason I love escape rooms is because I equate
Speaker 1: them to like a real life like Zelda done. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, the first time I did an escape this
Speaker 1: is like not funny because I'm getting too sincere about this.
Speaker 1: The first time I did one was basically Zelda themed.
Speaker 1: It was the most you for experience of my life.
Speaker 1: I was like, leave this disgusting world behind and put
Speaker 1: me in like Zelda room for an hour. Yes, Like
Speaker 1: that is like that is all I want. I really
Speaker 1: want to create Escape. I'm like too lazy to do it,
Speaker 1: but I have a bunch of ideas for themes. Theme
Speaker 1: one is like general Hollywood meeting, which justice at the
Speaker 1: scene you've ever been on. It's like you get to it.
Speaker 1: You get to a lobby at some building and usually
Speaker 1: a woman is there to be like, can I get
Speaker 1: you anything? Water, diet coke, And then you just like
Speaker 1: sit on a chair and then you go into a
Speaker 1: meeting and talk about yourself and then nothing happens. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like you're in the lobby and
Speaker 1: all you have at your disposal is water and a
Speaker 1: diet coke and you have to like figure it out
Speaker 1: from there. And then also haunted weed dispensary, like like
Speaker 1: you're blowing you have to blow weed smoke to see
Speaker 1: like a laser light on the wall. There's so many
Speaker 1: good options. I think this isn't a thing that could
Speaker 1: really happen if you win the Emmy and your profile.
Speaker 1: Wait should I make an Emmy for Megan Escape roomy?
Speaker 1: But also just to put one more thing about the series,
Speaker 1: I'm doing. This will come out after the show, but
Speaker 1: I'm doing a show tomorrow Sunday at uc B. That's
Speaker 1: a screening and like a Q and a panel that
Speaker 1: including including my friend Andrew Law, who was cut out
Speaker 1: of the series. Andrew is so funny. We did about
Speaker 1: a two hour long take of a scene that got
Speaker 1: entirely kind. Here's the thing, and my series is not like,
Speaker 1: there's not a high bar for what gotten it. It
Speaker 1: was a lot. I Andrew is a very very good
Speaker 1: friend of mine, so I was like, we're just gonna riff, Like,
Speaker 1: we'll be in my bed together. What do you mean wasted? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll riff around the script. Oh my god, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, because I've seen the script and it's definitely
Speaker 1: the script script. I'm really really proud of the script.
Speaker 1: But we mostly I was like Andrew, how's your day
Speaker 1: and he's like not good? And I was like why
Speaker 1: and he's like, my comes black and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh that sucks. Why and he's like from eating so
Speaker 1: much dirt? And then we just, for like what felt
Speaker 1: like two hours, talked about who's black black calm, and
Speaker 1: it was it just it didn't totally fit with no, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's not about you winning an Emmy. Because honestly,
Speaker 1: you kid, just that was actually really selfish of him. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's a very selfish I have to really come out
Speaker 1: and say that was really selfish of him too, not
Speaker 1: only like disregard your script with this MPO, which I'm
Speaker 1: sorry it is like not an art form now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and how dare he like not talk about like she
Speaker 1: was in a different series. I feel like he just was.
Speaker 1: You know, have you see someone in a movie or whatever,
Speaker 1: You're just like David, don't know what movie they're in.
Speaker 1: Andrew does not know what series is in right now.
Speaker 1: But at the show along with Andrew, it will be
Speaker 1: moderated by Jane Lynch, who won. Yes, I swear to
Speaker 1: god Jane Lynch's moderating. She's such a sweetheart, She's very funny.
Speaker 1: I have not asked her this. I do kind of
Speaker 1: want her to bring her Emmy from Last Hold, the
Speaker 1: real one that I think she has a couple, right,
Speaker 1: she has, she must, but specifically she won for the
Speaker 1: Outstanding Actress in a short farm, comedy or Drama. Can
Speaker 1: I ask one more question about like exactly what qualifies?
Speaker 1: Because I might have a series coming out and I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure it qualified over the rules
Speaker 1: already know, but I need to ask another question about
Speaker 1: I'm happy to help someone who wants to follow, because
Speaker 1: I think I saw this a bone before we came here,
Speaker 1: and he described me as a unique bitch and like
Speaker 1: a passive aggressive tone. And we haven't talked about it,
Speaker 1: but I'm really upset. Um. I identify with you because
Speaker 1: I very badly want to win a major award. And
Speaker 1: that's when I called him at UNI and I said, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: what a unique bitch. And I was like, I smiled
Speaker 1: through it, but I was really upset. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: we're airing it now. Yeah, yeah, and we'll have a
Speaker 1: more in depth discussion about it later. But I feel
Speaker 1: that it was very Hollywood of him to be very
Speaker 1: passive aggressive in the York. Yeah, yeah, can he scowled
Speaker 1: at a uh man who was making my coffee today
Speaker 1: because he took fucking forever. But it's a babe, you
Speaker 1: have to do this made he's we goal weed, right, No,
Speaker 1: you need to relax. He made a latte cocktail with
Speaker 1: like orange, like an orange. I was like, this is outrageous. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it was for someone else. It was for someone else,
Speaker 1: but I literally I was being very l A and
Speaker 1: like like I was like, I even complimented. I was
Speaker 1: like that looks amazing, and then and then um like
Speaker 1: but bo and I could see he's kind of like
Speaker 1: very New York right in that moment. But like, okay,
Speaker 1: so do I am a different fanning himself with metro cards.
Speaker 1: It's like a full deck of them. I guess you've
Speaker 1: really brought your New York, your evil New York energy
Speaker 1: to l A. To be rude to this, you think people. Okay,
Speaker 1: so can I tell you something? First, let me ask
Speaker 1: my question, and then I want to ask another question,
Speaker 1: and the probably after that. So first of all, I
Speaker 1: am thinking about making a webisodes that's five episodes, But
Speaker 1: does that mean I won't you have to have sex
Speaker 1: that is in You have to add another I know
Speaker 1: it's hard, but something that was easy to script right now.
Speaker 1: I know. But here's the thing. So it has to
Speaker 1: be six episodes, but they don't have a minimum time limit.
Speaker 1: Essentially you can make less content and qualify core wreck. Alright,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. You can just do a clip show.
Speaker 1: I don't know what your series is, but just make
Speaker 1: the fifth episode of clip show Okay, okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good idea, alright, but why are you married to five? Well?
Speaker 1: I just that's just what we've been writing down, okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna do five, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be an award contender. You can put it out there,
Speaker 1: but you should do like a two part cliffhanger. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't know what your series is, but I have
Speaker 1: ideas for breaking it up. Okay, now, and you said
Speaker 1: you had a follow up question. I forgot it. Okay, now, Megan,
Speaker 1: when you see but you didn't you didn't foresee this
Speaker 1: Andrew episode while you were breaking this this this season.
Speaker 1: I thought that it was going to just be a
Speaker 1: more natural fit, okay, And I didn't know how I
Speaker 1: was going to edit it necessarily, and I tried to
Speaker 1: get the Andrew scene in there, but it truly was
Speaker 1: just like nothing, Well, there's no there's no dramatic tension
Speaker 1: there because really all it is is a diet stary
Speaker 1: change for him. He'd have to stop eating dirt dirt.
Speaker 1: It was we were trying to be really grounded, remember
Speaker 1: our UCB training of yes, and like like a person,
Speaker 1: remember your training, but it just didn't it just didn't work,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to have a public opportunity to hash
Speaker 1: it out with him. This is new. Have you talked
Speaker 1: about this before. This is the first place you've talked
Speaker 1: about I had to break it to him privately that
Speaker 1: he was not in the series before it because they
Speaker 1: didn't want him to like email his family or anything like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm in this award winning web series and then watch
Speaker 1: with them and I have to see the horror on
Speaker 1: their faces. I realized. But in that scenario that you
Speaker 1: just outlined, for him to email his family and be like,
Speaker 1: look at this award winning web series, you would have
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been like he would have found out
Speaker 1: after the timeline is really confusing there. I have always
Speaker 1: been calling it an award winning web series from day one,
Speaker 1: just because I think you can safely assume at some point,
Speaker 1: but you put it out there in the world now
Speaker 1: I remember my question. Okay, okay, okay, So can I
Speaker 1: get a spoiler? Oh? Of course. Okay. So in the
Speaker 1: last episode, our friend, Um your Phoe Darcy Carden comes
Speaker 1: in and it's very much Um. The episode really takes
Speaker 1: a turn when Darcy kills Megan. Yes, that was the
Speaker 1: only part that was not scripted. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's crazy is I thought we were just going to
Speaker 1: do like it's in my kitchen. I thought it was
Speaker 1: going to be like a Nancy Myers type episode Wonderful Women, Yeah,
Speaker 1: cooking whatever, And uh, yeah, Darcy went psycho. I mean,
Speaker 1: I hate to call a woman crazy. She went crazy, woman,
Speaker 1: crazy woman. She poisoned me. And yes, I mean I've
Speaker 1: barely someone whiter. She's like six ft tall, so it's
Speaker 1: like more white skin than yes'm but she killed me.
Speaker 1: And I also like, I haven't seen Darcy since she
Speaker 1: killed me, and she's going to be in the show tomorrow,
Speaker 1: and I just like, I'm really kind of nervous but
Speaker 1: also excited to get in a fight with her on
Speaker 1: the up stage, right right, right. But I have a
Speaker 1: note for you, I guess. So whenever I enter a room,
Speaker 1: the first thing I think, and this is because of
Speaker 1: survival instinct, which I don't know if you know about
Speaker 1: the climate right now, but I think we need to
Speaker 1: start kicking in our survival instincts. Yeah, whenever I enter
Speaker 1: a room, I think about, Okay, in a moment of madness,
Speaker 1: like how would I kill everyone here. So I think
Speaker 1: you should have thought about that. That's amazing. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have turned your back to Darcy. I don't
Speaker 1: think even you feel like it's safe to do so
Speaker 1: when you're in a web series that's scripted that you're
Speaker 1: like doing the script for. Yeah, you just like can't
Speaker 1: ever let your guard down, even if you're in a
Speaker 1: web series and you were literally turning your back because
Speaker 1: you were putting it together a set deck or your gathering,
Speaker 1: and I think from what I can tell, you were
Speaker 1: just taking chopsticks. Well, yeah, there's I was putting together
Speaker 1: set deck. It's like a very complicated thing. It's like
Speaker 1: an l A. Thanks. So you guys might not we
Speaker 1: don't understand know about it, um, but it stands for
Speaker 1: set decorations, right, Okay, So yeah, the chopsticks were not
Speaker 1: exactly how I wanted them, so I was moving. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need them to be. And so she took that
Speaker 1: opportunity to pour I guess cyanide in your drink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but it did not
Speaker 1: taste good. Killed you? I killed? Oh my god. Can
Speaker 1: I also say like, so I just think for you,
Speaker 1: like a good note would be like find out ways
Speaker 1: that you could kill people before they like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: well season here's the thing I'm ready to officially to
Speaker 1: ideally would come out before the voting is done, but
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, So okay, Emmy voting is June
Speaker 1: eleven at nine am Pacific Daylight's time or whatever standards. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: it's nine am through I think June and then July
Speaker 1: ish is when Emmy nominations are announced, and I am
Speaker 1: ready for whatever happens that day. I think that if
Speaker 1: I get nominated, I'm a shoe and to win. And
Speaker 1: if I'm not nominated, then season two is going to
Speaker 1: be coming back bigger and better than ever. I wanted
Speaker 1: to have the budget of a real television show, and
Speaker 1: I have a lot of stunts that I want to do.
Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be some pyrotechnics I
Speaker 1: want to use, like the letterbox format like Master of
Speaker 1: None does. And I have a lot of stylistic ideas
Speaker 1: for season two. So can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Of course? Is it so it's just outstanding actress in
Speaker 1: a short form? Yes, So this means lead actress and
Speaker 1: supporting actresses all and all acting is combined to But
Speaker 1: here's the other thing, and you might want to look
Speaker 1: into this. For your series, you have to be in
Speaker 1: like more than fifty percent of the episode to count
Speaker 1: as Outstanding Actress. So you were very careful to not
Speaker 1: allow any of that to be more than because you know,
Speaker 1: Darcy is very good in that last episode. Not to
Speaker 1: pull focus from you, but you were also amazing. Luckily
Speaker 1: for me and unluckily for you, she was not in
Speaker 1: enough episode because for this series. But you know, if
Speaker 1: I win the Emmy, I feel like maybe she should
Speaker 1: accept it, or maybe I think like awards are very complicated,
Speaker 1: like maybe I shouldn't accept it at all. You know,
Speaker 1: that would be such, that would be very good, such
Speaker 1: a great term. You need to send someone important in
Speaker 1: your place, though, because you have to do like a
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando. I'm going to send Marlon Brando, as he's
Speaker 1: like a little bag the blood. We'll hit him up. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a fan of the party's famous. He's actually is gay,
Speaker 1: so you know, he's a beautiful gay guy. He's a
Speaker 1: beautiful gay ghost. And I'm beautiful now in the physical world,
Speaker 1: a beautiful little gay bag of blood. So we're going
Speaker 1: to bring him in whatever form. But you know what
Speaker 1: I think is really good of you. Though she might
Speaker 1: not be eligible for this, but you are a good
Speaker 1: friend because you did raise her profile in a huge way.
Speaker 1: Is a real story is that Darcy was at up
Speaker 1: fronts for the show that we were Darcy's on a
Speaker 1: good Place, which I write for the best place, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, wow. But we she was up front and
Speaker 1: someone came up to her and was like, oh my god, Darcy,
Speaker 1: I love you in an Emmy for Megan and seemingly
Speaker 1: did not know that she was on a television show.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is exactly what I want
Speaker 1: to hear. You raised her profile. Yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was the best day of my life. Story between you
Speaker 1: and Darcy, there is just one. The delivery is so
Speaker 1: nuanced because you have a line that goes and this
Speaker 1: is written in the script. You say did you like
Speaker 1: the script I sent? And then she says yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved her like, yeah, yes, we were around it,
Speaker 1: were round it. We watched it again. We were like,
Speaker 1: we have to watch that back. So good Darcy wrote
Speaker 1: that line. Can I also say, like, how mad would
Speaker 1: you be if you want an Emmy for writing an
Speaker 1: Emmy for Magame. Well, it's I literally had a dream
Speaker 1: like last week that the nominations came out and I
Speaker 1: was nominated for Best Wed Series, which is functionally writing it,
Speaker 1: and not for Best Actress. And I was like excited,
Speaker 1: but like kind of upset. You know, I would be
Speaker 1: actually pretty furious. How would the inverse of that be
Speaker 1: if you were nominated for Actress but not for Best
Speaker 1: I think that would be fine because that is the
Speaker 1: one that I'm really going interesting. I want to show.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to show my chops and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the on me for your child. If
Speaker 1: you literally win an Emmy Award for acting huge it,
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Speaker 1: is there an award that we can win for podcasting
Speaker 1: or were we slept? We were were you nominated? We
Speaker 1: submitted ourselves, are submitted us? Did you read all the
Speaker 1: I think so well? I mean like someone like someone
Speaker 1: on the team like probably like looked into it and
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, this is all above board, let's
Speaker 1: submit them. But we didn't. We receive no, happy, happy
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Speaker 1: Thank you? What does that entail my own personal money
Speaker 1: buying one billboard? Thank you. That's the most one of
Speaker 1: the most cost prohibitive things of this whole promotion, the
Speaker 1: campaigning process. If you want a webby you could we
Speaker 1: got yeah, yeah, the first we got. I don't think
Speaker 1: Whoopi Goldberg has a web She doesn't really. I don't
Speaker 1: see her working towards it either, So listen, I mean,
Speaker 1: if she doesn't want to work for it, that that's
Speaker 1: part of the biz, that's part of the industry's very
Speaker 1: She really doesn't work hard. I already know what I
Speaker 1: would say. If I want an award, come on my
Speaker 1: first line. I do so. I would be so surprised,
Speaker 1: even if all the and it's like Sasha Stone, Nathaniel Rodgers,
Speaker 1: even if they all said like it looks like and
Speaker 1: it's Matt Rodgers to lose, I would be surprised. Even
Speaker 1: if I'm not, I would go up to the I
Speaker 1: would get my um emmy from let's say I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I was gonna say htta, but podmas are
Speaker 1: both great. Um So I would get my award, I
Speaker 1: would turn to the mic and I would go for
Speaker 1: the next five seconds, I apologize in advance. That's so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I because because I really want to win, because I
Speaker 1: really want to keep saying it's not it was not
Speaker 1: about the award. It was about the community. It was
Speaker 1: about scripes, but the art. It was not about the award.
Speaker 1: That is, you know, icing on the cave. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: speech would be about how as a child, I would
Speaker 1: grew up watching these shows and just wanted to be
Speaker 1: a part of the community. That's what my speech would
Speaker 1: be about. I grew up listening to podcasts and just
Speaker 1: wanted desperately to be It's like Hayworth on a pod,
Speaker 1: Helen Hayes on a podye of course, Rida Moreno, Rida Moreno.
Speaker 1: I think Rida Marino just legit did WTF she did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to listen to that. I
Speaker 1: love thinking that Mark Brin and Rida Marino were at
Speaker 1: like open mics together, and that's where it's very funny
Speaker 1: from what WTF used to be to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Rita and Mark just had like a really hard history
Speaker 1: in the New York comedy scene, you know, really good
Speaker 1: and this will be a fucking fantastic segue, but um,
Speaker 1: you know it was really good on wtf was Anne Hathaway?
Speaker 1: She was great similarly similarly good who as as we
Speaker 1: scream and shout? She was so good at Ocean's And
Speaker 1: you guys, we've all seen Oceans eight and now we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about we're all under the table right now.
Speaker 1: It's like flat, we've slid, We've slid off the chairs,
Speaker 1: just like I slid off my chair and hit every
Speaker 1: bum bum the way down when the Stars Born trailer
Speaker 1: came on before I was fully wet, and I who
Speaker 1: it was a slip and slide down the screen. Baby
Speaker 1: at the arc light, honey. And then okay, so we
Speaker 1: still at the arc light, and then you can go
Speaker 1: outside and they have all the gowns on display from
Speaker 1: Ocean's eight. So I went to the arc light and
Speaker 1: I did not I feel like I was so blown
Speaker 1: away by this movie. I did not even register the gowns. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't know where to start with this movie was.
Speaker 1: It was first of all, it just was like I
Speaker 1: give it a true A plus plust plus experience. It.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe it has gotten not that good reviews
Speaker 1: because I was like, these are all just like crusty
Speaker 1: old men. Yeah, truly, that's get what this is going for.
Speaker 1: The fact that it's set at the met Gallet is
Speaker 1: like the most genius stroke of story. We plauded when
Speaker 1: they went when they showed it basically was just a drag. Yes,
Speaker 1: the fact that like eight of the most famous actresses
Speaker 1: pretending to be in a movie. But they were just
Speaker 1: being like, look, it's me Kate Blanchet, and like there's
Speaker 1: a scene where Kate Blanchet and Sandra Bullock find Helen
Speaker 1: a bottom carter like eating nutilla on the and who
Speaker 1: was also fantastic. There's some great accent work in this movie,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you found your friend Helen
Speaker 1: a bottom carter, Like could that be? But Anne Hathaway
Speaker 1: is a dream come true. She's so funny, the plumpest
Speaker 1: lips this side of the lips. This is my favorite
Speaker 1: performance she's ever done. It's it is like perfectly self
Speaker 1: parodi ing, but she commits. There's a point where she
Speaker 1: just makes herself cry looking in the mirror because she's
Speaker 1: not thin enough. You're using you're using all of your tools.
Speaker 1: Truly for this movie, there's also like no not to
Speaker 1: give spoilers, there's like no real conflict in the movie.
Speaker 1: It's just like beautiful women hanging out having fun and
Speaker 1: then also having more fun and then also having more friends.
Speaker 1: It's like everything I want. It's so gentle, really was
Speaker 1: so low cove. But there was never even a moment
Speaker 1: where I was like, fun, fun, funk they're going to get?
Speaker 1: Was that how Oceans was? Like? Was there any con
Speaker 1: I think there was. I think there's at least peril
Speaker 1: that the heist isn't gonna work right, And it's like
Speaker 1: for this you're just like these are like it's like
Speaker 1: Barbie dolls hanging out with each other, not like aesthetically,
Speaker 1: but the vibe of just like perfect friends. And then
Speaker 1: at the end after the heist, they're just eating pizza
Speaker 1: together in aloft. I like, there's nothing more soothing. It
Speaker 1: was so soothing. It felt like it was a salve.
Speaker 1: It was like it was a south But it also
Speaker 1: they it's at the met gala that they're doing this heist,
Speaker 1: but then for what I think is forty minutes, they
Speaker 1: just show a fake Matt gala. That is so funny
Speaker 1: to me that they full on just do like Heidie
Speaker 1: Gloom is there in a gown and they are giving
Speaker 1: the audience exactly what they want, which is like mccalli
Speaker 1: was like a month ago and I miss it. So
Speaker 1: I also that you of course get Kim all the
Speaker 1: Kardashians really and like shots just like very present. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's the one. If I have one criticism, it's that
Speaker 1: I wanted to see all right, I wanted to see
Speaker 1: more celebs. I want more like it, like the blending,
Speaker 1: because it's also celebrities playing fake celebrities. I wondered at
Speaker 1: first of Anne Hathaway was going to play An Hathaway.
Speaker 1: It would have been amazing, but it's like clearly they
Speaker 1: I think I loved it in a very sincere way
Speaker 1: because it full force was like we're going to give
Speaker 1: women and queer people exactly what they want, just like
Speaker 1: the We're not going to like just do like a
Speaker 1: girl cast Oceans eleven. We're going to full on make
Speaker 1: it like a much different tone, which I thought was wonderful.
Speaker 1: It was candy. I played this game, this like movie
Speaker 1: box Office game online where you just like rank what
Speaker 1: you think the movie the biggest movies of the summer
Speaker 1: are going to be and I kind of messed up.
Speaker 1: I did put Oceans eight like third like above mission impossible,
Speaker 1: and like Jurassic World, I think it's doing Okay, it was.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not going to make a billion dollars, but
Speaker 1: it was like wishful thanking of Like also, Rihanna, I
Speaker 1: was just going to say on this show, Okay, we
Speaker 1: need to get you need to reach. Yeah, I've thought
Speaker 1: about it. Okay, Well, the thing is I think that
Speaker 1: we have a lot and she just a w TF.
Speaker 1: I honestly as my generations, Rihanna. God see, I think
Speaker 1: that's what's keeping me. That's what's keeping me from winning
Speaker 1: winning acting and podcasting awards because everyone thinks of me
Speaker 1: as an iconic singer. Yeah, it's hard to separate you
Speaker 1: into your various talents because really you just think like umbrella,
Speaker 1: So you think that that's something that she really thinks
Speaker 1: like she's like, oh, They're not going to take me
Speaker 1: seriously as an actress because I'm an iconic pop star, Rihanna.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think maybe she's like so iconic as like
Speaker 1: the type of person that she is that I feel
Speaker 1: like even the character she was playing in this movie
Speaker 1: was like Rihanna influenced. Yes, I want to see her
Speaker 1: as like like in the hours, like so we're in
Speaker 1: the deep end of the pool, see how it goes.
Speaker 1: But she said she portrayed a believable sister sister. Um,
Speaker 1: like I believe that that little girl her sisters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I also how lucky is that little girl who
Speaker 1: is Rihanna's sister? Anyone who had a bit part of
Speaker 1: that movie. Our friend Will Stephen was in the movie
Speaker 1: for two seconds, like I thought that was I also
Speaker 1: went basically face blind and I saw the movie with
Speaker 1: one of his friends and was going to lean over
Speaker 1: and he was like him and then I was like, no,
Speaker 1: of course not no. It was he was getting funked
Speaker 1: up at Aquafina and that and I guess Washington Square Park, Yes,
Speaker 1: I did it. I reckon it's. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's a perfect movie, perfect movie. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to go. It's in the same way that like
Speaker 1: Magic Mike XXL is one of my favorite movies because like,
Speaker 1: nothing bad happens and it is like really kind and
Speaker 1: shows masculinity in a way that's really positive. I felt
Speaker 1: the same way leaving this movie, which was like nothing
Speaker 1: bad happened and it was those friends and I love that,
Speaker 1: Like you get the sense that they're going to remain friends,
Speaker 1: Like they all get on the subway together and like, yes,
Speaker 1: they all go off and do there because spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: they win guys, Like they get away with the heist,
Speaker 1: like that's part of it. Um, But then they all
Speaker 1: go to the activities. But you do get a sense
Speaker 1: that they will get together and like, you know, eat
Speaker 1: more pizza in that loft. Yeah, they're going to get
Speaker 1: together and go see Oceans or honestly, I bet they
Speaker 1: all get together and get Stone and see Jurassic World Fallen. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: which I'm actually really excited about too. It looks bad,
Speaker 1: shit crazy, I am really excited. Um. I have a
Speaker 1: few friends we've seen it and said that it's good.
Speaker 1: Apparently there's a scene where I don't I feel like
Speaker 1: this is real. It might be ingest where they like
Speaker 1: have a close up on ry style as Howard's shoes
Speaker 1: which are flats, to be like we're not we're not
Speaker 1: fucking around this time, She's not wearing she hot. I
Speaker 1: would never take her out of those heels. I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they should be higher this time, should be higher like
Speaker 1: nine inch stilettos. Yeah, the flats lower the stakes. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you heighten? For me? That was like a highlight
Speaker 1: of the first movie, Like there was like like the
Speaker 1: scene with Lauren Laptus and Jake Johnson to me was
Speaker 1: the best thing about the movie. We talked about this
Speaker 1: with with Gabers, like it took me out of the
Speaker 1: movie where you're like, oh wait, this is a good comment.
Speaker 1: This is like a great idea and crazy blockbuster. And
Speaker 1: then the second best part of the movie had to
Speaker 1: be Bryce Dallas Howard's nude heels, Like that had to be.
Speaker 1: I think that they should lean into them this time
Speaker 1: and like keep showing close ups where there's no like
Speaker 1: mud or anything like that. And I also feel like
Speaker 1: she should functionally be like floating through the whole movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she They should be like show her feet running. Look, director,
Speaker 1: they should show her feet running, but like her feet
Speaker 1: don't really touch the ground. They get like half an
Speaker 1: inch away from the ground, don't. Let's actually luck it
Speaker 1: in as rule of culture. It's rule of culture number
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Bryce Stallas Howard always be Yeah, they she
Speaker 1: should get them surgically planted, and her iconic haircut is
Speaker 1: now gone, and she's wearing like a ponytail, like a
Speaker 1: more functional, like dinosaur saving ponytail. But they can't grab
Speaker 1: you by that pony. I know. I was going to say,
Speaker 1: we're getting a full master, but obviously a man wrote
Speaker 1: this movie. If they're going to think that those dinosaurs
Speaker 1: aren't going to go right for that ponytail, that they've
Speaker 1: never been on a job, Yes, exactly. Listen. I am
Speaker 1: so excited to go see the movie and I'm I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand from it that they have to return to
Speaker 1: the island to save the dinosaurs because the island is
Speaker 1: going to explode. That is so it's like a volcano island,
Speaker 1: and so they understand that they have to go talk
Speaker 1: back to the island. It's a son to save the
Speaker 1: dinosaurs and I don't know, bring them where. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but the island does explode, and that's what you see
Speaker 1: in the trailer is the whole island exploding, dinosaurs hopping
Speaker 1: in the water, and if what we're seeing is to
Speaker 1: be believed, the dinosaurs come back to society and they
Speaker 1: like teach them how to be real English ladies, fair lady,
Speaker 1: or they eat everybody all or Beaty Wang comes back
Speaker 1: um and like just like like invites them to his
Speaker 1: all Asian brunch. In the first Durassic he was the first,
Speaker 1: and he was in the original he was sort of
Speaker 1: a villain. Yeah, I think he is the villain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is I was thinking in the car there was
Speaker 1: like not a line I wish I had written more
Speaker 1: than clever Girl. I think it is one of the
Speaker 1: best lines. It can be used. Like it's so good
Speaker 1: in the first movie. It's also so good as like camp.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable to think about that. They when Spielberg was
Speaker 1: making Jurassic Park, he knew it was going to be huge.
Speaker 1: And in the script there's the line hold onto your butts.
Speaker 1: And they said, and they said, you know, hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of people are going to see this, keep it.
Speaker 1: Keep the line. It's you know, he fought for that line.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stick with it. I mean would say it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the character would say. This character was Every frame had
Speaker 1: to be like poured over, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Let's let's really decide it and hold onto here abouts
Speaker 1: have made it And and Clever Girl made it and
Speaker 1: all these things, and it's just like, will be thankful today.
Speaker 1: You don't have enough catch phrases where catch phrase queenspid
Speaker 1: time like Oceans Loved It, but like give me, give me, well,
Speaker 1: give me like Anne Hathaway like saying something like I
Speaker 1: don't know what's a good what's a good? Hold onto
Speaker 1: your lips. I think there's a sleeper there's a sleeper
Speaker 1: quote catchphrase in Oceans eight, which she's doing the like
Speaker 1: the walkthrough tour of the exhibit and the camera crews
Speaker 1: following I know what you're gonna say, and god you
Speaker 1: might remember how many? How many? But that was that
Speaker 1: was the classes we got to like a catchphraseer she
Speaker 1: gives you over the shoulder, movie star glamour enough like
Speaker 1: so fun, okay it is so no, no, no no, we're
Speaker 1: gonna say it just is. It is drag queens like
Speaker 1: everyone they're studied at least drag race. If not, you
Speaker 1: could do the same, you could you could do like
Speaker 1: the heightened person know that I was on RuPaul's drag
Speaker 1: you Yeah, I was like, I feel like I have
Speaker 1: to not leave this podcast without bringing them tell us everything,
Speaker 1: who who who was there? Who was there? Well? I was.
Speaker 1: When I first moved out to l A like seven
Speaker 1: years ago. I was on an extras casting website because
Speaker 1: I just was like working on casting networks. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to do like weird stuff and film my days
Speaker 1: and make money. And on the casting website was a
Speaker 1: pasting notice for like, are you a sad woman? Do
Speaker 1: you love gay people? Then sign up for this new
Speaker 1: show check and check and checkmate. And I wrote an
Speaker 1: essay that was like mostly based in reality but essay driven.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, I exaggerated some things, um,
Speaker 1: and then you attached a photo and they called me
Speaker 1: in for like a in person interview and they were like,
Speaker 1: don't dress up rest normally. So my normal was I
Speaker 1: were full like a red track suit and then a
Speaker 1: huge nit sweater that had a big duck on the back,
Speaker 1: and I wore ballet slippers and my retainer and just
Speaker 1: like my glasses and looked horrible. I also like hadn't
Speaker 1: cut my hair in like four years, and they're like,
Speaker 1: you are you know exactly what we're looking for. So
Speaker 1: I was on an episode and drag you if you
Speaker 1: do not remember, which probably everyone does. They would have
Speaker 1: three women who the queens would make over into drag
Speaker 1: queens to give them the confidence of a drag queen.
Speaker 1: And it was a single episode competition and I did
Speaker 1: win my episode. I was not problematic at all, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I mean it's very layered, but I will
Speaker 1: say Rue is like the nicest person ever, and truly
Speaker 1: believed that he was like making our lives but like
Speaker 1: it was so sincere, and I truly was like, this
Speaker 1: is a very sweet person. And I had a one
Speaker 1: on one interview with Rue where I tried to make
Speaker 1: myself cry during it. But and I cannot find the
Speaker 1: episode online anyway. They truly did. I can't even like
Speaker 1: buy it. There's pictures of me online though my drag
Speaker 1: name was Smoky Saint James. And it was like I
Speaker 1: was kind of conflicted about doing it when I first did,
Speaker 1: because I was like making up crazy ship to say
Speaker 1: and I was like should I do this? I remember
Speaker 1: talking with my mom being like is this like horrible
Speaker 1: that I'm doing this? And then now it is like
Speaker 1: the only thing I care that I've done. Which drag
Speaker 1: queen made you over? Maria. My episode was Maria Raven
Speaker 1: and ju Ju B Juju B, who I am a
Speaker 1: big fan of uh was great. I feel like the
Speaker 1: queens did not really want to talk to about contested camera,
Speaker 1: which was fine, I there's but then the other girls
Speaker 1: I was competing against, We're both like lovely young women
Speaker 1: who I like became Facebook friends with. And I then
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this sucks that I'm basically
Speaker 1: doing this is a bit like they seemingly were doing
Speaker 1: it for real. All three of you like sort of
Speaker 1: like opted into the same thing. Something true, It was
Speaker 1: just different things. Yeah, but we we had a lip
Speaker 1: sync and I lip sync. Let's get physical. I feel
Speaker 1: like I really really gave it my own. I will
Speaker 1: send it to someone. Is that the connection that got
Speaker 1: RuPaul on your web series? I so Ruepaul. That's the
Speaker 1: first time I met Roue. And then like he followed
Speaker 1: me on Twitter a few years ago and I messaged
Speaker 1: almost like hey, I'm such a big fan. But also
Speaker 1: funny thing is that I was this person. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I totally remember you. And then when
Speaker 1: I was working at the Simpsons last winter, he actually
Speaker 1: came on into the voice and he's so funny and
Speaker 1: I got to hang out there and uh yeah, So
Speaker 1: so I emailed I emailed from my web series I
Speaker 1: Give with a bunch of famous people when you will
Speaker 1: see who I am varying degrees of friends with, and
Speaker 1: it was like but like sort of, it was just like,
Speaker 1: this is the stupidest possible thing I could ask you for.
Speaker 1: And some people just immediately email back, like in two seconds.
Speaker 1: Row in two seconds emailed back and sent me some
Speaker 1: yeah and something. There's like hilarious clip that was like, girl,
Speaker 1: I do not think you should be doing this. You
Speaker 1: seem desperate. I just it's a really bad look. But honestly,
Speaker 1: if you want this on me, I'm all behind you.
Speaker 1: Bit And it was like I could not believe it,
Speaker 1: and I was so grateful to these people for playing along.
Speaker 1: Rue was the only one that tried to talk some sense.
Speaker 1: I know. Everyone else was like, Megan, you're doing great.
Speaker 1: Your web series is amazing, But the thing that Rue
Speaker 1: is the truth teller? Truly? Are you a drag Race fan?
Speaker 1: I am, yeah, So to this thing? Who are you
Speaker 1: pulling for? Going forward? Um? Miss Fongjie And she's not
Speaker 1: she's she's coming back. Well, rumor has it that she
Speaker 1: she'll be back for season eleven. Rumor hasn't gotten her
Speaker 1: on my website. Next year, my website is gonna be
Speaker 1: full drag race. We just did with Alaska and so fantastic.
Speaker 1: They were great for them. We're going to ask you
Speaker 1: what we ask all of our guests. Yes, we can't
Speaker 1: believe we're only getting to it now. We're all doing
Speaker 1: it now. The conversation is rollick, it's rolling. But then
Speaker 1: we'll ask, and then we'll move on. What is the
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture is for me? This
Speaker 1: is to say that it's like like a piece of art,
Speaker 1: a book, a film, a TV show, a neighborhood, you
Speaker 1: know whatever. You woke up one day and you said, oh,
Speaker 1: and this is like the culture that sang back. Well,
Speaker 1: my very very sincere answer is Steven Sonheim, which I
Speaker 1: from We were playing this game at work last week
Speaker 1: which was like which celebrity should they die? Do you
Speaker 1: feel complete ownership over? Like who is the person that
Speaker 1: for you would be like, this is someone who was
Speaker 1: in my life to such an an intimate extent, And
Speaker 1: we were trying to list like three people, and I
Speaker 1: was like, the only person for me is Steven Sonheim,
Speaker 1: which from the time I was like a little kid,
Speaker 1: my mom is a huge Broadway. I'm like a huge
Speaker 1: Broadway that it's not clear and uh so introduced me
Speaker 1: very young. But I just feel like every stage of
Speaker 1: my life growing up, I was like, oh, so, you
Speaker 1: can be incredible as a musician, and you can be funny,
Speaker 1: and you can be really dark, and you can be
Speaker 1: like sassy with attitude all at the same time and
Speaker 1: just really clever. And I feel like that sensibility carries
Speaker 1: out into so many of my different interests. But also
Speaker 1: because that he always operates in such specific atmospheres, like
Speaker 1: that's something into the Woods is like just so genius
Speaker 1: that he took those stories and made it into what
Speaker 1: I think Sweeney Todd is, for me, the best thing
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I agree. I actually have said this
Speaker 1: multiple times that I was like, I think sweet is
Speaker 1: the best piece of art that exists. And I'm willing
Speaker 1: to have this this hopefully not argument but conversation with anyone,
Speaker 1: which is like it most successfully accomplishes the thing it's
Speaker 1: trying to set out to do. But it's also like,
Speaker 1: I love I love things that are like super on
Speaker 1: with like an intense edge to them. Um So that
Speaker 1: to me, Sweeney Todd in Middle school or high school.
Speaker 1: When I first started listening to it was like so influential, groundbreaking. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Before I moved here, I thought I wanted to move
Speaker 1: to New York and try to write Broadway Theater and
Speaker 1: then was like, I guess I'll move to l A instead,
Speaker 1: But somedale moved to New York. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to knock them out. I really ideally want to
Speaker 1: get a bit egot where like I somehow play the
Speaker 1: system in each of the category. One of my friends
Speaker 1: that were pitched that I should make a short film
Speaker 1: about the making of an Emmy for Megan and submitted
Speaker 1: for an Oscar documentary, which perfect. I'm going to work
Speaker 1: on that. Honestly, you know what. You know what I
Speaker 1: think is the easiest way to win an Oscar. You
Speaker 1: write a song in a movie. Yes, that is the easiest.
Speaker 1: It's like it seems like they're just giving these out,
Speaker 1: given them out, Sam Smith, not nomin or like write
Speaker 1: it for an iconic film. I wrote. Yeah, I wrote
Speaker 1: for the Oscars this year. It was extremely fun but
Speaker 1: mostly like the craziest thing that I saw during this
Speaker 1: It also was unbelievable to see it like Sufie and
Speaker 1: Stephens singing in front of me was really amazing. But
Speaker 1: for dress rehearsal the day before the Oscars, I did
Speaker 1: not know this. The musicians come and sing their real songs,
Speaker 1: and so you get like Mary J. Blige singing only
Speaker 1: to you and like ten other people. But for the
Speaker 1: so they can time the winners, they have stand ins
Speaker 1: who are extras who maybe kind of look like the
Speaker 1: people who could win, who come up and give fake speeches,
Speaker 1: but they write them. These stand ins write them like
Speaker 1: they are the people winning, and no share it on
Speaker 1: these people. It's like an amazing job and you get
Speaker 1: to pretend like you're winning an oscar. But so like
Speaker 1: someone would play like Timothy shall Amy or whatever coming
Speaker 1: up to the stage and are they holding a statue,
Speaker 1: they get a fake statue and they'll be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, thank you so much, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 1: like the youngest winner or whatever. Like facts about these
Speaker 1: people flies and sometimes they go along and have to
Speaker 1: get played off, and I was like, this is the
Speaker 1: most mind blowing thing I've ever seen. So obsessed with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, this needs to be like a Christopher
Speaker 1: guest thing. The weirdest group. And I also was like
Speaker 1: I got the sense that they did feel like they
Speaker 1: were winning, which again it just was like you get
Speaker 1: you're on the stage people just like Mary J. Blige
Speaker 1: is saying with a choir, it feels real. You can't
Speaker 1: help but like live it a little bit. You're like,
Speaker 1: this might be the closest I get to this. This
Speaker 1: is amazing. I did a stand in for the ABC
Speaker 1: Upfronts a few years ago. It was and like it
Speaker 1: was the year and they all had us do different
Speaker 1: like like, um, like we had a stand in for
Speaker 1: certain people and read what they were going to be
Speaker 1: saying off the prompter. So we had to be good
Speaker 1: reading off a prompter. And like I was playing John Ridley,
Speaker 1: who created American Crime on ABC, and I had to
Speaker 1: like do the speech that was like you know when
Speaker 1: they announced like a Best Picture nominee, like and it's like,
Speaker 1: this is American Crime. I was serving you presenter And
Speaker 1: then they were, like someone said to me afterwards, They're like,
Speaker 1: you really read the copy very well. And it was
Speaker 1: the best compliment anyone ever gives me, because you know,
Speaker 1: as someone who wants to be involved in awards shows
Speaker 1: going forward, I would love to be a presenter. I
Speaker 1: would love be presented. But now you'll know if you
Speaker 1: win for real, that you can like talk with the standard,
Speaker 1: like you'll know how to talk with this, and I'll
Speaker 1: be able to go up to them as like a
Speaker 1: talent and be like I was, how of you guys?
Speaker 1: I know, like this is a lot of standing, it's
Speaker 1: lot of sitting. Standard never get it. I get it,
Speaker 1: and somebody will be like me right now, winning Best
Speaker 1: Webby Best Webby, this bit we got. I'm obsessed. We
Speaker 1: got for Megan. We have to we have to make
Speaker 1: it happen. It's it's it could span a career, I
Speaker 1: mean literally. Okay, I have a question for you. What
Speaker 1: is the best version of Sweeney Todd that you've seen?
Speaker 1: Because I am an I have seen. I saw two
Speaker 1: different productions of the one that's off Broadway right now
Speaker 1: at the that church. Yeah, I think I forgot what
Speaker 1: it's called Barrow Theater, and that was a really I
Speaker 1: thought that was a great production. Um, just because it's
Speaker 1: so intimate. You're basically sitting in the stage and they
Speaker 1: like serve you pie. And I am like just truly
Speaker 1: partial to the original, which my mom a huge musical
Speaker 1: theater person. She has said that the best day of
Speaker 1: her life was giving birth to me and my twin brother,
Speaker 1: and the second best day of her life was when
Speaker 1: she was like twenty and saw the original Broadway production
Speaker 1: of Sweeney Todd and like it was like crying at
Speaker 1: the end by how much she loved it, but so emotional.
Speaker 1: It's just like angel Landsbury, who is just truly a queen,
Speaker 1: was like so good at embodying the comment the comedy
Speaker 1: of Mrs Lovett, but then also the like true desperation
Speaker 1: of her ultimate tragedy. Like has a great voice, and
Speaker 1: I just think like as a performer, she's so warm
Speaker 1: and funny, and there's very few people like that where
Speaker 1: I really just like love them and they're not larger
Speaker 1: than like Patty Lapone is amazing, but she's like hilarious
Speaker 1: because she's so larger than life that you're like, that's
Speaker 1: Patty LuPone. Angela is more subtle in the way. My
Speaker 1: favorite that I will sit down and watch the whole
Speaker 1: thing like maybe three or four times a year is
Speaker 1: the concert version with Patty Lapone and George Hearn and
Speaker 1: Neal Patrick Harris, And I think that is amazing to me.
Speaker 1: And what's emblematic of what's so great about that is
Speaker 1: Patty Lapone's performance of Worst Pies in London because of
Speaker 1: what you said, like the broad kind of like genius
Speaker 1: execution of comedy there while she's singing in this opera
Speaker 1: attic style, just note perfectly telling the story. Because sometimes
Speaker 1: with Angela Lansbury and this is and and listen, listen,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, it's a safe space. I trust
Speaker 1: my sister's UM. I have a hard time and this
Speaker 1: is my problem with Helen A. Bottom Carter in the movie.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time hearing exactly what every single
Speaker 1: word is. But Patty laponez was Partes and none, like
Speaker 1: she's just giving you, she's giving you no um for
Speaker 1: your consideration. No, but for me, that number and that
Speaker 1: whole show, that performance of it, I just love because
Speaker 1: they leaned into the comedy and I think it's so funny,
Speaker 1: but it's also so scary and dark. And also I
Speaker 1: love that it's just everyone's in like studio blacks and
Speaker 1: they're just like doing the thing. And like I think
Speaker 1: of Swen, my god, I love you would love to
Speaker 1: be love it. You would be great and you guys
Speaker 1: can be whoever you should be because you're evil and dark,
Speaker 1: because I'm evil and dark, and I think that I
Speaker 1: think I think i'll be and don't don't know one yell,
Speaker 1: but I think I want to be Johanna. Oh that
Speaker 1: would be beautify. I wait one more thing about when
Speaker 1: you shot and then I promised all stop talking about it.
Speaker 1: One of my friends, who's a Broadway fan, brought up
Speaker 1: that he is one certain that Sweeney Todd and Mrs
Speaker 1: Lovett have sucked by the end of the show, like
Speaker 1: that this is a big discussion, and I was like
Speaker 1: blown away because I never once considered that in my
Speaker 1: entire life of listening to every single note of this show.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's clear to me that he
Speaker 1: has no use for her and that she is very
Speaker 1: like obsessed with how withholding he is and just like
Speaker 1: keeps doing stuff for him. Like maybe I've I've been
Speaker 1: in the place of having an unrequited crush one or twice,
Speaker 1: one or twice where it's just like no one is
Speaker 1: giving you anything, so you're just like, I'll do anything
Speaker 1: for you. I'll go get you sandwich from CBS. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you keep feeling so that's what I always assumed
Speaker 1: she was. And then they're like, no, he doesn't like her,
Speaker 1: but he's just like they're in a relationship or whatever.
Speaker 1: And that seemed crazy. My ap let teacher had had
Speaker 1: to take on this. She said, study Sweeney Todd and
Speaker 1: he says, when my ap let teacher gay school. But
Speaker 1: I was so lucky because and this is actually an
Speaker 1: insane story, but I took a plet in high school
Speaker 1: and she like had us read all this these amazing
Speaker 1: novels and everything. But then she was like, we're going
Speaker 1: to actually stop the curriculum and you guys are gonna um.
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd was coming out of the movie and she
Speaker 1: was like, everyone goes see the movie this weekend and
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about Stevenson time and Sweeney Todd because
Speaker 1: what he does is in a way literally and um.
Speaker 1: So I went and saw it and the movie was
Speaker 1: like my first time ever seeing the story of it
Speaker 1: all the way through. And I do look back on
Speaker 1: the movie and I understand what it is, but I
Speaker 1: have like a like a dislike of it. The movie. Um.
Speaker 1: I was trying to like tiptoe around that, but the
Speaker 1: movie sucks. Um. But she was like in this movie,
Speaker 1: those characters have sucked. And she was like, in other
Speaker 1: forms of it, like in the first when they taught,
Speaker 1: I don't think they've sucked, but in this movie they fucked.
Speaker 1: It just depends on whatever. And I was like, what's
Speaker 1: making you say that. She's like, look at the way
Speaker 1: that like like she's covetous of him, but like it's
Speaker 1: like a more casual, lived in thing, Like you can
Speaker 1: get the sense that looking at those two actors and
Speaker 1: those are like little more sexual than than Angela Lansbury plays, right,
Speaker 1: which is like matronly and Sanya. I can tell you
Speaker 1: that in our production, me and Bowen will have know
Speaker 1: it's going to be over and possibly on the stage. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Steven Sneim will send us a letter. He sends us,
Speaker 1: He sends letters. They were going to do an all
Speaker 1: male company at NYU. Here's the thing. Oh sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't mean to. As I explained at the beginning of this,
Speaker 1: when I flew to New York last weekend to see
Speaker 1: all of Angels in American one day, I then was
Speaker 1: read which I really loved. I was reading about the
Speaker 1: director whose name is Maryanne Elliott. I think um and
Speaker 1: I was reading about her, and they were saying that
Speaker 1: she managed to convince Donheim to put on a all
Speaker 1: female company that they're doing in the West End, and
Speaker 1: she's such a talented director, and I'm like unbelievably excited
Speaker 1: for it, and I feel like maybe I'm cast. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't like audition and no one knows
Speaker 1: who I am. Would you want to be a Bobby
Speaker 1: I don't think I'd think. I think truly, I should
Speaker 1: just always play crazy people. So like Elaine Elaine Stretch,
Speaker 1: I would love I do it. I do it, not
Speaker 1: even when I'm supposed to be doing it. I'd come
Speaker 1: in during someone else's song and just start doing it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love company. Can say it can
Speaker 1: make something sinful. I have never seen any iteration of
Speaker 1: Sweeny Todd besides the movie, and it's like completely ruined
Speaker 1: it for me. And I don't send you the link,
Speaker 1: um send me the link because you know because now
Speaker 1: because now they're putting up all like the original productions
Speaker 1: on YouTube and you can watch the whole thing. One.
Speaker 1: I've been one day just like getting Stone and watching
Speaker 1: all of Sunday in the Park, like Bernadette Man was
Speaker 1: the best. I've seen so many bootleg Broadway shows on YouTube,
Speaker 1: which is like a sign of like true obsession. Is
Speaker 1: like me and like one of my best friends from
Speaker 1: school would just watch like Wicked taped on a cam
Speaker 1: quarter in the back row and you just like see
Speaker 1: half of someone's head in it, and I just craved
Speaker 1: it so much I had to watch it. There's also
Speaker 1: me and my roommate for there's like a two hour
Speaker 1: super cut of everyone who's played Alphaba. I was just
Speaker 1: and I from The Wizard and I, and it is
Speaker 1: like so funny, but then also genuinely or just like
Speaker 1: that was great. That was That's a great riff. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard that one before. I have seen every single
Speaker 1: defying gravity performance. Yeah, and there is one single one
Speaker 1: that is the best. Her name is Brandy Chavon Massey
Speaker 1: and she she was an understudy who got her moment
Speaker 1: Darling and she told everyone when she said, She's like,
Speaker 1: if I'm going on, I will be unforgettable. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it'll be good, I don't know if it
Speaker 1: will be the single, but it will be unforgettable. Do
Speaker 1: do it yourself a favor. Listen to the last two
Speaker 1: minutes of Brandy chevon Massey's only defying gravity. It is full.
Speaker 1: I did not realize you we did so so so
Speaker 1: the way that you do the last trips. She even
Speaker 1: like she and the lead and the lead to it.
Speaker 1: It's a wild ride and we are on it. But
Speaker 1: the least the left that she decided to do instead
Speaker 1: of was and I was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: You hear her throat rip and half honestly, everyone in
Speaker 1: the audience is dead. Just keep happing to go up.
Speaker 1: And then once like you could tell all the whole
Speaker 1: company was like they were just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: no one survived, nobody. That is like the end, believe
Speaker 1: it all out on this thing. She can't possibly have
Speaker 1: done too After that, she has no way. She's singing
Speaker 1: no good day after the experience that was, I'm like
Speaker 1: flop sweating thinking about her doing that. Everyone overwhelmed. Go YouTube.
Speaker 1: It is a moment in time, a moment in time.
Speaker 1: And also like that's such as it's like trash, but
Speaker 1: Wicked is so clever. I think it's good. I think
Speaker 1: it's definitely clever. There's definitely like four or five songs
Speaker 1: when you're like people wonderful. It's wonderful. It's like a
Speaker 1: w n B A thing. People should on it all
Speaker 1: the time. It's a punchling now. But it's it's so
Speaker 1: good first of all, Like I truly think it's such
Speaker 1: a good story of like female friendship. It's like a
Speaker 1: really great not it's like not about the romance really,
Speaker 1: and I think that's so fun. It's about aspiration. It's
Speaker 1: I definitely want to play like fat Glenda. That's like
Speaker 1: another one of like my idea. I mean, I won't
Speaker 1: say I'm fat, I'll say that I'm a big Glinda.
Speaker 1: Glenda was never like wait specific, I know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like every Glender I've seen has been so tiny.
Speaker 1: Megan has hips and like a five eight, like I
Speaker 1: broke a chair as I said, I'm just like a
Speaker 1: like a dense woman. And then you want to play
Speaker 1: you want to play big Jewish Glinda. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to play Jewish Glinda. I think that's a great idea. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're talking about doing no, we're talking about the
Speaker 1: imaging Wicked and um, you play um Alphabet in act
Speaker 1: one and I do Alphabet in act two, and we
Speaker 1: switch roles, so we do Glinda Alphabet. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's too You're like, it's like,
Speaker 1: I think it's a weekend of shows and then one
Speaker 1: night we would play one during Yeah, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't like that, and I don't like that, and I
Speaker 1: won't do that. I should switch off mid scene, Like,
Speaker 1: I think you need to start like playing with it.
Speaker 1: We're like, but I also obviously want the two alphabets
Speaker 1: to like get in a fight. Yeah, you want the
Speaker 1: whole show to breakdown and become about it behind the
Speaker 1: scenes melt down. Yes, yeah, I love that. Okay, before
Speaker 1: we go on to constructed Wicket, deconstructed Wicket, Before we
Speaker 1: move on, what did you think of Angels? That is amazing?
Speaker 1: I did? This is like my I had heard a
Speaker 1: lot of amazing things about Andrew Garfield, who I did
Speaker 1: not like. My hot take is like, why is he
Speaker 1: doing what I felt like was a caricature. It's like
Speaker 1: that was just my personal reaction. Is I felt like
Speaker 1: I was watching him doing this character and being like,
Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Garfield and look at how much I'm putting
Speaker 1: myself through to play Prior Walter, the guy who played Louis,
Speaker 1: who I had never seen before, and it turns out
Speaker 1: is like a Scottish guy playing a flawless like Jewish
Speaker 1: nebishy guy was unbelievable. I kept thinking that he was
Speaker 1: forgetting his lines because he was so natural on stage.
Speaker 1: And also like, I am not a good actor. I'm
Speaker 1: a good web series actor. I'm a good I think
Speaker 1: like theater comedy actor. I'm not like someone who has
Speaker 1: figured out what all the lines mean. Like I thought
Speaker 1: of going over a script and being like, what is
Speaker 1: this person trying to say? I'm like, no, say a joke.
Speaker 1: But so when I see actual good acting, I'm like
Speaker 1: so blown away by it. And also just seeing ten
Speaker 1: hours of theater is like, oh my god. Like literally
Speaker 1: I went to New York red Eye, got in Saturday,
Speaker 1: saw ten hours of theater and left on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: it was like so soothing and you don't get that. No,
Speaker 1: that's a pilgrimage. It's literally like a religious journey. I
Speaker 1: live my brand. Do people usually see it in one
Speaker 1: day or do they do it on two different days?
Speaker 1: People have been doing it, like Josh thought, like did
Speaker 1: the whole one day thing. It's good to do it
Speaker 1: all in one day because it truly like you forget
Speaker 1: about the world. You're just like And also because you're
Speaker 1: watching these actors having memorized too full like four hour plays,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. I like have a horrible memory. I don't
Speaker 1: remember how I got to this podcast. I floated here somehow.
Speaker 1: The thought of like having to memorize that many words,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's very scary. But you were very good
Speaker 1: at memorizing the very real stress script. Yeah yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 1: for like three minute episodes. I'm really actually very good
Speaker 1: at memorize. But the scripts, I mean, I wrote the scripts,
Speaker 1: so I think it's easier when when you write the
Speaker 1: scripts out, which is why I always demands to be
Speaker 1: the writer an actor on all my projects. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: If I'm ever like lucky enough to book anything, I'll
Speaker 1: just tell them great and I have to go come
Speaker 1: in and just quickly rewrite the whole script and just
Speaker 1: be easier for me to memorize of um wow, this
Speaker 1: I literally I literally could go on for many hours hours.
Speaker 1: But then here's the good news if you and it's
Speaker 1: tonight people is I don't think so honey live the
Speaker 1: Eco Plex. So if you want more of all of this,
Speaker 1: you can come out to the Eco Plex tonight. Doors
Speaker 1: open at eight pm and shell will begin at nine pm,
Speaker 1: and Megan is going to be there. I love that
Speaker 1: it's Saturday right now, but we can be like tonight
Speaker 1: and you're listening, it's going to be Tuesday. That's an industry.
Speaker 1: Can see who listen after Tuesday? You still hear a
Speaker 1: say tonight, Yeah, yeah, yeah, if it's Tuesday, June twelve, guys,
Speaker 1: it's tonight. If it's any other time, not, don't go
Speaker 1: to the You're going to see some rock bands of course.
Speaker 1: Oh we got our dates mixed step. This is not
Speaker 1: coming out intent that's coming in June twelve, a day
Speaker 1: after Emmy voting opens, Okay, right, but you can still
Speaker 1: vote on the twelve, Yes, yeah, you can vote until
Speaker 1: until another day. Yeah, you're an Emmy voter. It's really
Speaker 1: important that you click on that little box that says
Speaker 1: Megan and Ram and Emmy for Megan. Um, but you
Speaker 1: guys also um villains of Megan's life Andrew Law and
Speaker 1: Darcy Carton will both be there as well. So would
Speaker 1: be great and more and more. But it's time. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And what is I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, bow, I don't think, so honey. Is our
Speaker 1: segment where we take one minute to rail against something
Speaker 1: in culture while saying the words I don't think, so honey. So, Matt,
Speaker 1: do you have something I do and it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: figured out, but I feel like I could talk a
Speaker 1: lot too. I am. I'm on the same boat. But
Speaker 1: let's do you want to start first? First? This is
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think when his time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. John Jacob jingle Heimer Schmidt's song. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's just briefly go through with This is John
Speaker 1: Jacob jingle Heimer Schman. His name is my name too.
Speaker 1: Whenever we go out that people always shout they say
Speaker 1: John Jacob jingle Heimershman naa na na Okay. First of all,
Speaker 1: who named their kid this? Second of all, very unlikely.
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey, that someone else has that name.
Speaker 1: His name is my name too. You're going to run
Speaker 1: into someone with John Jacob jingle Haimer Smith. I think
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of questions about the reality of this.
Speaker 1: This is not a ground to reality. Furthermore, his name
Speaker 1: is my name too. Whenever we go out. So now
Speaker 1: what what connects you? The fact that your name is
Speaker 1: is the same things that I hate. I would not
Speaker 1: go hang out with them. Whenever we go out. Apparently
Speaker 1: it's a lot. People always shout. They say, John, Jacob,
Speaker 1: Jingle Heimer Schmidt. Now, where the funk do you live?
Speaker 1: This is a really aggressive area and you need to move.
Speaker 1: I don't think, so, honey, the way you're living your life.
Speaker 1: Get a better friend with a more dynamic name, that's real,
Speaker 1: and they stop with this toxic energy. And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: I really don't like that song. So I don't like
Speaker 1: that song. I don't thank you for that service. Um
Speaker 1: you know it's it's an IRA. It's like a pub
Speaker 1: song though. Yeah, but I don't also don't like pubs.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Pubs. I think it's a
Speaker 1: place where everyone goes and drinks. Sure, I mean, just
Speaker 1: by design, let's disgust. Okay, um, all right and his
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Motorized scooters
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. They're everywhere. And someone told me at
Speaker 1: a general what are you doing after this? I go,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm in Santa Monica. I'll go down to the pier.
Speaker 1: Of course, I have to get a pier, a little pier,
Speaker 1: stroll in and they go, you have to use Bird.
Speaker 1: It's this app. It's the service you rent a motorized scooter.
Speaker 1: They're everywhere. You just hop on one and go and
Speaker 1: I go, great, that sounds wonderful. And I said, oh,
Speaker 1: but my family, I we have bad luck with wheeled vehicles,
Speaker 1: with like you know, things you would have to wear
Speaker 1: a helmet for. Fine, it's safe to do it. I go.
Speaker 1: I figured out, I download the I paid three dollars
Speaker 1: for it, and it was It was truly truly a
Speaker 1: terrifying experience. I thought I was going to die get
Speaker 1: hit by a car on Colorado Avenue. It was truly wild.
Speaker 1: I immediately my judgment got the better of me. I said,
Speaker 1: I cannot do this. My grandma, my grandmother got hit
Speaker 1: by a bus in China while she was on a bicycle.
Speaker 1: My mother got by a bus when she wasn't China.
Speaker 1: I'm not about to get hit on a Bird scooter
Speaker 1: while I'm in Santa Monica. And that's Bird motorized scooter.
Speaker 1: That's also I think. I think there's a real issue
Speaker 1: in America that we are not talking about. And that's
Speaker 1: this thing of allowing everyone to just get on a
Speaker 1: city bike. Everyone just get on a scooter like you guys,
Speaker 1: These are hard things to drive. Usually need a license,
Speaker 1: Usually need a license. Okay, wow, and now it's time
Speaker 1: for Megan Amy Megan, um, are you ready? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that no one has no
Speaker 1: I'll just do it. Everyone's really really concerned with like
Speaker 1: making sure that it's something new. It doesn't matter. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Megan amy Ms. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now. I don't think so honey. Hello Kitty,
Speaker 1: you white bit. I always said that I loved her.
Speaker 1: First of all, she doesn't have a fucking mouth like
Speaker 1: you are. Just being such a passive, aggressive bitch. You're
Speaker 1: not even willing to say what you goddamn think. Also,
Speaker 1: you are always turned in profile. I think it's like
Speaker 1: super fucked up. You will not just like look me
Speaker 1: straight in the eye, white bit. Also a Hello. Kitty's
Speaker 1: name is Kitty White. She's in third grade, and she
Speaker 1: is the size of three apples. I think it is
Speaker 1: so honestly insane that you're measuring your weight in apple.
Speaker 1: Anyone could be any amount of apples, but give me
Speaker 1: your pounds, because then I will know if you're really fat,
Speaker 1: you bitch. I also just think this is the most
Speaker 1: sucked up thing. Hello Katy has a cat named Charmie Kitty.
Speaker 1: That is her pet. That is a slave. Hello Kitty
Speaker 1: has a slave, has a cat as a pet. It
Speaker 1: looks more like a real cat than she does. And
Speaker 1: I know that people have tried to say that she's
Speaker 1: not a cat. She is and she owns another second,
Speaker 1: free charming. That's all I have to say, my god,
Speaker 1: free Charmillo Kitty. Okay, so that's one minute. So what
Speaker 1: you're saying is that Hello Kitty is a white supremacist. No, No,
Speaker 1: she's just and honestly, this, this whole thing is also
Speaker 1: fucked up because I love Hello and I'm literally wearing
Speaker 1: Hello Kitty socks right now. But I do think she
Speaker 1: needs to just like be real. My sister is going
Speaker 1: to be mortified to hear. She's gonna be relieved here
Speaker 1: you said that you actually love Hello Kitty. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm going to show you my socks. Please love Hello.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, so you're wearing a sock that's very
Speaker 1: low cut. How do they stay on your feet. I
Speaker 1: can never they don't only make Hello Kitty socks for
Speaker 1: like size eleven women. Look, the San Real universe is
Speaker 1: fucked up. I don't. It's a bit that all the
Speaker 1: creators are like, Hello Katy is not actually cat, She's
Speaker 1: a person. I think, very honestly, that's like a lost
Speaker 1: in translation, like she is a anthropomorphized catch where she
Speaker 1: is like clearly a girl cat, like she goes to school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so she's not like a pet cat. But I
Speaker 1: think it's crazy that she has a pet cat. It's
Speaker 1: like if it's like if Goofy's pet was Pluto, that's
Speaker 1: I think the closest closest analogy. But Mickey's pet is Pluto. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is like still weird because they're both those are
Speaker 1: both dogs, Like a dog is fine, yes, but a
Speaker 1: dog owning a dog is crazy. Yes, yes, that's exactly right. Absolutely. Wait, okay,
Speaker 1: so how do we think Hello Kitty came to be?
Speaker 1: Did a person fuck a cat? They haven't gotten into
Speaker 1: the origin story yet. I want to make a dark
Speaker 1: like Batman begins Christopher Nolan movie about Hello Kitty, But
Speaker 1: apparently she doesn't have a mouth because they want you
Speaker 1: to be able to put your own emotions onto her.
Speaker 1: I don't like that having her own emotions. That's what
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, don't make Hello Kitty a bla do
Speaker 1: your work for you. You're made unless you're giving me
Speaker 1: a check and last night check. You have to pay
Speaker 1: for Hello you. I think that's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: And also as a Korean American woman, that was that
Speaker 1: you were impowered about this. Japanese Beau said what I said,
Speaker 1: Um wow, what what a thrilling episode. This is very thrillingly.
Speaker 1: This is when I'm a culture. We got into the
Speaker 1: we got into past culture and we got into present culture.
Speaker 1: And we should say again, if you have not watched
Speaker 1: an Emmy for Megan, then you don't get it, and
Speaker 1: that's future culture. It's really no, it's out right now.
Speaker 1: You can watch it right to the website www dot
Speaker 1: and Emmy for Megan dot com. I watched it on video.
Speaker 1: Is that okay? That's how I prefer it to be watched.
Speaker 1: Built it by hand, yeah, built it by hand. But
Speaker 1: well there you go, and you can see um guest
Speaker 1: spots from and I'm quoting you, um you that fucking
Speaker 1: bitch Darcy Carden, who kills, which I think is amazing writing.
Speaker 1: And I also I think the best, the best line
Speaker 1: of the whole thing is you should win an Best betrayal.
Speaker 1: Thank you for froming at the mouth. Amazing you wrote that.
Speaker 1: And um, I guess because we um we do end
Speaker 1: every episode with the song. Um, I think we know
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Here we go bum bum bum
Speaker 1: bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum
Speaker 1: bum bum bum bum. So if you can't define me
Speaker 1: to the Westerns guy someone so lately, everyone deserves a
Speaker 1: chance to fly and pum fly. So at least I'm flying.
Speaker 1: To those who are round me, take a message back
Speaker 1: from me, tell them how to finding gravity. I'm fine, fine, gravity,
Speaker 1: I'm so do mess them and read loud, and no
Speaker 1: fight in all of us, no wizard that there is
Speaker 1: or has ever gone over me. Do YouTube Brandon shop
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