Speaker 1: What up everybody has everybody doing today. We appreciate everybody
Speaker 1: for coming out tonight, ce those the VIP that that
Speaker 1: paid to come in, and then everyone who just showed up.
Speaker 1: I know how much this our guests means to this city.
Speaker 1: That's why it was important for me to get him
Speaker 1: out here. I mean, I've been working the Kings for
Speaker 1: the last two years and I still see fifty five everywhere,
Speaker 1: so it's only right to bring one of the originators
Speaker 1: out here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, well again, man, thank you guys for coming
Speaker 1: all the Smoke Live show. If you gotta drink, let's
Speaker 1: hold it up real quick and get get a community.
Speaker 1: Cheers to everybody. We get this ship going, man, cheers,
Speaker 1: appreciate you man. Are your pain be champagne?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Jay, and you better be drinking water back there, boy,
Speaker 2: I'm watching you. Yeah say.
Speaker 3: Let let me say this before we start too. This
Speaker 3: is a guest on our show, but this is our brother.
Speaker 3: So I'm finna be kind of an asshole because I
Speaker 3: didn't play with I didn't get a chance to play
Speaker 3: with him, you know what I mean. I wanted to
Speaker 3: head somebody I look up to one of the best
Speaker 3: passes players. Point guards in the game. But I've sponned
Speaker 3: some time with him, but we didn't get a chance
Speaker 3: to talk much. So I got a lot of questions
Speaker 3: as a fan for my brother today, So stay tuned.
Speaker 2: I got a chance to play with him.
Speaker 1: And the only thing you don't like is you coming
Speaker 1: up to him why he's eating and try to touch
Speaker 1: his hands.
Speaker 2: Jay, don't play that all right? Man, Well, this is
Speaker 2: just another life episode of all the smoke.
Speaker 1: This is our wether. It's our second or third third
Speaker 1: live episode. We've had Magic Johnson. Who else had that?
Speaker 1: It's our second, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Magic? Oh, KG was the originator. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1: KG back at all start seventeen eighteen, maybe in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Then we have Magic Johnson around Christmas. Now we got Bubbs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well let's get this shit started.
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well he doesn't really need an introduction, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: introduce him anyway. Man, welcome to the show, Jason Williams,
Speaker 1: that's yours, bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Well, tell us what it feels like. You came in
Speaker 1: last night, did a little bit, got a chance to
Speaker 1: see the game.
Speaker 2: You were there when Arco.
Speaker 1: Was rocking three straight playoff appearances, from your rookie er
Speaker 1: to your third year.
Speaker 2: What's it like to be back in sack?
Speaker 4: Honestly, Bro, I think it was more rocking last.
Speaker 2: Night than it was.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 2: It was crazy last night, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was rocking last night, Yeah, for sure. And
Speaker 4: the wind definitely helped. Yeah, but nah, they might be
Speaker 4: a little bit better than we were too bout in
Speaker 4: the day.
Speaker 2: You think so, the team or the fans both? Really? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 1: Let's get to it, man, I mean, talk talk about
Speaker 1: that team. It was you, it was it was bloody body.
Speaker 2: Doug was there early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a young heater right you guys came
Speaker 1: in the same he came in after you, right after me. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that team and what kind of fun
Speaker 1: I'm Webb. Used to tell me stories about you hiding
Speaker 1: under the bus on the way back from the airport,
Speaker 1: like Jay was the jokester. But tell us about off
Speaker 1: the court and then obviously how that translated on the.
Speaker 4: Court ship hiding. I wouldn't hide nothing. They put me
Speaker 4: under the bus hiding.
Speaker 1: So they put you on the underneath the bus where
Speaker 1: the where where the luggage goes from from the airport
Speaker 1: to the back of preciacility.
Speaker 4: Look, it was in Boston. We get off the plane
Speaker 4: and the snow was hoised in barrels bro on the runway, right.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: Not only did I have to ride, I had to
Speaker 4: put the backs in there first and then get in
Speaker 4: there with the put yourself in there. Yeah, talk about
Speaker 4: where's j WILLI J Will's coming here straight colding the
Speaker 4: mug under there.
Speaker 2: But what was that?
Speaker 1: Obviously you guys had a lot of fun off the court,
Speaker 1: but what was that team like on the court? I
Speaker 1: mean again, you guys brought so much excitement the connection
Speaker 1: that you and Web had.
Speaker 2: But talk about that team and just in general.
Speaker 4: It was it was fun just because we did stuff
Speaker 4: like that off the court, and I think that makes
Speaker 4: you a better team when especially when the pressures, when
Speaker 4: the pressure's on, just just trusting one another and trusting
Speaker 4: the coach. The coach let us get away with a
Speaker 4: lot of stuff like that too, So so that made
Speaker 4: it a lot.
Speaker 2: Easier on everybody too.
Speaker 4: Bell West, I'm kind of nervous about these questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bail West, Virginia.
Speaker 2: One thousand people in your hometown.
Speaker 3: Everybody can probably uh.
Speaker 2: Tell me about your hometown. And the birth of white chocolate.
Speaker 4: Bro Well, you pretty much just told everybody about it, Brook,
Speaker 4: one thousand people whatever. But you know, it wasn't much
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Where I'm from, it's like the white folks live right
Speaker 4: here and in the high school, and then the black folks,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I spent most of
Speaker 4: my times on the.
Speaker 2: Back side, hence the name.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, Brod, I had fun on
Speaker 4: the other side too, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: it was it is what it is, man, And back then,
Speaker 4: when I was growing up, I thought it was the
Speaker 4: greatest thing in the world, you know, Bell West Virginia.
Speaker 4: But looking back now, bro going back there, there's not
Speaker 4: much there. It is what it is.
Speaker 3: Bro Well, a compliment I can give to you is
Speaker 3: you are the best of both worlds.
Speaker 2: Bro You are the best of both for us.
Speaker 3: And if we had to find somebody to come from
Speaker 3: both cultures that represented the right way, it would be you.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So when we talk about bags, we talk about your game.
Speaker 3: The different moves you have in your game, the passes,
Speaker 3: the handles that you know, the different aspects of different
Speaker 3: excitement you can to the game. A lot of superstars
Speaker 3: that come along that we talk about top ten, top
Speaker 3: twenty players, a lot of them didn't have bags. They
Speaker 3: were stars that had games, but they didn't have too
Speaker 3: much in the bag. We consider you wanted people that
Speaker 3: have the ultimate bag. How did that start? What did
Speaker 3: that come? What did that start at?
Speaker 4: Brou I had great teammates, Brouh. You know, I think
Speaker 4: I had a big bag, but doubtful. It's like, you know,
Speaker 4: when I reached in that bag, I had teammates that
Speaker 4: helped me, helped me, help me, made you look good
Speaker 4: for sure, bro. Like they caught a lot of bad
Speaker 4: passes and finished them. Jones too, you know, so so
Speaker 4: you know I got I got a lot of a
Speaker 4: lot of complaints about turning the ball over and shit
Speaker 4: like that. There's been a lot more of them dudes
Speaker 4: good enough to.
Speaker 1: Catch them, jont But that's the we'red that style of
Speaker 1: play for you come because I mean, there's only been
Speaker 1: you could probably name them five guys on your hand
Speaker 1: in the history of the game to really have the
Speaker 1: kind of flare and imagine nation that you have.
Speaker 2: But when did went did that start? Junior high before
Speaker 2: high school has some big hands. He catched anything. Yeah, bar,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Bro.
Speaker 4: As soon as I started playing, it was like I
Speaker 4: was so much smaller than everybody. When I used to hoop,
Speaker 4: especially on the playground, I couldn't get the shot off,
Speaker 4: so I had to had to find ways to get
Speaker 4: picked up. Bro, if you lost, you had to set out.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, if I'm losing, I'm trying to get picked
Speaker 4: up right away because I'm passing you the bay. You're
Speaker 4: getting all the shots right. And it worked so But
Speaker 4: when I worked out on my own though, I was
Speaker 4: on my own right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I think kids nowadays lose a lot of their imagination, bro,
Speaker 4: because they was a trainer all day telling them what
Speaker 4: to do for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do this in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: I'm in the gym like by myself, brou like beating presses,
Speaker 4: gunning across half court, picking the ball up. Now I'm
Speaker 4: getting trapped. I'm trying to all kind of crazy ass
Speaker 4: pivots and shit like that, just because I know I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get stuck in the game one time and I
Speaker 4: might need that crazy ass pivot. They're not teaching them
Speaker 4: crazy ass pivots nowadays, But there ain't nobody doing what
Speaker 4: I did either nowadays.
Speaker 2: Where did the style come from?
Speaker 3: The like you know the sub that they say the
Speaker 3: South has a style, the West Coast has a style,
Speaker 3: East Coast? How did you create your style of basketball?
Speaker 3: Because they ain't. No, it's not a Rucker style. You
Speaker 3: brought that style to the NBA. Everybody could do that, y'all.
Speaker 3: Quit quit sleeping on Bell. Bru's a Bell style.
Speaker 4: Bill one thousand of us, yeah, one thousand of y'alls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2: So one thousand people know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Of course they do, okay, and they all understand what
Speaker 4: I say all the time too.
Speaker 3: So speaking of that Randy Moss, you play high schoot
Speaker 3: ball with Randy Moss?
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, y'all and both of.
Speaker 3: Y'all talking like I don't understand either one of y'all sometimes,
Speaker 3: But how is it like playing with one of the
Speaker 3: best receivers to ever play in the NFL on a
Speaker 3: basketball court.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it a step further than it's not
Speaker 4: just the best receiver. To me, I played with a
Speaker 4: lot of good athletes. Bruh's the best athlete I've ever
Speaker 4: been around. I mean, when I talk about athlete, I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 4: can he hoo? Can he throw a baseball? Can he
Speaker 4: sprint faster than you can? He jump higher than you can?
Speaker 4: He throw a fishing rod.
Speaker 2: Further than you?
Speaker 4: All that, bro, skip a rock you do every he
Speaker 4: gonna beat all y'all.
Speaker 2: He's gonna beat all y'all.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's that. Brandy Moss is definitely one
Speaker 3: of the best. But how was it playing basketball with him?
Speaker 2: It was good?
Speaker 4: You know, he was player of the year in basketball
Speaker 4: our years and I was playing a year in football.
Speaker 4: One year he was player year in basketball. But it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I wasn't did you play the football quarterback? Okay, you
Speaker 4: still throwing that thing, but I wasn't trying to get
Speaker 4: hit or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: You didn't like that out of bounds? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're putting your head down on nobody too. Fragile bro,
Speaker 4: keep them past clean. Yeah. And then our coach had
Speaker 4: Randy We had a punt return called Jesse James Blitz.
Speaker 4: Ten guys got one guy back. I'm the guy back
Speaker 4: right every time, because you know I have good hand,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna catch it. Run straight to the coach to
Speaker 4: get to play for the next time. One time I
Speaker 4: try to cut the bitch up up the sideline, clip
Speaker 4: me landed on the ball, knock the air out of me.
Speaker 4: I'm laying there coaching like that. I'm like, look, bro,
Speaker 4: you got Randy Moss on your team, you got me
Speaker 4: return these mother?
Speaker 2: How cold was he? I mean, make it makes sense, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we get a chance to see highlight height
Speaker 1: of you guys in high school, and you just thrown
Speaker 1: it up there. But I don't really see much of
Speaker 1: him from a football standpoint in high school. What was
Speaker 1: he like as a receiver. I couldn't imagine what kind
Speaker 1: of cheat code that was.
Speaker 4: He was a receiver. He played, he never came off
Speaker 4: the field. He kicked off, he was played free safety.
Speaker 4: Then he would receive, and then he would kick the
Speaker 4: extra points and then and then if we had the punt.
Speaker 4: But he was punted a bitch too, Like I swear,
Speaker 4: I swear to be an all Star All NFL punter
Speaker 4: if you wanted to be right now today, Bro, today.
Speaker 2: You guys still stay in contact.
Speaker 4: A little bit, and he likes to fish. Brian, I
Speaker 4: don't get down with a fish.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't play with him, that's not you.
Speaker 4: I ain't touching no fish or no worms or not
Speaker 4: everything like that.
Speaker 1: You were drafted during the lockout in ninety nine. When
Speaker 1: you first got to the Kings, what was your initial
Speaker 1: s thought? You went from a small town college coming
Speaker 1: to Sacramento and he expectations. Uh, you know, first impression
Speaker 1: of teammates.
Speaker 4: Man, it was great for me, you know, coming from
Speaker 4: Bell with all thousands of us, it's a lot more
Speaker 4: out here, bro.
Speaker 3: Cheers, cheers to bail, all thousands of yoch Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: No, but it was straight, man. I was just I
Speaker 4: was kind of worried about see Web, whatever his situation was.
Speaker 4: I didn't know no better, you know. So I was
Speaker 4: just happy to be in the league man, hooping and
Speaker 4: and trying to get the first pickup game mm hmm
Speaker 4: with Lawrence Thunderberg drinking some sea salt Waterlawrence Thunderbirk.
Speaker 1: I just said that, Laurence Thunderberg, I remember that. Hey,
Speaker 1: but Jay used to play. I seen one. I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is every time thing, but I was
Speaker 1: still in high school eithern college, and I came up
Speaker 1: there and fuck with Web one day. But Jay, did
Speaker 1: you used to play with no socks on? You in
Speaker 1: your shoes? He had no socks and just shorts. That's it, right, bro,
Speaker 1: that's that Bell shit. Bro, that's all you needed. But no, no,
Speaker 1: he didn't. You see people with all kinds of ship today.
Speaker 1: Jay had shoes on, no socks and shorts. That's all
Speaker 1: he needed.
Speaker 4: That's probably what my feet sucked up today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but speaking of feet, he got these Florida vibes.
Speaker 2: Jordon's on stopped playing. I gotta get a picture of them.
Speaker 4: You gotta give a shout out to them.
Speaker 2: Games to five gators on right now? Stop it. We
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to talk about college. What was it?
Speaker 2: What was your experience like?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you went from uh, Florida and you
Speaker 1: moved on.
Speaker 2: But what that first Florida experience like.
Speaker 4: For you, Florida was was was dope.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: It was like, like I said, I'm from Bell, little
Speaker 4: old town and I go to Gainesville games was not
Speaker 4: much bigger than Bill, but it's a little bit bigger.
Speaker 4: And it's the first time I've been away from home,
Speaker 4: and I got a little bit of trouble down there,
Speaker 4: but I did my thing.
Speaker 2: Did what I happened. It happens. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: We all been in a little bit of trouble happened. Yeah,
Speaker 4: trouble fit in right. But everything worked out.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: It was the best thing. I wouldn't change nothing, Bro.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: So you get to the Kings, you guys go into
Speaker 1: the three straight years, you make the playoffs your first
Speaker 1: three years? What was it like kind of getting getting
Speaker 1: your footing in the NBA?
Speaker 4: I think I think it was a blessing in the
Speaker 4: skies that my first year with that lockout yere so
Speaker 4: we got only played fifty games and we were played
Speaker 4: back to back to back. We didn't have to come
Speaker 4: east but like maybe one time. So I think that
Speaker 4: was cool getting over with quick. I didn't really hit
Speaker 4: that rookie wall like all of us do.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: But again, my teammates were great, my coaching staff was great,
Speaker 4: and we really didn't have a backup point guard one
Speaker 4: of my rookie years, so I really could do what
Speaker 4: I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what was no, I need it? I'm good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What was it like playing? Uh?
Speaker 4: Working for adamman Adaman was great. Uh. The first game
Speaker 4: we played in the Alamo dunbe. I won't forget it.
Speaker 4: He told me before we came out of uh Uh
Speaker 4: for the game. He said, if you come down and
Speaker 4: throw behind the back pass and it goes out of bounds,
Speaker 4: he said, don't worry about it. Next time, try it
Speaker 4: with your left hand. So I'm thinking I'm gonna give
Speaker 4: coach Adiman all this bullshit that I received on some
Speaker 4: of these turnovers right because he gave me the green light.
Speaker 4: He gave you the okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: You always want to coach like that though, to ged Green.
Speaker 4: For sure, Yeah I had a green arm. I was
Speaker 4: gonna do it anyway on my weather.
Speaker 2: Coach. The motherfucker said, ton't care what color is light was.
Speaker 4: You don't have to set me down.
Speaker 2: That's all Kobe Bryant, you're one and two for you.
Speaker 3: Y'all lose to the Lakers two years in a row,
Speaker 3: and that's when they three Pete, what was being like killer?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, one of the best to ever
Speaker 2: do it. You know, it's just.
Speaker 4: You know, you know how it goes game plan for folks.
Speaker 4: You know, we game game plan for him, but the
Speaker 4: game plan for him is like, why we don't have
Speaker 4: to change every every possession because he's gonna figure it out,
Speaker 4: ain't gonna get it done. And and teams weren't getting
Speaker 4: through Shock and Kobe Bro when they wanted to play
Speaker 4: its just and they had great role players, they had
Speaker 4: a great coach and them two.
Speaker 3: They tell you to win your matchup. Though, you know
Speaker 3: when we got you gotta win your match up. I
Speaker 3: know you was looking your chips, looking at Derek fishing
Speaker 3: and uh.
Speaker 2: Harping all them. I know you feel like, man, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have a great series.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, honestly, honestly, Bro, I never really looked
Speaker 4: at it like that. You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 4: just trying to get in the paint and get the
Speaker 4: ball out to these shooters.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: But but they they had a better chance pissing in
Speaker 4: a hot sauce bottle.
Speaker 1: He said, they had a better chance of pissing in
Speaker 1: a hot sauce bottle. You know that crystal hole is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they piss it all over that bottle anything, Hey, but.
Speaker 4: They came back down and throw it to Shock or
Speaker 4: give it the bean and they beat us.
Speaker 2: Though, Okay, we talked about Kobe. I mean what it was.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because you see people that obviously talk about
Speaker 1: the game now and Shaq's been so removed from the game,
Speaker 1: but he was in his prime when you guys are,
Speaker 1: what was Shaq like? Because obviously Kobe was incredible, but
Speaker 1: Shaq was a big, agile motherfucker who was stronger than
Speaker 1: the ox.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: Y'all saw how Scot Paul used to have his hair
Speaker 4: and ship like I had that man going crazy.
Speaker 2: Had to guard that dude, right like.
Speaker 4: I think Shack is the most dominant dude to ever
Speaker 4: play the game. He changed the rules, Bro, so facts
Speaker 4: another game plan. So what you gonna do, Bro, double team?
Speaker 4: For what I'm saying, so, and even if they do
Speaker 4: call charge, you ain't trying to go down there and
Speaker 4: double team because you don't want none of none of this.
Speaker 4: It ain't worth it.
Speaker 2: A concussion ain't worth us.
Speaker 4: It ain't worth it. I was saying about Brad Miller
Speaker 4: last night. I told my agent, I said, he's so
Speaker 4: lucky that Jack missed him when he played for he
Speaker 4: wouldn't be there today and.
Speaker 2: He just happened to duck. He didn't even know he
Speaker 2: was coming.
Speaker 4: And had no clue.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't know, We wouldn't even know Brad Miller. If
Speaker 1: that was the case, he wouldn't it should be down here.
Speaker 2: But that is true. That is true. That's true. We
Speaker 2: let it. We figured that out.
Speaker 3: So in the early two thousands, as you know, and
Speaker 3: as we know, and as I don't know, everybody liked
Speaker 3: to smoke a little bit of track, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, indulge a little bit.
Speaker 2: But now the.
Speaker 3: Players, thanks to us and a couple of players, they
Speaker 3: can indulge for free.
Speaker 2: Now, what if when we played, we.
Speaker 3: Could just leave the game after hard for a game,
Speaker 3: blow one and relax and be ready, you know, to
Speaker 3: play for the next game.
Speaker 2: What if we could have done that?
Speaker 4: Don't get it twisted. You wasn't the only one doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, y'all might have been worse than me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I ain't ever seen nobody
Speaker 4: do it, so I don't know he was. Now I
Speaker 4: think Adam Silver got it right though he knows what
Speaker 4: time it is? Man, what's wrong with smoking? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying? It is what it is. It's better
Speaker 4: than y'all drinking.
Speaker 2: Bro there you go tell us Jack, it's better than
Speaker 2: pills too.
Speaker 3: It's better than all the pills they try to shove
Speaker 3: players after games to recover, right, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, shoot, I mean, do you, bro, don't worry about
Speaker 4: what's going over here.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I golf of Jay in Orlando.
Speaker 1: It's a lie, say no lie.
Speaker 2: Eighteen holes.
Speaker 1: He probably smoked like nine little blunts and still was
Speaker 1: right at par, if not under. It was unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Like every other hole he had a new one, does
Speaker 1: he do it? But he was still on point, chipping,
Speaker 1: putt and driving. I was impressed because I used to
Speaker 1: smoke a lot of weed, and I'm just like, there's
Speaker 1: no way I could play golf this high.
Speaker 2: But it didn't even do nothing to him.
Speaker 4: Bell was so far ahead of call.
Speaker 2: Shout out Bell. All comes down to baby shot. That's
Speaker 2: where it came from.
Speaker 3: Hey, but I think you should have smoked, because golf
Speaker 3: is a hard sport. I think golf is luck to me, man.
Speaker 3: I think if you get high in though, if you
Speaker 3: hit the ball right, just hoping land where it's supposed
Speaker 3: to leave. Bro, I feel you, but it ain't luck.
Speaker 2: Some of some of you get the lucky bounces. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: So what about the win and all that y'all can
Speaker 2: predict that. You gotta play it. You gotta play the win.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two, Traded to the Memphis Grizzlies for
Speaker 1: Mike Baby. What was that experience like? Kind of learning
Speaker 1: the business of basketball?
Speaker 4: It sucked that first, you know, because I didn't really
Speaker 4: want to leave Sacramento. But but shout out to Bibby
Speaker 4: and the Kings. They got better when I got rid
Speaker 4: of me as a team, bro, in my eyes what
Speaker 4: I know about basketball, that team was better when they
Speaker 4: got rid of me. They had a better chance of
Speaker 4: beating the Lakers with Bibby just the way.
Speaker 3: Only real one we say that though most guys too
Speaker 3: much got too much pride to give another get props
Speaker 3: to another point guard coming after them, That says a
Speaker 3: lot about.
Speaker 2: You, bro.
Speaker 4: I'm just keep it real, bro, it is what it is,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But getting to the Grizzlies,
Speaker 4: it was I didn't think I could leave a better
Speaker 4: group here. But the teammates there went up left.
Speaker 2: Had a team too.
Speaker 3: You have a young pal who from a team and
Speaker 3: nobody smoked, but you to everybody smoking in Memphis.
Speaker 1: No hold, no, but that secondment there was there was
Speaker 1: some people in the doge not pubbliclyot them. No, you
Speaker 1: can't do it, No one could do it. That was
Speaker 1: doing pub talking about the ones we know who was
Speaker 1: doing it? You okay, go to Memphis. Everybody was in Memphis.
Speaker 2: Who's on that who's on that team? Know? Oh?
Speaker 4: Man? My first year there, Lorenz and right rescue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh. One of the best screen setters I ever played
Speaker 4: with bro picking pop catch anything to couldn't jump over
Speaker 4: a nickel, but he gonna catch that. We had Swift
Speaker 4: over the building, God over the building.
Speaker 2: What was it like? Throwing lives at him? He didn't
Speaker 2: see him do some incredible ship bro.
Speaker 4: I used to just try to throw it over the back,
Speaker 4: just trying to throw at to see if he can
Speaker 4: get He got them all got.
Speaker 1: Google stro Male Swift though, if you don't know who
Speaker 1: he is when we leave, he was l s u Yes.
Speaker 2: On that team.
Speaker 4: I think Bondsy came in a year later show Yeah
Speaker 4: you can tell by his lips later, Man.
Speaker 2: Did you have was power yet there? Yeh?
Speaker 4: I came like like maybe the second year I was there.
Speaker 2: How cold was he his? He was real cold?
Speaker 4: From then he didn't really get to run like he
Speaker 4: should have QUB. I was Sydney low at first.
Speaker 1: How was when you finally got a chair to the
Speaker 1: you know, the great Hubie Brown? Uh so much basketball
Speaker 1: now that he's forgotten more basketball than we'll ever know.
Speaker 1: What was it like getting a chance to learn and
Speaker 1: play for him?
Speaker 4: Honestly?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 4: When when he got the job, I thought, oh damn,
Speaker 4: I'm in some trouble.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, just because the way he talked about me
Speaker 4: when I got drafted, like this guy's hot garbage.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, Bro, you don't even know me, Bro,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So, but when when he
Speaker 4: did get the job, we had to talk, Bros. I
Speaker 4: played for a lot of great coaches, Bro, but from
Speaker 4: top to bottom, Hube Brown was like the best. Like
Speaker 4: like maybe not, he wasn't the best x's and o's
Speaker 4: or community. He did communicate well, he just he let
Speaker 4: players be players, you know what I'm saying, and like
Speaker 4: you know them little things we have to do sometimes
Speaker 4: after practice, go mess with the season take holders and
Speaker 4: things like that. You know, I love you. He couldn't
Speaker 4: see out of one I couldn't here, bro, So it's
Speaker 4: a little all offt balance when you talk to him,
Speaker 4: you have to be like right here, bro, like.
Speaker 2: Right here, like old.
Speaker 1: No, he said he couldn't see out of this iron here,
Speaker 1: out of this ear, so you had to like you
Speaker 1: have to you have to have to top your head
Speaker 1: and get right to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But but he wouldn't make us do nothing stuff
Speaker 4: like that, you know, the organization making Yeah, y'all gotta
Speaker 4: go do this for two hours, like oh.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, my guys need to go on. They need
Speaker 2: to take care of their family, they need to pay
Speaker 2: their bills. You didn't have to go do any of
Speaker 2: the NBA cares, bro.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't have any He wasn't having shut out huge, huge,
Speaker 4: because that ship is the worst.
Speaker 2: That would be a cush up of wiz in the studio.
Speaker 3: The only time we really cared about it, I'm gonnakeep
Speaker 3: it real with you. I'll pint out some inside game.
Speaker 3: The only time we cared about doing the NBA care
Speaker 3: stuffhen was going to the hospital and talk to kids
Speaker 3: that was sick or underprivileged.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, People that was going through
Speaker 2: stuff that they couldn't control. All this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in hospitals, we cared about that, but all the
Speaker 3: other ship grown motherfuckers who were healthy, got jobs and ship.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spend the time with you. Spend
Speaker 2: the time with these kids. That that's that's struggling, right.
Speaker 3: Let's give them our time instead of people who walk
Speaker 3: around have got more money than me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they put all them balls and in the
Speaker 4: locker room outside in the whole gym, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and like that, and they selling it.
Speaker 2: They giving half of them away and selling the other ones.
Speaker 1: He's fifty five jerseys, brother, Okay, how many of them
Speaker 1: did you signing your day?
Speaker 4: I don know, bro, Just give me a nickel for
Speaker 4: each one, Broo, we'd all be straight.
Speaker 2: That we all be straight?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Any Jerry West stories obviously the West West Virginia. He
Speaker 1: was a GM at the time of the Memphis Go ahead.
Speaker 1: You had a beer too, because that was Jerry Russ
Speaker 1: just said. Jerry West said, Russ, we broken drinking. So
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good show. Let's go. I think,
Speaker 1: okay with Jerry West because j Jerry Russ Jay shook
Speaker 1: his head like he knew what I was talking about,
Speaker 1: So it must it might be you.
Speaker 4: I knew what its Listen, I'm from baill Bro. I
Speaker 4: can understand all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything comes down to where you're from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jerry West now the logo, I mean he's he
Speaker 4: grew up across the river from Bell Bro East Bank,
Speaker 4: West Virginia. Our high school. Yeah, look, look, Jerry West
Speaker 4: grew up across the river from Bell That's right, Okay,
Speaker 4: our high schools consolidated about I don't know about thirty
Speaker 4: years ago, right, okay, But a good story about Jerry West.
Speaker 4: You know, you know me, You played with me, you
Speaker 4: know what time it is in the locker room and
Speaker 4: stuff with No, well, yeah you're not. Yeah, so I
Speaker 4: get fined or something like, I don't know what for what,
Speaker 4: But Jerry West gonna march his little ass done.
Speaker 2: In my locker way over there. He gotta walk all the.
Speaker 4: Way across right hand me to hand me, to hand
Speaker 4: me the lu I just th the bitch man. I
Speaker 4: don't care nothing about that.
Speaker 2: Fine, keep strong to pos. He ain't like that at all, Bro.
Speaker 4: So then I got suspended like five games that find
Speaker 4: her from that? Yeah, that that one hurts.
Speaker 2: So you what was the fine for originally? That you
Speaker 2: didn't give? Really for good? A fuck about he was
Speaker 2: probably like twenty twenty five. What it was, brother? It was?
Speaker 4: It was when I said, uh, that we suck.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought.
Speaker 4: Everybody thinks the Hawks were the worst team. No, we're
Speaker 4: the worst team, bro.
Speaker 1: So he fined you for that too, well, he fined.
Speaker 4: Me for He did find me for it. When he
Speaker 4: said that he did he did find me was so
Speaker 4: But but what he was mad at he said he
Speaker 4: wanted me to apologize to the team. I was like,
Speaker 4: he wanted me to apologize to the team, him and
Speaker 4: maybe Dick versays the general man or someone. I said, cool,
Speaker 4: let's get it. Let's go in here and do it.
Speaker 2: We're going there.
Speaker 4: I'm like, look, y'all, Jerry and Dick, they want me
Speaker 4: to apologize, but but I don't really think I owe
Speaker 4: y'all an apology. And I didn't say nothing about them.
Speaker 4: I said that we suck, not them. So if y'all
Speaker 4: think I owe y'allw an apology, y'all.
Speaker 2: Hollered me out of this meeting. We're good. Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2: We're good.
Speaker 4: They didn't like that.
Speaker 2: That's what that was your apology and you got suspended
Speaker 2: from that. Yeah, that hurt games.
Speaker 3: I heard so so the higher ups in the office,
Speaker 3: we're all the organization when we win, in when we losing,
Speaker 3: this us against them.
Speaker 4: Well, at that particular time, yeah right, yeah, Memphis took
Speaker 4: care of me.
Speaker 2: Though I give a shout out to Memphis, though I remember.
Speaker 1: I want to tell this story because I think I
Speaker 1: told it one time. I think it was either Dylan's
Speaker 1: podcast or JJ Regors podcast, and yelling was in the
Speaker 1: comments and you stamped it. So we're Orlando together getting
Speaker 1: ready for the playoffs, and we had a little fat
Speaker 1: coach named stan van Gundy. They used to the penguin
Speaker 1: when he got too serious, like the white foam will
Speaker 1: come in the corner of his mouth and to make
Speaker 1: you want to wipe your own ship, like I got
Speaker 1: to make sure my ship is fresh.
Speaker 4: Look are we wrong for not telling him that it's there?
Speaker 2: Though? I think I think we used to every time though.
Speaker 1: Yeh man, he would be talking sometimes like that, you
Speaker 1: just the people the ship is so hot that it
Speaker 1: just phonms.
Speaker 2: It's not spit.
Speaker 4: It's like during toimeouse. During timeouse, he'd be drawing on
Speaker 4: the war mother be like, oh that shit ain't coming
Speaker 4: this way.
Speaker 1: That should be bouncing off the board into your face.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so we're in practice, getting close to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We had a really good team and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it.
Speaker 2: Was it was. How did it start? Do you remember
Speaker 2: how it started?
Speaker 4: You talking about when I got kicked out of practice.
Speaker 1: When you threw the ball behind your back across the
Speaker 1: court and hit him and his belly.
Speaker 2: Tell that story. How did that? I don't remember how
Speaker 2: it started.
Speaker 4: I got you, That's why you brought me out here.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why. That's why it happened.
Speaker 4: So we watched the whole film session like an hour
Speaker 4: before practice about about transition being organized in transition, right.
Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all understand that talk, but I
Speaker 4: ain't got time to tell y'all about that.
Speaker 2: So, so he was talking about that.
Speaker 4: And what he wanted the guards to do is get
Speaker 4: everybody organized vocally right coming down the court. So I
Speaker 4: told Matt Matt the other team scoring. Matt took it
Speaker 4: out just aflickted it to me and I told him
Speaker 4: to come and drag me. That means said a high
Speaker 4: pick and roll. Just told him like, come drag me
Speaker 4: just like that. Right, So we go down there and
Speaker 4: we do it. He's staying like, ah, no, you gotta stop. No, no,
Speaker 4: what are you doing. I'm like, look, I told him
Speaker 4: to come drag me. He was like, but but but
Speaker 4: you didn't. You didn't inform the whole team or some
Speaker 4: shit like that. It's like, you know what, bro I quit,
Speaker 4: slung the ball at him and.
Speaker 2: Hold on. Jay Will was on the other side. Don't
Speaker 2: let it seem like there.
Speaker 1: Was a close jay Will was on the far side
Speaker 1: of the court and Stan was on the other side,
Speaker 1: and he threw this ball so fast and so hard
Speaker 1: behind his back and it hit him in his stomach
Speaker 1: and knocked the way But staying with one of them
Speaker 1: serious coach, So we didn't.
Speaker 2: Laugh at ship. But motherfucker's having a hard time holding
Speaker 2: like I tried to.
Speaker 1: Hold then I think a snot booger came out, like
Speaker 1: you try to hold that ship with Jack. That ship
Speaker 1: was unbelievable job, the.
Speaker 4: Worst the worst part about it, And when I look
Speaker 4: back on it, I'm glad I did it kind of
Speaker 4: But the worst part is there was a high school
Speaker 4: team watching us practice and stands Daddy was watching.
Speaker 3: Two thousand and five be traded to Miami with Antoine
Speaker 3: Walker and James Post.
Speaker 2: What was that like? Going to Miami? It was great, man,
Speaker 2: just got at home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to go play with Shaq and d Wade,
Speaker 4: you know, like my best teams that I played on
Speaker 4: Talent while I was in Sacramento up to that point.
Speaker 4: And honestly, I'm not so sure that we really thought
Speaker 4: we could win a championship in those days, like, like, seriously,
Speaker 4: win a championship, like what it really takes, you know
Speaker 4: back now looking back, what it really takes.
Speaker 2: There's no way.
Speaker 4: I don't think we could have won a chance because
Speaker 4: we won getting through being in shock one. But when
Speaker 4: I got to when I got to Miami, it was
Speaker 4: just different, you know, because it was like championship or
Speaker 4: bus you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It was nothing else. What year was that for you?
Speaker 2: That was?
Speaker 4: I got traded in five?
Speaker 2: No, what year in your career was that for you?
Speaker 2: I got drafted in ninety eight. But I ain't going
Speaker 2: no maths seven years neither got me. Yeah, I got
Speaker 2: to calculate on my phone. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But so we got there and and like I said,
Speaker 4: that's all it was about. But stand was our coach
Speaker 4: for like two weeks bro. That was that was earlier, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: two weeks and I think I think pat Riley knew
Speaker 4: what time it was. He saw what he had. He
Speaker 4: was like, come on, let me hold that, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and may so Stack came to stand or pat
Speaker 1: Riley came down from the front office to coacho.
Speaker 2: That's right. Talk about that team in that season.
Speaker 4: It was good man. It was it was, it was,
Speaker 4: it was, it was. It was a circus bro like
Speaker 4: bro everywhere we went.
Speaker 2: It was young d Wade Shock's second year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dudes, you know, I don't I don't really
Speaker 4: get down like that, like you know, go out.
Speaker 2: On the clubs and things like, that's not you. Nah.
Speaker 2: But then the way they got you out there.
Speaker 4: No, okay, no, no, most no, I was no one, no,
Speaker 4: no one was knowing.
Speaker 2: You know. Everybody was in their own lane. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: They didn't get down, they ain't drinking, they ain't blow
Speaker 4: it down nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah I knew of anyway. Yeah, sad I didn't
Speaker 2: go there.
Speaker 4: But they were still cool. We had a good time.
Speaker 4: It was fun when the championship was great too. Uh.
Speaker 3: The heat culture one thing I knew about them. They
Speaker 3: practiced hard. They taped for practice and all that, and
Speaker 3: I almost got traded there. I wasn't big enough to
Speaker 3: control to say, well, I don't, you can't trade me.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't so, but I'm glad they didn't. How did
Speaker 3: you feel being in that culture, coming from Sacramento where
Speaker 3: everything was play a chill to go out there where
Speaker 3: it was drill sergeant.
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, bro don't, I don't do none
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 2: So it was straight from me.
Speaker 4: And honestly you'd have been straight too, broh, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: would have been straight.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is. You can do
Speaker 2: what you want to do.
Speaker 4: But when it comes two o'clock, three o'clock, time to
Speaker 4: get on the floor. If you can do what you do,
Speaker 4: I mean, come on over here. At GP, we had Posey,
Speaker 4: we had we had these dudes. One time Mount pat
Speaker 4: Rally were in a time. Mount pat Rally was like,
Speaker 4: we're down by five or six something like that.
Speaker 2: Pat Rally's you know, like Ford.
Speaker 4: The chair in the huddles, like sets down, finished all
Speaker 4: the planes. He says, fuck, it smells like a goddamn
Speaker 4: brewery in here. Ship got up and went to the
Speaker 4: locker room and left us for the last fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Bro then coaches the rest of the time. Did y'all win? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we won.
Speaker 1: We got a story like that. We got a Miami
Speaker 1: story just like that. We just didn't we weren't there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, which you mean we wasn't there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We didn't live in Miami, so we
Speaker 1: had to enjoy that night Miami night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and our coach told us the same thing when
Speaker 2: he smelled us.
Speaker 3: But he just told us to get back on the
Speaker 3: bus and make sure we come back to the game tonight.
Speaker 3: We showed up. We all got back to the Hotel
Speaker 3: seven eight. Shoot around was at nine.
Speaker 1: With the same Miami with the same clothes we had
Speaker 1: on the night before from the Orlando playing game and
Speaker 1: plane trip.
Speaker 2: We just we saw this, We saw the sun come up.
Speaker 3: We're going to practice the next day in the same
Speaker 3: clothes we wore to the Orlando game the night before.
Speaker 3: We were in the club with right we show up
Speaker 3: to shoot around. Coach like, bring it in to get
Speaker 3: us as the game plan. He smells all of us.
Speaker 1: First of all, normally like during shoot around, you some
Speaker 1: people come dressed, some people get dressed right over everybody's nod.
Speaker 1: Some motherfucker's asleep. We're all everyone just has their clothes
Speaker 1: on for the night before, Like normally at least one
Speaker 1: person shooting.
Speaker 2: Not one person was on the floor shooting.
Speaker 3: Nobody was shooting. Don Nelson cost everybody in. He's like, so, guys,
Speaker 3: we're gonna you know what, Everybody back on the bus
Speaker 3: and we better win by thirty and best believe we
Speaker 3: all were hungover, and we beat the ship out of
Speaker 3: Miami by thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: On and off the court, hard talk to us about
Speaker 1: how good Dwayne Wade was.
Speaker 4: I don't even know where to start, bro. Like it's like,
Speaker 4: I think he's like the third best two guard ever.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: So MJ Kobe d Wade. Yeah, Yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: chance to know in post career. But I mean, he
Speaker 1: was just a motherfucker. D Wade was the one dude.
Speaker 1: Remember you're always supposed to push him to the screen,
Speaker 1: but he would drink the stream and go based on.
Speaker 4: Every time and then he can get through cracks and
Speaker 4: crevices like no other. Bro Strong. He swept more than
Speaker 4: any human I ever met. In my swept Bro. He
Speaker 4: changed he changed jersey every third time out.
Speaker 2: Man, every third just too much. Yeah, great, dude, great
Speaker 2: dude Booby. I call him Booby from Uh what's the movie?
Speaker 2: Uh Friday Night, Friday Night Lights.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to win, you better put Booby back in.
Speaker 2: Let Booby spind coach. Oh ship.
Speaker 1: I know you weren't really someone that stepped out, but
Speaker 1: did you ever get a chance to go to any
Speaker 1: of those Midsummer grew or Summer Grooves.
Speaker 2: I went to one after my rookie year. Okay, talk
Speaker 2: to us.
Speaker 4: It was straight, you know, I didn't I didn't really
Speaker 4: know what to expect. I'm a shy, do bro. I
Speaker 4: mean it might not seem like it, but but I
Speaker 4: mean I am until you get to sit on the
Speaker 4: porch with me or something like that. Before I am
Speaker 4: shy and doing something like that. Was the first time
Speaker 4: I ever played in like a aw star our game,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it was like and.
Speaker 4: Being around all these dudes that I was around, and
Speaker 4: I grew up watching him like wow, like, bro, I
Speaker 4: can actually touch these dudes or give them that or whatever.
Speaker 4: But I was just I was more in all that
Speaker 4: than hooping.
Speaker 1: I feel it, like auld dig it twenty ten is
Speaker 1: when you and I crossed paths on the same team
Speaker 1: for the Penguin with Stan.
Speaker 2: That was a talented team.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Dwight Howard gets enough respect
Speaker 1: talk about how good healthy young Dwight Howard was when
Speaker 1: we had him in Orlandoo, yeah, y'all swept the shit
Speaker 1: out of us.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we beat the shit out of y'all. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you brouh.
Speaker 4: There's not too many guys that I've seen play better
Speaker 4: than Dwight Howard. What he brought to the table, like
Speaker 4: what he did, man is like, you're not going to
Speaker 4: see another Dwight Howard. No, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because obviously when he came to the Lakers,
Speaker 1: he had just had back surgery and he came back
Speaker 1: from back surgery. He came back from like a year
Speaker 1: recovery in like four five months, and fuck to me.
Speaker 1: And I was telling him along the way, like, bro,
Speaker 1: don't come out here and play. It's like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: with cold. I need to be out here and playing, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: let your back here. But Orlando, Dwight Howard, I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything like him.
Speaker 2: Me neither.
Speaker 4: Like and then Orlando teams that we played that might
Speaker 4: have been the best team from top to bottom that
Speaker 4: I've ever.
Speaker 2: We were deep.
Speaker 1: We were We were too deep in every single position
Speaker 1: we were.
Speaker 2: Can I speak on it? Sure? Yeah.
Speaker 3: We played them in the first round of the playoffs, right,
Speaker 3: Jamie Nelson, Matt j Will, Vince Carter, uh White, Howard,
Speaker 3: the whole nine. Right, So Jamia Nelson, Lewis Jamiro Nelson
Speaker 3: had eighteen points in the first quarter of the first.
Speaker 2: Three games in the playoffs, and we get swept. Bro.
Speaker 4: I mean, God's blessed, God bless Raymond Felton. Bro.
Speaker 2: But you go look at he was out the league
Speaker 2: a year or two after that.
Speaker 4: Jamier Nelson against Raymond Felton, it was it was I
Speaker 4: think we swept the Hawks right after that, and then
Speaker 4: he might have got swept by the Celtics.
Speaker 1: We almost because do you remember, though, why remember going
Speaker 1: into Stan got scared? Man, we beat the Celtics. This
Speaker 1: is so, this is the year twenty ten that the
Speaker 1: Celtics played the Lakers again, and the Celtics had beat
Speaker 1: the Lakers in eight Kobe gets his revenge beats Orlanda.
Speaker 1: But we're supposed to play the Lakers because that's the
Speaker 1: year I ball fake and Coden We were about to
Speaker 1: fight in that game, and we were supposed to beat
Speaker 1: So we're we're we're making NBA history.
Speaker 2: Eight and no.
Speaker 1: In the playoffs beat them by like twenty two. Again
Speaker 1: we discuss that already beat the Hawks the next round
Speaker 1: by like twenty five or twenty six a game. So
Speaker 1: we're eight to no. Nobody is fucking with us. We
Speaker 1: think we're about to get a championship. We're going to
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. This is KG, this is that team.
Speaker 1: Ray allen them boys, But we had beat them perk perk.
Speaker 4: We had beat hurt guarded Dwight higher one on one.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, very well, they have to double them, so
Speaker 1: we're up. So we had beat them two out of
Speaker 1: three times this season. We go into that that uh,
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals and stands like, you know, we've
Speaker 1: we've done well and we're the number one offensive team
Speaker 1: across the board. We've done well, but we need to
Speaker 1: change it up because this is.
Speaker 2: A really good team.
Speaker 1: Remember he like changed our whole offensive set and they
Speaker 1: beat us the first three games.
Speaker 2: We came back in one, two, and then we changed it.
Speaker 2: Stand the Penguin. Yeah, no, it was just disappointed because
Speaker 2: that was a really we had a really good team.
Speaker 4: We did. Shout out to the Penguin. He was a
Speaker 4: hell of a coach.
Speaker 2: Great team. Hell hes a great coach. Great, should have
Speaker 2: won a championship. Great great excell.
Speaker 4: Big Perk shut that ship down, bro Semester offense. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Perk guarded Dwight one on. Everyone else had to do
Speaker 4: double Dwight.
Speaker 2: Charlo Lewis.
Speaker 4: Never Vince Carter to Vince Carter, Yeah, that was Vince Carter.
Speaker 4: The greatest dunker ever ever. There will never be another
Speaker 4: one better.
Speaker 2: Florida boy.
Speaker 4: That's right, playing the bar from bell playing the trombone. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he was. He was that now I think he can.
Speaker 4: I think he could dunk with a with a tuba
Speaker 4: around his name.
Speaker 2: You're with the tuba.
Speaker 1: But he used to just do ship like pull up
Speaker 1: left handed from half court like it was nothing.
Speaker 4: I never seen anybody do. I've never seen it. He
Speaker 4: gets set on the baseline down there at the other
Speaker 4: end of the court on his ass and throw the
Speaker 4: basketball and hit the backboard as many times.
Speaker 3: As not a harmonica, not a saxophone, but shiny gold
Speaker 3: one too.
Speaker 1: So you retire in twenty eleven, twelve seasons when you
Speaker 1: look back now, because we were talking off air, You're
Speaker 1: still traveling the world. You're doing fantasy camps, You're going
Speaker 1: to the other countries. You come back here. You know,
Speaker 1: you did the pregame show yesterday and you said you
Speaker 1: look down from your balcony and saw all the fifty five.
Speaker 1: You thought the Kings assigned a new player. That's you
Speaker 1: when you look back on kind of your historical significance
Speaker 1: in this game and how much you're still love Like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean to I know you're not a
Speaker 1: person to ever talk about yourself or boast about yourself,
Speaker 1: but what does that mean to you that you really
Speaker 1: left an impression on a lot of people's minds.
Speaker 4: Man, it's crazy that this little boy from Bail, from
Speaker 4: Bell you know what I'm saying. It's shout out ball.
Speaker 4: But that is a testament to the fans. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They know what time it is. They're
Speaker 4: real too, you know. So it ain't like a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of guys. You know, y'all been trading
Speaker 4: and ship like that. You go to this team, you
Speaker 4: got a different jersey, you go to this You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I think to the day I die.
Speaker 4: When I come back here, it's gonna be fifty five bro.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. Quick hitters. First thing to
Speaker 1: come to mind. Let us know, like how quick does
Speaker 1: it gotta be?
Speaker 2: Though? He's a question you gotta worry about, all right? Yeah?
Speaker 4: How very fast? You wanted to be? Like a hiccup? Yep,
Speaker 4: quick as a hiccup. That's quick.
Speaker 2: That's quick. You plus four on the blacktop? Who you bringing?
Speaker 3: You might have to squab, you might got to dodge bullets,
Speaker 3: but you're on the blacktop. What four players you're bringing
Speaker 3: with you to win the game on a black top?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Shit, if I know I got dodge bullets, Like.
Speaker 2: It's a possibility. Always, it's a possibility.
Speaker 4: Something. I'm hoping. The white Chocolate's got me this far.
Speaker 4: They ain't gonna try to shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Now, you know you
Speaker 2: get definitely got to pass. Yeah, I think your pass
Speaker 2: is gold.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm taking some shooters now, I'm taking. I
Speaker 4: gotta take Curry. I gotta take. I ain't thinking about
Speaker 4: no defense that we're gonna y'all. Yeah, the defense don't
Speaker 4: win championship.
Speaker 2: Not on black top.
Speaker 4: Defense don't win championships, no word stack in the league
Speaker 4: you do. I don't think so it helps.
Speaker 2: You still got to score the ball though, you're.
Speaker 4: Taking five Ben Wallace, the defense, you're taking five ayes.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying, if AI is against Ben Wallace,
Speaker 3: I might take Ben Wallace.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you.
Speaker 3: Why tell me Because it's a lot of aspects in
Speaker 3: the game. It's rebounding, it's physicality, there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: You gotta get to the rim first, but you gotta
Speaker 3: be able to drive. You gotta have some touch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: No rebound drinking. Don't ask me a I not gonna miss.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be lay ups and they're gonna be rebounding.
Speaker 2: There and he's gonna cross everybody over.
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, Ben Wallace, Yeah, you gonna pay back
Speaker 4: to the question, I'm taking Curry Durant, I'm taking Lebron James.
Speaker 4: Is this past or current I'm taking I'm taking I'm
Speaker 4: taking I'm taking all current players. I'm thinking all these
Speaker 4: all these older players were great. But to me, it's
Speaker 4: just it's it's the games evolved. I think it's hard
Speaker 4: to compare these players too. They were all great in
Speaker 4: their own way, but like Oscar Roberson was one of
Speaker 4: the greatest ever craft.
Speaker 2: Ye, he can't play today. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So these guys are more talented, but they're also soft
Speaker 3: mind my bad.
Speaker 4: Well that's just all right, that's what it is. That's
Speaker 4: just how the league is though. I think you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's just how the league is trending.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I would never take a night off. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to.
Speaker 2: Hoop every day. Right.
Speaker 3: You come from a different cloth. I'm from Bill. They
Speaker 3: don't produce. They don't produce your cloth no more. They
Speaker 3: stopped making that when you left.
Speaker 2: Just him and ran.
Speaker 4: Duh. I got kde I got Steph, I got Lebron
Speaker 4: and I'm going Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1: Oh the ticket, the ticket Church. Where did the name
Speaker 1: white Chocolate come from?
Speaker 4: I think that came from some lady in the PR
Speaker 4: department here with the King's organization. Oh she started it, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think. And I don't really know the answer. That's
Speaker 4: what I've been telling everybody since you've been asking. Okay,
Speaker 4: so I don't shout out the lady in the front office.
Speaker 4: Yeah whatever her name is, y. I don't remember her
Speaker 4: name anyway, but okay, but that's what it is.
Speaker 1: But it's stuck. I were you with the name though
Speaker 1: when you first got it. I didn't care, Bro, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't care.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there were some people in bail that probably
Speaker 4: didn't like it, but that's what it is.
Speaker 2: So when you heard it, what you think of? So?
Speaker 1: So what's side? So the people in bell who didn't
Speaker 1: like it? What side of the school? Were they on
Speaker 1: the left or right side?
Speaker 4: They was over there on the right right.
Speaker 2: Okay, what did you think though?
Speaker 3: Like when when they said it called you white chocolate?
Speaker 3: What's the definition you got from it?
Speaker 4: Bro? I didn't. I didn't really care. Because once you
Speaker 4: get on the on the court, bro, black white, purple,
Speaker 4: ping it on.
Speaker 2: If you can hoop, you can hoop. But you gotta
Speaker 2: love that the niggas loved you though.
Speaker 3: A hoop as a hooper they keep it rial though.
Speaker 3: As a HOOPO. When the black spuck with you, that's
Speaker 3: it's tough for white ud.
Speaker 2: You gotta know that's an extra it is you can
Speaker 2: when the niggas fuck with you do.
Speaker 4: You know, to be honest with you, bru Brughs recognized
Speaker 4: me more than white folks out in the community, for sure.
Speaker 2: I know I have. I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I take pride in saying I know you not.
Speaker 3: You know, not only because I'm a fan, because what
Speaker 3: you did for the game. Bro. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You brought up to the game. You inspired a lot
Speaker 3: of people your color and my color. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So you got to understand, like one thing
Speaker 3: about our show, we're here to give you your flowers.
Speaker 3: We have hands as well.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know what if you've done, You've done a lot
Speaker 3: for both cultures, both cultures, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Top five handles in the history of the NBA, and
Speaker 1: you better be one of them.
Speaker 4: Any specific order.
Speaker 2: No, I'll just throw them out there. I'll see why
Speaker 2: we the dope is show Bro, Kyrie.
Speaker 4: The best case of Me, Kyrie, Jamal Crawford, Oh, I
Speaker 4: played with jam Chris Paul Yes, uh m.
Speaker 2: Jason Williams, Yeah, you gotta throw bubs in there.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: So many people pulled out and had the confidence to
Speaker 3: pull out what you pulled out in the game.
Speaker 2: Dog. See.
Speaker 4: I think that's the difference in like me and a
Speaker 4: lot of these kids now, they ain't got the.
Speaker 2: Balls, yeah just to try it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But LaMelo Ball, he's got the balls to try it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But but he just right now, he didn't practice everything.
Speaker 4: He does everything you seen me do, Bro, I didn't
Speaker 4: practice that Joont like thousands of times. So I knew,
Speaker 4: I knew I could do it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But LaMelo Ball, these guys are so good. Maybe they
Speaker 4: ain't got a practice like that. I had to practice, Bro.
Speaker 2: I mean just what time it was? So you gave
Speaker 2: us three?
Speaker 4: Ah Man, I only gave you three, Chris.
Speaker 2: Paul, Yep, that was the third one you gave us.
Speaker 4: I'm not putting myself in there, Bro, I'm just not
Speaker 4: to me to me a easy.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't put Allen Iverson in there with the handle joints.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He was just he was just so fast and his
Speaker 4: first step he didn't really need nothing but that crossover.
Speaker 4: So you know, when I when I got caught up,
Speaker 4: when a I I just try to back up and
Speaker 4: just pray he shot the vision missed it. But if
Speaker 4: he made it.
Speaker 3: You want me to do facts facts.
Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas.
Speaker 4: That's a good one too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's four. One more spot for you. That last spot.
Speaker 2: Will It ain't the last spot.
Speaker 4: It ain't no Jay Will.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it, Jay Will. Next question and next question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll go with that. This is a good question right
Speaker 2: here though.
Speaker 3: If anyone did a soundtrack to your game and your life,
Speaker 3: what rapper would it be?
Speaker 4: Man, it's got to be slim shady.
Speaker 2: I am, I am. Hey, that's it's only right. It's
Speaker 2: only right. That's only right. It's only right. Bro.
Speaker 3: That makes that's that makes so much sense if you
Speaker 3: think about it.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, yeah, you're right, dag, you're right. You're right.
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right. Next question that he killed out
Speaker 2: you killed out one. No, you killed out with dogs,
Speaker 2: And that.
Speaker 4: Ain't it ain't just because I'm from Bail either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all got a few similarities. Favorite teammate over your
Speaker 1: twelve year career.
Speaker 4: That's a tough question, man, It's like, I know it
Speaker 4: sounds cliche, but I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm one of the luckiest dudes that
Speaker 4: ever play in the league because every team I went
Speaker 4: to all fifteen of us got got down.
Speaker 2: Bro. It's like that's dope. That's rare too. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know when we land in the city, we go
Speaker 4: to the hotel. You know, Dwight Howard them used to
Speaker 4: pay for us to go shopping, and Ship of Louis
Speaker 4: and all that, him and Charlotte's take turns of the one
Speaker 4: hundred million dollar boys they paying. Look, we're going shopping
Speaker 4: at fifteen minutes. Whoever want to go, go get whatever
Speaker 4: you want. I felt like a little groupie bro too.
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe shop, I'll give me a toiletee bag of something fun.
Speaker 2: Maybe a bell, that's right.
Speaker 4: But nah, everywhere I went, Bro, I asked, I asked
Speaker 4: those teammates.
Speaker 3: Bro, you got a cup extra passes that night on
Speaker 3: extra stin that night after he took a.
Speaker 2: Shot it up.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm throwing at the white heired every time you
Speaker 4: wanted with with without the shopping springs. Look, because you
Speaker 4: know what, I ain't playing no, d he blocking all
Speaker 4: that ship.
Speaker 2: He got your back at all times. What's your favorite
Speaker 2: white chocolate? Highlight a moment?
Speaker 1: M that's tough for me because he beginve you mind,
Speaker 1: he don't like to talk about his self.
Speaker 2: Thought, I'm gonna give.
Speaker 3: You mine and it's my home and my big homie
Speaker 3: for what you did to Gary Payton.
Speaker 2: Come on, y'all. And that's back when that was crazy.
Speaker 2: That was crazy. But that's back when Jay Boy had
Speaker 2: to do this ship to his hair too. He was
Speaker 2: the glove. He was the glove did shipped to the side.
Speaker 2: He turned in to the minton Uck.
Speaker 4: But b what people don't realize he was talking so
Speaker 4: much ship in that game prior to that.
Speaker 2: Bro Boy having like he was scared. For a second.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, like I don't know if I
Speaker 4: belong on here, like like this is Gary Payton, Like
Speaker 4: that's Gary Payton, Like I don't really I don't realize
Speaker 4: who Gary Payton is.
Speaker 2: What the glove man?
Speaker 4: But I hit I hit one from like thirty feet
Speaker 4: to play before that, that's what said it all up.
Speaker 4: So he had to come out and I don't care
Speaker 4: who you are. If I'm coming at your full speed, you.
Speaker 1: Got no chance better chance of pittsing in the hot
Speaker 1: souse bottle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you, I got you. That's right, that's right, hey.
Speaker 3: But for the players that seeing that move, oh we
Speaker 3: was like, oh he did, Jake, he did GP like that.
Speaker 2: It's over now. Everybody's scared now.
Speaker 4: I think if he wouldn't have tried to trip me,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't have been as bad as it was.
Speaker 2: I don't think. But he gave your props. He did.
Speaker 2: He gave your props too. He ain't saying nothing else
Speaker 2: to me the rest of the game. I'm promising, but
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, coming down to court, he looking at.
Speaker 4: You like, that's right, you get hyeah, like you ain't
Speaker 4: supposed to do that.
Speaker 2: Ain't supposed to do that to me?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, all right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a list of teammates. Just give
Speaker 1: me one word to describe them.
Speaker 4: See where awesome, Doug Christy, fantastic, Matt Barnes, dope bothway.
Speaker 2: My god, my god, d Wade.
Speaker 4: Sweaty oh ship shock, dominant, powe.
Speaker 2: Oh man, m hmmm.
Speaker 4: What was Buddy's name? From san Fron and Son Julio
Speaker 4: Stroll MoU Swift called Buddy. Julio had to go, Bro,
Speaker 4: They had to go, Hey, look why y'all out of
Speaker 4: to pull up Julio from.
Speaker 3: He stayed next door, stay next door, and he came
Speaker 3: across to the set.
Speaker 2: He was in his goat was in the sama stant yard.
Speaker 4: Pull up Julio and Palgasol side by side.
Speaker 2: I know the exact episode five dinner Guess Dead or Alive.
Speaker 3: This is our best this is our best question on
Speaker 3: our show. It is yes, So.
Speaker 2: Are you talking? You you want to be like?
Speaker 4: Think about it? Whether you want at your table now,
Speaker 4: anybody in the whole world ever ever invented I mean,
Speaker 4: there's there's no way that I'm gonna be able to
Speaker 4: give you five without going in the car driving somewhere
Speaker 4: and saying, damn, I should have named them.
Speaker 2: But okay, it's gonna that that that happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Michael Jordan's Golden Larry Bird, golt uh Man,
Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle, good call, got a whole bunch of goats.
Speaker 2: Man, you need some lettuce.
Speaker 4: I'm finna get a cramp in my handstring when I'm
Speaker 4: finna get h man, Drake, That's that's a tough question
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 2: Last morning, you got more the name four good ones man,
Speaker 2: he said, somebody from bell.
Speaker 4: This This is me and Randy there bro he from
Speaker 4: down the other side. So he ain't not from Bail.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know my dad. How about my dad? Bro?
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, there you go, There
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: Last thing to final question, Jim, if you could see
Speaker 3: anybody on our.
Speaker 2: Show, who would it be?
Speaker 1: But but you have to help us get your answer
Speaker 1: on D show, So it's gotta be someone you know
Speaker 1: on D show, D Show.
Speaker 4: I think that's more of a question for the people, bro,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, like people.
Speaker 2: Nah, but hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, y'all.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, y'all.
Speaker 3: Everybody got the connections you you got, so think about
Speaker 3: the friends you got and then the connections. Then come
Speaker 3: back to the answer because you know a lot of motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: And we ain't had Randy Mouse on.
Speaker 2: Hell oh I say Randy. I didn't say Randy. My bad.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to say that, My bad. It must
Speaker 2: be the kittens.
Speaker 4: If the kittens you see where right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had we have a great show with see
Speaker 3: well shout out to sea well man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Moss would be good.
Speaker 3: And we also got all the smoke cannabis partner well
Speaker 3: see well right, yeah, and plays only.
Speaker 1: And we also got lights and we also got pre
Speaker 1: roll light the beams, Kings beams in here too, maybe
Speaker 1: like the beams after this. Yeah, yeah, you better lights
Speaker 1: up and we got a lot of beams back here.
Speaker 1: We got like three hundred them bitches back here. We's
Speaker 1: let's go. Well, man, I think that's it. Jay, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you, man question. Yeah, he said Randy Moss.
Speaker 3: No, he didn't say, I said Randy mo He said
Speaker 3: Randy would be a good Okay, So that means you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna help us get him on.
Speaker 4: The show as soon as we get off here.
Speaker 3: All the texting, Hey, let me tell you that because
Speaker 3: a lot of our guests be wolfing a lot of
Speaker 3: I guess that a lot of shit they So guess
Speaker 3: if you're watching this, y'all cap ball cap colin cap
Speaker 3: all type of cap, y'all cap.
Speaker 1: Well, man, we appreciate everybody coming out tonight. We hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed the show.
Speaker 3: Cheer.
Speaker 1: Jay's got to get out here and catch a flight,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna get up out of here.
Speaker 2: But man, we want to thank everyone coming out for you.
Speaker 1: Jack, You're gonna hang around for a little bit mingo, smoke,
Speaker 1: chill out. So thank you guys for coming. Thank you
Speaker 1: Urban Roots come on, Rob, say something. This is a
Speaker 1: man right here.
Speaker 3: We have to owner here. Got to have him say something.
Speaker 3: Black owner, Yeah, black owner. We appreciate you having us here.
Speaker 2: Man. We could have a lot of places we could
Speaker 2: have last year.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of places we could have been but
Speaker 3: for you to open your doors to us, for all
Speaker 3: the people to come out and support you. But we
Speaker 3: appreciate you having us. So you have to say something, yo.
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 5: Listen, y'all have a show about giving out flowers, but
Speaker 5: you know what I want to give y'all, y'all flowers.
Speaker 5: This is amazing what y'all doing. Honestly, it's amazing. And
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna tell you one of you know, one
Speaker 5: of my core values is self care. And every morning
Speaker 5: I wake up five five point thirty and I'm on
Speaker 5: the bike and you know what I'm listening to, y'all.
Speaker 2: Shit, I listen to y'all ship.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, My God, Jelani, y'all putting
Speaker 5: so much hard work, the whole crew.
Speaker 2: I appreciate everything you do.
Speaker 5: You know what, you guys bring out a different energy
Speaker 5: and all your guests that nobody else can do, And
Speaker 5: I just want to deeply say that's why I think
Speaker 5: everybody's here, because we all feel the same way.
Speaker 2: And I ain't gonna lie. Man.
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like a fanboy right now. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying because this is my ship. That's
Speaker 5: why I listen to every day. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I love you, but listen. My gift to y'all from
Speaker 5: your flowers, y'all ain't never gonna pay for another beverage
Speaker 5: at any of my places.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you Jack that except the roots, Matt get
Speaker 1: me on, Jack, Jack might not go home be telling that. Joe, Jay,
Speaker 1: my God, thanks.
Speaker 2: For having us, bro.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you well again.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, everybody for coming out. Give what give.
Speaker 2: Jay will around