1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: I've loved jazz ever since I was a little boy, 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and part of what makes it so unique is that 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: it's like any other form of music. There is a tune, 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: you have to know, a key, you've got to play 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: it in a chord structure you have to follow. But 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: to be really faithful to jazz, you have to both 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: stay within those parameters and make things up a little 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: as you go along. To make the most of a song, 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: you've got to both play it and create out of it. 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: So why am I telling you this? I've been thinking 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: about that a lot over the last several months as 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: we've been living through these unprecedented times. We've all been 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: forced to improvise. But if we can do it in 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: harmony with one another, we have the chance to reimagine 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: what our entire society looks like and how it operates, 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: and come out on the other side of this as 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: a more inclusive, kinder, equitable, and successful nation. If there's 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: no better art form to explain these times in jazz, 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: then I'm very lucky to have with me today one 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: of the greatest jazz musicians of all time, my longtime 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: friend went to Marsalis. Wenten is arguably the greatest trumpeter alive. 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: He's won nine Grammys. He's the only artist ever to 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: win Grammys in the same year for both jazz and 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: classical records, and he did it twice. In his early twenties, 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: he became the first jazz musician to receive the Fuel 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: of Surprise from Music. He's received both the National Medal 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: of Arts and the National Humanities Medal, and performed for 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Hillary and Me at the White House that one of 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: our national Millennium events with Marion McPartland. The main guest 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: was President Buckliffe Hovel of the Czech Republic. He led 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: perhaps the only peaceful revolution in the world, powered by jazz. 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: They met in the Jazz Clubs. It's co founder of 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Jazz at the Lincoln Center. Wentn't has helped to grow 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: the global jazz community through performance, advocacy, and education. He's 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: a passionate champion of equality and social justice, constantly using 36 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: his gifts to celebrate our common humanity and to show 37 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: us what we can do if we work together. That's 38 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: true more than anything else, and two of his most 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: recent works, The Democracy Suite and The ever Funky Lowdown. 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: I've been Blessed to know went in for more than 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: twenty five years now, and I've had a lot of 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: chances to listen to and to learn from him. I 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: come away from every performance or conversation knowing I have 44 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: learned from listening, and knowing now I have a deeper 45 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: appreciation for jazz, for America, for the human experience, and 46 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: for Winting Marsalis. I very I had to talk to 47 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: him now went and welcome. Yes, sir, it's a great pleasure, 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: on of course, to sit out and talk with you, 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: as it always is. So thank you for that that 50 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: very flowery introduction and all those all those kind acones. 51 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. I remember once I was talking to you 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: on the phone and I asked you how much of 53 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: your great gift was God given and how much it 54 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: was his work. And I told you a story about 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: how I decided not to become a musician when I 56 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: was sixteen. I looked in the mirror and I said, 57 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm happier playing my saxophone than anything I've ever done. 58 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: But no matter how hard I work, I'll never be 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: as good as Cold Frank. And uh, you said something 60 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: to me about Cold frand I'll never forget. You said, yeah, 61 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: that's true, but he said, don't underestimate hard work. And 62 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: you sent me a tape of Coltrane playing at age seventeen. 63 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: You remember that, Remember that he said he's flapped half 64 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the time. And I listened to you and I realized 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: that was true, and how much better he got the 66 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: longer he lived. And then I realized that at seventeen 67 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: and flat, he was better than I ever thought about. 68 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: I love that you re ready's today tap of him 69 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: in the navy, that's right. But he I think he 70 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: gave my seventeen or nineteen. Yeah, well, you know, we 71 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: like to We like the joke. But I always love 72 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: the fact that you you played, and you brought that 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: consciousness to people, you know, And I think that that's 74 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: one thing that's been truly been lost and our political discourse, 75 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: looking at all the debates, everything that's going on, and 76 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: you take the pick the years you want. Did the 77 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: power of our arts and the American arts to heal us, 78 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: to bring us together? The virtuosity of the artists, the 79 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of hipness and the soulfulness of a Coltrane. None 80 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: of us are gonna play like Train. I mean, you know, 81 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Train was was what Train was. But the fact that 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: we know John Coltrane, and we know what I Love 83 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Supreme is, and we know what jazz is. It was 84 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: always kind of a binding thing, like, yes, Coltrane had 85 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: prodigious talent, but he didn't he wasn't like Charlie Parker, 86 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: and he felt like he had no talent. And yes, 87 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: Coltrane worked this behind off and he became much much 88 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: better as the years past. Those two things are always 89 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: true about him. And it was also true as it 90 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you will practice and be as great as 91 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: him in terms of whatever you're aspiring to. But in 92 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: jazz you can achieve the sound of your person. Nothing 93 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: keeps you from achieving that. It's just depends on what 94 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: your definition of virtuosity is. And I know the things 95 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: you learned just from being a jazz musician, once you 96 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: were able to apply them to all the other things 97 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: that you knew, that just made you so much stronger 98 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: in dealing with other people. Because jazz is a very 99 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: empathetic music. We've often talked about her. Jazz is more 100 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: than just America's original unique art form, but really it's 101 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 1: the music of democracy at its best, and as you've said, 102 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: part of america mythology At what point in your career 103 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: did you think about the connection of jazz to democracy 104 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: and what prompted you to do it. I think early on, 105 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: because I grew up with a jazz musician and always 106 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: hearing my father and the other musicians talk about America, 107 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: and also my my father's viewpoint. He was always in 108 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: the barbershop arguing against points of view that we all 109 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: had in the seventies. That was the Black Power time 110 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: and the kind of first time black people had a voice, 111 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: and the younger people we had our afros and our 112 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: our platform shoes and all the things that we had, 113 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: and we were all talking in the same way that 114 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: we had been talked to. And my father was always 115 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: so so even minded. At that time, of course it 116 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: was an embarrassment to me, but he was always speaking 117 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: for against racism, against retaliation against people, always at a 118 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: very deep spiritual connection to the human condition as a whole. 119 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: He always was talking about larger thoughts and that was 120 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: not what we were thinking about. So I always connected 121 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: jazz to a democracy through him and other jazz musicians. 122 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: What do you make of this last selection? Is that 123 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: an affirmation of our common humanity or a reaffirmation of 124 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: our deep divisions. You know, I think that is both 125 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: it ties into what we were talking about with jazz 126 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: because it just so so happens at the fact that 127 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: we have the type of diversity we have in our democracy, 128 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: uh is making it hard to undermine the will of 129 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: the voter, and we have that with in jazz bands, 130 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: with an individual who is improvising, with the collective of 131 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: the group playing a written part or improvising. A lot 132 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: of the stuff we do is by choice. The rhythm 133 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: section is considered to be the back line and the 134 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: horns are called the front line, but the rhythm section 135 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: defines the music. So we have horn players versus a 136 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: rhythm section versus us as a group, and we find 137 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: that dynamic playing out. That's interesting that the states are now, 138 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: regardless of party, upon you to be loyal to government, 139 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: regardless of party, and that has a lot in common 140 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: with jazz because a single solos can stand up and 141 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: play thirty minutes a solo themselves, and the band has 142 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: to has to police what's going on, it has to choose. Hey, 143 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: it's it's six of us up here. You can't play 144 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: a thirty minute solo if you're a drummer. You're okay, 145 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: you have the loudest instrument, but no one can hear 146 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: anything but drums, so we see. I don't know, I'm 147 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: giving you kind of long, long answer. But this election 148 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: and all of this is so so so full of 149 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: implication because, as you know, a democracy is not a 150 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: given in the world, no, and they're very hard to preserve. 151 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Ours has been around a long time, and people take 152 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things for granted once it's been around 153 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: a long time, and so everybody levels around the edges 154 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: to take advantage of getting what they want until pretty 155 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: seting the foundations are weak, and I think that's what's 156 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: happening to us, but this could be strengthening. One of 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: the things I liked about ever funking lowdown is that 158 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: you basically talk about how this divisiveness its us in 159 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: them world is kind of like a drug. You you 160 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: get addicted to it. You've got to be against something 161 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: in somebody, and reconciliation takes is harder work. I remember 162 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: I spent three billion dollars of the American people's tax 163 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: money to sequence the human genome, and the most important 164 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: thing we learned from a political and social point of 165 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: view is that we're all nine and nine and a 166 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: half per cents the same, but we spend nine and 167 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: nine and a half a percent of our time focusing 168 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: on the half of percent. Now, to turn everything into 169 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: a zero sum game is a bad way to run 170 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: a railroad or a country. And I see you trying 171 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: to be a force for reconciliation, and I think that 172 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: live in a time where, in different ways, almost all 173 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: of us are being programmed right for division right. And 174 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the religious traditions, if 175 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: we look into Junior Christian traditional, what the devil does, 176 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: the devil symbolically simplifies. So for those who may not 177 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: believe in in that religion or have a different belief system, 178 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: it's a simplification to take all nuances out and give 179 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: you a non choice choice, and then the ever funky lowdown. 180 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: That's what Mr Game does. He points out that there 181 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: are others. Then he tells you what's wrong with them. 182 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: I think I heard that they've been committing the various 183 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: climes and they don't believe in God. Then he says 184 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: you have to beat them. We must strike first to 185 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: prevent what they may be trying to do to us, 186 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: and to save them, and the ever funky lowdown is 187 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 1: when you've beaten them. He says, losers want to be winners. 188 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: He speaks in the terms of losers and winners. And 189 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: then what the losers have to do is they have 190 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: to accommodate the winner's vision of them. Let me take 191 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: you back to the school yard. Most kids just give 192 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: in and follow the bully, but a few back away, 193 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: threatening some type of retaliation. Whether subservient or resistant, each 194 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: will adjust their philosophy to accommodate defeat. That's the illusion 195 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: of choice, the old binary hustle. Let's see versus who too, 196 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: God fearing versus heathens, Democrats versus Republicans. Yes, there are 197 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: two sides to every coin, but it's still the same coin. 198 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: Losers have two choices. Entertain us by playing out our 199 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: vision of them as meek, emasculated justice or excite us 200 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: playing out our vision of them as dangerous, captured savages. 201 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: It's much more provocative when you when you begin to 202 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: attack people or attack something. But still, if you take 203 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the most brilliant of all of us, we still don't 204 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: know anything in relation to what there is to be known, 205 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: because we can't rise above whatever our press active may 206 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: happen to be. The problem of human living requires more 207 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: than the vision of a single person, whoever that person is. 208 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: We say in our trumpets section, it's four of us 209 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: and one of our trumpet players we were going to 210 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: play a party was written for me, but he would 211 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: have been much better playing it. His name is Marcus 212 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: print Up. So when I said, I think Printaple played 213 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: this part much better, we all knew he would. So 214 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: the catch of the band all started laughing, Oh, give 215 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: it to print You're scared to play your part. You're 216 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: scared to play the part. And Printer said, well, it's 217 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: four of us back here, and we all have different 218 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: things we do, but if you put the four of 219 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: us together, we make one hell of a trumpet player. 220 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: So it's like to conceive of the talent that we 221 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: have in the world or in the United States of America, 222 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: that we only have a vision of how to keep 223 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: other people down or beat up on people who don't 224 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: have agency, and people with the most agency in the 225 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: society spent a lot of that time figuring out how 226 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: to how to work on a sophisticated kleptocracy. And that's 227 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: on both sides of the coin instead of figuring out 228 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: how a free to potential in all the power we 229 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: have and bringing us together and using our intellectual firepower, 230 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: spiritual firepower, and the best of our tradition. Because the 231 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: best of our tradition is us coming together. We should 232 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: never forget even something that's divisive as race relations. And 233 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a Southerner. I grew up with great 234 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: uh prejudice and ignorance and in segregation. I don't play 235 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: around with it. I never joke or act like it 236 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: wasn't for real. It's for real, and it was for real. 237 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: But when I look through my own history, can I 238 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: honestly say I didn't have white Americas that said, well, 239 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you in this struggle. And I think that 240 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: our mythology hurts us as a nation because whenever there's 241 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: something negative, it's picked upon and it's spread and the 242 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: legacy of success that we've had has to be used 243 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: to combat all of the many failures we've had. Harmony, 244 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: that's right, harmony. My little brother asked me what is 245 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: the opposite of disharmony, and I said, unison. Wow, So 246 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: we started to laugh. We started to laugh about it 247 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: because because because dis harmony and chaos. When you talk 248 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: about dis harmony and chaos, uh, the you you would 249 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: think that the opposite of it is harmony, But actually 250 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: the opposite of it is unison because everybody playing the 251 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: same thing. That's also what you do not want. You 252 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: don't want everybody having the same opinion. You want to 253 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: be forced to harmonize with people, to make choices to 254 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: go in and out in harmony is one of the 255 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: greatest arts of music. I wanted, asked Lenda Bernstein about harmony. 256 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: I'd read his his class on harmony of the Young 257 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: People's Council. He said, Man, that's the most difficult thing 258 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: to to describe, he said, because harmony is like a 259 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: conversation in which a person is the center of the 260 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: conversation in one moment and their point of view is 261 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: absolutely of no interest. They have to become active as listeners, 262 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: he said. So in harmony progression, you know, at one 263 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: point a note C may be the root of the 264 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: card and the most important thing, he said, But the 265 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: very next second that may be a flat thirteen of 266 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: some upper extension of the of the harmony. And then 267 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: on the next it may be a note that does 268 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: not even sound. So it's it's an art that it's vertical. 269 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: It lays out in blocks, and it's horizon, it lays 270 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: out in time. So I think, Uh, yeah, what you're 271 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: saying about harmony, it's it's a very complex thing to 272 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: teach and to understand more with my guests went to 273 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Marsalis after this. Let me ask you about another recent 274 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: fist you did, the Democracy Suite. Uh, what did you 275 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: want the message to be? And if jazz loving policeman 276 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: in New York hered it, how would you like him 277 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: to feel? Um, I would like him to feel that 278 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: he's a part of a great ongoing process that needs 279 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: his industry and his energy to take us to a 280 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: higher and better place that he may want to go in. 281 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: One of my best friends in the world was a 282 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Chicago City policeman in what Chicago. I was the best 283 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: man in his wedding, Officer Tony Parker, and Uh, we 284 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: were good friends. We are good friends and will will 285 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: be good friends for life. And we've argued the kind 286 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: of police abuse and arguing and all the stuff that 287 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: goes on. And I think that it's it's important for 288 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: us to understand that corruption exists everywhere in the system, 289 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: and and for us to not give people who are 290 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: not corrupt put them in a place where they have 291 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: to co sign corruption, but also to not act like 292 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: we don't know that there is corruption. So I think 293 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: in the Democracy Suite, I deal with all things that 294 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: we all have dealt with in this time. Spotlight on 295 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: one of the movements in the Democracy Suite that dance 296 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: we do that you know we love to do, and 297 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: that's about all the different protests around the world where 298 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: people found a solidarity with with Brianna Taylor, George Floyd. 299 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: They found that because the people everyone in the world 300 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: can can identify with not having agency and not having 301 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: power and being abused by an individual or group that 302 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: does have power. So I tried to not simplify by 303 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: things into black white issues or right wrong issues, but 304 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: I try to try to bring nuances in that way 305 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: to to the dance we do. Even in the course 306 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: of protests and people hitting tambourines, playing grooves, singing, infect 307 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: your songs, and it does not make the song less 308 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: serious or less for real and keeping their slogans black 309 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: lives matter. It's not less real than we shall overcome. 310 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: The one kind of somber movement. It's not even somber. 311 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: It's called Deeper than dreams, and it's about all of 312 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: us who lost loved ones during this period that you 313 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to say goodbye to your loved one. 314 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: That transcends all politics and all other things. So I 315 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: tell my friends sometimes they say, man, I h you 316 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: know I can't sleep at night. I said, well, that's 317 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: the old folks coming to you. They're coming to you 318 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: because they y'all have to heal in a space that's 319 00:18:36,280 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: deeper than dreams. Uh. You lost your dad earlier this 320 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: year to COVID. Uh. We had a good, long life 321 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: and left a remarkable legacy, and you and his other sons. 322 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: From the first time I ever heard about you, listen 323 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: to your brother Branford player. I've always been fascinated by 324 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: your family story and the role your father played, and 325 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: the letter you wrote in tribute to him was one 326 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: of the most moving things I think I ever read, 327 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: and all the more powerful for saying that your hurt 328 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: was no more valid or stronger than that of so 329 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: many others who lost people, which I think your dad 330 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: also said, not long for it. So tell us about 331 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: him and what impact he had on your growing up 332 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: and on your life and what impact is loss has 333 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: had on what you do now? Well, you know, for 334 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you your comments on him. I mean, he 335 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: was my man, you know, went from the time I 336 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: was born as like I hung with him and it 337 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: was not glamorous like he was just he was a guy. 338 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: My father was not a a physical guy, heroic wanting 339 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: to whatever strike want to strike people or be uh. 340 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: He was very philosophical person who who when he was 341 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: growing up. He told me he had gotten bullied by 342 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: people because that wasn't his personality. And I learned more 343 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: about what it meant to be a human being just 344 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: watching him. He talked to everybody the same. If he 345 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: had the chance to meet you, he would be honest. 346 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: He would be just as respectful as he would with 347 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: a homeless person in the street. He would talk to 348 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: homeless cats and come back, man, this cat had an 349 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: interesting story. You see. He used to be an architect. 350 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: He could go into the whole thing that he had 351 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: talked about. And I saw my father playing empty clubs 352 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: for for the seventeen years I lived with him. I 353 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: saw him be in situations that would humiliate any person. 354 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: Each handled it all with racy sophistication. He studied, he practiced, 355 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: he taught. He was a person of the community. He 356 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: played for no people. He played just as hard to 357 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: an empty room as he would play for people. I 358 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: always tell the one story, I never really liked jazz 359 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: growing up. I was just always I like to be 360 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: in clubs and here older people down on their luck. 361 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: Here the stuff they talked about, all the kind of 362 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: nasty talking things that went on. So I always loved 363 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: being in an environment. And I was fortunate to be 364 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: in the environment because I was with him. I knew 365 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: how to be quiet, how to just be in my space. 366 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: But I loved that. I did not like the music 367 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: that much. When I started to get into the music, 368 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: I was eleven or going into being twelve, and he 369 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: played in the club called Lewin Charlie's, and it was 370 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: late at night. He closed the club up. There was 371 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: nobody in this club but one man who was drunk. 372 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: And I went to my father and I said, man, 373 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: let's go. You know, it's two o'clock, it's only me 374 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: and you. Let's let's look this guy here. He was drunk, 375 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: and we looked out into the club. Empty club nobody 376 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: in it. My father playing at piano. My father looks 377 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: at me and he he says, Man, this gig against 378 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: at two thirty and to thirty. Man, let's get this 379 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: guy out of here and close up. Charlie is the 380 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: old club on it. Charlie is gone. Let's let's go home. 381 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: We had a thirty minute drive home. My daddy told me, man, 382 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: sit your ass down and listen to some music for 383 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: a change. So it actually was. It was actually funny 384 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: because it's only meet him. So I actually sat down 385 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: and for all the years of being in the club, 386 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: then I guess since I was two years old, I've 387 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: been in clubs, it's the first time I really just 388 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: really listened to him playing. Now. Of course, I grew 389 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: up here in practice, so his song was a part 390 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: of my life. I looked around that club and I thought, 391 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: what makes a person do what this man is doing? 392 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: Playing for no people it two in the morning, and uh, 393 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: you know that that shaped my life, like just the 394 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: integrity he showed. And he played a pile of piano 395 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: in that thirty minutes. And then I said to myself, 396 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: I wonder if I could learn how to play like him, 397 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: because I mainly teased him at because he was such 398 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: a serious man. I was always joking with him, even 399 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: the last conversation I had with him before he before 400 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: he went in the hospital and then he died a 401 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: few days after that. I was teasing and messing with 402 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: him and always kind of joking, joking with him that 403 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: I could play better than him piano. I played my 404 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: piano and play some ones, you know, start playing some 405 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: courts like him. This just favorite chord. He would play 406 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: this big six nine chord. So you always played and 407 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: you go. He always played those kind of little phrases. 408 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: I would start playing him and said, man, you better 409 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: look out. I'm coming for you. So yeah, I remember, 410 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: I remember that night. And there's so many other things. 411 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: My daddy was so fair with people, and he had 412 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: such integrity about things. You couldn't buy him out. He 413 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: didn't remember. When I made a little money. I was 414 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two. I said, man, let me get 415 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: your house. He said, man, you you felipe. I don't 416 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: need you to get me a house. I'm comfortable in 417 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: my own house. So he he was just philosophically. If 418 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: you were if you acted small, or you did something 419 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: that was small. He would call you on it. He 420 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: hated for you to call people them. He said, who 421 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: is they? Man? Who is they? That's why I wrote 422 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: a movement and the ever fun get Down called they 423 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: because he tell me who they are? Do you know them? 424 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: What's their name? And so many other things I could 425 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: tell you. I mean, I just he was. He was 426 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: such a he was such a big person. I remember once. 427 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you this one last story to 428 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: just about who he was. When I first came to 429 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: New York, I started to get a lot of publicity, 430 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: and I talked a lot. So the older musicians really 431 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: didn't like me. And I was always talking about the 432 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: integrity and music and all these things that were far 433 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: beyond what my playing earned me the write to talk about. 434 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: From a philosophical standpoint, what I was saying was not inaccurate, 435 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: but I shouldn't have been saying it, you know. And 436 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: I went back to New Orleans to play a gig, 437 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: and my father always let me see there with him, 438 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: and then this gig he did, he didn't call me 439 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: up on the band stand. So the whole time I 440 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: was standing the man I was I was getting, I said, 441 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: he just like these other musicians in New York. Then finally, 442 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: on the last tune, he brought me up on the 443 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: band stand. I was dealing with all kind of emotion 444 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: and angry at him that he was mad because I 445 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: had become successful and uh so I played and as 446 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: we were walking off the band stand, thinking all the 447 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: stuff I was thinking, my father put his arm around 448 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: me and he said, man, I'm sorry about my rhythm section. 449 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I really didn't want to call you up at all. 450 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: So I started laughing. I told him, but I said, man, 451 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: I was thinking so many small thoughts. And he just 452 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: looked at me and shook his head. He said, boy, 453 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: this cat so you know he was Yeah, he was. 454 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: He was. He was a good person. I mean he 455 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: had a good heart and a good, good feeling to him. 456 00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Hi, this is Bill Clinton. I 457 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying. Why am I telling you this? After 458 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: leaving the White House, I wanted to keep working on 459 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: issues I cared about where I believed I could still 460 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: make a difference and help a lot of people. 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The Clinton Foundation is still putting 476 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: people first and creating a culture of possibility. We couldn't 477 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: do any of it without your support. I hope you'll 478 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: take a moment to share your thoughts and ideas with 479 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: us and learn more about our work by visiting www 480 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: dot Clinton Foundation dot org. Slash podcast. Thank you. You know. 481 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: One of the things that I always liked you did 482 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: was your interests in autism. Hillary was on the Autism 483 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: Caucus in the Senate. And I remember when she ran 484 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: for president in two thousand and eight. We do these 485 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: front porch rallies, you know, when there'll be people there. 486 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: Maybe there's fifty people and maybe there's three hundred. I 487 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: would always mention autism and how she was the first 488 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: person ever to have a position on autism. And I 489 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: promise you there was not one single solitary event I 490 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: ever did, not one where someone didn't mention to me 491 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: after when I was shaking hands. You know, my sister 492 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: has it, might have a child with it. Here's my 493 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: spectrum is very broad. Here's my fifteen year old who's 494 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: got autism and he's running for class president. I mean, 495 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I think that it's kind of like this coronavirus, you 496 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: know it, when that virus goes chasing you, your Republican 497 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: or Democratic credentials don't keep it out. And that's the 498 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: way autism. And when you know, because you've got in 499 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: your family, you've got to be pretty flexible and how 500 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: you deal with it. I think I think we we 501 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: so much of a human condition unifies us, you know, childbirth, adolescence, death, loss, 502 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: all these things we all are experience them. Any health 503 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: crisis you have, everybody is having it. If you have it, 504 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: you have art conditioned. A lot of people have art conditions, 505 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: mental conditions. People have it. And uh, I learned so 506 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: much from having a brother that was severely artistic growing up, 507 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: just to see kind of the impact on the family 508 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: and not knowing what then. We didn't know what it 509 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: was even to describe somebody in my neighborhood what autism was. 510 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: They thought we were saying artistic. They say, man, that's great. 511 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: You know what, what what is this? What does he? 512 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Is he a paint or whatever? You know, artism? What 513 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: is that? So I think, yeah, and I also agree 514 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: with you. The coronavirus can be a great rally and crying. 515 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: I think the last movement of the democracy Suite. I 516 00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: wrote a piece called That's when all We'll see And 517 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: what it's about is that you see in our country 518 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: after nine eleven, the things people did to come together 519 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: after the the Katrina. I thought that was a fantastic 520 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: national story. Yes, there's a lot of government in the aptitude. 521 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: There was a lot of things to complain about. Corruption, 522 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: stealing always goes on, But when you look at what 523 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: the citizens of the United States of America did for 524 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: citizens of New Orleans all up and down this country. 525 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable national success story, but it remains in 526 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: natural memory is something that left a bad taste. You know. 527 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: Of course the city made decisions it made. It were 528 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: not intelligent decisions, but the feeling of the people that 529 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: came out in that time being a New Orleanans going 530 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: around asking people for help for New Orleans. There was 531 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: an unbelievable outpouring of love and of citizenship and of 532 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: help that was very tangible to hundreds of thousands of people. 533 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: And that's when all wins will see says, we have 534 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: so many points of connection, and we continue to override 535 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: those instances to find a way to hate each other 536 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: and to continue the legacy of hatred and to allow 537 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: leaders to drag us down that road. And not just leaders, 538 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: political leaders. Anyone who is willing to exploit a populace 539 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: for some type of gain and agency is a master's 540 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: in a slave narrative, and that masters slave mythology that 541 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: only a handful of people can have agency and the 542 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: rest of y'all, y'all better work for us and just 543 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: be exploited. When an actuality. Everything great in the world 544 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: is showing us that we live in an unbelievable ball 545 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: of creativity, that we can create more and more and 546 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: more increase as we free more and more and more 547 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: creative people. And the arts is the best place to 548 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: begin to adjust your understanding of a common humanity. And 549 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: we as Americans, for some reason, have never been able 550 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: to find or locate the arts in a in a 551 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: position on our national radar, not even an unimportant position, 552 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: lit a long the position of prominence it needs to 553 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: occupy for us to do what we need to do 554 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: to get the nourishment that it most clearly provides. Let 555 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: me ask you before we finish, because a lot of 556 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: people will be listening to this who maybe never been 557 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: to New Orleans, and it's one of my favorite places 558 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: on earth. And I was honored to work for years 559 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: on in the afrimath of Katrainer to try to help 560 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: the whole Golf Coast, but especially the Crescent City to recover. 561 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: If you were talking to total stranger who had never 562 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: been out of Alaska about what you got out of 563 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: being born in and growing up and around there and 564 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: then that culture, what would you say to them? Um, 565 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: I would say a sing song way of approaching bad 566 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: things did happen? And a full culture because it's there's 567 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: a lot of soul for people in Alaska to now. 568 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: I've been I played there, I played up in old 569 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: old Alaska. But we have a full culture. We have 570 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: our own art, we have our own music, we have 571 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: our own architecture, we have our own stories, we have 572 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: our own and the sing song like so, if you're 573 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: not against a sing a sing song, skip a dance 574 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: a way to approach the tragedies of life when you 575 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: when you you understand how much, what what type of 576 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: armor and shield that is. I remember you and I talked. 577 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: You were president then, and you told me, I don't 578 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: know if you can remember this. You said, Man, I 579 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: just came back from from New Orleans and Bourbon Street Man, 580 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: that was some of the worst music I ever heard 581 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: in my life. What can we do to get people 582 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: back to playing New Orleans music. I told my daddy 583 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: that he loved that. He says he knows what's happening. Yeah, 584 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: I was upset because there was nobody playing. There was nobody, 585 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, you had to except for presidenttion Hall. There 586 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: was nothing going on. It was no New Orleans music. Yeah, 587 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: I saw you once on television and you didn't have 588 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: a horn in your hand. You were given a college 589 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: lecture about music, and I was I was doing something else. 590 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: I just sort of saw it as I was passing 591 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: by a TV and I sat down and listened to 592 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and I thought, it's relatively rare for 593 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: a person to be gifted at anything, be a great golfer, 594 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: be a great track star, be a great anything, who 595 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: is also a profoundly great teacher of it. And the 596 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: thing that is to me has been greatest about jazz 597 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: at the Lincoln Center over all these years, and all 598 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: those young people you've brought in there, all of them, 599 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: you've taught, many of them had the pleasure to hear 600 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: play from time to time. Where'd you get that? And 601 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: how can we value that more? Well? I appreciate your 602 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: olver assessment of my abilities, so thank you. But it's 603 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: all my daddy stuff, you know. I mean, I just 604 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: he was a great teacher, and I just was always 605 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: around him, seeing him in the way he would teach. 606 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: And then also as experience for me, I've been teaching 607 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: since I did my first class in East St. Louis 608 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: when I was eighteen for high school students, I was 609 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: on the road plan with our Blakey And I think 610 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: just having that good example of my father and the 611 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: many great teachers I've had and work with Jazlyne Consenter. 612 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: We have education Department and twelve education programs and we 613 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: get great students and they also teach, so you know, 614 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: I just think that, uh, it's just there are there 615 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: are many fantastic teachers across the United States and the world, 616 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: and they do their work every day with with Noah 617 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: Hoopla and just to be in that lineage and in 618 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: that line and to have respect and to have a 619 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: veneration for information and for education and for knowledge. A 620 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: democracy has to have that, because as as we lose 621 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: our relationship with the process of learning things, we're gonna 622 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: be more and more susceptible to the cheapest forms of populism. 623 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: As we are in music. If you look at the 624 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: American Music Awater, Yeah, you have to laugh at some 625 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: of this stuff. Man, So much of it is trash. 626 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: But that's where we are, and for us to reform it, 627 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: we've got to start with a baseline of education and 628 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: in a belief in in knowing. And I think, uh, 629 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: I come from the Blues tradition, and in that tradition 630 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: we but we always believe we're believers, and and and 631 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: I always want people to know that your belief is 632 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: an action. With trump at playing, always teach when you 633 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: take a breath, everything that's in that breath is what's 634 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: gonna come out of your sound. Doesn't cost you anything 635 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: to take a breath. When you take that breath, fill 636 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: that breath with the most meaningful things that you want 637 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: to play, and then it will come out. And a 638 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: thought is an action. So I want us to deal 639 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: with I thought. I I believe in you, I believe 640 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: in this process. I believe in people. I believe that 641 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 1: we can get from point A to point to point 642 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: see and that we will not descend into chaos and 643 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: killing each other because we it would have been easy 644 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: for us to do that before now, and we have 645 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: not done it. So I don't need the evidence to 646 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: believe in that. I am going to be the evidence 647 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: of it, and that we were all doing all we 648 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: can to make the life that we live better. Maybe 649 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: it begins a boy takeing using people to take a 650 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: deep breath, A deep breath, full of something meaningful. You 651 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: know when I was when I was a boy, I 652 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: was closed and I was in the school band. I 653 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: used to go to this clinic and we had a 654 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: high school band director in Arkansas who played first trumpet 655 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: and John Phillips Susan's last band. I love that and 656 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: it was a knight of Arkansas, like just having to 657 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: be here. And he said, if you can learn when 658 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: to breathe and how to control your breath, you will 659 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: control your mind, you will control your heart, you will 660 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: build a life. And he would start these teaching things 661 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: about taking this trumpet and flaying what seemed forever. He 662 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: could hold his breath twice as long as any of 663 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: us and maintain the clarity and purity of the note. 664 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: And I think that that's the legacy that you have 665 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: given the many of us. We listen to you. We'd 666 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 1: love to hear you play, we'd love to hear your talk. 667 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: But you touch our hearts and our minds and give 668 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: us a chance to learn in harmony and creativity. Thank you, 669 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Mr President has been honest speaking 670 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: with you. Let me just close this one thing out. 671 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: We're talking now, and you're giving us knowledge about something 672 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: that's spiritualist breath from an everyday teacher, and that's what 673 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: where the belief in the hope comes from. And you've 674 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: been the President of the United States of America, and 675 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: that consciousness is in you, and that's how that's how 676 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: close we are in the world. So thank you for 677 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: allowing me to join you always with the deepest love 678 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: and respect. Thank you, You wouldn't bless you. And thanks. Yes, sir, 679 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: why am I telling you? This is a production of 680 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: our Heart Radio, the Clinton Foundation and at Will Media. 681 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Craig Manascian and Will Malnady. 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