WEBVTT - Alonzo Williams: Eazy E Didn't Die of AIDS, He Was Murdered! 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.800 Welcome to another episode the Gangster Chronicles, and we got 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.080 a friend of the show on again. You guys have 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.440 seen him a couple of times on the show. Very 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.800 well received, very important part of the West Coast hippop Um. 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.200 I would almost be remissed to say that without him 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.280 it might not be a lot of the Doctor dres 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.040 and snoop dogs and these different kind of figures man, 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.880 and great start landscape over the last twenty thirty years. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.320 And so Cat, what's happening? What's up? But you Ben, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.520 I'm hanging out man, it's doing what I do, just 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:32.639 doing what you do. Man. You know what we were 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.200 talking man before the show started. Man, but just about 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.760 I would say, the good old days of Compton Man. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.599 And of course you you grew up on a rear 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.480 rack side of time, sir. Let's talk about a little 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.320 bit man. How did you avoid the pitfalls and becoming 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:53.040 a gag bank? Well, you know when I grew up 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.000 in Compton man, Um, Well, I grew up this outside 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.400 of competence keeping one hoted. I grew up in answers 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.840 off of mainly else the under and uh, I didn't 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.640 qualify to be a gangster at that time. I was 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.800 a skinny kid. I was a skinny Catholic school kid. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.840 Back then, you had to have the qualifications. You had 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.040 to be able to thump. As they say, um. But 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:19.440 because I'll let me turn this myth. But because um 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.319 and I got to high school, I always had access 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.840 to a vehicle and that put me in good light 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.880 with the homies. So every time we want to go 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.840 to want to go to a dance, Captain on the 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.200 Park or something like that, either I drove and they 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.360 rolled back with me, or I take we wrote route 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.080 road to school together. So back then, your homies looked 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.680 out for you. If you wasn't what the what what 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.680 the business that you know that makes you, nobody jumped 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.959 on you. And even I had fights with it. I 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:49.520 had fights like everybody else. But because I wasn't um, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.400 I wasn't one of them that I wasn't on the 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.960 team per secon Back then it was about quantity quality, 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.520 not quantity, okay. And we didn't have the numbers in 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.960 my neighborhood. So the number of came to gangs, it 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.320 wasn't a big gang, wasn't a big number. And uh, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.120 I was just able to do it. Plus my old 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.200 man was well respected in the Cuban. My mom was 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.160 respecting in the community. And back then, my mom she 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.280 didn't run my neighborhood per se, but she had a 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.360 lot of influence and she just didn't take ship. And 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.280 she wouldn't let me hang out in certain places. And 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.359 people knew if they saw me coming at a certain time, man, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:23.720 get then they out of here. And I want to 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.000 hear the mama's mouth. And that was real shipped back there. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:32.960 That was real ship. So when did you infactuation with music? How? Man? 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.480 I've always been infactuated in music. My daddy from Mississippi, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.519 so he listened to a lot of blues, Ray Charles, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.720 and she liked that. My mom was from Louisiana, So 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.400 I had a jazz influence. My sister, I have an 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.680 older sister. She was into the R and B. So penning. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.160 Who would call you within was penning what you was 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.119 exposed to. So I was exposure everything. As a kid, 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.639 I learned the same Three Dog Night and Janice Jopplin. Uh, 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.440 I like Kennon ball Adelie, like BB King, Ray Charles, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.600 Jane Brown, dramatic. So it's always been something for me 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.760 in my house. Man. So it was always I was 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.560 always exposed different types of music, and it's just, uh, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.000 it's just stuck with me and going to a Catholic 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.640 school back in the day of Saint Aubert Ship. On 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.600 a Friday afternoon, after they game with some fish sandwiches, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.280 we have a dance in the gym. So we're like 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.640 twelve thirteen years old dancing in the gym. That was 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.240 for the so so I've always been around that kind 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.919 of stuff, so you know, it just it wasn't for me. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.840 It was a natural progression. Okay. So now during that 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.440 time when you had the sock ups and these different functions, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.000 were there a game, but their a game presence of 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.040 these dances. You know, it might have been a little 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.000 something something. It wasn't been a gag per se. But 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.560 some cats they would do. He would get jammed. Okay, 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.120 if you came to the set and was came to 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.800 the dance that was doing too much good dances I 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.320 had too cute or looking too good. The homies with 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.360 Jamie ass I had a buddy of mine got jammed 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.040 one day for no reason other than he was for 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.160 in the circle and they didn't like the way he 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.360 was dancing. He was getting too much attention from the girls, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.240 and they grew up and uh brought him up real 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.520 quick and just ran back and he looked up, didn't 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.160 no woman, didn't know who hit him, but he got 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.320 hit by by five six cats, just to let him 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.839 know he's doing too much. Sure, what's the most things experienced? 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.680 You bad with games? As far as when we're coming up, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:24.359 oh Man, probably would have to watch stax Man. Watch 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.479 stas I was sixteen years old. That was probably my 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.720 Roughlan's experience tooking them. Tookie and Jamal had just uh 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.640 started making a name for themselves. Watch that jumped off 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.120 and they had the thing at the had a big 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:42.360 gas concert at the Colosseum, and the deal was, uh, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.760 you have can stand in the stands, but you can't 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.599 come on the dand on on the field the party 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.200 because I think either the Raiders in the round, I 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.440 don't know who it was back then the football team 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.599 of that of that era had a game the next day, 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.040 and we don't want to feel messed up for people dancing, 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.400 and no matter what happened, as soon as the band 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.479 started playing with barcades, Joe text saples fingers, I think 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.640 Isaac cages was the main was the main main headliner um. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.800 People run down to the damn stage and started, you know, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.800 to the field, start dancing. They stopped the show. And 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:18.480 at one point in time, Jesse Jackson and they didn't 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.320 put this in the in the video. I was there 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.080 what they said, I was there. Jesse Jackson told the 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:29.960 Crypts to form a human chain around the perimeter of 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.440 the field at these uh colosseum. I said to myself, 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.760 that's a bad idea. Sure enough, it was a funked 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.360 up idea, and people started running down to go past 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.680 the cry the crypt they had a reputation yet, and 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:48.440 they were whooping people's ass. Okay, police, the police l 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.120 A p D. Said fuck it. They were never stood 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.000 behind by the by the sign. They said, if y'all 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.560 gonna do that, we can't help y'all. And after after 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.680 they realized it was a bad idea, they eventually brought 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.640 the police back down. Told her brothers, y'all can't have 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.120 this right here. And there's two things I learned that day. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:10.000 I learned something that day. One the Crypts hadn't didn't 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.599 have a reputation yet, and too it became like a 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.039 mob mentality because back then there was a whole lot 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.640 of crypts. But to keep niggas from niggas, to keep 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.240 their jackets for getting stolen, they was joining the cript 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.880 They was doing the honorary crypt volunteer work that day. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.359 Let me ask this because you've been around man, I 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.320 think of like seventy to seventy three, seventy three, So 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.640 you didn't grow up with just to run the meal 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:41.080 people you can up with when they was trying to 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.760 figure I grew up with an area. When they were 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.360 trying to figure out what kryp stood for, the news 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.080 were trying to figure out what this crypt stand for 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.360 because they crypt their hair because they had because the 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.000 cript Us carried kanes and ship because they was crippled. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.120 Or then then then the brothers came up with a 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.400 came up with an acronym like community Reparations in Progress 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:03.719 and something like something to that backlution. Thank you. That's 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.280 that was That was it. That was That's what it became. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.120 But that kind of went out to wonder at some 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.080 point in time and it just became just CRIPT And 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.920 I remember when Homeboy got stomped out at this at 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.240 the Palladium for a Lether the first leather jacket killing 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.760 at the Palladium. Okay sole trained event and so yeah, dude, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.440 I remember all that. I was a kid. I'm readings 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:30.960 on the news right and so putting grow with putting, 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:37.400 putting reading? Why left Centennial? Tell us about that's putting putting? 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.440 Donald Garrett and a couple of the cats. While I 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.840 left Centennial, I was in the old tc um all 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.680 TC back back then, was a good raider to keep 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.600 from half the dress for Jim and our second year 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.720 of all TC. I was a battalion commander. I had 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.560 over three kids behind me. Every parade, me and my 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.960 me and my staff is walking through the thing Square. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.360 We were high sign it and parru boys had a 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.960 bench right there at the senior Square. We're walking past, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.800 not bothering nobody, and they jumped in our faces and 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.560 their access where you where you, where you pop out? 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.040 Motherfucker's going And he was talking specifically to one of 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:19.600 my partners, Andre tall red head brother light skiing Freckles 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.280 and like I told you earlier, look like he looked 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.120 like Blake Griffin and six ft four tall brother uh 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.840 dry gold. Look at motherfucker and he was my lieutenant 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.880 and uh, he studied, and he said, why why we 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.600 gotta be some papaur motherfucker's And the fight broke out. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.800 Man man man curity guards and the g pull up 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:43.120 broke the fight up. A couple of days later, were 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.400 cutting through Enterprise Park going to the path. He left 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.160 on the priller. He leved on now he lived on 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.559 the think on the priller, I lived on Hunt on 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.320 the second. So we come through the Prise Park, Enterprise Park, 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.280 turning right into the Hunt thirty second. I go to 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.920 the pad. Well, we come to the Enterprise Park like 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.599 we always do, and we see putting, don't Garrett and 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.440 a couple of the cats and my partner Kenny Clay 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.280 was on the bench right there in front of the 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:10.680 gym at Enterprise Park. We got two choices. We could 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.800 run or we could just walk past these cool like 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.800 walk walk past these brothers like, ain't nothing happens cool. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.760 We tried to walk past him. They wasn't going for it. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.040 So they form the jumpers. They form the jumpers. My 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.560 partner Kenny Clay, anybody Kenny Clay, he didn't. He ain't 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.600 in the stories of the gang Bang, and he ain't 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.480 in the stories would put another all the other cats 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.440 that were back in the day. Kenny Clay lived directly 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.440 across the street from me. Here's grandmama and my mama 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.400 went fishing together every day. Can he claim when he 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.480 first got to California from New York. When he got 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.080 to California, wed she pulled in my backyard. He knew 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.600 me very well, my mama. We had a connection. Um. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.280 He said, y'all can't jump on them because he backed 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.720 then the gangsters was real. They was real. I wasn't 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.840 in the ship, but he's like, hey, man, y'all can't 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.520 jump on them. Y'all got to go head up. So uh, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.240 my boy and Mr Garrett decided to go head up. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.760 What I didn't know and nobody knew, is that my 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:18.720 partner take footfold redhead light skinned, freckle face dude from 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.520 Compton had been taking boxing lessons because he ain't ben 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.720 getting picked on this a regular ship for his ass 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.559 he was. He had took to and took boxing lessons, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.280 and he did much better than he was supposed to. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.280 I wish you nigger had took a dive, Okay, but 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.800 then nigga did much better he was supposed to and 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.640 when we left, the homies was laughing at their boy. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:44.120 They was laughing and uh. We next day at school, 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.200 one of the girls that lived on parrule within my 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.679 homeroom class. She told me, she's I don't know what 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.680 y'all did an Enterprise Park yesterday. They're talking about kidn't 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.880 shooting anybody in our OLDTC. No problem, gotta go, okay. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.839 My last day is Centennial High School. Now, Huh. I've 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.679 ended up putting a couple of times at Clark's Drugs 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.400 and it wasn't no big deal. And it was just 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.000 me and him though, and by saying what, I'm not 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.679 gonna say nothing because I don't want abody to get 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.600 the misunderstanding. Oh bad. He was a live blah blah 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.000 blah blah blah. Everybody was human, man, Everybody is human, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.720 and everybody had their times when they were they were notorious, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.360 and sometimes they just all right, man, all right, man, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.440 and keep on going. Now, it was one of them times. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.920 He was We were both on the same page. He 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.280 was walking out of the Clark's Drugs. I was walking in. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.280 I saw him. He looked at me. I looked at him. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.480 I recognized him. I was scared. He was like cool cool, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.920 and that was it. They never came to even after dark. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:38.800 They never came around with him. I remember coming to 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.560 even a dark Now, the brothers who came to even 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.920 after dark, they had my back from Pye row was 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.400 yellow Ice. Anybody, no yellow Ice. Yellow Ice ain't no joke. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.240 He was one of my homies, still my homie right 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.280 to this day. And he was one of the brothers 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.080 that when I had, when I had even after dark 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.960 and do those they had my back the whole time. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.319 He said, Man, I love what you're doing, appreciate what 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.720 you're doing, blah blah blah, good for the folks in 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.679 the community. Let me and left my homies. Then we 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.839 got you and that's what kept a little even the 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.040 dark most of the time. That was it. Let's go 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:12.280 back then, because so we're talking about you, man, why 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.960 does continue high school during that time? Now, when did 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.960 you decide to go into the club business? How did 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:22.480 how did this whole transformation? We know what? Going to 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.680 the club business? Man was another fucking accident. Man, I 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.560 was DJ and freshout of center. I'm after left Centennia 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.480 with to Guardino. I got I grated from Guardina High 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.120 School and Uh. When I was going for graduation, they 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.440 asked you what you want to do and you got 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.199 out of high school. They had a little pamphlet come 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.320 around and I checked off radio DJ. I didn't think 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:45.960 I was gonna get it, and I talked funny and 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.520 I believe that studded and ship and I got the 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.719 scholarship to go to broadcast school. By the time I 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.000 got out of high school, disco was in full blast. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.720 By the time I got a broadcast school, Disco was 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.319 in full extra blast. In fact, most of because I 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.280 played in broadcast school was disco records. So when I 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.880 got out of school, was no black discos, only discos 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.880 they had with white folks. Just goes in in uh 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.960 North Hollywood and UH Bird Banking Ship. This is like 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.720 seventy six, seventy seven, seventy six. I got left school 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.240 to seventy five, seventy seventy five the summer seventy five. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.520 I got my broadcast license in seventy six or yeah, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.640 seventy six. Uh. Disco Lionso was born in seventy six. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.760 He was created in the seventy six. And UH, I 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.120 just named myself Disco Lionso because that was the hottest 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.840 thing going at the time. And I started booking myself 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.400 at a lot of different parties mostly wasn't receptions, baby showers, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:44.280 and started doing dances and uh, it was just one 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:45.920 of them things. Man. I got a job at a 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.720 record at a uh at Kenney Shoes over in Compton, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.480 worked there for a while. I got another job at 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.319 the space called Record Shack in Compton over off of 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.719 Waldut and Uh, it was always confusing cause people think 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.920 wal that is all Carson, It's not the pot of 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.400 the thought. I was on on the east side of 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.240 Mington Well, east east side of Central was was Compton, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.400 and I sold records over the phone, me and my 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.160 boy Roger Clayton from uncle James Army. That was one 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.600 of job we had together. That's how we really got tight. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.120 We both worked at this record distributor selling records and 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:23.880 he had the idea. I'm not gonna take credit for 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.440 his idea to do dance as the Alpine Village, but 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.400 I had the sound system. I was a DJ. I 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.600 had a truck, had sound seekers as sound system speakers, 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.880 the whole nine yards. And then you've been to DJ 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.800 and I'll promote the show. Blah blah, blah. And we 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.480 did that ship for a few times and it was 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:43.960 real successful. And one day um, I lived off on 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:49.200 Carlton Avenue off hunt Sewond in Carlton. My MoMA just died. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.560 She died and I was nineteen, and I took over 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.080 our house. My dad had been moving her house and 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.880 nobody would break in and steal ship. I scared the 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.760 motherfucker half the time. And he came to the patty 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.880 at the it was his house technically, and he saw 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.440 me about five six dollars across the bed. I'm counting 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.600 money and ship, but also everybody my neighborhood was selling dope, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.960 and my own man has never been. He ain't never 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.360 supported the dope thing at all. He's shoulnau me up, 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.280 you said the dope blah blah. I got more money 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.600 on my bed and he made last two weeks of 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.680 this job. No, no, pop, this is what's happened. I'm 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.360 doing Alpine Village, and like the daddies of them days, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.920 he came back to check with me see what I 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.400 was doing. He came through Alpine and we was cracking 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.200 that night and he asked me about the business. How 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.080 much was I'm paying for the room and what was 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.440 he doing and blah blah blah. When I gave him 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.680 the business uh plan for Alpine, I thought he was 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.280 paying like seven hundred bucks for one night. Seven hundred 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.080 dollars one night. I damn, wh what what? What? Let 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.920 me talk to my buddy. Well, my daddy and jeff 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.920 Dy got the owns jef Dy's on Alblano Segando. They 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.480 was drinking buddies and jeff Dy had just built the 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:59.920 second floor to his club and uh fo the after hours, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.160 but it wasn't doing that much. And uh, my old 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.720 man took me to me jeff D. I've been doing 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.840 Jeffy all my life, but I never I know him 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.360 as Mr jeff D. I didn't know him as a 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.360 business partner landlord. I know him as the old man 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.520 on the up the hill there. But he took a 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.080 liking to me, and him and my old man sit 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.840 there and got drunk and cut a deal for me 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.160 to take even to Dark. Now I got even to Dark. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.560 I was only gonna get it maybe once or twice 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.600 a week a month. I wasn't trying to be a 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.200 every weekend thing. But that was that was the trick 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.560 bag Okay, if you want it, you gotta take it. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:35.760 Every week Friday and Saturday. Nigga said, what I ain't 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.360 I don't know. My money ain't death strong. But I 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.440 had a backer and she backed me up on the deal, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.960 and uh, we went in there. For the first few weeks. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.200 We were struggling for a minute. But then shortly after that, man, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.400 the word got out that motherfucker jumped off. But yeah, 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.000 I was within within eve, trying to just be a 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:56.360 regular despromotor one two days a week. Um, you know nothing, 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.280 you know, but once two days a month, no big deal. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:06.600 Ended up with a club at only two years old. Yeo, man, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.160 we was charging sometimes we charged you a little ninety 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:14.720 nine cents and I still make two three. We charged 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:21.320 nine said sometimes from from from uh nine thirty and 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.000 at forty five, you couldn't get in the gas station. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.840 You could not get the United gas station. They'd be 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.960 lined up. That dick, the gas station manager, coming a 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.480 few times. Mr William, Could you please have them have 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.600 a guard of somebody curve him so we can get 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.320 to sell gas. It was like that, okay, and uh, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.320 but after nine thirty, after nine thirty, it was five 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.320 whatever the case, may be the key to even at 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.280 the dark success. What wasn't so much the amount of 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.639 money to the turnover we had And I didn't realize 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.480 that to later wrong because the Eve open at nine 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.080 thirty sometimes ten o'clock on the Saturday night, but we 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.480 stayed open till like five or six in the morning, 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.040 so the kids are come in early. I pick up 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.040 a pick up a rack, then a couple of racks 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.800 then and then the after party started. And depending on 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.720 what was going on, if that was a big dance 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.000 or a big concert, I had to after party. You 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.280 bring a ticket STU up to the after parties three dollars. Wow, man, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.920 we was doing fantastic. Man Ship, I was bought out 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.200 of control and then ever sold nothing but some but tickets. Okay, 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.160 let me ask you this, when did you start geting? 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.560 When did the idea for the world players written? Just 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.679 like anything else, man uh, ship starts getting old and 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.720 the Eve started slowing down. Okay, after about three years, 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.000 about two eighty three eighty three, Eve started having like 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.080 you know, other clubs started to happen to blah blah blah. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.760 So I started having ideas on how to keep it, 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.880 keep the excitement coming on. You know, it's like any 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.840 other relationship. You gotta keep it, keep it exciting. So 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.320 I started bringing in the acts all my buddies when 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.280 the music business, so I was able to kind tech. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.639 Russell Simmons, he gave me Curtis, got me Curtiss blow. 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.720 Later on I was kicked my buddy. Other buddy he 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.280 got me or I mean sorry, Russell Simmons got me Curtis. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.800 Then he also had his brother and his partners. They 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.800 was just coming up Run DMC. He gave me Run 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:20.159 DMC for five hundred dollars and playing tickets. So I 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.280 got Run DMC even to dark on a Friday. But 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.439 they sucked around and played Funcle James on me on 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:31.080 the Saturday. That's mad, motherfucker. What pay? I hadn't bought 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.879 the tickets, paid y'all and y'all can work for this. 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.880 My competition the next night and the night that night 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.440 they played it even to dark. Run got this thing 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.840 about dropping microphones and he broke my microphone. That pissed 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:49.360 me off again. So when he picked up my microphone, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:50.600 I'm like, you know what, man, I ain't And then 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.400 they go across the town to play for my enemy 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.720 Chill now, I ain't. I ain't doing this number, man, 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.000 So I just thought I'm gonna make mom goddamn group. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.720 The show was fifteen minutes long. I paid five hundred 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.720 dollars about three plane tickets. They were they wasn't that 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.560 well known yet. They was cool, but they wasn't that 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.480 well known. And that the fact that he broke my 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.320 microphone and played for Uncle Jams Army. Right after that, 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.200 I was like, dude, I could do this my damn self. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.000 And that's been my attitude all my life. I do 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.640 this myself. So so one of the most pivotal rest 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:25.960 colost routes in history was bird Phone. Yeah, I was. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:28.560 I was mad. I wasn't mad at him. I just 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:29.879