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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode the Gangster Chronicles, and we got

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Speaker 1: a friend of the show on again. You guys have

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Speaker 1: seen him a couple of times on the show. Very

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Speaker 1: well received, very important part of the West Coast hippop Um.

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Speaker 1: I would almost be remissed to say that without him

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Speaker 1: it might not be a lot of the Doctor dres

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Speaker 1: and snoop dogs and these different kind of figures man,

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Speaker 1: and great start landscape over the last twenty thirty years.

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Speaker 1: And so Cat, what's happening? What's up? But you Ben,

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Speaker 1: I'm hanging out man, it's doing what I do, just

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Speaker 1: doing what you do. Man. You know what we were

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Speaker 1: talking man before the show started. Man, but just about

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Speaker 1: I would say, the good old days of Compton Man.

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Speaker 1: And of course you you grew up on a rear

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Speaker 1: rack side of time, sir. Let's talk about a little

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Speaker 1: bit man. How did you avoid the pitfalls and becoming

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Speaker 1: a gag bank? Well, you know when I grew up

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Speaker 1: in Compton man, Um, Well, I grew up this outside

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Speaker 1: of competence keeping one hoted. I grew up in answers

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Speaker 1: off of mainly else the under and uh, I didn't

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Speaker 1: qualify to be a gangster at that time. I was

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Speaker 1: a skinny kid. I was a skinny Catholic school kid.

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Speaker 1: Back then, you had to have the qualifications. You had

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Speaker 1: to be able to thump. As they say, um. But

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Speaker 1: because I'll let me turn this myth. But because um

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Speaker 1: and I got to high school, I always had access

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Speaker 1: with the homies. So every time we want to go

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Speaker 1: to want to go to a dance, Captain on the

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Speaker 1: Park or something like that, either I drove and they

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Speaker 1: rolled back with me, or I take we wrote route

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Speaker 1: road to school together. So back then, your homies looked

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Speaker 1: out for you. If you wasn't what the what what

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Speaker 1: the business that you know that makes you, nobody jumped

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Speaker 1: on you. And even I had fights with it. I

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Speaker 1: had fights like everybody else. But because I wasn't um,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't one of them that I wasn't on the

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Speaker 1: team per secon Back then it was about quantity quality,

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Speaker 1: not quantity, okay. And we didn't have the numbers in

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Speaker 1: my neighborhood. So the number of came to gangs, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a big gang, wasn't a big number. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I was just able to do it. Plus my old

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Speaker 1: man was well respected in the Cuban. My mom was

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Speaker 1: respecting in the community. And back then, my mom she

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Speaker 1: didn't run my neighborhood per se, but she had a

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Speaker 1: lot of influence and she just didn't take ship. And

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Speaker 1: she wouldn't let me hang out in certain places. And

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Speaker 1: people knew if they saw me coming at a certain time, man,

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Speaker 1: hear the mama's mouth. And that was real shipped back there.

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Speaker 1: That was real ship. So when did you infactuation with music? How? Man?

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Speaker 1: I've always been infactuated in music. My daddy from Mississippi,

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Speaker 1: so he listened to a lot of blues, Ray Charles,

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Speaker 1: I had a jazz influence. My sister, I have an

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Speaker 1: older sister. She was into the R and B. So penning.

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Speaker 1: Who would call you within was penning what you was

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Speaker 1: exposed to. So I was exposure everything. As a kid,

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Speaker 1: I learned the same Three Dog Night and Janice Jopplin. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jane Brown, dramatic. So it's always been something for me

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Speaker 1: always exposed different types of music, and it's just, uh,

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Speaker 1: we have a dance in the gym. So we're like

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Speaker 1: twelve thirteen years old dancing in the gym. That was

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Speaker 1: It was a natural progression. Okay. So now during that

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Speaker 1: were there a game, but their a game presence of

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Speaker 1: these dances. You know, it might have been a little

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Speaker 1: some cats they would do. He would get jammed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: stas I was sixteen years old. That was probably my

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Speaker 1: Roughlan's experience tooking them. Tookie and Jamal had just uh

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Speaker 1: and they had the thing at the had a big

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Speaker 1: gas concert at the Colosseum, and the deal was, uh,

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Speaker 1: come on the dand on on the field the party

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Speaker 1: because I think either the Raiders in the round, I

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Speaker 1: don't know who it was back then the football team

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Speaker 1: of that of that era had a game the next day,

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Speaker 1: and no matter what happened, as soon as the band

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Speaker 1: People run down to the damn stage and started, you know,

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Speaker 1: at one point in time, Jesse Jackson and they didn't

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Speaker 1: put this in the in the video. I was there

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Speaker 1: what they said, I was there. Jesse Jackson told the

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Speaker 1: this right here. And there's two things I learned that day.

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Speaker 1: I learned something that day. One the Crypts hadn't didn't

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Speaker 1: their jackets for getting stolen, they was joining the cript

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Speaker 1: They was doing the honorary crypt volunteer work that day.

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Speaker 1: think of like seventy to seventy three, seventy three, So

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Speaker 1: figure I grew up with an area. When they were

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what kryp stood for, the news

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Speaker 1: cript Us carried kanes and ship because they was crippled.

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Speaker 1: Or then then then the brothers came up with a

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Speaker 1: came up with an acronym like community Reparations in Progress

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Speaker 1: that was That was it. That was That's what it became.

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Speaker 1: But that kind of went out to wonder at some

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Speaker 1: I remember when Homeboy got stomped out at this at

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Speaker 1: I remember all that. I was a kid. I'm readings

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Speaker 1: Donald Garrett and a couple of the cats. While I

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Speaker 1: We were high sign it and parru boys had a

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Speaker 1: Motherfucker's going And he was talking specifically to one of

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Speaker 1: my partners, Andre tall red head brother light skiing Freckles

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Speaker 1: We tried to walk past him. They wasn't going for it.

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Speaker 1: So they form the jumpers. They form the jumpers. My

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Speaker 1: went fishing together every day. Can he claim when he

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Speaker 1: He said, y'all can't jump on them because he backed

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Speaker 1: then the gangsters was real. They was real. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: in the ship, but he's like, hey, man, y'all can't

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Speaker 1: my boy and Mr Garrett decided to go head up.

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Speaker 1: What I didn't know and nobody knew, is that my

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Speaker 1: Compton had been taking boxing lessons because he ain't ben

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Speaker 1: getting picked on this a regular ship for his ass

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Speaker 1: he was. He had took to and took boxing lessons,

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Speaker 1: and he did much better than he was supposed to.

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Speaker 1: I wish you nigger had took a dive, Okay, but

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Speaker 1: then nigga did much better he was supposed to and

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Speaker 1: when we left, the homies was laughing at their boy.

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Speaker 1: They was laughing and uh. We next day at school,

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Speaker 1: homeroom class. She told me, she's I don't know what

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Speaker 1: y'all did an Enterprise Park yesterday. They're talking about kidn't

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Speaker 1: shooting anybody in our OLDTC. No problem, gotta go, okay.

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Speaker 1: My last day is Centennial High School. Now, Huh. I've

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Speaker 1: the voice are so big. You think he was, you know,

426
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: a much bigger dude, and uh it wasn't. Ntil he

427
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: started rapping until the ship, but he just like okay, cool, alright, chill,

428
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 1: that's crazy man. Curtis blows shut up Curtis. We were

429
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: to get him on the show too much love good dude,

430
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: Good dude. So when we talk about man, now you

431
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: have this idea to feel just the world class wrecking crew.

432
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: Did you go want to recruit each member of personally? Nope,

433
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: they just fell in my lap. They just fell in

434
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: my lap. Uh Yellow came first. I had another guy

435
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: out of from the neighborhood DJ with me, Dr Rock.

436
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: He left, moved to Texas. Uh Yellow came in right

437
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: but the following week, Uh never left uh clientele. I

438
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: met him and at the Even Too Dark um uh contest.

439
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: He wanted contest the Even Too Dark. I brought him

440
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: on the team and dre He came in as a

441
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: customer and uh got up on the turn tables and

442
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: did a mix that was so dope. I'm like, dude,

443
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: you need to stick around for a minute, and eventually

444
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: joined the team as well. Wow, that's crazy, man, So

445
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: let's go back. You're missing somebody. Dr Rock. We're about

446
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: to break. I'm about to educate some people in some things.

447
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: Dr Rock was real instrumental in the career of DC Texas,

448
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: and that's they ran across each other market correct. Um,

449
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: we were record crew, blew up in uh l a

450
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: with doing shows in Texas. We get to Texas, Dr

451
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: rockets over there, Rocket with Tom joining on them on

452
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: the on the morning on the mix show and uh

453
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: ship we meet. He got a group, he got a

454
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: rap group now called the fel of Fresh Crew, and

455
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: shortly after that Dr Rock and the Feel of Fresh

456
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: grewp came came to the studio to do some Foredre

457
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: to do some beach with him and everything I know

458
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: he was on. He was on roofless ship. You know.

459
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: In fact, um, some of the ships I forgot Doc

460
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 1: had remind me of this ship because when he did

461
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: this documentary he called me to be in this documentary. Nay,

462
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: am I your documentary? And nigger what's you too? Oh?

463
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: No ship? You're right? So yeah it's all good. Dr

464
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: rock Man so you got client, tell you got Dr

465
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: Trad Yeah, yeah, Well you know he came, he came on.

466
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: He came recommended from one of the guys that work

467
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: for me. But I had yellow yellow with a bad

468
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: motherfucker you know, and I wouldn't. I wasn't no slout.

469
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: We had a whole crew was DJ's unknown me Yellow.

470
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 1: Uh clientele we all with DJ. I didn't need them

471
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: more goddamn DJ's so but when he came in, I

472
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: don't And to this day, if you if you water

473
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: boarded my ass, I couldn't tell you how you ended

474
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: upon my turn tables because he got up there. There

475
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: was an unknown gave him permission or what. But he

476
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: got on the turntables and did some ship, and uh,

477
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: the ship was so dope. I had to how that. Anybody,

478
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: you know what's happening with that? Blah blah blah. We

479
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: got to kick in it and uh to come on

480
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: back with From that time, I was doing underground mixes

481
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: and ship. I was doing a lot of bootlegs UH

482
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: called v rocks, which is basically UH mixed records. It

483
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: was mixed records. Look look him up on YouTube. I

484
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: was doing Z rocks, cut ups, scratch parties, UM, all

485
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: kinds of ship and we were selling them at the

486
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: swat Meats and swap meets. V I p s all

487
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: of them, and Uh I was looking for somebody to

488
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: do some ship. Yellow was doing most of minere I

489
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: started working for Unknown, and then he left Unknown to

490
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: start working for me doing mixes and that was the

491
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: reason why I hired him because to do the mixes.

492
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: And after Run Deep See Them came were like this,

493
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: I want to go legit. And after we made our

494
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: first record Slice, That's crazy, man. I was the market

495
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: was the market receiptence to your first single? You know what, dude?

496
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: It was amazing man, because um, not even knowing it.

497
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: I was always being in here, dude. I said this

498
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: ship and I mean this with all my heart. I

499
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know why God chose the path of me that

500
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: he's chosen. I mean, my last job in nineteen seventy nine,

501
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: I saw records over the phone when I left and

502
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: they fired my ass. Finally, the only thing I took

503
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: with my goddamn call list. So when I started making bootlegs,

504
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: I knew all the record stores. So he was making

505
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: more money, dude, because I think sometimes I got in

506
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: on the mixtape games, kind of like as its Death

507
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: you remember it, kind of like the death reto. Yeah.

508
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: I was dealing with maybe three or four distributors overseason.

509
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: When I tell you I was having my way. I

510
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: was having my way. I was making maybe anywhere from

511
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: eighty two hundred fifty thousand dollars a month. Okay, like seriously,

512
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: just a whole bunch of stuff I was distributing at

513
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: that time. Dog found stuff that's my dads. And we

514
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: first got back to get a shout to my boy big,

515
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: and we asked some stuff going. I had cast some

516
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: Japan and Pa and me ce d damn right, and

517
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: they don't understand that these dolls and see these they

518
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: got a copy and check the ten and eleven thousand dollars.

519
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on. So I just can imagine

520
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: the type of money he was making. I tell people

521
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: all the time, if I had a damn time machine,

522
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: I wished I could, Oh, man, come on duing what

523
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: I know now, I would be so rich. It wasn't nothing,

524
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: man uh. In the very beginning we're talking about eighty

525
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: two eighty three, records were still a ship. Twelve inches

526
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: was still a ship. Um. I just met Steviano. I was,

527
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: I was out in my rounds and I ran across

528
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: this Asian dude. Dot on Pico. Pico used to be

529
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: the record street, Okay, it was called one stops on Pico,

530
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: up and down Pico, and I would go here, drop

531
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: off fifty, drop off a hardy drop off fifty drop

532
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: off two hunted and I'm in this one store I

533
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: forgot the name of South Southumpton and uh, I see

534
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: this Asian dude talking to Uh. Yeah's Asian dude talking

535
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: to this cat behind the kind of George, my guy

536
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: want to come to see. So I'm you know, I'm

537
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: doing a bootleg thing. I'm like, I was, like, I'm

538
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: selling dope. I don't trust nobody because the bottom of

539
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: the bottom of all records that says, uh, copyright is

540
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: a federal defense some ship like that. I'm thinking everybody

541
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: the police. So I'm waiting. He's coming over here, man,

542
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: I said, Now, I wait, I wait, so uh he

543
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: finally said, bring me the records. So I Brad George

544
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: the records and Steve says, I've been looking for you.

545
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Almost took off run and nig what you looking for me? Fu,

546
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was. He said, I run

547
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: the swap meet at the Rodeo swap meet, and I

548
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: know the Rodeo swat meat. I had bought records from him.

549
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: Didn't just didn't recognize him, and Steve became one of

550
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: my major customers. It wouldn't be shipped for me. Man.

551
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: Back in that day, I had a van no seats

552
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: in it had a bed. That's all I needed with

553
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: a bed and from curtains. And you know why, it's

554
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: all I needed a bed and curtains. Right Um, I'd

555
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: go go down to Bill Smith Custom Records in al Fegando.

556
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: I had to pick up a thousand records for Cletus.

557
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: The v I p I pick up a couple of hundred.

558
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: This number I had had at one time, I had

559
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: like ten different numbers. I would literally the van would

560
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: then to be would be loaded down. They have a

561
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: pull a pull a fucking uh pull up the fucking

562
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: a palette and the fucking forklift and I have to

563
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: load all that ship. And then I had to be

564
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: turning slow and driving slow because my ship was standing

565
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: dragging the ground. By a time I went to see Cletus,

566
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: by a time Uh Steve came by the house, I

567
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: go see Calvin. My van was up, my pockets was

568
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: fat in the motherfucker. I didn't want to go to

569
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: the club. Ship. That's how much mon I'd make on

570
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. I'd make so much money selling records

571
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: to the we I didn't want to go to the club.

572
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: That's how ship. That's how the ship was flowing back then.

573
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: Was definitely thick back then. Now, as far as Dr

574
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Craig thoes, you know what I answer, support is about

575
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Fraid wound up and coming probably the most iconic producer

576
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: in the history of hip Bob. I don't even know

577
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: if they could be debated. When did you realize that

578
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: he had something going for himself that was out of

579
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: the ordinary? Kind um when he was when he was here,

580
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: I knew he was kind of different because he thought

581
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: he's stayed in the studio. He didn't. I thought he

582
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: I think he'd be gone. He be back his sleep

583
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: and sleep at the board or something. Ship. Um, he

584
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: had a dedication and he had a drive that I

585
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: had never seen before. I mean, he's like the first

586
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: producer that I really worked with on the regular basis,

587
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: and he was the first cat that really wanted to

588
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: learn how to do this ship. I mean he would

589
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: play with keyboards and drum machines and I've been I

590
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: bought all the ship, but you want those fucking seat

591
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: no saying no speakers A true story. I bought keyboards,

592
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: drum machines, eight oh eights to hunt it's twelve uh

593
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: scratch turntables. But I never really funk with this ship

594
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: because when I got this ship, the niggas like get

595
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: out of the way. That was That was the attitude

596
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: if I got it. DMX had a whole DMX Oberheim,

597
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: d m X, d m X drum machine, DSX uh

598
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: seker O B eight um keyboard, and them niggas were

599
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: not like there was almost they can They would let

600
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: be touched the ship. I paid for it, but they wouldn'

601
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: let me touch it. Him between him and Yellow. They

602
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: were so enthusiastic about this ship. And that was something

603
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: that kept me going because I felt my money was

604
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: it was an investment. Okay. Nobody was trying to teach

605
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: us how to do this ship. There were no classes

606
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: at you know, at nowhere, nowherether I knew of that

607
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: touched you. How to run a drum machine. Drum machine

608
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: was brand fucking new. What the class learning the drum machine?

609
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: And what? No places? You know you body come out

610
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: in the guitars in it. And they had classes for

611
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: this ship. You had to learn your own here to

612
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: read the fucking man, you want to figure this out? Huh,

613
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: you're learning your sucking out. Man. When you were telling

614
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: you that was like reading something. The manual was most

615
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: of that ship was then was converted from Chinese to

616
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: fucking American, which means it was a lot of times

617
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: it was myth. It was misquoted and ship and you

618
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: had to call called the fucking company to find out

619
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: what how to do something. They they tell you, I'm sorry,

620
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: the fucking the manual is was mistranslated. That's real ship

621
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: we had to do. Named Daniel sofer Um, he was

622
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: the first one that did. He did uh juice the

623
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: surgery and he was charging like a honey fiftied dollars

624
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: per song to program them songs. But dred did all

625
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: the god didn't work And I'm like, well what am

626
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: I paying him for? I buy a system and the

627
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: drede program the ship. That's basically what it was. Even

628
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: to Dark gave me the money to finance crew Cut records.

629
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: A simple as that. The money I made the Youth

630
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: to the Dark, I just flipped it over the crew

631
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: cut records, you know. And that's how that's how the ship,

632
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: how the ship transitioned everything. So you kind of became

633
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: like the kind of mentor around town if you want

634
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: to get in the Rigord business. Everybody would come to

635
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: see everybody, because see, it wasn't just about me having

636
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: the studio a club. I mean, think about this. I've

637
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: been I've been in the same house the nineteen eighty five. Okay,

638
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: it's the same house that everything you saw au straight

639
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: out of Compton, same place. Okay. I had another house

640
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: on My first house is on Carlton at the studio

641
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: back there. That's what we did all the traffic jams

642
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: and ship for k D had a four track studio

643
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: back there. Then I got a twelve track UM and

644
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: then we did we did our first album demos over there.

645
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: We got our first record deal with Epic. I moved

646
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: over here and we did the same same process. But

647
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: because I knew all the swap meets, I knew all

648
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: the v I P s, I knew all the record stores,

649
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I knew um uh Greg Mac. I had a club,

650
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: I was given dances. I was doing. I was doing

651
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: a lot of shit, okay, and that because I didn't

652
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: have a job, I could do a lot of ship.

653
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: The eve after dark Dudo skate Land gave me the

654
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: money and the freedom too. Baby had all we go

655
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: on to do what then? I need to do. I'd

656
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: make money on the weekends and come back here in

657
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: the studio and do some ship on the bottom ship

658
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: during a week And that's what we fucking did. And

659
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: it just, um, it was something, man, that was so

660
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: unique at that time. Uh. It just made me a

661
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: magnet for everybody that want to do something. Cause when

662
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: nobody else, given nobody else new shot. And the last thing,

663
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: the last thing I've ever been as a motherfucker hate.

664
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: Anybody knows me. I'm the most open hearted motherfucking around.

665
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: It's probably why I'm still sitting up here right now.

666
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: That's real today, you know. I mean you had a

667
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: conversation one night about a month from our cold because

668
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: I was watching her, you know, her story, and they

669
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: asked you in the movie, and I felt that short

670
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: pantrayal was somewhere kind of like, I'm like, that's not

671
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: how that went down. Man. Now let's talk about for

672
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: a minute. You discovered did you discover her in the story?

673
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, now, Man, I met last and right

674
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: back here this fucking studio. I met her right back

675
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: here in this fucking studio. It was a big as

676
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: mixing board right here. I just got back off off

677
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: the two of me and yelling at them and just

678
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: get the like four or five dates outside of California.

679
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Just got off an airplane and uh, I had a date.

680
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: I called my girl from the airport. Hey, I'm coming

681
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: to the pad. I'll be there in a minute. Me

682
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: and my nuts to be coming. Okay with one of

683
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: the dates when had time to meet, make no friends,

684
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about anyway, Um, but homeboy

685
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: caught me as I was unpacking my bag. Whatever the

686
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: case we do. The name of smooth, I ain't seen

687
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: him sits then name was smooth Man. I got this girl,

688
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: you gotta here, you got due now today I got

689
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: a come on man, come on, please please, you gonna

690
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: get come on man, fuck it, fuck it brought her

691
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: over here. She stood right over here, right here, and

692
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't say ship while he was talking. I'm like, dude,

693
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: you know what, just some bullshit. I got to go.

694
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: And she stood and she moved over here and started singing,

695
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: and my god, damn, and then she then uh, she

696
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: stopped singing and started talking. Goddamn, what the fund happened?

697
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: And that was what that was it. It wasn't uh

698
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: me and the studio. Hi, I'm grand Master Alonzo. I'm

699
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: here to buy some socks. Motherfucker's. They've never seen me

700
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: with no socks on. Was being doing Miami Vice for

701
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Miami Vice. Was doing Miami Vice anyway. Uh when I

702
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: saw that movie, man, I was like, get motherfucker's. I

703
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: want you all to spend a couple of dollars and consulted.

704
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's just asked the nigga a question or two and

705
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: tell the story remotely. Right. Yeah, she worked at uh

706
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: think I think it was Make Company or Jason one

707
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: of them stories in the Fox. He was small. She

708
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: did work there, and I would drop her off at

709
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: work from time to time. But I wasn't in the

710
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: shopping looking for and I never smoked no cigarettes. And

711
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: I never ever ever had one of my female singers

712
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: on the bus coming to those studio. Man, I'd go

713
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: get up and drave fat fat somebody gonna get him,

714
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: and no girls, somebody gonna be on the bus. I

715
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: don't leave in that ship. I'm outside smoking stick and

716
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: betch waiting on the show. Up. She late the funk

717
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: out here with that ship. That's crazy, man. I'm glad,

718
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to clear that up. As I

719
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: told you, I want to talk to you about. That's

720
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: his monster. If you've seen this stuff, I saw that

721
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: ship man. Wait wait wait, I didn't give a funk.

722
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: They paid me a big ass fat check to use

723
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: turn off lights. That motherfucker. I'm like Cat Williams. They

724
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: wanted me to make me an asshole give him a check.

725
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll feel you, big dog, I'll fig you. So,

726
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, going back to trade man. So he pretty

727
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: much got to start hear me yellow beause like you

728
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: see people sleep on yellow. Yellow wasn't yeah, y'all know what,

729
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: don't joke man, y'all, there was no joke, y'ather was

730
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: your old g dude. I would I would put Yell

731
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: up against Egypt, your love for any day of the week.

732
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: And Uncle Jam through me would not take the motherfucking

733
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: back dad. What nobody say? They wouldn't take the motherfucking

734
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: back yere. So let me ask this man this song

735
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: like me, who jams are we did? They have a

736
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: slave roberty to daddy, lets you have your turn on here.

737
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: But so y'all had to be jams army. You know,

738
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't so much of beef. It was like a

739
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: love hate relationship, man being the dude started off together.

740
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: We started off the records stractive I got him. Well,

741
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: let me let me tell you the whole story. I

742
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: was looking at them for a way to buy records wholesales.

743
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to start my my DJ business. What records?

744
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: It was kicking my ass. You had to have two

745
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: of them back then, so they were six five six

746
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: dollars a piece. I'm like for a swell and like that,

747
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: what album I need? You know I need two of them.

748
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: I can't afford that, So I'm trying to find a

749
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: way to buy the records wholesale. I saw adding the paper,

750
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: new record store coming in town, a distributor. Fucking I'm

751
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: gonna call the motherfucker's up and see who I can

752
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: buy some records hohlesale. They wouldn't sell me the records wholesale.

753
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: But the dude to answer the phone his name was

754
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Alonzo too, So we kicked it. We kicked. We hit

755
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: it off big time. Nig off me a job. Why

756
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: are you missing right meet my ass? I said, no, man,

757
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't want no job because I was working at

758
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Kenny Shoes right there. On Rose, Kansas Central. I had

759
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: a good deal because I get off every Friday and

760
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Saturday at six o'clock. Gave me plenty enough time to

761
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: get my truck loaded up and go do my gigs. Now,

762
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to suck it up, so I turned

763
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Roger onto the job. Roger from Uncle James Army. He

764
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: just got fired from v I p in uh in

765
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: the in the cross the mall, so I turned him

766
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: on to the job. He got the job. So a

767
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later they had the spot in the

768
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: in the in the warehouse and Uh during the daytime,

769
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: I didn't work recostracting. I mean, Kenny do the daytimes.

770
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: On the weekend, I do that, so we worked working together.

771
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: Later on they offered me a job. I had a job.

772
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: I had a job for cal Trans on the freeway

773
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards, and I didn't want the motherfucker,

774
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: but I was gonna take it because I had a kid.

775
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: My man was all my ass and ship, and I'm like, funk,

776
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do this, go down to cow Trans.

777
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: I told God us as I see Oman, I ain't

778
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: I don't want this mothering. I don't want this job.

779
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: But if I gotta go, I go. But if if

780
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I see a way out, I'm taking it. And sure

781
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: enough and I got ready to go. It gave me

782
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: my shirt, my helmet, my orange shirt, every fucking thing.

783
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: And when it came down to the last piece of

784
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: paper for the insurance, I couldn't start without the insurance.

785
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: To me, that was my old man. I went back

786
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: to Record Shack. SA y'all still with me? Keep this job?

787
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: I say cool, they say cool. So Monday morning, after

788
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: I told my daddy I wasn't going to record record Shack,

789
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: he cust me the funk out, Cust me out. I've

790
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: been I've been this little homie all my life. Oh

791
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: man ever called me down but champ all my life.

792
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: But now I'm a dumb motherfucker because you got a

793
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: kid in the house and you can work for some records.

794
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: Fun that you're stupid motherfucker. But keep it one hunted.

795
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: I took the job at record Shack. That morning. I

796
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: got the Record shack. Roger wasn't working there. There's fire.

797
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: Just asked that Friday. I didn't know. I didn't know.

798
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: They gave me his desk, his phone, his list of

799
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: call first motherfucker called me a record shack was Roger.

800
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: I answered the phone, man, how you got mine? What

801
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: are you about? Death? Man going on? I'm not doing

802
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I have no idea.

803
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: What are you at? Man? Man? They fire men? Are

804
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: you working? You with the motherfuckers? You with the mother

805
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: No man, nig I didn't know. I didn't. He think

806
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm on some backstabb and ship and nick I didn't

807
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: do that. So a few months later they brought the

808
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: nigger back here and we was cool for a minute,

809
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: but he never forgot that ship. He always felt up

810
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: doubled back on him or something. Five five people that

811
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: day and hid six more. And while while we said

812
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: record shack, we got back together again. While we were

813
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: we both in the sales room now, and that's what

814
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: he came up with the idea about doing Alpine Village.

815
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: But see, by that time, I was already doing good

816
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: as a DJ. And here here was my problem was

817
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: because I got a brand new van this nineteen seventy

818
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: seventies seven. I got a nineteen seventy six van. Everybody

819
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: knew I had my owld house. I don't know how

820
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: I got to motherucker. They just knew I had my

821
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: own house. I'm clean every day because back then niet

822
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: when they get to a Heart Soul shoes and I

823
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: got on Heart Soul shoes and Knick Knick shirts and

824
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: seamless pants, and she because I'm in their condition, and

825
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: I could come to work clean and go home clean.

826
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: I ain't got to go home. I just go straight

827
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: to my girl house. I just go to my house

828
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: with my girl waiting. I mean, whatever the case may be.

829
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: And uh, then we were topped it all off. Came

830
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: time to get paid. We got paid. Every Wednesday. I'd

831
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: go to I'd go in the warehouse and pull a

832
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: bunch of records, give him to the lady to pay roll,

833
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: and she might give me twenty dollars. I was only

834
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: making a hundred and sixties. Some dollars bring home, okay,

835
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: But I didn't give a ship because if I can

836
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: make it to Friday, I'm gonna get hunday and fifty

837
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: Friday night for doing the dance. I'm gonna get another

838
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: hundad fifty for doing a party on Saturday. If I

839
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: do a baby shower, that's another hundred. So I'm making

840
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: three every weekend. Because they nobody's got no competitions. I

841
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: ain't got no competition. I'm busy to my fucking Plus,

842
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: my partner's daddy on the print shop made a printing

843
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: right there on un A tenth and uh Main Street.

844
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: I would go through the wedding reception ship who getting

845
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: married called people up, hey man. And because I had

846
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: a broadcast license, that was my ship. I'm a licensed

847
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: DJ on Alonzo Williams. Just go along on licensed DJ block.

848
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: I stayed busy, so I need a little record shack buddy.

849
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: He was just pretty much keep popped off my ass.

850
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: And just like he said, they fired my ass after

851
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: about six seven months. And but by that time Alpine

852
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: was cracking and I just made up my mind. I said,

853
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll never put another motherfucker between me

854
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: and my livelihood again. Funk that ship getting piste off.

855
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes if you got a mean to get ship done,

856
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: that I get piste off. I fucking motherfucker. Okay, I

857
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: don't give a ship. And when they fired my ass,

858
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: I was so glad I had a job because I

859
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: had a car note, I had a van. My van

860
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: wasn't paid for. I had to pay that band note

861
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: and I had a kid, and they gave me about

862
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars. You know, back then they hold a

863
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: check and pay you a vacation and ship. And they

864
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: gave me a boy seven hundred bucks. And about a

865
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: month later I opened Eve at the Doctor. I ain't

866
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: ever had a job since then. So I want to

867
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: go back then before. You don't want to run out

868
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: of times. I want to make sure we talked about

869
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: all of this land. So phrase in the studio pretty

870
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: much learned to do what he did, to do what

871
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: the man does on your equipment. This was Drey's um

872
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: music school, his production school. This was everything. This was

873
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: everybody's man. Look. THEE Barnes was here every day. Her

874
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: partner of the group Body and Soul lived there. She

875
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: was in the room from the Rose, in the room

876
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: from me. The Barnes was here every day. Um coolio,

877
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: Um young broke easy driving a fucking se Lukie Samarrai

878
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: his son Louie for five years old. Um, the Body

879
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: can sould be over here rehearsing. DJ Pool would be

880
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: here before he made any kind of ship. Uh. Shortly

881
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: after that came MC eight and Chill, and there were

882
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: some gangster straight up gangsters out of sucking uh fucking Compton.

883
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: Shortly after that, Leila was here with Above the Law.

884
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean many people out of Compton ain't been through

885
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: the studio. Let me ask you this, now, you had

886
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: all of the people who come. Have you ever thought

887
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: the thing? Man? You know you had one of the

888
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: first major recordar deals with every right, Yeah, why don't

889
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: you just take all them dudes? Well, understand this, dude,

890
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: see that. Here's the problem. Dot. I took ci A

891
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: to Epic marking. Arnold was my my executive producer brother

892
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: behind the c I A ice Cube was the Jinks

893
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: ice Cube and k D Kid disaster. They I got

894
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: them signed before Record Crew got signed. They got a

895
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: single deal on Epic. Okay, the problem was Doc the

896
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: caliber of people I was fucking with. I'm working with

897
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: Larkin Arnold. These dudes got in double a CP Awards. Man,

898
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm working with Joe Buzzby. Joe Buzzby's brother in law

899
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: was the one of broad cameo to Eve after Dark.

900
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: Joe Buzzby gave me cameo to come to Eve after

901
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: Dark to set Eve after Dark. Off. I knew Joe

902
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Buzby like I know you. Okay, So I'm from Compton, Dude,

903
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: how do I take a group called Nigga's Attitude to

904
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: Joe Buzzby in Century City? Tell me how I do that?

905
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: I got a group called Nigga's Attitudes. They're gonna throw

906
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: me out the twenty second floor. Man, it wasn't the ship.

907
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: The motherfucker's thinking. It wasn't that kind of time. Yet,

908
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: even with priority, all the ship that they had to

909
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: go through, these brothers wasn't gonna let them do that

910
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: like that. We couldn't even say dude. We couldn't even

911
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: say ass. We had to go back in the studio

912
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: on one of our records called um house Calls. We

913
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: did house calls and just infected me, insinuated I'm gonna

914
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: whoop your ass. We had to go back and edit it.

915
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: All you can hear is the okay. So the whole

916
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: fucking record industry was totally different then, man, it was

917
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: totally different. We got our record deal. Now once the

918
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: niggas blew up, everybody was calling me and you can

919
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: get me, and you get me on the drake. I

920
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: got two grand if you wanted, you can get hold

921
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: over here. But they weren't gonna take that chance. He

922
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: was corporate dudes, corporate, corporate and corporate black corporate music

923
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: industry was not gonna be the one to break a

924
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: group like in w A. It was bitches and hold

925
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: come on, see the lord's tuck about having the field day,

926
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: but they add one priority. Speaking of and d bars Man,

927
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: who were your first thoughts when that situation happened with them?

928
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: You know they had the whole Dude, I and talked

929
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: to d before that. She didn't even jumped off. She

930
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: was thought she was scared because she didn't edit that ship.

931
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: I think she whatever would happened, whatever happened, I think

932
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: she interviewed Dre them first and they started talking ship

933
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: and Cube saw it and said some ship or it

934
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: might have been vice versa. Whatever whatever came out, it

935
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: was reversed to make it more fucked up. But no

936
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: matter what happened, she wasn't the one that did it. Okay,

937
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: on the internet today, the same she didn't do today.

938
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: Same she did played edit motherfucker's against each other. Okay, Um,

939
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: she did not set it up that way. She didn't

940
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: interview with one group. Did The interview was with with

941
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: somebody else and uh even then let them see it

942
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: and let qube see it, and he had a chance

943
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: to disch them before without you know, whatever the case

944
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: may be, and that's what piste him off. Okay, but

945
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: I was surprised me because everybody, everybody would would be

946
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: at my house on a regular basis my house or

947
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: motherfucking house party. I saw him get upset a couple

948
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: of times because he had a couple of crazy ones,

949
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: but I never see he put hands on nobody. Now, yeah,

950
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: I think sometimes man, you know the fact, like you said,

951
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: somebody going to make a movie and they can just

952
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: to tell his side and do all that and pilishment.

953
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: You know that that's almost goes beyond the villagement some

954
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: of the things you doing these movies right here right

955
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: you know. Um, I heard something, but I never I

956
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: never went because again contrary to popular belief. Yeah, but

957
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: damn what they say in Stralia content michel story, we

958
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: didn't drink and smoke about this motherfucker back then. Well,

959
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: nobody when the alcohol around this motherfucker never never ever

960
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: ever wasn't because they couldn't. They just didn't. They was

961
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: all understand this. Everybody was young, dret he was like

962
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: maybe eighteen. Okay, he couldn't even drink legally at that time.

963
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: If he if he had been trying to drink around me,

964
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: I detected his ass because you're too young. It's my house.

965
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: You can't do certainly in my house. I was that.

966
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: I was that big brother. I was that dude. Okay,

967
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: the other I never smoked to drink shit. Okay. We

968
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: wasn't even a big factor that we had kind of

969
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: played out, dude, I mean, we weren't even a big

970
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: deal back then. It talk about the eighties, right before crack.

971
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: My boy, my neighborhood, My boy been thinking were here

972
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: thinking we're like a motherfucker. But he it wasn't that.

973
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't it was different kind of ship. It wasn't

974
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: as it was like. It wasn't. It wasn't chronic. It

975
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: wasn't um. It hadn't played out, but it was. It

976
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: was really not as big a deal as it is

977
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: right now. Plus it was a big It was much

978
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: a much much bigger deal to be caught with. The

979
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: ship was worth the house. It was like a dick's

980
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: upstill so um and I didn't even see no forty

981
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: ounces around here, un till I got with the my

982
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: youngsters till eight and uh eight Chill and uh and

983
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: the eighth Chill and Sound Control mob My introduced me

984
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: my backyard, my studio, the forty ounces, because when I

985
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: take my trash out, it was all glass. Okay, it

986
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: was all glass, all of them, all of them. He'll

987
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: tell you about that ship. Okay, they were you know,

988
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: that's what they did. But again because I carried my

989
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: ship a certain way, I had bloods and cryptie on

990
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: a regular basis, and I never had a I've never

991
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: had a fight. Both shootings in my patner and that ship. Okay,

992
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: they all respected what I was trying to do. And

993
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: that's the same thing. Even the dark. It was always

994
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: respect there. You give me mine, I'm gonna give you yours, okay,

995
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: And that's what That's what that's and always been my

996
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: my calling card. I called Captain Mr so On. So

997
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: right to this day, I ain't got too but I

998
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: just do, Okay. So motherfucker's respected what I was, what

999
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: I was doing. They understood what I was doing back

1000
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: in the studio, and they may not come to the club,

1001
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: but they knew at my house it was it was

1002
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: a no fly zone. Easy would come here after he

1003
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: blew up and he'd be at some girls house all night,

1004
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: and lives said he would have been at the studio

1005
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: or something like that, and had him too big as

1006
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: some moins to meet him over here because he knew

1007
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: he would come over here. And when nobody gonna sunk

1008
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: with him, what's the big mother fucker's chicken? John does

1009
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: some big mother fuckers, you know what. Let's just talking

1010
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: about Easy for a minute, man, because you kind of

1011
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: plugged Easier from Jerry Heller, Right, Yeah, you're gonna do

1012
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: it easy to Jerry Heller. So is it true to Easy?

1013
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: He paid? Somebody paid meat Jerry when Easy? When you

1014
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: see st out of the copter, you saw Easy and

1015
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Dre in front of compter City Hall. He Easy got

1016
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Hi by the jail, right, but they don't show you

1017
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: is longso got it about twice before the year. The

1018
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: reason why he was in jail because Lonzo and Co

1019
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: signed for draded by a car and get a car

1020
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: r EX seven Alonso used to own. I upgraded to

1021
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: a BMW Dre one of my r X seven I

1022
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: co signed. I was his uncle sold in the car

1023
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: and Dre liked flying up and down the street. And

1024
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: he wouldn't go to court. He wouldn't go to court.

1025
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: He get tickets, you want to go to court. So

1026
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: back then or warrant was a hundred sixty one dollars.

1027
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: That was, that's all. It was hundred sixty one dollars.

1028
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: But a hundred sixty one dollars in nineteen eighty five,

1029
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: eight five or nicely to change, okay, trust me it was.

1030
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: And the first time we had something to do, I

1031
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't get him by the jail. Second time, I think

1032
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: we had to be in the studio. I got him

1033
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: by the jail. Third time, I'm like, we ain't got

1034
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: nowhere to go, and my money is tight. I gotta

1035
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: pick your car. Note I can't come get you. And

1036
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: he had one of his girls called Easy. Easy came

1037
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: and got him out of jail, and understanding it was

1038
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: he would do some beats for Easy in exchange for

1039
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: getting him out of jail. No problem. The only problem

1040
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: was the beats. I'll let you use the drum machine,

1041
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: but when you push record in the studio, I need

1042
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: to get paid this twenty hour. And that's where it

1043
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: was so easy being a dope dealer that he was.

1044
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: I told the story a thousand times, tell you again,

1045
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: just so, motherfucker's no being a conduct that he was.

1046
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: He kept his money in the sock. He kept them

1047
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: change in his pocket. So after might want to get paid,

1048
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: he go to go to his pocket. No, nigga, go

1049
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: to your sock, nigga, easy walking around like he had

1050
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: an ego. Brace alone, be so much money. He's got

1051
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: damn pocket. And I'm like, dude, Uh, I can't get

1052
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: my money. Oh man, I give you forty. I'm not

1053
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: a crackhead. Give me my fucking money. So we would

1054
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: go back and forth and we laugh and joke and

1055
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: it would be uh, it would be an issue, but

1056
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be an issue. I got you, I got you.

1057
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: So finally he wanted something from me. Jerry Heller had

1058
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: got messed around there and got us, found us some money.

1059
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: We got a CBS deal. He found us some money

1060
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: at the Union and dre and yelling at him, Oh

1061
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: my god, Jerry Heller, Jerry Heller. He would not manage

1062
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: you yet, but he did this as a favor, and

1063
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: when he did it, we signed him as a manager.

1064
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: So because um, he got it, found it just like

1065
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: it's like a piece. He found us at the union.

1066
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: Um he said he won the meeting. Okay, cool, I think,

1067
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: uh this is I give you a five of the bucks.

1068
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: Think you're gonna pay me, but you owe me to

1069
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: get do your favorite. Now that's stupid, all right, I

1070
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: can I can't give some extra ship all right now

1071
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: you're talking my language. And that's basically what it was.

1072
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't so much he gave. I give you a

1073
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: fithering about no, no, no, no, no, Nina. I always

1074
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: I know I owe you. But if you look up

1075
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: with Jerry, I'm gonna pay you right now and give

1076
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: you a little something something on top of that. And

1077
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: it was just some introduction now that I think the

1078
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: introduction was gonna be. Um changed his hip hop history,

1079
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: no fucking way, because Jerry didn't want to meet him.

1080
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: And I don't give a funk. What do you say,

1081
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: living and dead? He was concerned about that, fucking me

1082
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: odd man. He's not saying he's not like you, guys. Man.

1083
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: He he wears tennis shoes and Jeane Dude, I'm telling you,

1084
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: but nobody's gonna believe my ass because nobody knows the

1085
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: fucking no but me because I was only one there.

1086
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 1: Jerry did Easy there. I ain't got a lot of kicking.

1087
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: He didn't want to funk with him because he was

1088
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: used to sing with me. He was Jerry already managed

1089
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: Egyptian Lover. His partner managed l a dream team. He

1090
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: had just signed world class wrecking crew. So and if

1091
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: anybody know all about us, we was dance groups, okay,

1092
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: and Easy was a street dude, and Jerry had never

1093
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: dealt with the streat dude before. You know, you guys

1094
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: carry briefcases, and you know you understand business. I don't.

1095
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: He don't understand business. You know, he gives me, pays

1096
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: me in cash man, you know I give it him.

1097
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: He did. It was totally different culture shot. He had

1098
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: never dealt with that before. In fact, when when Easy,

1099
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: when Jerry finally started, right before he made a decision

1100
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: to mess with Easy, he says, so, um man, that's

1101
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: answering me a question, said, what's that? He says, how

1102
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: does the guy from the valley? How how does the

1103
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: Jewish guy from the valley deal with a group called

1104
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: Nigga's Attitudes? I told him very carefully. He had doubts

1105
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: about this ship man, And you know, what I watched.

1106
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: I watched his interviews, and you know, I watched his interviews,

1107
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: I watched other interviews. I'm like, you know, when I

1108
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: get so tired of motherfucker's acting like they invented hip

1109
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: hop or they was Oh I saw, I just saw

1110
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here with that bush. And

1111
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: if it was live, I said the same thing, get

1112
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: the funk out there with that ship. Jerry. They in

1113
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: the movie try to Compton. Jerry is carrying records and

1114
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: showing Easy how to get the funk out Jerry Helen

1115
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: carried no records at Macola, no place else. No, it

1116
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. Well, let me you know, while we're

1117
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: on the top of Easy Man, we can talk earlier.

1118
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: You always keep it one hundred bonds. Why ain't trying

1119
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: to get into no speculus, you know, no speculation or

1120
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: no kind of controversy or you know, but easy stifference

1121
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: kind of strange. Always found a strange and effect that

1122
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: with all the women that he had, none of those

1123
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: women turned up to the h every possible. You didn't

1124
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: have a rash of positive cases. You know, in l

1125
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: A County during the times Easy was making his rounds

1126
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Do you think, man, it's possibility, man,

1127
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: that he was done dirty, that he was set up.

1128
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: You know what um for a person who diagnosed on

1129
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: UH for time for for simplifying the time code, the

1130
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: time situation. For person who was deb who was death

1131
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: diagnosed on the first, on the first of the month

1132
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: and was dead three weeks later, that doesn't even sound

1133
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: right to nobody, man, Not from AIDS, because I understand AIDS.

1134
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Understand AIDS. Most of y'all don't remember this ship. I

1135
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: remember like it was yesterday. The first person I've ever

1136
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: heard died from AIGs was Rock Hutson. He was an

1137
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: actor and it was months. Every fucking day on Channel two,

1138
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: I believe it was Jerry Dumphy would give a report

1139
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: on Rock Hutson and his his AIDE situation. Today, rock

1140
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: Hutson is resting comfortable. It is Beverly Hills home as

1141
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: he suffers from complications from AIDS that went on forever

1142
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: and he finally died. Easy to get AIDS on the

1143
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: first of the month, before you can get for the

1144
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: fifteenth Come be out of here. They wrote this bullshit

1145
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: letter that nobody believes what he wrote. That letter anybody's

1146
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: seen the death certificate. It was no autopsy. Once he

1147
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: got married, the autopsy was a white You know, this

1148
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: is no fact the wife could uh a wife or

1149
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: religious religious reasons can can overshadow of autopsy. Um, nobody

1150
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: really got the chance to seem that much before he

1151
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: before he checked out. And uh, it's just the whole situation.

1152
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: Man was just really really like, huh, what the fuck

1153
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: he was at my house? Maybe I don't know, six

1154
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: weeks before he was dead, maybe six weeks He looked

1155
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: healthy to motherfucker. But you know, when you think about

1156
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: that kind of ship man, and the kind of money

1157
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: he represented and ship he was going through, you don't

1158
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Man. I can't say what happened,

1159
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: but I know it never said right with me. Let

1160
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Man. Allegedly he had got

1161
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: rid of git here and I've heard from people that

1162
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: are revivable sources that they were talking about getting the

1163
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: group back together. You know, people have met, they had

1164
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: made up, you know, they were talking. And so when

1165
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: you talk about me and some dollars man generating and

1166
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: you've got the possibility of him reuniting back with Dr

1167
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: Trade Man, I q that probably would have been the

1168
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: biggest selling album of all time. Very possible. During that time,

1169
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, you get que back in the studio and

1170
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: this is at all that they've accomplished, and Cuba has

1171
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: become the mobil that he was setting off, the being

1172
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: all that power. That represents a lot of money. Man,

1173
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: So it's very possible. And you know, I think even

1174
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: just thinking about Jerry Heller being at point, You've got

1175
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: so many different people that play with this man that

1176
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. Yeah, it is. MoU was

1177
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: telling your boy earlier, I said that I look at

1178
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: hip hop and R and B and so many of

1179
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: the superstars. Most of our superstars died at a suspicious,

1180
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: suspicious fucking causes. Man, they find printing and elevator dead

1181
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: on Fenton On Michael Jackson dies from from an overdose

1182
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: of prof fall within Houston dies in the bathtub. You know,

1183
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: but you got folks been doing drugs since the fifties, say,

1184
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: still kicking making music. You can. I'll tell you something

1185
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: deep and this is something that I'm working on right now.

1186
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: I want you guys to look this up. Look up

1187
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: this name when you when you get a chance, Internet,

1188
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: Um Raffles van Exel. Raffles van Exel was a guy

1189
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: that was around all these people. He was around Bobby

1190
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: Brown and with me, he was like that consigulary kind

1191
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: of hen want to got the dope for him. He

1192
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: was around Michael Jackson, he was around Prince. As a

1193
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: matter of fact, this dude just got five million dollars

1194
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: from Princess of State. Now, how is a guy that

1195
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: comes over here? Man? He used to date the dude

1196
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: that runs TMZ Harvey living dude, a living dude. Look

1197
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: at that name, Raffles. It's deep man, It gets deep

1198
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: out there. So the stuff was easy, man, is very plausible.

1199
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: It's very plausible man, if somebody gave him a hot

1200
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: dose or something plausible product that he didn't die of naze,

1201
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: don't let his kids got now. He had kids before

1202
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: he got uh he just girl just got pregnant, was

1203
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: pregnant with his daughter fight mistaken before he died. So uh,

1204
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: it's still it's it's always been in the shadows, man,

1205
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: I always though in the shadow. Johnny j the producer

1206
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: for Tupact I mean ship. He was in jail two

1207
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: weeks ago, end up taking a nose dive off the

1208
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: second Floorida County Jail. I mean you got some bad

1209
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: bad dudes, had some bad ship happened to him. Man, Yeah, Man,

1210
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: always questionable, you know, even when you look at the

1211
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: tupacet Biggie cases, them cases don't been in solved for

1212
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: the longest. And what's so crazy is you could ask

1213
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: any kid riding down fro around the corner who did

1214
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: what who? They could tell you, but the police can't

1215
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: figure it out, you know, man, Silonso, I know you've

1216
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: got a big presence online man, telling people Man where

1217
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: they can go find. You actually got something going on

1218
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: with one of my childhood s heroes on Dr Dre. Yeah, man,

1219
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: Um I do. I do a lot of podcasts. I

1220
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: do a couple of different podcasts. One that's called n

1221
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: w A Strakes Alonso every Who's Yeah I do with

1222
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: my boy Dust Division and check it out on YouTube

1223
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: click subscribe, like share. On Thursdays, I do uh Legendary

1224
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: Connects with me and Dr Dre. For you're on TV

1225
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: raps and you get an old school you get too

1226
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: old school. East Coast West Coast veterans kicking it on

1227
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: various issues and sometimes we argue a debating that's that's

1228
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: what the fun foreign part of the bouty. You see

1229
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: it from my old school perspective. I do too, but

1230
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: from the East coast versus West coast thing, and it

1231
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: always makes for a hot topic. And then also I

1232
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: have an app called the Compton Entertainment Entertainment Chamber app

1233
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: available on Android and iPhone, uh, because I'm the president

1234
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: of the Compton Entertainment Chamber of Commerce and I'm working

1235
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: on the on the Walk of Fame to show love

1236
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: to all my folks that made Compton what it is,

1237
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: so please support that and um that's Compton Entertainment Chamber.

1238
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: It's an app iPhone and uh Android, and we're gonna

1239
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: bring a Walk of Fame to the City of Compton.

1240
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: That's gonna be dope. That's incredible. Miles. Of course, fan,

1241
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: thanks for sitting down with us. Much love. You know

1242
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: how we do it. Peace, folks,