WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: UVB76

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, Steve here, you are listening to one of

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<v Speaker 1>our original twenty six episodes. If you listen to any

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<v Speaker 1>of our new episodes, you're gonna notice that we're sounding

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<v Speaker 1>a little different in these ones. Yeah, there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>for that. There is they've been remastered. They have been

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<v Speaker 1>remastered because they had a really annoying hum. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a huge thanks to listener James for doing almost

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<v Speaker 1>all of the legwork on this thing. They'll also notice

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<v Speaker 1>if you had listened to what we're calling the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six episodes before and you're re listening now, the

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<v Speaker 1>music and sound effects are gone. Yes, we've we've gone

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<v Speaker 1>back to straight audio, So be warned. We sound a

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<v Speaker 1>little different today than we do in what you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to. Yeah, bye bye, thinking sideways. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand you never know what stories of things we simply

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the answer to. Yeh wait, do you hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? Ah? Know? Right? A little bit? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Now imagine listening to that for hours or days or

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<v Speaker 1>weeks or years. No, so so crazy. That's an annoying noise?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that noise? Well, I'll tell you a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to thinking sideways. I'm Devin, I'm Steve. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about UVB seventy six or a buzzer today. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what that noise is UVB s yeah. Um, So the

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<v Speaker 1>station transmits a buzzing sound that lasts about a second,

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<v Speaker 1>pauses for a second. You know you just heard it.

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<v Speaker 1>It repeats to thirty four times a minute all day

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<v Speaker 1>long for years twenty one? How much? Four? So about

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<v Speaker 1>every other second or so about it's not exact. What's

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<v Speaker 1>what's the arrange? I mean, where can we pick this

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<v Speaker 1>up in the US? Or is it sometimes but not

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the anverspheric conditions. Is it broadcasting to this day?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been broadcasting how long? So it's been broadcasting

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<v Speaker 1>since at least nine two that's the first actual recording

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But there have been reports of it as

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<v Speaker 1>back as far as seventy six, which is apparently when

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<v Speaker 1>the US started monitoring it, so maybe even longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? So? I listened to this thing a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been on my radar forever. Upon intended to it sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that's kind of the thing I would wake up to.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds a lot like after the first couple repetitions.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of has this soothing not like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like the ticking of a clock. It's not quite that repetitive,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still repetitive enough that it's soothing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand I'm crazy. You can hear people talking

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<v Speaker 1>in the distance behind this thing often, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tone that comes from a device in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a live microphone, not as in a speaker with

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<v Speaker 1>a microphone in front of it. Yeah, as in like

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<v Speaker 1>a maybe actually a fog horn that is there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes back in front of a microphone that is

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the broadcaster that broadcasted out. And actually the

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<v Speaker 1>current theory is that it's two different transmitters, maybe likely

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<v Speaker 1>within the same building, maybe within a couple of rooms

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<v Speaker 1>of each other, because you can hear things in the

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<v Speaker 1>background that are consistent, but that one goes back and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's a pause, and the other one goes back

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a pausitive goes You can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hear that variation if you listen again, really closely, hold

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<v Speaker 1>on listen, ah ah ah ah, A little a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit slight. It's very slight. There are some recordings where

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<v Speaker 1>it's way more apparent. Uh, and it will not surprise

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that these come out of Mother Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, good old Mother Russia, a land of men

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<v Speaker 1>chasing bears with bats. So we're not here to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this noise, although it is weird, We're not. We're

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about what happens when the noise stops?

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<v Speaker 1>Nuclear warfare all bite, When and why did the noise stop?

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on said shape? You said shape? You know which will? God?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mean that should say that your camp? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>What is here reciting a bunch of numbers and letters

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<v Speaker 1>in Russian? Or what he is? This transmission is from

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<v Speaker 1>this specific one is from December. It was the first

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<v Speaker 1>recorded vocal transmission of the stop of the buzzer Um

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<v Speaker 1>And if you would really like to know, I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what he says, but it's really doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in code obviously. How long is the message go

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<v Speaker 1>on for? How many characters? Um? So with the exception

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<v Speaker 1>one exception, all of the messages are one or two

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<v Speaker 1>call signs, which says where they're what they're broadcasting from,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's one or two more number sets of

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<v Speaker 1>fletely varying length. It goes from that. I've heard some

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<v Speaker 1>that are like five or six, and I've heard some

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<v Speaker 1>that are like twenty or thirty UM, which is another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that makes it a little creepy. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just like the same message going out every time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that one went out and then one went out

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<v Speaker 1>on December nine, two thousand two. One went out on

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<v Speaker 1>February two thousand and six, and that was it for

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<v Speaker 1>four years. Those are the only vocal. Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>only vocal. Has anybody like cross checked those days with

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<v Speaker 1>the events in Russia and those particular days, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>there they come up with nothing, nothing of any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of consequences. It seems that way. Yeah, it's how to

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<v Speaker 1>Russia is nothing. Three years ago, the transmission just disappeared,

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<v Speaker 1>like actually disappeared, like just went off the air. The

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<v Speaker 1>buzzer just went off. I don't know if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't have electricity in Russia for about three Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>On June five, ten, uh UVB went silent for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours and then resumed normal buzzing UH And then

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<v Speaker 1>on the tenth at approximately which is coordinated Universal time,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a series of Morris code beeps admitted with

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<v Speaker 1>the buzzer just for just under four minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later in that day they had another

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<v Speaker 1>voice message that was very very short. Two days later,

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<v Speaker 1>the signal went completely silent again, and then it was

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<v Speaker 1>followed by a series of thumping sounds that were apparently

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<v Speaker 1>in the same room at the open microphone, which was

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<v Speaker 1>followed closely by a hail of electronic noises which faded

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<v Speaker 1>quickly into the buzzer broadcast. Later that day, voices were

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<v Speaker 1>heard conversing loudly behind the buzzer. So the janitor walked

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<v Speaker 1>into the room, knock a bunch of stuff around, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>fixed it, and then they were in there complaining about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what I'm kind of sounds like that, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or if somebody was having sex in there maybe, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been that too. Nobody really knows what

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<v Speaker 1>happened there. And then on September one, the buzzer was

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<v Speaker 1>interrupted by thirty eight seconds of dance of the Little

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<v Speaker 1>Swans from Tchaikovsky's Ballet of the Swans, and a morrise

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<v Speaker 1>code signal accompanied that fragment, so it was right underneath it.

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<v Speaker 1>Um On September five, a female voice voice was heard

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<v Speaker 1>counting from one to nine in Russian. About an hour later,

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<v Speaker 1>the buzzing UH was silenced for a muffled male voice

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<v Speaker 1>trying to read a message, but it was garbled UH.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like they were having some technical difficulties, right,

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit based on the fact that it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a microphone in front of the speaker. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>send high tech to me at all, So not shocking, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then on September seven, there was a male voice

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<v Speaker 1>that made a broadcast. It was just you know, series

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<v Speaker 1>of numbers and codes again, but it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>UH voice messages that would be broadcast by September. So

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty three days they sent out twenty five messages

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<v Speaker 1>after being basically silent since seventy six? Did I say

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two? So no no human voices on it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly just a slew ofud yes. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you said that the broadcasts were cut off in

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<v Speaker 1>like two thousands seven or something like that, or two

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped for a while. Okay, So you said that,

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<v Speaker 1>you said there were messages in September of what year? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so pop back up and suddenly had a flurry of

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<v Speaker 1>no longer just the buzzer, but people changed exactly lots

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<v Speaker 1>of codes UM. And then between October and December of

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<v Speaker 1>that same year there were another fifty six voice messages

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<v Speaker 1>sent out odd yeah. Each of these with the exception

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<v Speaker 1>of the one on September t UM replaced the familiar

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<v Speaker 1>UVB seventy six call sign with a m d z

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<v Speaker 1>HB call sign, So they changed the call signers to

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<v Speaker 1>change their call sign, which suggests perhaps that during their

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<v Speaker 1>times of radio silence of buzzer silence, they were relocating.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, or perhaps they were overrun by rival hand

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<v Speaker 1>radio enthusiasts. That's that's definitely possible. On November ten, intermittent

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<v Speaker 1>phone conversations were transmitted and recorded by a listener for

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<v Speaker 1>a period of about thirty minutes. They were confidential messages.

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<v Speaker 1>They have yet to be fully publicly translated. The phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls mentioned the brigade operative officer on duty and communication

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<v Speaker 1>nodes like debut nice, I can't say Russian words, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Russian word for hope, and then a couple

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<v Speaker 1>other code names are things UM and then a female

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<v Speaker 1>officer says Officer on duty of Communication node Debut Senior

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<v Speaker 1>and sin got the control call from someone okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they cut off. And then on that same day

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<v Speaker 1>there was a phone call that was out that said

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<v Speaker 1>did you get the call, and the person responded yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was Since then, between January five and February five,

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<v Speaker 1>two eleven um fourteen more voice messages, but no were

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<v Speaker 1>buzzing buzzing in between. So the way that this works

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<v Speaker 1>is that it buzzes, it buzzes, it buzzes, It goes

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<v Speaker 1>silent for a minute, and then somebody talks and then

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<v Speaker 1>it starts buzzing again. It's as if this whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>honking or buzzing into the microphone just gets shut off

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute, and they take the mic and they

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<v Speaker 1>say their announcement, and then it gets turned back on

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<v Speaker 1>as I say, it'll do, like this thing is buzzing,

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<v Speaker 1>buzzing and buzzing, and they gets turned off and they

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<v Speaker 1>hear this Russian voice saying, wow, that's really annoying. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the most annoying thing. So the you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of theories out there about this. One

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's a number station, which is fair. What

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is a number stations? So a number station is

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<v Speaker 1>a short wave radio station UM, which is used mostly

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<v Speaker 1>by the military. UM. They're characterized by their quote unusual broadcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just of spoken words, mostly numbers. UM. They

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, read a streaking of numbers or letters,

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<v Speaker 1>usually by female voices UM, although sometimes men or sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>children's voices are used. Used mostly by the military because

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<v Speaker 1>you send them out on like a empty am short wavelength.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just send your operative out with a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little handheld radio. They just tune it to that station

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<v Speaker 1>and just listen to the silence all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>when something comes up, they'll have it. They'll hear the

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast is happening. Usually the broadcast and this is true

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<v Speaker 1>of uvb UH. When they do broadcast information, they repeat

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<v Speaker 1>it twice, so they do call sign, call sign message,

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<v Speaker 1>call sign, call sign pause, and they repeat that exact

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<v Speaker 1>same message over again and then they go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the buzzer. So do they when they do actual voices

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that is at the same time of

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<v Speaker 1>the day every time, completely different times. There's no consistency

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<v Speaker 1>within that, so it's just random. Nobody totally can figure

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<v Speaker 1>out a pattern, right, which you know, if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an operative out in the field somewhere. Sure, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that works great. The only thing is is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to understand why it would they would have a

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<v Speaker 1>buzzer constantly, why they would have a sound constantly, Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much easier if you're out in the field

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<v Speaker 1>to just say, I I'm a tune around this time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tune my radio and listen silence, and

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I hear something, I'll know that I

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<v Speaker 1>need to start paying attention instead of a buzzer, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it changes in tone. Shore you know there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a distinct change, but it's nothing compared to silence. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an expense. Well you know what. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of it would be, though, is that if

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<v Speaker 1>you want it, if you want that particular wavelength to

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<v Speaker 1>be to be available for you and your operatives to use,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a good idea to occupied at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>because otherwise somebody else might set up a radio station

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<v Speaker 1>and broadcasting that particular wavelength and kind of like step

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<v Speaker 1>all over your stuff. That's true. Also, couldn't you just

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast dead air? Dead air is and what as in

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<v Speaker 1>silence is? Well, you can't broadcast silence. Yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to broadcast some kind of noise. Yeah, I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>could broadcast some kind of interference, just like static would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be sort of jamming. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean, just just saw a really simple,

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<v Speaker 1>low tech solution. And this is typical of the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're not going to go for the

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<v Speaker 1>high tech solution where they can come up with something

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<v Speaker 1>cheap and down or dirty that works. So you you

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast an annoying buzz, an annoying loud buzz, and so

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<v Speaker 1>nobody is going to think to try to set up

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<v Speaker 1>a radio station broadcasting that particular wavelength that would interfere

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<v Speaker 1>with your transmissions. That's fair, even though, even though yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The other theory that people had was that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a dead hand system. And before you ask, because I

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<v Speaker 1>see that a little twitch of your head, a dead

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<v Speaker 1>hand is a system that automatically triggers the launch of

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons in case of a devastating strike by the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a it's constantly broadcasting, and when the broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>goes dead, it means that something devastating has happened to

0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the country. There's been some kind of really horrible attack

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<v Speaker 1>on it, So you launched weapons at whoever the likeliest

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<v Speaker 1>person was. They were big in the Cold War that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we had them and Russia had them, and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people had them, and that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if that tone went dead, it meant that the president

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<v Speaker 1>was dead, everyone was dead. They had we'd been attacked

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<v Speaker 1>just horrifically. So it kind of depends on where the

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<v Speaker 1>where the transmitter was located though, was it actually was

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<v Speaker 1>it actually located anywhere near any nuclear missile silos. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the other kind of mysteries that nobody totally knows

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<v Speaker 1>for sure where it is. They've never been able to

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<v Speaker 1>pin it down, or something that seemed that seemed to

0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:35.440
<v Speaker 1>recall something about how they were it actually broadcast from

0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.040
<v Speaker 1>two different locations. Is that true? The theory is that

0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:45.360
<v Speaker 1>they broadcast from two different speakers, not two different locations. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the same building, just different rooms or different speakers

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<v Speaker 1>in the same room. Okay, that's the current. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>with the dead hand theory is that it did go

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<v Speaker 1>silent and nothing happened, So that's pretty much bunk. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess the question kind of is what

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<v Speaker 1>well this thing and why are the Russians still using

0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.239
<v Speaker 1>this mechanical device? And yeah, well but the buzzing as

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<v Speaker 1>a buzzing still occurring. I mean it's shut off into

0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:19.000
<v Speaker 1>what two thou seven or when did the buzzing stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still going on. It stopped for just briefly went

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<v Speaker 1>off the air for twenty four hours, but but it's

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.160
<v Speaker 1>still going on. It's still going on, and you can

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.200
<v Speaker 1>still tune in and listen to it today. Now, I

0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:38.879
<v Speaker 1>seemed to remember something when I was going through and

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<v Speaker 1>this this might just be a troll on the internet,

0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.240
<v Speaker 1>that somebody was saying that they had figured out what

0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the location that it was broadcasting from was and that

0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.040
<v Speaker 1>when they went there, it was a derelict building that

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<v Speaker 1>had some old decrepit recorder broadcasting equipment in it and

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<v Speaker 1>some codebooks and stuff like that. But since the hand

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<v Speaker 1>was going, this was I'm guessing after the point where

0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it went dead for a bit and then pop back

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.520
<v Speaker 1>on the air, and so that was the transition period. Yeah, yeah,

0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.159
<v Speaker 1>that's the theory. And that's you know, that's stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard too, that they found, you know, that some

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.000
<v Speaker 1>urban explorers found that's exactly the total place. Yeah, I

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:25.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know how much I believe it's I mean, everybody

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.000
<v Speaker 1>can make whatever story they want up and say I

0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.439
<v Speaker 1>found all this stuff, but I've never disclosed it. I

0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.800
<v Speaker 1>burned it for secrecy because I didn't want the KGIB

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<v Speaker 1>after me. Yeah, monk, but I've heard those stories. So

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if if you've ever heard anything that

0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.720
<v Speaker 1>seemed concrete evidence that it had actually shifted locale, No,

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the most concrete. I think that it's probably true if

0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that story is true, which you know, it may well

0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.119
<v Speaker 1>be that they found it. I you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I else it would go quiet for twenty four hours.

0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, technical difficulties, sure, but that should

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<v Speaker 1>only take an hour or two, especially since the technology

0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:06.879
<v Speaker 1>seems to be just pretty much the basics. Those vacuum

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 1>tubes are hard to replace, like those old toys that

0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you would yeah your head, yeah, or the recording of

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.520
<v Speaker 1>an air raid siren or something that the tape breaks

0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.199
<v Speaker 1>and they've scotch taped together so many times that it

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:27.160
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't work. That's why that's why it animates from Russia.

0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like that's that's kind of their style.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of the other two stations that they

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.160
<v Speaker 1>have that does the same basically the same thing. They

0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 1>have two more stations in Russia that have been recorded,

0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and the names are, i think it's their nickname, the

0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Pipe and the Squeaky Wheel, and they have a very

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>similar history of everything is just fine, constant buzz no

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>big deal. And then there have been some interruptions where

0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:07.400
<v Speaker 1>suddenly they're being used with verbal casts or audio being

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>sent out, but nobody knows why that's happening, which adds

0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a little more depth to the mystery of wait, what

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 1>are they doing with this? Is this travel plans for

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the country's mascot or is this air rate scenarios or formations?

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The pip sounds exactly like the buzzer

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 1>used to sound. Oh really, it's gone through a couple

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of different incarnations throughout the years of what it sounded like,

0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and the pip is what it's used to sound like

0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties actually, so check out the squeaking. So

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the pip is it maybe may have been the same technology,

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:10.120
<v Speaker 1>which sounds to me almost as if it's a heart remotitor. So, yeah,

0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:14.400
<v Speaker 1>what are they doing over there? So Joe, you you

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<v Speaker 1>think that you might have had some ideas or some

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>theories as to why these would be used. Well, no,

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean there was the one, which is that they're

0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.639
<v Speaker 1>basically trying to keep the channel open for communication by

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:29.920
<v Speaker 1>keeping other people off the wavelength. The other one was

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 1>why I asked about the wavelength. But it doesn't really

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.880
<v Speaker 1>actually make sense when you think about it, because if

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to say, use it as a dead hand,

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.760
<v Speaker 1>then communicates, say to your ballistic missile subs that Mother

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Russia has been nuked, time to go TYD, to go

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.959
<v Speaker 1>new to the US or whoever, then you know it's

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>a dead hand. Would work really well except for one thing,

0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.880
<v Speaker 1>which is that it's in a fairly short wavelength which

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:57.679
<v Speaker 1>doesn't penetrate water very well. So a longer way look wavelength,

0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, like like VLF or e l F would

0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 1>actually be able to reach submarines way way far away

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 1>deep onto the water. But if it's um, you know,

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that's all bets are off for that. So I don't

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's if it is a dead hand, it's not

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>for communication with ballistic missile subs anyway. That's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of shoots that theory all the hell.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I was asking what that wavelength was.

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 1>So nobody really knows what this thing is for no,

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.680
<v Speaker 1>nor they do they know who runs it. I mean,

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the theory is that it's the Russian Armed Forces,

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>but it's unconfirmed. You know, you can guess from the codes,

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 1>you can guess from whatever you want to guess from,

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.399
<v Speaker 1>but nobody even knows for sure that it's actually the

0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Russian military, just that it broadcasts out of Russia. I'm

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:48.879
<v Speaker 1>guessing that the entire thing is being broadcast from Stalin's coffin.

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>That's where it's coming from his heart, and he's like grunts, yeah, yeah,

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>they've got you on life support, but he's it's it's

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>really he's in hibernation, so it's his heart rate, and

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>his heart rate is so bad because he's been into

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:10.199
<v Speaker 1>semented amination spending animation for so long. They instead of

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>going b burb, it's that that that thing is going

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>to break down. Somebody needs to change the distributor on him.

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, definitely, it's problem. Or you know, it could

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.360
<v Speaker 1>just be aliens. Well here's no, it could be aliens.

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.879
<v Speaker 1>But I think the most likely explanation is just probably

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<v Speaker 1>a publicly funded probably by US dollars publicly funded sort

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of art installation. And yeah, they're probably still probably some

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Russian is probably probably you know, running rount request and

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 1>they're probably getting a couple of million dollars a year

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>to put on this art thing. So I would suggest

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that you go to they go to the fads and

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:48.879
<v Speaker 1>ask them what art stuff and rush of their funding,

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and you'll probably find the application in there. So there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. It's good. They all right, as well as

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>anything I don't know. Yeah, yeah, so I guess that

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 1>does it. So if you want to hear any of

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>these recordings or read any of the links that we

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have for you, they're all really exciting links. You can

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.919
<v Speaker 1>go to our website, which is Thinking Sideways podcast dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have your own theory, please share it with

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<v Speaker 1>us because there's so many theories out there and they're

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>just so interesting. So thanks for sticking with us. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>could everybody boob