Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted
Speaker 1: colleague Wes Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our
Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. Normally on Wednesday, our
Speaker 1: Wednesday show is devoted to looking ahead to the next opponent.
Speaker 1: But with the Packers just having played on Monday night,
Speaker 1: there's still a few too many things we need to
Speaker 1: follow up on from that game, because it really is
Speaker 1: one that has generated a lot of discussion, and I
Speaker 1: want to get to some of the things with the
Speaker 1: officiating later on, but first I want to touch on
Speaker 1: some of the things that Matt Lafleur mentioned in his
Speaker 1: Tuesday press conference in which he was bringing up some
Speaker 1: of what you might call the the little known, the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes types of plays, moments that happened in
Speaker 1: this game that allowed the Packers to come back not
Speaker 1: once from thirteen points down, but then a second time
Speaker 1: from nine points down in order to win this game.
Speaker 1: And really it starts with the very first play of
Speaker 1: the game with the flea flicker over the top to
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay and who's chasing him down to prevent a
Speaker 1: touchdown from happening. But jaire Alexander one of the fastest
Speaker 1: guys on the field. Yeah, coming from the other side
Speaker 1: of the field as Golladay sort of crossed the hash marks.
Speaker 1: It was a great heads up play. And it's funny
Speaker 1: because explosive plays hurt, right, They're called explosive for a reason.
Speaker 1: I mean, those are remember all the years Don Capers
Speaker 1: will talking about it. The percentage chances that you have
Speaker 1: of giving up points are giving up a touchdown after
Speaker 1: you're explosive play. They just spike as soon as something
Speaker 1: like that happens. But mentally, the Packers defense has just
Speaker 1: been on a different plane this year. So for Alexander
Speaker 1: to get down field, trip him up at the ten
Speaker 1: or eleven yard line, whatever it was in in the
Speaker 1: defense to hold that was four points right there. At
Speaker 1: the time, everybody's just looking at it and going right
Speaker 1: off the bat, you know the Lions are scoring. It's
Speaker 1: a huge play at this defense. You know they're getting
Speaker 1: gash like this, and then when you get to the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter you never really think back to it was
Speaker 1: a little moment like that that ultimately keeps the Packers
Speaker 1: in this game. Yeah, I mean, the Packers did catch
Speaker 1: a break there with the fumbled snap, fumbled exchange on
Speaker 1: first down that put the Lions a little bit behind
Speaker 1: the chains on that series, but then second down, third down,
Speaker 1: the Packers did get the stop and force the field goal.
Speaker 1: And yeah, bottom line is that's four points. Where a
Speaker 1: big sixty six yard play if that's only going to
Speaker 1: cost you three points, just as we were talking on
Speaker 1: yesterday's show, when you commit turnovers on offense, but yet
Speaker 1: those only cost you three points the other way as
Speaker 1: opposed to seven. Those are the kinds of things that
Speaker 1: add up in close ballgames. This is not what you
Speaker 1: want to talk about, but I just want to because
Speaker 1: it's a good moment for you to mention Jaire Alexander
Speaker 1: one of the big gripes that I have, uh and
Speaker 1: I was guilty of it two when I was at
Speaker 1: the newspapers. We we operate week to week. It's a
Speaker 1: three and six day new cycle. There seemed to be
Speaker 1: this narrative that crept up in the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and maybe Jr. Alexander isn't playing to form. You realize,
Speaker 1: if you just focus on one player and you do
Speaker 1: a story every week on that player, he's gonna play well,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be not so good weeks, and then he's
Speaker 1: gonna play well again. Alexander has played well more often
Speaker 1: than not. And that's the reason why I believe he's
Speaker 1: leading the league right now with ten passes defense. The
Speaker 1: fact that you know, Pro Football Focus said he only
Speaker 1: gave up one catch, which is a debatable to j D.
Speaker 1: Mckessic for three yards. I mean, he just played a
Speaker 1: whale of a ball game. And then obviously, as you
Speaker 1: mentioned there, even that wasn't his guy against Gallada, stayed
Speaker 1: with the play, showed the effort, and was able to
Speaker 1: get that tackle. Yeah, when you look at that flea
Speaker 1: flicker on film, Alexander just turned and went into a
Speaker 1: dead sprint as soon as Stafford released that ball and
Speaker 1: threw it deep, and that's why he was able to
Speaker 1: end up catching up with Golladay. A similar thing in
Speaker 1: uh one of your posts, an insider Inbox that you
Speaker 1: posted this morning, where a fan of pointed out, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Elton Jenkins running down Justin
Speaker 1: Coleman after the goal line that and and Jenkins didn't
Speaker 1: make the tackle, But that's that's an example of why
Speaker 1: you always pursue and you never give up on a
Speaker 1: play because just the more guys you can get anywhere
Speaker 1: near the ball on a return like that, he has
Speaker 1: to slow up or he has to try to make
Speaker 1: a move, and then somebody can eventually get there. So
Speaker 1: instead of that being ad interception return for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: it's a fifty five yard return. The Packers defense holds
Speaker 1: and they kick another field goal again, potentially four points
Speaker 1: that are saved by just flat out hustling, awareness and
Speaker 1: heavy play. And let's be honest here, I think if
Speaker 1: you talk to Jason Simmons and Mike Petton, they want
Speaker 1: to see that kind of energy and enthusiasm and you know,
Speaker 1: just making that extra play from a guy like Jaire
Speaker 1: Alexander who runs a four three whatever. Elton Jenkins is
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman a lot of times. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you preach this. You obviously want everybody running to the ball,
Speaker 1: but those as are usually the ones that get the
Speaker 1: free pass if they maybe aren't getting downfield to make
Speaker 1: that tackle. I just thought that said a lot about Jenkins.
Speaker 1: I also thought I said a lot about his athleticism. Um,
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't run like Jerry Olexander being able
Speaker 1: to get downfield to make a play. He has really
Speaker 1: impressed me. Mike, You've covered a lot more offensive lineman
Speaker 1: than I have in Green Bay. But for a first
Speaker 1: year player coming in. I was talking to Corey Lindsley
Speaker 1: about it late last week. He's as impressive as any
Speaker 1: rookie that they've had on that offensive line. I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's a great offensive line where Bok Tri, Corey Lindsley,
Speaker 1: they all played as rookies. Elton Jenkins is picking this
Speaker 1: up as quickly as anybody. It's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why when they lost Lane Taylor, there really hasn't been
Speaker 1: a hiccup at that spot. Yeah, and and not to
Speaker 1: take anything away from guys like Bok tr and Lindsley
Speaker 1: who played very very well as rookies, but those were
Speaker 1: guys who weren't necessarily going to play as rookies. They
Speaker 1: were thrust into the role and they responded and they've
Speaker 1: held down those jobs. Elton Jenkins was pressing for a
Speaker 1: starting job from the day that he got here. And yes,
Speaker 1: Lane Tiler's injury ended up you know, maybe expediting that
Speaker 1: process or just made it more seamless in some ways
Speaker 1: that he's replacing a veteran, but he has rewarded the
Speaker 1: coach's faith in him right from the get go. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And it was funny too, because, uh, you know, listening
Speaker 1: to Lindsley talk about it, he said, you know, when
Speaker 1: you look at the offense that he was coming into
Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy and fourteen, and he said, it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's not quite day and night. But I mean,
Speaker 1: with what Jenkins has been able to do picking up
Speaker 1: Lafleur's scheme, it's the reason why for as athletic as
Speaker 1: he is and as many measurables as there were making
Speaker 1: it being a second round pick, the really reason, the
Speaker 1: true reason behind why he's been able to play is
Speaker 1: just the intelligence there to step in and know what
Speaker 1: he's doing. Yeah. Well, another one of the guys la
Speaker 1: Fleur mentioned on Tuesday was defensive lineman Dean Lowry, and
Speaker 1: boy did he play a whale of the ball game too.
Speaker 1: Huh boy, And you look at this this Packers run defense.
Speaker 1: La Fleur came right out and said it, Hey, it's
Speaker 1: been a problem for a few weeks in terms of
Speaker 1: in terms of stopping the run. And yes, the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions have never really had a very good running game,
Speaker 1: but carry On Johnson has had his moments in this
Speaker 1: league and has had his good games, and he could
Speaker 1: not find anywhere to run. Thirteen carries for thirty four yards.
Speaker 1: You take that against a number one running back from
Speaker 1: an opponent any day of the week. And Dean Lowry
Speaker 1: was a big part of that. So a couple of
Speaker 1: things of this one. As you mentioned, the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: have not historically been a good running team, but two
Speaker 1: weeks ago that game against Kansas City, they were in
Speaker 1: that because of carry On Johnson and how they were
Speaker 1: able to move the chains and control the tempo of
Speaker 1: the ball game and not making a shootout with Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: He's coming off a twenty five yard game, and I
Speaker 1: know what the yards per catch a better yards per
Speaker 1: Russia been for him this year. Not extraordinary, but when
Speaker 1: used effectively and consistently in building that momentum, he's been
Speaker 1: really difficult to stop. The Packers did that in this game,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, I talked to Lowry by
Speaker 1: myself after the game, and you could kind of feel
Speaker 1: like he said there was some gratification there. They heard
Speaker 1: what people have been saying. They know they haven't been
Speaker 1: playing the way they wanted to. And I, you know,
Speaker 1: not to speak for Lowery, but I think he really
Speaker 1: did take that a lot on himself to be accountable into,
Speaker 1: you know, step up in that situation. I think the
Speaker 1: Packers were smarter with how they use their defensive lineman
Speaker 1: in this game. I didn't see them jet rushing as much.
Speaker 1: I sat saw them paying a little bit more attention
Speaker 1: to the gap and then getting up field. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it wasn't it was. It wasn't as much upfield attack
Speaker 1: right at the line of right. It was more just
Speaker 1: being sound and fundamental. I thought he Kenny Clark and
Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to Tyler Lancaster and Montrevia's
Speaker 1: Adams too for how they rotated in. It was funny, Mike,
Speaker 1: you go back about six years ago. I remember talking
Speaker 1: with my old colleagues at the Press Gazette, like, you know,
Speaker 1: pays defense. It's just kind of thing of the past.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's getting to be more and more nickel.
Speaker 1: You base your front off of those two interior defensive tackles,
Speaker 1: and you've got your edge rushers and that's the whole
Speaker 1: kitten caboodle. And now the last two seasons especially, you've
Speaker 1: seen the Packers, I would argue, and I don't have
Speaker 1: the stands in front of me. You've seen the base
Speaker 1: defense spike in this league the last few season. It
Speaker 1: probably goes hand in hand with the running back resurgence
Speaker 1: that we've seen. We've seen more of it this year
Speaker 1: in with those defensive linemen doing their job against the lines.
Speaker 1: I think that freed up Blake Martinez, b J. Goodson
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, get into those gaps
Speaker 1: fit have the room to make plays. And as you said,
Speaker 1: I mean the longest run of the day was Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford's tenure at scramble. You know, whether it was mckissic
Speaker 1: or whether it was the other running Johnson Johnson whose
Speaker 1: names escaping me now Carrie on Johnson. Regardless of who
Speaker 1: it was, they weren't able to get traction. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: if you want to see one snapshot anyway of Dean
Speaker 1: Lowry against the run by what you might have missed
Speaker 1: for this game, which just posted on the website shortly
Speaker 1: before we came in here to take this. I take
Speaker 1: a look at the goal line stand sort of the
Speaker 1: goal line stand that wasn't because the Packers ended up
Speaker 1: giving up the touchdown. Close call, I know. But the
Speaker 1: first downplay, which is part of that segment, if you
Speaker 1: want to take a look at it, Dean Lowry just
Speaker 1: it's absolutely textbook run defense. He sheds the block and
Speaker 1: blast carry on Johnson in the hole. It's at from
Speaker 1: the three yard line, and it's no game. It goes
Speaker 1: from first to go on the three, to second and
Speaker 1: go on the three, and Lowry is the guy that
Speaker 1: makes the play. So if you want to get a
Speaker 1: quick look at that, that is on our site. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just felt like he played like his tail on fire.
Speaker 1: I mean, in real time, I felt that way, but
Speaker 1: especially when I went back and looked at it. Certainly
Speaker 1: you broke down the all twenty two of it. But
Speaker 1: when I finally got chance to go back and watch
Speaker 1: the TV copy, I mean, he just Dean Lowry. I
Speaker 1: thought it wasn't his biggest statistical performance. It was only
Speaker 1: four tackles, but I thought it was just a really
Speaker 1: solid all around outing that he had. Yeah, there's no reason.
Speaker 1: There's a reason the Packers gave him a contract extension
Speaker 1: before this year started. All right, I do want to
Speaker 1: get to, as we promised on yesterday's show, some of
Speaker 1: our thoughts about the officiating and how things went down
Speaker 1: in this game against the Lions. I know you and
Speaker 1: I are in agreement on this, so we'll definitely start
Speaker 1: here with regards to the two hands to the face
Speaker 1: penalties on Trey Flowers that the entire city of Detroit,
Speaker 1: most of the state of Michigan is up in arms
Speaker 1: over how I just went down. Well, yeah, lower Michigan
Speaker 1: certainly lower. Right. Um, you and I we discussed this
Speaker 1: at lunch yesterday. You wrote about it an insider inbox.
Speaker 1: For me, it's the fool me once, fool me twice
Speaker 1: kind of line. I mean, yeah, if Flowers is upset
Speaker 1: about the calls, well, you got called for it once
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. So the fact that you got
Speaker 1: called for it again later in the fourth quarter, you
Speaker 1: can blame the ref cell you want on the first one,
Speaker 1: but then the second ones on you because you were
Speaker 1: doing the same thing that got you called in the
Speaker 1: first place. That's how I look at it. He could
Speaker 1: have avoided the second one, certainly, and uh, and I
Speaker 1: put it on him. Yeah, Um, it's the old Einstein thing, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, here, here's the thing. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: different columns and analysis and that have been written in
Speaker 1: the preceding days, some outraged, some you know a little
Speaker 1: bit more towards the middle. In my general takeaway has been,
Speaker 1: because you know, this is how I always handle these things.
Speaker 1: I go when I read all the sources, I've taken
Speaker 1: all the opinions, and then I you know, proceed from there.
Speaker 1: There's two major things that you have to consider if
Speaker 1: you're a Packer fan or you're a Lion fan. In
Speaker 1: this is objective. This is not subjective. This is not opinionated.
Speaker 1: This is the truth. The lines didn't finish drives. They didn't.
Speaker 1: They end up having to settle for five field goals.
Speaker 1: When you kick that many field goals and you're playing
Speaker 1: another team on the road, not a recipe for the success.
Speaker 1: If you're going to do that and you're going to
Speaker 1: leave those points on the board, you have to understand.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing all these people who are outrage have never
Speaker 1: played an R and G game before, But you have
Speaker 1: to understand that there's going to be factors out of
Speaker 1: your control that are going to dictate the final outcome
Speaker 1: of the game. It doesn't matter if it's an injury,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's a penalty, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if the wind changes direction and the field goals aarry.
Speaker 1: You can't count on every factor to give you a close,
Speaker 1: narrow victory. The Green Bay Packers know that as well
Speaker 1: as any team in the NFL right now. When you
Speaker 1: go back to last season, there's randomness to the should
Speaker 1: have won the game against the Minnesota Vikings. The randomness
Speaker 1: and the close knit nature of that game did not
Speaker 1: allow them to. And you have to move on. So
Speaker 1: the big point I'm trying to make you here is
Speaker 1: the vitriol and I've seen a lot of it in
Speaker 1: my mentions that people have over this thing. Get a grip,
Speaker 1: move on because the fact of the matter is is
Speaker 1: that if that game would have been seven, none of
Speaker 1: that matters. And getting back to your original point about Flowers,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he was wrong, you know, And and
Speaker 1: certainly the NFL has had their two cents on it
Speaker 1: now and Troy Vincent has spoken his two cents. But
Speaker 1: the way I see it is they were the kids
Speaker 1: in the classroom. They were not the chaperones. They were
Speaker 1: not the teacher. The teacher told them a certain way
Speaker 1: that this classroom is going to run today, and Flowers
Speaker 1: still win against it. I'm not saying it's right. But
Speaker 1: when you go home to your parents and you have
Speaker 1: the two pink slips from the day and you've got
Speaker 1: to explain to what happened, I mean, maybe your parents
Speaker 1: patchy on the back and tell you what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I know my dad would have been like, why didn't
Speaker 1: you correct your action the first time? That's my point,
Speaker 1: and I understand I understand the frustration of the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions fans when you're talking about all the way back
Speaker 1: to the Calvin Johnson play that started everything about the
Speaker 1: catch rule, and the playoff game in Dallas with the
Speaker 1: past interference that wasn't called, and the Monday night game
Speaker 1: against Seattle when the guy bats the ball out of
Speaker 1: the end zone and they completely botched that call, and
Speaker 1: there have been others. I get it. I get the frustration,
Speaker 1: but the league, in some ways west My next point
Speaker 1: is that the league in some ways also does this
Speaker 1: to itself with these points of emphasis that they come
Speaker 1: up with every year. Hands to the face has been
Speaker 1: a point of emphasis, So has offensive holding. We've seen
Speaker 1: David bak Tr get called for offensive holding this year
Speaker 1: more than he has maybe in the last two or
Speaker 1: three years combined. Is a three time All Pro suddenly
Speaker 1: a penalty prone liability on the offensive line? No, he's not.
Speaker 1: It's this point of emphasis thing, and bok Tr is
Speaker 1: still trying to adjust to it. And to his credit,
Speaker 1: he's not standing in front of his locker every week
Speaker 1: talking to reporters and complaining, sorry, I had to catch
Speaker 1: myself before I said the wrong word, complaining about the
Speaker 1: fact that he's getting getting calls when these are the
Speaker 1: types of things that haven't been called in the past.
Speaker 1: So the league does this to itself and does this
Speaker 1: to the players with these points of emphasis, and it's
Speaker 1: only going to be natural, it's only human nature for
Speaker 1: officials when they're put on notice with these points of emphasis.
Speaker 1: That means the league wants to see the calls. So
Speaker 1: guess what the players are going to be the victims here,
Speaker 1: And that's how this thing goes. If the league wants
Speaker 1: to avoid all of this and all this officiating controversy,
Speaker 1: the single point of emphasis, quite frankly, needs to be
Speaker 1: If it's not obvious, don't call it, because nobody's gonna complain, right,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna see it on the video, nobody's But the
Speaker 1: league is not saying the point of emphasis is if
Speaker 1: it's not obvious, don't call it. The league is saying,
Speaker 1: this is a point of emphasis. That's a point of emphasis.
Speaker 1: So they're judging the officials on making these kinds of calls.
Speaker 1: So this is where we are. Yeah, this is where
Speaker 1: you have to where you are and how you have
Speaker 1: to adapt. It's the same reason why to to man
Speaker 1: Patricious credit it. I know there was the complaining a
Speaker 1: little bit about Will Redmond if there's too much contact
Speaker 1: down field. I was totally on board with Patricia not
Speaker 1: calling it because if you follow the stats one of
Speaker 1: the last twenty four when teams have been trying to
Speaker 1: get a p I call offer of you have been successful,
Speaker 1: those odds do not weigh in your favor. It's going
Speaker 1: to be what the call on the field is. And
Speaker 1: he made the right adjustment, I think, honestly. As I
Speaker 1: also wrote an insider inbox on Wednesday, Patricia said all
Speaker 1: the right things. He said, we need to play better,
Speaker 1: we need to finish drives, We need to do those things.
Speaker 1: He knew this game was in their hands and they
Speaker 1: and they let it. As you said, initially, the Lions
Speaker 1: let this game become subject to all these others, all
Speaker 1: the r G, all that type of stuff. And you know,
Speaker 1: Matt Prator was their m v P. He had a
Speaker 1: phenomenal game. But you can just going back to that
Speaker 1: well that many times you need to be able to execute,
Speaker 1: you need to get points off of takeaways. That's why
Speaker 1: the Packers were able to squeeze their way back in
Speaker 1: and too close on this with David bok tr I
Speaker 1: think one thing that said a lot about box t
Speaker 1: R two is after his holding penalty, he would out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that drive. He was
Speaker 1: out there talking to the ref minutes minutes between the
Speaker 1: end of the field goal or what however the play ended,
Speaker 1: and then the opening kickoff. He's trying to figure this out.
Speaker 1: He's working on him, showing him where he's going with
Speaker 1: his hands, and then and he's trying to have that
Speaker 1: dialogue and discord. That's what you need to be able
Speaker 1: to understand this. I'm not saying it played into how
Speaker 1: things went later on, but if he's going to make
Speaker 1: the corrections. He needs to have the communication. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Trey Flowers didn't, But the fact of the matter is, Mike,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, and you can apologize to
Speaker 1: Mrs Ford, you can apologize to every fan that has
Speaker 1: ever you know, warrened Lion's jersey. That's all well and good.
Speaker 1: The game is the game, the result is the result,
Speaker 1: and the call is the call. And in that particular case,
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers ended up getting called for it twice and
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions ended up losing. Yeah, one other thing
Speaker 1: on the officiating that I want to touch on A
Speaker 1: touched on it a little bit yesterday, and what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about is the fourth and goal play for the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, which of course was a huge call, a
Speaker 1: huge moment in the game because that's the difference between
Speaker 1: seven points and zero points. We talked about a lot
Speaker 1: of four point swings in this game, but this was
Speaker 1: a seven point swing, and to me, this was a
Speaker 1: perfect example of how the replay system is not being
Speaker 1: processed or adjudicated correctly in the sense that we saw
Speaker 1: on the field. The one side judge on the top
Speaker 1: of the screen was saying Packers ball, it was a
Speaker 1: stop short of the goal line. The guy, well Blakeman
Speaker 1: was next to him, was was was next the side.
Speaker 1: The side judge on the lower side of your TV
Speaker 1: screen was signaling touchdown. Blakeman at the top of the
Speaker 1: screen initially saw the one call and he actually signals
Speaker 1: first down the other way for the Packers, which is
Speaker 1: what the referee is supposed to do. Then suddenly, with
Speaker 1: no discussion at all amongst the officials on the field,
Speaker 1: Blakeman turns his microphone on and says, the called field
Speaker 1: is touchdown. Now, to me, it is absolutely obvious that
Speaker 1: Blakeman did what he did and said what he said,
Speaker 1: because if he calls it a touchdown, it goes to
Speaker 1: automatic review. Right, So then by saying by not saying
Speaker 1: the Packers got the stop, and by saying it's a touchdown,
Speaker 1: it goes to automatic review and Patricia doesn't have to
Speaker 1: challenge it. From the Lions side of things, the problem
Speaker 1: is the replay review rule gives all this weight to
Speaker 1: the call on the field. So the fact that is
Speaker 1: the official you're saying, oh, it's a touchdown, so it'll
Speaker 1: be automatically reviewed, we get to wash our hands of it.
Speaker 1: Because of replay. Well not really, because that call in
Speaker 1: the field matters when you go to review. So to me,
Speaker 1: the point I want to make with all this excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to lose my voice a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: is that the way that we replay rule is written
Speaker 1: with the call on the field taking precedence. It's an
Speaker 1: anequated notion. It's completely outdated when replay. I know you
Speaker 1: were young when replay came in in the nineties. Okay,
Speaker 1: the rule was written the way it was written because
Speaker 1: there were only a couple of camera angles and if
Speaker 1: a camera angle didn't catch really what happened, or there
Speaker 1: wasn't a good look at it, the call in the
Speaker 1: field had to matter, so you would stick with the
Speaker 1: call in the field. Un that's the video evidence showed you. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: when in this day and age, is the video not
Speaker 1: giving us a better look than what the guy on
Speaker 1: the field has, right, So if the video, if all
Speaker 1: these camera angles in the super sloma was always going
Speaker 1: to give us a better look, then call what you
Speaker 1: see on the video and to heck with the call
Speaker 1: of the field, just just get rid of just get
Speaker 1: rid of that part of the rule. Call what you
Speaker 1: see on the video, and to me, that fourth and
Speaker 1: goal call and the way the way it was processed
Speaker 1: and the way it was adjudicated just showed how messed
Speaker 1: up this whole thing. So the only thing you said
Speaker 1: it perfectly. I can't do any better than any of that,
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to try. But and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that I'm in. It's okay. You know, we're cool. Everyone's
Speaker 1: enjoying themselves. Uh. The one thing I want to add
Speaker 1: to this, though, the only part of this I took
Speaker 1: exception to the only part of it is that nobody
Speaker 1: went over and tried to ask the other side judge
Speaker 1: exactly what he saw. I don't even there. There was
Speaker 1: no discussion, There was no huddle, there was no there
Speaker 1: was no on field discussion as to Okay, how do
Speaker 1: we want to call this? They just called it a
Speaker 1: touchdown and sent it to review. I don't even care
Speaker 1: if you walk up to him and said, hey, did
Speaker 1: you watch Dancing with the Stars last night? I don't
Speaker 1: care if you walk up and discuss how their kids
Speaker 1: third grade math test went at the mouth, where at
Speaker 1: least okay, we discussed it. Now will make the call?
Speaker 1: This game is getting longer and longer with all these reviews,
Speaker 1: you're gonna save thirty two seconds by just signaling in
Speaker 1: a touchdown and throwing a you know, flipping a coin
Speaker 1: up in the air and being like, well, if somebody
Speaker 1: saw it, he looked, he put his hands up faster.
Speaker 1: I mean, they looked really decisive about that call. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing he must have seen something. Go over and discuss
Speaker 1: it with your side judge, then make ruling. Because I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you and I don't This is one
Speaker 1: of the places where I said I did not envy
Speaker 1: the officials. It was not a clear look. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of bodies. It's full, it's it was. It
Speaker 1: was a tough call, there's no doubt. But to have
Speaker 1: what appeared to be the better angle where Blakeman was
Speaker 1: with his side judge as opposed to where the other
Speaker 1: side judge was, to to just rule it blindly like
Speaker 1: that just was not good. It wasn't. I just want
Speaker 1: somebody at the league to acknowledge that this whole call
Speaker 1: on the field and the and the way it's given
Speaker 1: and the precedence that it's given in the replay process
Speaker 1: is just a completely anequated outdated notion happen. I know
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen because they don't want to
Speaker 1: further undercut the authority they've already taken away from the
Speaker 1: officials by how much goes to replay to begin with.
Speaker 1: So it's not going to happen. But in in the
Speaker 1: Mike spoffered like logical common sense world, it is completely anequated.
Speaker 1: There's no reason that that call on the field should
Speaker 1: matter when all these video angles are always not like
Speaker 1: it was in the nineties, But in they're always going
Speaker 1: to give you a better look than the guy in
Speaker 1: the field has in the first place. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's just completely inane that they they say the call
Speaker 1: in the field actually matters anymore. I just it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to Well, Mike, you could shuffle back into
Speaker 1: that little fantasy land where everything's peaches and cream and
Speaker 1: it's calls, and we're going to continue to live in
Speaker 1: the Hey, we'll see what happens on Sunday and hopefully
Speaker 1: everything works out for the best. All right, Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go crawl back into my cornera with that, and
Speaker 1: we're going to call it a wrap on this edition
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