1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Here's the Rap Rate Our podcast. My name is beat 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Elliot Wilson. Ready for some country ship Elliott, I'm here man. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: You got the shirt on though, Big crip Baby, he's 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: back again. Man, he's stepping off the production tip. He's 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: scared it with sharing it with some friends. But the 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: verse is still at the lyrics the the country boy 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: got it still got it? Yeah, Man, we got Big 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Crick coming up on that Rap Rate Our podcast. Wait 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: that was this is now? This wasn't his head man 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: cousin the buildings going on? Yes, sir, oh yeah, yeah, 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Like you know it was something el what I'm saying, 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, I feel like, you know, it's a 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: real statement, like to say, critic is here? Like what 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: what was? What? I was it important to make that statement? 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: It was? It really mean for people that were like, 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, the crip was here was your big breakthrough 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: right that everybody saw the listening to you now to 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: come back to nine years later is here exactly? Um. 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: The greatest thing is so next ship the tea, your 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: anniversity of cripples here, so rolling into that. I feel 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: like the confidence I have what I've been through in 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: my career, ups and downs of being an independent artists, 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: then being signed, then you're seeing what's happening with streaming, 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: and then being that artist where I'm bitter and I 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: might feel like people aren't listening to me and in 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: my music terms aggressive sometimes and they're finding that space 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: where forever in my a long time comes out and 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm just gonna be myself. I'm independent, 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm winning, you know what I'm saying. Me and my 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: team were together, we know what we're doing. We got 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: multi you know, on heels all of that. It's like 32 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm here now, Like I'm in 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: these circles and I'm around a lot of the O 34 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: G s and the legends are looking at me and 35 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: they're like, na, younger, you're doing your thing too, Like 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: now you where you need to be. And and then 37 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to even be around a Rico love him, like, man, 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: you're doing your supporters of disservice by not going even 39 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: farther with your music, Like your underground is cool, You've 40 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: been there, Like people know you can wrap, but what 41 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: else can you take your music signcle what else can 42 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: you say? Who all else can you work with? And 43 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: I think critics are just as me really showing people like, man, 44 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: I've been around, I've been doing this. If you was 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: unaware in the corner, and I pay attention, like now, 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: look at my catalog and look at the people that 47 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: I've worked with. Then look at the people I'm working 48 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: with now. And I deserve to be on this field, 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: and I'm on this field. I'm playing. I'm still hit 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: Ny Harme runs. Trust me that that caught my attention. 51 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: You see three hundred songs t that wass ain't you 52 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: still got the globe? So what keeps you motivating and inspired? 53 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: I would say the people, man, the people. And then 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: knowing that I haven't said enough yet, I still have 55 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: a lot more to say. Every day something happens in 56 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: the world. I have a conversation with somebody that I've 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: never met before, and it inspires me to to to write, 58 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: inspires me to to talk about whatever that particular topic was. 59 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: And then when you talk about the way production is 60 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: now and some of the producers have the opportunity to 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: work with, it just becomes this grand schemes, grand things. 62 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: It's just food with love. But it's for your soul, 63 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so for me. It's like, 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I ever could stop or even 65 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: if I wasn't rapping, I figure out a way to 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: be able to give people that same feeling musically. And 67 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: this album features mostly outside production. Definitely only produced one record, 68 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Blue Flame Ballet, you know what, Little Ballet is the 69 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: only one I needed it. I needed to mean this. 70 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it was one of six ways. She was like, man, 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: but I was like, I gotta have that one, and 72 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: um so blue Flame Ballet was the one I was 73 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: able to just get kind of funky with it, like 74 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of funk Parliament, um, you know 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: and all that and then sounding and field, and I 76 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: was able to do that. I don't know what the 77 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Blue Flame is, the legendary The legendary Blue Flame is 78 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: a famous strip club that I've wrapped about a number 79 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: of times. I mean, yeah, I mean it's just I 80 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: can appreciate the talent that goes into what these women 81 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: are able to do. It is amazing. Um it's like 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: Olympics a lot of the times, so like, I've never 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: seen anything of that nature, and I feel like doing 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: a song that you weren't necessarily here and then the 85 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: vibe and I was able to have this amazing singer, 86 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: anat Roll, singing it to give us operatic field. And 87 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I was able to bring a tab 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: of the theater to the idea of being in the strip, 89 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the strip club or playing ballet. And I plan on it, 90 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: but I don't know what we're gonna be able to 91 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: show that video because I still wanted to be nostalgic 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: to what strip clubs are like. But yeah, just my 93 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: spind on it. But why outside production? Usually do things 94 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: on your own? UM? So shout out to Rico Love 95 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: and had the oportunity to go to his music conference. UM, 96 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: I want to say, it's like two years ago and 97 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: Rico once again, he was on the panel, and Rico 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: kind of challenged me, like, yo, man, get in the 99 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: studio with me. Let's work on your next album. I 100 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: want to see where we can come up with. Um 101 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: I'd already been working on them at the time, but 102 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: knowing that it was I knew I was gonna have 103 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: an opportunity to work with other producers I might not 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: been aware of. Then. It was like, Yo, Danger Ligen, 105 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: the Danger want to work with you too. So getting 106 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: in with Dangel put me in a position where it's 107 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: like he's playing these beats. I'm like mind blown. I'm like, yo, 108 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: hold up, you know what I'm saying. But then for me, 109 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: it's like, now I got to elevate the way that 110 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: I think about approaching the record instead of just all right, 111 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: I got these eight balls, the twil balls to do it, Like, 112 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: now I want to approach the way I wrapped as 113 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: more of an instrument. How do I compliment this the 114 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: sonics of this, the drum casses, the pattern, switch it 115 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: up all the way. And then with that came we 116 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: just wanted to work with other producers from that from 117 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: the jump. Then you got DJ Camper, you got with 118 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the Michaels, you got Done Cooley one. You know, um, 119 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: don't forbid if I'm missing somebody else, but you know, 120 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: it's just like going on. But yeo, man, working with 121 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: these other people that gave me this this landscape or production, like, man, 122 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: I would have never made that for myself. And then 123 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: as the writer, I'm like, I'm getting this call and 124 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: get it right. And then it's a collective effort because 125 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: all of them on the level where if they feel 126 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: like I could have went a little harder, I could 127 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: have said I'm a little doper. Then they're gonna be like, yo, bro, 128 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: you Yeah. What was the most challenging wanting that way, 129 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: like to stit out to you that you was proud of, 130 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: like you you took the beat and like you really 131 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: made it your own. The most challenging one, oh Man, 132 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: Addiction was interested because when we did it, Addiction, Yeah, 133 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: it was like so Wayne and Sweetie, thank god they 134 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: was able to jump on the record. Kind of near 135 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: the end of the finalization of the album. I did 136 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the record in l a months before we decided to 137 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: use it, So it was probably like three o'clock in 138 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: the morning. Does let me I'm just wrapping. I'm just 139 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: going through records and just like well ricoes like bro, 140 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: I got this record from down Cooley on, Bro, we 141 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: need to work on this. I'm tired, but everybody else 142 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: is dumb awake, like everybody like we gotta let's just 143 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: do it. And so it was just kind of fighting 144 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: through my natural things like you know what, I just 145 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: want to go to hotel. I come back to it later, 146 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: and like trying to feed off the energy and then 147 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: seeing how far I could go with trying to make 148 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: something that I knew was like, this is a little 149 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone with the time and the tempo, 150 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: but how can I beat me? How can I kick 151 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: this cadence? And then Rico came over the concept hook 152 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: wise and then yeah, yeah, yeah, Man seem like Rico 153 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: loves was a key component. Definitely, Man, definitely, because again 154 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: he gonna go in there even be like, Bro, we 155 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: try and make the big We need to make the record, 156 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: bro a little and you and wrap and wrap. It's 157 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: not like a no, just dumb it down like now, 158 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: I was like wrapped, you know, and the record like 159 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: obvious shows that because the thick con verse, like I 160 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: don't care if you learn it or not. It's about 161 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: me being as intricated as I possibly can't tell the 162 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: story that meant something to me. So yeah, it fair 163 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: to say that this album is a sequel to I 164 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's hard to say. I think it's 165 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Remember when I did Crip was here for me? It 166 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: was about it was like a Lance Hurrah. It was like, man, 167 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: I have twenty something records and it's some West Coast, 168 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: some East coast song, got the New Orleans bounds, something 169 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: in Mississippi Country you know, um, And I was like, 170 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give people everything because I needed them this. 171 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: If this is my last chance, then I gotta let 172 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: them know I can rap and I can do this. 173 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: I think create is here is like that me coming 174 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: back to, like, you know what, I can wrap on 175 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: any kind of record. I'm capable of singing and I'm 176 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: capable of changing my My cadence is more the juxtapositions 177 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: in the flow, like it's it's ways to do it 178 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: different and showcasing that almost kind of like how I 179 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: feel like I did on Crip was here the showcase 180 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I can I can wrap with anybody or any kind 181 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: of sound way. Really good that J Coole got man. Yeah, yeah, 182 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: that was that your first time because you know you 183 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: did something with klid before, but it's your first time 184 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: working with him like on your own individual songs. Definitely, 185 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I was saying that, yeah it I mean, I think 186 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: it's for me as time and as everything. Bro. I 187 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: believe even the kind of record it is, Um, it 188 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: made sense for it to be now, even when he's 189 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: at in his life and why I'm at it creatively 190 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: as well, because you know, normally you want the radio record, 191 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: right you're trying to make a certain record and you're 192 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: trying to you know, is it? I think the timing 193 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: now isn't about that more or less, like how can 194 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: we make something powerful, something that will um kind of 195 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: help people to help them understand a certain topic that 196 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: they might be going through. And UM shout out to 197 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: with the Michaels because he produced the record. He's also 198 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: on the hook UM and I had the record and 199 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: I just knew Cold was like the perfect person. What 200 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: do you think connecting to that man? Because I think 201 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: he can understand even in what we do, not only 202 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: do with the society. And maybe the risk is he's 203 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: taken as an artist in order to like just voice 204 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: his opinion no matter what people say, and having to 205 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: take that backlash and come out from it. But you 206 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: want to protect that on your integrity, but your family 207 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: and your friends around you, and you want people to know, like, 208 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: this is what I believe in and I'm believing it's 209 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: stronger enough that I'm willing to risk my career on it. 210 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: And if you hear his verse um compared to mind, 211 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: it's for me, it kind of it kind of brings 212 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: it all full circle because me, I'm like all right, 213 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: any streets, things are going crazy. It's a lot going 214 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: on this world. If it's me and my family, I 215 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: gotta do what I gotta do, take care of mind right, 216 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: to make sure we all get home. Him is to 217 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: prove it perspective, if you believe in me as an 218 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: interviews with a person and what I bring to the table, 219 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: and show me some love and support. I don't necessarily 220 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: know the woman he was talking about, but now I know, 221 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: ye now man exactly, And so I'm pretty sure like 222 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to us as artists and how we 223 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: interact with the people are that we see and meet 224 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: that supported us, I wouldn't be in a situation. I 225 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: mean if people didn't listen to my music and didn't 226 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: want to see me perform and didn't believe in what 227 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: I was doing. And so I think I think more 228 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: artist probably should take like a page out there, like 229 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: sometimes they for artists to truly appreciate some of the 230 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: law fans, because you always want your audience to be 231 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: bigger right now for the bigger things. Yeah, sometimes you 232 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: can't lose sight of like the foundation of certain there's 233 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: certain fans. I'm it with you that you know that 234 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: they may from the beginning shows like like the show 235 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: is turned into family barbecues literallyast like I've seen people 236 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: and they it was they were they were just friends 237 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: at one point. Then they end up becoming couples at 238 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: the show, then they get married, then they have kids, 239 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and now I'm like, I'm like dapping them up, I'm 240 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: like daving them over, and I'm like how the baby doing. 241 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: But that kind of connection is a connection that you 242 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: can't run from in this industry, you know. That's the 243 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: connection that as we move around and we meet people, 244 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: we create a bigger family. Yeah, And so you have 245 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: to remember that when you go in the studio and 246 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: you decided to write some of these songs or when 247 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: you decide to interact with new people, because they just 248 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: they're part of the family too. They might not have 249 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: been in the beginning, but they're gonna run into that 250 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: same person at the show like, oh, you didn't know 251 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: about this, I just tut it down record that he did. 252 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about this. Yeah, yeah, definitely it's 253 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: a connection. How you said Felting put yeah he put 254 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: me on yeah yeah connection yeah yeah, and then he 255 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: put on the dot you mentioned family. Amazing thing content 256 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: peace you did or you got to have a conversation 257 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: with your father and came what inspired that to do that? Oh? Man, um, 258 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: it's if I think for me, people, especially my team, right, 259 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: so we have conversations and the Dutch Steve oh very 260 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: big on me doing things that like when I'm having conversation, like, man, 261 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: if that's how you feel to do one of those, 262 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: they do something like that, and so they know the 263 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: bond that I helped my father and him being the 264 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: person that listens to every record I put out, even 265 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: the verses that sometime like Pops, how did you hear 266 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: that that? Man? I don't know, but it's jamming, you 267 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and just being very aware of 268 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: what I got going on in my career, and so 269 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: they feel like it would be really great for me 270 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: to have a sit down with my pops and it's 271 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of hash out a lot of the emotional things 272 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: that I may have went through in the beginning of 273 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: my career, but he was able to see and the 274 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: competitive spirit he gave me and how it helped and 275 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: then it started to hurt me let on in my 276 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: career and then diving into that because I think people 277 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: not only need to hear that conversation just me and 278 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: like fathering something, but just all the other artists that 279 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: feel like they haven't made whoever and they're like proud 280 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: and really they have and they just need him to say, Yo, 281 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: you got it, You're good. Yeah. So yeah, you're still 282 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: calling them before you going on the airplane. Well, now, 283 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: long time you talk about Yeah, yeah I call, I 284 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: call around, call around, y'all make phone call on flights 285 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: just because it makes me. It makes me comfortable. And 286 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: even if even if you got to go to work 287 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: in the morning, I'm not tripping he got that call 288 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: like hey man, I'm on the weight going down the 289 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: road to l A. Just won't let you know. They're 290 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: going back to your competitive spirit because you've always been 291 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: like biging declarations and always feel like you know you 292 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: may not be getting to do that you deserve. You 293 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: said you're going through a transition. Now you have the 294 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: beility to cheer other people on definitely, and noticed like 295 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: talk about that transformation, how how how tough that was? 296 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Man Um. I think it's when you get to a 297 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: point where you just want the accolades. You see what 298 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: other people are getting and you feel like you might 299 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: deserve that same thing. Yeah, I came to a realization 300 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: for myself that even if I got this stuff, it 301 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't make me happy. A lot of the things 302 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: around me, and the fact that I was able to 303 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: help my family make the music that I wanted to make, 304 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: um be like literally hang out with the people that 305 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd hang out with, have conversations with 306 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Bumby just about life, and it's like, man, look I'm good, 307 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: Like this is great, Like you know what I'm saying. 308 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: And from that point it came to doing the album 309 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: forever in my a long time and just totally just 310 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: doing whatever I wanted to do, doing a double album. Whatever. 311 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: We ain't with the labels like hey, we're gonna drop 312 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty two songs. Why not? At some point it just 313 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: didn't matter. We're humans, and I started like them like, man, 314 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know where it feels like to go through that, 315 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: but just no, bro, if you need to hit me up, man, 316 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: you need to go get a steak or something chill 317 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: you can, you know. And once I got to that point, 318 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: it just it made it so much easier. Like I'm like, 319 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: man on that verse hard or that track crazy like 320 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: other people. And I think it might have been a 321 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: shocker to some people because I'm hitting them like, hey, bro, 322 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: let's work sometimes because they talk, you know, I'm under 323 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: a rock. I'm like to myself. But really it's like, no, man, 324 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: I always wanted to work. I think I just was 325 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: afraid of the note or like if I do get 326 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: the note and I'm like, I ain't rocking with me 327 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: that I had to let go of. That had a 328 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: line on every time talk about being in competition like myself, yourself. 329 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: If I could with me, there's no second place. So 330 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: when did that become apparent to you because like you 331 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: are a competitive artist? Oh man? Because it got to 332 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: a point of the feels in MyD a long time, 333 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: I guess um that people started to look at if 334 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: I heard if somebody gave me an opinion it was 335 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: based off of the record I dropped before that it 336 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: was based off the freestyle I drop before, It was 337 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: based off twelve or twelve. It was like, oh but 338 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: returning forever still my my jump, you know what I'm saying. 339 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: And so it wasn't them actually look at me like man, 340 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: but y'all don't sound like you know they were always 341 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: going back to the records that I put out, and 342 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: so at that point I was like, oh no, I'm tripping, 343 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: like I've carved out of space for myself. I can't 344 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: be like the homie. I can't be like this artist. 345 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: It's me. And once I focused on end's like I'm good. 346 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Like I just gotta keep being solid, keep testing myself, 347 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: not only lyrically, but um just visually, like even the 348 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: visuals not everything has to feel different. And now it's 349 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: almost like since I let that guard down, there's so 350 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: many other people that came aboard this, like Buch she 351 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: literally did the videos and she probably gonna do all 352 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: of them, but she killing them like she didn't create energy. 353 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: And it's like but it's like just being that free 354 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: to live. People like, yeah, man, you you've seen me 355 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: come up? What you think I should do? How you 356 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: feel about my visuals? Now? You know he is a 357 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: very proprocative visual I like that one Plantation Records. Man, 358 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: you gotta put that medicine in the good food man. 359 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: That scene. Like the people that haven't seen the video 360 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: like this all of a sudden that I think I'm 361 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: watching the rap video Underrated underground Rappers and lyricists in 362 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: this country. That was a real scene. Shoot, mind you 363 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: that we didn't get it right the first time, so 364 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: they had to do that a few times, and they 365 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: need different shots of it, you know what I'm saying. 366 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: And so he's like literally saying it over and over again, 367 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: and then every time the cut he like a man, 368 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: I just want you to know. I don't think I 369 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: feel anything like this at all at all. And then 370 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: the child touches here like during this state touches, oh god, 371 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: and the dudes like, hey, man, I just want you 372 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: to know. I do not feel comfortable, but you know, 373 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: but I think it's important that we do push the 374 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: limits and boundary just a little bit. I'm pretty sure 375 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: with some people are maybe some artists around that might 376 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: have been uncomfortable seeing that that that particularly same, But 377 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: it's important to know, like, man, when you get these 378 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: deals and stuff that you you want to make sure 379 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: your pat working on. You want to make sure you're 380 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: actually presenting who you are as an indivisible country. But 381 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: because once you either get older or you're not the 382 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: primary source of income from them, things might change, you know. 383 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: And so thank god streaming came. They didn't know what 384 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: I was capable of doing. I was able to get 385 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: off a little bit easier than some artists do um 386 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I can celebrate. That's why I do 387 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: the Deacon spin in the video. And you know that 388 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: celebration that smile is real, you know, like sing from 389 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: real life sit I would say so, I mean from 390 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: the perspective of just being the kind of artist where 391 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: you're in a position where you don't if you if 392 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to get your point across, you're trying to 393 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: create music from a certain perspective in place, and if 394 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: if they don't really believe in it, then it's just 395 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: really gonna go out. Or if it does go out, 396 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: is it gonna go out the way that I needed to? 397 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Does anybody really care about what I'm doing and the 398 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: building and or they connected to they do care, then 399 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: how much? Or is it something else gonna come sweep 400 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: me through? But I'm locked into this position where I 401 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: can't really go anywhere, I can't really do anything, and 402 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, so it's I mean, it's it's one of 403 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: the things where as the artist you you obviously want 404 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: to be signed, you wanna you know, go to that 405 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: next level. I've seen that all my life documentaries and yo, 406 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not for everybody. Some people have 407 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: made it work for themselves. Maybe they figured it out. 408 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: Me on the other hand, I'm telling my story didn't 409 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: necessarily work for me, but I learned a lot from 410 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: it to the point where I can have a multi 411 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: and I know how to partner now because will never 412 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: be signed directly. You gotta partner with me. I got 413 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: my whole machine and I got my own mothership, you know. So. Yeah, 414 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: So you think at this point you found closure with 415 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: that situation. Yeah, I say so definitely. Man, Look, it 416 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: was a learning listen. I think I needed to learn 417 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: that in order to appreciate what I got going on 418 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: now and to to move forward as a businessman. You 419 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the twelve for twelve freestyles. I remember on the 420 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Flying Lotus one you said you put up the bullshit 421 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: to put on for the South, Like, what was the 422 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: stuff that you had to put up with? I mean 423 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: a little man. You go do an interview, people are like, hey, bro, 424 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: ho feel to see buildings, And I'm like, man, we 425 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: got buildings, bro, we got building man. Like man the 426 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: horseback Man, You'll have your on horseback, No, we don't 427 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: like riding in cars. Mostly old schools like old schools. 428 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: But it was just a misconception of being from where 429 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm from and what that interview might turn into. Or 430 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: you're talking to somebody and they ship down and they 431 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: say things like, man, we didn't expect you to talk 432 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: like that. So it's like it's not even it's it's 433 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: more about being misinformed than anything. So I can't really 434 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: if you've never been there before, you wouldn't know. So 435 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: there's two ways I could have really took that ideas. 436 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: I could have well, but two ways I normally did. 437 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: I get frustrated about it, and then now I'm like, 438 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: let me rap about this and take you there, or 439 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit down and explain you man, just 440 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: come down sometimes see how we move. It's just dealing 441 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: with that and like becoming um bitter at times. I 442 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: feel like I had all this pressure to prove that 443 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: ain't like that, we ain't likely Yeah, we got it, 444 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: like you gotta come down there, like don't pay attention 445 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: to what's in the movies and all that stuff. And 446 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: so I dealt with that a lot of my career. 447 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: And I'm laughing the underground laughing. Yeah, yeah, you know what, 448 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: you're laughing on the ground, Yeah, laughing on the ground. 449 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: I've heard about it. B review review, Yeah yeah, favorite, 450 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: Top Team, Top Team, Worst Worst. I was no morefore 451 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: but but see that was upon working on that album. 452 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: I was I will say that was a part of 453 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: me that was aggressive and I wanted people to understand 454 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: and get instead of instead of taking you. There was 455 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: always like I was forcing you to come then yea. 456 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: And when you go back list of stuff you said, 457 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: you can hear you the anger and that. Yeah. I 458 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: like music. I like Chip on the shoulder, I mean, 459 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: but not with anxiety. I'm talking about like I'm talking 460 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: about you're talking about Okay, we got one more day 461 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: to record this. You get right, and you can tell 462 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I might have could have said that 463 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: word a little bit better. Um. But even even with that, 464 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: it's like dealing with sample clears and stuff. That's a 465 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: long story. But when it comes to that album, I 466 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: could tell that. Yeah, I was frustrated because I feel 467 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: like they don't get it. They people aren't gonna get it, 468 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Like I gotta show them. I got a shown and 469 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: it shows. But over time, I catalytically like man, I'm okay, 470 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Like it's it's good, it's this nixt route, let's do 471 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: this's different. And it just kept kept going from when 472 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: you're here in the music now, like what what feelings 473 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: you get when you listen back on this new album, 474 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: Like in terms of your mind, state of temperament, likes, 475 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: there's certain emotions that you feel like overall always freedom. 476 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: It's freedom there. It's a confidence that I think I 477 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't have as much back in the day 478 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: as far as what I wanted to say verbally, are 479 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: a punch line here there, or doing a record and 480 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: I having punch lines at all, you know, just feeling 481 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get straight to the point on this um, 482 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: even from a hook writing standpoint or singing standpoint. Um, 483 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: it's all more like this is exactly what I wanted 484 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: to say. This is how I wanted to say it, 485 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: and some people might get it, some people won't, But 486 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: this is how I wanted to convey my art. And 487 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't like back in the day. It was like again, 488 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: I know, I'm attached to the South, and so I 489 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: got to do this a certain sound and people expecting 490 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: this this album was more like I really want to 491 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: see how far I can be creative the sound board 492 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: or whatever, and then just up yeah and just applying 493 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: my bust effort to it. What's the whole rollout plan? 494 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: Because like you snuck up like that and the last 495 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: year different what your mind state was. Man. Yeah, But 496 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: TDT was the beginning of me working with Rico Love 497 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: and Danger um Uh in Miami, So it wasn't like 498 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: we wanted to come directly out of forevers of my 499 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: along time and drop an album. So it's like trying 500 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: to do an EP kind of test the waters. Um. 501 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: And this is also around the time that Steve Ow 502 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: and Dutch were very like, hey, man, let's just let's 503 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: just create, not necessarily make it attached to all your 504 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: previous works. Because I've been telling this story for a 505 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: few years from Catlaptic up to now, so I know, 506 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm let's just do something. It's a little free you. 507 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: And so that's when you get the record energy, you 508 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: get the work the record um hire or you get 509 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: um learned from Texas and pick yourself up because it's 510 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: me just like, man, we're in the studio, let's make 511 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: fifteen songs and oh man, let's these gonna want to 512 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: be gonna choose a jam and let's do it kind 513 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: of thing. And then it caught energy caught for real, 514 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: and so it's like, Okay, the freedom that I had 515 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: making this EP is the same way I need to 516 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: go into this album where I'm not trying to like 517 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: put this together with this and I'm like telling this 518 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: and then sometimes I'm like, oh, well, this doesn't fit 519 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: unless it's like like no, man, just be free creatively 520 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: and then see what comes out of it. To the 521 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: point where I recorded a lot of music for this album, 522 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: it was definitely collective effort as far as my team 523 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: with everybody like man, bro, let's just try this different, 524 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: or maybe work with this producer, work with this artist, 525 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: because it was important that I got out of my 526 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: comfort zone to the Aximum um and young Man and 527 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: shows sonically even how some records like out of Space 528 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: still fit right there with a record like um Life 529 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: and the Sun, but then creat here got the energy 530 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: and the bounce just the same as uh the record 531 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: made off Dude, but it's different. It's different fields, different cases, 532 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: and yeah, man, and still eate a weight in basin 533 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel like you had that 534 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: confidence on pick itself up, like it're so motivational. For 535 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: definitely it could have made the cut. Oh man, No, 536 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: I mean so it was. It was. It was a 537 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: difficult process of what to put on the album. First off. 538 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, it was a lot. It's a 539 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: lot of songs that didn't come out and lord Wood 540 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: and they still got their time at some point. But 541 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: it was literally like all of us sitting in the 542 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: room going over probably fifty four or sixty maybe sixty, 543 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: kneeling it down to probably like twenty to listen to 544 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: those over again, getting the eight team, kneeling it down 545 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: the fifteen. We was in there from three to like, 546 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: now you believe in doing the full body of world 547 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: deaf albums? Yeah, I mean we got to do, you know, 548 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: I want you to. I mean, but I also make 549 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: music for your car, and most people spend more time 550 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: in the car than do anywhere other than sleep. So 551 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: for me, it's like if you get the point A 552 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: to point B, now that's how I'm gonna get you. 553 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: And I've traveled enough with it now at all. The 554 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: two previously released tracks that made the cut, where Energy 555 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: and learn From Texas. Why those two songs you think 556 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: survived well, I would say energy because we dropped the 557 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: video and it just went to hold another level. They 558 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: already had had the numbers and the excitement that we've 559 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: seen and people posting it on social media, which is 560 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: also a healthy way of gaining I mean, people are 561 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: interacting with the song, and so that was a no brainer. 562 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: And then just from the sports era, like and how 563 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: I feel about performing that particular record, Um, I'm from Texas. 564 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Is I have this thing where I not only do 565 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I have to always do or due to Texas or 566 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: how much I have knowledge I game, like musically and 567 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: culturally from Texas. But again, we saw how people were 568 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: really relating to the learn from Texas aspect and the song, 569 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: and so that does not mean they pick yourself up, 570 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: don't get performed now, hold on, I'm not gonna hold 571 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: the South to and and unlike the last album, I mean, 572 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: if people came in there tour, I did literally that 573 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: whole album. This this tour is gonna be a tad 574 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: bit different. So I don't know some classics, Yeah, don't 575 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: don't get your twist to get what I'm saying. But 576 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: those two records. I think this is what not only 577 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: sonically made sense in the flow of it, and we 578 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: just saw a different kind of response to them as well. 579 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: It was important to pay homash to Texas from Mississippi, man, 580 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: because Mississippi and Texas on an underground music level, they 581 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: like system. Brother, it's one of their family. You know 582 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With you blow up, you stay there 583 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: and you just keep hearing your market. Um. And then 584 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: again you g K were one of the first. It's 585 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: like the first group I saw that they were from 586 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: a country time like mine, like poor authors, like super small, 587 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: and they way to do what they were what they did. 588 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: There was an unapologetically country thing happening while they were 589 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: making the music too. Maybe some people didn't understand what 590 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: they were cortially talking about, but I totally got it. 591 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: And it made me proud to be like, I'm count 592 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: you know what, like um yeah, And so for me 593 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: to just paying homage and then talking about Slim Thug, 594 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about s G talking about uh, the ghetto boys. 595 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, are people It's week you're 596 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: talking about Paul Walk for me and there, you know 597 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, oh lord, don't forget some night 598 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, screw You know what I'm saying, the way 599 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: you know, bonding boys like it's you see, you know 600 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Most you know what I'm saying. Now, 601 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, what's it like forgetting some people I'm so sorry? 602 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: You know, saying Okay, your zero you know, I shout 603 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: out to kill you know, my bad Wolf, the Michaels 604 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: from H Time. What's it like being such a fan 605 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: of all that and a big U G K fan 606 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: and then really becoming true friends with bumb It's it's crazy. 607 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's like to be with people that 608 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: don't know you produced a lot of music with Yeah, 609 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: I call produced his last album. I mean, we're trying 610 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: to tread it. I'm sorry. And then um, just being 611 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: able to have him on country Ship, you know what 612 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Being able to have a multitude of other 613 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: records with him, and then at at the same time 614 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: I can call them like, O G, I'm going through something. 615 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: You know just what you think I should do? You 616 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: know this is giving me some anxiety? How you think 617 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: that's move on this? And him like really hit me 618 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: with something like well, this is how I deal with 619 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: it when it when I was going through that in 620 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: the industry, and I mean, it's it's crazy, it's really crazy. 621 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: What's something about Bumby that we don't know that would 622 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: probably surprise people? Man, we just ain't gonna be as 623 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: a problem. Maybe some people don't know. Bun will have 624 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: a full blown conversation with you and write his verse 625 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: at the same time, which makes me wonder if he 626 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: was really listening to you and conversation. Could he be? 627 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know because we've done some records. While 628 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I did not, like I'm pretty sure 629 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: we were talking about it did not help with his writing. 630 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We're talking about Gumball, and 631 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: he writes a super lyrical record about being like the U. 632 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: G K Trio king like there's no way that the 633 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: Gunball conversation up there, and you know, so I don't know. 634 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: But and then og maybe fifteen minutes to write a verse. 635 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: You're pushing it on that like one of the one 636 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: take to break it to this house and dude or 637 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: no sense, no, let's see I'm talking about but he 638 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: But then that's that's just one song. Out of the 639 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: six songs they're doing the day because he won the 640 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: one like now playing we got played the next beat 641 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: like what we're doing, what we're working on? Still on yo? 642 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: He on it. So yeah mentioned um people that you 643 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: pay homage to you. I know that I believe you 644 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: know you kind of tip that n Yeah, and you 645 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: know you said you can't believe what happened. No one 646 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: can how his passing affected you. I know you said 647 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: he took a break on social media, definite to process everything. Man, Um, 648 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: so the believe record we we we literally shent off 649 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: and reached out to to to jump on. I seen 650 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: up at an event in Atlanta not too long ago. 651 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: Well it was probably a month before that, and I'm 652 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: still working on the album at the time. You know, 653 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to Miami with danging them and we do 654 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: that song and he was like, who can we get 655 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: on this? And then um does also has had a relationship, 656 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, years ago with with Nip and I knew 657 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: him when I first signed a cinematic music group. Because yeah, 658 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: and Um, you know, reached out like, man, you know 659 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: you'd be perfect for this kind of thing. Bro. I 660 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: was playing that record for somebody that morning and then 661 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: found out that had happened. And so it's one of 662 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: those things where it's like I I social media is 663 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: what it is. I'm like I am most people when 664 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: things like that happened, specially people I know, like they 665 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: here trying to do something positive and for that to 666 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: happen to the homie, I kind of just fell back, 667 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't recording, we making no music. And 668 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: then then you got the whole thing where you're trying 669 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: to figure out, oh, we's down the road, like man, 670 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: we're putting this on the album or not? Are we 671 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: putting anybody else on this song? And I'm like, I 672 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: don't think so, Like I really can't. I don't see 673 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: how we could. Um, And then trying to figure out 674 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: a way to pay homage to the homie with that, Um, 675 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, that was real, dog, you know 676 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you see the positivity and you 677 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: see where it was, like what the homie was going 678 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: with it and and how people responding to it, and 679 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: then you see excuse my friends to funk she happened, right, 680 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, dog, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, but I'm glad 681 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: that's part of it. That record had to make the cup? 682 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: What's the overall statement of that record? Man? Because you 683 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: just want to believe that everything gonna be okay. You 684 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: just want to you know. And the beginning of the 685 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: verse sounds and stars are more aggressive from how I 686 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: believe in the beginning of my career that all it 687 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: took was a few records, and then I get signed 688 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: and I get on and it turns into a longer 689 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: bout than that, and you finally get on. You want 690 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: to help everybody, But then you're about is a it's 691 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: a it's a tab bit more sporadic. Now, it's like 692 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: more things that you have to pay attention to. And 693 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: then when you get to the second verse of just 694 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: believing that people want to see you do well, people 695 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: want to see you healthy. The things that you are 696 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: taking in and your mind and your body and soul 697 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: were really supposed to be there to help you. And 698 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: then tragedy strikes or things don't work out the way 699 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: you want them to. Um, And yeah, it's just an 700 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: overall thing about life. And I'll try out to sum 701 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: it up the best I possibly can. Yeah, And you 702 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: said yourself, you you want therapy and and definitely and 703 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: definitely depression and things like and and mentioning that and 704 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: and that song is important too, and it's it sprinkles 705 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: of it and other records. I think Out of Space 706 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: is the record where I kind of talk about just 707 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: wanting to not be around people, to kind of want 708 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: to be off on my own, about myself, but then 709 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: try trying to find a more creative way. And then 710 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: drinking sessions, drinking drinking sessions straight on right, and people 711 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: know I can go there, but then how can I 712 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: how can I change the dynamic a little bit sonically 713 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: for a person that may not be as aware of 714 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: anxiety or aware of the they go to depression, they 715 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: might hear that song black Man. I sometimes ride around 716 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: in my car too, like I don't want to be 717 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: bothering or sometimes just fall back like And it's just 718 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: trying to create that soundscape too, to make it more 719 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: worldly and still about me. In the same thing that 720 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: reminded me drinking sessions of the NAS record Drunk by Myself, 721 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: the stage gave me that. Yeah, it's like, sometimes you 722 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: don't feel like talking. The people just want to be 723 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: cut off from the world, and so and that's and 724 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: that's a great thing and sometimes it's not you decided 725 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: because you remember we used to get down to be 726 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: drinking whiskey, Like what was that process? Like changing like 727 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: health wise, like eating better. It's hard to go to 728 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: the gym in the morning if you're talking about the 729 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: hangovers you can have. Literally you get older, your body 730 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: is dealing with it differently, the days go by a 731 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: little different, hangovers last longer. Then you find out this 732 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: very valuable thing, especially go to therapy. The hangovers encourage 733 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: irrational behavior thought processing. So a lot of times when 734 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: people aren't dealing with their emotions and they hit their 735 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: vice hard, they wake up the next morning and still 736 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: can't quite grasp what's going on, and that they make 737 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: irrational decisions. It could be a phone call, it could 738 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: be a text message because you're not hydrated right, And 739 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: so it's it's very important that I kind of dialed 740 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: it back, especially on writing this album. There was days 741 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: where it was just a shot of coffee, you know 742 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, hey man, I just need to 743 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: stay away his coffee. It's gonna help me write this verse. 744 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: But instead of instead a shot of some brown you know. 745 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, we used to get down back and there 746 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: was cool we used to be. But I also a 747 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: way the whole lot more bad than to you know 748 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a large here too. Now. That 749 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: was just to prove I can still do it. I think, 750 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: I think, if you can still grow your hair, do it, 751 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so yeah, I decided 752 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: to do it. And I'm gonna keep letting and growing 753 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: to something go bad. Yeah, And I want to say 754 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: this on behalf of my father. My father had long 755 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 1: hair too. He's not balled in through natural causes. They 756 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: had a curl and most stuff and back in the 757 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: day that it's currel super cool. But they do something 758 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: to you, I'm saying. But other than that, he would 759 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: definitely have the heir I got. You want to shot 760 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: you out, Pops? Not your fault. Did yours want to 761 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: make music? Was that his dream? No? My pops wanted 762 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: to be My pops want to be a baseball player. 763 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: I played, Yeah, I played baseball because my pops And 764 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: then uh, he went to school to be an extra 765 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: a technician and it couldn't finish because you had to 766 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: take care of Why Why did he feel so qualified 767 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: to really be critiquing your music and know what, you know, 768 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: what's good because he was gonna be honest with me. 769 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean at then the day him and my uncle 770 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: Jay probably too, most honest people I know. And the 771 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: minute I play something, they would immediately like that's trash, James, 772 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: maybe you need to do something else. I mind you do. 773 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm making the beats in the kitchen. I'm just making 774 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: beats in the kitchen, and the kitchen is like you know, 775 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: the then and the kitchen together, so they either watch 776 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: the TV sports, playing the game. I'm making everything in 777 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: my here from I cannot wait to unplug the jack 778 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: so I could live it everybody here and out. When 779 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm playing showing up now, that's just terrible, you know 780 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then they're gonna let me ride. 781 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: I can play three minutes because I'm putting breakdown, you 782 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying here the whole piece, what you 783 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: got going on? And then it's like, yeah, that's terrible, 784 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: you know. But then it went from being as terrible, 785 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: it's like okay, you know what I'm saying, like oh 786 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: you did that, and then it went from there like 787 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: put that on CD from me. You know what I'm saying, 788 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: and then it just kind of kept going and then 789 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: I stopped putting my words on top of it, and 790 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: then it became it's like, oh snap, Like then I 791 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: go sample a song that they remember brothers and I 792 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: got him, you know what I'm saying, Yes, of course, yeah, 793 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, but back then, it's it's almost like if 794 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: you're playing a video game against your older brother and 795 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: he beat you, You're not necessarily gonna stop playing the game. 796 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: You're gonna play when he ain't playing. You can't get 797 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: better at it while he outside. Then he's gonna play 798 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: you one day and then low kick on motor car back, 799 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: don't kill you. Know what I'm saying, I don't know 800 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: how you did it? What you mean? And so for me, 801 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: and it was it was like I had to I 802 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: had to somehow get the approval of get them to 803 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: the point where they liked it. And I think that 804 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: was the beginning of me wanting to prove myself and 805 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: it was healthy and it became something that kind of 806 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: heard me let off. What did he think about doing 807 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: the whole conversation thing? What's his feedback? Oh? Man, he 808 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: hit me because he went to the Mississippi picnic. You 809 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's like, hey, Jay, He's like, man, 810 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: everybody has asked me about the interview. You know what 811 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They saying he said a little real calm, 812 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, really collected. You know what I'm saying. You know, 813 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: everybody liked it. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's 814 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: all like, yo, you're getting it shine, you know, and 815 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: which is great. And then for him to be the 816 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of father with a lot of people know that 817 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: he was definitely pushing me, not only in the baseball field, 818 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: but even musically throughout. It was like, yeah, yeah, it 819 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: meant a lot to him because you have a conversation 820 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: like that with your mom, of course, of course, but 821 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna have like a totally different conversation a whole hour. 822 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: My mother's libel to tell y'all about my birth. And 823 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: then it's like it's gonna be like what it's gonna 824 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: be like my birth and what I used to do 825 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: as a kid. It's gonna be like before we know, 826 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: it was like my mom was gonna have some music question, 827 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: but now I gotta tell him about this picture too. 828 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: It's gonna be that dynamic. But no, mom, dude, would 829 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: definitely be something we wouldn't have to because on the 830 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: last something Mississippi, you said she getting a teacher. Yeah, 831 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: my mom is a third grade teacher. I literally went 832 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: and just child like I was going his mother's day. 833 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: I went down, I was want to see you, and 834 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna holler at the third grade class and 835 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: I end up meeting the whole school right and it 836 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: was just like take pictures with everybody, sign autographs and 837 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: kicking and it was it was crazy because I remember 838 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: to some degree being that young and m it was 839 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: like it was exciting for me to see how excited 840 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: they were. And a lot of kids kept asking me 841 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: if my shoes but Lens, I was confused, like your 842 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: third grade, Like how do you know? I'm like, I'm 843 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: like no, I but it was important for me to 844 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: do that, man, And I'm excited for for my mom's 845 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: doing because she's always been like like math genius on 846 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: the low, but then forest teaching us in school books 847 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's a passion. You mentioned Mississippi earlier. 848 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: I think about the other record you have, like skits 849 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: and like who are those guys man Carlos Mill and 850 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: Chico bean man. Yo, oh man, that that is. That 851 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: is a whole another conversation. The boys so hilarious, bro, 852 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: and we had so much more content, but we had 853 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: to figure out how to narrow it down. But the 854 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: idea of the album too, and a lot of the 855 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: reason why they're talking as prestigious they don't this is 856 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: like this is like high end country ship, you know 857 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like me elevating the idea of 858 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: what people think either normally talk about all the way 859 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 1: to do it right, which is another in the Blue Flame, 860 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: Bad Lake. Um. But once they had once it was like, 861 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah, man, we're doing high end countryhip. That's when 862 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: they end up doing. But they heard Mississippi. Then they 863 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: went in and did the skid and then the way 864 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: they would talk to each other about the horns and 865 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: all this. So I was like, how do you country ship? 866 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: We don't want it's like some tuck seedough coufling, you 867 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, kind of vibe straight, but it 868 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: swangers on a cheriot, you know what I'm saying. It's 869 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: like old schools still apart here, you know. It's like, yeah, man, 870 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: so that was your idea to bring them in. Carlos 871 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: Miller reached out and I wanted him to come listen 872 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: to the album. Um, and then I played a few 873 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: records for him, but just because I'm a fan of 874 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: them and what they're doing same um and yeah, he 875 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: was like, yo, bro' gonna bringing Cheko through too, And 876 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm like big because I was like, yo, row they 877 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: didn't do a skit and so they both get in 878 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: there and be the dynamic is ridiculous. They some freestyle kings. 879 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: I tell you the black It's crazy. It was idea 880 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,479 Speaker 1: was to do these murals all across Man. I gotta 881 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: shout out of my team for that man once again, 882 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: Man Dutch uh stev Oh, and just them putting and 883 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: curating a wave of something other than me doing the music. 884 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, we do the covers. You know. Conceptually I 885 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: come up with I want the album flow and all 886 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: that stuff right. But this time, not only was I 887 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: creatively have been working so much on the album and 888 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: dealing with some things emotionally that I didn't necessarily focus 889 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: as much on certain things. And then my team picked 890 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: up slack and it became this thing where y'all were 891 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: seeing stuff go up. When I was seeing stuff going 892 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, it was inspired me. You know 893 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: what I'm an, So I gotta give a big shot 894 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: my team for that. They masterminded a lot of what 895 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: you see now, you know, and then they told me 896 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: they would. When I was like, bro, I don't know 897 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: if I can work on this album right now, I 898 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: was like, bro, just work, do what you do, take 899 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: your time, get it to us, and we're gonna And 900 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: then they say, one more time about this toy. You 901 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: said we're gonna get some of the classes. Yeah, I 902 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell you all of them. You already know 903 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: if you know, but you do, you do know, but 904 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: you can get here shoo. I'm ready, boy. Really, it's 905 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: gonna be so excited. And then you got bigger people excited. 906 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy crazy, and you missed making beats. Now I 907 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: feel like you played off with the beasts. We get 908 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: everybody else production. I mean, based on my productivity, I 909 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: guess I don't like. I kind of like, I guess 910 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: I like what you got right now, but don't get 911 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: your twisted man shout out. I gotta throw this out 912 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: of enjoy a RTIs you gotta single out right now 913 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: that I produced that was like the last record I 914 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: was able to produce, um, which is a single lot 915 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: right now learn you? Yeah, So I'm still I'm still there, 916 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: but I think I'm more like focused on the album, 917 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out the tour, I aspect and what 918 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna do, and then yeah, lord William getting back 919 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: into production because I ain't gonna front. I learned a 920 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: lot from working with the people. I learned from like 921 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: the way they produced the energy. It's like, man, I 922 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: know I got I got work to do, but going 923 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: this yere, So how do you measure success now? Because 924 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: you don't put these like heavy expectations on yourself now, 925 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 1: Like what what will satisfy you with this project? Man? 926 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: It's hard to say. So I had to say because me, 927 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: it's it's always been especially now man, it's it's almost 928 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: gone with it's it's already moving, I mean future. Yeah, 929 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: people are excited about it. Some of the venues are 930 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: already we got, We're done, you know what I'm saying. 931 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: So it's like, man, I guess it's excited to see 932 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: what happens, like how people respond to the album, how 933 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: the show's paying out, what the show looked like, and 934 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: the energy that comes with it, and um, yeah, man, 935 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a little ministerince I've been 936 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: on tour, So I feel different. I feel better. Do 937 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: you think it takes to survive and we've seen it go? 938 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean the key is like for somebody maybe like 939 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: I've already been in the game, but like, man, be 940 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: like the fourth or fifth year in the game, but man, 941 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: I see like the future that they can still contribute 942 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: to this culture and still have their place. I mean, 943 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: I think combining your hunger and your passion I always 944 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: will keep you afloat because you're gonna find a way too, 945 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: even when the game changes up to kind of morph 946 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: and and find your spot in it. I still have 947 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: the hunger that I had when I first came out. 948 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: My passion is just the same equally and making music 949 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: and seeing how it can affect um a room, how 950 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: can it affect the subject a topic. It's still something 951 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: that I'm very much interested in seeing always, and I 952 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: see what goes on in the world, I see what 953 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: happening in society. And if if you're creative, then it 954 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: don't matter how the game go, you're gonna figure out 955 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: a way to stay attached to your voice and how 956 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: to get your words words out there. Then they only 957 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: wanted people to hear what I had to say in 958 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: the first place, So everything else is kind of a bonus. 959 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, there was a I forget what song it was, 960 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: but you said something about a hit record. Don't ask 961 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: me about a hit record. I forget what your album was. 962 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: That was a freestyle twelve joints. Possibly, who knows, But 963 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: nonetheless the point the question I want to know is like, 964 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: does that still not affect you like I think as 965 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: as and this is maybe it's just the younger version 966 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: of myself and still always wants to hear a song 967 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: on the radio. There's nothing like it, I mean, because 968 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: you just come from that, um the idea of a 969 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: hit has changed now that you don't you don't actually 970 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: hear it on the radio to know it took off. 971 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: Because you have streaming, you have different ways of viral 972 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: e going up. You know what I'm saying. Your song 973 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: can be come and hit record and it's not even 974 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: your video. Somebody else elevated it, right, Yeah, you know. 975 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: So for me, it's just about finding that balance where 976 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm not just going for the gusto and losing who 977 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: I am creatively. But people still know that that champion 978 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: me anyway. They know that I'm gonna try to take 979 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: this move and as far as I possibly can, I'm 980 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna do my best to make sure they see me 981 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: and despot that they think I should being, and then 982 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: bring all my funk with me. Like that's that's the goal. Now, 983 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: it's like more times bigger than me, And so how 984 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: do I keep pushing that envelope so all the other 985 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: artis that signed a multie won't be put in a 986 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: situation that I might have been putting as an artist? 987 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 1: What's the what's the future of multi future? More times, 988 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: more time is bigger than just wrapped. I want to 989 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: say that too, Like I feel like it's all literally 990 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: about being multi talented, multi purpose. You do more than 991 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: one thing. So if you videographer, if you're a muralist, 992 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: any kind of creative, I think multi should be able 993 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: to to kind of find that way for you, find 994 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: that home for you to where you can match up 995 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: with a producer that needs a cover, You can match 996 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: up with an artist that needs you know, his march 997 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 1: done or design or jewelry or whatever we're talking about. Visuals. 998 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: I think that's what multi should end up being. But 999 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: the first step is the music from that's the vehicle, 1000 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: and the music is good man, positive, hard, let's go, 1001 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: no the negativity, Okay, let's embraces. Let's go ain't even 1002 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: in the old school. It's cool, man. What's your favorite 1003 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: record on the album? Boy, that's hard to say that. 1004 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: I like energy a lot. I like the no pun 1005 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: intended energy. Yeah, you know what I mean? Um, what 1006 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: do you mean he said the world is killing me? 1007 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: Was that a tough time? I mean yeah, I mean, 1008 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: but that's just in general, that's all of us. I mean, 1009 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: that could be the foods you eat, the what do 1010 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: you drink? That could be the police officer down the street. 1011 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: Don't mean to make all his rhyme. Yeah, but it 1012 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: could literally be visually what you're taking in the messages 1013 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: you receive, the comments that people give you. It could 1014 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: be anything, and they're just finding that positive energy through 1015 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: the mist of it and trying to share with people. Um. 1016 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Mississippi is one of my favorites. Um 1017 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: for the people that heard I freestyle the whole verse, 1018 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: which it's five minutes, man, I mean, and I freestyle 1019 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: the whole verse player where that Yeah, no, no, but 1020 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: see it was it was the fluidity of it because 1021 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: Daniel played the record and it didn't have like the 1022 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: horns and everything. Yeah, it was just really like baseline drums. 1023 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: And I was trying to write to it and I 1024 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: could not because it would have been too to the greed. 1025 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: So I was like trying to be more sporadic, more 1026 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: like an instrument of jazz is man. So I was like, man, 1027 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm a just freestyle and so um and then the 1028 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: acronym comes out of that. Right, is fun for me 1029 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 1: because I got to be the first person back academ 1030 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: out of Mississippi and so yeah, just to break it down, 1031 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: maybe I'm so southern, I sometimes skilled and ignorant people's 1032 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: perception of independence. Damn. Maybe I'm so sudden. I sometimes 1033 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: selled ignorant people's perception of independence. Damn I m I 1034 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: crooked letters yo. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, I got one. 1035 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: But I definitely love energy prove it because of the 1036 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: cold versus crazy that the whole album is really appreciate it, bro, 1037 00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: appreciate you brother, Yeah right here, wrap it up. Podcast