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Speaker 2: Scouting Combine, and welcome to all our listeners on Steeler

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Speaker 2: back with you again. Day two of our coverage. The

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Speaker 2: player interviews are in full speed right now and still

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Speaker 2: have some NFL people coming up, excuse me to the

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Speaker 2: combine to the interview area this afternoon. But things are

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Speaker 2: ramping up and they'll continue to ramp up right through

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Speaker 2: the weekend, especially when they put the guys on the field,

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Speaker 2: which is what everybody wants to see exactly right.

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Speaker 3: That finally gets going tomorrow. And an interesting group today,

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Speaker 3: and the linebackers and defensive line both I think deep positions.

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Speaker 3: The linebackers certainly with some real blue chip prospects there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not the case with the defensive line but definitely

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Speaker 3: a handful of guys with kind of late first round,

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Speaker 3: early second round potential. And yeah, Jerry, it's an interesting

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Speaker 3: kind of life form of its own in here. It's

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Speaker 3: I missed the old days. Remember when they used to

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Speaker 3: have the bench press yere right.

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Speaker 2: It would distract me enough that when I got bored,

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Speaker 2: I would watch it. It'd be awesome.

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Speaker 3: I mean we'd be in the middle of you know,

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Speaker 3: talking about Aaron Rodgers and you'd hear some strength and

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Speaker 3: conditioning coach, one more, give me one more, come on?

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Speaker 2: And I was there. I was there watching when the

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Speaker 2: was it. The high stake guy was at Bill Billy

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Speaker 2: Price was at his name the center blew out a peck? Yes,

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Speaker 2: and during year was that to you? No, I don't recall,

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Speaker 2: but I remember Max and I talking about it even

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Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, because the bench press was right there,

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Speaker 2: and it is. It's it's kind of it's kind of

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Speaker 2: like watching curling in the Olympics. It becomes addictive after

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Speaker 2: many reps they can do? And so it was, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're watching, thinking who wants to watch that? And you

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Speaker 2: end up like you can't take your eyes off. Curly

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Speaker 2: repends is a good one.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's got their favorite obscure Olympic sports right right that

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Speaker 3: they only watched like once every four years. Maybe they

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Speaker 3: have their obscure favorite combine drill too, if that, maybe it's.

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Speaker 2: The bench press. Yeah, yeah, so but they've reconfigured, they

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Speaker 2: and so long you've been here? It happens quick, huh.

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Speaker 3: So I think eighteen and nineteen the bench press was

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Speaker 3: still there and then I think after COVID was when they.

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Speaker 2: Could be because when they moved it, yeah, could be.

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Speaker 2: You know, speaking of linebackers, that's one thing, one area

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Speaker 2: where the Steelers have had success, not only with high

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Speaker 3: You know, Jerry that that's paramount. I mean, that's so

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Speaker 3: important we you know, we when we do these types

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Speaker 2: Can art now Washington too, right, Darnell Washington as well.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely most people can look at Fernando Mendoza and go,

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Speaker 2: You know, you can.

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Speaker 3: You can turn on Caleb Downs or RVL Reese's tape

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you look at their last two drafts and

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Speaker 2: One you could say, boy, those are good draft picks.

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Speaker 2: But they've done a good job of that. But where

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Speaker 2: they need to hit the home run? Though all drafts

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Speaker 2: they've missed on. They've missed on drafting a Pro Bowl player.

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Speaker 2: I understand where they're drafting. You know, typically they're drafting

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Speaker 3: Kevin Colbert's average draft position was twenty four.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. But you also look at some

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Speaker 2: I know they're twenty one, but that's what I don't

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Speaker 3: I agree, Jerry were I was laughing about this this

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Speaker 3: morning show. You know, we've had it feels like it's

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Speaker 3: quarterback because last year with Aaron Rodgers was a different story.

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Speaker 3: But we've had a lot of finding the future quarterback

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Speaker 2: And you know this cycle, yeah, you know, as part

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Speaker 2: there's no question that's where they're going to go. But

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Speaker 2: dk Metcalf. By that, I mean, you know they pay

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Speaker 2: But do you go out and sign Jalen Watt or

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Speaker 2: you sign Christian Kirk. Not that that's going to, like

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Speaker 2: get a guy who that Aaron Rodgers knows, and of

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Speaker 2: course you know, okay, this guy's quality as well.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that's the that's the gotta be the

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Speaker 3: blueprint right now. And you know this as well as

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Speaker 3: anyone Jerry. They in free agency, they want to make

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Speaker 3: take an offensive lineman. But man, if you are able

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Speaker 3: you could wait till the second round and use it there.

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Speaker 3: that's okay, we can wait till pick fifty three for

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Speaker 3: wide receiver because it's such.

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Speaker 2: A deep group.

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Speaker 3: We already signed someone in free agency. We've got DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 3: You maybe use a second round and a fourth round

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Speaker 3: pick on a wide receiver or something like that. But options, options, options,

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Speaker 3: I think it makes a ton of sense, Jerry, and

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Speaker 3: And I think that's normal for a new coaching staff, right.

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Speaker 3: I listen, Jerry. We have to be careful because I

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Speaker 3: I think the ideal scenario is, you know, Will Howard

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Speaker 2: more of our coverage from the NFL. Combine, Jerry, do

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Speaker 1: This is live coverle reach of that twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the NFL Combine, Jerry Duc, Wes Euler,

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Speaker 2: Rob King, he'll be back with us shortly, and wow,

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Speaker 4: Multi year agreement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yes, by decade. Yes. And as I told

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Speaker 4: How about the carbon dioxide alart?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So that's what you guys should sound.

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Speaker 4: You know, coaching searchers had become my least favorite part

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Speaker 4: He was a highly paid couple millions five million. How

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Speaker 4: much he's in the five million? Good for him so

433
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Speaker 4: in that they probably tried to would be willing to

434
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Speaker 4: give him a raise to stay, but he was just

435
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Speaker 4: really outraged and offended over yeah. Yeah, So anyway, they

436
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Speaker 4: replaced him with Mike Ruttenberg from Atlanta under Jeff Ulerich's staff.

437
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Speaker 4: He's a rob sala protege, and I think they'll be

438
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Speaker 4: okay defensively. So they chose Monk, and they wanted a

439
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Speaker 4: whole new offensive philosophy and vision, and that's what Monkin

440
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Speaker 4: gives them over Schwartz. I don't know what Schwartz's offensive

441
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Speaker 4: vision was. I'm sure it was part of the interview.

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Speaker 4: I would have been fascinated to hear. It wasn't good

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Speaker 4: enough to them obviously, right, right.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested with the offseason approach because, as you mentioned,

445
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Speaker 3: the defense has been one of the best in the

446
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Speaker 3: NFL now for a few straight years. The offense opposite

447
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Speaker 3: story and needs a ton of work, particularly on the

448
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Speaker 3: offensive line. So is it is it going all in

449
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Speaker 3: on this offense and trying to rebuild that quickly to

450
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Speaker 3: mesh with the defense? Is it to continue to reinforce

451
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Speaker 3: the defense because that's that's our bread and butter what

452
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Speaker 3: we do so well, what's kind of the is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it totally offense, you know, for the draft and

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Speaker 3: free agency, or do you think that they're going to

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Speaker 3: continue to try and have a a bully on the

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Speaker 3: defensive side.

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Speaker 4: Of the Well, no, I think GM andrew Berry has

458
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Speaker 4: not been shy and stating it's obvious we're going to

459
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Speaker 4: commit all, you know, the majority of our resources to

460
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Speaker 4: offense this year. You're right, offensive line, they may have

461
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Speaker 4: to replace five stuff. Joe Bltonio may return for thirteenth years.

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Speaker 4: They'll know thirteen. I would have guessed he's at sixteen

463
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Speaker 4: or seventeen. It seems like he's only thirty four. Williams

464
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Speaker 4: is talking about a new deal at thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: I know Kim Hayward might be talking about that too.

466
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Speaker 4: So offensive line receivers been one lacking. And then you

467
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Speaker 4: have the quarterback room, and you know there's a lot

468
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Speaker 4: of noise out there, but every every quarterback that's available,

469
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Speaker 4: people peg him to the Browns. I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 4: I think they're stay in pat with what they have,

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Speaker 4: at least for this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: If that Sean Watson comes back, Gabriel still in the plans. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: according to Berry, he thinks he has a fine, bright future.

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Speaker 4: But what's what's going to be incredible to watch if

476
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Speaker 4: they if they have a competition between Deshaun Watson, he's

477
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Speaker 4: finally healthy and who knows what game he has left.

478
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Speaker 4: They're paying him forty six million dollars.

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Speaker 2: In the last year of his contract, right, is that

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Speaker 2: what he's counting or that's or both. That's what he's

481
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Speaker 2: being paid.

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Speaker 4: That's what he's being paid. What's he count His cap

483
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Speaker 4: number right now is eighty That's what I thought. They're

484
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Speaker 4: going to have to redo that to get it down

485
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Speaker 4: to about forty three or something thirty five. But anyway,

486
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Speaker 4: Sadur sand Sanders is like a huge fan favorite.

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Speaker 2: His fan base is unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: And Deshaun's like the complete opposite. Right, He's played nineteen

489
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Speaker 4: games in four years, two hundred and thirty.

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Speaker 2: Million dollar contract.

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Speaker 4: So you're pitting these two guys against each other, and

492
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Speaker 4: most people I expect it's a fair competition. Watson will

493
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Speaker 4: blow them away because he's just got more ability. Right,

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Speaker 4: we'll see what kind of game he has. I don't

495
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Speaker 4: think he's going to be the twenty nineteen Deshaun Watson,

496
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Speaker 4: but it'll probably be better than Sture. So so that's

497
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Speaker 4: going to be a pr backlash if that happens.

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Speaker 2: But what else is new? And Cliff I was just

499
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Speaker 2: going to say, that's nothing new for Cleveland. Yeah, Deshaun Watson,

500
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Speaker 2: he's the lightning rod for what ails the Browns, when

501
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Speaker 2: in fact it goes higher than him.

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Speaker 4: As we all know, about a year ago the owners meeting,

503
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Speaker 4: the owner said, we took a big swing and a

504
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Speaker 4: miss with him, and we're trying to bail out of it.

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Speaker 2: And now you're going to count them.

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Speaker 4: Imagine admitting that, yeah, yeah, and still bringing them back.

507
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Speaker 4: But someone figured out, well, we're paying them anyway. If

508
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Speaker 4: he's healthy, why go out and get another veteran when

509
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Speaker 4: he's there? So that's what we're looking at. So I

510
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Speaker 4: don't think the Browns are going to do a lot

511
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Speaker 4: at quarterback. They may draft someone in the middle. They

512
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Speaker 4: need a fourth guy, but for camp. But you know,

513
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Speaker 4: you see all these things like willow Is, Kyler, Murray

514
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Speaker 4: forget it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see Malik Willis is like jumped to the

516
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Speaker 2: top of the free agent list. There are certain not

517
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Speaker 2: just quarterbacks, like available free agents, like who would teams

518
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Speaker 2: like to have the most? Of course you the rumors

519
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Speaker 2: now too. You think the Steelers would sign Malik Willis,

520
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Speaker 2: you know, but they should get Malik Willis, bring him in,

521
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Speaker 2: you know, ton I I was just saying earlier too.

522
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Speaker 2: The one thing the Steelers want to do is stop

523
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Speaker 2: the revolving door at quarterback. Same here, and they want

524
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Speaker 2: to find out more con said yesterday, they want to

525
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Speaker 2: find that ten to fifteen year guy. I know it's

526
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Speaker 2: not easy, but they you know, they just can't keep

527
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Speaker 2: you know, five different quarter starting quarterbacks in five years.

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Speaker 2: Can't keep going that way. Well, we're longer than that, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I know, y'are you survive on that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Everybody's now Okay, twenty twenty seven quarterback draft. It's

531
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Speaker 4: like free coffee tomorrow. Yeah, right tomorrow. Never bear tomorrow,

532
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Speaker 4: pre beard, ma bear tomorrow. But that's what the Browns

533
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Speaker 4: are probably banking on next year. You know, if Dante Moore,

534
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Speaker 4: Leonora Sellers and the course, arch Manning and others, they'll

535
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Speaker 4: be in position to Selack one.

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Speaker 2: What sense are you getting? I mean, I know the

537
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Speaker 2: overall feeling is a quarterback draft isn't what people thought

538
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Speaker 2: it would be this Yes, this year thought it would

539
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Speaker 2: be stronger. You're get in any sense that maybe it's

540
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Speaker 2: a little sneakier better than people think, or no, it's

541
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Speaker 2: it's not what people it's not what people expected.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's it. I mean, I mean a

543
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Speaker 4: year ago I was saying, wait to the twenty six.

544
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Speaker 2: Everybody was right.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully Yeah, there's a lot, a lot of a

546
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Speaker 4: lot of guys in the middle rounds to choose from it.

547
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Speaker 4: Maybe one of them turns out to be a bonafid starter,

548
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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe two.

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh, there'll be guys available. Just Drake may

550
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Speaker 2: wasn't at the top of the list. Yeah, first round pick? Yeah,

551
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Speaker 2: where did he go? He go in the first round? Third?

552
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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, that's right. Excuse me. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good one two three there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe next year's we'll resemble that. You know, Archpanning

557
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Speaker 4: Sellers and more or whatever. I'm a big sellers guy. Yeah,

558
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Speaker 4: had bad year, same here, So he made the right

559
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Speaker 4: choice in going back and more won't be better next year.

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Speaker 2: You just hope they're healthy. You know.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, you know, you mentioned kind

562
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Speaker 3: of the pulse of the fan base when talking about

563
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Speaker 3: Shador and Shaun Watson. You think the fan base, what's

564
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Speaker 3: the confidence level in Andrew Berry because I thought last

565
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Speaker 3: year's draft was pretty successful for Cleveland. I mean, Sweeshings,

566
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Speaker 3: your defensive rookie of the year, fann and had an

567
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Speaker 3: awesome year. Is there some belief that like, all right,

568
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Speaker 3: we could continue to hit on these draft picks. We're

569
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Speaker 3: moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the plan internally, and that's why he stayed

571
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Speaker 4: on when they fired Stefanski. It's the first time under

572
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Speaker 4: the Haslim ownership that he didn't fire both as head coach. Right,

573
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Speaker 4: and basically the twenty twenty five draft saved them the

574
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: tremendous draft. Finch on Jenkins, Yeah, I mean yeah, Bason Graham. Yeah,

575
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Speaker 4: the defensive back. And there's two quarterbacks. You know, those

576
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: would be bonuses if one of them turned out three starters.

577
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Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to happen. I think they

578
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: draft Dylan Gabriel is their future backup. Who drafts with

579
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Speaker 4: the future? Well the problems, right, but I mean he's pigeonholed.

580
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the future backup. But anyway, it

581
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: was a great draft. There's a far more confidence in

582
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Speaker 4: the building than outside the building, you know, Like I

583
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 4: feel he's one for six. Yeah, six drafts, sure, and

584
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Speaker 4: hit one of them. But their plan is they put

585
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Speaker 4: a new foundation layer of young talent last year, you

586
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: add another layer this year, and then if the opportunity

587
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Speaker 4: presents itself to get that quarterback next year, at least

588
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 4: these first and second year guys are now second and

589
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: third year guys, you know, and the whole roster is

590
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Speaker 4: being developed. The only problem is in the meantime defense,

591
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Speaker 4: which is ready to win now? Can it still be

592
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Speaker 4: ready to win in two years.

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Speaker 2: Without Jim Schwartz? Yeah? One question for I let you go,

594
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Speaker 2: and I know you got to run. I'll ask you

595
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Speaker 2: what you asked me yesterday. How do you see the

596
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: division shacking up.

597
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Speaker 4: Man, it's it's it's compressed. I think as a result

598
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Speaker 4: of those three head coaching changes, and you know that

599
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: draws the Browns back into it a little bit. But

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Speaker 4: I gotta believe I think Cincinnati feels we should take

601
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Speaker 4: this thing burrow and you know they're going to devote

602
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Speaker 4: their whole officers into defense.

603
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Speaker 2: Just average defense.

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Speaker 4: Just tell you what, if you combined the Browns and Bengals,

605
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Speaker 4: you'd have a helptty good team, that's right. But I

606
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Speaker 4: know Baltimore still got a lot of talent, Pittsburgh's got

607
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Speaker 4: a lot of talent.

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Speaker 2: But I think I think the Bengals offense is the

609
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Speaker 2: best unit in the elite in the division. Yeah, I

610
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: agree with that. You know, well, when you get two

611
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: receivers like that in a quarterback.

612
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Speaker 4: In their prime and the continuity there. So I'm going

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Speaker 4: to say the Bengals, but I don't think anybody runs

614
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Speaker 4: away with it, and I think Baltimore or Pittsburgh can

615
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Speaker 4: win it also, so I'd be surprised if only one

616
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Speaker 4: team wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who would have thought they'd have? The last coach

618
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Speaker 2: standing in the AFC North would be Zach Taylor. Since

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Speaker 2: he's like the third longest tenure in the NFL. I know,

620
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Speaker 2: I know so well. They went from Marvin Lewis, who

621
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Speaker 2: had great tenure to this guy now because of the

622
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Speaker 2: way the changeover it curse. Yeah. Yeah, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: who would have both Harbor and Tom had gone in

624
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Speaker 2: the same year? Wow? Who would have taken that bet

625
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Speaker 2: before last season?

626
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Speaker 4: No, but I'm sure you could find a betting app

627
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Speaker 4: that was someone else exactly right.

628
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Speaker 2: Have put the mods on your prediction market. You would

629
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Speaker 2: have gotten good return on that one. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: you got to go. Tony Grossie from ESPN Cleveland's been

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Speaker 2: our guest. Thanks Tone always, good chat with you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Good to be after you. You got it.

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Speaker 5: We will be back with more of our draft coverage

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Speaker 5: right here on Stealer Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: This is live of Cobbley Chub that twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine on Steeler's Nation Rate, a part of the

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Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's day two of our wall to wall coverage

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Speaker 2: from the NFL Combine. We will be with you all

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Speaker 2: the way up through Friday, not Saturday or through Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Friday through Friday, Yes, and today at two o'clock, and

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Speaker 2: I'm with you none to two every day, although I

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Speaker 2: might be cut short a little bit tomorrow because of

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Speaker 2: a other commitment, but always a treat to be here

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Speaker 2: west It's been I think I've been at the combine

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Speaker 2: every year since Mike Tomlin became the coach, so this

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00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: would be year number twenty. Yeah for me, And as

648
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: I said yesterday, I go back to when it was it.

649
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: I wasn't there when it was at what predated Lucas Oil.

650
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: What was it was at r c A, what was it? Yeah,

651
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't there for that. But the time I've been

652
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: here has just been over at Lucas Oil, and I've

653
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: seen it grow from a small media room to we

654
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: have now which is massive. And yeah, it's it's really something.

655
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: An NFL network just goes crazy over it, and you know,

656
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: it's our most watched program of the year. It's it is.

657
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: And where where was the RCA dome located? Basically the

658
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: same place, basically the same spot it was attached well,

659
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: it was attached to the convention center, but I'm not

660
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: exactly sure which because this convention center is massive. It

661
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: takes up a whole square block I'm not sure which

662
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: way it was angled, but it was basically the same deal.

663
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: In fact, whenever we entered, like for a game, you

664
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: entered the RCA Dome through the Convention Center, whereas Lucas

665
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: Oil is is. It's connected underground to the Convention Center,

666
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: but you still enter as a free standing building, right, yeah,

667
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: but it's a block not even a block away. Yes, yeah.

668
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: And if you walk in the same way as everybody else,

669
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: right down the hallway and you see down those stairs,

670
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: and that's where the team personnel go.

671
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right where the where the fancy credit engine.

672
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: That's actually right get to go. We walk up, they go, No,

673
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: you're right there. You co out that door, that's you

674
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: go this way, but that's where that's where you belong.

675
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: So obviously the buzz about the draft west. Everybody loves

676
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: the draft. I mean it's the you know, it's it's

677
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: arguably the biggest day of the year. It's crazy for

678
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: not a Steeler fans but probably most fans. And and

679
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: and that Thursday day one, you know, it's just the buzz, uh,

680
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: the anticipation who's going to go, who your team is

681
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: going to take? Man, it's just months you know, this

682
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: starts it. And so here we are in February, and

683
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: it's going to be you know, two more months basically

684
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: before that process happens. And so the build up for

685
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: those two months is unlike anything that exists in the league.

686
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: It is it is why the NFL has, I mean,

687
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: in the twenty first century just skyrocketed and surpassed every

688
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: other league in the world by far, obviously in this country,

689
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: but you can include you know, all the different top

690
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: soccer and Formula one cricket and all these other sports

691
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: right across the world. Look, the NFL pulls in the

692
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: most revenue comfortably, and a big part of that is

693
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: they have just all throughout the offseason found these benchmark

694
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 3: moments that keep everybody talking about football, watching football, interested

695
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: in football. As you told me yesterday, right, you could

696
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: turn on ESPN any day of the year and they're

697
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about football at fifteen minutes at least

698
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes of football every single day. And man, the

699
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, you get the Super Bowl into the combine,

700
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: into the draft, into OTA's and mini camp, free agency

701
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: in there as well too in March, by the way, uh,

702
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: and then you know, and then it's late July, training

703
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: camps are opening up and you're right back into another season.

704
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: It's it really is incredible how infrequently this league goes quiet.

705
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And it's just that period from the second

706
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: week at June till like the third it's five weeks

707
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: to five weeks third week at July when they go

708
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: to training camp.

709
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 3: And you know what too, during those five weeks, someone

710
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: always requests requests the trade, someone always gets in trouble

711
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: or gets arrested. You know, there's always there's always some

712
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: some type of news.

713
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: And you know what's funny too, West is the last

714
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: last two years, in particular, the Steelers are at the

715
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: top of the off season news. And I don't know

716
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: that that's going to be the case this year because

717
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers coming back will still be news obviously because

718
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: he's one of the one of the marquee players, one

719
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 2: of the icons of the league, and so that will

720
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: generate some news. But it won't It won't according to

721
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: the Steelers, and I don't believe it will either. According

722
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: no mark On, it's not going to drag into junior

723
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: four months last year, right, But nonetheless, with all the changes,

724
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: the turmoil, whatever, is going on. They've been at the

725
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: top of the off season news each of the last

726
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: two seasons, and so they probably hope they're not that's

727
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: not the case again this year. But it's also because

728
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: of the brand, because they're the Steelers, and that's why

729
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: they get five primetime games a year, because they move

730
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: the needle, and they're one of the most popular franchises,

731
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: certainly more hallowed franchises in the league. Oh.

732
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's I think the big three year Pittsburgh, Dallas

733
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: in Green Bay, Yeah, and then maybe slightly a notch

734
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: down San Francisco.

735
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: New England's gathered a lot because with what they've done

736
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: here Raiders historically, but they've fallen off in the twenty

737
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 2: first century. Who else is big? When I say that

738
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: in terms of I look at it by what I

739
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: see come into town, into Pittsburgh and the one other

740
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: than Green Bay this year with the Gopeck going the

741
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: whole bit. The Minnesota Vikings, their jersey count when they

742
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: came in a couple of years ago just staggered me.

743
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: How many Vikings fans there are, whether they like their

744
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: merchandise or their logo or whatever the case may be.

745
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Vikings fans out there. Yeah.

746
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, those those Bears too, like those Midwest teams.

747
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: They you know, Bears have history on their side.

748
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: They get snowed in and they drink beer and they

749
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: watch football, you know.

750
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Vikings that just that I've always remembered.

751
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 3: That well, how I mean San Francisco too, a couple

752
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: of years ago for that home opener. There was a

753
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: ton of red red jerseys on the north Shore that year.

754
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're ready get that.

755
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: Eddie de Bartolow influenced from from northeast Ohio to That's

756
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: exactly right. I have ever told you that story before.

757
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: So my first full time job out of college, I

758
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: worked for two years for the Youngstown Fantoms, the hockey team.

759
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I knew that.

760
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And my first week, our sales directors driving me

761
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: around and showing me and you know, taking me the

762
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: rank in all these different places. And I'm like all

763
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: these office buildings, I keep seeing the forty nine ers

764
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 3: logo on the side.

765
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah right.

766
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: And so his name in Youngstown and so his name

767
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: was Andrew, and he's like this and this and this

768
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: is where this school is and this is where da

769
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: uh and this is where Ted Ginn went to high school,

770
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: you know. And I'm like, what's with all the Niners

771
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: locos everywhere? And he's like, you know the name Eddie

772
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: de Bartolo And I was like, I think so, yeah,

773
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: like owned you know that was that.

774
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: Was for junior at that point. You didn't know the

775
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: old man, right correct? Right? Yes, And you're a young

776
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: he was like, he was like, you'd be shocked.

777
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: He's like the most popular sports team here is the

778
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers, followed by the Steelers, and then the Browns.

779
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: The Browns are the third, the third most popular team

780
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: in Youngstown.

781
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: So the first time I meet Eddie de bartelow, I

782
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: was introduced to him and I can't remember where it was,

783
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: but probably some league function or some form. So I'm

784
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: introduced to him and one thing he says, because, oh,

785
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: you're the guy who does the picks in the paper,

786
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: because you know, he was known to maybe like the

787
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: late lay a wager of course, And I thought, my god,

788
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: if he's paying attention to my picks, I don't know.

789
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: I hope he's not telling me here. Yeah, I don't

790
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: think it's his empire might crumble if he was doing it.

791
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: But that was the first thing he said, Oh yeah,

792
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: you're the guy who does the pics in the paper,

793
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: and he's not like he's from Pittsburgh either. You could

794
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: be known for worse too. That's exactly right. I'll tell

795
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: you that. You know, I was I was talking about

796
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: this earlier today about and I thought, I can't recall

797
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: I heard you guys talk mention this, but the defensive line.

798
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: And so you go back to last year at this time,

799
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, I'd been beating that trump for the year

800
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: prior to that. They need to restock that defensive line.

801
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: They need to get younger and better, not just younger better.

802
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: And so last year, of course they do that in

803
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: the draft, and so at the time, and it was

804
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: to they take Derek Harmon, but I had said, don't

805
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: stop this year. Do it again next year, meaning twenty six,

806
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: just like they did with Broderick Jones and Troy Fatano.

807
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: Don't just waste one year or spend one year on

808
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: the offensive line, spend two build up that line of

809
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: scrimmage and so well with the defensive line. Do the

810
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: same thing. That's what they need to do, especially because

811
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: if they're going to use that rotation system their rotation system,

812
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: there is a big drop off when they would put

813
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: those other guys in. So if you're going to play

814
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: that way and rotate your defensive lineman, you better have

815
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: a second wave that's pretty darn good. So you need more, bigger, better,

816
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: better bodies. And so again last year at this time,

817
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: to me, the twenty twenty six number one pick should

818
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: have been a defensive lineman. But I think why a

819
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: Black changed that? And I say that because I think

820
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: he has shown that he can be a I'm not

821
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: going to sit here and call him a pro bowler,

822
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: but I think they believe he can be a top

823
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: tier player and we saw that. From now the trick

824
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: is going to be what does he do in year two?

825
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: But what they saw from him as is what a

826
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: fifth round pick, right, Yes, so what they saw from

827
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: him convinces them that, Okay, now they have two young

828
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: guys and around Keanu Benton and Cam Heyward. You know

829
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: they believe he's going to play another year. But I

830
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: also believe he's gonna want another contract, and that's going

831
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: to create this during the offseason because I just can't

832
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: they didn't give it to him last year. Now they

833
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: didn't give it to him last year because they said, no,

834
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: he's two years out on his deal. Well, it was

835
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: only one year out. I can't see them doing that.

836
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: And it's and so they're gonna butt heads over that.

837
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out. All that being said,

838
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: I still believe they probably need another defensive lineman, but

839
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: I don't think and I don't. I don't think it

840
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: will be and I don't think it should be in

841
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: the first round. But by day two if they did it,

842
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: I'd sit there and say, Okay, I get it. I

843
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: get it because it's another young body that you have

844
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: in that defensive line.

845
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna have four picks on day two as well,

846
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: one of the second round, three in the third right, right,

847
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: So you have in total five picks in the top

848
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: one hundred. I would hope that one of those is

849
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: a defensive lineman certainly.

850
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think too, you know, I think Wes

851
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: that you know, there's probably a good chance that that

852
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: third round pick is going to be one of them

853
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 2: is going to be traded. We'll see how it plays out.

854
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's why they have all these picks.

855
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: You think they use it to trade up this year?

856
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: You think that to get more capital for next year.

857
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: We'll see, yeah, we'll see. It depends who's sitting there

858
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: that they like. That's what it comes down to. Okay,

859
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: does the guy that we really like or the guy

860
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Speaker 2: that we have our first round grade on that we

861
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: think is pretty darn good is there even though let's,

862
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: for example, the wide receiver class is strong, deep as

863
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: it always is so and you think, well, the thought

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Speaker 2: process is, well, at twenty one, we could get the

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Speaker 2: same quality guy at twenty four. Well, maybe they feel

866
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Speaker 2: there's a guy at sixteen who's still there or seventeen,

867
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Speaker 2: I think we really like him, and then you make

868
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: the move, just as they did with Broderick Jones. They

869
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: moved up two spots right and so, same type of deal.

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Speaker 2: I could see them doing that if there's a guy

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Speaker 2: they really like, even if it's a wide receiver in

872
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: a deep class of wide receivers. But I you know,

873
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: maybe they'll go for three number three third round picks.

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Speaker 2: I don't see them doing it. I don't I see

875
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Speaker 2: it being packaged somewhere in whatever it is they want

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Speaker 2: to do, because that's why they've been stockpiling that. I

877
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: don't want to say that's the exact reason why they're

878
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: doing it. But they are certainly well aware of the

879
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: stockpiling these picks, what we're going to do with them.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they were hoping that this was the loaded quarterback

881
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: clash year that everybody thought was going to be a

882
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: year ago, and then all of a sudden, your three

883
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: third round picks and you've got some real amo to

884
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: move up and potentially nab a quarterback. But it doesn't,

885
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: you know. I think like the Broger Jones example, they

886
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Speaker 3: moved from seventeen to fourteen that year.

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Speaker 2: The right that was it eighteen to sixteen? I can't

888
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Speaker 2: remember because there's only a couple of sports.

889
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Speaker 3: It was only a couple spots. That was where I

890
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 3: was going with that, And so maybe it's something similar

891
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 3: this year. The run on wide receiver starts a little

892
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: earlier than then you think, and you move from twenty

893
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Speaker 3: one to eighteen to go get your guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious to see how it's all going

895
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Speaker 2: to play Out's still too early. I mean, I Steelers

896
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: have an idea what they think they would like to do,

897
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Speaker 2: but they're just beginning this process, and again, free agency

898
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: is going to speak to it a little bit. But

899
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Speaker 2: I don't think if they sign a wide receiver in

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Speaker 2: a draft it's going to change what they want to

901
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: do in the draft. But I think, you know, I

902
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: was talking to Brian McFadden earlier, the former Steeler who's

903
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: with CBS CBS Sports. Yeah, and he, you know, he

904
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 2: was of the belief that, you know, no, go get

905
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Speaker 2: a ready made wide receiver to pair with DCAF and

906
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Speaker 2: steel draft the rookie instead of bringing in two rookies

907
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: who you know, maybe they need some time to adjust.

908
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like the top tier wide receivers need

909
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: a lot of time to adjust in the NFL anymore so.

910
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 2: But that that makes a lot of sense. But again,

911
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: and after giving DK that deal five years, one hundred

912
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: and fifty million, they're not going out and signing somebody

913
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Speaker 2: to some deal like that. They're not going on and

914
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Speaker 2: bringing in a number one receiver over him that they're

915
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: going to trade or sign their free agency. That ain't happening.

916
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean they won't go draft somebody high

917
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: who could eventually become.

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Speaker 3: The absolutely and in the meantime, right you have a

919
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Speaker 3: great one two tandem. What that means for your offense?

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Speaker 3: What that means for Aaron Rodgers in all likelihood, then

921
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Speaker 3: it starts to get exciting. And obviously the influence of

922
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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy and what and what he's going to do

923
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Speaker 3: as an offensive minded guy with great history in that regard.

924
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'd say it's a good year to need

925
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Speaker 3: wide receivers at this draft.

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Speaker 2: Jerry, Yeah, that right.

927
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Speaker 3: First, first round, second round, third round. There's going to

928
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Speaker 3: be good options.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be curious to see what happens with

930
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: Kenny Gainwell too, just what they're going to do in

931
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Speaker 2: terms of whether chasing him, signing him, letting him chess

932
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Speaker 2: the market or what. You know, it's your team, MVP.

933
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Speaker 2: That's right, Just be somebody curious.

934
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Speaker 3: What if someone makes him a godfather offense?

935
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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, that's going to do it. For my first hour.

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Speaker 2: I will be back in hour two along with west

937
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Speaker 2: and and Rob Kin. We hope whenever he returned Rob

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Speaker 2: Kints exactly. But it's day two of our draft coverage

939
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Speaker 2: from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, where at the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Convention Center right next door to Lucas Oil Stadium. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back with more talk from the NFL Combine right

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Speaker 2: After this, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio and Stealer

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio.