WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: OBJ Still Happening? 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.240 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:15.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Boys. Are you ready 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.799 for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:24.119 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:29.480 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:34.600 with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia and 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:40.800 Derek Eagleton. Hey m, I was about to say my name. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.559 Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of The Break. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.760 I am not Derek Eagleton, but he just walked into 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.360 right on time. About time. We are ready to go. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.760 We got lots to talk about Jerry Jones. I'll keep 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.400 spanning until Derek decides to take over. All right, let's 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.880 just get in to it. Jerry Jones, he talked on 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:06.400 the fan today. Very interesting, very interesting because we I 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.959 felt from what I heard myself that it wasn't the 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:19.080 usual you know, dream seller, optimistic, hyped up Jerry Jones 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.399 that we are used to hearing and seeing for the 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:26.600 most part. But I just wanted to get y'all's opinion 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.200 on some of the things that he did say in 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.520 regards to Odell and where they're at currently. This is 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.880 the second day of their visit, so there's still like 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.080 a second part of it, and we still haven't necessarily 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.720 heard what the status is as far as is physical 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:46.039 and how that went specifically. So just overall thoughts on 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.360 what you guys heard from Jerry. I think it's like 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.120 you said, it's got to work out for both sides, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.240 and he was adamant about that it's got to work 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.440 for this year. And you know, if you just if 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.680 you listen to Jerry enough, you know that this is 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.800 he probably you know, it wasn't that optimistic about it. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.480 It didn't sound as optimistic, but he also got to 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.080 remember that there's negotiations going on here and in the 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.400 middle of it, and not just it's not other teams 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.840 that are listening, it's his agent listening maybe Odell himself. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.240 So there's a lot of cat and mouse to this situation. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.600 It didn't sound like it was like he has a 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.359 pen in hand ready to do this. But then again, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.720 you know, we've we've been duped before about what things 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.119 look like on the surface. Kind of feel like there's 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.400 a couple of things going on here. One of them. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.519 I think you're absolutely right, Nick about the negotiation aspect 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.680 of it. I think another thing is the realization. And 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.320 I've always felt this about Jerry Jones. You asked him 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.000 a question, He's going to try and give you the 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.359 best answer he can give. I don't think Jerry's in 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.800 the business of lying to you. I don't think, you know, 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.520 I mean he's I think he's very honest about the 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.359 assessment of his team. You know. I think he's just, 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.440 you know, honest about you know, he was trying to 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.080 tell you why ask Eliott didn't start. You know, that 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.440 was one of the things. It was like, listen, I'm 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.280 not trying to tell you it was nothing he did 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.200 wrong or bad or anything like that. You know, he's 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.280 he's a leader on this team, and he went to 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.880 his defense to be honest. And you know, I think, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.320 you know, that's something that he's trying to get that 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.120 out there, and that's that's great. I appreciate about him. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.880 I think there are some concerns about the knee. I 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.160 think there's some concerns about it long term. I think 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.360 there's some concerns about it. How fast can you get 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.560 ready to play right now? You know, and Jerry and 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.639 his crew they want him to play as quickly as possible. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.160 I don't see this as being like, Okay, we're gonna 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.760 get two games out of you potentially, and then it's 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.560 you know, going to be all over with I think 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.640 there's some honest concerns about it, and you know, we'll see, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.840 you know, they still might get the deal done. This 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.160 might be a place where Odell Beckham says, listen, I 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.520 understand the knee's not perfect. I'm gonna take some time here. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.520 I'll give you a break on this, you know, and 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.600 if and if you get enough of a break on 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.920 you know, on you know, him being available, then maybe 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.640 you can make this thing work and the way you 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.520 need it to work. So I kind of feel like 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.240 that's where where they're at right now. They're they're trying 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.600 to figure out like, Okay, we understand where your knee is, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.840 and we understand your availability, and this is what we're 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.560 willing to do to make that work. And if that's 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.440 okay with you, then we could get a deal done. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.800 If it doesn't appear that way, then either you know, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.160 he could go somewhere else or he could completely sit 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.920 out the season and try and do this all over 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.840 in the springtime again. Yeah. You know what's actually interesting 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.320 to me I heard on one or five dot three 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.360 the Fan last week they interviewed m Josina Anderson, who 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.840 is bought us close to ODE's friend on covering this 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.240 thing as anybody you'll find in the media, and there 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.080 was something she said, and Bobby Belt actually called it out. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.280 And I don't know if I paid as much attention 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.960 to it as I should, but her her she said, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.680 and she's kind of kind of glossed over it, but 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.720 she said, if Odell decides to play this right right 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.520 And I think and Bobby brought it back up this morning. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.640 I heard him talking about it, and I think that's 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.400 kind of the crux of this issue. You have on 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.320 one side, it doesn't seem like it's even been decided 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.240 on Odell's side, that he's actually thinks he's gonna be 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.520 ready to be able to play this year. You got 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.520 Jerry on the opposite side, and here was his quote 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.040 this morning. We want to certainly see something that gives 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.719 us every opportunity to have a big year with a 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.719 big year this year with him. So you got the 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.400 Cowboys saying we really need to help this year. You 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.920 got Odell, or at least his camp or people that 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.240 are close to him saying, you know, I don't even 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:31.839 know if he's going to be ready to play this year. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.880 And I think that is in my opinion. I think 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.719 that's what we're starting to hear a little bit of now, 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.720 is there's a little bit of that's the riff, you know. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.000 And I actually had the question for you guys. I'd 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.000 love to hear your opinions on this. If you were 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.080 sitting in Jerry's chair and you were having to make 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.159 a decision about him, would you be willing to sign 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:55.160 Odell Beckham Junior for a deal that if you knew 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.000 he wasn't going to play this year? Do you think 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.520 it's worth it for next year or maybe even the 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.520 year after? Did that to go ahead and do the deal? 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.400 And by the way, here's the part you gotta think about. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.440 Even if you don't think he's necessarily going to play 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.880 this regular seasons, he may be available to you in 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.440 the postseason. Does he provide insurance for you if one 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.240 of your guys gets hurt in the postseason? All that 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.320 being considered, what would you do if you were Jerry? 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.400 I wouldn't sign him. I don't think so. I mean, 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.440 and again, I don't know I've looked at a knee, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.640 and if I did, I would know how to evaluate it, probably, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.599 But I mean, I just I just his knee, Okay, 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:31.159 not yours. Just need a knee now, okay, um, now calfs. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.400 I can probably be a specialist on that. Now, I 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.919 just I don't. I don't think I would. And the 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.120 reason why is And I don't mean to be like 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.760 the wet blanket on this because everyone's excited about it. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.800 But I fast forward to the spring of next year 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.080 in free agency. Okay, Cowboys need this this They don't 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:49.880 have any money. We all know that. Are they gonna 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.240 go get a thirty year old receiver that doesn't play 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.440 special teams? That could be here? Number two and three? 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.680 When you know CD's gonna need a deal and you 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.400 already signed Gallup and you probably drafted someone because you 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.760 don't really like what Tolbert did all that stuff. I 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.839 don't think you're gonna sign a guy like that anyways. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.400 So if it doesn't help you right now, I just 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.120 think their needs are different because he wants the latch on. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.440 Odell wants the latch onto a team right now, preferably 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.240 a team that has a chance to win, and then 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.640 get himself ready rehabbing and for free and all that 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.600 stuff and gettingself ready for the next year. And the 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.440 Cowboys want a guy ready to play this year. I 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.640 just think that their needs are different. I could be 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.120 a little bit of a smart ass here. How old 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.280 was James Washington? How old? Yeah, they signed James Washington. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.680 They went and got a veteran receiver. It was a 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.960 million dollars. See, that's what I'm saying, though, I mean 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.360 they they went and got one. I mean, that's that's right. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.480 But but I mean they to me, that's what I'm saying. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.200 If yeah, you wouldn't yeah you I was understanding what 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.440 you're saying. Would they sign on an Odell next year? Like, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.560 I think that's the thing. Yeah, I think that's the thing. 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.280 I think that's the thing. And and to your point, it's, yeah, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.640 it have to be for a lot less money, you know. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.640 I they they did. They got rid of Cooper and 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.280 they brought a veteran guy in, but it was for cheat. Yeah, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.080 so you know that's kind of where you're like going, Well, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:06.040 they've brought receivers in before, right, But but yeah, but 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.040 it's gonna have to be for the money. This if 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.080 this guy, you know, to be honest with you, if 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.640 he doesn't get the deal that he wants, I wouldn't play. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.760 I don't care. You know, it's not you know, rally 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.440 back next year and see if you can drum up 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.880 a market like you know, try and convince Nick that, 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.520 you know, hey, I'm worth more than a million dollars. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.440 You know, I'm worth five million dollars. You know, try 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.199 and convince people that that's actually the case here. But 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:40.600 me personally, I'm troubled on this one because I feel 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.640 like having him, even if it was for two or 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.640 three games, I kind of feel like that he would 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.320 help you. But long term, I mean Nick said something 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.319 the other day. They kind of got my attention. I've 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.640 used it on the radio. When you start to think 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.680 about his contract, if it's long term, what does that 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.160 do to CD's contract, you know, I mean Nick brought 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.800 it up. I think it's an excellent point. If you're 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:07.320 negotiating right now with Odell Beckham and your CD Lamb's camp, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:08.920 you're going, well, what are you talking to him for? 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.000 My guys doing? You know, why would you and all? 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.080 You know? And then you can also the guy can 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.800 said well, Jesus got rid of Amari Cooper. They just 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.280 moved on from him like nothing. So I mean maybe 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.560 that gives you scares you a little bit. But I 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.880 kind of feel like though that that if if I 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.880 can't get him, like I need him for this year, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.160 and it's it is only just two three games, I 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.320 don't think I would do this. I just don't. I don't. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.680 I mean, they've got receivers that are coming along, and 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.079 and like we just said, or I just said, you 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.199 got James Washington in the hole in case if something 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.480 happens to one of these receivers, you know you would 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.439 probably this time of year, what would you do? You 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.720 would go get James Washington if he was available. That's 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.160 what he's already, You've already got him. Yeah. Yeah, I'm 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.240 actually pretty annoyed if by the whole situation, Like there's 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.000 been so much hype, right and yesterday you see him 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.280 at the MAVs and you see him with Mica and 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.880 Trevon and everything. You see them all smiling and oh, 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.360 this is great, great chemistry and everything, and then you 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.640 listen to Jerry Jones this morning and then to me personally, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.559 everything kind of took a turn and it's like, Okay, 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.120 this doesn't really sound great. Specifically, when they asked him 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:22.600 about his availability and when he would be playing, Jerry 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.920 kind of took a pause there and thought about it, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.760 and he's like, well, that's relative depending how you look 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.640 at it. And he could play one snap or you know, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.800 be in the playoffs or help you in the super Bowl. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:39.000 Who knows. But the fact that from my understanding that 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.360 he's not and again we don't really know where he's 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.440 at with the injury, but not willing to and correct 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.280 me if I'm wrong to do like a workout and 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.840 allowed teams to actually see you, allowed the Cowboys to 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.840 see you run around do something. That's a problem. That's 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:03.400 a huge gamble that and I understand like the Cowboys position, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.520 and Jerry even admitted it that it doesn't make him 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.800 confident or comfortable to do this kind of signing without 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:15.000 being able to see and analyze him on the field 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:20.520 doing things physically. So it's just it's it's a very 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:25.240 tricky situation. But as of right now, based on today's 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.240 mood and what I heard, I don't think this has 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.440 headed the right direction, and looking into next year, I 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.960 wouldn't sign him as of right now for that. So 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.040 I'm gonna agree with you guys in that ass. You know, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.600 it's it's it's funny. I think they have a better 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.480 idea of the knee. At least they've got to see 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.160 the player physically, they've got to move the leg and 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.400 all that. I'm gonna say this, and I have no 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.800 insight on this, I really don't. I mean, nobody is 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.880 saying a damn word about this. But I know working 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.719 with Britt Brown and Jim Mauer, I know, working with 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:03.800 doctor Cooper, the front office trust those guys more than anything. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.280 I mean, they they drafted Jalen Smith, you know why, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.840 because Dan Cooper did that surgery that you know, everybody's like, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.200 take him off the board, man, this guy ever gonna 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.920 play again? This guy's does that and the other the 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.760 Cowboys said, Noah, that's our second round pick right there. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.320 Dan Cooper did, the doctor did the surgery. They know, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.320 they they trust their medical staff more than anybody I 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.319 think in the league. I think there's some teams that 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.959 would say, yeah, fine, medical staff, thank you very much, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.120 We're just gonna take this player anyway. These guys here, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.480 they they carry a big stick in that room. And 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.560 if Brent Brown and Jim Mauer and doctor Dan Cooper 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.760 and doctor Fowl and everybody else says the sneeze is 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.200 just not right, it's just not ready yet, you know 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.280 he needs time. And I guarantee you Mike McCarthy said 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.200 it before. He trusts this medical staff. He said it before. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.840 Then Jerry and Steven have kept this medical staff here 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.600 as coaches have been let go, they've kept the same 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.880 medical staff. You know why they trust him. So if 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.400 this medical staff is saying that he's not ready, the 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.320 knee is just not right, he needs more time. You know, 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.200 if you want to sign him, will work with him. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.280 But let me just tell you why I wouldn't do it. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.840 I think that carries a big stick in that. The 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.920 timing of it I think is just off. Like like 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.760 Amber just said, you don't go buy a car and 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.880 then the owners tell you you can't drive it right now. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.679 You can't test drive it, because that's all you're trying 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.120 to do. Because if you can't test drive it, can't 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.559 try it. Yeah, And because he that's why I say 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.360 the timing is off. He's not ready to go run 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.480 routes and make cuts and all that because you're gonna 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.959 make decisions based off the way I look. That's why 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.000 players don't want to put bad tape out there if 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.839 they're not ready, because you're gonna judge me on how 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.320 I look, and I'm not ready to be judged just yet. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.760 So you know that's that's that's the way it is. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.959 Nobody wants to take pictures eight o'clock in the morning. Yeah, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.400 I mean, like, let me get ready before I'm ready 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.840 to go do this. But here's another part of that too, 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.360 Like you said, if you want us to work with them, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.520 they trust the training staff, you know, like the it's 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.840 a gamble too, because maybe Jerry and them do want 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.000 to sign him next seat. Yeah, now you can be 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.040 the first to the party and say I got my 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.000 great rehab crew that work with him on the cords 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.080 until then, until he's ready to go, and I don't 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.120 have to fight everyone else that wants to jump back 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.480 in in March when he's a free agent. I already 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.480 did it. I did the work, I bet, I bet 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.960 the bullet, and now I got him for next year. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.280 If they want to go that route, that's a route too. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.040 That's that's a that's a great point. And you know 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.320 you're also looking at a situation that that that Jerry 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.160 and Steven might say, we appreciate everything you guys just 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.840 said about this player. We're going to sign him. He'll 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.560 be We're just going to sign him. You know that. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.080 We don't care. We were you know, thanks we yet. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.880 But Nick's right, you know, if you want to, if 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.680 you just want to knock it out for next year, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.560 and it's not going to kill you. I mean, I 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.080 think they've got a lot of guys they got to 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.040 sign next year though, right They've got a pretty significant 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.320 and I think they've got zero cap money. That's also 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.880 why to me, unless you're getting help out of him 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.960 this year. Yeah, I don't know if it makes sense. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.600 Because what you need more than anything else right now, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.560 that too, what you need right now is you need cheap, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.960 good players, and you can do that in the draft. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.360 There are always good receivers you can find in the 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.520 draft on the second round, third round. Now, see this 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.600 is what happens with Jalen to That's that's yeah. But 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.200 the thing about it is like I would look at 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.160 it if I'm the Cowboys, if I'm looking at a 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.520 long term solution, it's probably not O'Dell just because it's 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.600 gonna cost me so much money. I got all these 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.840 other guys coming after him who are young, by the way, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.760 that I gotta take care of, and I gotta pay 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.240 if unless Odell's willing to give me a price that 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:38.400 actually makes sense and fits. Yeah, several years we've seen this, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.080 We've seen this playout right, We've seen the same. Ironic 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.200 part of it all is that the reason why you 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.480 don't want to go do all that. Let's not forget 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.040 the Mavericks game last night. Those are Jerry's seats. Yeah, 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.040 that's the Cowboys seats that he said he didn't just 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.640 not that those guys and that crew that he was 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.000 with it and have the money to buy any seats. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.600 That's where they find it interesting. It was all defensive players. Well, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.000 it was The interesting part is the really in a 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.400 music mogul. Yeah, the reason why you can't, you know, 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.240 why you don't really want to go too far down 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.880 the road with him and pay him all this money 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.680 is because you got to sign. Ironically, those two guys 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.280 that were sitting next to him, those two contracts would 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.800 keep me up at night if I was Stephen and 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.760 his crew that does that especially well, it's you can 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.600 start with you can start next year with Diggs, and 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.800 I just I just have this feeling with Diggs. Next 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.640 year he doesn't have that fifth year option. It's gonna be. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.160 It's gonna be he's going into his last year, and 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.920 I think they're gonna try to get it done and 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:39.800 I don't need to. Yeah, And I don't think you'll 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.520 see him. I don't. I don't know this. I just 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.200 wouldn't expect him to be at like the training camp 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.120 and then he got a right tackle that's up too. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.200 Terren Steele. Yeah, way, negotiation though, right, Terren Steele, Right, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.240 they're trying to get Terrence Steel done right now? Is 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.080 that an easy negotiation? I think it's an easier negotiation 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.080 because or at least the way I approach the negotiation. Now, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:02.920 that doesn't mean you're gonna give him a hometown discount, 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.720 but I think for a guy like him that came 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.040 from where he came from, it as much as the 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.000 Cowboys have invested in him, I think you can get 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.280 that deal done for him price that makes sense. I 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.680 don't top ten right tackle in the league. Yeah, that's 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.639 what he's want. Yeah, Daves is gonna want to be 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.040 the highest paid cornerback in the history of cornerbacks, which 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.320 is every time a new guy gets a deal, that's 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.800 what it is. And then that's it's easier. Got Mica. Yeah, 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.680 he's about to be like highest paid defensive player in 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.679 the history league. That's gonna be a that's gonna be 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.360 a really, really tough one because I guarantee you they're 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.600 gonna say, stop calling him a linebacker because if they 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.360 try to franchise them, you franchise him as a defensive 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.560 end and a linebacker. Yeah, you go different at differ. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.359 You got a fifth year option on him, Yeah, Mica. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.280 Plus you got franchise tags that you could go try 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.440 and go multiple years there on that, so you could 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.159 you could run this thing, what seven years? Yeah, but 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.320 I kind of you want to though. No, I'm just 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.359 saying though that you got a quarterback, you got it, 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.600 and the quarterbacks up in what three years too? That's 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.120 the trie That was a short deal. Yeah, but here's 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:03.720 the deal. And and I don't want to get too 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.479 far into the cap conversation, but it's like seasons. This 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:13.040 is like if you're the talk when I'm significantly I 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.480 think next year, like suppose you really big jump. So 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.080 that's also part of this too, is how much of 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.800 a cap will you have either have O'Dell or Pollard 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.760 next year? Pollard for sure. I don't even think it's 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.200 a question for me. I don't either, but I think 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.399 that's a That's that's what we're talking about here, that 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.760 type of player. It is thought. Let me ask you this. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.159 I'll make it. I'll make it even tougher as I 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.040 have my game to down. I'll give you game. 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