1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck starts 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: right now. I'm going to talk to you about the 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: latest in Israel's war against the terrorist group Hamas. Now 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: there's reporting from over the weekend that the leader of 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: or a leader of Hamas, Osama Hamda, is on video 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: promising a war of liberation is coming, not just another 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: October seventh. So this is showing you, I think what 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: people have been at least we've been discussing on this 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: show all along that as long as Hamas continues to exist, 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 2: there is an unacceptable threat against the Israeli people and 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: the Israeli states. The only way this conflict comes to 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: an end, that is that is should be acceptable to 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: the Israeli State and to Israel's allies is the effective 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: destruction of Hamas as an entity. And people who say, well, 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: what does that mean. It means all active Hamas fighters 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: and Hamas leadership either incarcerated or dead. That's what it means. 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: There are war aims here that can be expressed in 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: definitive terms, and that will obviously take time. There will 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: be Israeli soldiers and personnel who are lost in this process. 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: There will be civilians who are killed accidentally, but who 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: are killed as the Israeli military tries to get and 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: take out these Hamas members. But we should have no illusion, 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: There should be no no mistake about this. The Israelis 26 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: are fighting a war that is just and one that 27 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: they have to see through to its completion, or else 28 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: there will be another attack like what we have seen now. Now, 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: something that has been getting more attention play in recent 30 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: recent days is the intentional and wide spread sexual violence 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: that Hamas engaged in against Israeli civilians, and initially of 32 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: brutality and the viciousness, the sadism of the Hamas attack 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: on October seventh was so overwhelming. Honestly, reading the details 34 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: does make you want to vomit. It's that level of 35 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: depravity that I think it was almost hard for people 36 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: to process, to fully process everything that went on, and 37 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: people have been traumatized just by the amount of trauma 38 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: that has been inflicted on the Israeli people. I know 39 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: people in this country who who have cried and who 40 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: have had trouble sleeping because of what they've learned about 41 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: what happened, particularly Jewish friends of mine, what they've learned 42 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: about what happened to fellow Jews and Israelis overseas. So 43 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: when you have a member of Congress who was asked 44 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: about the intentional and systemic rape of women and of 45 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: men and of children by Hamas terrorists as part of 46 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: this attack, it was clearly decided that this was going 47 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: to be part of the psychological warfare right, a systematic 48 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: campaign of rape against the Jewish people in this attack 49 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: on October seventh. When you have a member of Congress 50 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: who's asked about this, I don't think people would generally 51 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: expect that this is the response. This is representative Giapol 52 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: over the weekend. She was asked about this by CNN, 53 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: and this is she's a Democrat from Washington. This is 54 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: cut sixteen play it. 55 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: I've condemned what Hamas has done. I've condemned typically all 56 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: of the actions. 57 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 58 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: I think we cannot say that one war crime does 59 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: there's another in respect. I was just asking about the women, 60 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: and you turned it back to Israel. 61 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: I'm asking you about Hamas. In fact, I. 62 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: Already answered your question, Dana. I said it's horrific, and 63 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: I think that rape is horrific. Sexual assault is horrific. 64 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: I think that it happens in war situations. However, I 65 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: think we have to be balanced about bringing in the 66 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: outrages against Palestinians. It's horrible, but you don't see Israeli 67 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: soldiers raping well, Dana, I say, we're not. I don't 68 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: want this to be the hierarchy of oppressions. 69 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: I mean credit to CNN's Donna Bash there for saying, 70 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: Dana bash whatever, for saying the obvious, which is no, no, no, 71 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: this isn't one war crime deserves another. Hold on a second, 72 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: the Israelis do not rape Palestinian men, women or children 73 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 2: as part of their military policy. Hamas does Palestinians here did. 74 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: They're fighters, they're martyrs. They did do this, and the 75 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: international community has to contend with this and has to 76 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: understand that the monsters who did this, they must there 77 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: must be justice, and that means, you know, you can 78 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: convince me they can be incarcerated for life. But I 79 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: honestly think that they should be killed. 80 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: I agree that they should be killed. And this is 81 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: what she said. She doesn't want to get involved in 82 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: oppression analysis, but this is why she doesn't want to 83 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 1: get involved in oppression analysis because Hamas is the terror 84 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: organization that specifically targeted women and children to murder and 85 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: rape and kidnap, and that has not occurred at all 86 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: from Israel, because Israel's response is about defending its own 87 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: people from ever having this occur again. And there was 88 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: a front page article in the New York Times on 89 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Friday buck saying that remember right afterwards, right after October seventh, 90 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: we came on and we said, how is this possible? 91 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: How is it possible that this attack happened? Front page 92 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: article in the Friday New York Times said Israel had 93 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: the entire game plan of Hamas, their battle plan, their 94 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: intended details of the attack. Literally had the entire battle plan, 95 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: and said there's no way that they could actually implement this, 96 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: and so they didn't put in place safeguards. And so 97 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: I do believe, while they are responding right now, our 98 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: analogy of this is basically Israel's nine to eleven, where 99 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: when you go back and you look at all of 100 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: the evidence, it wasn't that this suddenly occurred and there 101 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: was no idea it might. It was that we missed 102 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: all of the evidence on nine to eleven and now 103 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Israel had all the evidence that it needed and it 104 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: missed what they were going to do. So I actually 105 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: think that is an important aspect associated with how this 106 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: response is now playing out. But the refusal to condemn 107 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: is central to this because that also credit to Dana 108 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: Bash on CNN, creates what is clear, this is not 109 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: an even playing field where both sides are committing atrocities. 110 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: The other thing I would say about this is increasingly 111 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: in the United States, the politics of this is becoming 112 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: more and more of a crisis for Joe Biden. Over 113 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: the weekend, there was a huge uprising of Arab Americans 114 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: saying we will not support Joe Biden. I don't know 115 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: how much attention you pay to this, buck, but when 116 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: they were pressed on you understand that not supporting Joe 117 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Biden could mean Donald Trump is in office, they basically said, 118 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: we don't care. We are opposed to Biden. We're in 119 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: a situation now where the longer this goes on, Joe 120 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Biden is losing support from Arab Americans, which was about 121 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: a sixty five percent pro Biden vote, and he's losing 122 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: support of Jewish voters, which was about a sixty five 123 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: percent pro Biden supporter. It's not just that he's losing 124 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: one side buckets that the conflict between these two sides 125 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: is costing Joe Biden immensely in both directions. And if 126 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: this kind of tension continues, and I'm not sure it 127 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: will eleven months from now, we'll see, but if it 128 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: did Joe Biden, I don't think the math adds up 129 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden to be able to win because when 130 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: these identity politics coalitions collide, you have to pick a 131 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: side and decide that anyone with a functional brain should pick. 132 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Here is Israel. 133 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: But the Democrats are in a tough spot because this 134 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: is both of their coalitions fighting. 135 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: You know, there's, as we've discussed, a lot of the 136 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the protests on campus or the riots 137 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: or whatever's going on is about sure, anti anti Semitism. 138 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: That's a big part of it, but there's also this 139 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: sense of a need for people who are left wing 140 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: in their politics and non white so and you know, 141 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: just meaning non white, to have a solidarity with the Palestinians. 142 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: Because it's interesting. Representative Jayapaul says, you know, I don't 143 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: want to get into you know, like intersectionality and oppression. Well, 144 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: that's exactly what's going on though in this country. I mean, 145 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: you have all these members of Congress, for example, who 146 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: are the ones who are the most outspoken in favor 147 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: of the Palestinians and Hamas are not are not white, 148 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: they're non white, they're different ethnicities, and there's this sense 149 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: of there must be a solidarity. We've talked about this, right, 150 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: what BLM groups have all this solidarity with the Palestinians 151 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: And you say, well, what is what is that all 152 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: about it? And it's because this is viewed through, This 153 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: conflict is viewed in this country, largely through because this country, unfortunately, 154 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: the left is obsessed with race and of obsessed with 155 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: racial conflict in America, and so the solidarity they have 156 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: with the Palestinians is overwhelmingly driven by a racial sense 157 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: of solidarity, as in just non white. They are non white, 158 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: therefore they are oppressed. They're actually Palestinians who are very 159 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: light skinned, who are as light skin as me. But 160 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: put that aside. They don't get you know, they're red haired, 161 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: blue eyed Palestinians. They don't care. And there are Israelis 162 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: who are Ethiopian and you know, we've talked about how 163 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: there's much greater complexity than what the actual debate reflects 164 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: in this country, and how and how the left treats 165 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: this issue and deals with this issue. But you know, 166 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: there's something there's something very there's something very different about 167 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: even Look, Hamas has engaged in suicide bombings at at 168 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: little girl's birthday parties. Hamas has engaged in suicide bombings 169 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: at pizzeria, just killing everybody that's there and views intentionally 170 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: doing so. This is not collateral damage, just as kill 171 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: as many people who are celebrating a birthday or trying 172 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: to be out at a disco and have a night 173 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: out as they possibly can. But the system rape campaign, 174 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: this is something that you know, this is a level 175 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: of evil beyond even what we had seen from Hamas 176 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: in the past. And I think there's a bit of 177 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: panic on the left because they like to think of 178 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: Hamas and the you know and the Palestinian people they 179 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 2: represent as oh, they're they're so oppressed, you know, they're 180 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: just fighting back with what they have. No No, the 181 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: decision to engage in a systematic rape campaign against people 182 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: during a terror attack against civilians is a decision of 183 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: barbarism and evil and sadism. And you know, the the 184 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: head of the Israeli intelligence services is saying, basically, we're 185 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: gonna hunt every single one of them down. And this 186 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: is an argument that I would have with absolutely anybody 187 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: in this country. The Israelis are absolutely right to do so. 188 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: They actually have a moral and ethical obligation in my mind, 189 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: to do so. And nothing can be allowed to stand 190 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: in the way of this. Slow this down. The Bible administration, 191 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: Clay is all of a sudden getting a little Oh, 192 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: but we need balance and we need to Biden's worried 193 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: about you brought this up. He's worried about the Arab 194 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: American vote, He's worried about the Muslim vote in this country. 195 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: And so he's trying to slowly but surely kind of 196 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: backstab Jewish liberals in this country on this issue. He's 197 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: trying to get away with it. 198 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also keep in mind even the hostage exchange. 199 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it on this program, but you're 200 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: talking about babies being exchanged for people who committed actual 201 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: crimes and Palestine getting back three for every one. There 202 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: are no babies in the possession of the Jewish population. 203 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: There are no women and children who happen to be 204 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: kidnapped doing nothing wrong in the possession of the Jewish people. 205 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: They are trading actual criminals for one hundred percent innocent people. 206 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I've spent time with members of the elite 207 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: Israeli military services, you Sireth Matkal and some of these 208 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: other you know, sort of close to their equivalent of 209 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: Seals or their equivalent of Delta Special Forces. If they 210 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: were ordered to go into a village and rape a 211 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: bunch of Palestinian women, they wouldn't do it. Now, first 212 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: of all, they would never be ordered to do about 213 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: the Israeli state. But I'm just saying they wouldn't do it. 214 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: I would stake my life on it. They wouldn't do it. 215 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Hamas though just did it, you know, broad scale. It 216 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: wasn't just one or two guys. 217 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: This video ragged about it, called their parents to talk 218 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: about how many Jews they had just killed. 219 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: But so this is why I keep saying that there's 220 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: this Oh, we need to be careful in our condemnation 221 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: and what you know, a representative Jaia Paul is saying, 222 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: and you know, there's bad on both sides. No, no, no, no, no, 223 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, no, no, not not on my watch, 224 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: not today, not with what we know has happened here 225 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: and what the future is of this conflict and what 226 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: needs to happen in order for the Israeli state to 227 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: be safe. What Hamas did is is for currently and 228 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: forever entirely indefensible. And the Left is in a panic 229 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: because at some level they understand that, at some level, 230 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: there's no way to make it disappear that they beheaded 231 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: babies and they gang raped women, because that's not military, 232 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: that's not resistance. That is monstrous evil, and it was 233 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: done from the command and control level on down by 234 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: these Hamas monsters, and they need to be hunted down. 235 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: And whatever we can do to back Israel up in 236 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: this process is what we should do. All right. I 237 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: gotta switch heres here for a second, because look, I 238 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: know the economy is still really well. Look, let's focus 239 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: in on what the problem is. Right. Things are too expensive. 240 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: You're paying too much for stuff that you've been paying 241 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: for your whole life. I know, I just got out 242 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: of a Publix here down in Florida, and the prices 243 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: have gone up for everything, Eggs, which I buy all 244 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: the time. Obviously we need gas here, we all need 245 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: gas to get around. Well, what if I told you 246 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: I could say over the course of the year, hundreds 247 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: of dollars and there's no downside. In fact, all there 248 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: is is upside. Well, this is why I need to 249 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: check out the Upside app. I've got it on my 250 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: phone and it's kind of fun actually, because you're like, wait, 251 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get gas, hold on, what's the best deal? 252 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: You open up the Upside app on your phone and 253 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: it shows you where you can get great discounts on 254 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: gasoline and on groceries, and you're probably thinking, like, what's 255 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: the you know, what's the downside of this? There is 256 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: no downside. It is all upside. You can save fifty 257 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: cents or more per gallon in grocery shopping. 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You can also 333 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: go to Bill O'Reilly dot com for the No Spin news. 334 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: Bill. 335 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again. 336 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 5: You know I'm on TV with you guys now right. 337 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm all dressed up. I had to get 338 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 5: makeup in here just for you guys. I want to 339 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 5: give you a compliment before we start. Last time was 340 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 5: on we talked a little bit about Killing the Witches, 341 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: and it spiked up on Amazon about two hundred points. 342 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 5: It was, you know, early in the distribution of the book. 343 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: So far it sold two hundred and fifty thousand copies 344 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 5: in two months, which in this day and age when 345 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 5: you know, reading is down because of the Internet, because 346 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: of a cell phone, so you guys have some cloud 347 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 5: out there. 348 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: I'm happy to be back. 349 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 5: Killing the Witches is going to be very viable as 350 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 5: a Christmas gift, so I hope everybody it just takes 351 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: a look. 352 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely and I think it's a fascinating part of 353 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: history and so people should should check it out. And Bill, 354 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: I wanted to get you to weigh in if I could, 355 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: on something we were just talking about before, and it's 356 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: do you see a big problem here unfolding for Biden 357 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: and the Democrats going into this election year. We're on 358 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: the one hand, they've got this radical left, pro Hamas 359 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: pro Palestinian stuff going on on campus mostly, but some 360 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: stuff in the media and these but they also want 361 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: to not be seen as betraying Jewish American Democrat voters. 362 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: And it feels like right now Biden can't make he 363 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: can't make both groups happy. Is this a big issue? 364 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: How do you think it plays out? 365 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: Well, it's a cumulative effect on Biden. 366 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 5: So there's a new harrass pole shows Trump beating Biden 367 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: pretty handily, particularly when rfk uh is uh is pulled 368 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 5: in the three way race. 369 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: So Biden is in a position. 370 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 5: Now where his economic policies are hurting everybody in the 371 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 5: sense that the average American household now spends twelve thousand 372 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: dollars more in essentials than it did the last year 373 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 5: of Trump. 374 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: People know it. The folks know it. 375 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 5: So that's a big, big mark against Biden on the 376 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 5: other stuff, whether it be his age, whether it be Hunter. 377 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 5: And there's a report out today that Hunter paid him 378 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: thirteen hundred a month. 379 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: It's picky ewn. 380 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 5: By the way, they still don't have Biden getting a 381 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 5: massive amount of money from Hunters grifting. They may get 382 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 5: it they being the House subcommittee on this because Hunter. 383 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: Biden has to come in to testify in two weeks. 384 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 5: But right now the perception of Biden is he's not 385 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: doing anything right nothing. 386 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: Now. 387 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 5: Jeffrey Katzenberg is running his campaign. You know who Katzenberg is, 388 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 5: you guys. 389 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean basically one of the biggest Hollywood producers of 390 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: all time. 391 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 5: Right right, So Katzenberg is tight in with Spielberg, is 392 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: tight end with the whole Hollywood nexus, and those guys 393 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 5: are the money behind Joe Biden. 394 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: All right, That's who's driving the treasury there. 395 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 5: But they don't want anybody sympathizing with Hamas. They are 396 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: backers of Israel, so that the rank and file progressive left, 397 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: the AOCS, the other crazy squad people they hate Israel, 398 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 5: and the progressive movement hates Israel things. 399 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: It is a fascist nation. 400 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 5: But the power behind the Biden campaign. The moneymen are 401 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: all Jewish and they're pro Israel, and so Biden's caught 402 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: right in the middle there, which is why you don't 403 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: I don't see any strength. And again it's a cumulative thing. 404 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 5: So the economy is hurting the folks. Ukraine is a mess, 405 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 5: Israel is a mess. What's going right, That's what's gonna 406 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 5: sink Biden. 407 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: Iowa caucuses six weeks from today, legitimately January fifteenth, first 408 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: votes can be cast associated with twenty twenty four bill. 409 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: Do you think it is going to be. 410 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: The case that if we finally get down to Ron 411 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: DeSantis versus Trump, or Nicky Haley versus Trump, that anyone 412 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: out there or you know, Vivaik or whoever would be 413 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: the final number two candidate, that anybody can take down Trump? 414 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: Or do you basically think Trump is the nominee? This 415 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: thing is effectively over. As we sit here, six weeks 416 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: out from the first votes being cast. 417 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 5: All you can do is say what would happen today 418 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: or tomorrow? Can't because there's so many things involved, and 419 00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: it's Donald Trump. 420 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: Always keep that in mind. 421 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 5: So if it's Donald Trump, you don't know what's going 422 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 5: to happen on Thursday. 423 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 4: Okay, anything could happen. 424 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: So right now there's no challenger that's close, and I 425 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: don't think that's going to change. So there's debate tonight 426 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 5: Wednesday of this week News Nation. 427 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: I'll be part of that analyzing that. 428 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 5: And Nikky Haley has emerged as the strength now against Trump, 429 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: but she's still He's still beating her three four to one. 430 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 5: Trump would be wise to put her on the number 431 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 5: two and announce that early. That would moderate Trump's position, 432 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: particularly with women, and he needs So I don't know 433 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 5: if the Trump campaign or the former president himself knows 434 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 5: you've got to get more than the MAGA people in 435 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: a general election to have to puts Pailey on the two, 436 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: which she would take, that really strengthens him. Desanta's I 437 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 5: think helped himselves a little bit last week with the 438 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 5: debate against Newsom, and I write about that on Bill 439 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 5: O'Reilly dot com. Newsom was so appalling that it made 440 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: to say it is look decenters not to do anything. 441 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: He just says that I'm gonna let it. 442 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna let Newsom have my time. That's what he 443 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: should have just done. You take that's how bad do 444 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: some was? 445 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 4: Okay? 446 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 5: And sows the Santa has helped himself a little, but 447 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 5: he's not gonna win Iowa. And if he doesn't win Iowa, 448 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 5: it's over for Desanthus, so the last person standing as 449 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: Nikki Hayley, Trump should co opt her, take her off 450 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: the board. 451 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 452 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 5: And that which mean the Republicans be a lot stronger 453 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: going into next year. 454 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: Speaking of Bill, O'Reilly killing the Witches the latest and 455 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: the Killing series and Bill, people are thinking about gifts 456 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: for the holidays. You know, people have heard of Salem 457 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: witch trial before. We've talked to you a little bit 458 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: about her here on the show. What what's new that 459 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: people will get from the book, you know, either in 460 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 2: terms of perspective or just historically. And because I know 461 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: it's selling like crazy, but why is it selling like crazy? 462 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: Because there's three elements to the book. 463 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 5: There's the appalling thing that happened in sixteen ninety two, 464 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 5: all right, which people have heard about, but they don't 465 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 5: really know how bad it was, all right, So we 466 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: lay it out very vividly, but we begin with the Mayflower. 467 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 5: Everybody thinks the Mayflower was the love boat, that it 468 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 5: was Carnival cruise lines. 469 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: Hey, Mayflower. No, it was horrendous. 470 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 5: And the fact that these hundred people made it here 471 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 5: and then they all went nuts and some of them 472 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: migrated up to Salem, and then that happened. But the 473 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 5: real crux of the book is we have freedom of 474 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 5: religion because of the Salem witch Trials. There's no freedom religion. 475 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 5: Back in sixteen ninety two, you did what the Puritan 476 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: minister told you to do, or you were in the rack, 477 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 5: or had a noose. 478 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: Around your neck. 479 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: Benjamin Franklin picked that up as a teenager in Boston, 480 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: took it to the convention. People don't know that that 481 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: our freedoms today a lot of them come from the 482 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 5: Salem witch Trials. And then there's what's going on today, 483 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 5: the witch trials today in New York State where I am, 484 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 5: the expiration of the ability to file a lawsuit that 485 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: in nineteen twenty two somebody did something bad to you, 486 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: expired four thousand cases. Lawyers are advertising on television. Tell me, 487 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 5: tell me when I do an unbelievable witch hunt. 488 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 4: Four thousand cases filed. 489 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 5: In November alone in New York State, and some of 490 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 5: them are valid. 491 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: But you don't think there's a witch hunt going on. 492 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 5: There's not a man in this country that couldn't have 493 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 5: his reputation destroyed in a blink of an eye by 494 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 5: an attorney if there's money in it. 495 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: And that's a witch hunt. 496 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 5: And it is so powerful that has inhibited people on 497 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 5: cable news in particular from saying saying anything scared to 498 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: death and so the witch hunt today, no due process. 499 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 5: The media just slams the headline you're through that ties 500 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 5: into what happened in Salem. 501 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: There's no difference other than the rope. 502 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: Bill, You and me are on the side of truth 503 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: justice in the American way in believing that Joe Biden's 504 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: not going to be the nominal again. Every time you 505 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: come on, I just want us to again reinforce how 506 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: correct you are. 507 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: No, but we well we could be wrong. 508 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill says, take the hint. 509 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: Buddy, because look, I've been wrong. 510 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 5: I was wrong about the midterm elections and still haunts me. 511 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 5: I thought that was going to be just a landslide 512 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 5: for the work the club. A yeah, but most of 513 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 5: the football raise their kids, so it takes them a 514 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 5: little bit longer. But Joe Biden is the second worst 515 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 5: president in the nation's history. Next to James Buchanan, who 516 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: did absolutely nothing to stop this. 517 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: Great historical analogy. 518 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people forgotten about James Buchanan right before, 519 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: right before Abraham Lincoln came in, right. 520 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: Biden is the second worst, worse than Herbert Hoover, worse 521 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 5: than Warren Harding. I am writing a book as we 522 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: speak that will be out next September twenty four about 523 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 5: every president and how good or bad they were every one. 524 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 5: It's called Confronting the President's all right, Biden is so 525 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 5: bad in every way, and when the Liberals come up 526 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 5: against me in my Notespin News, I say, give me 527 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 5: one thing, one thing that Joe Biden's do in three 528 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: years to improve this country. One thing they can't do it. 529 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 5: Do you guys know of one thing the show. 530 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: I put on that hotspot, I've said, if someone's gonna 531 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: give you a million dollars, what would you say? The 532 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: big Biden victory is, And you know, not being Trump 533 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: doesn't count. So we're we're with you on that one bill. 534 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: Everyone should go Billa, go to Billo rally dot com bill. 535 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: We got to cut it here, but everyone should go 536 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: to the Bill of Rilly dot com site. Also get 537 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: the Killing the Witches book, which is out now. Bill, 538 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: thanks so much. We'll have you back soon. 539 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 4: Okay, guys, Merry Christmas. 540 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you. Man. By the way, I love 541 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: the way he tied that into the current situation and 542 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: and what's going on, because it should be. It should 543 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: be troubling to people. What's happening this this you know, 544 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: how do you defend yourself from, you know, someone saying 545 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: this guy grabbed me thirty years ago. How do you 546 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: prove you in that shat of limitations exist for a 547 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: whole lot of things, and and there are things that 548 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: it should be expanded to include. 549 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: I saw three or four different people in New York 550 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: City who are prominent buck get charged with early night 551 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: teen nineties sexual assault allegations, including Mayor Eric Adams of 552 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: New York City. Leave aside whatever political disagreements you may 553 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: have nineteen ninety three or nineteen ninety four, you're gonna 554 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: suddenly say somebody did something to you inappropriate, and you're 555 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: going to argue that they're responsible for it is. This 556 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: is razy, and I tht more and more people are 557 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: recognizing how crazy it is. 558 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: This country needs to have a real, you know moment, 559 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: at least in some states, I should say it really 560 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: states a real moment about the statute of limitations as 561 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: it pertains to some of these cases. As you raise 562 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: also this idea that you can be you can lose 563 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: a civil judgment in a self defense case after you've 564 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: been exonerated or at least not guilty in a you know, 565 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: in a self defense case of using a firearm, for example, 566 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: people still get sued. This is happening all over the place. 567 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: So if someone breaks into your home, you defend yourself 568 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: with a firearm, it's totally lawful. Either there's no charges 569 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: brought against you, or you're found not guilty in accord 570 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: and that person's a state. Assuming you know, the burglar, 571 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: the home invader, you know, dies in this process, that 572 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: person's the state can sue you and they can win. Yeah, 573 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: this is great. 574 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just craziness for beyond a reasonable doubt 575 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: versus you know, the preponderance of the evidence standard in 576 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: civil versus criminal that area in between the two. But yeah, 577 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: there's a look, there are a lot of things that 578 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: came from the Me Too movement that are unmitigated disasters, 579 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: and one of them is the ending of any sort 580 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: of statute limitations on a state base to see. 581 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll come back here in a second. 582 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: I want to tell you about something really interesting, Actually 583 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: a couple things are really interesting in the realm of technology. 584 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: And then third hour, Clay and I are going to 585 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: dive into a big study on masks for kids. Spoiler 586 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: alert their garbage. We'll come right back. 587 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: Download and use the new Clay and Buck app. Listen 588 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: to the program live catch up on any part of 589 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: the show you might have missed. State current with what 590 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck a saying on TV. Fine the Clay 591 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: and one of. 592 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: The motions the entire world when it comes to technology 593 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: is artificial intelligence. Some would argue it's right now the 594 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: most cutting edge area of tech, and its presence is 595 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: already really powerful and smart vehicles, medical advances, customer service communications. 596 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: I mean, AI is just going to become the future. 597 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: Even more so. Writer and tech expert Colin teed Arts 598 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: gives this part of the tech industry, the AI sector, 599 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: his in depth attention, and he sees big upside for 600 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: investors who understand what artificial intelligence is going to do 601 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: in the years ahead. He's recommending Colin teed Art's a 602 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: tech company that he thinks could be a huge, huge 603 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: benefit for your brokerage account. Remember about a year ago November, 604 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: Colin recommended one such tech company, and the stock price 605 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: more than double. So people that followed Colin's advice in 606 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 2: the past made out great. You can find out more 607 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: about his next big pick at a website I'd specially 608 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: set up for you to get information on this newaiproject 609 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: dot com. That's newaiproject dot com one more time new 610 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: aiproject dot com paid for by Brownstone Research and Clay. 611 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: If I can just tell you my favorite news story 612 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: from over the weekend, the thing that really got me excited. 613 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: New York City is now setting up cameras that will 614 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: address sound violations from cars. As in cars that have 615 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: super loud exhausts, super loud engines playing music crazy loud. 616 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: They can get fine starting an eight hundred dollars. I 617 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: love this so much that I want I want to 618 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: fund some of these in Miami Beach. I will write 619 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: the check for the city's sound cameras on my block. 620 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 2: Because people need to stop being such selfish jerks revving 621 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: their loud motors. Nobody cares. It's a plague for our ears. 622 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: I could not be more more ticked off about this stuff. 623 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: I you and sound. Yeah, I know, especially I would 624 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: if I didn't know. 625 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: When I hear you discuss sound, I would think that 626 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: you grew up on like an Iowa farm with no neighbors, 627 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: like you know, one hundred miles within your your radius 628 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: and in absolute silence. Yes, I agree with you that 629 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: people who go by It used to be kind of 630 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: a big deal that if you were in your car 631 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: and you were just whatever music you've got, you were 632 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: just playing it as loudly as you possibly could. It 633 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: feels like that used to be way more socially unacceptable. 634 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: Now it seems to happen all the time, right, and 635 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: you're stuck in traffic and somebody happens to sit next 636 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: to you. But between this and Bus twenty seven, you 637 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: by the time you get to be seven or eighty, 638 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: unless your hearing goes, which could happen, yeah, you're gonna 639 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: need to live. 640 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: On a farm. Yeah, well, Bus twenty seven. I was 641 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 2: victorious in that battle. I will say it is now. 642 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: It now purrs like a kitten that bused no problems 643 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: and people need to be held accountable for their noise pollution. 644 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: And there are city ordinances against this. It is already 645 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: against the law. Decibels can be and in fact is 646 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 2: very possible to be measured. And yeah, eight hundred dollars fines, 647 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'll volunteer, Clay, I'll give out the tickets myself. 648 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: I just need a city to deputize me. I'll do 649 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: it for New York. I'll do it for Miami. Your 650 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: loud cars, I'm coming for them, loud car. 651 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: I love you with a little notebooks, viral notebook, we 652 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: come back. Masks make no sense.