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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal call that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day? Edith Steak, is that whoo whoo? And

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Speaker 1: then and tie be Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Mister Dan Rubins seen how's the voice today? Is it

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Speaker 1: And that's that's something.

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Speaker 2: Seems like it's in about seventy five percent. You're not

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Speaker 2: you sounded like Reyese Davis on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think did I sound as bad as

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Speaker 2: If I did, I apologize, I feel like you kind

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Speaker 1: Well, it happens to all of college football's most notable speakers.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back one, Welcome back all, Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: This is the Tuesday spillover episode. This is the episode

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Speaker 2: the Saturday Night at Midnight recap of all things college

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Speaker 2: football Week seven. We also have a game of sorts,

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Speaker 2: a topic that was suggested to us by our verballers

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Speaker 2: that is at verballers dot calm Dan. We also have

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Speaker 2: a new Verballer Top twelve poll, which will unveil here momentarily.

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Speaker 1: It's always an exciting chapter with you, Ty.

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Speaker 2: You know that I do I do any thoughts, any

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Speaker 2: But that is a significant blow for the Notre Dame defense.

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Speaker 2: That is the purpose of this segment today. Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 2: Yes, this year, Colorado is going to be a ball team.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Iowa State has a forty one percent chance

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Speaker 1: and three type program at their best. And that's in

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Speaker 1: a different conference, of course, But look, what can you

435
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Speaker 1: point to right now with Tshan Foster to sort of

436
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Speaker 1: keep him around. He's not expensive, so it's not like

437
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Speaker 1: you're on the hook for a ton of money. He's

438
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Speaker 1: not going gangbusters in recruiting as far as I can tell,

439
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: and so you're like, wow, you know, can't get rid

440
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Speaker 1: of them quickly. You know, we got to see what

441
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Speaker 1: you got to give him time to see what he

442
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Speaker 1: can do with this like crazy impressive recruiting class. He

443
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have a history at UCLA in terms of head

444
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: coaching history to lean back on to be like, yes,

445
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Speaker 1: it's a down year, but like you know, you look

446
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Speaker 1: at somebody like Dave Randa, Like Dave Randall won the

447
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: com Tilani Sataki has had success here, so there's a

448
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: little bit of benefit of the doubt to say, like,

449
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: you know what, let's give this guy a shot to

450
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: get back to where he has had this program before. Also, though,

451
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: like one year is such a short amount of time,

452
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: especially given the timing of when he took over, to

453
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: give a head coach, especially one who you have to

454
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Speaker 1: have every belief like, wants to win at UCLA, played

455
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Speaker 1: at UCLA, was a star at UCLA, is a big

456
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: believer in UCLA. Like it would be ideal if Deshaun

457
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: Foster got it figured out in the medium term, but

458
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: there has to be at least morsels, you know, just

459
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Speaker 1: look at and say like, oh, I see you know,

460
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 1: you squint and you're like, well, I can see how

461
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Speaker 1: the offense is picking it up.

462
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Speaker 2: You see the vision, you see where it's headed, the

463
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Speaker 2: recruiting machine.

464
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Speaker 1: Is ramping up, and you're just like, I don't know, man,

465
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Speaker 1: I really hate the idea of firing a coach after

466
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Speaker 1: one year, truly, especially given the circumstances he came in under.

467
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Speaker 1: But this is not a team that looks prepared to

468
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Speaker 1: compete for four quarters, like did it for quarters at

469
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: LSU didn't score a single point in the second half,

470
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Speaker 1: And there's like that that ongoing trend with UCLA just

471
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: they're not built to They're not coach too. That doesn't

472
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Speaker 1: seem like they have the vision to compete for four quarters,

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Speaker 1: no matter the level of opponent. And that's that's hard

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Speaker 1: to see changing. But I don't know. I'm still a

475
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Speaker 1: believer that unless unless it's so obvious behind the scenes

476
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Speaker 1: that he's so in over his head, and if that's

477
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Speaker 1: the case, you got to move on. You just have

478
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: to move on if a coach is if this level

479
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Speaker 1: is not for the coach and in this moment in

480
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Speaker 1: his career, you gotta move on.

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Speaker 2: That got me to thinking more broadly about the coaching carousel. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I still have questions about Florida. I expect that they

483
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Speaker 2: will move on from Billy Napier. Don't know, don't know,

484
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Speaker 2: especially now with Graham Mertz coming down with that injury.

485
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Speaker 2: If starting the freshman is going to give him something

486
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Speaker 2: of a stay of execution.

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Speaker 1: The next three look beatable. Can Kentucky at home? Yeah?

488
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Speaker 1: But then but then go ahead, Georgia at Texas. Other

489
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Speaker 1: next three Kentucky, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Texas going then home against LSU, home against Old Miss

491
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Speaker 2: and Florida State and Florida Stable. Florida State right now

492
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Speaker 2: projected to beat Kentucky but lose four in a row

493
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Speaker 2: to those four big dogs.

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Speaker 1: Which would put them at five and seven. That would

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Speaker 1: put them at five and seven. I don't know LSU's defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they're right there with Tennessee. So if

497
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Speaker 1: you're saying Florida is Tennessee, ish, I still think they're

498
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Speaker 1: going to move on. But we'll see.

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Speaker 2: That's one to consider. Yeah, I think Miranda is done

500
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Speaker 2: at Baylor. Okay, I think Sam Pittman maybe done. Wouldn't

501
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Speaker 2: surprise me, but okay, better vibes wouldn't surprise me. If

502
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Speaker 2: Mac Brown walks away given a reason that North Carolina

503
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: is having, it might be the best thing for him.

504
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Ryan Walters at Purdue that's been a disaster. Brent Prye

505
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: has been a disaster this year at Virginia Tech. Hugh

506
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: Freeze has been something of a disaster at Auburn. Starting

507
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: to wonder about Sunny Dike's at TCU. I'm up to

508
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: eight here as I'm counting out. Yeah, that's not even

509
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: to mention what's going on at Kentucky with Mark Stoops,

510
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: which feels like bad vibes, and his buyout, by the

511
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: way I checked, is only four million dollars. They decided

512
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Speaker 2: they wanted to go a different direction there, or whatever

513
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Speaker 2: it's worth to you. I don't expect that they would

514
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Speaker 2: pay eighty eight million dollars to buy out Lincoln Riley.

515
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Speaker 2: But there aren't great vibes right now at USC either, right.

516
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Speaker 2: Ten names right there? Ten names just kind of off

517
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Speaker 2: the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: You don't suspect USC is going to pay eighty eight

519
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Speaker 1: million dollars to get rid of Lincoln Riley. Yeah, they're

520
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Speaker 1: not paying eighty eight million dollar. I don't think they're

521
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Speaker 1: going to. But there's ten names for you. There's ten names.

522
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Speaker 2: If we start thinking broadly about the coaching carousel, maybe more,

523
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Speaker 2: maybe I left somebody off that I think make this

524
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Speaker 2: a very very active cycle eventually once we get there

525
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Speaker 2: and we haven't seen a coach get fired yet, despite

526
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Speaker 2: some of the preseason shadow that we had, whether it's

527
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Speaker 2: going to be Napier or Pittman or somebody else, we

528
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Speaker 2: haven't seen anybody pull the ripcord.

529
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Speaker 1: Yet I'm interested about I don't know. Talking a little

530
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: bit further about Sam Pittman and Arkansas right now, they're

531
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Speaker 1: at four and two right, could easily be at five

532
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: and one, which is not necessarily a good thing in

533
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Speaker 1: Pittman's favor, given the way they lost the Oklahoma State game.

534
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Speaker 1: But they've got a bunch of flawed teams on this

535
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Speaker 1: schedule too.

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Speaker 2: I like them. I don't want them to fire Sam Pittman.

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Speaker 2: I really don't, but talk about flaws, Okay, The two

538
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: flawed teams that they've got on the schedule are Mississippi

539
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: State and Louisiana Tech, who's on an SEC team. But

540
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Speaker 2: outside of those two, they've got LSU, They've got Old

541
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Speaker 2: miss they've got Texas, and they've gotten missoo.

542
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Right, but they have lis the back end of LSU.

543
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 1: LSU's defense, and that's LSU in a letdown spot right

544
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: this coming week. Arkansas coming off of bye YEP Situationally,

545
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Speaker 1: that's not too bad for Arkansas. We've all watched Arkansas

546
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: LSU games. We all saw what was it Arkansas's groundskeeper

547
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: leave the sprinklers on in freezing temperatures, and ice the field. Yeah,

548
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: there's just that game is always strange. It's always strange.

549
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: And that game is in Fayetteville at night this coming week. Yes, correct,

550
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: Mississippi State on the road. It's still gonna be difficult.

551
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: Their offense seems to be getting to a nice place.

552
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: They're starting. Was it van Buren? Michael van Buren? Van

553
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: Buren one time Oregon and Penn State commit. I think

554
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: correct at quarterback, and he's shown some spunk. Texas is

555
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: not flawed. No ole miss We'll see. That game is

556
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Speaker 1: in Fayetteville once again at MISSOO is going to be difficult.

557
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: But we're not talking about a MISSOO team that has

558
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: appeared to be as bulletproof. I'll speak for myself as

559
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: I thought they'd be heading into the season. I'm just

560
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: saying Arkansas can be just the flying the ointment across

561
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: the board this year. And I said maybe, I don't

562
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: say maybe, and this was not a definitive term from you.

563
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And look as it stands right now, you beat

564
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Speaker 2: Mississippi State, Louisiana Tech two team to should beat, You're

565
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Speaker 2: going to a bull yep compared to where we thought

566
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Speaker 2: Arkansas would be at this point in time halfway through

567
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Speaker 2: the season, when truly we thought Sam Pittman might already

568
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: be fired. That's progress, that's real progress. Yeah, you know,

569
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Speaker 2: I like Taylor Green, right, Don't get me going on

570
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: tailing Green. I could do a full hour on tailing Green.

571
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: LSU has gotten better against the run, to be clear,

572
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Speaker 1: and that might be a bad thing for Arkansas. Might

573
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Speaker 1: be a bad thing. And they could lose four.

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Speaker 2: Of these six games to still finish six and six

575
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: going to a ball I don't think they should, but

576
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Speaker 2: I also don't know the state of play at Arkansas

577
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: and what their expectations are for this program moving forward.

578
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: I want to believe that seeing somebody like a Tailor

579
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Green out there has given them some hope and promise

580
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: that Sam Pittman still has an eye for talent. I

581
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: do think this is a better team on the whole,

582
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: and you're right, there are some flawed teams. But if

583
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: they drop one of these what appeared to be mulligans,

584
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: that's a problem for them.

585
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Speaker 1: You know.

586
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Speaker 2: I think if they miss a Bowl then I could

587
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Speaker 2: see them maybe making a move.

588
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I also don't think Arkansas behind the scenes is going

589
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: to be all too thrilled with only six and six

590
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: as like a proof that things are better once again.

591
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: No, especially now knowing that they're willing to go out

592
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: there and spending it John Calipari on the basketball side right,

593
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: clearly they've got expectations for the athletic program, and I

594
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: don't know six and six is good enough. So that's

595
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: just at least something to keep an eye on.

596
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: Things are about to go wild in the American I

597
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: have that down as things that I've sort of recently

598
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: discovered more thoroughly, just with what Tulane and Memphis and

599
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: Navy and Charlotte and North Texas have coming up at

600
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: or near the top of the American and less. So.

601
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Speaker 1: I think it's Navy who has Tulane. Army does not.

602
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: They both have Notre Dame Army and Navy do, but

603
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: only Navy has Tulane. It's about to get very intestuous

604
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: within the American scheduling wise. Everybody's playing everybody, and it's

605
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: about to get very fun and more will be there

606
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: will be more sense made coming up in the American

607
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: But it's about to get very fun this back half

608
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: of October in the a see what else you got

609
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: for me? If Wazoo doesn't go eleven in one, it'd

610
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: be kind of surprising. Have you seen wazoo schedule in

611
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: this moment, Yes, Wazoo is on and now, look they

612
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: don't have a conference to win and get into the

613
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: playoff in that sense, they can get in as an

614
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: at large team, yes they could. They can get in

615
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: as an at large eleven and one team really needed

616
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: that Boise Win, really needed to go undefeated to have

617
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: the best possible shot. But with what their schedule looks

618
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: like in the back end, I don't believe they have

619
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: UNLV right. No, it's Hawaii at.

620
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: San Diego State home against Utah State at New Mexico

621
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: at Oregon State. That's really the big one that remains

622
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: in this schedule, and then they close out the year

623
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: at home against Wyoming. By this measure here, they are

624
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: at least a two touchdown favored in every game, with

625
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: the exception of that Oregon State game, which right now

626
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: figures to be about to pick them.

627
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: And that's an Oregon State team who just lost at

628
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Nevada and is down like five to six defensive linemen

629
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: in this moment to injury. They are extremely thin on

630
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: defense right now, which is not great when you look

631
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: at what Washington State has been able to do on the.

632
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 2: Ground, about a seventy seven percent chance of winning at

633
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: least ten games for WAZU, which look totally separate from

634
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: everything and where it fits into the broader discussion. It's

635
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: a nice effort for Washington State to get a season

636
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: like this, after all the real from a year ago.

637
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: And lost their quarterback, Loostter quarterback to Miami.

638
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, John Mattier. We're all material girls.

639
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: You know that, We're all material girls. Louisiana School were

640
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: mentioned LSU, but like both Louisiana and Monroe are having

641
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: like quietly really nice years, and I think it's worth

642
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: monitoring Sun Belt wise. But oh, Purdue Illinois. That second

643
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: half was maybe the most entertaining half of football for

644
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: people who don't necessarily need defense in their lives. Illinois

645
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: blew a lead two quick touchdowns for Purdue. Purdue is

646
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: throwing the ball super well. Devin Mock could be both

647
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: running the ball and out of the backfield as a

648
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: pass catcher. Scored forty second half points, and the actual

649
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: passing game for Purdue looked real and it largely hit.

650
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: It likely has something to do with Hudson card no

651
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: longer being the starting quarterback and Graham Harrold no longer

652
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: being employed as the offensive coordinator. That they're just sort

653
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: of an effet mode. Oregon has Purdue this week, short

654
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: week on the road. I'm just telling you Purdue does

655
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: not have a defense. That the talent level of Purdue

656
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: is not anywhere near what Oregons is. But let's Purdue's

657
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: nickname as like an identity within the Big Ten? Are

658
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: they not the spoiler maker? Organ's coming off of a historic,

659
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: monumental program defining win and now has to travel to

660
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: West Lafayette on short rest. I don't believe Lafayette is

661
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: going to win this game. We'll get into this in

662
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: the preview more. But this sort of struck me watching

663
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: the game that like, this team does not give a

664
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: flock tie. Yeah, this team does not care and they

665
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: lost the game to Illinois. Luke Altmeyer looked very good.

666
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: The passing game for Illinois looked really good. But situationally,

667
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: I saw Oregon was favored by like four touchdowns. I

668
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: think Oregon might be throwing a bunch of second stringers

669
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: into this game. Let's go win by ten to thirteen

670
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: and move on, because not ideal a time to play

671
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: a team who just does not care if you're Oregon, if.

672
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm an Old Miss fan, right now, I feel like

673
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: I'm stuck inside that Spider Man meme where he's pointing

674
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: at himself. Okay, on one side, you've got the twenty

675
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: twenty four version of Old Miss. On the other, you've

676
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: got him pointing back at pretty much every previous version

677
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: of Old Miss.

678
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: Hm. It feels.

679
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: Like an identical team pointing back at itself at this point,

680
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: and I can only imagine how how frustrating that must be.

681
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: After all of the hype coming into this year, after

682
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: we looked at the schedule and looked at the roster

683
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: and felt like this was finally going to be it,

684
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: we talked, as you may recall a lot about how

685
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: Old Miss had a lot in common with the Tennessees

686
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: and the Penn States and maybe the Utahs of the world,

687
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: these teams that have been very good, but because the

688
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: system before wasn't big enough to allow more teams into

689
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: the playoff, they just never really had a shot, and

690
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: you'd lose one, you'd lose two, you were done. Here

691
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: we stand out midway through the season, and it feels

692
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: like Old Miss is out of this thing already. It

693
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: feels like they're out of it. To your point from

694
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: earlier with Lane Kiffin sort of having a human moment,

695
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: human moment in reaction to the loss. I would welcome

696
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: feedback from Arvar ballerhood out there that cheers for Old Miss,

697
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: and we got a couple of calls about it, but

698
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear more about how you're feeling right now.

699
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: And I saw our friends at messageboard Geniuses. We're having

700
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: a little bit fun with this as some people out

701
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: on the Old Miss message board for saying it's trying

702
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: to move on past Lane Kiffin, and I think this

703
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 2: is when you see some of the crazies come out

704
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: and some of the crazy talk come out in response

705
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: to another loss. But frustrating, I don't know, extraordinarily frustrating

706
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: to know all this talent is assembled and ready to

707
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 2: go and still.

708
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: It feels like you're back at square one. I'll stay

709
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Briefly. I rewatched Vanderbilt Kentucky one. I'm

710
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: pretty sure they have two head coaches. I'm pretty sure

711
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: Clark Lee is just coaching the defense and Jerry Kill

712
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: and Tim Becker coaching the offense, and maybe the high

713
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: level decisions are being made by Clark Lee about timeouts

714
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: and whether to go for it on third or fourth

715
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: or something like that, maybe even not. I was watching

716
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: that and I was like, Okay, they built the whole

717
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: plane out of Diego Pavia and he's incredible and he

718
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: is improvising and he is coming up with play after play.

719
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: What does a post Diego Pavia Vanderbilt look like like?

720
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Have they already started scouting like the G five quarterback

721
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: that they feel like they can throw money like they

722
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: should be constantly in this cycle? Are they gonna go

723
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: hard at Sluka? I was gonna say, Haja Malik Williams,

724
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Souga backup, just hollow out unlv man. But

725
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: it does feel like, yes, a Sluka type somebody who

726
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: is just making play after play A right. I love it.

727
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how sustainable this model is, but Vanny's

728
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: gonna be. Look, first of all, we made a big

729
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: deal out of the Vandy offense, obviously of the stripsack

730
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: against Alabama, which essentially sealed it. The defense played so

731
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: well against Kentucky. This Kentucky offense is broken. They have

732
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: too many players to be this flawed on offense, like

733
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: the receivers are too good, like they just have too

734
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: much talent to be I don't know if it's a

735
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Bush Hampden thing. I don't know if it's a quarterback thing.

736
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, Vanderbilt is just squeezing every drop out

737
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: of this roster, and it's quite fun to watch.

738
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: It is fun to Did you happen to see Mark

739
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: Stoops's reaction to this? There was some weird, bizarre NIL

740
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: related comment associated with it, okay, kind of akin to

741
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: what we saw a year ago when he urged Kentucky fans,

742
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: if they are unsatisfied, they need to.

743
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Donate more to the NIL.

744
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: And he sort of had a circuitest way of taking

745
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: Diego Pavia and his success with bringing him to Vanderbilt

746
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: and then linked it back to how Kentucky fans need

747
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: to go harder at Nil.

748
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: Didn't they go grab George's backup quarterback who was a

749
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: five star.

750
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: Whenever you start hearing kind of like complaints and excuses

751
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: and some of this blame storming, that's why I start

752
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: looking up buyout figures right and start wondering, Okay, is

753
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: this a long term relationship at this point, it's been

754
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: very successful in Kentucky.

755
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he tried to leave for the text A

756
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: and M job. It seemed like he was going to

757
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: that worked out really well text A and M. Because

758
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: right now Mark stoops for as much success as he's

759
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: had at a program that's not necessarily known for high

760
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: level success in their conference playing football, He's like one

761
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: for six on offensive coordinators, and he tried that one

762
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: twice in Liam Cohen. And so for whatever reason, I

763
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: don't know if he can't get out of his own

764
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: way in terms of offensive vision, or he just does

765
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: not have an eye for offensive coordinator talent, or he

766
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: doesn't he's doing something internally that year after year other

767
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: than that one year of Will Evison Liam Cohen, they're

768
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: just like, Man, Kentucky just can't even accidentally step into

769
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: a fun offense. It's just puddle after puddle, and it

770
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: sucks that they're wasting this defense. I can say that. I'm

771
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: sure Kentucky fans are feeling the same way. But yeah,

772
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: watching that game, you're like, man, what is the plan

773
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: here on offense?

774
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: If you're North Carolina, it's your Auburn, would you have

775
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: interest in Mark Stoops.

776
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: North Carolina or all Auburt's not getting rid of their coach.

777
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know.

778
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: Hugh Freezes making a lot of excuses. It seems like

779
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 2: vibes are bad. I don't expect I don't expect they'd

780
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: makeing a move, But recruiting vibes are very high.

781
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: A recruiting vibes are very high. Would I be interested

782
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: in Mark Soops if I were in North Carolina? Probably?

783
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: He's a name that comes up all the time. People

784
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: cite the success he's had at Kentucky. There has been

785
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: an ongoing discussion as to whether he has hit his

786
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: ceiling at Kentucky for a multitude of reasons we won't

787
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: go into here. If there were to be any kind

788
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: of coach and change and Mark Stoops is on the market,

789
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see who'd be interested in those services.

790
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if if the coaching change comes because Kentucky

791
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: loses like their final seven games or something, his name's

792
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: not gonna be as hot. That's just the reality. Maybe

793
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: I'll take a year off and do some TV and

794
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: then coach. I don't know. Yeah, he has at Kentucky

795
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: won enough games in a difficult conference to warrant his

796
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: name being valuable, and so yeah, whether it's a place

797
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: like North Carolina somewhere in the relative regional vicinity, yes,

798
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: I could see it being attractive.

799
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: Any other thoughts before we get to my revised playoff bracket.

800
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I do have thirty seven more Oregon thoughts

801
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: to get into Oregon Ohio State here. Here's my final

802
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: thought is this will serve as a nice transition, yeah,

803
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: to your next segment that as an organ fan, it

804
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: felt great. It was a very fun experience for me.

805
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: After the game ended. It was not fun on that

806
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: last drive wondering if Oregon was going to be able

807
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: to get that stop. But as I've distanced myself from

808
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: the game right Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and I've seen

809
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: like playoff projections like I'm sure what you're about to

810
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: unferral funeral unleash to the world. There's just a lot

811
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: of like, yeoh, Higo State's still go to win the

812
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: Big Ten like kind of reactions where you're just like, oh,

813
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: so Oregon fans get to enjoy this for about forty

814
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: eight hours, and you know, we have all these Ohio

815
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: State people just absolutely losing their mind for forty eight hours.

816
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: They're in like the loser Jacuzzi, the losey Chacuzzi. I

817
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: don't know. But in this new beautiful system, you know,

818
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: in TI hilden Brands America, a big win lasts for

819
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, right, and then you're just like, oh,

820
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, guy, it doesn't matter because they're going

821
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: to play again or Ohio State. It's going to be fine,

822
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: and they're going to win the conference. They're gonna get

823
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: to buy. So it was cute that all of you

824
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: Oregon people thought it was a fun, amazing experience, but

825
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: ultimately it's not going to mean a damn thing. That's

826
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: TI hilden Brands America. Everybody.

827
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have, I have Oregon losing to a exact match.

828
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do.

829
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that resounding one point win. It was very It

830
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: was special. I enjoyed watching it. But Greg Sankie and

831
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 2: Tony Petiti's America as well.

832
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

833
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: The implication here that Oregon dominated Ohio State in any way,

834
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 2: shape or form.

835
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh, they didn't dominate. I mean, you know, well, Ohio

836
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: State could beat him the next time they play, if

837
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: they play right, and look, maybe they'll review an obvious

838
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: interception next time. That's fine, you know that's one of

839
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: those things there will be more attention because you know

840
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: you can get away with nobody watching a huge game

841
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: on network TV. Yeah. I think there's a case we

842
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: made that Oregon should have won by more points and

843
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: they left more points on the field than Ohio State did.

844
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: And maybe next time Ohio State dodges a kick that's

845
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: kicked right at the spleen of a player.

846
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: I think Oregon's five to ten quarterback will still be

847
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: upright by the time they get to that rematch in

848
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: the Big Ten Championship.

849
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the best defensive line they played didn't touch them. Right?

850
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: Should we count the sacks Ohio State had? Okay, here

851
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: we go, I'm going to review the play by play.

852
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: Oh it's none, tie, it's none sacks that Ohio State's

853
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: five star line had against Oregon's five foot ten quarterback,

854
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: who also had a thirty yard touchdown run. Right, it's correct.

855
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: And how much money did that five to ten quarterback

856
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: lose Denzel Burke on Saturday night? Oh no, no, it's

857
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: always like second third round ish, Oh no, no, no, no,

858
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Seems like five to ten might be

859
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: the move by quarterback is out here losing all these

860
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: five stars money.

861
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's do some projections here. So what we

862
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: do In this middle segment we talked through a topic

863
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,680
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864
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,480
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865
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866
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: who says, it's mid season, we're halfway through. It would

867
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: be cool to see revised playoff brackets.

868
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Agreed to dis a great continue.

869
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: I went very deep with this, I know very deep

870
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: with this. I have a full revised field of twelve.

871
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: I went all the way through, looked at individual conference tiebreakers,

872
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: you name it.

873
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: This is about as informed a projection.

874
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: As I can give you at this point through seven

875
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: weeks of the year. So if you can indulge me

876
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: here for a few minutes, I can go through this

877
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: thing for those watching the video at the end, I've

878
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: got the bracket drawn up that I can flash up

879
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: on the screen.

880
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: Floor's yours.

881
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: First things first, Notre Dame is getting in. Okay, Notre

882
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: Dame is getting in. Some people out down, some people

883
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: out there are ironclad on them getting in. I am

884
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: not in that camp, all right. I'm not worried about

885
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: the games against Army Navy. I am a little worried

886
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: this weekend against Georgia Tech away from home. I am

887
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: certainly still worried about that USC game. It's a rivalry.

888
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't know where USC will be.

889
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: We can talk till we're blue in the face about

890
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: USC is not a good team. That's what you said

891
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: before the game last week. USC almost beat Penn State.

892
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: Maybe Penn State's flawed too. Definitely a real chance of that.

893
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: Penn State, even getting rid of the Hail Mary interception,

894
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: Penn State did plenty to try and lose that game

895
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: to US.

896
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so they're you know, there's definitely

897
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: a bigger discussion about Yeah, everybody feels like they're kind

898
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: of the same, or everybody feels like they've got a

899
00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 2: fatal flaw.

900
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is no different in that sense.

901
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: I am not counting that USC game as a definite win.

902
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: It's not one that I'm looking at and saying, oh,

903
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: I feel totally confident with that one. Right But at

904
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: time of recording, I think Notre Dame gets in finishing up.

905
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: It's year eleven to one. How's Notre Dame's defensive line.

906
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's defensive line, all things considered, has still been

907
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: pretty good.

908
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: But then they're going to destroy USC upfront. Okay, all right,

909
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: did you see what Abdul Carter was able to do

910
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: from lining up in the middle of that defensive line

911
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: on was it third and thirteen? There was some like

912
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: crucial third or fourth down late in that game, and

913
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: he had one on one with USC center, who kind

914
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: of barely touched him. USC kept in five and a

915
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: running back to Chip and Miller Moss had a milliseconds

916
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: He had like what a supercomputer can calculate in terms

917
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: of time. He had so little time that it would

918
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: take something in Stockholm, a computer that's taking up a

919
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: room in Stockholm to calculate how much time Miller Moss

920
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: on that play with a four man rush continue.

921
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: In the Big Ten. Regarding the playoff discussion, I think

922
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: the Big Ten is the least interesting power conference. Okay,

923
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: I do think the order of teams will be interesting,

924
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: but I think compared to the SEC, compared to the

925
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: Big Twelve, compared to the ACC, you can compared to

926
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 2: the G five Big ten is the least interesting conference.

927
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: There are three teams getting in. Those three teams are

928
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: going to be Oregon, Ohio State, and Penn State. I

929
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: realize this is the point in the conversation where we

930
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: need to talk about Indiana.

931
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: Of course it is.

932
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Indiana, great story, six and oho. The best team

933
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: they have played to date is.

934
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: Maryland, who just got destroyed by Northwestern, destroyed thirty seven

935
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: to ten.

936
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Indiana is getting into the stretch of their schedule

937
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: now where things are going to get real. They've got Nebraska, Washington,

938
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: Michigan State, and Michigan. They also go to Ohio State

939
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: in late November. I like this team a lot, Dan,

940
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: I do. I love Kurt Signetti. I like the story

941
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: more than I like the team, though I personally hope

942
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: they go twelve and zero. I hope they win the

943
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: damn national championship.

944
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: Good for that. That'd be awesome.

945
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will believe it when I see it. I

946
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: think this is like a ten and two, nine to

947
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: three team, which in its own right is a great,

948
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: great deal for Kurt Signetti, a great.

949
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Deal for this program.

950
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: But let's be real about this, okay, ok, Indiana is

951
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: not getting in the playoff. I also don't think I

952
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: was getting in the playoff. I think I was gonna

953
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: win out. I think they're going to finish ten and two.

954
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: I think they'd need a lot of help to get

955
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: into the Big Ten title game. It's just going to

956
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: be a postseason story that we take and run with.

957
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: They might beat somebody in the bowl game, or they

958
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: might get shut out like they did a year ago.

959
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: The plus for Iowa right now is their loss to

960
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Iowa State. Iowa State needing what a fifty plus yard

961
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: field goal to win that. Yeah, it's a better lossitt

962
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: more defensible losses in America right now, if that's important

963
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: to you, if that's important to Greg Zank, whoever's actually

964
00:48:59,160 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: deciding the playoff.

965
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: But they're not getting in that Big Ten title game.

966
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: They would need a ton of help.

967
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: So I was out to me, Michigan's out to me,

968
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: all right. I think they've got at least two more

969
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: losses in them. I don't trust them against Illinois, and

970
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: it feels to me like every time I try to

971
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 2: go through it and work out the math, it's coming

972
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: down to those three teams that I mentioned at the top.

973
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: The bigger question to me is this, is there a

974
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: chance that Penn State could not Ohio State out of

975
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: this conversation entirely with a second loss. With a second loss,

976
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: James Franklin does not win this game historically against the.

977
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: Unless unless they're what blocking a miracle field goal at

978
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, historically is not a game he wins.

979
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: It has been a source of obvious frustration.

980
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: In the Penn State community.

981
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's worth having that conversation as

982
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: for whether or not a second loss for Ohio State

983
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: losing to what would be two playoff teams, essentially, is

984
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: that enough to keep them out of the conversation That's

985
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: gonna be a big.

986
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: One on November two.

987
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: That being said, I've got Ohio State winning the conference.

988
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: I've got them beating Oregon in a rematch in Indy.

989
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: I've got Oregon as an at large. I've got Penn

990
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: Stated as an at large. Essentially, three one loss teams

991
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: coming out of the Big Ten. Those are four now

992
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: if you factor in Notre Dame, Okay, four teams I've

993
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: got in my updated bracket, so.

994
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: You only have the Big Ten getting three in three teams.

995
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: Three teams from the Big Ten so if Indiana goes

996
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: ten and two, they're out. And no, you think ten

997
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: and two Indiana only losing to what Ohio State and

998
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Michigan are something, they're out. Well, so you're at that

999
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: point you're comparing ten in two Indiana against other ten

1000
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: and two programs across America. Yep. And the thing you

1001
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: probably have to knock Indiana four is scheduling. It's the

1002
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: non conference portion.

1003
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: Or there's a non conference portion of the schedule.

1004
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: And who have you beaten? FIU, Western Illinois, Charlotte, who's

1005
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: decent this year. They've taken care of business. They have

1006
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity. The problem is road wise, it's at Michigan State,

1007
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: which right now I think they're too touchdown. It is

1008
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: the projection right now, the s P plus is a

1009
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: two touchdown favorite. Michigan their favorite to win. But that's

1010
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: going to be very difficult. Still, I'm not I'm not

1011
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: buying that. I'm just not buying that. I mean, Michigan

1012
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: lost to I know, I know, but I just i'm not.

1013
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not I believe that when I see it.

1014
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 2: I love the Indiana story more than I like the team.

1015
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I hope I'm wrong. I do you know.

1016
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: I'm not here to like take a dump on Indiana

1017
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: or anything, but if if I'm being real with you guys,

1018
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 2: this is where I feel, just how I feel about

1019
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: the Big Ten.

1020
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: Do you think Penn State would have a shot against

1021
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: Ohio State at home? Do I think as you as

1022
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: you say James Franklin doesn't win this game. Oh I

1023
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: think they'll have a shot. I do think they'll have

1024
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: a shot.

1025
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a good game, and it'd be

1026
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: a better game than.

1027
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: Was last year.

1028
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: I don't but I don't think they're going to win

1029
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 2: the game.

1030
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: I think Ohio State is still like if Ohio State

1031
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: is usc Ish, if they need to come back and

1032
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: go to overtime. I think Penn State is a full

1033
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: stop No, I agree, although Ohio State. Yeah, let's be real.

1034
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State did lose to five to ten quarterbacks, So

1035
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: who knows?

1036
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: What's everybody that the five to ten quarterback has played

1037
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: this year has lost? Who knows? Honestly, I was more

1038
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: scared of Idaho than Ohio State at the end of

1039
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: that game. Continue, all right, the ACC. The ACC is interesting,

1040
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: all right, it is interesting.

1041
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: I have Clemson now winning the conference, okay, and I

1042
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: have them winning over SMU in the championship game. The

1043
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: champion game, I have Miami making it as an at large.

1044
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: So I am not sure how many people have looked

1045
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: at this to see how it is setting up, but

1046
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 2: there is an awful lot coming down to a game

1047
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 2: on November two. It is a game between PITT and SMU.

1048
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: Because right now PITT is six and oh SMU is

1049
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 2: five and one, still unbeaten in conference. That one loss

1050
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: was against SMU, right or was against BYU?

1051
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: Excuse BYU?

1052
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: Yep, and my acronyms mixed up here. There is a

1053
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: good chance that the winner of that game has an

1054
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: inside track into the ACC title game. Should Miami stumble, Yeah,

1055
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: and I do think Miami is gonna stumble because we

1056
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: have seen some hints of this along the way the

1057
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. Miami has three road games left.

1058
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: Against Louisville this week, it's only about a three point line.

1059
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: They've got Georgia Tech on the road.

1060
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: They've got Syracuse on the road to close out the season.

1061
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they don't dump one of

1062
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: those games. Okay, So I got them losing one of

1063
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: those games, and I think SMU gets to the title.

1064
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Game by virtue of beating Pitt okay, and I think,

1065
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean the logic is sound with Miami getting into

1066
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: because they scheduled and beat Florida on the road, which again,

1067
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: if you're comparing resumes against Indiana, if Indiana is ten

1068
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: and two and Miami's ten and two, I don't know

1069
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: if there's specific connective tissue between Miami and Indiana, but

1070
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: that's what you have to start looking at. Right. Teams

1071
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: that don't make conference championship game, you got to start

1072
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: looking at non conference and I think you have to

1073
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: start looking at magnitude and where those wins occurred.

1074
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: I think that would gets in you to eleven and two.

1075
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm watching the math a little bit here. I

1076
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: think Pitt loses to SMU. I also think they dropped

1077
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: the Clemson maybe someone else once that air is out

1078
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: of the Blueion house.

1079
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: You have SMU in at eleven and two.

1080
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: I have SMU in the ACC title game.

1081
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: Do you have them in the playoff at eleven two?

1082
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't.

1083
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 2: So I've got SMU go into the title game as

1084
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 2: an eleven to one team. I've got them losing to

1085
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: Clemson in that game, probably in resounding fashion. Yeah, and

1086
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: then I've got Miami sneaking back in as an eleven

1087
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: to one team. As an at large, I'd also add

1088
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Syracuse is interesting. I don't think the defense is sustainable.

1089
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: I think Louisville is interesting in theory. But they've still

1090
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: got Miami, Clemson, and Pitt on the schedule. Yeah, they

1091
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: also play BC on the road. They close out the

1092
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: year against Kentucky. They're just like, too much that can

1093
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: go wrong with that schedule.

1094
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm out on your perception that SMU is going

1095
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: to be eleven and one heading into and make the

1096
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: conference championship game, just because traveling to California, which is

1097
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: not terrible obviously from Dallas, but at Stanford and at

1098
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: Duke back to back, okay, so different sides of the

1099
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: country and back to back weeks, and and then the

1100
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: Duke defense. I don't know. I just think Manny Diaz

1101
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be ready. And then Pitt at home, which

1102
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: look Pitt is pretty good, but they're not. They're not

1103
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: a six and oh team at six and oh now,

1104
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: and that's okay, that's way better than being four and two.

1105
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: It's way better than two and four.

1106
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 2: That Pit SMU game is going to have so much

1107
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: riding on it. I think it's gonna be a fun game.

1108
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a lot of points. It's

1109
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: gonna be a big time shootout. I think SMU wins

1110
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: are at home in that game. I think it's set

1111
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: up well for them. I think the schedule is set

1112
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: up fairly well for them, and it feels like they

1113
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: have gotten better. It feels like they've now got some

1114
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: momentum after making their own quarterback change. I don't feel

1115
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: great about that pick. For as much as I like

1116
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: to talk about SMU, I'm not going to act like

1117
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: I feel super confident there. But I'm just looking at

1118
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: that Miami schedule and I'm seeing landmine after landmine after landmine.

1119
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 2: I don't see them making it the full way through.

1120
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: But you don't see lanmdmine after landmine for SMU finishing

1121
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: with Boston College at Virginia and Cal.

1122
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: I just think the teams on Miami schedule and those situations,

1123
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: they they weired me out a little bit.

1124
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: So I mean, also the hist Mario Christopaul's coaching history

1125
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: should play well. There you go.

1126
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do have Miami getting in, but as

1127
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: an at large, I have Clemson winning the conference over SMU.

1128
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, and.

1129
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: Then in the SEC, I think I got four teams in.

1130
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm bringing up clemson schedule. I just I

1131
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: appreciate the confidence, but Clemson has not looked incredible all

1132
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: the time, even though some of the scoreboards look at.

1133
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: Clemson schedule before we move on to the SEC. Look

1134
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: at Clemson schedule and tell me.

1135
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Virginia, they should be able to beat relative even

1136
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: with like the defense looking a little bit more suspect

1137
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: than I expected. Yeah, Louisville at Virginia Tech at PITT

1138
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like they're gonna drop something.

1139
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're not making the conference championship game.

1140
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna drop fir enough, fair enough.

1141
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: Continue, SEC gets four teams in. Okay, unless you're thinking

1142
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: that Vandy's going to take down Texas in addition to

1143
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: Alabama in the same season, Buddy, I assume nothing with Vandy.

1144
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: I think Texas makes it through unbeaten. I think they

1145
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: make it through twelve and OHO, maybe eleven to one.

1146
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they might not make it through the weekend. Unbeaten.

1147
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: They might not make it through the weekend. They've got

1148
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: a big one this weekend against Georgia. Yeah, and they

1149
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: close out the year against Texas, A and M. It's

1150
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: basically a two game schedule the rest of the way

1151
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: as I look at the schedule, Okay, so I think

1152
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: Texas is in. I think they win the conference. I

1153
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: do think Texas beached Georgia this weekend, but I think

1154
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: Georgia finishes out. It's season ten and two, Okay, And

1155
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: at that point, this is why the SEC is the

1156
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: most interesting conference with respect of the playoff. By the way,

1157
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: at that point, you're basically comparing losses because you'd have

1158
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: Georgia with two losses on the road against Bama and Texas.

1159
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: I think, as compared to some other teams that I

1160
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: might talk about as also being part of this conversation,

1161
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: they make it through with that, Okay, they make it

1162
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 2: through with that. I think they give Tennessee a third

1163
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: loss later in the year. I think they fish knocked

1164
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: them out of the conversation. I think the body of work,

1165
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: all things considered, provided they're not getting blown out against Texas,

1166
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: I think they would get the grace and they would

1167
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: be through into the playoffs, so George is my second

1168
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: SEC team that gets in.

1169
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: It's a tough November one too, though, with Ole Miss

1170
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: and Tennessee. That's it's tough.

1171
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: It is tough, but I still have a fair amount

1172
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: of faith in Georgia. I would add the possibility does

1173
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: exist that this weekend's game between Alabama and Tennessee is

1174
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: a playoff elimination game.

1175
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Probably I favor.

1176
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: Bama in the matchup. I think there's a good chance

1177
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: they win this game, they win out. I think they

1178
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: finished eleven at one, So I've got Bama as my

1179
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 2: third team going to play.

1180
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Really think they're going to finish eleven and one. I do.

1181
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: All they're doing is playing down to everybody.

1182
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: I know, but that's true about a bunch of teams

1183
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: in the SEC.

1184
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: It's not as Bama, I know. But what is there

1185
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: like right in this moment to like love about Alabama.

1186
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: They used to have Nick Saban Jalen mil.

1187
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: I know that's about it.

1188
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: At Tennessee, Miszoo, at LSU, Auburn is always going to

1189
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: be weird.

1190
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: That Auburn game could be real weird. Yeah, that Armor

1191
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: game could be super weird. I looked at that one.

1192
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: But as I look across this this calendar, I'm you know,

1193
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: the calendar of games and the schedule.

1194
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: In front of them.

1195
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: I favorite Bama, So Bama was my third team, and

1196
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: then we're looking around, all right, where's the fourth team

1197
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: coming from? All miss alreadys two losses. I don't have

1198
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: faith faith that this team is suddenly going to be

1199
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: the one that beached Georgia. Right, I've got them down

1200
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: for three losses. I think they're out. I think they're

1201
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: already out. I think Miszoo's got another loss in them,

1202
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: probably to Bama, maybe to South Carolina.

1203
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm not as high on Maszoo.

1204
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: I think the game next weekend between A and M

1205
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: and LSU decides who that last team is from the

1206
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: SEC getting into the playoff. Actually, it could Quasi clinch

1207
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: a playoff spot for A and M. If you're of

1208
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: the mind that they can beat South Carolina and Auburn both.

1209
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: On the road, tough. I am of that mind. But yes,

1210
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: I just.

1211
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: I like the way they're playing right now. They got

1212
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: Connor Wigman back. It's a big deal, and it's a

1213
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: nice by timing for A and M.

1214
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: Too.

1215
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: This this is really nice by timing. So bear in

1216
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: mind they lost to Notre Dame to start the season.

1217
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: They've got this LSU game coming up, which I think

1218
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: is a big deal. They close out the year at

1219
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: home against Texas.

1220
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Huge.

1221
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: I think they lose that game, but I think because

1222
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: it would only be their first SEC Conference loss, and

1223
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: because of the four tiebreakers that I went through, they

1224
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: would then play Texas another week in a row for

1225
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: the SEC title game. So in this scenario, it will

1226
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: be a rematch. I figured this whole thing out basically

1227
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: sure the BAMA loss to Vanderbilt would leave them.

1228
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Out of the SEC title game.

1229
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 2: Okay, so in that scenario, I've got Texas winning, I've

1230
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: got A and M finishing ten and three.

1231
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: I've got Bama and Georgia getting in, and.

1232
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: I've got A and M kind of as the twelve

1233
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: seed because I think the committee's gonna want to make

1234
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: a statement about three lost teams getting in, but I've

1235
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: got four teams getting in.

1236
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: Here's what I think you are too positive about. I

1237
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have a cacophony, a murder, whatever animal

1238
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: group name you want to say, of nine and three

1239
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: teams at the end of the season. It's possible. I

1240
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: just think with expansion with higher floors of mid tier

1241
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: teams either because of like having older COVID year players

1242
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: or you know, adding depth through the portal or you know,

1243
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: having Diego Pavia on your team. I just think I

1244
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: think you are assuming a little bit too much of

1245
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: all of these teams with either new coaches or new

1246
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or new schedule types that like, yeah, I think

1247
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: you're listening, You're you're too high on business right now,

1248
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: and teams taking care of it.

1249
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: Those are my four from the SEC and the iver

1250
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: got Iowa stayed out of the Big twelve. I don't

1251
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: think two teams from the Big twelve romking it this year.

1252
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: I also think the Big twelve is going to be

1253
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: the most fun to watch in the back half of November,

1254
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: because that's when we'll figure out who's making this title game.

1255
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 2: Right now, there's a lot of talk about Iowa State

1256
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: and BYU because they're both unbeaten. Of course, they both

1257
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: seem to be getting better. Texas Tech, I would also add,

1258
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: is still unbeaten in conference in conference in conference, yeah,

1259
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: I think one conference loss is good enough to get

1260
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 2: somebody in the title game.

1261
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: Right now.

1262
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: K State Cincinnati, Colorado, West, Virginia, ASU, A bunch of

1263
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: teams have one loss, so they're still in it. Technically speaking,

1264
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: Utah a team that I expected to be there already

1265
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: two conference losses. We heard the deal about cam Rising.

1266
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: I think they're pretty much going out here. They would

1267
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: need to maybe be a spoiler in this conversation, as

1268
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: they have both BYU and Iowa State at home in November,

1269
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're a contender at this point.

1270
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: K State could win out case wins out. This is

1271
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: a team that could potentially get to that title game,

1272
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: but I don't see them buttoned up enough on offense

1273
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: to get there.

1274
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,959
Speaker 1: I still think it's Iowa State.

1275
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: I still think it's Iowa State neutral field. They'd be

1276
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: about a three and a half point favorite over BYU

1277
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: per the numbers I saw, and I trust them more

1278
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: on offense and on defense. I just think they're a

1279
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: more complete team. It is getting harder to doubt BYU.

1280
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,479
Speaker 2: It feels like they are also improving. They're plus seven

1281
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: and turnover margin, They're intercepting passes like crazy. But Iowa

1282
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: State is sort of my sort of my vibe right now.

1283
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: I just think I think You're right in that November

1284
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: is going to present a number of everybody eating each

1285
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: other in the Big twelve moments, And I just think

1286
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: we're going to get to like the ninth tiebreaker in

1287
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. It's going to come down to a

1288
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: spelling bee between BYU and Kansas State.

1289
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: Hire Possible and them IG five teams. Boise and I

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Speaker 2: would love nothing more than for Army or Navy to

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Speaker 2: get in.

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Speaker 1: I think that be fun.

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Speaker 2: But I think Boys is gonna win out. I think

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Speaker 2: the close loss to Oregon looks better every week. Sure,

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Speaker 2: I don't see the committee leaving them out, especially if

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Speaker 2: it's a deal where Ashton gent is going to break

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Speaker 2: Barry Sanders nineteen eighty eight rushing record. He's going to

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Speaker 2: be a Heisman finalist. They're not going to leave him out,

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I mean there are opportunities for teams elsewhere to go undefeated.

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Speaker 1: I just think Boys gets thirteen to Oh. I think

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Speaker 1: Boys gets in. Okay, if Boise wins out there in

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Speaker 1: and they're a name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's how this sets up, then, Okay, walk

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Speaker 2: me through it. Number nine Georgia on the road at

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame in round one with the winner playing Texas Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number twelve Texas A and M on the road at

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Speaker 2: your Oregon Ducks with the winner playing Iowa State. Okay,

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Speaker 2: as I flash up this bracket on our video. Number ten,

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Speaker 2: Miami on the road at Alabama. Crazy matchup by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Winter playing Ohio State. And then I've got Boise on

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Speaker 2: the road at Penn State with the Winter playing Clemson.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making picks further than this, but to the

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Speaker 2: question that we got on for ballers dot Com from Daniel,

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Speaker 2: this is the way that I think the bracket shakes out.

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Speaker 1: First round games would be Northern Indiana, Eugene, Oregon State College, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Three of the four would be cold weather it first

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Speaker 1: rounds in your bracket. Okay, that's Recember twentieth ish. That's

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Speaker 1: my pick. That's not bad. This would make for an

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Speaker 1: entertaining group of games.

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Speaker 2: It would be entertaining if nothing more. I did the

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Speaker 2: best I could to try and go through tiebreaker scenarios

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Speaker 2: or whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, this actually makes me feel. This

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Speaker 1: is my hipster take. You ready for my hipster take?

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Speaker 1: It actually makes me feel like the second tier of

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Speaker 1: all of these conferences is secretly more entertaining than the

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Speaker 1: top totally because there's so much room for flawed quality,

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Speaker 1: which hopefully that's what people feel about this show, flawed quality,

1331
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Speaker 1: wild card spoilers, it's great.

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Speaker 2: And also that top tier is so poorly defined in

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Speaker 2: most conferences. Yeah, it really is poorly defined. And that's

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Speaker 2: why I say the Big ten is maybe the least

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Speaker 2: interesting of all these because I feel like I know

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Speaker 2: who the three teams are right now, right, you could

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Speaker 2: change upsets happen all that, But outside of that, truly

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Speaker 2: Big twelve acc kind of all over the place. SEC

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Speaker 2: We generally think Texas is the best team, but there

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Speaker 2: are obviously going to be a number of teams. Georgia

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: can knock them off this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Can I give you a homework assignment? It's not due

1343
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Speaker 1: until next week's Tuesday show. I want you to find

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Speaker 1: the like machete teams. I want you to find the

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: teams who play the most teams that are in the

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01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: thick of it, like you know, at the top of

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01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: my head is like, who are the machete team? Like well,

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Speaker 1: kind of like Virginia, Arizona State, Vanderbilt, and Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Virginia's definitely won. I mean I mentioned Utah. Utah

1350
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: has got. Utah has got the opportunity to play spoiler

1351
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: here with BUYU and Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: Theater, like who's hacking through the thickets? Yeah, so right in. Yeah,

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: go and watch the video if you have yet to

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Speaker 1: do so.

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Speaker 2: I've got the bracket up there, but I did my

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Speaker 2: best to talk through it, yes, real quick before we

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Speaker 2: let the fine people go, Dan, let's take a look

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: at some of the weekday games. We have any thoughts

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Speaker 2: on those early bird special So there are a couple

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Speaker 2: games here that I that I pulled out. Boston College

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: at Virginia Tech on Thursday night, Virginia Tech currently favored

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01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: by seven. Oregon your Oregon Ducks minus about four touchdowns

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Speaker 2: on the road at Purdue on Friday night at eight

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern.

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Speaker 1: I thought about going, but it's going to be too

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: much of a stretch and I'm too old.

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Speaker 2: Friday night, ten fifteen is the game I'm most interested in.

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Speaker 2: That's Oklahoma State coming off of on the road at BYU.

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Speaker 2: BYU favored by nine points. We also have some other

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Speaker 2: Friday games. Got FSU at Duke Duke favored by three

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Speaker 2: got Fresno at Nevada. Nevada is a yeah, the chokehold.

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Speaker 2: They're a three point home dog, which could be interesting

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Speaker 2: for Fresno. What are your thoughts in that Oklahoma State

1374
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Speaker 2: BYU game and the Oregon Perdue game?

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, my thought is that you saying

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Speaker 1: you're interested in that, I'm going to put you at

1377
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: one point two quarters worth before you pass out and

1378
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: watch the rest of it the balance of that game.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning, I gave sort of my thoughts on Perdue

1380
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: organ that Situationally, it's a nice spot to be like

1381
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: a screw it team as Purdue is and doesn't have

1382
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: a defense. I think Oregon should have win that game.

1383
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 1: Not a spoil, but like kind of like pre scared

1384
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: about Perdue Oregon and I don't know how to explain

1385
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: it beyond Purdue just does not care and it, you know,

1386
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: might be Ryan Walter's final season wes Lafayette and I

1387
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: don't know, let down and go to West Lafayette seems

1388
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: dicey to me. At Florida State, Duke, I hope for

1389
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: for whatever's sake that brock Glenn is fun and entertaining

1390
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: against Florida State fans something to be hopeful about for

1391
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: the future. What are you saying to Ada Fresno, Nevada Fresno. Yeah,

1392
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: these are all fun. These are all like super watchable

1393
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: entertaining matchups. The BYU game to be is interesting.

1394
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Speaker 2: I don't really know the state of the quarterback situation

1395
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State, Okay. At time of recording, Alan Bowman

1396
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 2: has been benched twice. It seemed as if Garrett Wrangell

1397
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: looked better in his most recent action. It would not

1398
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: surprise me if he is the dude. But there's just

1399
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 2: been a lot of issues with this Oklahoma State team

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Speaker 2: that we didn't really foresee. Again, this is a team

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: that had a ton of returning production, a schedule that's

1402
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: seemingly set up well. They have had trouble running the football.

1403
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: Alan Bowman has not been good enough to shoulder the

1404
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: load on his own. They've had basic issues with like

1405
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: tackling Dan. I read our friend Scott right at the

1406
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma just to see what he was saying. He talks

1407
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 2: a lot about just tackling has been bad with this

1408
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State team. So again, I'm I have skepticism with BYU.

1409
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 2: But BYU's been solid, winning as a skill, tie, they've

1410
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: been solid and just because they don't jump off the

1411
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 2: page at you with any kind of fantastical statistical prowess,

1412
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: winning is a skill and I feel like they've gotten

1413
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: better through the air. There's still not a very good

1414
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: running team, but Jake Retzlith has been good as a

1415
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: passer of the last couple of weeks running, I'm almost

1416
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: inclined to lay the points. I don't think I'm going to.

1417
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,799
Speaker 2: I think I'm still going to go Oklahoma State because

1418
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: I have it in the back of my head what

1419
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: happened to case Stay a year ago when they played

1420
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma State coming off of bye and it seemed

1421
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: as if they were able to take advantage Oklahoma State

1422
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 2: was of that bye week and make some changes and

1423
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: from that point forward it was off.

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: To the races.

1425
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: So I'm going to take the but I think BYU wins.

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Speaker 1: Okay fair enough. And you know how they say quarterbacks

1427
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: who are like these folk hero types. So we'll never

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01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: pay for a drink in this town again. Yeah, Alan

1429
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: Bowman will pay full price for drinks in still Water.

1430
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: They'll be happy to see him. Hey man, thanks for

1431
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: all the efforts of Oklahoma State that's actually gonna be

1432
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: a twelve dollars cocktail. He will pay for drinks, all right.

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Speaker 2: So for the week ahead, we've got Big ten Breakfast

1434
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: coming up on Friday morning. We post every Friday morning

1435
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: at nine am out on our YouTube channel. We posted

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01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of places you'll see Big ten Breakfast if

1437
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: that's something you're into. We've got the Big Old Week

1438
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Speaker 2: eight recap episode Saturday Night Live at midnight.

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Speaker 1: And before all that.

1440
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: We've got our week eate preview episode, which drops to

1441
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: the feed on Thursday. We've got a very interesting week

1442
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: of games in front of US Nebraska, Indiana, Miami, Louisville

1443
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: in the early block. We've got Alabama, Tennessee and Notre Dame,

1444
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech in the afternoon block, and we've got LSU Arkansas.

1445
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: As we mentioned before, we've got Georgia, Texas in the

1446
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: evening block. There are a bunch of other big games.

1447
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: It will be difficult for you and I to just

1448
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 2: narrow it down to a select few, but we are

1449
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: going to get working on that pretty much the second

1450
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: we hit stop here.

1451
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Speaker 1: And I'm excited for you to make a John Tannuda

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Speaker 1: video No. With Notre Dame Georgia Tech coming up. That's

1453
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Speaker 1: my that's on my list, that's on my list. Yeah. Yeah,

1454
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: we've got a deep cut coming on the not I

1455
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: remind you we have a call about like what's what

1456
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: is what is the history? What is there something interesting

1457
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: talking point wise with some of these matchups, and you

1458
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: had fully blocked out the two thousand and seven I

1459
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: think it was two thousand and seven six seven Georgia

1460
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: Tech Notre Dame situation. I had to remind you of it. Yeah,

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01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: I blacked out.

1462
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I memory hold that one.

1463
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, suppressed traumatic memories. Just brutal, just brutal. Bunch of

1464
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Speaker 1: games to discuss here.

1465
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Speaker 2: Encourage everybody to go on out to verbolers dot com

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Speaker 2: to sign up to support what we're doing, but also

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Speaker 2: get in on the action.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to give too much away.

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Speaker 2: We are giving away a gigantic prize this week as

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Speaker 2: part of the Pickham game.

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Speaker 1: Oh you gotta join then.

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Speaker 2: Now this is like once a month we save up

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Speaker 2: enough money where we can give out a big time prize.

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Speaker 2: And this is going to be this is going to

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Speaker 2: be a choose your own adventure prize of sorts. I

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Speaker 2: will detail that on Thursday. But get into Alverballers dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's how you can join play run the board. So

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Speaker 2: I got same, Dan Rubisy, keep nursing that voice. We

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Speaker 2: need him back to full strap the tea net. Look

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Speaker 2: at this, it's in a solid verbal mug. I've got

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Speaker 2: coffee and a newer solid verbal mug shop dot solidverbal

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Speaker 1: I just ordered a new case of Throat Comfort Tea.

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Speaker 1: So I'm juice and Tie. I'm doing everything I can.

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Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 2: for myself, Tie Hillebrand. Thanks for downloading, for listening, for

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Speaker 2: playing along at home.

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Speaker 1: Right in solid verbal at gmail dot com. Let us

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Speaker 1: know where we're right, where we're wrong.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you in the meantime, As always,

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Speaker 2: stays solved.

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Speaker 1: Peace, m