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Speaker 1: Day and Swaggy Feet anything. Gentlemen. It's so good to
Speaker 1: hav him here. I know his name Swaggy, So Swaggy
Speaker 1: is swag Where'd you get Swaggy? Because you always got
Speaker 1: you know, you've got different fabrics, different guy you know
Speaker 1: me and got talking like that when I was coming
Speaker 1: into this world where y'all you know, where y'all live,
Speaker 1: gods that gonna make you specifically for you know, the
Speaker 1: style purposes of the world. So that's why gifts. I'm
Speaker 1: a gift for y'all. Okay, yeah, definitely for me, but
Speaker 1: I accept what you're gonna turn it down. I'm doing
Speaker 1: existed style. You know, here's it, here's it. Here's the
Speaker 1: real question. Though, before you had a couple of dollars
Speaker 1: where you Swaggy that's a whole another. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, always have something, you know, we can find someone,
Speaker 1: we can pull up on your original house, go through
Speaker 1: the original photos. Who is this? You could be different
Speaker 1: styles back then, white teams that hadn't caught that much.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta ask my shoes back then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you got you were swaggy as a kid. Yeah
Speaker 1: did they call you swaggy? Are you just playing with
Speaker 1: us right now? They didn't call me sway, But when
Speaker 1: they started calling you swacky, did you start calling yourself?
Speaker 1: I started calling myself okay, just because you know, as
Speaker 1: a kid, you know my mom, I didn't like the
Speaker 1: way my mom dressed me, so she said she would
Speaker 1: tell you this. You know, one day she dressed me
Speaker 1: in like a cracking down outfit and kinder garten people
Speaker 1: cracking jokes at me, and I never let her pick
Speaker 1: my outh and sit. So you know, that's that's where
Speaker 1: this came from. And you've been in your back since five? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. So what is your rhythm? Rhythm? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is your rhythm? What is your you know, you
Speaker 1: know the RB Money podcast throwing Harby metaphors when you
Speaker 1: when you're looking at something like when you either because
Speaker 1: you have your own that you mad or shout it,
Speaker 1: or if you're going through a rack of something. What
Speaker 1: are you looking for? Are you looking at something that's
Speaker 1: completely different or completely off the wall? Are you looking
Speaker 1: for a certain texture that just in Japan. It depends
Speaker 1: on my mood, you know. Some days I feel calm,
Speaker 1: something like you're giving me a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of goldie, right, Yeah, it depends on the mood. You know.
Speaker 1: You know he knows when he in the president of
Speaker 1: players I'm about you know, when he in the pressent
Speaker 1: he tipped to the side of baby. You know it
Speaker 1: makes me feel good. It makes me feel good, Baby,
Speaker 1: I will because yeah, because I do. I do sometimes
Speaker 1: when you feel like, you know, I'm killing with my
Speaker 1: chest out, that's why you threw that over. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't mind having a nip slip for the latest.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You look cute. You're a
Speaker 1: slight preview your Faemily my man. But I think it's
Speaker 1: like because I've seen a batter time and nothing like
Speaker 1: that though something don't talk away. I'm trying to get away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean here could always say the same ship that's perfect,
Speaker 1: everything the same, It's the same, curl. I don't like
Speaker 1: you said earlier, straight from the wound. He got that
Speaker 1: from the womb, just an end. But I gotta deal
Speaker 1: there wound. Gotta deal there wound. So so when did
Speaker 1: when did you know that you had a gift too?
Speaker 1: Who when did you know? Like, I know you was
Speaker 1: outside at the park doing your things, practicing in the rain,
Speaker 1: all of those moments. But when did you know? Oh? Probably,
Speaker 1: I don't know. When I was younger, I know I
Speaker 1: noticed I could do like if I see something, I
Speaker 1: would go out there and do it. You know, if
Speaker 1: I see something, I'll go out there and try and
Speaker 1: it will come easy for me. But all my brothers played,
Speaker 1: So I was at the park twenty seven, so my
Speaker 1: brother next to me end up going overseas. Brother before
Speaker 1: him went up going overseas. So I was always around basketball.
Speaker 1: So could you could you beat your brother? When did you?
Speaker 1: When was the first time you beat your brother? When
Speaker 1: like like a real accompany this? No, I know your brother?
Speaker 1: Yeah it took me. Yeah, Well I didn't really beat him.
Speaker 1: I just knew I could beat him, so I let
Speaker 1: him beat me, and I just never played him like that.
Speaker 1: It can't you know. I wanted him to feel that,
Speaker 1: you know, keep that, you know, that feeling big brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big brother feeling. It was easy because I was like,
Speaker 1: this is could I let him? I mean Bob had
Speaker 1: a fight, Yeah, my brother four fight something different. I
Speaker 1: figured like when when he figured out, not even when
Speaker 1: I figured out when he figured out, like, oh, sneaker
Speaker 1: get me somehow I got slammed then not fired. Only
Speaker 1: mean this is like, yeah, he never tested me since
Speaker 1: the like he knew it, and I was like we
Speaker 1: both knew it was like it was I was here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like we had players like cetera, Bottles will
Speaker 1: come to our parks, and one day I dunked on
Speaker 1: in front of everybody. They're sideboy, you know, a little
Speaker 1: bar right there as a teenager though as a teenager
Speaker 1: in high school. Yeah, he in the league at that
Speaker 1: time or he was like fresh out of the league
Speaker 1: on the type of thing. Fresh shout, Yeah, fresh shout.
Speaker 1: That's something to go on and talk about. So you
Speaker 1: grew up a right, okay, because a lot of people
Speaker 1: think like the valley because the high school in the valley,
Speaker 1: so kind of give us the story of that. Um well,
Speaker 1: going to raised in West of A. I went to
Speaker 1: Hamilton High all the way to high school kicked out
Speaker 1: my freshman YEARY transferred to Dorsey. I mean I got
Speaker 1: kicked out and went to Dorsey because and I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to Dorsey. That was in the jungle. That just
Speaker 1: wasn't for me, you know. So I didn't go there
Speaker 1: at all. Moms found out one day she went up
Speaker 1: there looking for me. They said, he ain't checked into
Speaker 1: the school since at all. Okay, good, So moms didn't
Speaker 1: really understand the politics. No she didn't. She didn't. She did,
Speaker 1: because that's the whole thing that a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't understand about l A and itself. Like, you got
Speaker 1: to be cautious of the school, you go to, the
Speaker 1: blocks you walking down. They want to know where your
Speaker 1: grandmama stay. Y'all the kings of that were your grandmama stay.
Speaker 1: Like when when Kidrick said that on that album, I
Speaker 1: was like, I've heard that before. I ain't from here.
Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't I'm staying the baby, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So, yeah, you all the kings
Speaker 1: of that. My first day there, I got, I went
Speaker 1: my first day banged on me. They're like they try
Speaker 1: to trick me, Like I don't know. They're like what's
Speaker 1: up cool and all that. No, it's a whole blood school. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then they finally asked me around front. I just they
Speaker 1: knew a neighborhood I stayed in and everything grew up
Speaker 1: in West So that's a majority of Criptini. It wasn't safe.
Speaker 1: Dose she didn't, but she kind of could. Well. She
Speaker 1: was like I'm saying, my ba. She sent me to
Speaker 1: school because she thought I was gonna play basketball and
Speaker 1: they had a good basketball program. But I wasn't like
Speaker 1: known at the time like that. So you were so
Speaker 1: in l A. You're not a known basketball player yet. No,
Speaker 1: just in my neighborhood was good. But have you grown
Speaker 1: yet or did you get Are you one of them?
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and go from six to speak probably six
Speaker 1: one and my freshman year. But I was just I
Speaker 1: didn't like school really so and then one day Adrian,
Speaker 1: Adrian fat boy, he was driven to the basketball and
Speaker 1: he said at the bus stop and a traveling team,
Speaker 1: I mean traveling coach pull them over and said, do
Speaker 1: you know any players put my traveling to crazy? All right,
Speaker 1: shout out my boy. I go by another name of it.
Speaker 1: But I can't say yeah. I can't say drake me too,
Speaker 1: that's my dog. So they pull up all Adrian, yeah accellently,
Speaker 1: don't know any Hoopers and he said yeah. So he
Speaker 1: took me to these triouts and then I killed that
Speaker 1: and then they introduced me to the coach at Cleveland
Speaker 1: Hard and then it's it's the rap after that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And when you come to the valley, what they busting
Speaker 1: you every day? They busted me, but it was like
Speaker 1: a whole different atmosphere. I think I needed to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was more hands on. They made sure I was
Speaker 1: in class and everything so and I could mess up,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. So they were just busting you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you the bus by yourself. So it wasn't like ice
Speaker 1: Cube and the w a movie where it was like
Speaker 1: other kids and they brought up it's just swagging. That's
Speaker 1: all I see right now, And that ain't right. That's
Speaker 1: just what this by your what sophomore year? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is going into my junior year. So I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you a funny story, right. I come to l A
Speaker 1: fresh out of high school. Um hiever, you want to say,
Speaker 1: out of high school. But I wasn't there no more, right,
Speaker 1: So I bowed l a whatever, relaxed. So I'm in
Speaker 1: l A and I'm in the Valley. First place. I
Speaker 1: come at the Valley because a lot of music different,
Speaker 1: you know, producers, all of Michael Jackonson and singing due yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you know what I mean. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: So man, So when I get here, you know, I
Speaker 1: had hoop back home and I still was active. I'm
Speaker 1: still hoping. And I remember maybe years, year two after
Speaker 1: being here, you know, I had found, you know, different
Speaker 1: littlehigh school games to go to, like just standing in
Speaker 1: the mix, going by Valley College, all a little shit,
Speaker 1: just hoping. And I'm here one day, Bro, I think
Speaker 1: of my Vale bull wreck and niggas is like, bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta see this young nigga. I'm like, who, I've
Speaker 1: saw mostly all the young all the young cats coming
Speaker 1: through that that can who By that time, like I said,
Speaker 1: I had seen Gilbert already, I've seen something like who
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And like, man, it's a young
Speaker 1: nigga with a funked up atro go to Cleveland High?
Speaker 1: Like Cleveland High? Where is that? I think I have
Speaker 1: been here for however long at that point, but I've
Speaker 1: never heard of that school. I never heard that definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't know basketball at bit man. So my brother like,
Speaker 1: I think my brother had maybe already saw a game
Speaker 1: two of you somewhere, but he was like, we gotta
Speaker 1: go early. I get to the gym. I think you
Speaker 1: can't park. When I say this nigger in his bad hair,
Speaker 1: dude Afro was so cold and athletic. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: because now obviously people know you as you shoot the
Speaker 1: three and who shot the three and turned around and
Speaker 1: then go in. But you shot that whole with a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of confidence. Now you forever me right right,
Speaker 1: But people know you as a sharp shooter. They don't
Speaker 1: know the young nick young with the dumb bounce. I
Speaker 1: was like this young nigger and I remember I was like,
Speaker 1: here pro, same thing I said when I saw Gil.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's all I heard. I was like,
Speaker 1: they pro like he's a pro. And it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this game kind of it's kind of, it ain't really
Speaker 1: it's wrong. Everything I'm saying, you already know you probably hurt.
Speaker 1: Everybody was saying all the same show. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that nigga pro put on a full shoulder and I
Speaker 1: mean that was crazy though, And that was the first
Speaker 1: time I saw you play the way. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you know you play. Yeah, we tag with the football player,
Speaker 1: break it down. Even waiting with this, waiting for an
Speaker 1: athlete to come on this show, talk is talking ship.
Speaker 1: You got a bag, you know, starting fullback, rol taking tailback, quarterback, kicker,
Speaker 1: kicker yeah, wait, wait wait, I gotta put to So
Speaker 1: I was scoring a touchdown and kicked extra point. That's
Speaker 1: just the type of shot out and then getting no looks. Damn.
Speaker 1: I got some college okay, music scholarship instead and the
Speaker 1: music coll ship too. All right, morning stacks. You the
Speaker 1: only thing that's called on what you do? Man? I
Speaker 1: thought you just started singing around the neighborhood. You know,
Speaker 1: I got about singing change. It came out the wound
Speaker 1: out the wound at at a Christian Union, Missionary Baptist church,
Speaker 1: something you might not not never know nothing about. By
Speaker 1: the first time that a little bit, you know, my
Speaker 1: community that was busy throwing up track did at the
Speaker 1: black my past. It sounded like a gang something you're
Speaker 1: doing it. But no, I thought I could play basketball
Speaker 1: because I was athletic. So I had my first dunk
Speaker 1: in the game and that's eighth grade. Damn. So I
Speaker 1: was always buff, was always know I was. Actually I
Speaker 1: grew longest long as I'm supposed to be six four.
Speaker 1: Where you stopped at that's a sore spot for I
Speaker 1: don't know where you stopping at five level. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's what the people that did my assurance say. The
Speaker 1: people that did my assurance, it's not it's like five
Speaker 1: ten and some change, but five eleven feels great. When
Speaker 1: you said it, it felt like it was there. It
Speaker 1: meant the world to me. So I always stay there.
Speaker 1: It was the old way they used to do hiding
Speaker 1: the NBA. Be like three quarters Dante Joe, I mean
Speaker 1: all the time, ain't no six six Dante, don't take
Speaker 1: a six sex he's six six because six seven, So
Speaker 1: like U six seven, six six and last six six
Speaker 1: and three quarters. So I rounded off to the I stopped.
Speaker 1: I stopped growing early. Um I didn't know why earlier,
Speaker 1: but that's neither here nor there. But um so I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna ready be somebody, and then I
Speaker 1: stopped growing. I can still flying was way bigger than me.
Speaker 1: So I was like, football is gonna be my thing.
Speaker 1: That's my first love and then I took my music scholarship.
Speaker 1: They wanted me to turn the English and math homework out.
Speaker 1: Yeah you want to know english and math for what?
Speaker 1: But dropped out left college? Hey yeah, I was there
Speaker 1: for two months. I was like, y'all want one. It
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not doing this just but nobody. He
Speaker 1: didn't make you didn't make a grading period at all.
Speaker 1: That was dope, do man. I went to I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just write songs and figure it out. Hopefully
Speaker 1: I figured it out. I mean when he went he
Speaker 1: went to the USC, so we know he didn't do
Speaker 1: no work. He was tough boy. Yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was tough. Tough? Was it? What was what was tough
Speaker 1: about it? A little insight? Yeah, I would. I was like,
Speaker 1: you have to do an unca. It was just a
Speaker 1: lot of work, man, Yeah, a lot of work. That
Speaker 1: call I called it to when they walked by. I
Speaker 1: called it work when they talked to it. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of working, hey man. It was man, man, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of work there. All right. I want so
Speaker 1: when you making first album again? I remember in high
Speaker 1: school was banking jo. I used to love one song
Speaker 1: play for the girl caking ice cream. I used to
Speaker 1: play cake and ice cream? Yeah, high school. It's crazy
Speaker 1: you played Cake and ice two two is when that
Speaker 1: album came out. Cake and ice Cream. That's my I'm
Speaker 1: singing on this song as my ex wife, her sister,
Speaker 1: and the other girl that was in their group. So
Speaker 1: they're really caking ice game and I'm singing about a threesome. Man. Man,
Speaker 1: when you say it like that right now, don't sound right.
Speaker 1: When we were just making the song, we just being creative, y'all,
Speaker 1: just having good time, just having a good time, so
Speaker 1: this it would be right. So college, how was that experience?
Speaker 1: That's a big change a little bit talking about the
Speaker 1: college on No, we were just talking about kicking ice cream.
Speaker 1: He was in high school. Now let's go college. You
Speaker 1: when you said it was hard work at that was
Speaker 1: like ancondemn probation ship. No, not you. I was trying
Speaker 1: to leave. When did you declare my junior year? Are
Speaker 1: you stay three years? I was trying to stay too.
Speaker 1: I tried to leave my second year, but there I said.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't looking good for me. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be undrafted. Yeah, I probably it wasn't a second round.
Speaker 1: I wondered, like I was scared. Letn't know all this workout,
Speaker 1: build up shot golden, just go fall to the second
Speaker 1: round and try hard. But they said I could be
Speaker 1: like a for sure first round pick next year. Come
Speaker 1: back then it wasn't like the winning goals, and uh,
Speaker 1: well we did. That's when Katie started the whole little
Speaker 1: one and one and the little things with Katie. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: and what do you do? I went sixteen? Did anybody
Speaker 1: promise you before that? Man? Because how does that tell
Speaker 1: us that process, how that ship goes, because opposed to
Speaker 1: go like when they go off your record here yea
Speaker 1: most of the time if they called back, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was supposed to go like twelve to the Clippers, okay,
Speaker 1: And then I was supposed to go. They said if
Speaker 1: I didn't go twill, they guaranteed me thirteen. But two
Speaker 1: people failed that they had twelve and thirteen. They had
Speaker 1: twelve in New Orleans had thirteen, okay, but two people
Speaker 1: failed that they didn't think was gonna fall that far, okay,
Speaker 1: and they picked picked them. I was sitting there mad
Speaker 1: because I didn't. I wanted to be in l A forever,
Speaker 1: you know, the first time about to leave l A,
Speaker 1: go to some city, end up going to d C
Speaker 1: with Gil and you know how that works out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was from I was raised there d C. It's
Speaker 1: all right DC, alright, Like I think more people that
Speaker 1: ain't from there, we like that's from they be like, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's tough, yeah, V. So it's still crazy. It
Speaker 1: was still crazy out there, like looking at d C,
Speaker 1: like when you came to d C, Like what they
Speaker 1: did to d C is completely it's something else. But
Speaker 1: when we was raised, they were just parts of d C.
Speaker 1: You didn't go to I didn't want to drive. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Wh y'all came to d C
Speaker 1: like they had built it up, got the m C
Speaker 1: I and all the whole little thing, and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that now it's like it's like a
Speaker 1: real thing to be in d C hang out. So
Speaker 1: now when I go to d C, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is really cool, but it's it really trips me out
Speaker 1: to see to see white people walking their dogs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still have those moments, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like at that term that completely all trapped. Don't they
Speaker 1: jogging when they're dog? Francis for sure. For us, it's
Speaker 1: more so one of those things where it's hidden because
Speaker 1: it's a tourist city. Right, So you don't know about
Speaker 1: Hunter's Point, you don't know about Sunny There, you don't
Speaker 1: know about these areas hill More, you don't know about it.
Speaker 1: They like what they call Western addition is what we
Speaker 1: call film on my neighborhood. You know, slam the whole
Speaker 1: You know that that whole thing that was known for
Speaker 1: the you know PIVN and Owin and the street ship,
Speaker 1: but you would never know that a Strode definitely, that
Speaker 1: still strong, still strong still. But for us, they've kept
Speaker 1: it as low as possible that you just don't know
Speaker 1: what's there, you know what I mean, Because it's like, man,
Speaker 1: this city is so small. Yeah, we can't say what
Speaker 1: you are these niggas here, what these niggas on? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but you go there and
Speaker 1: gilds your That's so, did y'all know each other from
Speaker 1: the valley or y'all didn't know each other at all?
Speaker 1: Because I know you said you had heard of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard of him, but because I think it Gil
Speaker 1: was a legendar here. Yeah, I remember playing against his school,
Speaker 1: and I just felt like I had to kill his
Speaker 1: school because everybody like even it's like Gil with here
Speaker 1: and this is Grant. You couldn't do what Gil dude us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a week that I had like party like
Speaker 1: forty five or something. There's nothing, there's nothing. But they
Speaker 1: didn't have him. They wasn't like it wasn't getting nobody
Speaker 1: like Gil there. So it don't matter. We won part
Speaker 1: like forty five forty five. That's how we said. Um
Speaker 1: so so you get to d C. You don't really
Speaker 1: know each other like that. But he was the first
Speaker 1: one to call me and welcome me in. And he
Speaker 1: had like two cribs out there, so he let me
Speaker 1: stay in one of them, two cribs literally up the
Speaker 1: street from each other, because he said that's what was
Speaker 1: was this girl at the time. Man, I guess she
Speaker 1: had moved in with him or something. Okay, I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was staying in a big gass house
Speaker 1: free you know whatever. Poor m p. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: let me, let me, let's get this because because uh
Speaker 1: because girl, lets you stand up free matching. Because it
Speaker 1: came with a lot of craziness. If I would have
Speaker 1: known nuck check, cheers age that, cheers and gild you
Speaker 1: stay in a free match, no matter what came A
Speaker 1: get there, so you'll let you stay in the freematching.
Speaker 1: But he still got kids to yoh yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: And we know the type of arenas is. So how
Speaker 1: was that your your rookie years? I ain't allowed my
Speaker 1: first time going out, Gil, and it took me out.
Speaker 1: Bill took me out. He I guess he knew the
Speaker 1: chick or whatever. I guess it was like he set
Speaker 1: the chick up to trying to talk to me and
Speaker 1: something like that. He tells his story to everybody, won't
Speaker 1: let nobody let this story down. So I get there
Speaker 1: my first night in d C on club and I'll see,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this chick on me. I didn't know
Speaker 1: Gill already set it up, you know, damn sometime to
Speaker 1: take her home and ship right right, yeah, like I'm young,
Speaker 1: I'm doing some bullshit, allows down. They're cuffed in the club, strang.
Speaker 1: You know the song was out to I don't know
Speaker 1: that Bush. I was doing too much. So um yeah,
Speaker 1: so Gil, you know if you get home and everything
Speaker 1: after the club, girl, like man, you're doing too much
Speaker 1: with this. You're doing too much menire kissing the ship
Speaker 1: on the club. You're making this all looks bad talking
Speaker 1: about I'm trying to take something home. They don't do
Speaker 1: it like that. Man. You supposed to be You're pupposed
Speaker 1: to do that. Everybody looking at ship show you how
Speaker 1: you do it? End up taking a chick from me
Speaker 1: and ship. I told this how you do it the
Speaker 1: next time? Man, So I'm like, man, I put all
Speaker 1: this working. Man, You're working all all night, like I
Speaker 1: didn't really let nobody else talk and talk to nobody
Speaker 1: else because I was, you know, trying to. That was like,
Speaker 1: I just had another night, Give yourse up? Did you
Speaker 1: play your card right? But took her to my crea
Speaker 1: that cooking eggs and the help now getting the house.
Speaker 1: She in the househo to do with Gil and everything?
Speaker 1: Same girl, same girl and yo, yeah really he had
Speaker 1: the keys and took her there. I understand where you
Speaker 1: were though. That's me bro. That was your first out
Speaker 1: of highst college, even when I was old. But from that,
Speaker 1: everybody got to go through that. No, it just didn't.
Speaker 1: It depends on what your It depends on what your
Speaker 1: thing is like. If your lover then y'all have a
Speaker 1: good time. That's what you are. I just didn't know.
Speaker 1: You just didn't know. Okay, Well, I figured out early
Speaker 1: that I'm a lover. I'm a cuddler. I like because
Speaker 1: I'm a forgiver, not an't jump though jump nigga one
Speaker 1: day told me the nigga one they told me my
Speaker 1: motto is it's my turn now? I said, right, what
Speaker 1: don't a lot of friends like that. I don't care
Speaker 1: what happened, I don't care care about nothing. They get
Speaker 1: more excited too when like somebody like me talk to me.
Speaker 1: Nothing bothers me. Good, unbothered with a person, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Everybody that's a good model, though, you can't get to
Speaker 1: that space. It's a great space to be. That's a
Speaker 1: tough place if we really peeled back the layers. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that a lot of our own
Speaker 1: layers like tricky. What are we asking them to except
Speaker 1: if we really pulled back the layers. I know, but
Speaker 1: you'll begin like, have you ever been in the same
Speaker 1: room with Yeah that don't like bother you? With a
Speaker 1: few of them, it's more than one. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: to to it's more than two it's like yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, I had that. Anybody ever said yeah
Speaker 1: I had that too, don't know. I just walked through
Speaker 1: and give him anob like you know you've been there
Speaker 1: there Now, that's that's that's a tough situation. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not. Oh no, because when you because because when
Speaker 1: you when you walk in with the thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you gotta act proud, but I am though,
Speaker 1: because it's not even acting because they looking now, they're like, damn,
Speaker 1: I might need to revisit that. I'm like, you can't
Speaker 1: out here, you can't, you can't. Ain't no more bookies. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't about this. Yeah. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good model. It's a stress free model because what happens
Speaker 1: is you put yourself in the position to really be
Speaker 1: let down because a person with a real amount of
Speaker 1: bodies ain't gonna tell you everything. They can't. They're trying
Speaker 1: to save this, trying to salvage a little bit and
Speaker 1: got some ship. They forgot what I'm saying, I didn't
Speaker 1: do that. You know what I'm saying, what ship? Don't
Speaker 1: you remember? So it's like if I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: what whatever it is, it leads you here. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and and being about to process that way.
Speaker 1: You know what I talked talk You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that talk talk talk probably say that type of rover here.
Speaker 1: That is, whatever it was, it brought you to me.
Speaker 1: Apparently that wasn't enough, That wasn't fulfilling that life you
Speaker 1: would leading. You know what I'm saying. That body count
Speaker 1: you was racking up, it didn't fulfill you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You had to come get full. Huh,
Speaker 1: you have to stop by a tank. What you have
Speaker 1: to come get what I'm saying, don't get Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it. You thought you out. Oh but Southby ain't crazy.
Speaker 1: All the salvation is for every man, woman, boy and girl.
Speaker 1: Under the sound of my voice, hallelujah. I alright, skip
Speaker 1: the two things first before we get to the pro
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something. Okay, you are a
Speaker 1: pro basketball player. You are a pro skilled, professional basketball player,
Speaker 1: play basketball for a living. Okay. When you come out
Speaker 1: to the run with us, okay, you're already better than us.
Speaker 1: Why do you cheat? Okay? Why why do you cheat?
Speaker 1: You're already never lose the game. Somehow they never lose,
Speaker 1: never want to lose, and you try so are to
Speaker 1: try to beat them every day until you get to
Speaker 1: that point when your girl. You gotta do the same
Speaker 1: thing where professional basketball player mind set already program. That's
Speaker 1: like when gaming what's going around, and you could never
Speaker 1: be gamember that and gave it play basketball with everybody,
Speaker 1: I would win. I think. I mean, you can't put
Speaker 1: the mac on me. That's my nigga. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: but you can cheap called every foun Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: you're bigger than us, you're more professional than us. That's
Speaker 1: you have that win on me. Though it's like R
Speaker 1: and B Doo beat me, you still loose. You still
Speaker 1: take someone else down the hole. I'm just saying, you
Speaker 1: still take some house. I'm just trying to I just
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you let me come to the book
Speaker 1: and I was seeing you. You know, if you get
Speaker 1: it off, I'm gonna let your shine. I forgot who
Speaker 1: you are. It's about in the league, they can sing
Speaker 1: a little bit man that at least in the national anthem. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it goes bea but nixing national
Speaker 1: let we got some animals that we got some what
Speaker 1: happens that? Let me put albums up some I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's his name on the deepot? The deepot, the depot.
Speaker 1: So we've established this man is a cheater. He's a
Speaker 1: professional A step across half court. Yeah, yeah, cash money,
Speaker 1: but he cheats us. How do y'all feel about that? Like,
Speaker 1: how do we feel about what? I mean? I'm with it.
Speaker 1: I tell him the truth though, I tell him like,
Speaker 1: I have no problem. They get nice and be like
Speaker 1: do the moves and in the video. No, what it
Speaker 1: is is that I feel some times to get too well.
Speaker 1: Sometimes put like this. There's a rhythm to it, and
Speaker 1: so living in that space consistently you automatically have the
Speaker 1: rhythm for it. But pro bowlers, their rhythm is dedicated.
Speaker 1: It's dedicated to basketball. So when you just try to
Speaker 1: sneak back in the R and B without having lived
Speaker 1: that rhythm, it can look funny. It's it's what you see.
Speaker 1: It's the truth what you see. It's not that they're
Speaker 1: not talented, but they're not living enough consistently in the
Speaker 1: space to make it feel and look, you can't play yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you can't play R and b it's like you are
Speaker 1: wrap right. It's either it's the funniest thing like the Rapper.
Speaker 1: I mean that the football players like it's hilarious. And
Speaker 1: it's not that they that they can't do it. It's
Speaker 1: the fact that they don't fully live it on a
Speaker 1: day to day basis. They have another job that they
Speaker 1: gotta do to feed their family, so just playing it
Speaker 1: don't really work. It's just it's just the same thing as, yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can play basketball, but if it's
Speaker 1: not something I'm doing every single day that I'm not
Speaker 1: dedicated to. When the guys that walk into gym that
Speaker 1: that's what they are dedicated to on a day to
Speaker 1: day basis, they're gonna probably they can probably give it
Speaker 1: to you know. I mean like they've done the work,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And it's no way to
Speaker 1: to to halfway do this ship. So I've had those
Speaker 1: hard conversations with you know guys that it's the homies
Speaker 1: that I think they're talented. They can sing what I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're already fighting the uphill battle because nobody wants to
Speaker 1: see the rich get rich. We already know That's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's like that, but it is
Speaker 1: what it is. So you're always you're gonna face that hate.
Speaker 1: And then if you don't come through really cooking, nig
Speaker 1: is like, I'm cool, really cooking, I'm cool, Like ball
Speaker 1: right to chains had to focus on rap all day
Speaker 1: long because if he comes out there now and try
Speaker 1: to hoot with y'all, get in trouble. And that's just
Speaker 1: kind of that's just kind of what that is in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Or and sometimes just people have the money
Speaker 1: to throw around and feel like it's that easy. You
Speaker 1: feel like you can just strow a couple hundred thousand
Speaker 1: and and you'll have a hit record when you just
Speaker 1: don't know space. Yeah, you don't know the space. So
Speaker 1: we tried, like like we try to give the information.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that I've come to realize
Speaker 1: is that I don't know if they really want it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they really that's the other Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes to that. And I know you experienced that
Speaker 1: even a basketball like the locker on try to you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, come on, try to tell the
Speaker 1: Max player right something anything, Nick, what we're talking about Max?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always open up it's the same music,
Speaker 1: bro that it translates over to where you know, guys
Speaker 1: are still like I am who I am? I got
Speaker 1: the bag and if you won't work with me, I
Speaker 1: can pay somebody else that might not even tell any truth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So because I got an album coming out
Speaker 1: that's hey, listen, you can play for I believe you too.
Speaker 1: I believe. But at least four joints dropping. He's just
Speaker 1: waiting for the right moment. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: This is the right moment to press play and listen.
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna say what it is? Who that? That's me?
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, just viving. I was just viving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a him coming out soon. Okay, alright, So
Speaker 1: Lakers have won the championship. Yeah, that's bird out of
Speaker 1: the bubble. Um on On which was one of probably
Speaker 1: one of one of the most emotional years in sports
Speaker 1: with the passing of Kobe UM and you playing with Kobe,
Speaker 1: you're playing with the leg organization and UM seeing what
Speaker 1: they've been been able to accomplish this year. What does
Speaker 1: all what what feeling do you get from all of that? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I felt like I want a championship to just watching
Speaker 1: it and hoping they won because everything that's going on
Speaker 1: that happened this year, with me going to the funeral,
Speaker 1: with just seeing everybody being in that gym again, and
Speaker 1: it was just a crazy year. Man. I felt like
Speaker 1: they needed to not need it, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it was kept everything. They kept everything off for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other part is, like you said, you've been
Speaker 1: all l A everything, a whole lot. He was hoping
Speaker 1: you got drafted here and stay at home, So that's
Speaker 1: a whole another thing, like, yes, you're a professional basketball player,
Speaker 1: but everybody still has their hometown favorite or whatever team
Speaker 1: they grew up on. And obviously you really from l A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cast is really from l A. A Lego fans for
Speaker 1: sure really played with and y'all really got moments online
Speaker 1: with y'all going back and forth in that gym, like
Speaker 1: how was that as far as just like being from
Speaker 1: l A but realizing like he's the guy here, I'm
Speaker 1: from here, but we're going back, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I didn't even think about that at the moment.
Speaker 1: But just like from the first day going there signing there,
Speaker 1: like man, I already planning for the team I grew
Speaker 1: up like idolizing the player. I grew up like wanting
Speaker 1: to be like I had a little fro in high
Speaker 1: school because of Kobe. You know it was. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like k Yeah, yeah, you know. I mean you could
Speaker 1: afford the bart Yeah, you know I didn't. I did
Speaker 1: the old lake of parades and stuff back then. So
Speaker 1: but from the first day he told called me and
Speaker 1: told me to come to Orange County at five in
Speaker 1: the morning from the valley. I almost let him down,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's Kobe. I can't. I gotta wake
Speaker 1: up at three o'clock. I told him, you know, me
Speaker 1: coming to Orange County, I gotta wake up earlier to you.
Speaker 1: He told me, make sure we get your ass down
Speaker 1: there or you know it was over now, you said,
Speaker 1: I'm just pretty much that was no. I was more
Speaker 1: geek to just be getting that phone call from somebody
Speaker 1: I grew up watching and loving. So once I got there,
Speaker 1: he came in with the shades at five in the morning,
Speaker 1: no sign out, no sign up, but he was waiting
Speaker 1: in the car to make sure everybody was on time.
Speaker 1: He was there probably I'll probably say hour before. Everybody
Speaker 1: sitting in just sitting in the car and making sure
Speaker 1: people show up. He said, I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: if y'all was hongry enough to show up. And literally
Speaker 1: we just talked that he left. He talked about will
Speaker 1: be work out, work on nothing. We just who closed?
Speaker 1: Who closed? Well, he came in, said, I just want
Speaker 1: to talk to y'all and see where your mom is
Speaker 1: at before we started this journey, and see if y'all
Speaker 1: willing to, you know, wake up this early. So I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: He got me out the bed and five and four
Speaker 1: in the morning. But hey, man, let's talk. He always
Speaker 1: that guy gonna get at the first I said, come on, man,
Speaker 1: there's no son outside. Man, come a bit. The think
Speaker 1: aviars thick, the black shades. You don't like you don't
Speaker 1: really like to finish your words hunt with the avars.
Speaker 1: That's that's not whatever whatever those what's they called aviators? Action? Yeahbation.
Speaker 1: Remember that I grew out of it. I'm glad I
Speaker 1: right here. It's right, you know, kind of grew out
Speaker 1: of it, but I still got a little bit left.
Speaker 1: The morning aviators, I got your back, Thank you. I
Speaker 1: was waiting for y'all to say something. Y'all let me
Speaker 1: say it, but it's cool. It's cool. I looked to
Speaker 1: see if people will correct me sometimes because I don't
Speaker 1: be knowing what i'd be saying sometime, so you learn,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn them hands on. Look, but yeah you can't.
Speaker 1: But the shade over just to talk to talk about
Speaker 1: the season. I thought that was like that was my
Speaker 1: first like Kobe moment, Like I knew, like the season
Speaker 1: is gonna be on like a rotocaster, right, because that's
Speaker 1: the first experience I did with Kobe. I'm thinking, I'm
Speaker 1: about the workout. I got my short song stretching, I'm
Speaker 1: getting a nice lather and I said that right right, leather, leather, leather,
Speaker 1: you mean a nice lader. That's a sweat like you know,
Speaker 1: all I could be just putting on but whatever, It's okay,
Speaker 1: this is whet, a nice lather like, you know, stretching,
Speaker 1: trying to show him like a shoot and working out
Speaker 1: a little bit there, trying to act like him, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure he's watched a lot of families you
Speaker 1: so get there. You tell me what I need to
Speaker 1: work on, what I need to do learning plays, but
Speaker 1: what I need to work on going more right because
Speaker 1: I always go left. He said it telling me about
Speaker 1: my own game the whole time. I said, damn, this
Speaker 1: is this is Kobe breaking me down like crazy, right,
Speaker 1: like he's already watched the film when all y'all, so
Speaker 1: you're telling me what I need to work on everything.
Speaker 1: So the next day we be getting the gym the
Speaker 1: same time and we started working. But that was like
Speaker 1: my first experience. What was the first game? Like first game?
Speaker 1: I didn't let me see he was first game. I
Speaker 1: didn't play. I was hurt because Kobe broke my thumb
Speaker 1: in practice, has some preddles. It wasn't like attentionally swiped down,
Speaker 1: and but he practiced hard. He practiced hard. And then
Speaker 1: another story, he didn't think my finger was broke, so
Speaker 1: he kept passing me the ball hard and telling me
Speaker 1: to practice like Kobe, dog, it's swollen, but you know
Speaker 1: it's him. That's not the result of Yeah that look, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's it. That's everybody know that story. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's that's out there. Wow, that's there. Broke it. So
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to play like the first
Speaker 1: two months, first month, but there you played in the
Speaker 1: legendary game. His last game, he got sixty. Right, that's crazy?
Speaker 1: Is that that's crazy? I was at the game. We
Speaker 1: were we were in Phoenix that night. We were at
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns last game seeing it, seeing like ship
Speaker 1: that was going on because you know, family, So we
Speaker 1: go to Phoenix. We're watching a young boy, dad get
Speaker 1: busy out there, you know. But it's the last game
Speaker 1: of the season type ship and we're trying to see
Speaker 1: Kobe's last game through like the whole little ticker thing
Speaker 1: of like what's going on. And he went from like,
Speaker 1: oh he got twenty, oh he got thirty five tank
Speaker 1: this nigga got he got fifty. Literally, I think I
Speaker 1: went to the second to the last game. The stay
Speaker 1: was centing. I was the second, you know, and I listened.
Speaker 1: I paid the money I told I told my wife
Speaker 1: was my wife now. I told us to listen. We're
Speaker 1: going to see Coble. But it costa. I said, we're
Speaker 1: going to see Kobe. And we were sitting, we were
Speaker 1: sitting right across from your bench, and Kobe came out,
Speaker 1: came out the game. He put the ice on and
Speaker 1: and he he and he gave me the head n
Speaker 1: I was like this, it was worth Coobe gave me
Speaker 1: a head knob and I was like, come on, he
Speaker 1: says right. He told me personally he was coming back
Speaker 1: in and my girl was like, who are you talking
Speaker 1: to him? Like I'm talking to Kobe. I'm talking to
Speaker 1: Kobe shop and I was like, that was like one
Speaker 1: of the coolest moments. What did he say to you
Speaker 1: about the me Uh? Did this one about the turn around? Like? What? What?
Speaker 1: What is it? That's because this that mean, it's kind
Speaker 1: of why you really popping on social media period. So
Speaker 1: when you know, I mean took you another place Facebook
Speaker 1: all the means or something. What did Kobe say to
Speaker 1: you about that shot? I know he had to say
Speaker 1: something like a coming for God. I think I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was gonna be that big. I ain't a
Speaker 1: lot to you because I had just hit like three
Speaker 1: threes before then, so I'm playing around, were blowing them out,
Speaker 1: So you know, Dan Tony, we shoot nothing but three,
Speaker 1: so by like I made three in a row, so
Speaker 1: I shoot it. I'm thinking I'm about to, you know,
Speaker 1: turn around, show off some more. I'm gonna fire, you know,
Speaker 1: and did I was thinking, you know, Gil did it?
Speaker 1: You know I'm about to do it now show him up.
Speaker 1: But what he did to me, I still revenge that.
Speaker 1: I still got my money. So here I shot it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was cash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: turned around and ship while it was out, I thought
Speaker 1: it was over. I'm thinking it was over. This shock
Speaker 1: put it on was shocking the food. Then they said,
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen the trending on Twitter. I said, man,
Speaker 1: all right, man, I thought it was over with that day,
Speaker 1: but people still do it to this day. So the
Speaker 1: funny thing is, as you know from your back, pucker
Speaker 1: and we'll go back to obviously your World Championships a
Speaker 1: little to that because you know I'm a Warrior fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you sir. You did work out there, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but yeah, but like there with the whole
Speaker 1: social media play, I get a phone call from my
Speaker 1: father's Rest in Peace. From my father said, Jay, oh,
Speaker 1: it's swagging, like, how do you know who? What do
Speaker 1: you know him? I said, actually, I do stell me
Speaker 1: we who we should be here? NBA players? Right play
Speaker 1: you go with Yes, that's the homie. He posted me.
Speaker 1: He posted me. He posted me. I said, posted what
Speaker 1: my my b lad lad In a few posted my
Speaker 1: lad man you what okay, okay, cool, tell me what's
Speaker 1: going on? Go to instagrams. Go to instagrams in Swaggy
Speaker 1: p posting me and it looked like he got he
Speaker 1: popping on there right like I got to pay yo,
Speaker 1: ask not knowing that my father, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: didn't know. The story was so funny and crazy. That's
Speaker 1: a bro. I gotta say, is this true? That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I see him at them like, you know, it's my father.
Speaker 1: He was like, I was wondering why people were name
Speaker 1: like man, that's my father, bro. And the funny thing is,
Speaker 1: I guess like a week before he passed, I when
Speaker 1: I went to go see him and talk to him,
Speaker 1: I had talked talks and I was like, man, man,
Speaker 1: he said when you come to l A, he want
Speaker 1: to meet you, blah blah blah. And you know, he
Speaker 1: passed up the week after that, but he was like, man,
Speaker 1: swaggy people so he it was that though, so I'm
Speaker 1: give this before we before we go. So we made
Speaker 1: we made we made shirts for Pops man. That's Tintoes
Speaker 1: down Tour. Yeah you can you can, you can go
Speaker 1: that that's for you man. I listen. I was like,
Speaker 1: I've got to make sure. Yeah, yeah, I was. I
Speaker 1: gotta make sure I get that to you. Man, tell
Speaker 1: me about bubbles. Do he met you? But we try
Speaker 1: to take me out? He tried to man this pure
Speaker 1: of him, like, yeah, that's a real picture in front
Speaker 1: of Rose Royce. That's a real picture of him in
Speaker 1: front of Rose Royce, tintoes down tour man. That's that's
Speaker 1: the that's the city's and the places in the in
Speaker 1: the host rolls. Yeah, I can episodes the thank you're
Speaker 1: taking your shirt off from my lady and ship. I
Speaker 1: don't really like that. Yeah, I'm just gonna take that.
Speaker 1: Just went to what way to get that up? Way
Speaker 1: to get that one on yourself? Because you battle to
Speaker 1: gave us ticket. I don't think it'll be a nice
Speaker 1: show since he gave you a shirt and reminded of
Speaker 1: you of him giving us giving your tickets because we
Speaker 1: all look at you. She's like dancing and ship music. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the CP three of r NI. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm the assist king. I'm throwing them off for you, baby.
Speaker 1: That's for you. You got that thing. Everything I'm doing
Speaker 1: this's for you. I got How how is that though? Man, Like,
Speaker 1: how has it been on stage? Like did you know
Speaker 1: like what you're gonna do, Like you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: like flex and p water didn't do it? Like could
Speaker 1: you be sweating the ship? You get so wet me?
Speaker 1: What is water cover chest? I stayed well hydrated my
Speaker 1: brother for that purpose, but I know, I know the
Speaker 1: stage line is gonna be hot. You failed me, So
Speaker 1: I stayed hydrated so I could be well glistened or
Speaker 1: another that could be well lather. He said, I have
Speaker 1: a good leather stage. That's what I gave him. This
Speaker 1: is man, that's funny that show. I remember you hit me.
Speaker 1: That's what you do. That's listen, I'm setting you up.
Speaker 1: Did you always be like that? Like he was always
Speaker 1: like that? Or like you got like that act? You
Speaker 1: got like buffing Jim. They got buffed in the gym
Speaker 1: because I was singing truth music from the beginning. To
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, I didn't start singing R and B
Speaker 1: until two years out of high school. So and then
Speaker 1: when I started singing R and B, I was on
Speaker 1: like some boys to men kind of cause I'm transitioning autogons.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until I went on the road with Genuine
Speaker 1: that that that things, you know, took a turn. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's like your sexual s us somewhere else. And
Speaker 1: that was my first R and B tour. It was
Speaker 1: it was Drew Hill, Genuine, Aaliyah, Mary J Blige and
Speaker 1: Bone Thugs and Harmon. That was my first the biggest,
Speaker 1: the biggest in the world shore but let's rap though,
Speaker 1: but there they were doing. It was the first melody
Speaker 1: they established. Melody is rappers like. And it was crazy
Speaker 1: to see the crowds go from enjoying Drew Hill and
Speaker 1: the Genuine and Leah and Mary J to to going
Speaker 1: crazy when Bone Thugs the same R and B fast
Speaker 1: thing and every R and B song when Bone came out,
Speaker 1: they went crazy, bro. And I was there for I
Speaker 1: was there for all of it. So that was my
Speaker 1: intro into you know, seconding means and well secular music.
Speaker 1: But that was my intro into seeing sex sound. That
Speaker 1: the second of music. That's what church, that's what people call.
Speaker 1: It's really armed if you don't, if you're not thinking
Speaker 1: about God, about people in church. So I'm watching Ginuine
Speaker 1: every night. I'm watching him right, I'm watching them hump
Speaker 1: the stage, hump a tow hump a speaker for really
Speaker 1: were doing that hump a girl water later glitter. I
Speaker 1: watched him dive out into the oise every night. You
Speaker 1: know what was cold? He was cold, he was wild.
Speaker 1: Any good fight, right, he said, a good fight. Let's
Speaker 1: get a good fight. He says, that's why you guys
Speaker 1: show fight like with all of it, like fighting night
Speaker 1: and ready to fight. What do you say? Okay? Just
Speaker 1: made sure first Chris Brown, the original Chris Brown. Yeah. Fight.
Speaker 1: So that was my intro into seeing how sex was
Speaker 1: sold and and sing the confidence in that space, and
Speaker 1: then trying my hand at it because he let me
Speaker 1: come out on stage and do a little something. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when Genuine would take his
Speaker 1: shirt off, I'll be in the background, mis I take
Speaker 1: my shirt off. I didn't have the muscles at the top.
Speaker 1: The Ginuine I was killing me and he had the
Speaker 1: six badges. I wasn't. I wasn't that guy then, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then when I got off
Speaker 1: chill with him, I was like, damn, I need some muscles.
Speaker 1: And so because they're gonna it's not gonna work. Got
Speaker 1: the six pack and everything, and it's not gonna work,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was like, I need
Speaker 1: some muscles, and so I joined this gym. It was
Speaker 1: called Leslie Ship right around the corner. But I was
Speaker 1: always an athlete, but the muscle thing was different. And
Speaker 1: I found this little kid. The kid's name was Marcus.
Speaker 1: Eventually became family. And this kid was sixteen and seventeen
Speaker 1: years old in high school playing football. He looked like
Speaker 1: a grown man. He was one of those guys like
Speaker 1: over three hundred pounds, six ft, muscle bound calves every everything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're like, yeah, I'm seventeen, like you're what
Speaker 1: he So I can train you though you train me,
Speaker 1: put me on a little medicine and no drug testing
Speaker 1: in R and B. I just want to put that
Speaker 1: out there. Back then, you know drug testing in R
Speaker 1: and by putting on a little medicine, but you know,
Speaker 1: tan't had muscles. Huh how long did that take? Aways?
Speaker 1: Talking about it took about I mean I was I
Speaker 1: was fresh, I had a clean slate. So so about
Speaker 1: four months and I was looking like a superhero. I
Speaker 1: look like a lean superhero like miss up, miss with
Speaker 1: you a little bit. No, no, it enhanced it enhanced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you like you still do it to this day, enhancement.
Speaker 1: See now you trying to get now you trying to
Speaker 1: get it to you know, you know, I see what
Speaker 1: you do. I see what you're doing. I see what
Speaker 1: you do. I was yeahs league. So No, I was
Speaker 1: already an athlete, so I was accustomed to training. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So what happens with people who
Speaker 1: really really juice? Like that's that wasn't my thing. I
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't into competition levels of doing the competition levels.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to sell the records. So for me,
Speaker 1: the things that I were gaining were more natural, and
Speaker 1: so it wasn't It wasn't so much in the field
Speaker 1: that I was taking. It was more more in the
Speaker 1: work that I was doing. So anytime I dropped like
Speaker 1: it was something that I would do like once every
Speaker 1: like right, Okay, So that's so that's my gift and
Speaker 1: my curse. I don't eat a lot, but I do
Speaker 1: look like my cookies and cals, but I don't eat
Speaker 1: a lot of food. Yeah, so sometimes I need those
Speaker 1: calories because I'll go a whole day and only eat
Speaker 1: once or forget to eat. So that's my problem, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you know, yeah, but in
Speaker 1: terms you know, in terms of the sauce, like you know,
Speaker 1: just you just gotta like h H is one of
Speaker 1: those things that they don't really want to promote too much,
Speaker 1: only because um, from from a Western medical medicine standpoint,
Speaker 1: they don't want you to replenish um, your your h
Speaker 1: g H levels. They don't want you to essentially heal yourself.
Speaker 1: They don't want that. Yeah, they want to get like
Speaker 1: you have to think you you you played professional no sports,
Speaker 1: so as you are hard to you right now, as
Speaker 1: you are thirty five, your levels are probably at a
Speaker 1: man that's probably sixty seven years old, just because how
Speaker 1: much you've had to put out and how much you've
Speaker 1: had to recover. It is, it is a fact. And
Speaker 1: so the part of it is trying to replenish those levels,
Speaker 1: you know, not turn you back to no twenty year old,
Speaker 1: but at least get you to the point to where
Speaker 1: your body can recover better than it is now. So
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing on it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But you know, you've got to do more research to
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. I'm clean. You know about it. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'll start flying at the gym. There's no tank. They've
Speaker 1: been a couple of guys. We salk somehow, we'll talk
Speaker 1: after I'm clean, but I know where it is. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: let my last question, and then Jay has a has
Speaker 1: a special part of the service and he would like
Speaker 1: for you to participate in. Um it's Lebron James to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's forever as all time. Yeah, for sure, I think
Speaker 1: so wow. I don't think has think his competition he
Speaker 1: had the battle face. Are you saying that because you
Speaker 1: were part of that competition? Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think you have to ever face a team like the Warriors.
Speaker 1: He was the Warriors. That's so he's Katie. He was
Speaker 1: the worst. I'm not gonna let y'all do that though
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. Don't say y'all. Don't say y'all. It
Speaker 1: he came through. He carried with the load. There wasn't
Speaker 1: a questions loaded. They were. They were the best team
Speaker 1: in the best team. But they wasn't the war They
Speaker 1: were the first version. We're talking about a seventy plus
Speaker 1: win two. Michael Jordan, No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm saying I'm saying in terms
Speaker 1: of let's look in those days, in terms of a
Speaker 1: seventy two, seventy three win team, that was them. They
Speaker 1: set the bar. So Michael Jordan was never coming into
Speaker 1: a finals with that team as an underdog. Warriors never
Speaker 1: went into a finals as an underdog. They were those guys. So,
Speaker 1: and then going back to your point, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I don't feel like Jordan's I feel like he
Speaker 1: faced heavy competition. I feel like he faced some heavy teams,
Speaker 1: some history teams. But I feel like the evolution of
Speaker 1: athletes is so much different now that what Lebron faces
Speaker 1: is like, like, you got a guy named like dim
Speaker 1: Witty that will give Lebron dirty on a cool night,
Speaker 1: Ye do Mars who would give nicka dirty like I get.
Speaker 1: Joe Dumars is a guy. Joe Dumars is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he's also But Joe Dumars also was a smaller competitor.
Speaker 1: It was you know, I mean, it was different things.
Speaker 1: And yes, he was a guy. He was a guy.
Speaker 1: He was a guy. I would give you the second
Speaker 1: I think though, But he was the second leader scorer
Speaker 1: of the Brooklyn that's but who point right now? Any
Speaker 1: from the Valley Nia rights right? What I will say,
Speaker 1: and this is my opinion, right, everybody's everybody's opinion. I
Speaker 1: personally think when you have go talk, it has to
Speaker 1: be more Mount Rushmore and more generational than it is
Speaker 1: saying what somebody would have done with different rules, with
Speaker 1: different style of play, with teaming up with However the
Speaker 1: league is now from what howeverly was then right because
Speaker 1: now there's no more hand checking a guy and Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: you's seen it in the last for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: But iagine imagine playing in the league where Nick can
Speaker 1: literally guide you where he kind of wants you to go,
Speaker 1: and you don't get a call for it, right like
Speaker 1: there are guys now maker who make have their points
Speaker 1: on the free throw right. But you also have to
Speaker 1: say this though I agree with what you're saying, but
Speaker 1: I think what we always dial back to is that
Speaker 1: there are more guys capable in this new game of
Speaker 1: basketball than work and everybody's been raised off of the
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's algorithms. I want to give you the real
Speaker 1: question that nobody really asked, where the fund is Kareem
Speaker 1: in his conversation right, the greatest winner of all times,
Speaker 1: at all levels, at all levels. Nobody want to see
Speaker 1: a big ethic get it though, but let's keep it
Speaker 1: because he won, He was the greatest, also had competition
Speaker 1: with them because they don't school in different rules the
Speaker 1: most points of all times, he didn't because his error. Again,
Speaker 1: his big will wasn't. Karem wasn't anomaly time. I get it, Bro,
Speaker 1: and now Lebron is because but Lebron isn't so much
Speaker 1: as good is He's not as skilled as a Lebron James.
Speaker 1: He's not. He's as good as as good as as
Speaker 1: good as doctors is. He's not as smart as Lebron's
Speaker 1: or athletic as he like, Lebron has everything you put
Speaker 1: when you're making franken Stock, give me this, give me
Speaker 1: that sprinkle a little bit of this, Okay, funk up
Speaker 1: his hair, Okay, but we're gonna make sure, We're gonna
Speaker 1: make sure right well so so so the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's I think it's because here's
Speaker 1: what I feel like, m J is fucking Jesus Lebron.
Speaker 1: Is Lebron be my favorite player right now. We're my
Speaker 1: favorite player for quite some time, but ain't moving. But
Speaker 1: I think what somebody got some regeneration back. We also
Speaker 1: can't we also can't take away the fabric of all
Speaker 1: of these players, the DNA of all of these players,
Speaker 1: and that DNA is easily Michael Jordan's like the impact.
Speaker 1: Mj have a bigger impact than anything anybody in the world,
Speaker 1: any on any sport, being close in any sport, Everybody
Speaker 1: in any sport wants to be like Mike. My thing is,
Speaker 1: I hate that people say you can't never be better
Speaker 1: than you. It's like, it's nobody go you gotta come
Speaker 1: and go seven and I'll win the final. No, because
Speaker 1: because even then, even then there's gonna be something right
Speaker 1: because because Michael Jordan's like if they change the signs
Speaker 1: of right now. But the way, yeah, this is easy.
Speaker 1: I disagree. I'm talking about the bubble. I't talking about
Speaker 1: the easiest team. Oh he faced there. I feel like
Speaker 1: that is the easiest team here. But I also believe
Speaker 1: that I also believe that since it looks so easy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, When they finally got on
Speaker 1: the floor, that Jimmy Butler guy, that's hard said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to make sure it's hard, but it's not that easy.
Speaker 1: Can we all agree though, that he also has the
Speaker 1: second best player in the NBA? Understand? I agree? But
Speaker 1: did he always did? But? But but did he play?
Speaker 1: But did he play like the best player he began?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. The fear is there, fearing there,
Speaker 1: I got it. But I watched the game where he
Speaker 1: got hurt a little bit. Was it with Miami one?
Speaker 1: And I watched it with him, Amy Fan, I hope
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I don't really want him to be her
Speaker 1: for his career. I just hope he don't come like
Speaker 1: he's what they had after that, and he's a guy.
Speaker 1: Look what they had to fall back on after that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask Danny Green to try to score eighty points,
Speaker 1: Coil Pope, even though he stepped up, He stepped up Pope.
Speaker 1: Nd I've ever seen really crew cut Caruso like that.
Speaker 1: He bring a different type of my favorite players. Knew
Speaker 1: that if I gotta, if I got to choose as
Speaker 1: I knew that when Rondo came back, that the Lakers
Speaker 1: won't win the championship. If Rondo didn't come back, they
Speaker 1: were not going to win the trash. If Rondo and
Speaker 1: Avery Bradley would have been there, they might have swept
Speaker 1: every everybody, Ye for sure because because because as great
Speaker 1: as Lebron is, he's sturdy. Fine every year every rally
Speaker 1: would have been in that boat. Because you see the time,
Speaker 1: So you needed Ron Dog to come in and say,
Speaker 1: all right, Brian, I got it. Relax, I'll hold it
Speaker 1: down for seven minutes while you was beat so before
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the section. But I gotta
Speaker 1: ask this because I'm from the Bay. I'm a Warrior's fan.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Ship feel bro that championship.
Speaker 1: We know what platinum records feel like. We know what
Speaker 1: success feels like. Like what did that? Like? The chap
Speaker 1: don't even worry about it was nobody right, So nobody's right.
Speaker 1: I get it nothing. Hey man, hey man, we don't
Speaker 1: respect it. We whooped them niggers. It was our time.
Speaker 1: You had your shirt off, don't tennessee Henesse right? Damn?
Speaker 1: Like all the basketball you play in your life, was
Speaker 1: it worth it to take the pay cut? Go play
Speaker 1: where it's like you know, you know, listen, I'm harder
Speaker 1: more so than it's like I'm going somewhere some week
Speaker 1: ast team I know ain't going to the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give niggas thirty every other night. I'm an
Speaker 1: average two. I might can go get a bag after
Speaker 1: this to say, you know what I played in this league.
Speaker 1: I've had success in this league. I know who I am.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take this bread and go be an
Speaker 1: integral part to a team that I know can take
Speaker 1: me to the mountown Man. For me, it was tough.
Speaker 1: It was Toff. I have to sit there and talk
Speaker 1: with I talk with Gil. He's like, go there, you
Speaker 1: never won, this could change, like your nearrative and everything
Speaker 1: so right, but you would have been to make those
Speaker 1: shorts with me. I I didn't win in high school.
Speaker 1: I don't win in college. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so like we lost in the championship game in high school.
Speaker 1: I was mad and ship, I know how that feels.
Speaker 1: But just the DNE that was unblieve. Like that broke
Speaker 1: back memories when I watched it. Just Tuesday Sunday when
Speaker 1: I see the Lakers, because that parade, your family there
Speaker 1: to champagne in the locker room, everybody drinking, you got
Speaker 1: your gargles on you burned out crazy gargles don't gotta
Speaker 1: r any right, I'm sorry, gargles, I can't. My grandmama,
Speaker 1: my grandma trainees my grandma later, you know, and like
Speaker 1: gargle like like, yeah, the gargles, gargles on, how you
Speaker 1: like gargles whatever? Whatever, So you had your gargles on
Speaker 1: champagne just saying anything, definitely saying anything anything. Oh y'all
Speaker 1: what Yeah, I was so drunk. Yeah, I was so drunk,
Speaker 1: and like I feel like the champagne was getting in
Speaker 1: my ports because it was just I just passed out
Speaker 1: on the bus. I didn't get a chance to take
Speaker 1: my pictures. Man, you're not in the championship pictures. I
Speaker 1: didn't get my separate pictures, you know how everybody Yeah,
Speaker 1: with my family and ship because he was old, Like
Speaker 1: they've been sprayed, my mom, my dad, everybody getting sprayed.
Speaker 1: Like everybody's soaking champagne on. They spray like it's been
Speaker 1: like I think five thousand worth from bottles of ship
Speaker 1: the next pint in the record. We just gotta go crazy,
Speaker 1: like you gotta start spramping with champagne and just wild
Speaker 1: much fun, low kid. I think like kids being there,
Speaker 1: like yeah, that's going crazy, bro. It's crazy, bron Like
Speaker 1: they get caught up in a mix because like the
Speaker 1: whole it's like a family thing. So you see moms
Speaker 1: in the middle of the pow wow and bring your dad,
Speaker 1: dad turn get them in the middle. It's crazy. So
Speaker 1: we have a part of our show. It's called I
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names. You tell us a story funny
Speaker 1: or fun up eitheryone both, but you don't mention the
Speaker 1: coprit do you were there? You experienced it? Don't you
Speaker 1: do it? The Army money show ain't about no snitch.
Speaker 1: Don't do no telling money so telling. I need a story, bro,
Speaker 1: I need something, all right, rookie, m hmm. I'm driving
Speaker 1: right somehow I got to be the driver. Basically I
Speaker 1: was paid to be a chauffeur. But he might not
Speaker 1: have been designated. He might have been drunk too, but
Speaker 1: you know whatever, I would drinking too, But I'm in
Speaker 1: a chauffeur. I got the hat on the suit and everything. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: full show up. I don't paid nis at six. I
Speaker 1: don't know how they found this ship, but they paid me.
Speaker 1: The pulled up and picking be leaving the strip club okay,
Speaker 1: and it's Philly, Philly. Yeah yeah, the legendary strip. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah they do, Yeah, they do. I'm a rookie. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is this is for real? Yeah? Oh like no, bro.
Speaker 1: I'm driving them though, and my playing parting in the back.
Speaker 1: It's like and I turned around. I'm like them that
Speaker 1: just see what I'm saying. And they drive them They
Speaker 1: in the back seat do everything as they're supposed to,
Speaker 1: don't driving, Like damn, this is what the NBA is about.
Speaker 1: Feel like, damn, this is really NB. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to starting up get the back back really doing this
Speaker 1: in front of me. They don't care. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: to him and she's like, hey, anywhere I don't want
Speaker 1: some pool? And then he put up to the hotel.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, bro. Yeah, I think it was a legendary
Speaker 1: night for me. Yeah I've seen it was like somebody
Speaker 1: like I had it. I had a crush on that thing,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, it's one of those nights, that's all.
Speaker 1: I would never seen her getting bust down. Yeah in
Speaker 1: the car and I'm driving like bust down and we're
Speaker 1: not talking about the diamond watching man. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is welcome to being on the road with anyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeahs down. You know I stopping that LIGHTN is taking
Speaker 1: slow looking really happening, because once you get there, it's
Speaker 1: gonna stop like that. That look nice? Man. I want
Speaker 1: I don say a little bit like yeah man, I
Speaker 1: want stup too. Shoot you good you shoot you get
Speaker 1: it right? You come on jail, you want to get
Speaker 1: no crap back. I didn't really go right. I ain't
Speaker 1: really gonna play tacking in me. Need you know I
Speaker 1: finished that up? Broll over right? No, that's a crazy
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